>> FROM>> THE HEART OF WHERE
INNOVATION, MONEY, AND POWER COLLIDE, THIS IS BLOOMBERG
TECHNOLOGY WITH CAROLINE HYDE AND ED LUDLOW. ED:
I'M ED LUDLOW IN SAN FRANCISCO. CAROLINE HYDE IS OFF.
COMING UP, FACING BIGGER FINES. THE EUROPEAN UNION OPENS
INVESTIGATIONS INTO APPLE, GOOGLE, AND META IN THE FIRST
PROBES UNDER THE DIGITAL MARKETS ACT.
WE GO LIVE TO BRUSSELS. WE WILL TAKE A DEEP DIVE INTO
THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT LAWSUIT AGAINST APPLE.
THE CASE IS MISSING AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS MORE
PRESSING
CONCERNS. AND LUCID GETTING A CASH
INGESTION -- INJECTION FROM ITS BIGGEST INVESTOR.
WE WILL DISCUSS THAT AND MORE. LET'S LOOK AT LUCID SHARES, NOW
UP 8%. THEY HAD BEEN AS HIGH AS AROUND
20% FOLLOWING THE MARKET OPEN. THIS IS A PRIVATE PLACEMENT OF
CONVERTIBLE STOCK. IT TAKES THE SAUDI PIF AND
MOVES IT TO $6.5 BILLION ALL TOLD.
A LOT MORE TO DISCUSS ON THAT LATER. THESE ARE THE MEGA CAP TECHNOLOGY SHARES THAT WE ARE
WATCHING THIS MONDAY, ALL MOVING TO THE DOWNSIDE, APPLE
DOWN A PERCENTAGE POINT.
ALPHABET DOWN MORE THAN A
PERCENTAGE POINT. META DOWN .7%. WE HAVE AN E.U.
PROBE OF EACH OF THOSE COMPANIES UNDER THE DIGITAL
MARKETS ACT. >> THESE ARE SERIOUS CASES THAT
WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE WITH A DISCUSSION -- SERIOUS CASES.
HAD WE BEEN ABLE TO SOLVE THAT WITH THE DISCUSSION, IT WOULD
HAVE BEEN DONE BY NOW. IF WE FIND COMPLIANCE SOLUTIONS
IF THEY PERSIST, CONSUMERS WILL NOT HAVE THE CHOICE THAT THEY
WERE PROMISED BY THE DIGITAL MARKETS ACT. ED:
LET'S GO TO BRUSSELS. OUTLINE THE BASICS
OF THESE
PROBES UNDER THE DIGITAL MARKETS ACT AND HOW THEY RELATE
TO U.S. TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES. >> GOOD AFTERNOON FROM BRUSSELS.
WE ARE BACK HERE AGAIN. THE E.U.
FACING UP TO THE DOMINANCE OF BIG TECH.
THE EUROPEAN COMMISSION HAS OPENED FIVE INVESTIGATIONS
UNDER ITS NEW DIGITAL MARKETS ACT RULES TARGETING APPLE,
GOOGLE HIM AND META. HOW SERIOUS IS THIS?
IT IS A STATEMENT OF INTENT FROM BRUSSELS THAT WANTS TO
ENFORCE AS ROBUSTLY AS POSSIBLE THESE NEW DIGITAL COMPETITION
RULES, WHICH ONLY TOOK HOL
D 18 DAYS AGO ON MARCH 7. ED:
WE PLAYED THAT CLIP. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IN THE
PRESS CONFERENCE WAS IS THIS A FRIEND RON?
IS THIS YOU MOVING QUICKLY? SHE SAID NO.
WE ARE MOVING IN A TIMELY FASHION. WE ARE SHOWING POTENTIAL RISKS
TO THESE TECHNOLOGY COMPANIES. EXPLAIN WHAT FINES THESE TECH
COMPANIES COULD FACE. >> FROM TODAY, THE COMMISSION
WILL AIM TO CONCLUDE THESE INVESTIGATIONS INTO APPLE,
GOOGLE, AND META WITHIN ABOUT 12 MONTHS.
AT THE END OF THOSE 12 MONTHS, IT WILL ADOPT A DECISION.
WITH T
HAT POWER, IT HAS THE CAPACITY TO FINE THESE
COMPANIES UP TO 10% FOR THOSE TYPES OF BREACHES AND ALSO HAS
ADDITIONAL POWERS IN THE CASE OF REPEATED INFRINGEMENTS TO
FIND FIRMS UP TO 20% OF THEIR GLOBAL ANNUAL REVENUE OR EVEN
MANDATE THE BREAKUP OF THESE COMPANIES, SO IT IS A SERIOUS
MATTER. WE ARE NOT AT THAT STAGE YET.
THERE IS A 12 MONTH PERIOD TO GO THROUGH, BUT THAT KICKS OFF
TODAY. ED: FOR SIZE AND SCOPE, APPLE
REVENUE IN 2023 WAS $383 BILLION AND 20% OF THAT IS
HEFTY. THANK YOU. THE E.U.
P
ROBE IS NOT THE ONLY ANTITRUST STORY OUT OF APPLE.
THE DOJ FILED A SUIT ACCUSING APPLE OF VIOLATING ANTITRUST
LAWS AND SUPPRESSING COMPETITION AND THE CULMINATION
OF A FIVE-YEAR PROBE INTO THE COMPANY.
I WANT TO SPEAK TO THE LEGAL DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE
AND GO DEEPER ON THIS. THIS WAS A BIG STORY FROM A
MARKETS PERSPECTIVE. IT IS RARE A STOCK SHOWS
PRESSURE OF AN ANTITRUST ACTION. WHAT IS YOUR ASSESSMENT OF HOW
STRONG THE DOJ IS AGAINST APPLE? >> IT IS VERY STRONG.
THEY LISTED ABOUT FIVE B
EHAVIORS NOT INTENDED TO
GATHER UP THE COMPLAINTS PEOPLE HAVE ABOUT APPLE BUT THE
BEHAVIORS THEY THINK PROBABLY VIOLATE THE LAW. SOWS INCLUDE -- ED:
PLEASE CONTINUE. ED: THOSE CONTINUE USING THE APP
STORE MONOPOLY TO PREVENT CATEGORIES FROM COMPETING,
BLOCKING BANKS FROM ACCESSING THE NFC CHIP AND OTHER MATTERS
AND THOSE ARE EXCLUSIONARY BEHAVIORS WHERE COMPANIES THAT
HAVE DOMINANT MARKET POWER ARE USUALLY PREVENTED FROM DOING
THINGS THAT BLOCK OUT COMPETITORS.
THE DOJ PUT FORWARD A COMPELLING N
ARRATIVE SHOWING
HOW APPLE HAS DONE THAT. ED:
THE APPLE ARGUMENT IS THAT THE CONSUMER DOES HAVE CHOICE, THAT
THEY ARE THE MAKER OF A CREATIVE MARKET. DO YOU THINK THAT COMPETITIVE
MARKET, AND THAT THEY OFFER DEVELOPERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A LIVING, DOES THAT GIVE
THEM ANY CHANCE OF WARDING OFF THIS FIGHT FROM THE DOJ? >> I DO NOT THINK SO.
IF YOU ARE A DEVELOPER, YOU HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO DEVELOP
FOR BOTH. I DOUBT THE MAJORITY OF
CUSTOMERS BUY IPHONES BECAUSE OF THESE EXCLUSIVE PRACTICES.
AP
PLE MAKES EXCELLENT PRODUCTS. THE QUESTION IS NOT WHETHER
APPLE MAKES GOOD PRODUCTS BUT WEATHER CAN USE PRODUCTS TO
CONTROL OTHER MARKETS LIKE PAYMENT APPS. ED:
YOU WORK AT PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE. THE GOALS TO MAKE SURE EACH
PART OF THE TECHNOLOGY AND STAKEHOLDERS HAVE A SAY IN THE
FUTURE. WHAT -- ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
GETS TO BEAT IT IS WHO IS IT SERVING? WHO IS IT PROTECTING?
THE ARGUMENT FROM THE DOJ IS IT IS PROTECTING THE CONSUMER,
MAKING SURE IT ENDS IN A POLICY CHANGE AT APPLE THAT WOULD
ALLOW
THE CONSUMER TO HAVE GREATER CHOICE AMOUNT DOES THAT
EVER HAPPEN? -- CHOICE, BUT DOES THAT EVER
HAPPEN? >> IT DOES FREQUENTLY WITH
ANTITRUST CASES. THEY TAKE A LONG TIME TO
LITIGATE. ANTITRUST IS NOT THE ONLY TOOL
POLICYMAKERS HAVE TO PROTECT CONSUMERS.
APPLE -- DOJ IS NOT SUING APPLE FOR HAVING PRODUCTS THERE TOO
GOOD OR TOO INTEGRATED. IT IS SUING APPLE FROM BLOCKING
COMPETITORS FROM DOING THE SAME ON THE PLATFORM, WHICH IS SO
DOMINANT IF YOU ARE A COMPETITOR OR DEVELOPER YOU
HAVE NO CHOICE B
UT TO DEVELOP FOR THE IPHONE. ED: YOU MENTIONED IT IS NOT THE
ONLY TOOL. OFTEN TALK ABOUT REGULATING
THROUGH THE COURTS, BUT THERE IS LAWMAKING ON CAPITOL HILL.
IS THERE AN AVENUE FOR APPLE TO REACH SOME KIND OF SETTLEMENT
WITH THE DOJ WHERE THEY COULD WORK THIS OUT BEHIND CLOSED
DOORS? >> I CANNOT PREDICT WHETHER
THERE WOULD BE A SETTLEMENT. APPLE WILL SET FORTH ITS SIDE
OF THE STORY. LITIGATION OFTEN TAKES YEARS.
CONGRESS IS NOT SITTING ON ITS HANDS AND OTHER REGULATORS ARE
NOT SITTING ON THEI
R HANDS. CONGRESS INTRODUCED A BILL THAT
DID NOT PASS CALLED THE AXIS ACT, IT WOULD HAVE OPENED THE
APP STORE MONOPOLY A LITTLE BIT. AS YOU HAVE REPORTED, EUROPE IS
TAKING ACTION. THERE IS LITIGATION IN
AUSTRALIA, SO IT WILL BE A COMPLICATED SITUATION FOR APPLE
AND MAYBE IT IS IN THEIR INTEREST TO TRY TO RESOLVE
THESE DISPUTES BUT APPLE SO FAR HAS SHOWN IT WANTS TO FIGHT
TOOTH AND NAIL AND RESIST ATTEMPTS TO REGULATE OR CHANGE
BEHAVIOR. ED: IT IS GETTING COMPLICATED.
APPLE IS FACING ANTITRUST SC
RUTINY ON TWO FRONTS. I WANT TO SAY IF YOU READ THE
BLOOMBERG STORY EACH OF THE COMPANIES GAVE A PRETTY FULL
RESPONSE SAYING WE ARE COMPLIANT , SO I ENCOURAGE OUR
AUDIENCE TO LOOK AT THOSE RESPONSES. JOHN DRAKE MAYOR --BERGMAYER,
THANK YOU. APPLE CEO TIM COOK HAS REVEALED
PLANS TO INVEST IN SUPPLY CHAIN STORES AND RESEARCH IN CHINA.
STATE MEDIA SAYS HE MADE THE PROMISE ANY MEETING WITH
BEIJING'S COMMERCE MINISTER AT THE ANNUAL CHINA DEVELOP AN
FORUM, SAYING AI WILL BE AN ESSENTIAL TOOL FOR HELPI
NG
BUSINESSES REDUCE THEIR CARBON FOOTPRINTS. >> WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO
RECOVER THE LEVEL OF MATERIALS THAT WE DO TODAY FOR RECYCLING
WITHOUT AI. IT IS ALREADY FUNDAMENTAL IN
OUR CALCULATION AND I THINK IT PROVIDES AN ENORMOUS TOOL FOR
EVERY COMPANY THAT IS WISHING TO BE CARBON NEUTRAL OR TO
LOWER EMISSIONS BY SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT. ED: COMING UP, WE WILL HAVE THE
LATEST ON LUCID'S CASH INJECTION FROM ITS DEFINITIVELY
INVESTOR. THAT STICK A LOOK AT THE NASDAQ 100, MY GO TO INDEX, VERY
CONCENTRATED
. WE ARE SOFTER .2%. WE STARTED THE WEEK TREADING
WATER, BUT WE ARE COMING OFF THE BEST WEEK FOR THE NASDAQ
100 IN 2024 SO FAR AND THE FOCUS AGAIN WILL BE THE FED
RATES AND EVENTUALLY EARNINGS SEASON. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.
THIS IS BLOOMBERG TECHNOLOGY. ED:
LUCID TRADING UP AROUND 5% OR 6% RIGHT NOW.
HAD BEEN TRADING UP AS THE COMPANY RECEIVE A CASH
INJECTION FROM ITS BIGGEST INVESTOR AND AFFILIATE, SAUDI
ARABIA'S PUBLIC INVESTMENT FUND. PROVIDING THE ELECTRIC CAR
MAKER A FURTHER LIFELINE. HERE
TO DISCUSS IS BLOOMBERG'S
GLOBAL AUTOS EDITOR. YOU AND I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING
LUCID A LONG TIME, BEFORE THE REVERSE MERGER THAT TOOK THEM
PUBLIC AT THE POINT OF THAT IS WE HAVE ALSO TRACKED THE
BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THE PIF AND ITS AFFILIATES HAVE PUT IN.
BRING US UP TO SPEED ON HOW MUCH CASH THE SAUDI'S HAVE PUT
INTO LUCID SO FAR. >> PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE
-- ABOUT THE FEDERAL RESERVE PUT. THIS IS THE PIF PUT THIS IS ON
TOP OF THE BOOST ALREADY PUT IN BY THEIR BIGGEST SHAREHOLDER.
IT WAS NECESSARY.
IT MAY BE THE CASE THAT THIS IS
NOT THE LAST CAPITAL RACE -- READS WE SEE THIS YEAR BECAUSE
THIS IS A COMPANY GOING INTO 2024 HAD ONLY A LITTLE BIT OVER
$4 BILLION ON ITS BALANCE SHEET AND THERE WERE EXPECTATIONS
AMONG ANALYSTS THAT ALL OF THAT COULD BE ACCOUNTED FOR IN CASH
BURN THIS YEAR, SO LUCID HAS BEEN A COMPANY THAT, WHEN IT
WAS GOING PUBLIC THROUGH A REVERSE MERGER, WAS LOOKED AT
AS A POTENTIAL TESLA CHALLENGER. IT HAS STRUGGLED TO LIVE UP TO
THOSE EXPECTATIONS AND GET MANUFACTURING GOI
NG.
I THINK IT LET A LOT OF INVESTORS DOWN WITH THEIR
OUTLOOK FOR THE YEAR BEING A SMALL INCREASE FROM LAST YEAR.
ED: I THINK THEY ARE GUARDING TO 9000 UNITS THIS YEAR, A PREMIUM
PRICE POINT. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE IS AN
EV PROBLEM. WHERE DOES LUCID SIT IN THAT?
CRAIG: THERE IS HOPE THAT MOVING INTO
SPORT UTILITY VEHICLES WOULD BE A BIG HELP FOR THEM.
THEY ARE PLAYING AT THE HIGHER END AND THE LEVEL OF
COMPETITION IS HIGH IN THE U.S.. WE HAVE SEEN SO MUCH MORE
FIGHTING AT THE UPPER ENDS OF THE
MARKET.
WHERE WE HAVE NOT REALLY SEEN AS WE HAVE IN CHINA CUTTHROAT
COMPETITION AMONG CHEAP EV'S. WHEN YOU HAVE TO GO UP AGAINST
OR ESTABLISHED PLAYERS LIKE MERCEDES AND BMW, IT IS TOUGH.
LUCID HAS COMPELLING PRODUCT. THE ISSUE THEY HAVE HAD IS NOT
BEEN ABLE TO MAKE ENOUGH OF IT TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THEIR EV'S
WITHOUT LOSING A TON OF MONEY. THE MORE THEY ARE MAKING, THE
MORE THEY ARE LOSING, AND THAT IS NOT A TREND THAT CAN BE
SUSTAINED. ED: AS ELON MUSK HAS TEASED,
PROTOTYPES ARE EASY AND PRODUCT
ION IS HARD.
BLOOMBERG NEWS SPOKE TO THE SEA EO OF THE BIGGEST MAKER OF
BATTERIES FOR EV'S. WHAT WERE THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAYS
FROM THE INTERVIEW? CRAIG: ONE OF THE BIG ONES WAS AN
EXCLUSIVE YOU WERE PART OF THIS YEAR, THIS IDEA THAT SEE ATL
DID HAVE EQUIPMENT THAT WAS IDLE IN CHINA THAT TESLA WILL
MAKE USE OF BY MAKING MORE BATTERIES AT ITS FACTORY.
THIS IS A COMPANY THAT IS PRESSING AHEAD IN SPITE OF THE
FACT THAT WE ARE SEEING AN EV SLOWDOWN AND VOWING TO CONTINUE
TO ADD CAPACITY. WE ARE SEEING
THIS BROADER
TREND , WHETHER IT IS ON THE BATTERY SIDE OR EV'S AND
BATTERIES, THE REAL DOMINANT PLAYERS IN CHINA ARE PRESSING
THEIR VANTAGES OVER THE OTHERS. AND CONTINGENT AT CAPACITY.
THE QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, HOW MUCH LONGER SOME OF THE
LESSER COMPANIES IN CHINA CAN SUSTAIN THEMSELVES IN THE FACE
OF GETTING BIGGER AND GETTING MORE AGGRESSIVE TO DRIVE OUT
PLAYERS WHO CANNOT KEEP UP. ED: GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON THE
PROGRAM. COMING UP, A SHAKEUP AT
STABILITY AI. MORE ON THE RESIGNATION OF THE
CE
O NEXT. WE ARE ALSO TAKING A LOOK AT
SHARES OF BOEING. HE MUST HAVE SEEN THIS STORY,
UP .8%. CEO DAVE CALHOUN WILL STEP DOWN
AT THE END OF THE YEAR. THERE ARE SWEEPING OVERHAULS OF
LEADERSHIP. THE CHAIRMAN WILL NOT STAND FOR
REELECTION AND THE GUY ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF YOUR SCREEN,
WHO LED THE COMMERCIAL BUSINESS, IS ALSO DEPARTING
WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT. THAT IS THE BIG STORY OUT OF
THE AEROSPACE INDUSTRY THIS MONDAY.
THIS IS BLOOMBERG TECHNOLOGY. ♪ ED: MATCH GROUP IS NAMING TWO
DIRECTORS TO
HIS BOARD. THE OWNER OF DATING APPS WILL
ADD THE INSTACART CHIEF MARKETING OFFICER AND ZILLOW
CO-FOUNDER TO HIS BOARD IMMEDIATELY. HE ALSO SAID -- MATT ALSO SAID
THEY ASSIGNED AN INFORMATION SHARING AGREEMENTS TO
FACILITATE ONGOING COLLABORATION TOWARD VALUE.
THE COMPANY PLANS TO UPDATE SHAREHOLDERS ON ITS STRATEGY ON
AN UPCOMING INVESTOR DAY. AN UPCOMING CHIP START UP
RAISES MONEY IN A FUNDING ROUND. THE COMPANY PROVIDES TECH THAT
UNIFIES SEMI CONDUCTORS TO WORK MORE SMOOTHLY AND FASTER AS THE
LEADER OF AI SEMI CONDUCTORS NVIDIA PUT FORWARD ITS PATH OF
COMBINING TRIPS TO WORK AS ONE RELYING ON THE WORK OF
COMPANIES TO HELP REALIZE THEIR GOALS. STABILITY AI'S CEO HAS RESIGNED
AMID QUARRELS WITH INVESTORS AND WAVES OF SENIOR STAFF
DEPARTURES . IN A BLOG POST FRIDAY,
STABILITY AI SAID ITS CTO WILL SERVE AS INTERIM CO-CEO.
THE COMPANY'S BEST KNOWN FOR ITS IMAGE GENERATION TOOL AND
HELP KICKED OFF THE AI FRENZY, REACHING A VALUE OF $1 BILLION
IN 2022. I WANT TO BRING IN SOMEBODY
THAT WAS
AT THE HEART OF THE REPORTING ON THE STORY.
I DO NOT SAY THAT LIGHTLY. YOU COVERED EVERY STEP IN THIS
STORY BUT ULTIMATELY HE HAS RESIGNED. >> HE SAID HE IS STEPPING DOWN
TO WORK ON SOLVING THE CONCENTRATION OF POWER IN AI.
WE HAVE BEEN THINKING FOR A WHILE THAT HE MAY BE STEPPING
DOWN. WE HEARD RUMORS ABOUT IT. WE WERE AWARE SOME OF THE
PEOPLE BEHIND THE ORIGINAL VERSION OF STABLE DIFFUSION WHO
HAD BEEN IN THE COMING FOR A WHILE WERE LEAVING THE COMPANY,
SO PERHAPS THIS HELP TO HIS DECISION.
IT
IS UNCLEAR AT THIS POINT. ED: WHAT I HAVE LEARNED OVER THE
LAST FEW MONTHS IS THERE IS THE COMPANY THAT CAN OR CANNOT BE
WELL-KNOWN KNOWN AND THEN THE TOOL.
IN THIS CASE, STABLE DIFFUSION WORKS WELL.
IT IS A WELL-KNOWN AND LEADING PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY. RACHEL:
THAT IS CORRECT. IT IS WELL-KNOWN.
IT IS A LEADING PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY, ORIGINALLY
DEVELOPED BY A HANDFUL OF RESEARCHERS IN GERMANY. EMAD STEPPED IN AND OFFERED TO
PAY FOR COMPUTE TO FURTHER TRAIN THIS MODEL.
THEY RENAMED IT STABLE DIFFUSI
ON AND EMAD DECIDED TO
SPREAD IT FAR AND WIDE THROUGH STABILITY AI.
THAT HELPED BRING IT TO THE PUBLIC AND POPULARIZE IT AND
TOUCHED OFF A LOT OF WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW IN TERMS OF
GENERATIVE AI. ED: WHAT IS LEFT AT STABILITY AI OR
WHO IS LEFT? RACHEL: THIS IS A GOOD QUESTION.
WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THIS NOW.
IN TERMS OF TALK TO HER RESEARCH -- TOP-TIER
RESEARCHERS, I AM NOT SURE THERE ARE MANY PEOPLE LEFT.
SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE JUST LEFT.
WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHO ON THIS LIST OF N
AMES FROM
THEIR BIGGEST RESEARCH PAPERS IS ACTUALLY STILL THERE.
WE WILL HAVE TO TAKE A LOOK AND SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING SOON. ED:
YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER WHO PUT THESE COMPANIES IN THESE
POSITIONS, THE INVESTORS BEHIND STABILITY AI. RACHEL: THERE IS LIGHTSPEED AND A BUNCH
OF SMALLER AND INDIVIDUAL INVESTORS AS WELL.
THAT WENT THROUGH MULTIPLE ROUNDS.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT STABILITY AI DID NOT JUST
EMERGE FULLY FORMED IN 2022. IT WAS CREATED AS A WAY TO USE
AI TO HELP WITH COVID RELATED RE
SEARCH OR ROUNDING UP COVID
RELATED RESEARCH. THEN IT SHIFTED GEARS AT A
CERTAIN POINT, PROBABLY IN EARLY 2022. ED: BLOOMBERG'S RACHEL METZ.
COMING UP, WE WILL GET BACK TO CRYPTO AND TALK BITCOIN WITH
JACK MALLERS. AND A QUICK CHECK ON SHARES OF
SOME OF THE CHIP NAMES. CHECK OUT AMD AND INTEL, AMD
NOW UP BUT INTEL HAS STAY LOWER. IT HAS PAIRED HIS DECLINES.
THE FINANCIAL TIMES IS REPORTING THAT CHINA'S FINANCE
MINISTRY AND ITS INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY MINISTRY ARE ISSUING
NEW GUIDELINES WHEREBY GO
VERNMENT ENTITIES HAVE TO
SOURCE CHIPS FOR SERVERS AND SERVERS IN THEIR ENTIRETY FROM
DOMESTIC SUPPLIERS , A MOVE AWAY FROM FOREIGN PROVIDERS.
THIS IS THE LATEST IN WHAT HAS BECOME A HOSTILE DOMAIN.
THE U.S. IS PUTTING FORWARD TECHNOLOGY
EXPORT CURVES TO CHINA. NOW CHINA IS RESPONDING WITH
TECHNOLOGY AND PUT RESTRICTIONS LIMITING WHAT GOVERNMENT
AGENCIES AND STATE BACKED COMPANIES CAN USE. INTEL HAS 25% OF ITS REVENUES
FROM CHINA. >> AFTER YEARS IN THE MAKING,
THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUS
TICE HAS FILED ITS ANTITRUST
LAWSUIT AGAINST APPLE, THREATENING ITS UNDERLYING
BUSINESS MODEL. THE GOVERNMENT IS TAKING AIM AT
APPLE'S POLICIES IS RUNNING SUPER APPS, CLOUD GAMING
SERVICES, MESSAGING, TAP TO PAY, AND SUPPORT ON THE IPHONE
4 THIRD-PARTY SMART WATCHES. WHILE APPLE HAS HAD A NEGATIVE
IMPACT ON SUPPLIERS, THE FIRST ITERATION OF THE DOJ'S CASE
DOESN'T REALLY PROVE HOW APPLE HAS HARMED CONSUMERS.
APPLE HAS ALREADY ADDRESSED SEVERAL OF THE DOJ'S
COMPLAINTS, PLEDGING TO ADOPT RCS TO ENA
BLE BETTER TEXTING
BETWEEN IPHONES AND ANDROID DEVICES, AND THE COMPANY HAS
SHOWN IT WILL HAVE NEW FEATURES FOR DEVELOPERS IN THE CLOUD
GAMING AND SUPERAPP SPACES. THE IS RIGHT THAT THE APPLE
WATCH IS FAVORED OVER THIRD-PARTY SMART WATCHES AND
APPLE BLOCKS THIRD-PARTY APPS FROM USING THE NFC CHIP IN THE
IPHONE 4 TAP TO PAY. APPLE SHOULD ABSOLUTELY ADDRESS
BOTH CONCERNS. BUT FOR NOW IT SEEMS LIKELY
THAT THE ENTIRE LAWSUIT WILL TAKE A FEW YEARS TO RESULT IN
MAJOR CHANGES. STILL, I ULTIMATELY EXPEC
T
APPLE TO CRACK THE IPHONE OPEN IN THE SAME VEIN AS IT IS DOING
IN THE EUROPEAN UNION BECAUSE OF THE DIGITAL MARKETS ACT.
ALL THAT BEING SAID, THE DOJ IS STILL DISTRACTING FROM SOME
REAL ISSUES BY FOCUSING ON MATTERS INCLUDING FRIVOLOUS
CLAIMS THAT APPLE IS BEHIND THE DOWNFALL OF THE AMAZON FIRE
PHONE A DECADE AGO. STILL, THINGS COULD CHANGE
QUICKLY, ESPECIALLY WHEN NEW EVIDENCE EMERGES IN A TRIAL.
ULTIMATELY THE LAWSUIT SEEMS FRIVOLOUS, BUT THERE IS A LOT
THAT APPLE HAS CHANGED AND A LOT IT CA
N STILL CHANGE.
I AM MARK GURMAN FOR BLOOMBERG NEWS. ED: THAT WAS THIS WEEK'S "POWER ON"
WITH MARK GURMAN F DOWN MORE THAN A PERCENTAGE POINT IN THE
SESSION. THE CATALYST, THE PROBE BY THE
EUROPEAN COMMISSION. WHEN RECOVERED THE DOJ SUIT,
THE STOCK FELL 4% THURSDAY, THE BIGGEST DROP SINCE AUGUST. IT
IS STARTING TO FEEL THE ANTITRUST PRESSURE. REAL QUICK ON THE DMA, AN APPLE
SPOKESPERSON TOLD BLOOMBERG THAT APPLE FEELS IT IS
COMPLIANT WITH THE DNA. YOU NOTICE THE JUMP BEFORE WE
CAME ON AIR COMEBA
CK TOWARDS 70,000 U.S. DOLLARS.
THERE IS A CALENDAR MOMENT COMING UP.
BITCOIN IS APPROACHING ITS HIGHLY ANTICIPATED HIVING
EVENT, WHICH WOULD LOWER THE SUPPLY OF NEWLY MINTED BITCOIN.
BITCOIN HIT RECORDS AFTER EACH OF THE LAST THREE HALVINMGS.
LET'S BRING IN JACK MALLERS, WHO I'VE DISCUSSED THIS WITH
BEFORE. GIVE ME YOUR THOUGHTS ON HALVING . >> WHAT'S GOING ON, ED, I MISS
YOU, BROTHER, YOU LOOK GOOD. JUST SO EVERYONE IS AWARE OF
THE FIXED SUPPLY OF BITCOIN, 21 MILLION, BUT NOT ALL 21 MILLION
HA
VE BEEN ISSUED TO THE WORLD YET.
BITCOIN IS ON A FIXED-ISSUANCE SCHEDULE.
TOSHI WHEN HE OR SHE OR THEY LAUNCH TO BITCOIN, HOW THOSE
WOULD BE ISSUED OUT, $19 MILLION OUT OF 21 SO FAR.
EVERY 10 MINUTES MORE AND MORE GET ISSUED.
HALVING IS WHEN THE SCHEDULE GETS CUT IN HALF.
THE FORCED SELLERS, THOSE THAT PAY MONEY TO PRODUCE BITCOINS,
THAT IS GOING TO BE HALVED. THE SIMPLE WAY TO THINK ABOUT
IT, EDIT, IS IF DEMAND REMAINS THE SAME, THE BITCOIN SOLD GETS
CUT IN HALF, IT SHOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE
PRICE TO THE
UPSIDE. IT IS A BIG EVENT AND WE ARE
EXCITED ABOUT IT. ED: LET'S HAVE A HEALTHY AND ROBUST
DEBATE. GIVE ME A MOMENT TO OUTLINE THE
COUNTERPOINT. YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE CAMP FOR A
WHILE THAT THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE 21 MILLION BITCOIN, AND
SO PRICES HAVE TO GO UP. YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE
CONTEXT OF HYPERINFLATION, DON'T BE HOLDING DOLLARS.
I WOULD POINT OUT THAT THE MARKET DOESN'T SEE FURTHER
INFLATION. IT DOESN'T SEEM MORE INFLATION
TO COME. AND IF YOU WILL ALLOW ME, IF
YOU LOO
K AT THIS MORNING'S TRADING IN TERMS OF LIQUIDITY,
I THINK $30 BILLION TO $40 BILLION WORTH OF BITCOIN WAS
OUT THERE IN THE MARKET. THERE ARE COUNTERPOINTS TO THE
THESIS THAT YOU HAVE OUTLINED. JACK:
IS THAT THE END OF YOUR POINT? ED: END OF MY POINT, PLEASE
PROCEED. JACK: I WAS TRYING TO BE POLITE.
LET'S DUMB IT DOWN -- THE PROBLEM WITH CENTRAL PLANNING
MONEY, WHICH IS SUCH A CORE TECHNOLOGY TO SOCIETY WORKING
-- THINK ABOUT IT, ED CAN YOU GO TO WORK EVERYTHING IS THERE
ANY POOR YOUR BLOOD, SWE
AT, AND TEARS ALL YOUR TIME YOU SPENT
ON THIS PLANET IN EXCHANGE FOR WHAT? MONEY. THE CENTRAL PLANNING MONEY
CONVOLUTES SO MUCH OF THE INNER WORKINGS OF SOCIETY.
LET'S GO BACK TO BASICS. OUR GOVERNMENT IS IN DEBT.
ALL GOVERNMENTS. OUR GOVERNMENT IS INDEBTED.
TRADITIONALLY IF I OWED YOU $20, I WOULD HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
I WOULD, ONE, HAVE TO DEFAULT ON THAT AND SAY I HOPE YOU
CONSIDER ME A GOOD FRIEND BUT I WILL NOT MAKE THAT $20.
THE OTHER IS I CAN PAY BACK. THOSE ARE THE TWO OPTIONS THAT
ANYONE IN
DEBT HAS. THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE THEY
CENTRALLY PLAN AND CONTROL OUR CURRENCY UNFORTUNATELY HAS A
THIRD, AND THAT IS THAT THEY CAN PRINT MORE MONEY COMING
DEVALUE THE DEBT THAT THEY HAVE AND THAT THEY OWE, AND ALLOCATE
MORE CAPITAL TO THEMSELVES. OUR GOVERNMENT CAN'T DEFAULT.
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CANNOT DEFAULT ON DEBT.
IT WOULD COLLAPSE THE ENTIRE PLANET.
WE CANNOT AFFORD TO PAY IT BACK. LISTEN, I DIDN'T EVEN GO TO
COLLEGE, BROTHER. THIS IS 101 BASICS, HOW THE
WORLD WORKS. IF WE CAN'T
DEFAULT AND WE
CAN'T PAY IT BACK, WHAT IS THE ONLY OPTION THAT THEY HAVE TO
DO, NO MATTER WHAT THEY SIT AND TELL YOU ABOUT THE FED CHAIR
MEETINGS AND ALL OF THE ECONOMISTS, THEY HAVE TO ISSUE
MORE DOLLARS. IF THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE
PIECES OF GREEN PAPER, YOU WANT THEM COMPETING FOR THE MOST
FIXED THING. THERE IS MORE DOLLARS THAT ARE
COMPETING FOR A FIXED AMOUNT OF BITCOIN -- ED: JACK -- JACK:
REAL ESTATE IS GOING TO GO UP, TOO, BECAUSE THERE IS MORE
DOLLARS COMPETING FOR REAL ESTATE, BUT THE
Y CAN FIND MORE
REAL ESTATE, THEY CAN FIND MORE GOLD, THEY CANNOT MAKE MORE
BITCOINS. EVEN A COLLEGE DROPOUT CAN
UNDERSTAND THAT, MY FRIEND. ED: LET ME JUMP IN AND REITERATE
THAT YOUR ARGUMENT IS THERE IS ONLY GOING TO BE 21 MILLION
BITCOIN, AND THE FINALITY OF THAT -- WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY
-- THE SUPPLY CONSTRAINT ON THAT IS WHAT WILL PROVIDE
UPWARD MOMENTUM. I HAVE MANY QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
PUT YOUR STRIKE CER HAT ON AND LET'S TALK ABOUT PAYMENTS.
GIVE ME AN UPDATE ON THE STATE OF CRYPTO PAYME
NT.
WE HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS, REAL-WORLD
ADOPTION, BECAUSE WE ARE OVER THE MARKET MECHANICS OF BITCOIN
AT THIS POINT. WHAT ARE YOU SEEING GLOBALLY?
JACK: I THINK THE BIGGEST -- I DON'T
KNOW IF IT'S TENSION -- THE BIGGEST STORY IS STABLECOINS
FOR SURE. HERE IS MY PERSONAL TAKE,
BITCOIN IS THE ONLY NEUTRAL VALUE TRANSFER PROTOCOL FOR THE
WORLD. WE VIEW IT AT STRIKE AS THE
SINGER VALUE TRANSFER PROTOCOL FOR PLANET EARTH.
THAT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF GOBBLEDYGOOK.
WHAT I ACTUALLY MEAN BY T
HAT IS BITCOIN IS THE ONLY PHYSICAL
DIGITAL INSTRUMENT. STABLECOIN IS JUST AN IOU FOR A
BANK DEPOSIT. IT IS LIKE NOVATION TO ACH.
YOU HAVE COUNTERPARTY RISK WITH THE ISSUER, WITH THE
REGULATORS, WITH WHERE THE BANK DEPOSIT IS HELD.
BITCOIN IS THE ONLY PHYSICAL INSTRUMENT ON THE INTERNET THAT
WE CAN MOVE GLOBALLY. WE VIEW IT AS THE WAY -- IT IS
LIKE THE TCPIP FOR VALUE TRANSFER OF THE WEB.
THE PROBLEM IS THAT CONSUMERS AROUND THE WORLD PREFER
STABLECOINS BECAUSE OF THEIR RELATIVE STABLE VALUE TO
BITCOIN. WHEN YOU HAVE EMERGING MARKETS
LIKE IN AFRICA, WHEN AMERICA, ALL THROUGH LATIN AMERICA, THEY
FIND IT DIFFICULT TO STOMACH THE VOLATILITY IF YOU ARE
LIVING PAYCHECK-TO-PAYCHECK, BITCOIN CAN BE AN INTIMIDATING
ASSET. WHERE WE ARE SPENDING A LOT OF
OUR TIME IS TRYING TO MEET THE CONSUMER DEMAND OF AFRICA,
LATIN AMERICA, WHERE BITCOIN THE TECHNOLOGY IS JUST SO FAR
AHEAD OF EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT THE DOLLAR VALUE IS VALUABLE TO
CONSUMERS IN THESE REGIONS. I THINK THAT IS GOING TO BE A
LOT OF T
HE PAYMENT'S INNOVATION THE NEXT FEW YEARS, THE
MARRYING OF THOSE TWO CONCEPTS. ED:
JUST A QUICK FOLLOW-UP ON THAT, GEOGRAPHY WAS ONE OF THE OTHER
QUESTIONS WE GOT. HOW WAS THE EL SALVADOR HQ
GOING? ONE EXAMPLE. BUT YOU MENTIONED AFRICA AND
LATIN AMERICA. ONLY HAVE A FEW SECONDS, BUT DO
YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC LIST OF COUNTRIES TO WHICH YOU HAVE
ACTUALLY EXPENDED SERVICE? JACK: WE JUST LAUNCHED STRIKE AFRICA.
LISTEN, EVERY SINGLE PERSON ON THE PLANET IS DEALING WITH FIAT
DEBASEMENT, WITH WHAT I EXPL
AINED, THE FACT THAT THE
GOVERNMENT HAS TO ISSUE MORE OF THEIR CURRENCY.
ACCESS TO BITCOIN IS PARAMOUNT, THE KILLER USE CASE BECAUSE IT
IS THE ONLY THING THAT NO ONE ON THE PLANET CAN CREATE MORE
OF. FOR PAYMENTS, WE THINK IT IS FASCINATING TO DISRUPT
CROSS-BORDER PAYMENTS. THE FACT THAT I CAN MOVE
SOMETHING PHYSICAL LIKE A WATER BOTTLE OR MY IPHONE FROM HERE
TO NIGERIA WITH BITCOIN IS CRAZY.
THE CLASH SHOULD COME DOWN THERE.
AFRICA WE HAVE LAUNCHED, EUROPE IS UP NEXT, LATIN AMERICA AFTER
THAT.
WE ARE ON THE WARPATH TO BRING
A BITCOIN-FOCUSED CONSUMER EXPERIENCE TO THE WORLD.
I'M CURIOUS TO SEE WHERE THIS GOES. ED:
JACK, I ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU IN REAL TIME
ON THE BLOOMBERG TERMINAL. JACK, HOW CAN THE BLOCKCHAIN
SUSTAIN ITSELF IF THE MINERS WHO ARE VALIDATING THE
TRANSACTION MINE LESS AND LESS NEW COINS?
THAT IS A DIRECT QUESTION TO YOU FROM OUR AUDIENCE. JACK:
YEAH, SO THE MINERS GET PAID FEES.
EVERY SINGLE TRANSACTION IS A FEE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT.
THERE HAS BEEN BLOCKED A
S A RECENT WHERE THE FEES ARE MORE
THAN THE ISSUANCE REWARD. BUT THE BITCOIN PROTOCOL
AUTO-ADJUST ITSELF AND THE DIFFICULTY REQUIRED CHANGES BY
HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE MINING. THE PROTOCOL IS BUILT TO
SUSTAIN ITSELF, AND THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT IS WAY OUT IN THE
FUTURE. SOMETIMES WHEN PEOPLE GET
STRESSED OUT, THE BITCOIN PRICE IS OUTPACING THE HALVINGS.
BITCOIN IS GOING UP MULTIPLES MORE THAN THE ISSUANCE BEING
HAD. BITCOIN IS UP 100% OVER THE LAST CALENDAR YEAR.
I THINK THIS IS ANXIETY-INDUCING PROB
LEM THAT
WE MAY FACE IN 20 COME, 40, 50, 100 YEARS.
SATOSHI'S INTENTION WAS TRANSACTION FEES, THAT PEOPLE
PAY TO GET TRANSACTION FINALITY, AND THAT SHOULD
SUSTAIN THE NETWORK PLENTY. ED: STRIKE THE CEO JACK MALLORS,
THANK YOU FOR FIELDING MY QUESTIONS IN THE AUDIENCE
QUESTIONS. WE WILL GET YOU WANT IN THE
NEAR FUTURE. FROM LINE VENTURES WANTS TO
ACCELERATE TRANSATLANTIC EXPANSION FOR SOFTWARE
COMPANIES IN THE U.S. AND EUROPE.
WE ARE GOING TO TALK MORE ABOUT THAT NEXT WITH FRONTLINE
VENTURES PART
NER ZOÉ CHAMBERS. STICK WITH US, THIS IS SHOT OF THE PRINCIPALI ROOM.
"ETF IQ," ONE OF MY FAVORITE BLOOMBERG
SHOWS. THIS IS BLOOMBERG. ♪ FRONTLINE VENTURES RECENTLY
RAISED $200 MILLION ACROSS TWO NEW FUNDS WITH THE GOAL OF
ACCELERATING TRANSATLANTIC EXPANSION FOR SOFTWARE
COMPANIES IN THE U.S. AND EUROPE.
I WANT TO BRING IN FRONTLINE VENTURES PARTNER ZOE CHAMBERS
FOR TODAY'S VC SPOTLIGHT. WHAT QUALIFIES AS THE TRANS
ATLANTIC B2B SOFTWARE COMPANY? WHAT WERE THEY HAVE TO OFFER
YOU TO GET A CHECK O
UT OF THOSE FUNDS? ZOE:
FIRST OF ALL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME THIS MORNING.
AS YOU MENTIONED, MY NAME IS ZOE CHAMBERS AND I AM ONE OF
THE PARTNERS HAD FRONTLINE VENTURES.
WE HAVE A EUROPEAN EARLY-STAGE FUND THAT LOOKS TO BE THE FIRST
INSTITUTIONAL CHECK INTO STARTUPS THAT ARE GLOBALLY
AMBITIOUS AND LOOK TO ACCELERATE THE MARKET ENTRY
INTO THE STATES . AND THEN WE HAVE A GROWTH STAGE
FUND WHICH INVESTS IN SERIES B TO D AND LOOKS TO HELP THOSE
COMPANIES ENTER THE EUROPEAN MARKET. WE HAVE DONE
SO WITH COMPANIES.
ED: I FIND IT REALLY INTERESTING.
DOES IT REFLECT A DEFICIT OF TALENT OR A DEFICIT OF
COMPANIES OPERATIONALIZING ONE MARKET VS.
ANOTHER, OR IS THE OPPOSITE THAT IF YOU WANT TO GROW A GOOD
SOFTWARE COMPANY, YOU NEED TO BE IN THOSE MARKETS? ZOE:
THAT IS EXACTLY ED, THAT POINT. FUNDAMENTALLY, 70% OF GLOBAL
SOFTWARE SPENT COMES FROM THE U.S.
AND EUROPE, AND 70% OF VENTURE CAPITAL DOLLARS IS IN THOSE TWO
MARKETS. OUR STRATEGY CENTERS AROUND THE
CORE BELIEF THAT YOU HAVE TO ACCESS
AND WIN IN BOTH THE U.S.
AND EUROPE IF YOU TRULY WANT TO BE A CATEGORY LEADER AND GO ON
TO IPO. IT'S MORE ABOUT THE MOST TALENTED WANT TO HAVE A
FOOTHOLD IN THOSE GEOGRAPHIES BECAUSE THEY ARE SO IMPORTANT.
ED: ZOE, WHEN FRONTLINE IS LOOKING
FOR THIS TALENT THAT THE FOUNDERS, TELL ME ABOUT THE
FIRM AND HOW IT IS SET UP. DO YOU HAVE PEOPLE
TRANSATLANTIC AS WELL IN TERMS OF YOUR OFFICES? ZOE:
WE ABSOLUTELY DO. WE HAVE FOLKS IN SAN FRANCISCO,
NEW YORK, DUBLIN, AND IN LONDON. THAT KIND OF FOLLOWS NOT
ONLY
WHERE TALENT IS, BUT EQUALLY THE KEY LANDING SPOTS WHEN YOU
ARE A U.S. COMPANY THAT EXTENDS INTO
EUROPE TENDS TO BE LONDON, DUBLIN, AMSTERDAM, AND BERLIN.
THE OTHER WAY AROUND, SAN FRANCISCO AND NEW YORK, TWO
VERY STRONG, MATURE ECOSYSTEMS. OF COURSE WE HAVE PARTNERS ON
THE GROUND THERE. ED: FRONTLINE VENTURES PARTNER ZOE
CHAMBERS, TWO NEW FUNDS, 200 MILLION DOLLARS GOING AFTER THE
TRANSONIC START THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
COMING UP ON THE SHOW, INSTAGRAM MAKES CHANGES TO
SUGGESTION -- ITS
SUGGESTIONS FOR POLITICAL CONTENT, AND THAT
IS INVOKED A RESPONSE FROM ITS USER BASE. WE WILL GO TO D.C.
AND GET SOME OF THE DETAILS COMING UP NEXT.
THIS IS "BLOOMBERG TECHNOLOGY." ♪ ED:
INSTAGRAM USERS ARE TAKING TO RIVAL PLATFORMS -- FOR EXAMPLE,
X -- VOICE SOME OUTRAGE. PARENT COMPANY META QUIETLY
ROLLED OUT A FEATURE THAT LIMITS POLITICAL CONTENT BY
DEFAULT WHEN IT COMES TO SUGGESTED POSTS.
I WANT TO BRING IN KAILEY LEINZ OUT OF D.C.
THIS IS AN INTERESTING ONE. EXPLAIN THE STORY TO ME. KAIL
EY:
THIS IS INTERESTING, ED, BECAUSE INSTAGRAM AND THREADS,
THE TWO PLATFORMS, ANNOUNCED OF THESE CHANGES WERE COMING IN
FEBRUARY, ESSENTIALLY SAYING THEY WERE NO LONGER GOING TO BE
PROACTIVELY RECOMMENDING POLITICAL CONTENT.
THEY SAID THAT IF YOU DECIDE TO FOLLOW ACCOUNTS THAT POST
POLITICAL CONTENT, THEY DON'T WANT TO GET BETWEEN YOU AND
YOUR POSTS BUT THEY DON'T WANT TO PROMOTE CONTENT FROM
ACCOUNTS YOU DON'T FOLLOW. SO NOW IT IS THE DEFAULT
SETTING THAT YOU WON'T SEE THE POLITICAL MATERIAL U
NLESS YOU
SELECT TO. IN RESPONSE SOME HAVE SAID
MAYBE THIS IS A WAY TO REDUCE MISINFORMATION OR INFLAMMATORY
CONTENT BEING CIRCULATED IN AN ELECTION YEAR, BUT OTHERS ARE
SAYING IT COULD LIMIT POLITICAL DISCOURSE IN AN ELECTION YEAR.
THERE IS CONCERN ABOUT HOW THE COMPANIES ARE DEFINING
POLITICAL CONTENT. WHAT EXACTLY THAT MEANS, HOW
THEY ARE CATEGORIZING IT. IN THE SAME BLOG POST INSTAGRAM
SAID IT COULD BE RELATED TO THINGS LIKE LAWS, ELECTIONS, OR
SOCIAL TOPICS. OBVIOUSLY THAT IS PRETTY BROAD
B
ASKET. IN RESPONSE YOU ARE GETTING
USERS ON ALL ENDS OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM THAT SEEMED
TO BE UNHAPPY. RIGHT-LEADING USERS SAID THIS
COULD BE ANOTHER EXAMPLE BASIE OF EFFORTS TO CENSOR
CONSERVATIVE SPEECH, BUT EVEN SOME ON THE RIGHT SAY THEY SEE
THIS AS AN ATTEMPT BY THE PLATFORM TO LIMIT
PRO-PALESTINIAN CONFLICT. IT IS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE
DIFFICULTY BETWEEN POLICING CONTENT MAKING SURE
MISINFORMATION DOESN'T CIRCULATE, BUT ABIDING BY FIRST
AMENDMENT RIGHTS. GRANTED, WITH THE RIGHT TO FREE
SPEECH. ED: IT IS AN INTERESTING CASE STUDY
IN AN ELECTION YEAR BECAUSE META, THE PARENT OF FACEBOOK
AND INSTAGRAM AND THREADS, IS TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE, SAYING
HERE IS A NEW POLICY. THESE USER BASE DOESN'T LIKE IT.
HAS THE COMPANY UPDATED ITS MESSAGING OR SAID ANYTHING MORE
RECENTLY THAT SUGGESTED THEY MIGHT MAKE A CHANGE? KAILEY:
NOT THAT I HAVE SEEN, ED. IT BECOMES A QUESTION OF
WHETHER A CHANGE COULD BE ENFORCED IN TERMS OF POLICING
THIS CONTENT. WE HAVE SEEN JUST LAST WEEK THE
SUPREME COU
RT HEARING ARGUMENTS IN THE MURPHY V.
MISSOURI CASE, A LAWSUIT BROUGHT AGAINST THE BIDEN
ADMINISTRATION ARGUING THAT BIDEN AGENCIES LIKE THE CDC
WENT TOO FAR IN THEIR EFFORTS TO PRESSURE PLATFORMS INCLUDING
WHAT WAS THEN TWITTER, EVEN META, TO TAKE DOWN INFORMATION
RELATED TO THE 2020 ELECTION, THE VALIDITY OF THE RESULTS,
THE EFFICACY OF COVID-19 VACCINES.
WE ARE GOING TO AWAIT A RULING FROM THE SUPREME COURT IN THAT
CASE, BUT IT COULD HAVE SWEEPING RAMIFICATIONS FOR THE
WAY THAT THE SOCIAL-MED
IA PLATFORMS POLICE THE CONTENT.
IT IS A QUESTION OF WHETHER LAWS COULD ENFORCE ANY KIND OF
CHANGE ON THE PART OF THESE PLATFORMS AND NOT JUST WHETHER
THEY WOULD ELECT TO CHANGE POLICY THEMSELVES. ED:
KAILEY LEINZ OUT OF D.C., REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR
REPORTING. LET'S TALK MARKETS AGAIN.
AFTER LAST WEEK'S PUBLIC LISTINGS, COULD THE U.S.
IPO WINDOW FINALLY BE REOPENING PROPERLY?
NEXT IN LINE IS A CONSUMER TECH COMPANY WHICH OFFERS CASH-BACK
REWARDS ON VARIOUS PURCHASES FOR THE NETWORK, APP, AND
WEB
SITE. GUESS WHO WAS ON THE STORY?
KATIE RUTH. I REMEMBER YOU REPORTING ABOUT
THE BANKS INVOLVED IN THIS ONE. UPDATE ME ON WHERE THIS IS AT. >> THAT'S RIGHT, WE SKIP THAT T
-- WE SCOOPED THAT THEY HAD HIRED BANKERS LAST YEAR, AND
THEN FINALLY CAME OUT THAT REVEALED THEIR FINANCIALS
INDICATING THAT THEY PLAN TO GO PUBLIC IN THE COMING WEEKS. ED: IBOTTA, MI SAYING THAT MY GUESS
-- MI SAYING THAT RIGHT? KATIE: YES, I BOBOTTA IN TERMS OF "I
BOUGHT A THING." IT ALMOST HAILS FROM THE
GROUPON ERA. IT IS
COUPON-RELATED, ALTHOUGH
DIFFERENT FROM GROUPON. YOU CAN GET CASHBACK FROM
RETAILERS, PARTICULARLY GROCERIES.
THEY HAVE A LARGE PARTNERSHIP WITH WALMART. YEAH, THEY HELP USERS MAKE
MONEY WHILE SHOPPING, OR AT LEAST GET A PORTION OF THE
MONEY THEY ARE SPENDING BACK. ED: VALUED AT $1 BILLION.
ANOTHER IPO FOR US TO BE EXCITED ABOUT.
KATIE ROOF, PAY REPORTING, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
THAT DOES IT FOR THIS EDITION OF "BLOOMBERG TECHNOLOGY."
IT WAS GOING TO BE A SLOW MONDAY, AND THEN BECAME A VERY
NEWS-
HEAVY MONDAY. WHEREVER YOU GET YOUR PODCASTS,
WE ARE PUBLISHING IT TO THE PLATFORMS BUT WE ALSO HAVE A
PODCAST ON APPLE, SPOTIFY, AND I HEART.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LISTEN TO PODCASTS LIKE THAT.
I KNOW JOE ROGAN IS UP THERE, BUT "BLOOMBERG TECHNOLOGY"
IS A GOOD PODCAST, TOO. WE ARE STILL CONTINUING TO
FOLLOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN THE ANTITRUST CONTEXT, WHAT IS
GOING ON WITH CRYPTO MARKETS, IN PARTICULAR BITCOIN.
FROM SAN FRANCISCO, THIS IS "BLOOMBERG TECHNOLOGY."
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