No pensioners, on a burning planet. Pensions, climate, same fight. It was the same system that we were fighting, the system that wanted to make people
work for longer, is the same system that wants us to work, work, work,
produce, produce, produce. And we never ask ourselves
why we want to produce. The idea was to use techno, and to maybe revolutionise a
little bit, the way in which we protest. There are as many ways of protesting as there are people,
so we can all find a way of protesting that
suits us. I'm Samuele Maccolini, I'm in Paris. Strolling
down these boulevards has always had great charm but these streets can sometimes
turn into trenches. In 2023, the demonstrations against the pension reform
sparked a huge collective movement. We're going to meet the people who brought it
to life by dancing and singing. Let's go. Do you remember this video? No pensioners on a burning planet! Pensions, climate, same fight! Mathilde Caillard's techno dance went viral
even beyond France. With
this song, Alternatiba
united the social struggle with the environmental one because, as the song says,
"you can't have pensioners on a burning planet". Now let's see if Mathilde
still remembers the choreography. "Hi!"
"Hi Mathilde!" Welcome to Alternatiba Paris. Why do you think your video
went viral? We were going through quite a difficult time
in France, where we'd been demonstrating for a month or two and
a lot of people were on strike. Maybe there was a little feeling of desperation and I t
hink
it gave people hope. We said to ourselves we often demonstrate in France for lots of different reasons,
and using techno and maybe revolutionising the way in which we
protest would attract more people and
there wouldn't just be the same people once again, with the same activists who
are used to demonstrating. We would perhaps attract a new type of public, notably young people who
listen to a lot of techno music, who might come, at first because
they are attracted to the idea of doing like a
techno parade, and in fact, once they arrive, they are exposed to the political discourse
behind it, and they read people's posters, they read
everything that is written around them. And in fact, it's a way of getting people
involved in the politics of it and bringing people in by touching them
emotionally. Lots of people didn't neccessarily understand
to begin with, because they thought
because I danced, it wasn't serious. When you fight, when you resist,
there's something joyful about it, the
re's something powerful. We refuse to give in,
we refuse to sacrifice ourselves, we refuse to stay in the shaddows,
where the system wants to keep us. There's something about...
regaining power, demonstration. And in fact, it really inspired people, people who had lost hope,
people who thought that demonstrating wasn't for them,
who were scared of demonstrating. In France, there is lots and lots of police violence during
protests and in the end it has worked. Lots of people got back to us, lots
of people wrote to me and said
"It's given me new hope", "Now, I've gone back to demonstrating" "even though I've never been,
or I didn't want to go anymore." I brought with me, the clothes
that I wear for demonstrations. This is the Alternatiba Paris jumper. That's the name of the organisation
I'm part of in Paris, and we also wore these sunglasses, that we put on when we danced. So that's the music we created during the protests
against the pension reform. To begin with it was a political slog
an which just said "no pensioners, on
a burning planet", "pensions, climate, same fight".
And in fact, the aim was to explain that they couldn't
impose a pensions reform and make people work for longer and
longer whilst we're in a ... (there, that's exactly what it's saying) in a world that is in the process of collapsing
and where in fact there is no future at all, because there is no
future for the climate. And so it's exactly what we were saying, "no pensioners on a burning planet", "pensions
, climate, same fight". And it was to explain that it was the same system that we were fighting,
the system that wants to force people to work for longer, it's the same system that wants
us to work, work, work, produce, produce,
produce. And we never ask ourselves why we
want to produce. And we also talk about taxing the rich because one of the ways in which we
can finance an ambitious green transition and a world in which can all live better, is to share. And sharing means taxing the people
wit
h the most money, the super rich,
the billionaires, who, today, benefit from huge advantages and who don't
share enough of their wealth. And so we also say "tax the rich", voilà. We want to tax the rich, we will
tax the rich, we want to tax the rich, we will tax the rich. Can we effectively unite during demonstrations without necessarily resorting to violence? It's about resisting and protesting using a means which shows people what
we're fighting for, it's more moving, it's more desirable,
it's
more appealing. There is a long history between
music and activism, of rebelling,
of fighting for social causes. Historically, the techno movement was a subculture movement of
oppressed people. It was a queer movement, it was
a movement led by people who were rejected, who were
ostracized from society, and the
techno and free party movement, was a space where everyone was welcome. So it was a space for reclaiming,
of freedom, of self-expression too. It was a lovely gesture to reuse techno today
, in 2023, in the context of
the fight for both the climate and also social
issues, for living conditions, for salaries,
for the retirement age. There are as many ways of protesting
as there are people. Therefore, we can all find a way that suits us, to protest. And I think that's what people
liked about it as well, the realisation that, in fact,
we don't have to stay in the shackles of the status
quo, I can break ranks and protest
my own way. I think that also really appealed
to people. "Thank
you Mathilde."
"Thank you." "Bye bye." "See you next time." During the demonstrations in France
there wasn't just dancing to techno music. Demonstrators in blue overalls
from the feminist collective Les Rosies invented choreography for groups of people.
We're going to go and meet them. "Hello." "Ciao, ciao."
"Welcome" This here is a room, a workshop, where we
build the props for our protests. And so this is the birthplace of the
Les Rosies processions in France. And so you can see here for examp
le, the giant Rosie which is on our
trucks during the marhces. Who is Rosie? So Rosie, is a character inspired by Rosie the Riveter, who is a character
from the United States. She's the famous... the famous character that we see doing that, on American posters. So the idea is that she is wearing
blue overalls like me, blue work overalls and
a red headscarf, which is a direct reference to the Amercian
figure, Rosie the Riveter. And then some cleaning gloves, to
reference the second job that women
do,
when they come home from work. And that's to say "we don't want
retirement at 64 years old." We are strong, we are proud! and feminist, and radical,
and angry! We created the Rosies specifically
for this event, for these six months of demonstrations.
We said to ourselves, we've got to bring the specific subject of feminism
to the demonstrations, because work is not
just associated with men, women work too,
women work more than men, since they actually work
during the day at their jobs, and
then in the evening or on the weekend
at home, doing domestic work. And so we said to each other, in fact, pensions is a womens fight, because women suffer
all their lives at work, and also when they have
children, and then in retirement these inequalities are increased,
since their careers have been cut back, meaning they have disrupted careers that are
interrupted by the fact that they have children to take care of. Often they do part-time jobs to be able
to continue looking after their childr
en. Can I see one of your choreographies? I'm going to talk to you about the
choreograpy for the Gala song. So the idea is that, at the beginning
we are in the process of... there are lots of fighting
movements like that, we break something over our knees
and then we say that the government is lying. So we say, it's all just talk,
just bla bla bla, stop your bla bla bla. We also have a lot of things like that
like, "we won't accept it" And then we have a lot of things
like that, with the raised
fist. With the yellow gloves, we can clearly
see what's going on during the demonstrations. So we have things that lift up,
like that, up there, and then it comes down to the side,
and we repeat the same movements over and over, because it has to be very simple,
so that anyone can learn the moves and feel able to dance. Pa-pa-pa-la-pa. Yeah, when we dance we're stronger. When we dance together,
we're stronger in fact. And so dance is our way of occupying
the space, of using our bodies, but not u
sing
our bodies for entertainement. That's really important. We're not there so that people
can watch us and admire us. We're there to show our strength,
our collective strength, together, our strength and our determination in
the demonstrations to carry our fight. Our last protagonist of French
protests doesn't dance, but instead plays the guitar.
Laurent has lead marches with his songs, sung at the top of their voices,
by his fellow trade unionists. We don't want any more gimmicks! Hi Laurent!
"Hi! How are you?"
"Good thanks. Happy to meet you." Welcome. Why can playing the guitar
become a creative form of protesting? We have the musical compotent,
which is kind of like our trademark, we have developped
the habit of pinching from international and French
pop and rock songs and applying them to current
social issues. There are a lot of very heavy
issues at the moment, and it's how we create a contrast
with these heavy subjects. Our lyrics are very serious
but with a humouristic tone w
hich allows, without going so far as
to say "we go to marches to party", with regards to the image, as well as the violence which can develop
at demonstrations, but to try and offer a way for our comrades to join us
at the demonstrations, in a nice atmosphere,
and to have a nice time together, but also to shout out in the street,
the things that aren't listened to. That's what's important for us. Young people who come and say to us,
hey, can we have your songbook? Can we come and sing with the
m
icrophone? That's also what's important,
to keep the flame alive. Yes, in the fight.
We are, everyday. So come on, we'll show them! That plus that, before
our numbers must be strengthened. We have about 40 or so songs,
which have been used in about 10 demonstrations in Paris, down the
big streets. And then, in technical terms, we have,
in terms of capacity, let's say, guitars of this type, so that
we can play live music. That's also what attracts the audience. We don't just put on pre-recorded
s
ongs. And then, what's left to say? Just that people really appreciate
having some live music. We also have percussion instruments which are spread through the crowd,
to accompany the live music. Retirement, zombies, zombies, zombies,
eh eh eh. You can't forget that, of course,
the main way to resist is not going out into the streets
or singing in the streets. It's to have an impact on the
economy. So the first lesson, is to use all means,
including strikes, when necessary. That's what establish
es the balance of power
and what allows you to win. So, if our alternative expression in a musical mode, can reinforce,
including the ability of friends to say I'm not alone when I go
and demonstrate, there are people there, and, in a way, you have a good time, which allows us to get into the company,
to support the social movement within the
company. In any case, we hope we've
shown you today that effectively, there are
other alternative means which aren't, as I said, neccessarily an end in the
mselves,
but which are complimentary means of reinforcing the fraternity
in a social movement, to allow us to resist in the
face of the different attacks which threaten our rights today,
with a clear line of conduct: they don't understand when we talk,
so we're going to sing to them. That's our watchword. So we consider that this way, if, of course, it doesn't exclude
all the others, is an extra card in our hand, for
the resistance, social resistance.
Comments
that's awesome to see a good interview with people who saw in viral short videos. A very uplifting story, thank you very much!!!
"Retraites, climat, même combat" was definitely a banger!!