tonight a new warning from Biden to Netanyahu after Israeli missiles killed seven a workers the president felt strongly that it was time to to talk to prime minister Netanyahu about his concerns president to prime minister what was said in the 30-minute phone call and what it could mean for getting Aid into Gaza a blast of spring snow knocks out power for more than half a million Canadians yesterday there was flowers and today it's under a foot of snow and it's not over yet and billions after bi
llions after billions in pre-budget promises we're going to continue to focus on putting money in the pockets of Canadians at issue ask Will that pay off from CBC News this is the national with Chief correspondant Adrien Arseno thanks for joining us tonight the United States is giving Israel serious new demand make concrete changes in its approach in Gaza or else the US may change its policy on the war the message was delivered in a half hour phone call between the US president and the Israeli P
rime Minister their first conversation since Israel missiles killed seven Aid workers including a Canadian helping to deliver food in Gaza earlier this week Biden underscoring an immediate ceasefire is essential and there are now reports Israel may already be starting to act agreeing to open Aid routes into Gaza including a Crossing in the north that's been closed since the beginning of the war Paul Hunter now with those late developments four days after the Israeli attack on that food Aid Convo
y in Gaza killing seven Aid workers including a Canadian a threat from US President Joe Biden to Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu I would characterize this call as very direct very businesslike uh very professional on both sides a 30 minute phone call from Biden to Netanyahu warning the Israeli leader that if Israel doesn't ease up in its approach to its war on Hamas and Gaza the US a longtime staunch Ally of Israel will change its policies on the war the toughest words yet on this from
Biden the president made it clear that our policies with respect to Gaza uh will be dependent upon our assessment of how well the Israelis uh make changes and Implement changes uh to to make the situation in Gaza better for the Palestinian people Biden Under Pressure to more strongly support Palestinians demanded that Israel now allow in more Aid and that Netanyahu take concrete steps to reduce the violence against civilians in Gaza and indeed Aid workers within hours of the Biden phone call th
e White House said Israel committed to open Aid routes into G aaza including at the northern border crossing of arz which had been closed since the start of the war still the US is demanding more than just that as echoed earlier by the US Secretary of State in Brussels if we don't see the changes that we need to see there'll be changes in our own policy meanwhile in the lingering aftermath of that strike on the aid Convoy and the death of Canadian Jacob Flickinger prime minister Justin Trudeau j
oined the call for an open transparent and independent investigation I have to directly take issue with what uh prime minister Netanyahu said yesterday when he said well this just happens uh in conflicts and in Wartime uh no it doesn't just happen and Paul in addition to Gaza I understand that Iran also came up in that call between Biden and Netanyahu yes it did Adrian uh Israel is tonight bracing for some kind of retaliatory response from Iran to that strike in us this week that killed senior I
ranian military leaders at a diplomatic compound the Israeli military is now on high alert with Biden and Netanyahu indeed talking today about the Potential Threat to Israel posed by Iran all of it once again raising larger fears the fighting in that region could be set to soon spread all right Paul Hunter reporting in Washington thank you we're learning more about the little boy in Edmonton who was killed earlier this week by two dogs his grieving mother is opening up offering the final word sh
e said to her son and she spoke tonight to Julia Wong yes it's a memory of a happier time for Kendra Wong the last few days have been agonizing after the death of her 11-year-old cash Grist he was so polite he's just the sweetest boy ever he was so gentle Monday night police say cash was attacked and killed by two very large dogs it happened in this house in Edmonton cash lived in BC and was visiting his father I I lost it I didn't I just regret letting him leave the last thing I said to him was
you know come over here I feel like I'm never going to see you again and I'm going to miss you so he came over and gave me five big hugs three kisses and said I love you Wong says cash had been scheduled to leave mere hours after the attack police say the dogs belong to a roommate of Cash's father she says he told her the dogs were cone Cory the same breed as this one seen here I mean are just a a high drive large athletic Guardian breed um they're very very capable being really well socialized
but again because of their size if you know their behavior isn't as balanced as it needs to be uh those outcomes can be pretty severe the city of Edmonton says Animal Control had been called here before for two other complaints of attacks inside a possible charge in this case could be criminal negligence causing death this lawyer says there's no doubt that like the fact that that you have failed to supervise your animal before is going to be a factor in determining whether your actions in this
case were negligent Cash's mother says considering the other complaints something should have been done earlier about the dogs oh my God for now she's focused on her son's memory he was my world that's 100% we did everything together now he's never going to come home the dogs were seized by Animal Control earlier this week the police now investigating exactly how this track tragedy could have happened Julia Wong CBC News Edmonton South of Edmonton a snowfall warning is in effect tonight from Cal
gary all the way to the US border Mass Environment Canada says parts of Southern Alberta could see up to 30 cm and that the heavy snow could continue to fall into Friday and the snow isn't just in Alberta parts of Quebec are digging out tonight after a spring storm closed schools and knocked out power hundreds of thousands Sarah levit shows us the aftermath it may officially be spring but in Montreal winter is exacting its revenge walloping the city and much of Southern Quebec with wet heavy sno
w City officials warn cleanup will take time we have to plow the snow away from 10,000 kilometers 6,000 kilm of sidewalks and 4,000 kilometers of streets driven by by whipping winds the dense snow brought down trees and power lines forcing hundreds of schools to close and leaving many in the dark at noon 250,000 Quebec households were without power the snow is essentially 3 to six times more heavy than usually it would be so it has an impact on trees of course branches have broken or falling on
our Network causing aages crews are out trying to restore power but some customers have have been warned it may not happen before Friday many are feeling Whiplash this was Montreal last week sunny and free of snow now this I felt pretty depressed honestly uh yesterday there was flowers and today there it's under a foot of snow so I had to go back into my closet and fish out all my stuff uh I almost wor my spring coat and I'm glad I didn't another concern road conditions across much of the city a
re slushy and challenging I wish I didn't change my winter tires uh on Sunday that was definitely a mistake this meteorologist says winter weather doesn't always obey the calendar especially in Montreal in the first half of April don't be surprised it doesn't happen every year in the second half of April it's more exceptional and at the beginning of May it's like near records or like we're it's really extreme and as the storm now pushes into the maritimes some people here are making the most of
it this skier says the conditions are sick so Sarah that storm definitely not done yet can it take us through the next few days yeah it's still going to be messy with snowfall warnings in uh Northeastern new Bruns as well as Northern Cape Breton some places expecting up to 30 cmers of that heavy snow that we've seen here and don't forget the wind some areas of Nova Scotia expecting winds up to 80 kilm per hour but they should be dying down by Friday Adrien all right Sarah levit in a still stormy
Montreal from the Atlantic to the Pacific now and the emergency still unfolding in Taiwan hundreds of people are now believed to be trapped after Wednesday's powerful earthquake cam Macintosh now on the race to get them to safety at this temporary medical station dozens of rescued tourists tended to this woman one of many here out hiking when the Quake hit the night was a terrible terrible with off shs and Tremors and every minutes through the day rescue crews focused on the rugged and mountain
ous terrain of the sprawling County of Wan near the Quakes epicenter off taiwan's East Coast it's estimated hundreds were still stranded Thursday aftershocks and rock slides slowing access in many areas like this Trail leading to into a quarry where these miners were stranded rescued later by helicopter rocks were like bullets coming from above says this minor some people have been found unconscious or with serious injuries the Taiwanese government says three Canadian tourists were rescued in a
national park at this hostel owners say some guests remain missing so we both very worri about our Our Guest in the aftermath more evidence of how violent that magnitude 7.4 Quake was cracked walls bouncing Bridges a shaking hospital where nurses huddled newborns together in Wan City that tilted building symbolic of the disaster is being pulled down inside a body of a woman was found who ran back in to get her cat but most buildings while all damaged still stand Taiwan is built to withstand eart
hquakes still the first one in 25 years has people rattled with many now thinking about the next one but for now the focus remains on Rescue and Recovery Cameron Macintosh CBC News Winnipeg a new report out tonight says patients in this country are now waiting longer for surgeries than before the pandemic Christine beak takes us through the numbers and shows us how some hospitals are coping Canadians are waiting long longer for more procedures compared to 2019 we're still seeing the I think ling
ering effects of the pandemic but researchers also say more surgeries are happening which means things are trending in the right direction but there's a long way to go the goal is to have 90% of Canadians have their hip replaced within 26 weeks of a booking date the latest National Data reveals in 2023 the number was only 66% Ontario did better at nearly 8 all other provinces fell well below average including BC Alberta and Quebec Pei had the longest weights similarily 60% of Canadians had their
knee replaced within the goal in Ontario the number was higher all other provinces fell short in Quebec just 38% had their knee replaced within about 6 months as we've ramped up all of our capacity we are looking at doing more cases than we're actually funded for some Ontario hospitals collaborate ated to do as many surgeries as possible here at Humber The Province only funded about 1500 hip and knee surgeries last year some hospitals may stop at that cap because many hospitals are in a lot of
deficit um given the current climate Humber performed 2300 with help from fundraising there needs to be a recognition of this problem and and accountability on how we're going to solve the Canadian Orthopedic Association recommends running Hospital operating rooms evenings and weekends stabilizing Staffing and adds data should guide fixing backlogs it's not just about you know counting weight times as there's actually individuals who are affected by this and with an aging population the demand f
or procedures is only going up experts insist the best time to properly equip our health system was 20 years ago the next best time is now Christine bck CBC News Toronto again tonight prime minister Justin Trudeau is promising more money for housing part of about $25 billion now of new spending announcements ahead of the federal budget and he says he won't raise taxes to pay for it at least not on the middle class we're going to continue to focus on affordability we're going to continue to focus
on putting money in the pockets of Canadians there are no plans uh to raise taxes on the middle class there was no promise not to raise taxes on other groups however today's announcement 1.5 billion to help nonprofit organizations buy up more rental units and keep them affordable and Rosie takes the Liberals pre-budget tour to Shantal Andrew and Alia will all those promises pay off that and more in that issue in just a few minutes three new democrat MPS say they will not be seeking reelection t
ogether they represent more than 40 years of experience in Parliament it's always uh it's always tough though to see some of the veterans move on but we respect all the great work they've done and honor them and we'll continue their legacy with great new MPS Charlie Angus was one of the MPS who made the announcement today he's been a prominent voice in the party and in Parliament and has represented his Northern Ontario riding since 2004 Carol Hughes also a Northern Ontario MP will not run again
as her riding is divided up the next election and finally Rachel blay first elected on Vancouver Island in 2015 announced she is leaving politics well Ford is pushing back plans to start producing electric vehicles out of Ontario as Philip Lee shanok shows us the move is the latest in a series of setbacks for the EV industry as a whole Ford is taking its foot off the gas delaying plans to produce electric vehicles out of its Oakville Ontario plant by 2 years Ford says the extra time will allow
for Ev demand to pick up the union representing workers is pushing back promises have been made and we expect for Motor Company to live up to that one of those promises secure jobs about 3,000 of them Ford now says there will be layoffs it's just uh deeply uh disappointing sharing in that disappointment The Province and the federal government they each invested $295 million in the Oakville plant both say they plan to press Ford obviously this is not the news we expected uh we wanted that time fr
ame to be as short as possible and that's what we're going to push the company for the despite the investment and the anger some experts are defending the new timeline saying growth in EV sales is slowing in part because of the cost and concern over battery range automakers don't control the consumer we have to build out the supports to help more consumers make that switch and make the jump into electric others note that Ford is not alone General Motors is also slowing work to retool factories f
or Ev production and Tesla has seen a large dip in sales both signs that not everyone sold on the switch to Electric yet we all do know where this is headed it's the only debate we're having is uh how steep the curve is still Ford is aiming to roll out its seven seat EV at the cental plant by 2027 and with Canada aiming to end the sale of new gas powered cars in 2035 a shift is imminent even if the pace is now slowing Philip Le shanok CBC News Toronto women's college basketball is capturing reco
rd TV ratings Clark running Clark eyes up behind the back through the lane lays it in why it's more than just a moment for women's sports a new report shows Canada's forests are in trouble so there was actually a fivefold um increase from loss due to fires and one woman gets a startling hug from an octopus I thought I was going to die back into officials on Northern Vancouver Island are trying to relocate this orphaned killer whale calf from where it's been stranded in a lagoon for nearly two we
eks all options to reunite it with its extended family are being considered including airlifting It Out by helicopter or transporting it in a holding pen on a truck as the rescue is planned the orca's health is being monitored and again in BC a North American First in Wildfire training The Province announced a dedicated Wildfire Education and Training Center in cam loops on the heels of last year's record Wildfire season the center will offer everything from uh basic training all the way through
to post-doctoral work on fire behavior and Science and through Wildfire training students will earn credits towards a degree BC Wildfire service and Thompson Rivers University will work together designing the program which could begin next year well that historic Wildfire season across this country last year is being blamed for wiping out Global progress when it comes to preserving the world's Forest Anan Ram explains why this year the fruits of Videl mono's labor are fewer and farther away bec
ause these forests that provide for him are burned by other Farmers to illegally clear land for more money-making crops some experts say past leadership look the other way conservation is a colonial line that the north wants to impose to the South we see that that discourse have become in many ways of policy Bolivia is one of a few countries called out in a new report on the state of protecting the world's forests weaker regulations there but stronger policies are showing progress nearby Pro env
ironment leadership in both Brazil and Colombia is changing those Forest fortunes and the data shows it compared to last year both countries had big declines in deforestation but the big outlier globally Canada's wildfires there was actually a um you know a a big increase five-fold um increase from loss due to fires in Canada from 2022 to 2023 and we wanted to make sure to highlight that in the report simply put the scale of Canada's fires made worse by climate change is limiting any progress in
Forest conservation it sometimes feels frustrating like some of that is canceled out by this larger issue that we're facing and with similarly dry conditions Canada looks primed for a repeat of last year we really should be focused on restoring forests that have already been impacted um and we really need to start planning to make our forest uh climate resilient uh for an uncertain future however experts stress that protecting the world's Forest through good policies can help combat climate cha
nge and bring back life and livelihood to these lungs of the Earth on dram CBC News Toronto more eyes than ever are on women's college basketball Edwards aggressive to the rim the athletes bringing the game to a bigger audience and Rosy's here with that issue hello you hey Adrien tonight we're going to talk about provinces pushing back on the latest pre-budget housing announcements if a province decides that no it doesn't want to be that ambitious we will just work directly with municipalities a
re these measures by the federal government an overreach Shantel Alia and Andrew join me to talk about that and a whole lot more just four days after from the highly anticipated solar eclipse veterinarians have a warning for pet owners if you are in the path of the celestial event remember it could all affect your animal too the big response that is reported is one of non-specific fear or anxiety simply because this is so uncertain vets are suggesting you keep your pets inside if at all possible
they add wild animals may act a bit strangely as well and we will have extensive coverage of the eclipse on Monday it all begins at 6:00 a.m. eastern on CBC News Network and then at 1:00 p.m. Eastern you can also tune in on CBC television or watch on CBC J well anticipation is also building for tomorrow's final four matchups in the NCAA Women's Basketball Tournament as Jamie stash shows us Superstars like Iowa's Caitlyn Clark are making this year's March Madness appointment viy claric eyes up b
ehind the back through the L there is no athlete generating more Buzz right now than the University of Iowa's Caitlyn Clark CL looking to turn the corner her team is set to take on the University of Connecticut in the semi-finals of the NCAA March Madness tournament on Friday clar again ticket prices are nearing ,000 more than the men's semifinal I think that really puts into perspective uh what exactly where Women's Basketball is going and the type of you know excitement around our game more th
an 12 million people watched the women's quarterfinal between Louisiana State University and IA more than every Major League Baseball game played last year Clark is one of a growing roster of college players making a name for themselves Edwards aggressive to theim including Kingston Ontario's Aaliyah Edwards who plays for Connecticut we're not only a hockey country we're trying to be a basketball country as well so um a lot of love up north and I appreciate all of you longtime University of Sask
atchewan and former Canadian national team coach Le Tas says all of it is good for the game but says calling this a moment diminishes Decades of work I don't like that because it seems you know it refers to something that's fleeting then I think for those of us who've been in women's basketball have you know recognized this for many years that this has been going on there's been no shortage of talent The increased Spotlight on not just basketball but also hockey and soccer could attract a new ge
neration of fans and athletes women can actually start to get to know these other women that are in the space because before it felt like out of sight out of mind because they weren't even visible to you so you didn't even know they existed and then aiah Edwards right here uses her footwork underneath the basket for those who spent a Lifetime Building the game it's a long time coming proving that it's not how you start it's how you finish Jamie stash CBC News Toronto now let's break down the wee
k in politics it's Thursday which means Rosy's here with that issue at issue this week Ottawa is promising new money for provinces and municipalities to help with housing and infrastructure but that cash comes with strings attached if the province doesn't want to step up with ambition on building the infrastructure needed to support more housing uh in general across the province we'll do it specifically with willing Partners some provinces say it's not for Ottawa to decide I'm going to leave tha
t up to each municipality to decide because they know better than the province and and the federal government so is Ottawa overreaching with these housing measures do political jurisdictions outweigh the need to address the housing crisis hi there I'm Rosary Barton here to break it down on at issue tonight shant Telly bear Al Andre coin and Alia Raj is back uh Alia because you're back I'm I'm going to start with you what what do you make of the way some provinces not all but some provinces have
responded to this um offer of money with some conditions in terms of how it should be used for zoning and and other other things well I think it's understandable that uh they would not want the federal government to interfere in their sphere of jurisdiction um they also don't want to be holding the bag of blame but I do think this is actually the strategy that the Liberals are welcoming because they want the prim minister to be cast as this defender of housing for all and the premier are the one
s standing in the way and so they're trying to make an issue that was an issue on which they were defensive now they're on the offensive and it's the premier's that housing is not getting done so this is It's almost like a dream scenario the liberal government H um has planned it it does seem like a a pretty big shift to Shantel over the past 10 days say when you know all we heard was that Justin Trudeau was responsible for housing problems and I'm sure we can we'll still hear that but but the s
cript as Alia points out has flipped a little yes uh there's been a change in tone in the Prime Minister he is a lot more aggressive in his answers not just on housing on just about everything I think there are liberal strategist who have come to the conclusion that it's impossible for Justin Trudeau to be more aggressive uh than PV his main opponent but bottom line if we are talking about how things work and how things get done uh the current federal strategy might be great on messaging but it
borders on federalism malpractice you are not going to get things done uh without some heavy degree of cooperation between levels of government and no amount of threats or saying I'm challenge you to do this or else I won't do this from the federal government is going to change that uh because jurisdictions are not just about what it says in the act the nor of North America they're also about practicalities as who has the levers to do what uh and in this instance housing um meals for kids Etc th
e provinces do sure but but let me take the housing accelerator example for instance there too provinces had issues with it so then uh the the federal governments just walked around and made deals with cities if they work with the cities what what is the problem for the provinces Shantel you can respond to that and then Andrew at this point the federal government is saying the cities will get more money for a with a meeting a variety of conditions I.E accepting the uh Charter for people who rent
accepting uh a change in their bylaws I'm not sure the federal government is equipped to exact that from every city in the country sure and in the province I live in the cities are not allowed to accept that money in any event without going through the KC government Andrew uh I mean the provinces are notorious dogs in the manger about you know their jurisdictional issues and they're never shy about uh deciding how the federal government should exercise its responsibilities or advising on it uh
but just because they're self-interested or a Turf Warriors it doesn't mean they're wrong uh people are I see people saying how can we get hung up on constitutional niceties at a time like this meaning the division of powers in the Constitution um but it's more than just you know legal mumbo jumbo there's some practical real is underlying it um it's not clear to me what the federal government knows about school lunches for example that the provinces don't I'm not clear that they have a special e
xpertise in rewriting um you know Municipal zoning laws um there's a reason why we do locate these things closer to the people and what we do know also from when the federal government does get heavily into provincial jurisdiction maybe with justification maybe with some good sides to it uh but if you look at the mess that Healthcare is in right now a large part of that is because there's no accountability there's such Blurred Lines but with with the Federal Government funding this and the provi
nces funding that and everybody pointing fingers at each other it makes it very hard to hold anybody to account or to get any change going on so there's a reason for these constitutional lines they're not just to satisfy lawyers they're to make for more effective government and when the federal government comes piling in like this it isn't just a matter that those Shantel is certainly right to say you're not going to get much done without provincial cooperation but even if you get it it's not cl
ear you're going to get better government out of it flip side yeah of that is that you know Pier Pia the conservative leader has been Prosecuting the case for more than a year that basically everything is Justin Trudeau's fault that if you don't have a house it's Justin Trudeau's fault that if your kids are hungry it's Justin Trudeau's fault and so in that way he's kind of given the Liberals a bit of leeway to enter into areas of provincial jurisdiction and are into areas that are not traditiona
lly seen as the role of the Federal Government to dictate terms in a way that I think gives him a little bit more cover and frankly this is an area where I would say most conservative uh sorry most liberal caucus members are actually supportive they are more Center left and these are things that they would like to see get done and they would like to see their government have a record and now it feels like he he's finally waging battle he being the Prime Minister here so um we can argue about wha
t's in the British North America Act and I think we will all agree about what's in the British North America Act but when it comes to people's perceptions They Don't Really Care which government is giving them X or Y they just want to know that it's happening I I don't that's not the point the point is you're not going to get any of this done unless the provinces and the municipalities engage yeah it's not a question of what's written anywhere the federal government unless Justin trud wants a se
cond job delivering sandwiches is not about to find which school needs more me and wheels or free lunches do that he's going to hand over money to the provinces and they are going to administer their system the fact is on a lot of issues actually we had a lot of provinces say no initially and then get to a yes like on child care for example so it's not necessarily um a no no like he doesn't have Partners to work with I think on some of the housing stuff what is interesting is where the provinces
are drawing the lines like in Ontario for example the Liberals are banking on the fact that people want housing and they're speaking to Millennials and generation Zed that want a house wherever it is whatever it looks like and the premier seems to be talking to older Canadians who live in suburbs and don't want to see if setups next to them who will win that battle I don't know but like there there are interesting nuances in that discussion too Andrew I don't disagree that p po has been just as
um you know willing to disregard the division of powers as the feds are as the Liberals are and I can see Justin trudo effectively picking taking Pier PA strategy or page out of his strategy by picking fights with people and I think that's what this is mostly about whether or not he gets the cooperation with the provinces I think I think the Liberals are living dayto day at this point and what they really need in the short term is to see the Prime Minister out fighting with people and showing s
howing you know D getting his dander up and I think that's mostly what this is about I I'm just saying it may be good politics I'm not at all clear it's good policy but Chantel doesn't the federal government have to try and do something given as althia said that they were they were wearing so much of the blame for housing or or or or or the way they in the in the old old days if you were going to do something efficient and you really believed that you were going to do it instead of having a summ
it on car thefts you would have called in the premieres and worked out the consensus on a way forward and listen to the points of views of people who are actually closer to the front line than you are but I agree with Andrew this is not about public policy this is about politics now that being said yes provinces will make deals to get money but time is running out and the temptation to wait out the Liberals at this point unless they get the bump in the polls from this is going to be increasingly
appealing to Premier Alia you want to last word there I will just say that on this um flurry of pre-budget announcements which are actually kind of rare it does make me wonder what's actually in the budget like it's a smart strategy to have the things that you want talked about and announced early because when there's too much you know it gets crowded out on the day of the budget but it kind of makes me wonder if there's a really bad piece of news that their they were worried would Crow out eve
rything else yeah well that see that's the journalist in you and that's why we'll see I guess we'll see okay we're going to leave this topic here when we come back though we'll take a look at the latest testimony at the foreign interference inquiry 5 to nine seats that I think were possibly changed as a result of foreign interference what's be made of allegations that Med cost conservative seats that's next at issue from the foreign interference inquiry former conservative leader Arin OU says me
ddling from China caused his party as many as nine seats I think there was enough misinformation and and voter suppression to perhaps change the outcome in as many as that but otou doesn't dispute the overall outcome of the election there were a number of reasons we lost but in some seats where there was evidence of of misinformation and interference we continued to work with officials quietly behind the scenes so what's been made of the latest testimony from the inquiry and the former conservat
ive leader let's bring back everybody Shantel Andrew and Alia Andrew I'll start with you what let's talk about Mr OU's claims there specifically um it also be it's also become apparent over a few days now that it doesn't seem like information was being shared with the people it needed to be shared with or or dealt with properly but but give me your reaction to to what Mr UL said well I I see no reason to disagree uh with his estimate of five to nine seats possibly being having been affected by t
his I don't know whether he's right or not uh I'm a little less persuaded that saw him saying in some circles that he might have held onto his job as leader if he' got those seats I'm not sure that was where the party was was at uh but even if it didn't flip any seats even if it didn't change a single vote uh it's really really troubling to see the level of interference which I think by now is incontestable uh and the many different varieties of it whether it was spreading misinformation campaig
ns whether it was as it's been alleged uh you know Channel channeling funding to selected candidates whether it was placing staffers uh close to candidates who would be helpful to the Chinese cause um you know there's a whole range of these different things and they're all really really troubling quite apart from the fate of arot or the conservative party for that matter and across party lines I think that's fair to say as well that we we heard from conservatives an NDP MP a liberal obviously a
former liberal Shantal I'm guessing on the politics of it uh one of the questions that uh will be asked over the next few days is whether Justin Trudeau himself knew about this possibility or had been briefed further than um his own campaign manager uh but what I otherwise found more interesting was the not Mr OU's contention which isn't new and which may be based in fact or not uh but the notion that none of the campaign managers were briefed beyond the usual do not click on this link cyber sec
urity 101 uh from the committee That was supposed to oversee the election and that got me thinking that you know the birds I view of federal campaigns with an eye to foreign interference can't possibly work because if you're sitting at bird level it's not happening there it's happening at ground level and unless you want to pay attention to what's happening in selected writings you're not going to be effective in warning parties that something is actually happening that is serious so I think the
entire notion that um civil servants high up uh and security people high up will get together and be able to watch uh and supervise the election doesn't really work unless you involve people who have actually been in campaigns and run campaigns yeah I mean that does seem to be sort of the the the recurring thing here Alia that the people who were involved in things from the candidates to the to the campaign managers they're the ones being affected by it and and either they they weren't told tha
t there were risks or when they tried to raise alarm Bells like Michael Chong said yesterday they didn't even really get a response which which seems just bananas I think when you think about it bassing yeah I think there's a few things to kind of pull apart first is it's clear that the parties rather not treated like their concerns were serious and not enough information was shared I think that's obvious I don't know if you can really say that the conservatives lost five to nine seats because o
f Chinese interference Mr UL talked about the vaccine mandate maybe those Chinese Canadians were more worried about the vaccine mandate than they worried about the conservative stance on the weager for example who knows you I don't think we can determine that one thing that struck out from Mr ul's testimony was when he said that Danel Jan who was the former National Security advis of the Prime Minister had overstepped his bounds when he talked about Indian foreign interference affecting the prim
e minister's disaster strip to India and then that was completely inappropriate but he felt that it was appropriate for him to demand that the the nonpartisan public serving committee overseeing elections that he felt he should have been stronger in demanding that they call the whistle in the middle of an election to say that there was foreign interference happening in some writings yeah you know you can have it both ways so where is the line and maybe that line is not clear enough for everybody
involved maybe that threshold needs to be explored but at the moment it seems like the commission because it's so much crowded in secrecy it's really hard to even be able to understand what's following if you don't have access to the classified information so I don't know I feel like we're going to be left from this feeling very unsatisfied and a lot of the answers that we probably need Clarity on that the parties need Clarity on I don't know if we will get that notel and then Andrew I still th
ink it's a a more useful public service to have this commission than the notion from the special repor report that there was nothing to see there it at least shows um the unseriousness from where I sit looking at what I heard of the efforts to uh watch for foreign interference in the election yeah it also puts some scrutiny Andrew probably rightly so on on how intelligence is gathered and shared and and how uh the bar for what gets shared is determined too well we're finding yeah I mean we're st
ill still to come is of course what you know who knew what went higher up but even what we found out so far not just about what was shared with people but what information the investigators had uh so we found you know we had testimony I forget was it the the chief electoral commissioner saying you know I I was tried to investigate it but I really didn't have the authority to do X or Y and so I didn't get very far um the penalties for people who had broken the laws on on this thing are ridiculous
ly slight um we're finding out we knew a lot about this already but having it sort of rubbed in our faces about the absolute free-for-all of party nomination races the where you don't in the liberal case not only do you not have to be a member of the party you don't have to be an adult and you don't have to be a citizen of the country czen so busloads of foreign students come in and help decide who gets nominated in a safe riding and therefore who gets uh who gets become the MP um so I think wha
t all this is showing is just how complacent we have been how inadequate uh our laws and regulations and procedures are in dealing with this and as I say still to come possibly we'll find out what was going on in the higher Circles of government while all this was going on yeah and I should say we are going to hear from the prime minister in front of that inquiry tomorrow uh not tomorrow next week so we'll probably talk about it again next week would be my guess but I'll leave things there there
for now thank you all very much with that I'll send things back to Adrian in Toronto thank you Rosie next an octopus gets a little too close for comfort I can feel the weight of his body how one woman untangled herself in this situation in Our Moment well that's a pretty scary site an octopus hanging tight to a woman's leg in Victoria and Katherine dooli was certainly worried about what might happen next but slowly the Duos started to warm up to each other have developed a kind of unlikely frie
ndship their maybe unbreakable bond is Our Moment B please don't hurt me he's on my leg I was terrified because I looked down I was in octopus soup and he had his tentacles wrapped around both my legs and the grip was so strong it felt like I was getting my blood pressure taken on my calves I was shaking and I thought that was it I thought I was going to die I thought he was going to spray me with that venomous die and there was no escaping all of a sudden I just told myself okay I have to calm
down I'm G to have a heart attack and then miraculously enough he calmed himself down and then he loosened his grip and then he floated away a little bit I had so many comments saying P him P him pet him and I'm like my God I'm so afraid I did I pet him I watched his horn stand up and he seemed to enjoy it and I kind of felt this really weird connection with him I guess I've had about 10 encounters with him now like I'm actually starting to fall in love with this guy he's like a little ocean pup
py he comes to me and just me no one else I'm the chosen one okay I don't know about the chosen one but that giant Pacific octopus uh is certainly a gentle soul and lucky here I I'm fairly sure I might have passed out right there on the spot if you'd done that to me from all of us at the national thank you for being with us you can watch anywhere anytime on the free CBC News app And subscribe to the Nationals YouTube channel I'm Adrian Arseno take care
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