Whenever Pvt. Pyle f---s
up, I will not punish him! I will punish all of you! Yep, there we go. The DI and the drill sergeant
is going to definitely dole out punishment as a mass punishment. I'm Command Sgt. Maj.,
retired, Lamont Christian. I served about 11 years
as a drill sergeant, and then as a senior
leader in organizations that conducted basic combat training. Today we're going to be
looking at boot-camp scenes and seeing how realistic they are. Forrest: And always answer
every question wi
th, "Yes, drill sergeant." Drill sergeant: Is that clear?! Yes, drill sergeant! The standard for responding
to a drill sergeant is, "Yes, drill sergeant,"
"No, drill sergeant," and if it has to have
an affirmative response, then the whole platoon
will sound just like that. Done, drill sergeant! Jesus H. Christ! This is a new company record. The drill sergeant was so
impressed because, you know, in the early part of training, it's a challenge for somebody who perhaps has not
handled a weapon befo
re, what we would call weapons training, to be able to take that weapon
apart, put it back together, and do what you saw Forrest do there, which was that functions check. What your hope is as
a DI or drill sergeant is that everybody in there
can do it like Forrest. Shrimp and potatoes, shrimp burger. What's funny is when
they're in there with them with toothbrushes, that's
something of the past. There was times where, you know, you'd give a recruit scissors
and say, "Go cut the grass." They're f
ostering this environment of working together as a team, which you saw with the weapons training, which is what I call mindless repetition. Just do it over and over and over again until you get it right. That has the same training
effect that this used to have. The approach that the
drill sergeant had in here was very, very common
for that time period, during the Vietnam War. So that's about a nine. Pick it up! Move it! Move it! I want to see some fire here! When you look at obstacle courses, us
ually in boot camp, you'll
go through them twice. Obstacle courses are really designed to find your upper-body strength and also determine your endurance, and so it may even test
your fear of heights, fear of darkness, and then
you get to actually experience the teamwork, helping each other. You saw that a couple of times in there. And definitely that screaming and yelling. Often we call it simulating
battlefield conditions. Drill sergeant: Create a loop. This is the rabbit hole. The rabbit come
s out of his hole. What is interesting is
ropes and knot tying is no longer taught in basic training. It is in Ranger School, though. You're actually tested
in the mountain phase. As things change over time,
there's certain requirements that the leaders think that people need upon finishing basic training. This is to be your lover,
your mistress, your concubine, perhaps the only thing in
life you'll ever truly love. That's one of those things, again, that you get from TV in Hollywood where we pl
ace all of this level
of intimacy with our weapon. Now, granted, it is an
intimate relationship because you really want to be
confident with that weapon. So taking it apart, putting it together almost to the point where you
can do it blindfolded, right? Talk about it in a way
that might be sexual, that's kind of a Hollywood
thing that happens. Oh, I'm sorry, sergeant. I can't touch a gun. For that time period, being World War II, being a conscientious objector was going to definitely be a challe
nge for the leadership here. This guy particularly is Desmond Doss. He was actually a Medal
of Honor recipient, and he didn't have to
carry a weapon to do it. I would definitely say
this was a nine on realism. Drill instructor: Can't
think when I'm giving you a few love taps? How the f--- are you
going to fire your rifle when grenades are going off in your face? Unfortunately, what we wind
up running into a lot of times is drill sergeants or DIs like this one that will touch and grab by the thro
at. That was familiar in other DI movies. Touching recruits in
training is unacceptable. Always has been. Sir, I got lost on the
way to college, sir! That's exactly why, right there. The open door that I could do even more, and it turns to him slamming
the kid's head into a wall, and that's why it's unacceptable. Because where do you draw the line? Them paintball bullets, they hurt? Oh, s---! Paintball is something,
as you notice there, it was pretty painful. That guy is going to
learn a valuabl
e lesson not to put himself in a window
if he's going to engage. And so that's why paintball Simunitions, is kind of what we call it, is very, very useful in
the training environment. Drill sergeant: The sounds
that you are hearing are live rounds. You will get the fear out of you. Keep moving! Keep your head down! Yeah, that's a trainer, a sergeant, a leader's worst nightmare, is to have somebody in
training lose their life. Shooting the rounds over their head, we actually do that, and
we also
do it at night, but the conditions are totally different. The guns are raised up a whole lot higher, and it's what we call a safe surface zone. So even if you stood up
or jumped up and down, it's almost 20 feet above
the heads of the individuals. And, again, this tragedy right here, as unfortunate as it is, it does happen when those things are not adhered to. For a boot-camp movie,
it's probably about a five. Rusty bayonet, Liebgott. Now, thanks to these men
and their infractions, every man in t
he company who
had a weekend pass has lost it. This is pretty neat,
because I actually served as the command sergeant
major for this unit. For the 2nd Battalion, 506th
Parachute Infantry Regiment out of the 101st Airborne. This right here is Easy Company and their preparation for World War II. During that time period in our military, not many people were married, right? And everybody was always looking for a two-day or a three-day pass. The stuff that they're being inspected on, like this parade
-level stuff, and they're out there in combat gear, I could see where he's going with trying to instill discipline. Just, I'm sure morale is not going to be too high much longer. Platoon: Stand alone! Stand alone! Sobel: Do not help that man! Do not help that man! We ran this mountain a couple of times. Currahee Mountain. Yeah, it's no joke. What I noticed here though, you know, he was telling them to leave that guy. Not leaving a fallen comrade, that was part of the warrior ethos. And never qui
tting. So when you tie that together
in today's modern military, leaving somebody behind would be something that we wouldn't do. That would be a 10 for
running up that hill. And for World War II, it'd probably be about a eight in realism. Drill sergeant: "Yes,
drill sergeant, and "No, drill sergeant." Do I make myself clear? Recruits: Yes, drill sergeant! You get them in the barber
chair, spin them around, they had no hair. Like, that's even part of a
military cadence sometimes. The males, anywa
y, are
getting their hair cut where they cut it all the way down. Female recruits are not required. And believe it or not, it's a health and hygiene issue, right? Because you get people that
come from all walks of life, and so you don't know necessarily if they have, like, head lice or any other type of issues
underneath all the hair. Cherry: Next we got
about 100 f---ing shots. You just get shots until you
get all the way to the end and you're completely inoculated against every disease known t
o man, right? Execute. Drill sergeant: Move, goddamn
it! Move! Let's go, move! The difference that I could
see so far in this scene is they have them all
taking their clothes off in an open room or an open bay. It wouldn't be done that
way at what they call a military entrance processing
station, or the MEPS. All military members go through there, and there's no drill sergeants there. It's just a staff of military personnel, administrators, doctors, counselors, because what they're doing
is they
're determining whether or not you're fit to train. Cherry: They had us strip
down to our underwear and duckwalk the circuit of a big room. Oh, yeah, duckwalking. I remember the first time I did that. I was like, "What in the world?" They have you walk from one
side of the room to the other, and the doctor is looking
for your bone structure, your musculoskeletal development, if you're flat-footed, also
just your mobility and agility. But yeah, you definitely
wouldn't be in a room like that full
of other people. Be hard to assess. I would have to say it's
about a four, right? Because that's not necessarily how that whole indoctrination process would happen with the drill sergeants. If you survive recruit
training, you will be a weapon. You will be a minister
of death praying for war. So far this is looking pretty good. Because in the DIs in the Marine Corps, they actually have a script. They say, "You'll sit up
straight and look at me!" So while the difference in the titles, the drill i
nstructor was
tied into the Marine Corps. Drill sergeants came
into play for the Army. And the interaction in the
first part of boot camp is always going to be what
we call total control. Everywhere you look,
there's going to be some DI or drill sergeant
ensuring that the training that has been given is being reinforced. And so when you see R. Lee
Ermey walking around in the bay, he's doing exactly what a DI would do. He actually was a drill
sergeant, as a matter of fact. He served several years
during
the Vietnam War as a DI. You maggots understand that? Sir, yes, sir! Bulls---! Can't hear you! Sir, yes, sir! If you notice, the DI
is constantly yelling, and it's not because they
like yelling at individuals, it's just so they don't have to repeat the same commands over and over. So if you have a recruit
on one end of the bay, he or she is going to
hear the instructions all the way on the other end of the bay. 5-foot-9, I didn't know
they stacked s--- that high. You trying to squeeze an
inch in on me somewhere? Huh? Another thing that you
often see in these movies and TV shows is the DI
or the drill sergeant doing a lot of cursing and swearing. Cursing and swearing is not
something that is acceptable, but it does happen. For that Vietnam era,
that's pretty realistic. Now you have people who are
deciding to serve their country, and it's a different view. I was part of the committee
that created the change, what we called shock and awe, commonly called a shark attack, as opposed
to this fallacy, which was we have to break them down
in order to build them up, and focus more on the teamwork. And so that's what The 100
Yards was designed to do. Day one, here's a challenge. Pop that blister! Lamont: Mm-hmm. Part of that indoctrination
when the DI comes in is the wellness of the
trainees or the recruits, and so they have to inspect the feet, inspect the hands, and make sure that there's no open sores. What the f--- is that? What is that, Pvt. Pyle? Sir, a jelly doughnut, si
r! We've gone away from footlockers and modularized most of
the equipment in the bay. So you wouldn't necessarily
have a footlocker in the bay, and he definitely wouldn't be standing on the equipment like that. They have this term in the
Army they call "toe the line," and that's where they actually
stand next to the line so that they can do that inspection. From now on, whenever Pvt. Pyle f---s up, I will not punish him. I will punish all of you! Yep, there we go. Especially in the beginning
pha
ses of boot camp, the DI and the drill sergeant is going to definitely dole out punishment as a mass punishment, even
though one person may mess up. This opportunity for
somebody to have looked and held Pyle accountable
for that doughnut was missed, and that's what the DI is reinforcing. We'll hold each other accountable. I would have to say it was probably about a nine for that era. If we're talking in today's terms, it'd probably be about a seven in realism. We are going to win this war
becaus
e we have the best men. When they were standing in formation and the leader stopped and
kind of looked at this guy and he looks like a middle-school kid, there was actually a guy named Flaherty. This guy was 4 feet 9 inches, and they called him The Giant Killer because of all the different exploits that he did during Vietnam. And he was smaller than Rogers was, right? Nobody's got that flag in 17 years! Yo, the smallest guy in the formation wound up coming up with
the plan of success. In the bas
ic-training environment, you probably wouldn't have
that type of situation placed on a trainee or a recruit. That's some
special-missions-type unit stuff that's going on there where an assessment is being done, right? Because they want to know if
you have a special skill set. What they were actually
doing in the training would not necessarily be something that you would see in recruit training. So I'm going to give it a five. Left! Face! Yeah, that's the campaign hat or the famous drill sergeant
hat. I just happen to have mine with me, and, you know, there's
distinct headgear that is worn by the male drill sergeants in the Army, but then also by the male and
female DIs in the Marines. What's unique is, while all the branches except the Navy have some
form of a campaign hat, the Army still has a separate hat for the female drill sergeant. It's called a bush hat. A-left, a-left, right, left. ♪ There she was just
walking down the street ♪ ♪ Singing do wah diddy
diddy dum diddy do ♪ That p
art where the one
character starts singing that diddy bop, it's
interesting that most cadences, that's actually where
they come from, right? Popular tunes, R&B music, I
mean, even nursery rhymes. Even my own voice has
been tapped into a cadence in the Gatorade commercial
singing the hard work cadence. ♪ Work, work ♪ ♪ Hard work ♪ So these guys, they're just, you know, jumping in on a bandwagon,
throwing in the diddy bop in there at the same time. Razzle dazzle! Hut, two, three, four! Hut, two, t
hree, four! Yeah, that ain't happening. However, in the Army, in what we call the advanced
individual training, which, those periods of
training go from six weeks to six months, maybe even a year, drill and ceremony
competitions are usually used to continue to motivate those individuals that have the longer periods of training. But not as likely in a
basic combat training because we're focusing on
shooting, moving, communicating, and treating yourself and
others on the battlefield. I'd have to s
ay a four. Locate a wounded soldier,
represented by a dummy. You must then transport him to
the emergency field hospital. There's a lot going on there so far. When it started out, it
definitely was something that you would see in recruit training. You know, a lot of female leaders now are in positions of senior leadership, something that hadn't
occurred over many years, until the military had
started really opening up the ranks of the infantry
to our female leaders. An aggressor team will
be try
ing to stop you. They are all awaiting ranger training and can't wait to capture you. Based on what the information and the instructions they were given, it's actually an advanced
individual training. You know, medical training. They're not going to be
as complex with a mission that would go that deep,
and that was evident when I saw them in the river there, because the risk for, you
know, perhaps somebody drowning or something else with
all that equipment on, then not too many people
are going
to want to put a recruit in that type of environment. Again, the risk factors
wouldn't be something that you'd see in recruit training, but definitely something
very similar challenging-wise as far as the military's concerned. You know, Marines have a Crucible, and the Army has this
thing called The Forge. Very similar, in the final
test of all of the training that they receive during
the recruit training. And there are medical lanes
where they might have to treat a casualty or transport a
casua
lty, like you saw here, to really see if all of the training has actually reached the
point where they are confident that these individuals can leave and go to their next assignment. I have to give that a
five as far as realism. ♪ Casey Jones was a son of a b---- ♪ ♪ Casey Jones was a son of a b---- ♪ Hazing is something that,
again, has never been accepted, but it happens. This is depicting an
environment where there's still initial entry training or
initial military training, but it's Officer
Candidate School. Typically, officer candidates
are a little bit more mature, have either been in the
military for quite some time and reached enlisted ranks. There's levels of hazing that may be more acceptable
in that environment versus in the recruit training. So there was a mandate
that provided leadership across all of the branches to come up with progressive ways, if you would, in order to attack and
get in front of hazing. And so whether it was
reporting, such as in the Army, you know, No
t in My Squad,
to place accountability not just on leadership, but on each other. No, sir! Drill sergeant: DOR! I ain't gonna quit! Right, then you can forget it! You're out! Don't you do it! There's about two or three
layers of checks and balances so that you don't have that
rogue DI or rogue drill sergeant who might take something personal like it looks like in this clip. Because of the flexibility and the things that take place in the
Officer Candidate School versus what happens in recruit tr
aining for initial entry training, I would say that it's
probably about a seven. All right, Shirley, you can drop them now. Weight training has always been something that's important in the military to be able to carry your body weight. And in some cases, you
might have to lift or carry or drag somebody else. The sand buckets and them
using them for weights, a lot less expensive than
buying weights for every Marine. But then they get the same
physical exercise out of it. Drill instructor: See th
e jab? Outside? Right into the body once again. Working with the blade. They were doing combatives,
right, with the pugils, and then the drill instructor was showing them with the
knife close-quarter combat, because every Marine, every soldier, every person that joins the military is a fighter first, right? And so pugil stick training
is one of those ways that that confidence is
instilled in the individual and their ability to stand their ground. And it's also fun to look at. I would say it's ab
out a seven. My favorite drill instructor was Jack Webb in the movie "The D.I." It actually shows both sides of the drill instructor's life. What does he do in the evenings after he's away from the bay squad? If you enjoyed this video, why not click on this video above?
Comments
What I really like about this guy is he obviously has the more modern approach to how things are done - No touching, swearing etc. But he also knows and states that in different eras these things, even though maybe technically "against the rules" still happened quite often. He walks a nice line between explaining how it is supposed to be and how it actually was pretty well. Good video
When you were talking about the shortest guy in the unit, that was my stepfather in the Air Force (right before Vietnam). He was actually about two inches below the minimum height requirement. My mother found his discharge papers when they were sorting through stuff years ago, and she read over them and laughed when she saw his height listed. "You were never 5'4" tall." He said he stood up real tall when they were measuring him. My mother asked him if his heels left the floor. He said he didn't think so, but the guy measuring him gave him a wink.
My Mom is a retired Command Sergeant Major as well in the army. She did 30 years. So proud of her and love her! Thank you for your service sir!
In Basic Training I had an accident and with a head wound. I was taken to medical and got a stitch or two. I was also given a profile where I wasn't allowed to wear a hat for about 7 days to allow the wound to heal and minimize the chances of infection. It was the most painful week of my Basic. Every Drill Sergeant who saw me made a bee line right to me to chew me out for not wearing a head cover. I was constantly explaining and showing the paperwork for about 3 days until the Training Staff got the word what had happened to me.
I remember the USMC school of infantry back in 2003, one of our last graduation requirements was to complete a 20 mile ruck march (hump). We had to finish on our own power. One guy twisted his ankle around mile 10. Most of us, myself included, helped him to the "finish line". Never, not once were we told "do not help him". I think we were 10 feet from finishing when we gave the hurt guy his pack and weapon back. He staggered, limped, and even winced in pain, but he finished under his own power. We were all happy and proud when he graduated on time with the rest of us.
He was my Sr. Drill back in 1994. 3rd platoon B Co 1/19 Ft Benning, GA. There are only a few people you will meet in your life who you will never forget. Your Drill Sgts are in that category. As much as he pushed and rode us, he was always fair and was a true professional NCO in every way. I was always getting myself in trouble and I could go on and on with stories. This is the first time I've ever heard his first name (It used to be Drill Sargent).
100%, hands down, no contest, R. Lee Ermey is, and probably will always be, the best DI, Drill Instructor, Drill Sergeant to ever grace a movie screen.
I can remember my 1st few hours in the army. There was lots of paperwork and medicals. Everyone was very nice to us. As soon as we signed on and swore the oath it all changed, we were assigned our platoons, introduced to our instructors and our new life began. I was both scared and very excited, it was an interesting period of my life.
"I'm not yelling at you soldier. Drill Sergeants do not yell. We simply speak in a voice loud enough for everyone to hear. That way, we all learn from each other's mistakes!" -- Drill Sergeant Lyle, In the Army Now
As someone who has never served in any branch of the military, i appreciate the professionalism and patient explanations in this video. I also appreciate the commentary. Very informative.
22 years later and I can still remember each of my Army drill sergeant's names. They left their mark as tough, no nonsense surrogate fathers with key lessons being attention to detail, discipline, and making me realize that my mind can make my body go on far beyond what I thought it's limits were. Thanks for life lessons. "Drive on drill sergeant, drive on....hooahh!"
Prior Marine here, and I have to commend the speaker in this video as he's extremely well spoken. I personally would say that at least in the Marines...our recruit training is ALOT more chaotic than any of these movies portray (believe it or not). Mass punishment and hazing is a thing though that definitely happened. One of our DIs was removed from the military for bashing a recruits head in with a steel flashlight. I personally was choked out for not sleeping in the position of attention as I was fully asleep lol.
I had the honor and privilege of serving with CSM Christian, as both my Brigade and Post CSM. He's a great man, a fantastic leader, and an all around great mentor. Don't let the small jokes on this video fool you, he's a hilarious conversationalist, who always manages to sneak little nuggets of wisdom into a conversation between the humor. Keep up the good work, Big Smaj! Forty Rounds!
The story about how R Lee Ermey got that roll is legendary. And the fact that he could spew obscenities and tirades effortlessly was also part of his legend. I always liked him as an actor in any roll he played and imagine he was one heck of a Marine. RIP Gunny
CSM (Ret.) Lamont Christian! He was my First Sergeant when I got stationed at Schofield Barracks, Hawaii with 1st BN, 27th IN Regt. One of the greatest leaders I had the pleasure of serving with. This is absolutely great to see! Keep doing GREAT things CSM! NO FEAR!
Analysis by a real expert, with the resume to support it. Plus, no ego, only confidence.
I really liked his demeanor and explanation of the movie scenes. He's cleared up and changed how I see not only drill instructors but the military too.
My father served in Vietnam in 67 and 68 in the Iron Triangle (Phu Loi) during the Tet Offensive and said the Full Metal Jacket boot camp scene was the most realistic of all the ones he has seen in movies. One of the many things that always stuck with me was him telling me that you always knew who was about to go home because they would sleep in the bunker at night for a few weeks instead of in their bunk. When I asked why, he said while you were there you never knew if it was your last day, so you become numb to the fear and the rocket attacks, etc. but, that goes away just before you leave and the last thing anyone wanted was be a short timer and get killed right at the end of their tour. The other thing that stuck with me is him describing arriving and getting off the bus and seeing teenagers that looked like they were 40 years old and the first guy he saw was wearing a belt made of ears.
I didn't think I'd be interested in this, it just rolled into my feed. But I'm glad I stuck with it. I learned a lot. Thank you for taking the time to do this for us.
The reason Marines love the scene in "Full metal jacket" is it is so realistic and we can relate . Lee Ermey came to Iraq in 2003 to speak to Marines, he went into movie script mode and the crowd fell in step, they knew every line. It was an awesome experience. One of my best times in my 31 years in the Marine Corps was in 1993 i was on a funeral detail for a Vietnam era Marine named Gustav Hasford, he had died in Greece so his body was not present but a group of Marines he served with were there including a old crusty CO (still fit in his dress blues) . They told some hilarious stories of Gus, both in Vietnam and after the war. Gus was a writer and wrote the book that the Movie "Full metal jacket" was made from. The Marines at the funeral were all the guys from the movie , and Gus was Joker.. I went and socialized when them after the funeral and we had a very memorable time.