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Despite Jordan B. Peterson's fancy suits of late, I am not calling him an aesthetic priest. No, no, no. Ascetic priest. Very different vibes. But it does help explain his whole brand of life advice. P.S. A cassock is the thing priests wear. Next video: I'm a placeholder for when the next video comes out Start of the chapter: https://youtu.be/K4cNETXVNuk ___________________ Merch! https://cass-eris-shop.fourthwall.com/ Questions? Comments? Requests?: https://twitter.com/CassErisYT Discord server (by way of linktree): https://linktr.ee/casseris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cass_eris Support the channel! Become a patron!: https://www.patreon.com/casserisYT Become a different-kind-of-patron!: https://cass-eris-shop.fourthwall.com/supporters Become a subscriber! (YouTube suggests putting the link here, even though there's the Join button up top. IDK): https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCRzzTt_HTBV_MSLZP1Re7Tw/join https://paypal.me/casseris Music: http://www.zoeblade.com/ Other link Aamon Animations, YEDOLF: https://youtu.be/LSduRWTzNQQ Timestamps 0:00:00 Abandon Ideology, for the final time 0:00:58 Intro 0:01:45 Recap of previous sections 0:09:02 Current video stuff 0:12:00 "The Path of Ressentiment" 0:21:50 The ascetic priest 0:24:14 Where is the enemy? 0:27:35 "Terrible trap" of ideology 0:32:20 "The Messianic Path" 0:30:06 This isn't political? 0:42:08 Place to skip from, potentially 0:43:29 Place to skip to 0:43:57 It's Impossible (So Don't Try) 0:48:32 Chapter ending choo choo 0:53:49 Wrap-Up of Chapter 0:56:58 Main criticism 0:59:09 Alternate advice 1:01:40 Teaser for next video 1:01:59 Credits

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we are at the conclusion of Beyond orders rule six abandoned ideology the relatively simple rule name kind of hid how much of a complicated mess this was going to be to work through but hey we learned far far more about me's writings than we knew before on this channel and we're going to take that as a net positive and that trend is going to continue in this video because I have got a spicy hot take for you Jordan burnt Peterson is one of the types of guys n was warning us about for which type o
f guy that is you'll just have to wait and see or look at the thumbnail but you know how YouTube [Music] works this video made possible thanks to the continuing support of viewers patrons and PayPal PALS like you thanks welcome welcome and a Oles in advance if this video is a bit off in ways um it's been a tricky month on the having a body front especially one that's [Music] [Music] erroring let me also inform you at the outset that the majority of this video is not going to be emotionally heavy
but there is going to be a chunk that is uh so I will warn you when we we get there that it's coming and you can also use the chapter markers to skip it when we get there there will be time stamps everything so it's not going to catch you off guard as this is finally the final part of this rule let's refresh the earlier Parts because this has been quite the process section one the wrong places Pearson says that Society should quote inculcate responsibility in people but oh no we've messed up we
've been emphasizing people's rights over their responsibilities because those are mutually exclusive boxes apparently and because we've been emphasizing the wrong things the youths are looking for meaning in the wrong places two perhaps he is only sleeping thus began the Ning of this chapter with the famous God is dead claim and Peterson asserting wrongly that n wrote this out of quote fear that theote judeo-christian values serving as a foundation of Western Civilization have been made dangero
usly subject to Casual rational criticism and that God had been quote fatally challenged this is so wrong I want to reargue the how's and wise but Fortune Smiles upon us we'll cover similar ground today so I'll wait Pearson continued by wrongly describing the two paths n foresaw as a result of the death of God nihilism or quote identification with rigid totalitarian ideology he thin Doki because he's following the 12 rules flow to add that the quote comprehensive utopian IDE ology predicated on
a few apparently self-evident axioms were going to be more dangerous than anything before it pivot to n's Uber mench where Peterson contextually missed or misrepresented things as an antidote to nihilism but oh no we can't have people inventing their own values Freud and Yung said so somewhere Peterson isn't ding to supply us with instead our values have us as indicated by our quote capacity for spontaneous revelatory experience also Peterson argues that there haven't been any Uber MCH therefore
it's impossible but that we are in the two Doom boxes Nicha foretold supposedly and then there's this weird tangent about value being an inherent part of reality despite not being a quote scientific object which spins off into the soul being quote incontrovertibly real because of how we act which then means we can find the quote true meaning of life in the Universal subjective whatever the [ __ ] that is but enough about that baffling Point let's get back to the vague Communists of unspecified
variety that all attempts have failed because the proletariat were basically bad people and the bisi were good pipping in a moment here because these idea seeds will bloom in this video this is where he set up the dichotomy between the oppressors who are actually good and the oppressed who are bad actually therefore the power hierarchy is just and good so um abandon your ideology I guess his examples here were Russia and Germany in the early part of the 20th century section three the Fatal Attra
ction of the false idol dropping that historical thread Peterson argues that the current isms are quote practically speaking quote monotheists because they are operating with an unproven belief system but remember dear viewer this doesn't make what they're doing a religion because in the Peter sonian 2 Box system religion only asks the person to do the difficult thing not everyone else he proposed how a quote ISM system comes to be basically it's an abstraction of a real problem with artificial
villain that distorts reality and the person who came up with it gets rewarded with higher status in a new hierarchy relevant to something we'll come back to in this video he gave the example of poverty as an ism then went through the many reasons in his view why someone may be poor any reasons set on further inspection seem to frame a person's impoverished State as an inevitability that's just how the lobster cracker crumbles mbako he maybe intentionally left out solutions from the isms possibl
y as an implication that the ism will never provide a solution only villains to Crusade against he brought up the difficulty in solving big problems as they are large reaching complex issues then asserts quote ideologues brush all that aside for the quote easier and more immediately gratifying ISM process he says this is a preferred game of quote incompetent and corrupt intellectuals who soon gain followers that are less capable so they bungle the ism which the founders probably roll with becaus
e they want to be a cult leader the followers eventually buy into the ism hard enough that they eventually quote criticize the idea of fact itself Peterson says Marx did an ism about economic class without providing any sort of citations for the sweeping generalization of Marx's work I had good reason to use this debate with X on Marxism as the background for that quote then he says the postmodernist swapped out money for power because the quote implementation of Marxism has been a quote disaste
r everywhere it was attempted the postmodern ideologue is like a religious fundamentalist but worse because as Peterson sees it at least the funy is constrained by God we were warned to steer clear of monotheistic ideologues but seemingly not contend that he'd made his point set up the next subsection looking into the hidden motivations of the isms section four resent Mo we spent a bit of time in the previous video going through n's resent Mo as Peterson seemed to have only gotten the citation c
orrect not the actual interpretation in Pierson's version the person at the bottom of the hierarchy of whatever hosti blames the successful tops and the system therein do note dear viewer that this sort of blame was not present in the cited portion of on the genealogy of morals or related Works supplied by the translator to help understand nichas resal Peterson went through the rental quote causal Chain of Thought which seems to be something entirely of his own creation not n the end result of t
his thought chain is the moral justification for the Hostile bottoms to attack the successful tops he claims that the ideologues will always assume the quote victim's innocence and the quote perpetrator guilt without specifying what sort of situations these people may have been in we went through a former client story that he had shared in 12 rules to give some insight and context for his view on victims Peterson argues against presuming the guilt of the quote accused again devoid of context con
tinuing that thought he argued against assuming quote group guilt with the closest thing we have for context being the quote class enemies of the USSR while analogous situations can be found in the world today I kind of doubt he would say they would count the one most sailing it to me is the genocide happening in Gaza and palestin more broadly uh seeing as how he's gotten cozy with Netanyahu so fundes are link uh next to the video there for the Palestine children's Relief Fund to try to even jus
t a little bit counterbalance the [ __ ] [ __ ] he's doing and without a doubt what's happening in Gaza isn't because of any of the isms that he listed off as being problematic so yeah that is roughly where we left off last time this time we were picking up with the path of resenta M so if you are on the resenta M concept do check out the previous video before this one uh cuz yeah we definitely spend some time making that clear you can also spend some time looking through my merch store on fourt
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o is the quick refresher of the visual cues I used to indicate where ideas are coming from this means I'm paraphrasing the book this means I'm responding to the book or integrating my thoughts with a citation all one of them that's left in this chapter along with this being the Nicha Nook and we're over here and not over there because you know yeah Pearson's got one whole citation left in him and it's sad really demonstrative of the things he's wanting to reverence versus everything he isn't we
also aren't out of the N Abyss just yet although this time it is self-imposed so that we can very thoroughly dunk on Dr Peterson with his beloved n and now it is time to watch in awe as a man projects his own two Box Mode of thinking onto the thinking of everybody else complete with dire predictions based on that assumption we're going to start this with the little field trip into N I mentioned to a different section of one of the books Peterson referenced on the genealogy of morals the third tr
etis this time instead of the first the nich knowers in the audience connected the dots in the last video for where this is going so for the N noobs like myself let me set the scene and again huge huge shout out to Hegel and cranor the academic for their help on this as discussed in the recap a key element in Peterson's version of rent to M was blame and not part of what he had quoted for N I asked the known n knowers on my Discord if this was part of rental or if it was Peterson's the answer wa
s that Pearson's definition was not matching n's and that blame wasn't a part of that but n did incorporate an element of blame elsewhere so let's get to that elsewhere bit now basically if you think of blame as pointing the restim somewhere Peterson himself does it with his advice that we're going to cover in this video and he does it in a way consistent with the let's call a character Type n described the aesthetic priest how many times am I going to say aesthetic instead of aesthetic in this
video place your bets in the comments now aesthetic broadly means someone who doesn't partake of the joys our fleshy biom machines can provide us n notes that aesthetic ideals has meant many things to many people which indicates to him that a fundamental human will is the need of a goal even if that goal is quote nothingness in classic nichan fashion he doesn't want to be misunderstood so he'll elaborate I will do my best to summarize we're going to skip to the relevant parts for this video whic
h means we're not covering what n argues the aesthetic ideal is to artists so we'll pick up with the aesthetic ideal to philosophers schopenhauer like many philosophers had a quote peculiar irritation at and ranker against sensuality every animal has an instinctual drive towards existing in conditions that allow it to achieve its quote Optimum which is more equivalent to gaining and having power than being happy so the philosophical animal quote AB bores marriage as being hitched would obstruct
their Optimum the aesthetic ideal meaning to a philosopher is the quote Optimum condition for the highest and boldest spirituality which will affirm the philosopher self and philosophy distinct from the world these philosophical aesthetic ideals lets them quote float above life rather than in Repose of the three aspects of aestheticism poverty humility and Chastity n focuses on the last specifically that the chassity of philosophers is a result of their productive energies being devoted to their
creative children their work the sensuality drive is spent on their philosophizing n argues that philosophy has always leaned into aesthetic ideals early philosophy was striving for the Forbidden because the modern importance of Truth reason and freedom were bought through quote spiritual and physical torture historical or ancient or very early philosophers had to cloak their philosophizing under quote frightful means with types being priests Sorcerers sers or other religious types this necessi
tated the aesthetic ideal philosophers have come to be known for does it have to continue to be this way I have it on good authority that in this n was arguing that philosophy needed to ditch the Priestly Garb the time had come where they could just philosophize out in the open no need for all the smoke and mirrors philosophers as aesthetic priests are dependent on the aesthetic ideals value From A Distant enough perspective all life on Earth could be understood as aesthetic aesthetic priests se
em to be a recurring person type throughout history across all demographics suggesting that this is a natural response to or part of life I'm going to sound like interpreting a tarot card here but an aesthetic life is ruled by self-contradiction and resent AAL wanting to become Master over life itself disapproval of bodily well-being Beauty and joy pleasure found in destruction of self and the Ugly parts of life quote Triumph in the ultimate Agony thee of philosophy will focus quote upon what is
felt most certainly to be the real and the actual a Triumph against reason excluding it from truth n sees aesthetic philosophy as a necessary step in development to be able to look at things from multiple perspectives objectively in the sense of putting aside quote one's pros and cons he says caution is warranted against quote pure reason quote knowledge in itself or quote objectivity as we can't separate out the perspective of the thinker or Seer or knowledge aestheticism is a paradoxical surv
ival COPE in domesticated men remember he saw the then modern European culture as having muted People's Natural Instincts drives and wills that they'd been domesticated this Taming of man results in a quote sickliness where there is tension between the will to life against quote the desire for the end B quote the aesthetic priest is the Incarnate desire to be different to be in a different place and indeed this desire at its greatest extreme its distinctive fervor and passion but precisely this
power of His desire is the chain that holds him captive so that he becomes a tool for the creation of more favorable conditions for being here and being man it is precisely this power that enables him to persuade to existence the whole herd of the ill constituted disgruntled underprivileged unfortunate and all who suffer of themselves by instinctively going before them as their Shepherd tell me that doesn't sound like Peterson in his Lobster Army him being the shepherd to his disgruntled sufferi
ng flock but n immediately follows this with quote this aesthetic priest this apparent enemy of life this denier precisely he is among the greatest conserving and yes creating forces of Life the aesthetic priest is able to provide his flock the will to keep on going despite their suffering despite his inherent life abstaining stance man is quote the sick animal because we have the capacity to think the big thoughts and fight for quote ultimate dominion and as such can also be tormented by the fu
ture but even this sickliness at its darkest anti-life points reveals reasons to keep on living n says that inspiring fear in others is fine and normal inspiring nausea or pity as the sick do is quote calamitous combining those two would result in quote the last will of man his will to nothingness nihilism here is where we get to something somewhat similar to Peterson's version of resent himal another big quote here in the swampy SI ground the worms of vengefulness and ranker swarm here the web
of the most malicious of all conspiracies is being spun constantly the conspiracy of the suffering against so well constituted and Victorious here the aspect of the Victorious is hated and what mendaciousness is employed to disguise of this hatred is hatred these failures what Noble eloquence flows from their lips how much sugary slimy humble submissiveness swims in their eyes what do they really want at least to represent Justice love wisdom superiority that is the ambition of the lowest the si
ck the sick make a forgery of virtue then monopolize it there is among them an abundance of the vengeful disguised as judges who constantly bear the word justice in their mouths like poisonous spittle always with Pur lips always ready to spit upon all who are not discontented but go their way in good spirits the species of moral [ __ ] and self- gratifi the will of the weak to represent some form of superiority their Instinct for devious paths to tyranny over the healthy or can it not be disc di
scovered Ed this will to power of the weakest this seems to be much more in line with what Peterson was doing with restim all why he chose to reference the earlier portion of on the genealogy of morals will remain a mystery to we mere mortals however it is interesting that what we're going through now does give us an interesting interpretation of what Peterson is doing with his platform it's also sadly funny that as I implied these could be used by Peterson and his reactionary friends to describ
e the progressive left but at the same time do a pretty good job painting a picture of the very same Lobster Rich reactionary right it's all a matter of perspective I suppose but the thing to not lose sight of in this Spider-Man no you situation is what's the end game of the two sides if each side got their way what would happen to women's rights lgbtq people children's education and work status and so on the resent toal men's quote Triumph of Revenge would be to quote poison the consciences of
the fortunate with their own misery so that the fortunate Good Vibes are tainted by the misery of others but that would impinge on their quote right to happiness so the sick must be kept away from the healthy improving the health of the sick Must Fall to the sick and now we are arriving at the quote meaning of the aesthetic priest last of the monster quotes we must count the aesthetic priest as the predestined savior Shepherd and advocate of the sick herd only thus can we understand his tremendo
us historical Mission dominion over the suffering is his kingdom that is where his Instinct directs him here he possesses his distinctive art his Mastery his kind of Happiness he must be sick himself he must be profoundly related to the sick how else would they understand each other but he must also be strong master of himself even more than of others with his will to power intact so as to be both trusted and feared by the Sick So as to be their support resistance prop compulsion tasm Tyrant and
God I could keep going with n's description of the aesthetic priest as it all seems terribly relevant to Peterson like need to be a quote enticing and terrifying Predator quote as a Herald and mouthpiece of more mysterious Powers determined to sew the soil with misery Discord and self-contradiction wherever he can and only too certain of his art to dominate The Suffering at all times and the hurts he caused that he can fix I trust you probably get the gist finally we come to the part that Loops
back around to why we're talking about this in the first place what the aesthetic priest does about the herds resent them all the athetic priest defends the sick herd from itself in part by redirecting their resent to all the sick needs someone to be responsible for their suffering to get an anesthetic effect and dead in their pain the aesthetic priest tells the sick that they are the ones to blame for their suffering and resent to Mo this redirection of resen himal renders the sick relatively
harmless to the healthy while promoting self-discipline and growth the last point we'll touch on here is that the aesthetic priest does fight suffering but not the cause of it Christianity is a highly effective tool in consoling the sick herd hopefully I have made the case that Peterson fits the bill for a nichan aesthetic priest he has oper ating from within the slave morality mindset using it to try to help the sick heart deal with their suffering and resent them all about the state of their l
ives by turning that resent him all back in on themselves allow me to enter into evidence exhibit a to take the path of resent toal is to risk tremendous bitterness this is in no small part a consequence of identifying the enemy without rather than within for completeness I'll note that he does give us some examples here like go check to see if there's pigs flying because holy [ __ ] right examples uh they do fall into a sort of mat lips pattern so if money power men are perceived to be the prob
lem then those who are wealthy powerful men are perceived to be the enemy although this is a spot where we the reader could have figured out the examples from the preceding context even more so had he given us examples in all the previous spots I've called for them but thank you Dr Peterson for these examples seems like he's falling into the same trap he accuses progressives of In This Very chapter in these examples he is abstracting the issues down to their most simplest non- nuanced form in so
me circles this is called selective straw Manning yeah it would absolutely be reductive to say that anyone with some fraction of power is a cause of the world suffering that's why you tend to only see that take on Spaces like twixer by people who could use some time fondling along but that isn't to say that the existing power structures and the people up the chain in them aren't at the very least culpable in many of the suffering inducing problems in the world you'll see this as we continue this
thought but it seems like he's assuming people fighting for systemic change haven't done any introspection on endogenous sources of unhappiness or suffering or to use his phrasing quote identifying the Enemy Within but that's what I'm reading from this and then there's what he probably was intending in his good old obtuse writing fashion because I've read ahead I can say that he's going to tread the well-worn path of setting your house in perfect order before you criticize a world from 12 rules
that you need to get your internal ducks in a row before you concern yourself with the worldly geese trampling your flower bed we'll cross that argument bridge when we get there I can't shake this implication that progressives are resen all outwards when they should be directing that in on themselves so instruct the aesthetic priest I feel like that either indicates he hasn't seriously engage with Progressive ideas or he's abstracting and simplifying things down to make his argument in some of
the Lefty content I engage with I've seen some thought-provoking analyses of the person's own wealth power gender Etc status that made me reflect on my own and how I interact with the world Peterson as a licensed as of recording time because people do ask clinical psychologist should know how complex we all are that we can be a member of a group and also criticize the group that we can work on the internal and external problems in parallel we're not running on a 386 process more broadly this adv
ice is reinforcing the idea that you are the problem not anything external to you just you I should mention he's going to be run with a lot of assumptions so it is indeed fortuitous that we have the computational bandwidth to keep track of it all such division of the world into the Devil Without and the saint within justifies self-righteous hatred necessitated by the morality of the ideological system itself this is a terrible trap once the source of evil has been identified it becomes the duty
of the righteous to eradicate it this is an invitation to both paranoia and persecution a world where only you and people who think like you are good is also a world where you are surrounded by enemies bent on your destruction who must be fought let's take a look at this argument premise from the previous quote the path of resent Mo means someone is only identifying the external enemy therefore self-righteous hatred against the external evil as a consequence of the ideology premise the righteous
must eradicate the identified Evil source premise feelings of with paranoia and persecution will follow conclusion you're fighting against your ideological enemies resulting in bitterness this has problems it is possible for someone on the resal path to be exclusively focused on the external sources of suffering it doesn't have to be that way but it is possible we discussed idea more thoroughly in the last video as well as later in this one so for now we'll be generous and just take it as red t
he subc conclusion assumes that resent to monting people will break the world into the devil and sa boxes he's described and that this is being driven by their ideology and that it will result in quote self-righteous hatred claims of this nature especially with a wide net he's casting demand support and not just from 12 rules or maps of meaning outside credible sources that can back up his assertions I admit I have a bias here but by and large I think that leftist people can contain or harness t
heir anger responsibly protests acting Representatives boycotts things of that nature although looking over into the far right Pearson's description may be chillingly more fitting as discussed in this PBS newsour cited on screen he just keeps on with assumption building the Doom spiral that will follow onto it that this will lead to feelings of paranoia and persecution because reasons that this will warp your world view into an US versus them mentality where you need to quote eradicate your enem
ies before they destroy you the thing with that is some minority groups are either now or could soon be in serious physical danger because of conservative Associated ideologies trans people aren't being paranoid about threats to their existence it's really clear what the flurry of laws and name lists are building towards and it isn't some Oprah is sending everybody to whatever gender affirming treatments they may want Palestinians are stuck between an oppressive regime bent on their destru ction
and a militant group ostensibly fighting for them but using them as human Shields they are literally being eradicated War Crime After War crime and prior to this they were being persecuted by the Israeli government related to that Jews around the world are at risk because of some combination of people assuming that just because somebody's Jewish that means they're also zionists and they're also very much in favor of what's happening in Gaza and/or this being an excuse to fly their anti-sm flag
more publicly to reiterate these groups among others are facing real threats because of conservative ideologies the anti-trans fear and disuss campaign anti-muslim sentiment cross with violent colonialism and old-fashioned anti-Semitism all from ideologies it is morbidly funny that Peterson has managed to describe the path of reactionary conservative ideology here which seems to have largely been shaped by Fox News as said in this Mother Jones speak Cas quote all roads lead to Fox News when trac
ing back the culture War pushing the idea that when there is an average American and two that the average American is persecuted for being white or male or having guns or whatever that it is their righteous duty to stand up to the woke mob in the name of their freedom that the left is quote bent on their destruction so fight on Brave Patriot and all of that has led me to a kind of weird place for a segment of the population it might actually be beneficial for them to follow Dr P's advice here do
n't worry about the enemies being sold to you and instead work on yourself bucko too bad Peterson's not one to follow his own advice with the self-righteous many fronted War he's fighting on twixer against his many perceived evil enemies e quote much safer morally alternative that pearon proposes is basically the same as from 12 rules rule 6 set your house in perfect order before you criticize the world with all of the purple Pros that you would expect from him so we're going to jump in after he
's gotten the style Madness up to full speed it is probable that your own imperfections are evident and plentiful and could profitably be addressed as step one in your redeemer's quest to improve the world to take the world's sins onto your yourself to assume responsibility for the fact that these things have not been set right in your own life and elsewhere is part of the messic path part of the imitation of the hero in the most profound of Senses again with this messic hero archetypal [ __ ] n
o small acts in the Peterson Universe it really is just more of the aesthetic priest sermon even dipping into the Christian anesthetic by saying the reader could take up a quote redeemer's Quest to improve the world somehow through autor resent by assuming that you are the problem I feel like this is a pretty solid representation for two of my complaints with his portrayal of this book one this is not a standalone work that last paragraph would practically be a word salad if you weren't familiar
with his previous books not that the meaning is much enhanced with that knowledge but at least I understand the bigger point he's trying to make two in addition to being the book form of video game downloadable content it's such a retread of 12 rules time and time again we're seeing the same arguments and ideas it's like Wendy's chili yesterday's unsold hamburger meat reheated in a new form except chili is a lot easier to swallow ma'am this isn't a Wendy's why are we getting such repetition I i
magine the version that would appease aam the most is that Peterson is fully on that Griff D so why I put in more effort than is needed people eat that [ __ ] up and maybe we already know he's seeing how much of the laborious and timeconsuming process of doing research he can offload onto the least woke language machine learning model he can find but something I keep coming back to is a comment from the documentary on him that in his wife's prophetic dreams he is the thing that will save us from
ourselves she dreamed it was 5 minutes to night the end of the world and Jordan is there to save us from that and from the end of that documentary that he realized that the best story will win I hope that what I'm doing is telling the best story and I think if it doesn't win then something that is really not good wins instead and that's I'm not comfortable with that as an alternative outcome now I don't know what's going on inside that Lobster bundle of nerves he's got and the closest I've ever
been to him was the nose bled section at one of his speaking events so all of this is just speculation from someone who has closely read his advice books part of me wonders if he's repeating himself like this because I think we can all agree on this the world is even more [ __ ] than when 12 rules for life came out even from when this book was published so obviously his advice didn't get us further from metaphorical midnight than we had been sure Surly that can't be because his advice book wasn
't the best story winning its position at the top of the story hierarchy no no no it's because people didn't read it didn't understand it and so the way to fix that problem is to say it again but in a slightly different way which is a pretty solid strategy in communication and I think it's probably at least part of why I was solidly reviewed as a lecturer if I was explaining a concept and I looked out to the class and saw just a sea of confused or blank faces I knew I hadn't explained it well so
instead of just repeating myself I would try to find a different approach maybe an analogy a weird different way to define it just anything to say it in a slightly different way that hopefully people would understand and in Peterson's case if this framing is true in the deepest parts of his being with a capital B there is so much more at stake than just a bunch of students not understanding what the medulla ablang is it could be the end of the world granted the world he's trying to save is from
the good old days the nostalgic never was of his youth when men were men because they were culturally and socially forced into the men box whether they liked it or not progress is essentially killing that world and instead of seeing the betterment for so many groups and people he seems to only see the changes that are being asked of him as a true anti- ideology ideologue he has to put his foot down on the profitable daily wire platform and do what he can to stop the oncoming catastrophe not the
environmental one or the frighteningly expanding Financial one no no the one coming from the woke mind virus that's infected we progressives yeah with that tangent done let's get back to this quote working the same messaging as 12 rules that we are deeply flawed so should focus our efforts in improving ourselves first this will then trickle up into improving the world because Christ so speaketh the aesthetic priest but don't get twisted now just because we're talking about needing to abandon ou
r ideology with ideology searly defined by Michael freden as involving the quote ideas beliefs and attitudes consciously or unconsciously held which reflects or shapes understandings or misconceptions of the social and political world doesn't mean we're talking about politics silly this needing to be the archetypal Redeemer and take the world sins onto Yourself by looking to yourself or the eras of the world is a psychological or spiritual rather than a sociological or political issue pretty wel
l move there bucko telling us to abandon a thing then going on to redefine the meaning of that thing thereby losing sight of the actual point of the thing it's like five to dimensional twister cuz it sure is [ __ ] chess but maybe he will save it with his rationale for being the redefiner once again uh nope no he won't the redefiner decided to talk about good and bad fiction writers skip aesthetic priest says what it is much more psychologically appropriate and much less dangerous socially to as
sume that you are the enemy that it is your weaknesses and insufficiencies that are damaging world then to assume Saint likee goodness on the part of you and your party and to pursue the enemy you will then be inclined to see everywhere I yes that social danger of not assuming you're the problem in everything definitely quote much more psychologically appropriate yeah this is building onto his idea of the creative conservative shtick from rule one of this book not before you can become the creat
ive conservative capable of cautiously transforming the world you need to gratefully take your place at the bottom of the hierarchy even for environmental concerns because not doing that will negatively impact your mental health because reasons I definitely say it's for the best that he's not seeing clients anymore all of this advice while very aesthetic doesn't seem like it would help most of the people in therapy like in what universe is it helpful to tell people to assume that they are their
own enemy worse that it's their quote weaknesses and insufficient deficiencies that are damaging the world that's such a basic depression brain move slips right into the negative ideation of the world being better off without you because according to him you are damaging the world now depression havers imagine your therapist telling you this I just I [ __ ] can't with him but of course he's framing this is for the greater good it's all about the greater good the greater good because it's better
than assuming quote saint-like goodness which will result in seeing and quote pursuing the enemy you will then be inclined to see everywhere of course those are the only two possibilities either we assume ourselves to be Saints or Sinners there is no room for anything in between not in this secular society but the case could be made that he isn't intending this advice to be taken in a sort of therapeutic manner even with that psychologically appropriate comment however these IDE are appearing in
a life advised self-help book written by a clinical psychologist that would seem to suggest that the target audience are people looking to DIY themselves some therapy-like effects no however however in keeping with that weird realization earlier this advice may be best suited to the conspiracy-minded particularly those in Peterson's sincere uncritical readership to say it in a less blackpilled way it would probably benefit them to disconnect from social media for a bit stop worrying about the e
nemies everywhere and spend some time getting okay with themselves and this is where that content advisory kicks in in that regard this is echoing rule 6 from 12 rules with the portions talking about the Coline Shooters and Peterson's friend who died by Suicide these people saw enemies everywhere and it led to the suffering and death of far too many however their perceived enemies as described by Peterson were not the same in Peterson's description the school shooter saw everyone as an enemy imp
lying that perhaps if they had been able to be broken of that idea things would have turned out differently but that seems very different from his description of his deceased friend really it seems more like Chris was embodying Peterson's advice here from what's written it seems like he saw himself as a very guilty member of the patriarchy the North American colonizers and of quote despoiling the the planet as such he saw it his ethical duty to fix that Peterson lumping Chris in with the mass mu
rderers here seems to indicate that he isn't fully understanding or perhaps willfully muddying the difference between someone who would feel suicide to be the ethical choice for the impact they're having on the world versus those who would murder others which brings us back to the current advice and him apparently missing that his friend Chris was feeling like it was his quote weaknesses and insufficiency es that were damaging the world but this advice is fully in line with an aesthetic priest i
f this advice is successful and their resent toal is pushed back on themselves they will be less of a danger to others thus preserving the safety of the disgruntled and suffering flock while also keeping them away from the non-g gruntled who have no use for the aesthetic priest's words it would be interesting to know what Peterson would make a being called an aesthetic priest but come on if the cassic fit [Music] it is impossible to fight patriarchy reduce oppression promote equality transform c
apitalism save the environment eliminate competitiveness reduce government or to run every organization like a business such concepts are simply too low resolution I may have oversold the black pness of his advice in that last chapter title but not by much he's saying these sorts of things are impossible because they're not at a level of detail a person can deal with which yeah kind of true one Plucky Dolly Parton character probably isn't going to be able to completely restructure and reorient a
company so that it'll stop being a patriarchal oppressive good old capitalism Boys Club probably having realistic expectations for the impact your work can make is important especially in preserving your mental health while trying to do so but that isn't where Peterson's going with this surprise for completeness and transparency we are skipping over where his reference to a Monty Python skit comes up it's a distracting aside that further irritates by proving he'll provide citations for the most
inane [ __ ] so we're moving on similarly sophisticated large-scale processes and systems do not exist in a manner sufficiently real to render their comprehensive unitary transformation possible the idea that they do is the product of 20th century Cults Cults Cults the beliefs of these Cults are simultaneously naive and narcissistic and the activism they promote is the resentful and lazy person's substitute for actual accomplishment the single axium of the ideologically possessed are Gods serve
d blindly by their prizers okay so these big things aren't quote sufficiently real but souls are ain't that [ __ ] great that CES in sentence though if you strip away the overly fancy words to get to the meat he's basically saying that all of those things he previously listed cannot be changed the idea that they can be is just propaganda from the progressive Cults what this actually is to me at least is dorismar me a bit how freely he'll slap the cult label onto things but it is a quick and dirt
y way to get people repulsed about the isms they may be on the fence about as well as to discredit the movements or groups themselves same with narcissism it's like his go-to insult for things on twixer calling the people involved narcissists particularly when it comes to the care of trans and nonbinary Andor gender questioning youth the thing is in doing so he's diluting the meaning and value of that word it's not even reevaluating it into a different definition it's just shifting it into the w
ater down lay person usage of the word and given enough time of doing that the clinical weight and significance will be lost why is activism what he says it is because he says so this whole quote it's like citation I said so so it's true it's at least informative to see that he seems to think activism is a quote resentful and lazy person substitute for actual achievement there's so many ways to interpret that statement is he intending to imply that activism never accomplishes anything or that th
e people involved only get into activism because they're too quote resentful and lazy to do things that would net them quote actual achievements whatever those are in this framework but hey good job Peterson linking this back to what you wrote earlier so it's not disconnected this time with the ideological possession of the ism prizers tying into the Christian theming of this chapter this is most easily seen with his setup of this axiomatic God where he argues the isms have people taking it on f
aith rather than critical thought the current quote is basically a book end for that this can also be seen in the section titles themselves as we'll discuss at the end of the video for the more secular these sorts of comments are probably not worth further reflection but for the more hardcore biblically inclined readers I could see the phrasing here turning them away from the isms out of fear don't want god with a capital G to think you're straying and Dr Peterson said these are Gods so best to
play it safe Peterson's mixing things up for us instead of The Descent through styl mad turbulence into the chapter ending this time we are taking a trip on the should train to the tur conclusion choo choo like good however ideology is dead the bloody excesses of the 20th century killed it we should let it go and begin to address and consider smaller more precisely defined problems we should conceptualize them at the scale at which we might begin to solve them not by blaming others but by trying
to address them personally while simultaneously taking responsibility for the outcome okay so he wants us to take on more quote precisely defined problems which according to him should be in a scale that we can personally solve let's go back to his reasons for why people may be poor so we can see how well this perspective shift might be able to help us let's assume a hypothetical person who wants to help address this issue they're able to pay for their modest needs so rent food things like that
but aren't able to put anything away into savings or in today's [ __ ] up Parliament they're doing okayish cuz at least they aren't taking on debt quote lack of money is the obvious cause one that Peterson smacks down is hypothetically obvious so we'll move down the list quote lack of Education how is our hypothetical person going to help with that maybe if they have some spare time and emotional resources they could volunteer at the local library or at the school's library or something to help
tutor kids or otherwise enrich their educational experiences and while I'm sure that would be greatly appreciated by the kids it's not really helping change the system that's causing the problem it's just helping that select group of kids quote broken families uh yeah not sure what our hypothetical IC person is supposed to do about that same for most of these quote crime ridden neighborhoods alcoholism drug abuse criminality and Corruption mental illness lack of a life plan and so on what is th
e average person supposed to do in Peterson's advice well I'd assume he tell the hypothetical person to just focus on their financial situation and get in a good place and then when they get up to the war and Buffet levels of financial stability then they can start working working on the larger scale change by themselves it seems like it's inconceivable to him that sometimes these problems are these big unwieldy things because that is what they are as discussed in this Pew research report by Hor
owitz and others there's all sorts of reasons behind the growing Financial inequality in the US it's not something that the average person is going to be able to address personally with personal responsibility for the outcome thinking this could possibly work is bordering on to the absolute shade he's throwing at blaming others here going back to the financial situation there absolutely are people to blame the assorted fat cats getting rich off the labor of their Workforce among others the 99% h
ave every [ __ ] right to blame the 1% for the [ __ ] they're actually responsible for if not profiting from and the 1% should consider themselves lucky if complaining is the worst that happens to them this aesthetic Priestly ad I will result in the status quo remaining largely intact especially at Global scales which may be great for someone like Peterson but isn't for oh I don't know most everyone else have some humility clean up your bedroom take care of your family follow your conscience str
aighten up your life find something productive and interesting to do and commit to it when you can do all that find a bigger problem and try to solve that if you dare if that works too move on to even more ambitious projects and as a necessary beginning to that process abandon ideology it's almost like he got to the end of the paragraph here and realized oh whoopsy doodle none of that was about what this chapter is supposed to be about just stick and abandon ideology on there no one will be the
wiser I wiser he tells people things like follow your conscience live your life authentically but then is dumbfounded infuriated even when lgbtq folks do exactly that especially if they're steps involved social to Medical for them to get to a place where they can be happy in their own skin and life same goes for women who are straying from his prescribed and circumscribed path but that'll be much more obvious when we get to the chapter on marriage it's a real hoot now it may seem like some of th
ese items feel like they're coming out of nowhere and yeah they kind of are but they're also setting up the next chapter in the laziest way possible stick around to the end to see what's next and L we have been thoroughly instructed to abandon Ur ideology they esteemed Dr Peterson will not be taking questions at this time well that chapter was a lot of did did it accomplish what Peterson said it would in the Overture we were told this rule would quote describe the danger of attributing the cause
of complex individual and social problems to single variables such as sex class or power so i' say not really in L of rehashing this chapter to show all the places it hasn't done this we'll skip to the chase aside from the Historical Notes the biggest danger he wrote about was quote tremendous bitterness and quote paranoia and persecution if you are susceptible to the two box thinking Peters intense towards using there's also maybe the danger of the Hostile bottoms attacking the successful tops
it would have been more straightforward had Peterson actually described more specific consequences of adhering to an ideology because that's what he's actually talking about with this quote attributing the cause of blah blah blah to quote single variables so he's also reevaluating what ideology means in this chapter because that's always helpful to mix in to your life advice what consequences does he predict for feminists to pick one of the variables assuming that's even what he means by sex wh
at would happen as a result of that ideology and perhaps you didn't do this here in this chapter because then there would be testable predictions that could fail to materialize it's much more emotionally compelling to allude to bad things happening then spelling out what the bad things could be and it failing to materialize plus you know thinking of sex as a simple variable or useful variable in the sort of context he's implying it to be is just laughably simplistic as it is an interesting aspec
t to this chapter was the relatively subtle for him integration of Christianity aside from the out of left field Redeemer Quest we're supposed to embark on the Christian staff was mostly present in the section titles the wrong places in the context of the youths turning to the isms for meing with where they should be turning to left as an exercise for the reader perhaps he is only sleeping for the nian death of goding that no no no God isn't dead no that's not dead it's resting resting yeah rest
ing I'm when talking about the modern isms we get the Fatal Attraction of the false idol clearly implying what he said in text the ideolog gets are worshiping a false god by believing or following theism the final section resent a all breaks his chain maybe peerson couldn't think of a witty way to work in the Jesus resurrection act so just opted to be straightforward for once in his bloody life if you compare this to the most similar chapter in 12 rules so also rule six set your house in perfect
order before you criticize the world Peterson's much more restrained here in that chapter we got hit with f Canan Abel Christ and the Smite happy god of the Christian Old Testament in addition to n and soul shiten not entirely sure what to make of all of that just that I found it an interesting change all in all I have the same criticism as I did when this showed up in 12 rules if somebody wholeheartedly follows this advice large scale change isn't going to happen because everybody's instructed
to just focus on the small scale problems relevant to their life given Pearson's conservative meant this makes sense it's right there in the name conserve the side of the political equation that impedes change I do appreciate the need for a balance between impeding and facilitating change don't get me wrong all gas no breaks is probably not a good way to run a country probably that said all breaks no gas means the country car isn't going to go anywhere some progress must happen otherwise we're
going to be stuck on the international freeway and this metaphor has kind of got away from me my problem with this advice is it disempowers people from having an active role or voice in the big issues it just slaps blinders on them tells them to just focus on their little problems and don't worry their pretty little heads about the big things it'll be taken care of and that just removes them from having any say in what's going on in those big issues however as I alluded to earlier some segments
of the population are being weaponized in the culture War for lack of a better term they're being sold so many lies about assorted marginalized groups whipped into a frenzy and then turned loose on the world the double edge sword of everyone being able to research anything and everything is that dis and misinformation can spread like wildfire and this can be abused by Bad actors with platforms the rallying Cry of do your own research has led to far too many people coming to distrust the actual e
xperts instead believing the sweeter tasting lie fed to them by other misguided people at best people with destructive agendas at worst what do we do about this how do we try to shove the horrors back in the Box despite the utter Simplicity of Peterson's abandoned ideology I think it's safe to say it's not that simple divorcing people from their ideologies is a near impossible task my advice instead of the blanket abandon ideology would be to periodically do a sort of mental virus and malware sc
an maybe some nasty perspective or idea has Trojan horsed its way into your thoughts like edgy or dark memes or humor can sometimes be the little crack that starts letting water through the cognitive Dam if you find yourself saying something that seems out of character don't ignore that having that feeling of did that just come out of my mouth can be a really important indicator that something's up and the same is definitely true if your trusted friends or family have that reaction to something
you said this could be reflecting you taking the early steps down a path you might not have otherwise considered walking ask yourself is this something I want to continue do I really want to end up at that end state of this path if it isn't think about where you picked up those things it might be time to stop following some people on social media or at the very least balancing out their perspectives with contradicting ones and also there's probably not a huge conspiracy of the World Health Organ
ization the different medical organizations about various issues like when you start dipping into the conspiracy theories in that nature and you're distrusting the experts in those fields that's a red flag some people are probably fine being radicalized into different movements but I have to believe that not everybody is or at least not the person they were at the start of the process like most people and I have to believe this is true for most people so most people probably don't start out bein
g okay with or actively wanting a segment of the population euphemistically removed it's a gradual process that can start from something simple like being in a vulnerable moment and having somebody from that ideological radicalizing group notice you having a friendly interaction with them it can be that simple at the start if you are experiencing that disorienting sense of is this really who I am give yourself time time to process through those thoughts fully if your new friends are pressuring y
ou or rushing you through thinking about that that's a red flag do not let that be ignored or dismissed really think through this and on that cheery note let's see what the next rule has in store for us work as hard as you possibly can on at least one thing and see what happens I know that's meant to be an invitation but I can't help read it like a threat until next time [Music] [Music] bye [Music] [Applause] a [Applause]

Comments

@charlespentrose7834

The more I learn about Jorp the more the idea of him practising psychiatry worries me.

@tjbarke6086

"Blame yourself to boost your mental health?" I do that all the time. Does not help the mental health at all.

@Buzzcook

"My ideology is the only good ideology". Thanks Jordan that clears that up.

@thylacoleonkennedy7

14:25 Gibbons, which are sexually monomorphic and pair bond for life: Are we a joke to you?

@spantigre3190

I don't know how you have the energy for this. I cannot take the man seriously anymore.

@aralornwolf3140

Rule 6 (18) could be something valuable... if Peterson cautioned people away from Ideologies which promoted poor mental health, instead of pushing his own ideology onto the readers. He should be encouraging his readers towards ideologies which promote the reader to care for themselves, their families, committing to hobbies, while also trying to improve the world they live in. Of course, if he did that, then he wouldn't be Lobster Daddy we all know and [hate]. Shrugs This is why I wrote, "To Peterson, anyone who demands to be treated with respect, who he refuses to treat with respect, is a narcissist... because he doesn't understand psychology." He simply doesn't understand mental illness. He refuses to understand.

@HanaShimeji

They way he uses christian religion and motifs to explain the way everyone acts like it's an universal and inescapable truth is... weird in this day and age. Feels more like preaching than anything else

@dreamshade

52:40 There's so much to read into this section. • If you are poor, you have no right to organize, no right to demand change, no right to even consider society beyond your own personal issues. • Considering the larger world and the changes necessary can only be accomplished when your personal problems are largely solved. • Therefore, philosophy should be the platform of people who have solved their own problems. • Therefore, the best philosophers were people who had solved their own problems (such as Nietzsche, who some progressives are trying to throw in the trash, but you can't just throw away Nietzsche!) • Therefore, Peterson himself, as a best-selling philosopher who has changed the lives of thousands of men, has solved all of his own problems???

@mattie1478

I kind of understand why it might be appealing to think that you yourself is the only problem, as it increases your subjective feeling of agency/locus of control and makes you feel like you can get better on your own. Unfortunately long term it's a recipe for learned helplessness and depression. What's missing from these books again and again is advice to build community with other people rather than fixating on making yourself better

@alexrempel12390

I don't like commenting on appearances, especially femmes, but I wanted to say: I had the thought "oh their hair looks really nice!!" before reading your disclaimer. You look lovely and I love the colour, too! Hope you and your body can get along in the future. <3

@ms.aelanwyr.ilaicos

the complete lack of reflection on full display by Jelly B Peanutson is truly astounding

@joeyrufo

48:06 OMG! JBP is talking about himself here! The lack of self awareness is killing me!

@salmadys

Where can I find a hostile bottom? 🥵

@BigLeafyTree

New Cass Eris less goooo

@nupurdeshpande2889

That eye makeup be poppin!

@ryanhollist3950

I think there is worth to analyzing yourself to see where you are the problem rather than others. At the same time, I have personally been abused because everyone else around me refused to see how the system was set up and how it was inherently harmful to those inside it. It's so often the experience in religion: they make you think you are the problem, then turn around and sell you the "cure" to the "disease" they create.

@feistygheisty1980

When Jordan says "Actual Achievement" he obviously means achievements legitimized by a certificate or a monetary value. Just another reason Jordan was likely an awful therapist.

@joeyrufo

3:12 Marx would point out the ability of the human species as a whole to develop its own values and carry them out! He would point out that we can achieve our highest individual aspirations through achieving our highest "collective" aspirations!

@attentivechair3248

So happy you're back!!!❤

@CatrinaDaimonLee

the dude sounds like singapore. i m in singapore. it is a kind of hell here.