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Agenda Against Underprivileged People | Veganism and Casteism | Tamil Nadu | Q & A

People either knowingly or unknowingly have a bad habit of telling Vegans that they have a casteist agenda as they are promoting the eradication of meat. But this argument falls flat on it's face for the following reasons : 1. Brahminical Vegetarianism was one of the tools used in the past to put down certain groups of people and not give them equal rights in society as they were labelled as lower humans or untouchables. This was possible because there was a differentiating factor between vegetarians and meat eaters and many vegetarians wanted it to be that way as such a differentiating factor would benefit them. Vegans do not benefit from people eating meat, dairy, eggs or honey. Vegans are actively trying to make others also become Vegan. So how can a group that is actively trying to remove the differentiating factor be blamed to create division when they are trying to eradicate the very ground on which Brahminical Vegetarianism was grown on? 2. Vegans are not Vegetarians, Vegans condemn Vegetarians. Vegetarianism is a diet based on culture, religion or tradition. Veganism is a philosophy based on the fact that animals are sentient beings like us and have the right to live on Earth without being exploited as a slave, just like we do. 3. If there is a person Vegan/Non-Vegan who engages in Casteist behaviour then I do condemn that as equally as I condemn the consumption of meat, dairy, eggs and honey. All forms of discrimination are equal. All racist, homophobic, sexist, casteist and speciesistic wrong doings should be condemned equally. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ Supporting my work : UPDATE : You can now support my work via Google Pay as well : arvindanimalactivist@oksbi Patreon Link : https://www.patreon.com/ArvindAnimalActivist For the Vegans out there who want to and are in a position to financially support my work, please read the following. If you like the work we do and feel you can support us when it to comes to the maintenance, repair of our equipment and also our overhead charges please consider supporting our Patreon. There are tiers that range from $1 a month to $15 a month. You can choose any tier you want to, but please note that I will not be making any exclusive content for Patreon as me and my partner are too occupied making content for our current social media handles. Thanks in advance. Also if you are non vegan please do not become a donor. Don't give money for a cause that tries to abolish animal exploitation while exploiting animals yourself in order to cancel out your guilt. Please do not support me financially if you are not a Vegan yourself. Thanks! ___________________________________________________________________________________________________ You can also choose to follow me on : Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/ArvindAnimal... Instagram : https://www.instagram.com/arvindanima...

Arvind Animal Activist

4 months ago

So you tell Veganism is better Than having meat food and everything What do you mean by better exactly? Better meaning it is ethical Fair enough…I say that yes So when we see history Back in the olden days the same thing happened Those who ate meat where treated as untouchables Poor people who tend to kill animals Poor people who tend to kill animals They were growing animals to kill and eat Because they were untouchables So I do think it is a modern way of political lobby Bringing up Veganism a
gainst non vegetarians Okay can I answer right now? Number 1, you are confusing vegetarianism Brahminical vegetarianism With Veganism Which is why, I don’t know if you noticed in the beginning I said Unlike vegetarianism which is a diet people tend to follow for religious, cultural or spiritual reasons Veganism is not a diet It’s an animal rights cause that exists for the sole purpose of ending violence to all animals Vegans condemn Brahmins Because Brahmins are not Vegans They wear silk Comes f
rom boiling silk worms They happily drink milk, eat curd rice Not to mention vegetarians also eat eggs sometimes Vegetarians for their weddings they use horses They will go to the zoo or circus They don’t care about animals Vegetarianism has nothing to do with animals Vegetarianism and caste what you speak is true, that I agree 100% But you in this position right now are confusing Veganism Along with vegetarianism. Whether you are knowingly doing it or unknowingly doing I don’t know But do you f
irst agree that these 2 are different? Veganism and… So what I am spreading here… But anyways you tell that Veganism is all about Vegetables and it is a modern form of telling that It is a modern form of telling that Veganism is superior than eating meat Let me ask you a question It is bringing in a discrimination And if suppose this spreads up Won’t it create casteism And social issues and create social problems Fair enough, let me answer you So when you saw me speaking here in the beginning B
efore I even mentioned what speciesism is Did you see me here speaking about casteism? You saw me? I mentioned what it is? I mentioned that humans used to behave this way? They will say “I am special, I am superior” Do you think I support casteism or I am against it? What do you think about me personally? Since you know me for 1 hour, what do you think about me? You are neutral - Neutral - Neutral. Fine. So at least I am not harmful So when it comes to…I am not causing any harm to anybody So if
you see a Vegan out there Who is again staying stuff like that then please do condemn them. That is wrong I will never ever say casteism is right. Of course it is 100% wrong. If I am standing here and saying that it is wrong to kill a chicken I very well in my brain understand that you another human are my equal Of course we are equal Now you are looking at it in the wrong way, superior - inferior My point was not to come to the class and say “Oh look at me” “I’m a Vegan and I’m better than all
of you guys” I’m trying to show you the reality of what is happening Which has been hidden from you through marketing I am showing this to you and showing how it is similar to other forms of discrimination If you are someone who has suffered from casteism It is all the more important for you to become Vegan Because you should now realize that you are treating animals the same way you don’t want others to treat you How is there any difference between casteism, sexism, racism, homophobia, species
ism? Either discrimination is wrong or it is right. You cannot pick and choose where it is wrong. I am saying it is wrong. I am against all forms of discrimination Every human in this classroom is an equal Similarly I am not even asking you to think that every animal is an equal I am just asking you to think that an animal’s life is not more important than your taste buds That’s all You don’t have to think an animal is your equal Just please live a life Where you think that they are not more imp
ortant than your tongue, that’s all I am asking you Is that wrong? Okay, one more question is this whole meat industries are on crores and crores of business. You're disturbing it may cause an economic crisis also. So what would be the solution for it? Sure, I'll answer that question. So if you're talking about people who are working in these industries like these farmers who again come from impoverished and underprivileged places, let me talk about that. You see firstly losing a job temporar
ily, again let me finish this fully, hear me out. Losing a job temporarily is not the same as being unemployed forever. When a particular sector is no longer profitable, people will move from this sector to another sector. As we move towards the vegan world, more and more vegan food options will come into play. This does not mean necessarily something like soya meat or soya milk. Even something as simple as grains and dal and fruits and vegetables I'm talking about. This is a slow and gradual
shift in society, very slow gradual shift and not an overnight change that will suddenly lead to a collapse and leave all farmers stranded without money or anything like that. But you have to understand one thing here which you may not like to hear but I have to say it. The farmer is not the victim in this scenario, the animals are. Think of it this way, if a farmer were kidnapping you and your family and trying to sell your organs in the black market and I stopped the farmer, does that mean
that I now have Brahmin agenda, I now have an agenda against farmers? No, it just basically means that I have basic respect and value for your life. The sad thing is that most people feel that animals are not deserving of this very same basic respect and consideration just because they're animals whereas their murderers are just because they are human, speciesism. You see, if saving you meant that a farmer had to go out of business, you would still want me to save your life. Don't you think t
he animals who are right now suffering and dying feel the exact same way? They do. In case you lose a job, you can get another one. If you lose money, you can earn it back. A lost life does not come back. These animals value their lives just as much as you and me value our own. So this is not going to be an immediate change. It will happen slowly. We are basically changing the products on the shelf. We are not changing who is putting it there. The product instead of meat will now be vegan.
That's it. We're just trying to change what product is being put on the shelf. The supply chain will be the same. What is in the chain is only different. People who are working in the chain, they'll still be working. It's just that there will be newer things they'll be working on. That's it. Do you get my point?

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For the Vegans out there who want to and are in a position to financially support my work, please read the following. If you like the work we do and feel you can support us when it to comes to the maintenance, repair of our equipment and also our overhead charges please consider supporting our Patreon. There are tiers that range from $1 a month to $15 a month. You can choose any tier you want to, but please note that I will not be making any exclusive content for Patreon as me and my partner are too occupied making content for our current social media handles. Thanks in advance. Also if you are non vegan please do not become a donor. Don't give money for a cause that tries to abolish animal exploitation while exploiting animals yourself in order to cancel out your guilt. Please do not support me financially if you are not a Vegan yourself. Thanks! Patreon Link : https://www.patreon.com/ArvindAnimalActivist You can now support my work via Google Pay as well : arvindanimalactivist@oksbi

@jonjonwp

He wasn't happy that Arvind completely debunked him. Arvind is completely master of any situation in this sphere.

@dhruvbhartia90

This guy should be a lawyer. The arguments are so damn strong and lucid. Though I am not a vegan I found his arguments very perspective changing and convincing.

@parthpant8894

You are a legend!! It's a touchy subject navigating India's Brahmanical history with the cause of animal ethics, but you presented it brilliantly!! Thanks for this!!! Veganism forever!

@tolykozin

Arvind has his mind and heart in the right place. God bless him and his agenda to fight for all animal rights. JSK

@user-to3lv6ey7m

How he speaks so fluently and responds any type of questions without even taking time to think? I am just impressed by his command in English language and debating skills

@EsmeraldaFrangipani

The fact that they victimize themselves when they r the one paying for slaughter is craey cognitive dissonance AND manipulation.

@jjradV

Arvind, thank you for your compassion and exceptional reasoning and responses, you are such an asset to the vegan community and a clear, no nonsense, effective voice for the Animals !!

@randomperson24774

As a brahmin, we don't even care nowadays There is so much hatred for us in India due to which it became normal to insult brahmins by making the word "brahmanical" sound like evil. Like the topic is veganism vs non veganism And the questioner started argument of casteism 🥲 What the fuck is even relation between personal choice and casteism? Normally, we don't care, but this is too much Using word "Brahmanical" in a negative way in both the argument and answer is also like casteism to Brahmins Btw, loved the shift from casteism to speciesm😂, the questioner was like- This was not even in syllabus😂😂

@seshadrisarkar3785

Long live Arvind

@Maythelightpaveapath

Mr triggered guy needs to understand that he isn't the victim here even if he assumes himself to be.. the victims r the animals that r exploited and killed not u

@madhubantipatil137

Standing ovation Arvind 😊..brilliant answer .

@M_SS1

So well explained!! It couldn't be clearer! Well done, as always, Arvind! 👏👏👏👏👏👏

@behappy8248

Now people are bringing a new reason to eat meat... "Caste"!! Lol 😂

@NiranjanBendre

That composure in the answering that inciting questions with mass applaud is awesome! 👏

@punambisht3762

It's my question to the questioner that if you are worried about unemployment of farmers related to animal farming then pls think where were you when you choose CD instead of cassettes, when you choose computer instead of physical work, car instead of cycle, fridge water instead of earthern pot, led instead of tv. My point is whenever you upgrade yourself by buying computer, car, CD, led etc then why didn't you question about unemployment of the industry of cycle, cassette, tv, etc. Hope you understand 🙏🙏🙏. When we buy upgraded version , before one have to put off down. No one think about them then why in the matter of animals😢😢. Many industries shut down when we stop buying their products to upgrade ourselves. Same will be veganism n it will be very slow process n not acceptable to everyone. This whom who have heart

@bauabh

Brilliant way of handling such dicey situations. Love the way you answer questions in such a diplomatic way simultaneously not being an apologist for the animals.

@animalsareherewithusnotforus

Arvind is the BEST💚

@religionofpeace782

I am sure he still didn't get the point at last.😂 He is just another triggered fool and proxy abuser who doesn't want to change his habits nor does he ever feel anything for the animals. I am 💯 sure about it. These people will never change.

@dipmondal8896

Good job arvind, you very well convey the message 👏👍👍