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Biden memory issues were a lie, probe transcripts and special counsel Robert Hur testimony show

House Republicans held a hearing with former special counsel Robert Hur on his investigation of President Biden's handling of classified documents today. The former special counsel’s claim that President Biden has memory issues was a lie, interview transcripts show. Rep. Madeleine Dean (D-PA), who participated in today's hearing as a member of the House Judiciary Committee, joins Joy Reid to discuss. » Subscribe to MSNBC: https://www.youtube.com/msnbc Follow MSNBC Show Blogs MaddowBlog: https://www.msnbc.com/maddowblog ReidOut Blog: https://www.msnbc.com/reidoutblog MSNBC delivers breaking news, in-depth analysis of politics headlines, as well as commentary and informed perspectives. Find video clips and segments from The Rachel Maddow Show, Morning Joe, The Beat with Ari Melber, Deadline: White House, The ReidOut, All In, Last Word, 11th Hour, and Alex Wagner who brings her breadth of reporting experience to MSNBC primetime. Watch “Alex Wagner Tonight” Tuesday through Friday at 9pm Eastern. Connect with MSNBC Online Visit msnbc.com: https://www.msnbc.com/ Subscribe to the MSNBC Daily Newsletter: https://link.msnbc.com/join/5ck/msnbc-daily-signup Find MSNBC on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/msnbc/ Follow MSNBC on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MSNBC Follow MSNBC on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/msnbc #Biden #RobertHur #classifieddocuments

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today on Capitol Hill we were presented with the latest embarrassing example of the constant clown show antics of one of the supposed political parties in our country his House Republicans held a hearing with former special counsel Robert Herr on his investigation of President Biden's handling of classified documents the Republican's primary goal was to create sound bites to run on right-wing media where they aimed to portray President Biden as somehow simultaneously a fragile elderly invertebra
te who can barely tie his shoes and also a deviously brilliant Master criminal Joe Biden had 8 million reasons to break the rules took classified information and shared it with the guy who was writing the book that's why he did he knew the rules but he broke them for $8 million in a book Advance all I have to do when I'm caught taking home uh classified materials to say I I'm sorry Mr Herbert but I'm getting old my memory is not so great Biden and Trump should have been treated equally they were
n't and that is the double standard well however as they usually do Republicans failed they couldn't sustain the lie because it doesn't make any sense and when all was said and done the fact that Biden was never charged came down to one thing we did not however identify evidence that Rose to the level of proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt because the evidence fell short of that standard I declined to recommend criminal charges against Mr Biden now let's not forget that a major part of this hearing
was Republicans hoping to keep alive Mr herd's gratuitous description of Biden in his report as a sympathetic well-meaning elderly man with a poor memory and diminished faculties while having nothing to do with a classified documents her made the claim in his report that during his 5H hour interview Biden was unable to remember key dates including when his son Bo died of cancer oh and you better believe the rightwing ran with that claim as further proof that is too old to be commanderin-chief ye
ah except we now have the transcript of the interview right here that shows it was a lie and even when her was called out on it today by congresswoman mine Dean he doubled down I want to give you a chance since the transcript is out uh to correct the record on an important Point uh very sadly uh your report on page 208 says that Mr Biden couldn't come up with the date the year of his son Bo Biden's death when in fact in the transcript it shows that you asked him the month and do you know what he
said Mr her he said oh God May 30th would you like to correct the record his memory was pretty firm on the month and the day Congressman I don't believe that's correct with respect to the transcript oh well Mr Herm we have the transcript too and here it is right here on page 82 and 83 of the transcript okay it seems that it was Biden who brought up his son's death on his own when discussing ing where he kept papers related to what he was working on after leaving office and then Biden says the f
ollowing okay remember in this time frame my son is either being been deployed or is dying and and so it was and by the way there were still a lot of people at the time when I got out of the Senate that were encouraging me to run in this period except the president now I'm not and I'm not it's a mean thing to say he just thought Hillary had a better shot of winning the presidency than I did and so I hadn't at this point even though I'm at Penn I hadn't walked away from the idea that I may run fo
r office again but if I ran again I'd be running for president and so what was happening though what month did Bo die oh God May 30th then it a chime in right away tossing out a year cotton 2015 unidentified male speaker 2015 Biden was it 2015 he had died unidentified male speaker it was May of 2015 Biden it was 2015 now that hardly sounds like a man of diminished faculties it sounds like the conversation and in fact when it came to Biden's memory her actually complimented him during the intervi
ew even though that never came up in the report you said to President Biden you have appear to have a photographic understanding and recall of the house did you say that to President Biden those words do do appear on page 47 of the transcript photographic is what you said is that right that word does appear on page 47 of the transcript never appeared in your report though is that correct the word photographic that does not appear in my report you see that funny how that happened right that's not
to say of course that Biden never makes a gaff when he's speaking we all know that he does but that is nothing new and in fact Democrats pointed out during the hearing that if Republicans were so concerned about a leading candidate's memory they might want to look to their own Party candidate the hypocrisy doesn't stop there Congressman Jim Jordan a man who broke the law by defying a congressional subpoena dramatically fainted outrage about the mishandling of classified documents Mr her produce
d a 345 page report but in the end it boils down to a few key facts Joe Biden kept classified information Joe Biden failed to properly secure classified information and Joe Biden shared classified information with people he wasn't supposed to Joe Biden broke the law hey Jim if you think it's a crime for Biden to have had these classified documents some of which were actually personal diaries that he kept at his home why don't you think it's a crime for Donald Trump to have classified documents s
ome classified at the highest level including on our nuclear programs stashed in one of his bathrooms at Marl Lago and unlike in Biden's case there is more than enough evidence against Trump that rises to the level of proof Beyond A Reasonable Doubt adding to the mountain of evidence is former maralago employee Brian Butler who CNN is identifying As Trump employee 5 in the special council's indictment something NBC News has not independently confirmed among the events and conversations Butler cl
aims to have told investigators about is how he unknowingly helped Trump's codefendant Walt NADA move boxes that held classified materials as well as overhearing Australian billionaire Anthony Pratt repeat classified information after meeting with Trump he finishes his meeting with the former president gets in the car and his chief of staff says how did the meeting go Pratt without saying just says he told me and it would be you know US military you know classified information of what he told th
em about Russian submarines and US submarines and that's really all I remember hearing and I went what you know I'm thinking this I'm in the car I'm like did I just hear that now as a reminder when that news broke last year about Trump's alleged disclosure of classified information to the Australian billionaire Trump denied it calling it fake news that he shared such information with the quote redhaired weirdo from Australia and as You' expect even with this latest corroboration from this former
Mar Lago employee the Republicans remain silent on Trump's alleged crimes joining me now is congresswoman Maline Dean who as you saw participated in today's hearing as a member of the House Judiciary Committee congresswoman um I I have to go back and focus in on the the what looks like a lie that President Biden could not remember the thing he talks about all the time which is the tragedy of his son's death yes talk about that just for a moment and how that felt in the room to have him really n
ot want to admit that he made that up well I have to tell you when I read the report initially when it was released and we read the report and then we read reporting on the report uh remember the report starts with this one sentence we conclude that no criminal charges are warranted in this matter yeah that really could have been the summation of the report y but he goes on to say that many many times but we said uh initially it appeared to me gratuitous that he would throw in this information o
r his own reading of the president's memory I'm not sure his expertise in that right and I found it particularly irksome and indecent that he would quiz the president on the death of his son Bo Biden from brain cancer are you kidding me a veteran uh and a public servant and so when the transcript hit today we took a look to say did he did Biden really not know yeah and of course you read it from page 82 yeah my God May the 30th yeah uh so it was so gratuitous and when they wrote If you take a lo
ok at uh special Council her report it's on page 208 that he criticizes his memory couldn't remember this this this and this couldn't remember the year of B's death when they were writing that and finalizing it wouldn't you think somebody in the room would have said wait a second do you remember what he said early on in the transcript my God May the 30th and I said what a searing I I'm a parent myself I have not suffered such a horrible loss but what a searing memory of course he remembered his
son's absolutely and I mean and look I just wrote a book you you go back and forth to the transcripts when you're trying to write based on transcripts the lucky thing is you have the transcripts he could have literally just looked I want to play a a back and forth that you had with Mr her and this was about what he said about Donald Trump take a listen unlike the evidence involving Mr Biden the allegations set forth and the indictment of Mr Trump if proven would present serious aggravating facts
keep going uh congresswoman I'm happy to have you read the words in my report well it's your report so I think it actually is more fitting that you read those most notably after being given multiple chances to return classified documents and avoid prosecution Mr Trump allegedly did the opposite voila because the the core of the Republicans argument today particularly Jim Jordan was that Donald Trump and Joe Biden President Biden and Donald Trump are being treated differently clearly not tremend
ous contrast and Mr her laid out the contrast that's why I asked him to read his he was reading his own words and he didn't want me to do that he would have preferred I did it he didn't want to use those damning words but the contrast could not be clearer we had Mr Biden who said come search my house come search my office if anything is there take it please I had no knowledge that I had any of these classified materials and from the indictment in maralago just the maralago indictment on these do
cuments do you remember the circus that was going on the criminality that was going on moving the documents hiding the documents lying to his own attorney obstructing the FBI obstructing justice e

Comments

@beatricet5682

Great work Representative Madeleine Dean.

@restorefreespeech

Just like the laptop was a lie.

@michaels11028

He didn't want to read his own statement.

@bobsanders9500

It would seem that it is Mr Hur who has memory issues. Or maybe it is integrity issues?

@avimoreno86

Lied under oath

@teresasmith4145

Perfect example of "LIES AND LIARS"😇

@lizl6514

The hypocrisy is astounding….

@ivyworth862

Robert Hur has aged 10 years since he wrote the report.

@fiddlersthree8463

How can a prosecutor decide not to charge someone, then go ahead and disparage them? That's bordering on libel, isn't it?

@artvanderlay6974

When is Jordan going to answer that Subpeona? Seriously who takes this clown seriously with anything he does?

@maryyohe3679

Mr. Jordan is pretty clear when he thinks democrats have broken the law. Too bad he isn't as clear when he or any other republican actually break the law.

@Seaneey

It's disgusting how willing these traitors are to lie & weasel out of answering questions

@Sticky-Situation

The Gentle lady from PA Ms Dean, making him read what he said about DT, killed me! 😂 💙🇺🇸👏🏼

@user-ob9qj6zb1m

Lol, poor gym jordan just admitted that trump committed a crime. Hurr even did us a favor in telling us how trump did and Biden didn't.

@paulabibb1116

Jordan is an embarrassment to all who look for honesty and character values in our government leaders.

@margaretmorris7335

As an Australian of more senior years (my mental capacity is 100% - medically confirmed) I do not understand the laxity of the US Justice System with respect to the Lies and False Claims being made by a significant number of senior Republican members of Congress. Video editing in this day and age is an art, and frankly I think if video technicians put together a 10 minute compilation of "remarks" made by the main Individuals e.g. Trump, Jordan, Gaetz, MTG, Comer, Grassley (he's elderly so he DOES discombobulate FACTS) to mention a few, you would find that most if not all say one thing one time and then an "Alternative Fact" at another. In any competent Democratic Country this would not be tolerated, particularly when dealing with Major Issues like, Espionage, Treason and Criminally Misleading Information. and possible mis-appropriation of Government funds. The proponents would be stood down pending substantive investigation by the Parliament and Judiciary. Honestly, your Congressional Members, SCOTUS and #45 are a Clown Show - except it's not funny - it's a sellout of the USA and its Citizens. Mr. Hur has clearly made himself a laughing stock. If you decide to "bend" the truth, make sure you remain consistent.

@mermaid3363

I like how Hur started looking for page 208 of the transcript the second Dean mentioned it (so he could avoid eye contact), then immediately tried to stall Dean by asking for the page number of the transcript.

@TheOlandex

I watched as Dean questioned Hur, and it was masterful. It was nothing but appropriate that Hur be forced to read his own words into the record. You could plainly see he was offended at being instructed by her, and he even tried to turn it back on her. But he failed. Dean stood her ground and the result speaks for itself.

@loriwilkes500

Do they know the truth anymore??? The action of having documents isn’t the issue it’s the reaction which is different as night and day!! Americans aren’t stupid!!!

@lynnrunningdeer7364

The hardest thing in life is for a parent having to bury their child😭.