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Championing Change- DUHR Podcast: EP.1 Education is a right!

We are quite excited to introduce the very first episode of Championing Change: Dayton United for Human Rights Podcast!! On this episode we discuss the right to education with Shelly Davies, the Community Engagement & Outreach manager for Preschool Promise and Maya Dorsey, the Director of K12 strategies for Learn To Earn Dayton. We would like to thank our guests for the time and wisdom that they've shared with us all!! Please tune in for some wonderful conversation and share your thoughts with us below in the comments. Want to listen to this episode while you're on the go? Check us out on Podbean: 🎙https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-vjjvk-1583f9e Intro video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1ZJRInLvyU Check out @TAPPChannel for some awesome drone shots! Background Designed by Freepik

Dayton United for Human Rights

13 days ago

[Music] [Music] Education is a right Hi I'm Shelly Davies and  I am the senior Marketing and Outreach manager for Preschool Promise Preschool Promise started as a  part of learn turn with my friend Maya here and we became our own separate entity in 2017 and our  goal is for every Montgomery County child to be ready School ready day one and how we do that is  we have supports for families we have supports for teachers and we have supports for those children  themselves help them be successful and
Equity is at the heart of everything that we do. So my  name is Maya Dorsey I'm the director of K12 strategies at Learn to Earn Dayton um just like Shelly said you know our job is to take the good work that they've done early at the preschool  level and take it through our um Milestones our K12 milestones and so we really focus on um  you know K Readiness and third grade reading and eighth grade math and all those different  Milestones along the way. Article 26 of the Universal Declaration of H
uman Rights discusses  the right to education What does the right to education mean to you? When you look at that  right and it says that everyone's entitled to that right in the education it should be equal it  should be free it should be available to everyone um it should be good quality and it should be  regardless of your economic status, of your ethnic background. Any of those other determinating  factors and I think that we all can realize that that's really isn't the case, like free and 
available to everyone is not also equal um that's where a lot of the um inequities of education  come into it um and they start right away they start with availability for affordable and high  quality prechool which is probably the reason why Preschool Promise became um who we are to begin  with um in short there's a lot of people who never attend preschool and I always tell anytime I  talk about this I always say that I didn't attend preschool and on the first day of kindergarten  I came home a
nd I said "all those kids knew each other" and my mom said "preschool's for rich kids"  and you think that it's really not but for a lot of people they either don't know how to access it  or they have no way to pay for it and daycare is expensive Child Care is expensive and preschool  is expensive for families and so Preschool Promise is trying to initially eliminate that  barrier and helping families pay for preschool and helping them find high quality preschool  and that was just the beginning
of what we were looking at so just to start that's in inequity  that continues and will continue. Absolutely, you know the issue is that um children should have the  right to a public education regardless of you know race economic status zip code um and so that's we really focus on to Learn to Earn we realized that you know one of the things that we say is  that Talent is everywhere but opportunities are not and so as a backbone organization our focus  is trying to figure out ways to provide th
ose different resources and opportunities to support  the 16 school districts here in the county um in whatever way they need as a support to really try  to eradicate that data right so we just realized that kids can't help where they're born they can't  help where they live so everybody has the right to a high quality education every student  and so you know our focus is making sure that not only do we get them ready to start school in kindergarden but we want them to also graduate high school
we want them to go into career, go into workforce and  we want to make sure that those opportunities are possible. So you know as a parent myself um I will  say you know 8 years ago we decided to move from one community um to another and that was because  I really; every parent wants their children to have the best that they can provide I I have  not met one parent who was like no I want my kid to have the worst, every parent wants their child  to have the best it's just unfortunate that you kno
w the best isn't the standard everywhere and so  that's where we have work to do as a community to make sure that we eliminate those conditions that  prevent students from having the best educational experience possible because those opportunities  just like for my own two children um I realized was not available in one school district and  so me being an educator you know my husband and I we had to make a decision to move our kids  to a different community and that's unfortunate because we we l
ike the community that we lived  in but we realized that there was limitations and so you know when we say talent is everywhere  opportunities are not that goes for my children too I want my children to have the right to as  many opportunities for them to be exposed for them to not only have their own skills and talents  nurtured but think about things that maybe they haven't even considered and so that's where we  have to as a education system do better you know one of the things that Geoffrey
Canada says is that  you know education is a billion dollar industry and it's the only industry that allows that  failure you know that's okay with failure and so you know I see our job at Learn to Earn to  try to help eliminate, raise awareness, advocate so that we can really make sure the pathway  for children are better Resources and Equity I think the resources is an issue right. So just like I cited you know for the school district that my children were in you know 8/9 years ago they only h
ave so many resources available you see that with even like the Arts. The Arts are not available like it was when I was growing up in all schools you know because  it's all about budgeting it's about you know do we have the budget to have certain programs  So again you can have a student who's musically inclined you know that cannot get that nurtured  in their particular school and so I mean that's a minor example of an inequity but again you know  depending on where schools are you know, zip co
de wise may also determine access opportunities,  exposure, field trips, all different types of things but we know that the the socio-economic gap is  real and um we just continue to see it perpetuate right now we know that around um 62/  63% of students in Montgomery County are third grade reading proficient, Why is that? That's not enough  um we need to have 100% of students reading proficient and so that proficiency should not be  determined based off of where you live it should not be determ
ined based off the school you go to  um right now we see post COVID that there are so many schools that don't have qualified teachers in the  classroom, licensed teachers in the classroom um we see a lot of Subs that are in the classrooms and  so again when we talk about high quality when we talk about opportunities, when we talk about you  know making sure that students have what they need to be successful those are some barriers  and you know unfortunately a lot of times those barriers persist
in certain economic areas you  know that are to no fault of the children you know I I totally agree with that the resources Maya and  I were talking about that um before we started that's what we find with a lot of families as  well is that and I totally completely agree is parents want to do the best for their children so  they are looking for them and there's so much, it's very earnest on families to keep fighting  for the resources that should be available for their children and that's where
there's a lot  of advocacy that also goes into um the both of the work that we both do and um and resources is  part of that because you in especially now in this post-pandemic world that we're living in so when  I'm I'm looking at preschool again these are these are the pandemic babies who are in preschool now  and there are not enough resources for the amount of need that these children need to have in order to be successful  in preschool and that is not just in the family child care it's it'
s not in our our community  providers it's also in the schools themselves and so it's really difficult for parents to be able  to navigate their way through knowing that their child needs some more resources so they could be  successful asking for those resources and also sometimes hearing from schools we don't have the  availability to service your children your child for all the sour the resources that they need and  quite frankly that they're entitled to that's part of the advocacy work that
we do I had mentioned  equity before and part of that Equity is um the equity of accessing helping people know what their  rights are and being able to access those rights so um a lot of what we do I um I can speak for  Preschool Promise we have a lot of focus groups and a lot of family committees parent family  voices I I run a parent advisory committee and they tell us what it's like trying to navigate  in different parts of of um the school and and just recently the conversation was about hav
ing  children who have diagnosis having children who are um being um referred to be um to go through  a diagnostic evaluation so that they can qualify for services and because of the limitations of  Staff because of the limitations of resources of the schools sometimes they can't even get that  um evaluation done and they know my child is not does not have everything they need to be able to  be successful and so that really starts to um it's like a pebble into a classroom so if you have a  child
who's not getting the resources they need to be successful it also the teachers then who  are trying to um accommodate that child the best they can they often don't have the resources that  they need and so that just becomes a difficult situation for all the children in that classroom  and it's difficult because I think for a lot of families they um they start to get disillusioned  and that's not the best way for them to then enter into the K12 school and and think what it's  to it's too diffic
ult and sometimes parents harden themselves to it as well they don't want  to know that their child needs more things because they tried to access it before and they were  unsuccessful um so that I when I think about a lot of the advocacy work that we do it has to do with  resources and um the other part of it that I'll just bring up now is another part of equity that  we talk about is racial equity and particularly for our children of color and particularly for  our black boys we've done a lot
of a lot of um work and a lot of listening of how to help the  black boys be successful because um they are only leading in preschool they only lead with one  percentage and it's expulsions and it really has to do with how their behavior  is perceived and often times implicit bias that teachers have that quite frankly we  all have and sometimes we're not aware of it the bias that they're bringing to that is making  that that behavior look worse than it is because of who is having that behavior.
I would like to  share something that came out of the committee to um make preschool classrooms black  boy friendly and it was it was a group of 15 men um leaders from around the city and county  Montgomery County and city of Dayton and they came up with different recommendations of how what  that would look like moving forward and one of the things that was determined one of the phases  was to um have site ambassadors so they're called black boy brilliant site ambassadors and they are  um partn
ered with preschool classrooms and um we have providers that we partner with and of those  122 there's different sites where somebody will partner and it's putting an adult black male into  that classroom for several reasons one there's very few men in early childhood education and two  there's even fewer men of color that are in early childhood education and so it gives children an  opportunity. What is familiar to you is no longer scary to you and um there's one um  gentleman in particular he
was one of the first ones that started, today we had an annual lunch  in where we shared information with key holders and supporters of preschool promise and he  said what I love about it is that they are seeing a black man who is just somebody they might see at  the store or he comes in and he's taught them how to put a fish tank together I'm not a celebrity  I'm not an athlete I this is who I am and it's a really great environment for them to see and  there there's five boys in that classroom
and even the teacher said I've noticed how much  they're talking to each other because when Mr Chris comes they want to talk to him and then the  peer-to-peer conversations were going on as well and it's just normalizing things that sometimes in  our um in our country are things that you um don't necessarily have normalized for you um especially  when when things are put on social media and on regular media so that has been part of the  the black boy brilliance has been really helpful for um try
ing to right some of those inequities  when it comes to race and how it is impacting our youngest learners, to help set them up for success  so that when they get to kindergarten they've been able to have that successful preschool experience  and and then continue on through their K12 career and at Learn to Earn we want to be able to continue  to sustain that impact you know um again we see on the Cradle to Career Continuum we see that  Preschool Promise is on the front end of that from birth th
rough preschool up to kindergarten and  then we see us as okay taking that and trying to continue to support the students down that Milestone  all the way through um you know graduation career going to college you know whatever they decide and  so that work that they do is very important so we really are partners sometimes people probably  um I know for me they interchange preschool promise and Learn to Earn together because we  were together at one point but I see us still as um a collaborative
partner and and a necessity  to one another's work so um it's it's really great to have that collaboration and really respect  the work that's being done. Because it's going to continue there if you look at the success the  percentage of children who attended preschool the percentage of children who pass the third grade  reading proficiency the percentage of children who who graduate from high school the percentage of  children go on to college it's the same percentage it's that it follows thro
ugh and um something  you had asked earlier was what does that look like on the state level um I think it's it's  challenging I think that the governor um he talks about how important it is that we need to put we  need to fund our early childhood education we need to fund our um people who are providing child  care and I don't doubt that he feels strongly about that but then as it goes through  what does that look like when we get down to the dollars and cents of it it doesn't equal and so  that
again is where that advocacy comes and it's important for people when you talk about how can  people support how can they be a part of this is that I think it's always important for us all to  remember that the elected officials do work for us and it's important to say this is something that  is important to my family it's important to my community in which I live um and just just don't  let off that pressure on them to keep it in front of them. And families have the power parents have  the pow
er right and so as they come together and they really understand the importance of the "why?" um then they can advocate I think there's power in that, you know imagine going to the state house and it's parents that are up there that are leading the charge and saying we want this we want change  you know if it's parents going into the school board meetings collectively and saying that these are  the things that we want for our children there's power in that and so the more that we can again  supp
ort families to understand the importance and the significance of advocacy um I think the  more gains we can make in terms of student achievement. Advocacy So I mean just piggy backing off of that  when you talk about advocacy. Advocacy is very very important um it's important because you know  when I was in school many years ago. When I was in elementary school many years ago um you know  it was kind of like felt by parents you know I send my kids in school they'll get an education  they're goi
ng to do what my kid needs to to you know teach them what they need to learn and then  my kid comes home um but we're in a different day you know we're in a different day which means that  it is everyone's responsibility we have to be all hands on deck and parents don't know what they  don't know you know and so we make assumptions to in the education space that parents should  know certain things um they should know you know about chronic absenteeism they should know you  know to send their kid
s to preschool they should know you know um about the KRA for kindergarten  Readiness and begin to um teach them the different developmental things that need to be prepared for  for kindergarten so when you talk about advocacy it's important for us you know in this space to  also lift that idea up of like, let me help inform you so that if you know better then  you're going to be able to use that knowledge and that awareness to support your children and so  um the focus groups we've done that um
and Learn to Earn you know we have focused on place  based work um in the last couple years within Northwest Dayton um partnership but in that we  hear that same feedback well I didn't know you know I didn't know you know that suspension led  up to you know these outcomes I didn't know if my child missed you know one day a month that is  going to lead up to these consequences. They don't know and so I think the more that we can inform and we can  collaborate and be in partnership with families
and really recognize that this is a community work  this is not just on Educators to educate our kids and that's it. I think COVID definitely disrupted  that whole idea because now the gaps are so wide academically that it's going to take  more than you going to school 5 days a week to close that gap it takes for parents to understand  okay these are the things that my student needs to know it takes parents to understand when they  take tests why is that important we tell parents you know read t
o your child every night, well read  what? Right, why do I have to read 20 minutes what is it going to do? Or we tell parents you  know to make sure your child gets sleep before they take a test or make sure they go to bed early  but then we don't know how to necessarily read the test they don't know how to interpret the test  so the paper comes home it comes in an email you're like oh great I see a number I see this  but I don't know what that means when you say um how my child what my child's
percentile is um  in reading or math and so I think that education and that advocacy piece and also informing our  families on what the policies are you know you know election time comes and all these different  ballots and stuff are up and parents are asked to vote Yes or No on certain issues but they don't  really understand what those implications mean for their children so I think we have to do a better  job as a community of informing the families so that they can really make authentic deci
sions but also  be in partnership with the people who are trying to serve them and serve their children. When is the right time to start thinking about preschool? Really it starts at birth. Parents are the first  teachers for their children and sometimes parents don't know like when does preschool start when  should I start looking for it and um a good resource is a pediatrician another good resource is other um benefits that you might have um if you're ever if you're working with Help Me Grow 
or if you go to libraries that we tend to put information for people in all the places where  families might be so they're at Health Centers they're at libraries, we go to food banks um we  go to parks we interact with people at splash pads um and start that conversation and a lot of times  people say oh I haven't even thought about it when when should I be thinking about preschool? How old  is your baby? She's three. Perfect this is the time to start thinking about it. But prior to that it's  j
ust connecting them with ideas of read to your baby that's a great thing to do um interacting  with other kids having free free things that are available all across the city are a good place for  that learning because learning for youngest children also starts with play it it looks like play. And  sometimes you don't know where to go you don't know these resources exist I would say since  I've come to Learn to Earn I've learned so much that I'm like had I known this when my children  were younge
r they could have had an even better start right. I did the best I could with what I  knew but parents don't always know where to go so even calling the school district and saying hey  when does preschool start when does kindergarten what should I be doing the school can guide you  and say okay call like she said help me girl call preschool promise or call and so I think if  parents absolutely don't know then you can still call the school district and they will point you  in the right direction
but a lot of times parents just don't know they don't know it's like you know  maybe they had a conversation with someone and said oh my child is in preschool oh yeah where you  know and then from there you pick up the phone you call and you say okay well can my child sign up or  well they need to do these things first so I think you know it's also as as Shelly said you know being  in the environment um having play dates for kids and talking to other parents because you don't know  things are di
fferent now um than they were when I was growing up things are going to be different  in 20 years when my kids are having kids right and so the more that we create this community of  support um and a safe environment where we can ask the questions um and I think the school wants  that they want they want children to come sooner they want to provide those interventions as early  as possible so I'm say at the very least if you don't know where to start call your local school  district and ask them
to point you in the right direction. Are there any resources for low income  parents? There are a few things. So if you have a parent who's not working or if  they have little to no income, Head Start is a good place for those children to be and Head Start in  Dayton is called MVCDC um and that can start their infinite toddler locations there and they provide  transportation they're really a good catch for um for families who possibly there's not  a lot of a good variety of choices for them and
then as you go from there there's publicly funded  Child Care. Parents are working and they need something that kind of mirrors more like a child  care setting but they also want that preschool component of it. The publicly funded Child Care  helps pay for that but doesn't pay for everything there's a co-pay and that's where Preschool Promise  comes in. If a parent has publicly funded child care we help by paying their co-pay and then you  have the parents who we have this conversation all the
time. I make too much I don't qualify for  anything I don't have anything extra to pay for preschool and that is a part of Preschool Promise  that's been there from the beginning that there's tuition assistance it's based on family size it's  based on their income and everybody qualifies for it and that does help that final barrier  for people finding somewhere. Final Takeaways It is your absolute right to get the best  education possible you so continue to advocate for it. Ask the tough questio
ns um you know stand up  for your children um I think that's the best thing and like and like Shelly said, it starts at birth  it's never too late you know um you you have an opportunity all the way through 12th grade  to figure it out and I think sometimes parents get discouraged um but ask the questions for  your children and also if it doesn't seem right there's a reason and the other thing I would  say about that is you know your child better than anybody else does and so if it if you're  th
inking I just don't think that I'm getting that my child is getting everything that they need  to be successful push and sometimes the kids will tell you right so believe them. So we'll end with I  think we all in agreement that education is a human right. Absolutely! We thank you for coming  and we appreciate your time. Thank you! [Music]

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