I think I made all the mishaps
a teenager could make My life has completely changed.
No exaggeration I felt really inferior to you back then I don't regret a single moment of my past 7 years I want to stay as an idol forever The image I present is a true reflection of my life There are million reasons to hate someone, but also there are billions more reasons
to love others The power of love is truly amazing - Let's love, guys
- Let's love Here I am with the new KINO I thought about where to s
tart We're going to start with your childhood and finish with your present How about starting with your childhood? - I haven't thought about it for a long time
- Yeah But I think I'll be reminded of my past
a lot while talking today While I was looking into your information, I was thinking you must've been a good child to your parents - You're known to be a good son
- Yeah You were probably like that
when you were little It doesn't change suddenly, you know What were you like as a kid? Actual
ly, I was born good - I did
- Sure But... I failed to be a good son for a long time I'm trying to be a good son now but the truth is,
I'm not doing a very good job The reason why I started to love my parents and look up to them more, and became a "good boy" is that I had a lot of regrets about not being like that I completely changed after experiencing a period of regret and becoming an adult Like my attitude towards my parents What do you mean by you were not a good son? To put it simply,
it
was like so-called "teenage angst" But it varies from person to person I think it was intense for me Some people say that I'm here now because of what happened in the past But I don't think that
time was necessary for me Especially for my parents... They were... patient with me while I went through tough times They didn't push me too hard They guided me to the right path And I'm really thankful for that I joke around sometimes "Mom and dad, if things are not going well
with you right now," "w
hy don’t you publish a parenting book?" For all the parents, - it's their first time being parents
- Right My parents were there, too I think they're wonderful parents - You said you went through tough times
- Yeah If you recall those times, how did you not listen to your parents? I think I made all the mishaps
a teenager could make - It was that bad?
- Yeah I mean, people I've met through my social life
don't believe this Because I don't really drink and it's not like I get angry a lot So the
y say "No way" My life has completely changed,
no exaggeration I was a completely different person back then So I agree that human beings can change Because it happened to me And if I become a parent, I think I'll do the same
as my parents Even if my kids don't listen to me, I'll be patient with them Honestly, I'm not a patient person so I don't really want to have a kid - You might change your mind
- Yeah So when you were little, you went through tough times - but still, you must've had a dre
am, right?
- Yeah - Everyone wants to be something, you know
- Right At what point did you develop a clear dream of doing what you are doing now? I don't remember exactly I don't really remember the details But as far as I remember,
it was when I was in elementary school "I just want to be a singer" But my parents noticed my dream before me I keep talking about my parents Since I was in kindergarten,
elementary, and middle school I was always the type to take the lead whenever I had a chance t
o make a speech at school festivals,
talent shows, or field trips "Who wants to be the main character?"
When everyone was hesitant, I said "Me" I dressed up as a leopard
and did a musical in English I was really active So my parents thought
"He'll definitely become a singer later" And at some point, I also thought,
"I want to be a singer" so I told my parents that, and they thought "Finally!" You don't really know when you are young - Of course, you sing in front of people but...
- Yeah With
so many other career options available, why did you choose to become a singer? I was wondering if you got influenced by other cool singers Yeah, TAEYANG from BIGBANG I'm pretty sure the singers
who are around the same age as me must have been influenced a lot by him Probably all the male dance singers are influenced by him He was so influential at the time and I was influenced, too And another person who made me think
"I really want to be a singer who shines on stage" was Michael Jackson I was
stunned after watching the live performance video of "Human nature" by Michael Jackson He was different from any other singers That's when it became clear For me, my dreams changed a lot as I grew up - When I was little, I wanted to be a firefighter,
- Of course a car racer, or a writer It changed a lot In a way, you were determined - to be a singer
- Right I thought,
"Wouldn't it limit your potential?" That's what I thought You could stand out in other fields - with your great skills
- Maybe
- But now you're here
- Yeah as a singer You dreamed to be one since you were young What do you think of that?
About your potential I totally agree with you I'm sure I have a potential,
which I haven't found yet This might be seen as my ambition As soon as I entered this field, the desire to make a notable mark made it difficult for me to leave this field I don't think I can ever stop Actually, there are a lot of things I want to do There are things I've dreamed of
since I was little But I th
ink it'll be something after I achieve as much as I want as a singer Where do you think you're at right now? I mean with your goals I think I'm at about 25 percent I'm only 26 years old.
Isn't that pretty good? - I think so
- I really think that I'm really looking forward to my future I really want to age gracefully into my thirties and forties, while successfully completing the path I've chosen and witnessing my own dedication I'm also looking forward to it At around the 25 percent mark of you
r career path, you've secured a stable position, You can say that now - But the initial stages were challenging, right?
- Yes - I heard you failed so many auditions
- That's right Yeah But you kept challenging yourself because you were so determined to do this? Right I wanted to try And there is another reason I had tremendous faith in myself In fact, I still do It's a bit funny to say but as a child, I would sometimes think about
the people who rejected me in auditions, for example, Park Jin-y
oung of JYP or Bang Si-hyuk, the chairman of HYBE, I mocked them internally Thinking, "How could they not recognize
such talent like me?" I think there was a period
when I felt this way I had that mindset when doing auditions I think it's necessary to have that mindset There's no need to feel too intimidated It is better to have the attitude of "I'm the best" during auditions I may not have had the same experience,
but I think I understand that especially in nerve-wracking situations it's a wa
y to control your mindset and maybe that was a quality of becoming a singer - Perhaps
- Maybe But honestly, I think that… mindset did lead me to where I am today But I'm not sure if it was the best approach Because my confidence was almost arrogance And I don't think that was entirely good Were there people who doubted you at that time? - Friends or family
- Plenty My friends and family, thankfully, really believed in me, without any doubt But industry insiders often made such comments Park Jin-
young?... - No, no no
- Chairman Bang Si-hyuk They didn't but JYP recognized my potential gratefully Sometimes the staff would say "You're going too far" Really often saying things like "It seems... you can't break that habit" In slang, it's like having a bit of an attitude - Your own
- Yes, when I sing, I have that attitude When singing, dancing, I had my own attitude Or facial expressions.
It was a habit that was ingrained in me There was indeed such a thing Instead of seeking a perfect train
ee, Korean entertainment companies look for young talent
with potential to mold into their desired artists I did not fit into that system because I had my own style I received a lot of criticism for it But in the end, I proved myself Back then, looking back to yourself, you mentioned you had confidence, even to the point of arrogance But you must have been aware of what you were good at Let's look back and consider your strengths, your unique qualities, and the reasons why you deserved to be se
lected at that time - Confidence and persistence
- Persistence Because that seems really important This is what I would want to compliment myself on
if I could go back in time. Looking back, I wasn't good at singing, dancing I couldn't compose at that time I couldn't do facial expressions well,
didn't know how to perform on stage I was at level 1 out of 10 in almost everything during middle and high school But that confidence made me think "Why do people say I can't do it? I'm really good" "I'l
l show you, okay, I'll show more," also made me practice more And persistence, for example, in the previous company, I was excluded from the debut team and left But I didn't give up Even when I failed at audition, I didn't give up Despite being last in monthly evaluations,
I did not give up Continuously I seemed to have had the capability
to endure those times. I don't know where it came from It's important especially when you start something I totally agree with you It's too hard to grasp all
my potential and talents - in just one or two years
- Absolutely, you can't I admire your resilience in overcoming - numerous audition failures
- Right and your unwavering determination to showcase your abilities - And there was a moment that you proved yourself
- Right You were admitted to high school
as the top student and were reputed to always be the best
in practical skills evaluation You mentioned "I was a terrible dancer" "I was unable to dance" Is that possible? No need to correct,
b
ut I wasn't always the top I was listed in the top 10 for six quarters continuously The record itself was important to me It's not important at all now But back then I care the record,
I don't know why 'Being in this top 10' 'Being first in this evaluation' was so important to me I was obsessed with that - It was a way to gain a sense of achievement
- Right - It was a driving force for me
- Right And not just motivation from within but also recognition from others
could also be a source of mot
ivation Right So those two things - were the major factors
- Exactly I was personally curious "What's an arts high school like?" It is different from a general high school system Yes, that's right And "What is being the constant top
in practical skills evaluation like?" I was really curious "What kind of system is that?" What's an arts high school like? It's spectacular, if you've seen the drama "Dream High," where they have dance battles, it's really like that During math class, if we were bore
d, the teacher would tell us to push the desks aside to create a circle and have a jam session Can you believe it? - It's real
- Like those schools in the dramas Now we have Reels, TikTok, Shorts, but back then - there was none of that
- UCC? It's somewhere between UCC and another thing we just made routines during break times recorded videos and posted them - on Facebook
- Those videos are still around Things like that JINJIN, who co-hosted with me for DIVE,
was my one-year senior. We met every
day, ate lunch together, did dance battle, danced, practiced till dawn, slept together - We slept at school
- That's impressive I've never seen a wall like that in my whole life, I'm not sure if it's a right term but our school's practice rooms had removable walls - What?
- Walls They were about this size,
so one person could fit perfectly, like tiles with a cushion feel We practiced till dawn and we'd take one wall off
and sleep in the practice room Sleeping there We woke up in the morning, b
ought something like a lunch box to eat at the cafeteria It seemed like an ordinary life at the time, but looking back, it feels like
there was a certain romance to it - That's romance
- Youth, right And when it got dark, you'd probably go outside,
looking at the stars, and talk - "What will we be doing in ten years?"
- Right We talked a lot about these things We talked about dreams as well When I was in high school, I used to talk a lot with my friends
who are now successful singers on our w
ay to and from school Was there no sense of competition at that time? In arts high schools, at least what I felt Everyone wants to make a debut or do something similar Right So inevitably, there would be competition
or a sense of rivalry? Even if it's a healthy competition? Sure, there was a sense of competition But I almost never felt it from everyone, but there was one person I did feel it from A friend I felt it from for a long time I never thought I'd talk about this on air But there's a fr
iend named YUGYEOM in GOT7 Now he's in AOMG He is my close friend of 14 years I always told YUGYEOM "I felt really inferior to you back then" He's a really close friend of mine, but both of us majored in dance,
both entered the dance department, and both were at JYP But YUGYEOM debuted at JYP before me And in dance, I couldn't beat him no matter how hard I tried even in evaluations I really wanted to beat him at that time I don't know why, but back then, I felt sorry to YUGYEOM at that time But
he really saw me as just a friend saying like "Let's both do well later" While I was like,
"Yeah, yeah," inside I was thinking "I still have to beat YUGYEOM" I had that thought which is really mean I don't know why but later, after realizing the different measures
of happiness and success I went to YUGYEOM and said "I'm sorry, I was like that back then" And he was like, "I knew, dude" He really took it that way "Who wouldn't know? It's fine.” - Now, we're great
- Because you two are true frie
nds, - that’s why YUGYEOM said that
- Right And being able to talk about it now,
after time has passed is also a great courage, I think I'm really thankful, it's really comfortable to talk
about it now, after time has passed Right, and that demonstrates
how much KINO has grown internally I think so It’s great to see two friends are now in the major scene - Right.
- working together - It's really a thankful thing
- That's cool Friends are really good and I think the precious thing as much as
friends is - your members.
- My members They are the most precious You once said it's good that
the relationship of you guys are like a family Right. I don't think it would have been easy to
have an amicable relationship from the beginning Let’s talk about the twists and turns I don't even want to think about the twists and turns When you were on a TV show you said like it's almost a match made in heaven as if you guys were getting along well from the beginning Did I? - It wasn't like that?
- I
don't know why I have said that but to be honest as I gained more experiences, we said a lot about this to our fans that we fought really much We fought a lot. One of my members that I respect
and like the most is the leader HUI Because I didn't want to debut with HUI, - I even cried
- Like that seriously? and I shouted that I can't make a debut with that person - What could've gone wrong?
- I don't know, the personalities are really different I think we were just born to be different It's eve
n surprising that
we're getting along well now HUI, SHINWON, and HONGSEOK they are people who have lived different lives than mine and have different values and now, I became a family with those people - Then I think nothing is impossible in the world, really
- Right A family is made up of people who eat together I think it's because of the environment 11 of us lived in a 66㎡ house and five of us slept in one room Then, can you imagine how much sweats we've shed
when we practiced early in the m
orning? Since there were two bathrooms,
it's a battle to go to take a shower first Even in the battles it's quick and comfortable
when two people take a shower together - nor you would've waited until dawn
- Right I think those times made us into a family I suddenly miss my members a lot After a shower,
they sprayed Febreze on my naked body then I ran to them as if I was going to smash the door I was really angry and members were like.. after that, they realized how I would react so, in front
of the bathroom door, they stood a clothes dryer
and put up something like a wall and were waiting like this behind that I usually take a quick look like this after a shower they weren't visible when I took a look on that day so, I went out being naked and then they sprayed Febreze again so, I was so angry and run into them,
but I tripped on that hanger they were cracking up There were like those times When we think about it there are not many opportunities that we eat and sleep with someone
who's not my family There's not There's no such time often in life Will I ever be able to have a relationship like
this with someone else in my life? No - Never
- I will never This kind of relationship can only
be experienced through PENTAGON And it's a relief that the people are all good That's a relief They are still good people now While working as a singer there must have been some disappointing moments There must have been - the first big dream you guys had as PENTAGON
- Right Also, pers
onally, as a human being, and as a man Hyeong gu there must have been a big dream But I think it hasn’t been able to achieve
all of those things while working Yes, right On that point, can you share some of the aspects that left you feeling unsatisfied? It would be a lie to say I have no lingering feeling
Honestly, there are too many There are so many disappointing things It's a bit funny to say,
but what disappoints me the most - are the recordings of my past performances
- The stage videos I
think, “Why did I go so overboard with my expressions?”
while watching them or like, "Why did I insist on this styling?" I feel disappointed about that kind of thing I could've looked better I could've done it more naturally Things that I definitely could have done back then,
but I made the wrong choice with Even now, there are stages that I think,
"I did well this time, I did my best." On the other hand, almost a third of my life is
about feeling disappointed at those stages Although I said
it's disappointing
when I look back at it it's way different from regretting it I don’t regret even a single moment of my past seven years The reason is, if I only experienced success,
I would have likely become an arrogant and conceited person What touched my heart the most
among the words I heard recently was the most unfortunate thing is making a lot of money when you are young and immature So, that doesn't only mean money,
but it also means fame and other aspects of success I… The moments
when things didn't go as I planned, or to put it bluntly, the moments when I failed to achieve my goals, were the ones that truly helped me grow as a person - I think they are really important moments
- Right So I never regret it. I became more humble Those were the times that made me realize how I should continue doing music for a long time So that period of time was essential for
my personal growth and development Does that time coincide with the time you became a dutiful son? - Or…
- Actually
, becoming a dutiful son happened earlier, around the time I finished high school The time when I truly grew as a person was - While working
- during my 6-7 years of activities with PENTAGON I was going through several significant transitions
during that time Does that mean PENTAGON was a failure?
Absolutely not - It's a different problem
- First of all, PENTAGON is still in progress and PENTAGON succeeded - We're loved by many people
- Right Because of PENTAGON, I was able to open second chap
ter of my life It was a time for which I am grateful in many ways Eventually - it's all connected
- Yeah, right In the end, my actions and words are from the past and consist of the present me and they are the path showing where I should go in the future Right If you regret the past then eventually that would affect the present - and the future as well
- Right I think like that I like the word, "Made in heaven" a lot it's actually quite religious but I just like the meaning of that - As God will
s
- Right - Just, as God wills
- Right I also share a somewhat deterministic view of the world - What will happen will happen
- Right I think like that Then, I can better understand about my life - and get less frustrated
- Right. It would become nourishment for me in the future - I found myself thinking like that
- Right The concept of this podcast is "Pivotal moment," if I have to say, which means a turning point or an inflection point The recent establishment of your company NAKED could be co
nsidered - the most recent pivotal moment in your life,
- Right or perhaps the first or second biggest moment Yeah, right. What do you think is the reason for this? Why did you establish a one-person agency? First of all, there were many good precedents
and good seniors at the forefront From there, I obviously got encouraged to say,
"I can do it too" Secondly I… I had a moment when I was certain about how I could succeed as a solo singer especially about the method I'd thought about that for
so long And like everyone else, as if it's an obvious thing I thought that if I came out of CUBE Entertainment, I would have to join another company to become a solo artist After I became convinced of my path to success, I thought about if there's a company
that can actually implement that I mean, I felt like this plan is so risky but when I take this risk I would definitely succeed as a singer but it seemed like there's no company
that could take this risk. So, I had to do this by myself I al
so thought, "I can do better if I do it." Even though you saw many good precedents it's a different matter if you jump in
and do it by yourself - Yeah, that's true
- No one would do it instead of you I think that could make you terrified - I think it's like you started from scratch
- Right. In the situation where there's nothing I think you could be terrified In terms of the level of fear,
I'm actually more afraid now than when I first started preparing for business The reason is it's not that
I doubt about my success but at that time, let's give a challenge Everyone has a first time Even Steve Jobs or Zuckerberg must have had moments when they started something new If I can't overcome this fear,
how could I succeed? I had that kind of mindset Let's fail if I have to If I fail and it would take me
about 10 years to recover I would still be 35 I can try again I started with that mindset.
But the reason I am more scared is because the crew that you mentioned NAKED teammates, having
teammates that I'm going with These people were doing well in their career but changed their career because they trusted me I think the responsibility that comes from this is massive I believe that's what weighs on my mind… You've become a father Well, not a real father Maybe a mom? Actually, it's like they are taking care of me But I've got to grow those responsibilities You'll probably often feel suffocated Sometimes, sometimes Oh, it's nothing… Please go on I know some business owners, and th
ey say they feel suffocated every payday I am actually in a different shoes.
When the pay check day comes, I am actually thankful that I can pay them Honestly, a company is not something you quit after a year or two It's more of a long term thing, right? But considering my current resources...
for example, my finances, will they be enough to support these people
for the rest of their lives? And at the same time,
will I be able to do everything I want to do? No, I can't My role is to grow the
size of
the pie little by little Right But if I make a mistake
and our company grows very slowly, if the pace of business growth
and capital expansion slows down, then I won't be able to pay these people their salaries That's what I am scared of To not do that, I am doing my best, but I get those thoughts Other than that, everything is almost perfect.
I am just very happy right now Really I am just confident that I can do this well I think this game has potential What do you do when… you ne
ed advice? Because it's a business Starting a business,
there would be a lot of difficult things such as hands-on things
that you haven't experienced as an artist The moment when you face those things,
how do you deal with it and when you need help, who do you turn to for advice? I am very bold in asking questions
when there are things that I don't know about So, I tend to make about
two or three phone calls in a day regarding management and business questions I don't know this, how am I sup
posed to do this? or I have this concern,
what should I do in this case? or I have this contract.
In which way should I go in this case? First of all, my father has been doing a business
for a long time, and I have an advisor that my father introduced me to who I am very grateful to And when I have questions regarding tax, there is a tax accountant that I always ask nearby - Very important
- Very important I would make music,
but to get that out into the world, I have never seen the process
of distribution And regarding things like that
and broadcasting management there are people I ask for advice here and there Thankful. Thank you Thank you very much If I didn’t have them,
I would have given up a long time ago It doesn't make sense, really.
It's really difficult and I'm starting to get a hang of how it works At first, it was even difficult to issue
withholding tax receipts and pay the employees - Because I've never given someone money
- Right But it was a very fun experience As
I was doing it, I was like,
yeah, when will I learn this again If I learn it now, I will be better later on.
I'm studying hard for it, and fortunately, I've been doing well
so far without any major mistakes What's the thing you expect the most in NAKED? If there are any, what would it be? First thing is achieving my goal And the second thing is to scout and grow great artists who have similar mindsets as I do and who go well with our company Third, this is the ultimate goal I hope that all t
he people who are with the company
can achieve big accomplishments I really wish they could work happily Most of the office workers say they are 'too tired' “Today, the manager did this
and that and our company lacks this” but there are a lot of good people
and good parts as well I wish our company is a company
that shows a lot of that Of course, our company has things
that are not satisfying, but having that as little as possible and those who are with NAKED are happy and I hope the company
becomes a place
where everyone can pursue their dreams There is a person who is working with us in NAKED That staff has never worked in this industry before When we first had that staff,
this is what I said, “Do as you want” “I want you to pursue your dreams here
So do things that you've wanted to do” Although the staff's major wasn't related to this industry,
the staff had a lot of interest So I asked that person to come to our company I thought this person wouldn't be stuck in a box
because
she/he hasn't worked in this industry before "As expected, that employee comes up with so many creative, fun, and great content ideas So I thought this was it. I wish all the staff
at NAKED would work with this mindset When I heard it, at first I thought
it was a companylike a family But I think that is slightly different Yes, it's a little different from a company like a family Of course that would be nice,
but it's much more important than that I just want to make the company as
where peop
le would feel it as their own and I'd like to make this group filled with love. It would be great if all employees
had a strong sense of ownership Yeah. and took pride in their work - It's not about me,
- It's about their success To boost their pride
and improve their quality of life There would be nothing more satisfying than that If I were CEO, I would be delighted to see my employees
feeling fulfilled and accomplished in their work. Of course there would be stress from work but more than th
at,
if the staff feels more accomplished and through that accomplishment,
if the staff feels they are making something and if I feel that, I'd be really happy Really That would be really nice With a high salary! Let's be honest, a pay raise is the best thing Of course, that's actually the best. - As you were doing that
- I need to do it really hard, for real I need to do it really hard As you were managing,
did you have anything new you learned? I thought of this I found something that goes re
ally well with me I thought of that a lot. I believe that there are more people that are much better than me in management
or things related to business But I am doing the best I can in my boundary and I am doing it fun and well And there is one thing that's important By doing this, I shouldn't lose my creativity I have this mission not to lose the creativity
that I have within me Right, right. So I am trying to divide my brain And I think that part seems really hard I think that's the most di
fficult part It seems like it would be really difficult You are well known to have a lot of tears
and laughters as your personality, right? While a leader with rich emotions can certainly bring positive effects to the company, there may also be times when you think,
'This is something I should be careful about.’ Do you have those times because of your rich emotions? It seems like you would need to
balance things out a little. I'm trying to work with all emotions set aside So, there is this ano
ther staff
I brought into the company who helps out with the management together and that staff is totally rational If I didn’t have him, I wouldn't have been able to start a business That's what I've been thinking the most these days Especially more When I am about to make a very emotional decision someday that staff helps me to calm that down Even when I try to do things alone I try to keep my emotions out of my work as much as possible So, I try to exclude my emotions Related to work Related
to hands-on things As I continue to listen to you, I think you are in a situation
where you need that kind of separation constantly Right, right It seems that you still need to distinguish between
the artist and the leader, and between the emotional and rational aspects If I were a person who was just producing the album For example, if I were a composer, producer, or musician I would say I want to release an album during this time, or want to do this kind of promotion at this time, or want to
do these things at this time Why can't I do this? It seems like it should be possible within this scope? Aren't there things that are holding us back at this point? This is what I might say if I were in that situation. If I plan out a year plan or a 3-year or 5-year master plan there's what I definitely want to do
and the times I need to do them. It always conflicts with that, now rationally I end up thinking from the company's perspective In that aspect, you must have learned more that you did
n't know before You understand why those decisions were made back then Another thing I'm grateful for
is the immense appreciation I've gained for my former colleagues I am really thankful for them I've even developed a sense of reverence for them They did all these things for me? So, I call them often Thank you. It's also a time to learn gratitude and humility I'm learning a lot, really There's a lot more to do
and it's not as easy as I thought They've done really great things I already knew t
hat
but it's way beyond what I thought But still, reaching out and expressing gratitude And that will lead to further growth for both KINO and KINO's company NAKED We will You'll do well You'll do well The first single presented through NAKED Fashion Style Yes I can't help but mention this First of all, the title itself is quite impactful Yes Fashion Style What story did you want to tell? One of the stories I wanted to tell the most was about confidence I hoped that at least the people
who lis
ten to my music would love themselves more
and strive to be themselves And within that,
I hoped they would gain confidence So when we released it, we just said it's a confidence boost-up song We needed a medium to convey that story And from there, we combined it with fashion I really like the model Kate Moss One of the many reasons I like her is the confidence that shines through her eyes But anyway, this person is an icon of fashion She has a really good style So by projecting onto her I thou
ght I could comfortably tell the story
I wanted to tell That's why we made the song In Korea, people seem particularly sensitive about what I wear Especially about how I look - Yes
- Especially so I recently heard about one characteristic of Korean winter clothing being monochrome This could be because this society
is more community-oriented or could say it's more collective It's more focused on that It seems like many people think it's preferable
to suppress one's individuality a bit and live
without drawing too much attention to oneself This tendency extends to social media and the internet where many people compare themselves with others As a result, there are many people who are quite different from the message That's right. of your song Fashion Style For those who are listening to
KINO's songs now and in the future please deliver a strong message to them How intense should it be? It should be enough to make them jump Hmm, I just hope that those who listen to my songs
will love
themselves more Sincerely The story I want to tell, which doesn't really fit
with the title "Fashion Style," is that it's okay no matter what clothes you wear You are beautiful just the way you are, no matter what you choose to wear You deserve to be confident Just like how I love myself and how I love you all I wanted to tell people to love themselves You got the message? It doesn't matter - what clothes you wear
- Yeah, it really doesn’t matter For people like us who love clothes, fashion is
a tool to express ourselves But that doesn't mean you have to be fashionable That's what NAKED means A gathering of fashionable people
even without wearing anything Like those people We gave that meaning to NAKED Fashionable does not mean wearing flashy clothes
and taking care of how you look but has a fashionable mindset Ultimately, what KINO seems to be saying is the essence The direction that the company NAKED pursues is essence And for the song is essence That's right. The term "essence" it
self may be a bit vague and abstract, but there's a lot of room for us to express and interpret what essence is That's right It could be a process of finding the essence of oneself The first single produced by NAKED,
a group of people who pursue such things Fashion Style. I'd appreciate it if you listen to it a lot Let's talk about Freaky Love Freaky Love Finally, we're going to talk about Freaky Love This song is about the perspective of a delulu,
over-Immersive, and N-Type person - That's rig
ht.
- You gave a very specific context. What story did you want to tell with this song? Have you listened to the song? No, not yet You haven't. Because it's still in the mastering stage So, at the time of filming,
the mixing was completed just a few days ago It's the first time I'm talking about "Freaky Love" to anyone This moment is I'm not sure if it will be revealed to the world for the first time, but it will probably be in the early stages And it's really exciting for me to talk about it
for the first time So, the inspiration for this song
came from something like this When I post POV videos or things like that on TikTok fans often joke about delulu,
wanting some anti-delulu pills There are a lot of comments like “Don't make me delusional.”
And I found that word so intriguing So, I took inspiration from that word and thought
it would be interesting to play around with the lyrics I've been thinking about the situations that can lead to delulu For example, when a friend says th
at
"I think I'm falling in love with someone." "Really? Did you name your future kids?" things like that Imagine having kids and grandkids We joke about how I already decide
what college to send our kid to It would be really fun to tell it through a story So, after putting it all together, it ended up being somewhat like
an English version of ‘Even thought of marriage’ When I read the explanation,
I thought about ‘Your House’ and ‘Even thought of marriage’ ‘Even thought of marriage’ - Like th
at.
- Two songs just came to my mind But I feel like it'll be
much more lovely and adorable - Really cute
- It probably won't be too serious The lyrics are so funny Like, you don't have to bring anything baby Would you like to listen to the song? Should I play it for you now? The reason I want to play this for you is that
I'm really curious about you reaction Because this isn't the kind of music
people expect from KINO It's really light But I love it The purpose of this song is actually very c
lear I wrote it with the hope that people would enjoy it comfortably and lightly The song is really light-hearted That's why I like it so much; it's comfortable And conversational It's very cheerful and quite the opposite of KINO's other serious music. It's so fun I'm imagining having a baby with you right now in my head Popping champagne And popping champagne, but - By the way, what's your name?
- Don't know yet Haven't even gotten that far I have blue checked, too I'm a verified person. It's k
ind of a witty and funny song Blue checks are the official marks, right? Yes verification It's such a cheerful, fun, and lovely song I hope you listen to it often Thank you Please look forward to it. Freaky Love This is so funny Witty Music video will be even cuter I'm more curious about that How did you visualize it? This part is making me curious Then, I have another thing coming When you usually open your song to people around you and say 'Hey, listen,'
I saw some people getting nervous on h
ow that person will think of it Some people worry about this Yes You seem to rather enjoy this It was impressive that
you were enjoying it while listening I like my songs And I like it so much I play you my music,
not because I want to get evaluated It’s more like “I have some good music.
Would you like to listen to it together?” When I founded this NAKED, this kind of mindset really helped a lot I've been talking to many people that “I have this kind of music and I'm going to pursue it as a
solo artist.” “And this is my plan.” and ask “Would you like to join my plan?” About half of them said,
'That sounds fun! Let's give it a try.' The other half were skeptical and asked, “So what are you going to do?” When I played my music to the skeptical ones,
they all reacted like this Hey, this is better than I expected When I played my songs that are yet to come out to the world I gained confidence from this Some of them after hearing my music decided to join me, there were lots of them Th
at was really giving me power last year That's such a good thing Yes, that is That is really a good thing Many people, including myself,
fear receiving negative feedback when sharing our works with others But if we can overcome this fear, the world becomes a much more beautiful
and comfortable place Holding a vague expectation that
people are going to like it is rather a way to get easily disappointed I made this song by myself, I'm so excited,
I want them to hear this Bad reactions? Okay, th
en I'll let other people hear it, not you.
It should be like that Am I not going to release the song? It's not like that, so why would I get depressed? I'm living with this kind of mindset these days Right It seems like a good attitude, and good mindset That's why this is MINDSET Yes This is KINO's MINDSET You are watching KINO's MINDSET At the end of the day, there is a saying that ‘The completion of creation is showing it to others.’ It is showing to other people I heard this somewhere Just a
bout to get released KINO's new baby My new baby Please listen to this new baby. Give much love to Freaky Love Freaky Love We cannot skip this part, too After establishing NAKED, you just finished your very first solo concert in Japan You've been there recently, right? Yes How was it? It was really like a dream. Really It was very similar to the concert of my dreams Not 100%, of course It was a concert where I let out a lot of things I had been wanting
to do but had been holding back At the same
time, I was so happy that
my fans really understood this I was very happy and thankful Because I had a vague fear When I come out as a solo,
it would definitely be different from PENTAGON How many people will come to see me and are they going to enjoy my song?
I really worried a lot about these But this was all gone on the day of the concert I'm so thankful that so many people came I felt motivated to work harder in the future You uploaded the whole process on YouTube recently, right? Yes, Tok
yo Behind video I remember it coming from there “As the time goes by,
I become more nervous to get on the stage.” - You said something like that
- Yes. This is a kind of responsibility to fans and arises from your will to show the better you I think like that Yes, that is also a reason But the biggest reason is this I finally realized that this is so precious I finally realized that
this should not be taken for granted I feel ashamed of myself
for not knowing about it until now Because I some
time think if I were to injure my leg tomorrow
and be unable to dance forever, today's performance will be my last For example, for some reason I lose
my popularity all of the sudden So there could be a moment when
not a single person comes to my concert While these are just examples... There are lots of things and I don't know
what's going to happen in this world Why haven't I given my all to the stage that I love and cherish so much? This is getting more and more precious now That is why I'm g
etting more nervous When I looked up information about you, it seems like you have a perfectionist streak Because of that character, were there times
when you screwed up? And what do you think perfection is? I want to ask that, too Before answering,
my perfectionist character weakened a lot I let go of it a lot, perhaps? That's because it is impossible to be perfect
and if I try to be perfect there would be many things I would screw up So these days, I'm trying to recognize myself as it is So t
hese days, there are so many things
that are more important than being perfect These days, the meaning of perfection has changed a lot I believe that the moment of satisfaction
is the perfect moment Somebody might see and think it is not perfect Something may not be perfect by my standards, but if it satisfies me,
then it can be considered perfect My life now is perfect - Because you are content with it?
- Yes, I'm so satisfied So happy This question just crossed my mind It seems that former i
dol singers feel liberated and find their true calling once they get rid of the idol title, as I've observed with many singers recently So I was wondering what you think I think I understood the standard you mentioned From that perspective, I definitely have more freedom I have the freedom of choice. But one thing that is different is,
I am still an idol I want to be an idol forever What I find the most disappointing is the stark contrast when idols suddenly declare, 'I'm going to be an artist,
' which creates a sense of dissonance for me There are certain expectations that people have for idols Of course, it would be happier to do
what you want to do, and maybe that should be enough for others But I don't think so. For me, I find it very rewarding to satisfy
the people who like me I don't want to do something that
these people don't like Instead mixing what I like and they like and finding the middle,
I think that is really important Sometimes fans say I have nothing else
but jus
t want KINO to be happy People who say like that might think it's okay not to show them your idol-like personality Rather than that You want to live up to expectations of fans? Yes, that's right I have thousands of things that I want to do Among those, I have to make a choice In making that choice,
this serves as an important standard What do they want? Also, what do I want? Because there are so many things I want to do, it doesn't really matter what I choose Which means when I choose what peop
le want it is not even a burden to me, I feel happy I don't want to throw away my title as an idol This is my number one big merit, big benefit I'm someone who has wanted to do this since I was young Do I become an artist after just 7 years? No You are very clear and realistic Rather smart If you are okay with this expression That's a thought that comes to my mind Some would think this is a little strategic,
but this is how I feel really The word "idol" often carries stereotypes For example, cu
teness (Aegyo) Yes Or else like a refined life? Right The life one should restrain a lot? Also people tend to have high standards for idols This happens to make up images of me as an idol But my life fits those criteria very well First of all, I naturally have a lot of cuteness (Aegyo) and I'm very comfortable with that And interacting with fans makes me genuinely happy Before anyone tries to refine me,
I feel like I've already refined myself Very simple life. From the studio to home… Sometimes
hanging out with friends?
Then from home to the studio, sometimes with friends So, I don't really have the desire
to break free from that So when I debuted, my friends asked me a lot about how the life of an idol is? And my usual answer was it feels like it's meant to be I'm really happy and comfortable It's kind of amazing in a good way What do you think you'll be like in 10 years? One of two things I think my life will definitely be like that I don't think there will be a middle ground So, e
ither I'll be extremely successful only with a career as a singer I will be extremely successful or completely fail Honestly Because I always like challenging things But historically, it's like that People who faced challenges in life no, not facing… yeah it's facing Those who confront and challenge life are not always successful But when they succeed, there's more return For them That's right But that's exactly my personality I dislike the middle ground I mean, I appreciate it,
but I don't rea
lly care much about achieving a moderate ranking on music charts If I'm going to do something, I'd rather aim for the top spot, or just enjoy making music happily What efforts should you make to achieve that goal? When you objectively reflect on yourself what are the things that you have to improve? Making choices in every moment without regrets So, just doing my best at the time But actually, I don't think you can avoid regrets And I don't really want to either I’m not going to let the fear of
future regret stop me from doing what I want to do now Even if I might regret it later,
let's do what can make me happy now I'm living my life with that kind of mindset NAKED is the same Like I said earlier this might fail Maybe I might regret it later But I can recover in 10 years and do it again I think it's better to focus on what I need to do, what I want to do, and what I can do with that mindset If I think about that answer here is a very clear goal right now And if KINO is here because t
his goal is so clear, if you just do things that make you happy I feel like these things will move there So, the answer feels like it makes sense Are you optimistic? Yes, I am A bit It's good Because I'm originally a dream chaser very idealistic, optimistic, positive,
and somewhat like that Of course, because of this kind of personality I missed out on a lot because
I didn't have a broad perspective To prevent that I need people around me
who are a bit more pessimistic or critical who can loo
k at things more critically In that sense that you think similar with me it's really a big joy to meet you today Thank you It reminds me of this word As I listen to what you've said The optimist and the pessimist both contribute to society Why? The optimist invents the airplane,
the pessimist invents the parachute I've come across such stories So, everyone is needed in society Wow, that's really true In that sense, UNIVERSE holds a special meaning Rather than… Of course Rather than by yourself,
it's what reminds me of how precious the value of togetherness is How is it? The relationship is not just between a typical singer and a fan or simply those who like and love my music or people who like content I create my style of dressing, appearance, or what I say But they're much more than just that Can people who haven't experienced this truly understand
how I feel? “Does he actually think like that?” People may doubt, but I really do Without these people,
I wouldn't be able to do anythi
ng I'd probably be drawing In the attic To that extent? Yes I probably wouldn't have pursued music. Because there were so many moments
when I wanted to give up music But every time, some kind of power lifted me up It was definitely the power from the UNIVERSE And the concert I am creating for a two-hour set this Saturday I've put in a lot of effort over the past two months And the reason for all this is really because of these people But I've gained a lot of happiness and motivation in this pro
cess and grown from within In the end, it's all thanks to these people And when I'm struggling, we share a lot We have a more mutual relationship than a one-sided one We talk every day and when I'm tired or bored while working,
I send the DM and ask what they're up to With fans I've really come to realize how thankful I am Because, you know, in English, it's called 'unconditional love.' Giving unconditional love only exists
in parent-child relationships in this world There's no other relationsh
ip like that But in recent centuries, another relationship has emerged The relationship between fans and singers is unrealistic If you look at it it's like, “Wow, they can love me this much?” They're willing to do this much for me? But after receiving that,
how can I think 'It's all because I'm good.' There might be some people who think that way,
but they shouldn't Anyway, to cut it short, I'm really thankful to my fans But sometimes, your sincerity can be misunderstood Yes, and distorted or
distorted Yes, a lot Sometimes you have heard, asking if you are pretending what do you think when you hear about that? When your sincerity isn't properly appreciated or understood There are many instances like that,
but I might closed my ears at some point But there really hasn't been any lately Because everyone around me who remains, they really love me and adore me so much I'm truly grateful to have so many of them left So, just spending time with these people, it feels like it's been a long
time since
I receive doubts about being sincere Even among friends, it's the same When we were talking something serious, the members were back then, they used to tease me,
but now, they know who I am When I talked about something cringy or expressed my dreams my friends used to say, 'Stop it,'
because it's cringy But now, they just say, 'That's just how you are.' That's how it's become While spending time with them, it seems like they really got to know you Right The real face of the human H
yeong gu It's not about pretending to be something, but that's his true self What's really interesting is that even our fans know now There used to be people among the fans who doubted Something like, "That’s too much…?" Nowadays, that's not the case Whether only those who don't do that remain
or whether they have changed, I don't know So, like opening doors or holding doors, or suggesting to share an umbrella if they don't have it To me, those things naturally feel like
the duty of being human
For someone, it always seemed excessive - I can totally relate
- Seriously, really If I invite someone into my space,
I should hang their clothes If they've come here,
I should see them off to the first floor There are some obvious things like that I eventually realized that such things
can feel burdensome to someone So now, I do it to people to a certain extent Just, they can accept things on this level It gave me an opportunity to make
some judgments about things like that When I think abou
t it I think you learned those things much earlier than me I’m glad to see that The way you are showing yourself now... - It's your real side, too
- Yes Maybe fans want to know a little more I think they might want to know you
a little more in depth Have you ever thought about how far those aspects can be shown, or how much do you want to show them? Honestly, If my fans want to know me better than I do now, maybe we have to live in a boarding house together or go to a sauna together every day I
t's to the point where I wonder if they could know me more - Already.
- Yes, I'm really... Just... In fact, there are many people
whose on and off the air is different, and there are people whose on and off are similar, but I am really almost the same The image I present is a true reflection of my life But I think it's because you're born to be an idol That is why So, for example, if I have so much to hide, but I do it because it's fun, but if I'm trapped, it'll be very difficult because I'll b
e tied down What am I really hiding? What have I not shared yet? I don't think I showed a little bit about my greed So I guess it wasn't shown totally I don't think I will show it in the future as well - Why?
- Because my greed is too big This might be a little more... I think it would feel a little uncomfortable
If it were me It would be a little uncomfortable if the person I was talking to was really greedy like 120 or 300 I try not to do that, so I only show half of my greed, but people stil
l say, “He's this greedy!” It might actually be overwhelming, right? once they know the size of that greed I think it would be burdensome After talking to you like this,
I see that you have so much love - You laugh a lot
- That's right Your thoughts are warm too So I was going to ask this question, but I think it’s meaning less now What is the difference between KINO and Hyeong gu? But there actually is - There actually is?
- Of course there is Luckily, I have an answer Please tell us about it
There are so many differences between
KINO and Hyeong gu KINO is another personality created as a musician So, I don’t really have a problem with whether you call me KINO or Hyeong gu But I want to reach people with KINO as much as when I'm on stage
and when I'm making music It's a bit difficult to explain this in words, but if I'm going to go down in history,
I want it to be KINO, not Hyeong gu It's okay if I'm not a great person I could really just live my life happily,
taking care of plants
, listening to good music, and making a decent living But KINO has a much bigger dream than Hyeong gu So I hope he does well This is such a difference It's just a bit of personal separation... - Is this an intentional separation?
- Yes - So it's definitely me
- Exactly The roots are here, but the direction in which the branches extend is something that you hope KINO
will expand further and bear fruit That's right As I listen to those stories about self-esteem, - I keep feeling like your self-co
nfidence is very strong
- That's right I think you are a pretty strong person on the inside Not shaken by any wind - I think it's because of your loving family
- You're right I thought of those What do you think is the greatest legacy or strength - that you received from your family?
- It's really difficult I guess I'm the biggest legacy A person in my family named Hyeong gu. Not KINO. KINO was created by Hyeong gu and I think Hyeong gu comes from this family It's kind of funny indeed I told you
earlier that my parents should
write a parenting education book To put it a little differently, what it means is, "How did you raise me so well?" - Right
- In other words, You know, I may not be a perfect person, but I'm a good person But the people who made me such a good person are my parents So, “Mom and dad, you are good parents.
You can write a parenting education book.” This is what I'm saying. I think that's literally it. I’m just the biggest legacy my parents left Do you often tell you
r parents that you love them? - I do it everyday
- You do it everyday It's not easy, but I try to do it, and it's really impressive I think it all started from there When you give advice to people
who are struggling with relationships, you often gives advice like, - “Tell that person you love them.”
- That's right In the end, you learned to tell your mother, father, younger sister, and grandmother that you love them I think it's because you know its power That's right, so this is not only an at
titude for my family, but also an attitude for myself in life I was just giving advice as an attitude for each person To quote a director, this is a very famous saying “If you try to love instead of hating, the world will change The view you see changes.” What he was saying was, he was sitting on a bus like this and
there was a woman applying nail polish It was smelly and he was annoyed
with what she was doing in public The director once imagined that
she was the main character in a movie, and
she was such a lovely character It's something really beautiful So, try loving the feeling of hatred you have towards someone, and to love that person you hate It is the same context There are a million reasons to hate someone, but there are a billion times more reasons to love someone Among the lyrics of a song I wrote a long time ago in the lyrics of the song "Sunflower," it says, “It’s not enough time to even love.” In such a short time... Ah, in such a short time... it's meaningless to get a
nnoyed… There are such words. Because if I hate someone, - I’m the one having a hard time
- Yes I'm trying to love a little more Not only my parents and family members For those who are watching this, tell that you love to someone right next to you Then I think something magical will happen Little magic in everyday life The moment I tell the person next to me that I love them The fun and good things that I didn't expect - will happen
- True When I think about it, when did I tell my older brother
and younger sister whom I live with, that I love them? Have I never done that? I've thought as such When did I tell my friends that I loved them? I think of that, too - That's right.
- And to my parents as well. - That is probably the most important thing
- It's not easy I think I overlooked it because I took it for granted So do my fellow members Same goes for the crew members I compose with Everyone is really... They hate such things - Skinship and things that make you cringey
- Cringey I tol
d them that I love them every day for 10 years Yeah, I love you too There are moments where they are so adorable When that happens, just give a kiss on the cheek and they'll wipe it off These days, like nothing happened, just... Oh, you're here? Somehow these people are changing like that - With your love?
- Yes. Our eldest brother JINHO said
something like that once during a concert Since Hyeong gu always tells me that he loves me, I can now express it a little more I'm very grateful to hear th
at Anyway, the power of love is truly great That’s what it is Let's love, everyone Let's love It's not something to be shy about - Yes, how important it is, really
- Exactly What I'm curious about is that KINO is currently in his mid-20s What are you literally
most worried about these days? What do you think about the most? But I don't think I can give a good answer to this, unfortunately Because to be honest, there are some realistic concerns that need to be addressed For instance, to explain
it in a simple way things like,
should I release a song in April or May? I don't have worries other than these realistic ones That's what I feel lately This obviously could be
because things are hectic and I'm busy or I may be feeling too proud and kind of settled in myself but I don't have big worries or uneasiness it's just when someone asks what's my worries I just want to let people listen to my music quickly Thinking of the proper time And since I can't release everything
even when I wri
te 100 songs I also think a lot on which song I should release For a moment, I tried to think of
the reason you don't have worries You currently have a pretty refined lifestyle and it's simple, right? in a good way You know what you have to do Because of that,
I think there's no space for anything else to interfere I think so I think you're right Not having any worries is a really good thing It is a good thing It's a good thing, for sure I've said this even in the beginning of this
Mindset Pod
cast, that I'm happy I really am I feel so sleepy right now I'm so sleepy, but I'm really happy It's happiness in exchange for sleep, everyone Seems like it For me, what makes this podcast fun right now, maybe I am speaking with the happiest person on earth right now How meaningful it is This moment is just as precious to me You all must be jealous of me, right? I'm speaking with the happiest person in the world right now I hope this happiness reaches you as well That's true Just through that po
sitive energy,
I think wherever you go others will think, 'The joy and positive vibes from this guy even reaches me' Let's go to a whisky bar together sometime Sure, let's go I'll leave my personal worries before going Okay You can bring your worries as well I won't be able to consult my worries
since we'll talk about whisky anyway I'll pour all my worries before going Fair enough All right Whisky Then it seems like we're at the end of what we have prepared Before we end this, we'll have rapid f
ire questions I've prepared some fun questions for you How do you describe yourself in one word? Do compound words count as one word? Yeah, sure That's fine Around a year or a year and a half ago, I gave a definition for my painting That word itself kind of describes myself too I call it 'beautiful chaos' It means beautiful chaos in Korean There's a book written by writer Jang Seok Joo I don't really remember the book's title I think it's called 'Today, we walk
while telling each other to be car
eful' it's a book about a story of a married
couple writers living in Sydney for a month The book is divided exactly in half and
that one month is written in their own way sharing each other's perspective so when
I read this side and move to the other side, I can see the differences although
they're both on the same timeline these kinds of perspective,
it's a really beautiful book It's a book that I bought for a close friend
as a wedding gift While at it,
I also read it myself and it's reall
y good but honestly, it's not related to the book at all the word 'Beautiful chaos' It's just at that moment when I saw these words I was wondering, what is my drawing about? What definition should I give to it? It wasn't needed, but I wanted to give one While I was thinking about it,
I was reading the book I read a part where they're in a park in Sydney seeing Australian girls playing around
while laughing with so much joy and they expressed it as a beautiful chaos
or something like that At t
hat moment, the words stood out in my eyes This is it This is my painting Because my painting has so many colors So many to the point you'll wonder
how is the combination even possible But these combined colors are so beautiful That's why I call it as a beautiful chaos But then it's similar to my life I love to experience and do a lot of things,
also challenge myself Sometime I feel broken, cool, happy, sad,
in a joy, and these a lot of feelings combined to express that I'm on a journey of
crea
ting a beautiful life beautiful chaos I feel like future interviewees
who watch this later would feel like they need to think deeply to answer this question before coming here Using this video as the reference Yeah, beautiful chaos Does that sound too cool? Yeah, exactly Your answer was too awesome What should they do? I'm joking It's nice, beautiful chaos Next question What's your plan after this podcast shooting finishes? I have to go to the studio I still have some unfinished arrangements Do
you tend to keep a work-life balance? How is it for you? Almost none at all, it's unbelievable but it keep sounds like I keep bragging although it's not something to brag about. Please do This morning too, I mean I don't sleep much these days I can hardly sleep As I mentioned earlier, I worked until 5 a.m. today with the band the day before too, I worked since morning from 10 a.m. in the morning I finished and went back at 6 a.m then
left around 9:30, I mean at 10 a.m I left at 10 a.m.,
but b
efore that I needed to get ready at 9:30 a.m so I woke up at 9 a.m I went to the salon, radio and came here right after After this, I'll work and arrange songs Work on other things and once it's done,
it will be dawn, right? but tomorrow I have to get up at 10 a.m again I hardly sleep, what is work-life balance? This is… What is work-life balance? Where's life? Please take omega 3 Please give me life Life disappeared His life isn't there right now. Where did life go? But don't you think what I
said earlier makes sense? I mean, where can I hide? That's what I'm saying, you're too honest It's because I can't do anything You don't have any time to do nonsense I don't have time to drink and make trouble That makes sense I'm not bragging for being busy at all I like sleeping and it's a joy for me too, everyone You don't have to feel bad, it's just Please show your support Please show me your support This side of him. I'm working hard like this silently having so much fun How awesome is tha
t? To show him your support Please like, comment and share this a lot as well That's right I think that'll do - With that, we've come to the end of this show
- It's the end? If there's anything you couldn't say
throughout the podcast today or if you have anything you want to say to the fans I'd appreciate it if you can add your thoughts
on today's podcast as well First of all I'm happy to be able to meet good people today Does it make sense for me
to feel this ends too soon at this hour? It d
oesn't make sense That's how smooth our conversation went And I feel thankful and happy because
everyone is a good person And everyone who's currently listening
to this MINDSET Podcast If you're listening right now, I'm sure that
means you already watched from the start For being curious and listening to my boring talks and for listening excitedly,
I'd like to say thank you so much Let's empathize with each other for a long time sharing struggles and joy comfortably,
while showing love I hop
e we can see each other like that Please look forward to 'Freaky Love' 'Freaky Love' make sure to check it out All right
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