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The Struggle With Segovia.

"The Apostle and Patriarch of Guitar". Andrés Segovia's legacy is a blend of genius and controversy. In this video, tonebase creator Jakob Schmidt and tonebase artist Professor Stephen Goss explore the profound impact of this guitar maestro. We delve into Segovia's remarkable contributions to classical guitar, his complex persona, and the myths surrounding him. Let us know in the comments what your thoughts on Segovia are. 00:00 Intro 01:32 An abridged biography 02:25 The cultural phenomenon 04:42 The invention of the canon 06:05 Transcriptions and commissions 08:54 The Civil War and the Golden Age 11:30 Conclusion --- tonebase gives you instant access to knowledge from the world's greatest classical guitarists, performers, and educators. Learn more by visiting https://tonebase.co/guitar?utm_source=youtube Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/tonebaseteam/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/tonebaseteam/ Blog - https://www.tonebase.co/guitar/blog Questions? Contact us: team@tonebase.co

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Andrés Segovia. He set the stage like no one else.  Guitar would not be the same without him. His obituary was on the first page of the  freaking New York Times. That’s president-level. In this video, we’re going to look at what we  inherited from the “daddy of all guitarists”. What do today’s masters think of him? What’s  inspiring and what can be left behind? For many people outside the guitar world, for many decades, the guitar was Segovia.  It’s very difficult to get beyond that. However, yo
unger guitarists don’t think  much about Segovia anymore. To them, he’s the guy on the string packets. If you know a bit more, maybe heard some gossip  at festivals you might think he was a grumpy, self-serving maestro, someone long superseded  by more advanced generations of players. As it turns out, there’s more to him. Sometimes  really surprising, some of it rather disturbing. It’s good to understand Segovia if  you want to understand the guitar. Don’t worry, this video is not going  to be y
et another boring biogra… Segovia was born in Linares, Spain, and  his family wanted him to become a lawyer. He said “nope” and became the first person in history to prove that playing guitar  all day is a great financial decision! He moved from being the talk of the  town to being the talk of every town. On the way there, he took the guitar from  being modest and simple to GREAT and SERIOUS. To kids learning the instrument now, Segovia  is as much of a distant historical figure as Tárrega or So
r. In fact, his birthday is  closer to Paganini’s than it is to today! What sets him apart is that Segovia  got old, really old. His career as a musician spans over almost the entire  20th century, and he was teaching, writing, arranging, and playing concerts  until the very end, to massive audiences. Segovia didn’t perform like your usual classical  solo guitarist. He sold out the big theaters, thousands of people gathering to witness him. The venues were often comically out-sizing  the musicia
n and his instrument, which was un-amplified whenever possible.  Segovia hated using microphones. His concerts relied on skillful projection,  immense amounts of expressiveness, a strong stage presence, and a disciplined audience that  had to remain quiet no matter how large it was. From what I’ve heard, this worked  more often than not. The concerts, especially during his prime, are held in  high regard and considered memorable events, recalled with fondness even a lifetime later. Segovia was a
huge cultural phenomenon. In fact,  more than once I talked to older folks that might not even know anything about guitar, and they  will still remember visiting his concerts. For example, a friend of mine from  Minnesota recalled being at a Segovia concert when she was little. I looked up Segovia’s concert calendar from that time and found  a newspaper article announcing the event. Even back then, 63 years ago, Segovia was  described as the grand old maestro with an endless career behind him,
expecting  to retire in four or five years. Good grief! In reality, he ended up  spending another twenty-six years on stage! In between that concert and  Segovia’s eventual death, other „very nice young men“ had  their entire careers happening! ..and some of these he wasn’t too fond of. The newspaper article closes with this line: Does he ever play contemporary music?  “No, never.” He likes some folk music, he said, but not professional folk  music which is “only for show.” I knew that Segovia h
ad a traditional  outlook and strong opinions, but reading such a confident  condemnation of popular music, here in this random innocent newspaper  article - I still found it surprising. As it turns out, Segovia didn’t just  oppose popular music, he also turned his back on Flamenco, the very roots  of Spanish folklore he grew up with. One of the key things about Segovia is that  he is a man of the between wars period. The aesthetics and historical context was all  very, very different. At the sa
me time he absolutely detested  a large part of what was developing in contemporary classical music. At this  point, we’re cutting options left and right. I mean, he was a very complicated  character. And you know, it was the era of the great man, of the maestro,  and he certainly played up to that a lot. All these sorts of iconic performers  largely performed music from Bach to the early 20th century. This was the  kind of calcified canon of piano, violin, cello and voice. It basically still is
. But I think what he did, the  sort of major achievement was to bring the guitar into the classical mainstream. Segovia’s main concern was that the guitar didn’t  have a classical tradition. And so he made one up. Yup, you’ve heard that right. What is today taught as the canon of classical guitar  music, did not grow organically. To a large extent, it was imagined by this  marketing genius, the first guitar influencer. How is this possible? He did it through his transcriptions  and he did it th
rough his commissioning. It’s amazing when you think that Dowland, Bach, Albéniz, Granados never wrote  a single note for the guitar. What Segovia did was try to convince  the public that the guitar had a rich classical tradition and it was  a serious classical instrument. The reality is that it’s all basically a  bit of a fake repertoire. It’s something sort of fabricated and sort  of filled in historically. That’s not a criticism, it was just  a brilliant way of Segovia bringing the guitar int
o the musical mainstream.  Fantastically imaginative and successful. Nowadays, Segovias arrangements  are notorious for being highly idiomatic. They’re loose translations  rather than strict transcriptions, merging the music of varied centuries  into one romantic, expressive style. Decades of research and historically informed  practice make us smarter in hindsight, but we easily overlook that Segovia was  often the first to popularize certain works. Case in point, the Bach prelude we  heard at
the beginning: Segovia likely did the first commercial recording of  this piece, across all instruments! Countless other melodies we consider standard  today were brought to public attention by Segovia. What about his commissions? He wasn’t really commissioning for the future of  the instrument or to have contemporary music for guitar. He was fabricating a past, a romantic  past. Nearly all the composers he commissioned wrote in a style that was essentially  neo-romantic. As opposed to neo-class
ical, neo-classical would have a little bit  more critical engagement with music of the past. But Segovia’s taste was for a  kind of nostalgic style that would then give the guitar some kind of romantic  tradition that might compare with the important instruments. One of the things he did when he  commissioned composers was to keep them away from the instrument, from the  idiom, and not to let them loose on it. Because of course, if a composer  starts to discover the guitar, they get very excite
d by things  like rasgueado, open strings, and the kind of idiosyncrasies that our  instrument has, which a lot of music of today really celebrates. Whereas Segovia saw these  things as ways of cheapening the instrument. His idea was that they would just simply  write music and then he would make that music work on guitar. And that was  the deal. All the composers knew this. You get the impression, certainly from reading  the letters with Ponce and the letters with Castelnuovo-Tedesco, that Sego
via was incredibly  dictatorial about exactly what he wanted. The first half of the 20th century  was a time of constant turmoil, politically, culturally, socially. In Spain, tensions erupted into a full-scale civil war - an immense catastrophe in  so many areas, including music. While touring in the Soviet Union,  his house was looted by supporters of the Republican government.  Through fortunate circumstances, he managed to get away from Spain and  chose to live in exile in Uruguay. From there
, far away from the danger and  to the dismay of many, Segovia voiced his support for General Franco and a lot of  later animosity towards him stems from this. Fellow artists were killed or imprisoned  by Franco’s nationalist-authoritarian revolution. Many more suffered from the  oppression that Segovia chose to side with. Whether it was from a deeply held belief, or just  out of opportunism, is difficult to determine. There’s a wonderful Jean-Paul Sartre quote  from his novel Nausea, where he s
ays “A man is a teller of tales. He lives his  life as if he’s recounting it.” And I get the feeling with Segovia that  he was basically writing a story, writing a narrative, which has him as the main  character, him as a sort of central figure. A lot of the early 20th century figures  and a lot of the way that the sort of history was painted at that time is about  these individuals, these sort of great men. Yes, he sided with Franco, but  he kind of identified with this notion of this great sor
t of Spanish tradition. It’s kind of summed up more than  anything else in the Fantasia para un gentilhombre, because it kind of  looks back at this kind of golden age. But actually, you know the golden  era for guitar is right now. The amount of activity and the number of  incredible players and compositions and things that are being written at the moment.  It’s the best time the guitar’s ever had. That’s in part due to Segovia, it’s in part  due to John Williams, Julian Bream, but it’s also to
do with a huge cultural shift, that, you  know, rather than the piano being at the center of music making, the guitar has become incredibly  central through popular music, through folk music. It’s an instrument that can cross stylistic  boundaries very, very easily, very quickly. The technical level now, compared with when I was  studying as a student, you know, has gone through the roof! This kind of level of technical control  is something that was just not there before. To sum things up, we
can be grateful for  what Segovia has achieved for our instrument. While after him, there might never again  be a guitarist of such singular importance, the instrument itself is more popular than ever. At the same time, we can also be grateful  that his ideas and methods no longer dominate. Nowadays, crossing stylistic boundaries  is the norm, not the exception. The standard repertoire is evolving and growing  faster than ever, organically and with modern compositions becoming accepted to the ma
instream  a lot quicker than for other instruments. More than anything, teaching styles have evolved, emphasizing individual qualities over the  authoritarian master-apprentice approach. Tonebase is the next step in this evolution,  democratizing the access to methods and knowledge that was until now sheltered behind  the doors of universities and conservatoires. Many thanks in particular  to Professor Stephen Goss, whose contributions to  tonebase are already immense. If you sign up for a 14-da
y trial period  now, you get immediate access to our entire library, including dozens of excellent  productions by and with Professor Goss. Researching this topic was particularly touchy, as some of the battles surrounding  Segovia’s legacy are still being fought to this day. Of course, there are also many more  things about Segovia we didn’t discuss, like his teaching and his involvement in  the development of guitar construction. Almost looks like there’s more stuff coming! Let us know in the
comments what your thoughts  on Segovia are! If you enjoyed the video, consider leaving a like and a subscription. Cheers, and see you next time!

Comments

@GodsUnrulyFriends

This is my personal experience with the Terrifying Spectacle of Andres Segovia When I was about 19 or 20, sometime around 1980 (the last of his years of strength as a guitarist), I attended a concert of Andreas Segovia at the Milwaukee Performing Arts Center I arrived about ten minutes before the concert, actually, I had been worried I would be late. But I made it in time and sat in the 13th row center. My attitude was that I would enjoy the concert and maybe learn something, or pick up some ideas. Little did I know,,, The house lights went down, and Maestro Segovia walked on stage. I had noticed there were no microphones or sound system; no amplification of any kind. And this was in a venue holding 1200 people (I think). The Maestro was carrying his guitar, but for some reason, I didn’t think it was the Hauser guitar he usually played. It also occurred to me that here was a man who not only had been playing guitar at the top of the game for almost 70 years, he single handedly defined modern classical guitar. He sat down, checked his tuning, and looked around. Then, his eyes fell upon me. And he stared at me. Yes, I was a victim of the dreaded Segovia Stare! With God as my witness, I was not fidgeting or making noise. I sat quietly and respectfully waited for the Maestro to play. Perhaps he didn’t like the way I looked (I was a rock & roll gladiator from hell with long scraggly hair, wearing a denim jacket and a colorful Jimi Hendrix t-shirt). After pinning me to my seat with his unnerving stare, he got up and walked off stage. The audience was murmuring like “what the hell is going on.” I was terrified that I was somehow the cause of him walking off. Then he returned, carrying a different guitar, one that looked like his usual Hauser! I thought that he had read my mind and knew I recognized that the first guitar he carried wasn’t his usual one! From that moment on, I was scared to death of him. He knew more about me than I knew about myself. Then he began to play. Watching videos of Segovia is always a pleasure. But actually being there is quite another thing. Everyone heard every note he played. His sound filled the auditorium. Every phrase was sublime poetry, every note was a perfectly crafted work of art. After the concert, he was speaking to some people near the stage. I considered approaching him with the same youthful brazenness I had once approached Joe Pass and others. But I didn’t; I was still scared of him. Needless to say, I regret not doing so. Even if he told me off, it would have made for a great story. I went home, picked up my guitar, and tried to play it. I couldn’t. I put it in its case and couldn’t touch it for three weeks. In retrospect, Segovia set forces into motion that are still impacting the world of music. Some of it was not what he'd intended. And he was a flawed and imperfect man. But we owe him a debt. At this point, I would forgive him his very human failings and shortcomings and celebrate the good things he achieved.

@denniswinters3096

It's not fair to judge him in terms of today's sensibilities. His outlook was formed by the consciousness of the 19th Century, and what he achieved within that context is extraordinary. Thank you for making this video - much appreciated. I always go back to a beautiful film that was made in the mid-Seventies called, Andre Segovia- The Song Of The Guitar. It's available on You Tube, and it's pure magic.

@vKarl71

Segovia played in my college gym in about 1970 to a huge sold-out crowd. He came out on stage to a loud sustained applause & sat down, tuned, then waited for the audience to quiet down. The audience quieted down. He waited & looked around the gym until the audience got the idea that they REALLY needed to quiet down. They quieted down more. He kept waiting. When this process was complete it was astoundingly quiet. I seemed that nobody was even breathing. Finally he played & the sense of focus that permeated the room was something I had never experienced before or since. The sound of his guitar was indescribably beautiful.

@samyard

60 years ago I bought an Lp of Andres Segovia. It hit me so heavily, that I brought my trumpet back to the musicstore and changed to the classical guitar. The Dame in the store gave me the name and tel nr of a wonderful guitar teacher I studied with for about 10 years. And then I studied classical guitar for several years in a conservatory. I've seen Andres Segovia 3 times life in different cities in Germany. I remember the first concert I had goose bumps all over. And for decades now I'm a guitar teacher - all began with Andres Segovia ❤

@chipnewtonguitarmusic546

Jazz guitarist here with a lot of classical study. My earliest exposure to classical guitar was Segovia, Bream and Williams. I liked many others but i always preferred the musicians who had their own sound and concept. In the jazz world, thats one of the signal virtues; respectfully learning the past but developing your own sound and approach. When i hear the aforementioned guitarists, i hear their personalities shine through...most importantly from Segovia. Hearing him play, he has his own poetry that all great artists of the 20th century had. I never tire of his playing, even in his later years.

@vancerenfroe2918

Dear Jakob (and Professor Goss), Thank you for this interesting perspective on our Godfather, Segovia. I heard Segovia play at Florida State University in February 1969 and was profoundly moved. In grad school that fall I studied religion getting ready for a doctorate in Theology, but also studied guitar with Mario Abril. On December 13, 1969, I was drafted for the Vietnam War and everything in my life changed with two exceptions: My wife of 55 years is still by my side, and before dawn on the morning you published this brief opinion piece on Segovia, I played the preludes for BWV 998, 999, and BWV 1007, and spent an hour working on a fugue. Dear friends, Segovia is alive in me and millions of others who have been in love with the classical guitar since hearing him perform. Segovia should be studied not because he has "holy status" for putting the guitar to work as a concert instrument, or because of his superior skill among all other performers on the instrument. Rather, we should pay homage to him as a major influencer, the one destined to bequeath to almost a century of guitarists around the world a burning love for music and a reverence for the classical guitar that have eternal life. Segovia created the inspiration for guitarists, young or old, to move from his shadow into the bright light carried forward by each successive generation of performers who are taking interpretation, execution, composition, theory, and guitar construction to higher ground. Very respectfully, Vance Renfroe

@pianoredux7516

I was at his last New York solo recital in the mid 1980s. He walked very slowly out to the stage. He was a large man, almost ungainly, until he sat down and began to play. Then he was the soul of elegance, with an almost understated expressiveness that, like that of the pianist Alicia De Larrocha, paradoxically came over as a powerful, authoritative expressive style. He seemed like a gentleman from another era that day to me.

@kithg

I was fortunate to attend several of Segovia's "last concerts," in different cities throughout my youth. I loved his playing. I was a teenager and didn't care about his politics, his teaching style, his compositional style. He literally made the classical guitar. And I was simply entranced with his sound. That amazing sound. That no one has yet come close to. I understand that many modern players have rejected that sound. Not all. And I believe that when a player who is capable of it (because it is difficult!) plays that sound, it will again be popular. Simply because it is beautiful.

@zorromaricopa

The Flamenco issue. When Frederico Garcia Lorca and Manuel De Falla held the first Cante Jondo flamenco festival in Granada in 1922 , Segovia played a Soleares, while Lorca recited his poem Silverio. I studied classical guitar with a peer of Segovia, Vicente Gomez. Gomez insisted that I include flamenco in my repertoire (which I did begrudgingly because of the Segovia rule). I believe that as you point out Segovia was on a personal mission to “rescue the guitar from the busy hands of the flamenco players” to establish the guitar as a respected part of the classical tradition. Also, it was a class issue as Gitanos at that time were not part of the upper class structure he wanted to infiltrate. Gomez included both classical and flamenco in his concerts much to the joy of his audience.

@sandyw38

As a member of the Pittsburgh Classical Guitar Society, I had dinner, as part of a small group, with Segovia on several occasions. His Hauser guitar seldom left his side.I also attended after concert coffee with Segovia, along with perhaps -67 other classical guitar aficionados. His taste and enthusiasm for traditional guitar music has been viewed as narrow and restrictive, in the same manner as Horowitz was a romantic, or Glenn Gould was about J.S. Bach. Critics always have something to say. Our brief meetings with this master impressed me as to his kindness, inquisitiveness and interest in other people, and his generosity with his time, when he was very fatigued from travel. He wanted only the very best music for the guitar and music that would resonate its beauty. It was evident he explored many avenues to bring his masterful playing and the beauty of the music to the world. Unlike many musicians who may be pedantic, or irritable, we never witnessed this, in his presence. I found him to be a pure. musical academic with genuine warmth for his fans.

@j.p.7708

I once took lessons from ELI KASSNER, a student of Segovia…..my life has been blessed 🎸

@urbachd

Thank you so much for this video! My mother received an LP of Segovia in 1960, the year I was born. I grew up listening to Segovia so much that every nuance in how he played each piece is etched in my memory. I finally saw him play in person in 1983. He was very old, and couldn't play well at all. Nevertheless, there were moments in his playing that were so characteristic of him that my brain resonated with those moments, and I was moved to tears. (I am not given to such moments, and I was embarrassed for my friends to see it.) While I now prefer players such as David Russell and Manuel Barrueco, Segovia was the beginning, and he deserves great respect and acknowledgement. Thanks again!

@nigelthomson9287

Thanks so much for this warts-and-all snapshot. After all this time it's amazing to see the passions that the maestro stirs in us!

@franzenmusic

Great video. Very balanced and fair approach to his history. Thank you!

@rikspector

You are a very good host with an excellent voice and ease when discussing events and people. Cheers, Rik Spector

@SergioMartinez-ff6ng

Excelente video, very eye opening, and inspiring. My respect For Segovia and his legacy. Tone base is ruling this era of guitar. Thanks

@myyootube2

When I was a teen wanting to get a start at learning guitar I picked up a Segovia instruction book and first page I opened to showed him teaching that the thumb must ALWAYS be behind the guitar neck and can never wrap around. My favorite guitarist at the time was Jimi Hendrix (still actually), who nearly always wrapped his thumb so... I later came to appreciate Segovias mastery but, the effect of that experience was to cause me to never take the established taught way as gospel without experimenting myself, and to always look at alternate grips, instrument angles, and other ways of doing things than what is commonly taught. I have his dominant obnoxious teachings style to thank for sending me running the other way! I would have loved to have seen his concert however.

@wcbibb

I met Segovia at UCLA in the ĺate 60s. I worked for the university. I was able to talk with him before he played Royce Hall. He told me that he warmed up for two hours before a performance. It was just he and me.

@capnzilog

Superb presentation, and very brave. Being of a certain age, everything I suspected but couldn't dare to bring up. Thank you!

@bencurmusicproductions9677

I saw Segovia at the Dorothy Chandler Pavilion, LA some 50 years ago. It's a huge hall. No microphone! It was a great concert and I was able to shake his hand afterwards. I have large hands his dwarfed them. Mid seventies, I studied at USC with Pepe Romero et al. Segovia held master classes at USC. I wasn't able to play for him because I graduated before the series. I personally don't think he was a great teacher but he was larger than life in what ever he did. When I started college in the 60s, only several colleges offered a degree in classical guitar. Thanks to Segovia, Bream, Pepe and others, there are many excellent guitarists these days. (douglas hein)