if you were giving your friend advice
on their love life chances are you're giving pretty good love advice but chances
are you're not following it yourself and I think true wisdom is like knowing what sets you
up for long-term success and actually following it Gary do people really know what they want
in a partner that's the question we're going to be discussing today and right before I just
pressed play in this podcast we just discussed how we really don't want to sound like jerks on
this
podcast so we got to soften it up a little bit make it you know make it palatable for people
because you know at the end of the day when we're talking about these things it's It's Tricky when
you're single and dating and you have one vision of what you think you might want but from our
perspective as coaches sometimes we need to reframe those beliefs and reframe those ideas to
guide people to success I don't know am I am I explain that correctly yeah no I I think it comes
down to something
we talk about a lot which is you know we have this perspective of tough love that
you know like sometimes you have to just confront reality in a way that's not always comfortable
um but it's done with a lot of love and it's it's coming from a place of like nurturing and
growth and and being kind of pushed outside of your comfort zone it's like exactly why you hire
a personal trainer right it's you don't hire a personal trainer to be like you're perfect you're
just so great you're you're ju
st wonderful the way you are like let's love are so sexy oh yeah so
you know we don't want to be like you don't know exactly what you're talking about or anything but
it's like you know there's just some things that people often think they know about approaching
dating that they actually don't know and through this podcast you're going to learn a little bit
about that and it's going to help you recalibrate and uh be a little bit more clear about how to
get what you want yeah and I think we
just have such a unique perspective on this because we
have a lot of personal experience working with so many clients and I would say one of the most
transformational things that we do when we work with clients is helping them go from thinking they
want one thing when they join to then reframing and rethinking about what leads them to long-term
success and kind of redirecting them honestly it's like you kind of sell them on the dream which we
want them to have that Ultimate Dream but the wa
y to get there kind of changes once they're in it
sounds crazy to admit that but that is really what we do and at the end of the process they are
like thank God I'm I'm I'm I followed this because previously I was just going for all the wrong
stuff I thought I wanted something different and many times it's just kind of like redirecting
them from people from looking for shortterm satisfaction to long-term results and kind of
like rethinking ultimately what it is that they they want so I'm ex
cited about this yeah because
when you ask Mo most women you know what do you want in a partner like everybody when you ask ask
them what they want about anything they want like this dream like what do you want out of life I
want to be rich like who doesn't want to be rich right yeah you know what do you want what do you
want in a partner I want somebody that makes six figures is six foot tall right has six pack abs
and is super emotional like and it's like all this of course of course that
's what everybody wants
but you know you know that you're not going to find or you're not finding those things and you're
not really looking for the right things if you're constantly feeling like dating and relationships
are confusing like you have relationships that start out great then fizzle out if you're having
a hard time picking the right Partners if you just finding like guys aren't out there or if you just
kind of think men are hard to figure out like all of those are signs that you
're not quite properly
calibrated with knowing what you're looking for and knowing what you really want in a partner
yeah exactly and so that's really what we'll be getting into today is diving into just kind of
like refocusing our energy to the right places so walk us through it Gary yeah and so you know
I want to start this out by kind of saying it's not just you as a listener that doesn't know
what you want this is true of most people and the research shows that this is exactly the case
and so research shows that daters think they know what they want but don't actually know and so
what they had people do was kind of come into a study list out all the things that they want in
aart partner and then gave them a chance to go out and meet someone that had a lot of those qualities
or not what what they what they found was as much as people were like yes I want a kind respectful
person or you know whatever qu they didn't do any of they didn't follow that really what they
ended u
p kind of retreating to is just basic evolutionary like was this person hot did were
they compatible in like a charismatic kind of way was there like that feeling of chemistry and so
even though like when you ask people objectively what is it that you want and they're like really
reasonable about it like I want these qual then you'll let them loose in the wild and they just
kind of fall back into bad habits we're all a bunch of animals man we just go right back to like
oh my God he smells s
o good and he just like when he hugs me he just completely like engulfs me and
ah that is so sexy but there's this really nice guy who I have a lot in common with over there man
oh man this guy right he makes me feel something else yeah and it's like you know so you have all
these people and I mean this was one study that and there's lots of other studies That Kind Show
the similar things that we're just not very good at knowing what we want and so what's going on
like what's what's where's
this mismatch coming from and I think there's kind of two main issues
the first is a focus problem and that's where you know it it could be that people are just clueless
they have no clue at all of what they're looking for and I I don't think that's it right I think
people do have some basic idea of what they're looking for I think it's much more likely that
they're kind of fuzzy about it like they have vague Notions it's like a fuzzy Target of like
this guy they're looking for sort of exi
sts but they're not really sure like they're not they
don't have strong convictions about what they're looking for right and that just makes it harder
yeah yeah I mean if you don't have a bullseye you're going to miss it every single time and so a
lot of times this happens because people just have a lack of experience they haven't really spent the
time to just reflect on what's worked for them and what hasn't and be real with themselves and that
sense of that like level of introspection is
is so important and sometimes requires time it might
take a walk down by the ocean skip some rocks if you can do that into an ocean maybe a pond that
might be a little bit easier and just really think about not just what you like when you first
meet someone on a first date but what do you want when you've been married to someone for 10 years
what qualities and attributes are most important to you and uh it it's so tricky because sometimes
those are like those are opposite things like that s
ometimes the things we are attracted to are the
very things that are bad for us long term like a guy who is hot and cold can sometimes be really
attractive but do you want a partner who's hot and cold no obviously not right whereas a guy who
is very emotionally available who gives you his all who tells you how he feels like do you want
that in a husband hell yeah but like is that hot on a first date no so it's like really coming to
terms with that and understanding like what how can you act
ually make this work for you in your
dating life so you can be set up for a long term yeah I always like thinking about this in terms of
like the best strategy I think for this is kind of picture yourself when you're 95 or 100 years old
and you're sitting out on your porch and you're kind of reflecting back on your life and you know
we always think about people in that stage like they have a lot of wisdom and they have like these
points of interest to to tell people about who are younger an
d like what would yourself tell you
like what would your 95 100y old self tell you right now what advice would you give yourself as
a 40y old 50y old 60y old about who you should be dating and because you know we say it's it's
a lack of experience it's lack of introspection it's it's lack of reflection and clear plan it's
like but if you kind of put yourself in that wise older experienced person's mindset it's like free
mentorship you get to Mentor yourself and I think that shift in perspec
tive can be really really
helpful for people I heard this quote the other day oh I wish I remember who it came from but it
kind of hit me like a a ton of bricks and that is wisdom is just simply following your own advice
like most people know like if you asked yourself like if you were giving your friend advice on
their love life chances are you're giving pretty good love advice but chances are you're not
following it yourself and I think true wisdom is like knowing what sets you up for lon
g-term
success and actually following it and like I think the same thing goes in all areas of our life
like if we're overweight like when I'm o when I'm gaining some weight I know what to do like it's
like exercise and eat less junk food right and eat cleaner Foods pretty simple stuff right but
wisdom is actually listening to that advice and acting on it and having the discipline to make it
happen and so I think that that's a lot of where we're going to be kind of diving into today yeah
an
d I I I I love this a little bit of a tangent but I love that you kind of differentiate between
wisdom and knowledge because there's like how many people I I'll speak for my like there's tons of
people that I know that study relationships like it's their research it's what they do it's what
they talk about and a lots of them are divorced yeah right and it's like that's a different like
knowing what to do and actually pulling it off and how to do it and implement it is a big deal and I
think
that's the second part where people go wrong is that it may you may know what you want or not
let's let's assume you do know what you know but then the second part is actually like following
through and putting it into action it's like if I know the kind of guy I'm looking for can I
actually know it when I see it and follow through on that impulse to make sure I land that guy along
the way right it's like we had a client who in one of our Mastermind sessions was was talking about
how the t
hing she really wants more than anything in a guy she was crystal clear about what she
wanted she's like I want someone who's smart but not like book smart necessarily but I want someone
who can carry an intellectual conversation I want someone who's intellectually stimulating it's like
perfect perfect that's exactly the kind of quality like we encourage people to like really focus in
on and then she said and I know how I'm going to find them I'm like great awesome let's perfect
this is won
derful I'm only gon to date guys with Advanced degrees I'm like terribly oh God terrible
terrible idea terrible idea this is coming from a professor by the way everybody a PhD Professor I
have advanced degrees like this is not the best criteria for thoughtful insightful conversation
like if you want to get into like small specific like sometimes inan conversations about details
that no one really cares about like okay maybe but in any case what I'm saying is you can have
the right target bu
t how you're going to get there like she might get there but only focusing
on people that have advanced degrees she might but that's actually like she's going with the
wrong criteria it's like talk to guys see if they can carry on these types of conversations you
want focus on that not well if you don't have a master's or a PhD I just can't waste my time like
it it's it's an implementation problem sometimes too it's a strategy problem right and like you
know her goal is right on she knows w
here she wants to go but the way to get there is just off
and I'm sure when you were talking to her you're redirecting her attention you know on where it
is she should be focusing her energy and like you just said rather like I personally I have I
used to lecture at universities that's all I did I spoke at like 300 colleges academics are some of
the dumbest people I've ever met I mean the best like when it comes to even just common sense and
I'm talking to an academic I realize that right n
ow but like they're very good at very specific
problems like you were discussing but Common Sense wise I've met some of the smartest people in
the world who have very blue collar jobs who are like intellectually Incredible or so stimulated
they're just maybe not like super ambitious don't want to start a business whatever I mean it's
it's pretty wild so I think your point exactly is like rather than focusing it on just like one
very specific area just talk to lots of guys and see what actua
lly stimulates your your uh your
intellect and so I love that and sorry to to just totally bash on academics but I'm pretty
sure you feel the same way maybe you wouldn't say dumbest maybe I'm being strong because all
your like really Gary really I would just say no lies detected I that all sounded pretty okay
I don't know if how fully Endor dumb but not you know can't wait till your next like uh your your
meetings that you guys have in your department and they're like so Gary I heard on the
podcast
talking about us I don't know why they're getting all like New Jersey so Gary I don't even know your
college is in New Jersey right so it it is and to just make sure I don't get myself in any more
trouble I'm just going to end this part there and we're going to segue on to the next thing
sorry hey man I just want to like bash I want to hit this bees nest a little bit because I don't
have to get stung just you so so you know people are going to struggle with this from lack of focus
and lack of implementation some of it is just kind of having an outside perspective I mean that helps
for sure but so one of the things that we've done and and really you to your credit have created is
a two-part strategy to really help people figure out what they really want and so the first step
in that is to have a plan it's it's something you call a love Vision do you want to tell us a
a little bit about what that is I know we don't have time for the full thing but just a little bit
ma
ybe yeah I mean briefly love Vision it's not a checklist of every single thing that you'd ever
want in a guy in fact it's quite the opposite in many ways it's really focusing your attention to
the absolute needs the mus haves the deal breakers in a relation in a man uh in a relationship and
once you create go through this process we have a number of different exercises we go through
with our clients but once you have this love Vision it actually broadens Your Horizon of who
you're willing a
nd able to date because once you have very specific needs that are reasonable and
we help you determine what's reasonable what's not once you have that then anyone who meets
that potential love Vision you got to go out with and so like a lot of clients I'll know when
they haven't been following our homework and our exercises when they're like oh I've I've created
my checklist I've created my love vision and no one's meeting my love vision and I'm like I'm
guessing you're Miss missing the po
int on this because a love vision is designed to really expand
your your uh what it is that you're going after yeah I mean what I like about it is it's really
all about keeping the most important thing the most important thing right it's it's priorities
and knowing your priorities because you can have anything you just can't have everything right and
it's like it's about figuring out what the most important things are right I'm sure like everybody
listening to this has seen like this like v
isual metaphor where it's like you have a mason jar and
you have a bunch of rocks and then smaller Pebbles and you have sand and you know it's like how do
you fill this up like what do you do and it's like the answer is you have to put the big things in
first and then you can fit the ler things around them but it's like you have to figure out when it
comes to your relationships like what are the big things what are the non-negotiables and that's
where you know a few moments ago I was saying
you know this client was saying I want somebody
who's intellectually stimulating and I'm like yes because that's like one of the big things like
that's that's a thing you want to make sure you're getting in there first and so you're on the right
track and so that's what that's the first thing I really like about these things the second part
that I really love about the love Visions is their objective in the sense that they're not tied
to the person you're currently dating or someone you've
previously dated in the past it's like kind
of a blank slate and it's what's actually like if I can step back and really evaluate like what's
most important this is what it is um and then we encourage people to look at that before they go
out and then after they go out with somebody to kind of like recalibrate right and kind of make
adjustments along the way yeah and I think the important part about that is that a love vision
is not a tattoo on your body it's not like once you set it now t
his is your love vision for the
rest of your life our clients actually it's it's very much so a living document like once they
create their initial love Vision they'll go out a few times see what it is that's connecting with
them see what is that they're really drawn to and and it's revised and actually having in writing
and then revising it and then posting again to our community getting that feedback from our
coaches talking about it it's such a healthy exercise because it's just an ongoi
ng kind of like
ref reflective exercise while it is you're dating and that is what dating with intention means
and I should say like Gary if you saw my first love Vision my love Vision dear God it is very
different from my wife like it is so different I can't even tell you because I was you know when
I first started getting really intentional about like love and finding a partner I was probably
you know 26 so this well over a decade ago and it was so ludicrous it was like I want her to be
in self-help I want her to be spiritual I want her to be into yoga I want her to like all of these
things that once I started going out with oh I also want her to be like hyper entrepreneurial
like all these contradic ictory things because I never I didn't have what we have I didn't have
any of this stuff and then I start going out with those people and I'm like God damn it I don't
want to date myself this is horrible and I'm not even that spiritual I don't even hang out
with spiritual peop
le like it was so ludicrous I like I did yoga twice I'm like oh I need to
be with someone who's like very into yoga you know and so I now practice yoga but it's uh you
know and then and then you start dating you start realizing what it is that you do really want what
you what you drive with and then you think back again well is this in line with what I want in
my long-term future 20 30 years down the line so kind of getting that feedback loop in the short
term and then thinking about how it
applies to your long term I think is what ultimately leads
to you to a really healthy love Vision so yeah and I think I think all of that that process that
Journey you just described is so important because I think one of the things that makes dating
hard and relationships hard is people have this mistaken notion that they're supposed to have it
all figured out by now like everyone thinks like I should I should know how to do this I should
have this all figured out by now and that's just n
ot true I mean particularly when you're 26
but it it doesn't matter if you're 86 right it's you're learning and it's a process and so
with this Vision being a living document like as you date each person you're going to learn things
you didn't know you didn't know and then you get to update your your love Vision accordingly and so
that brings us to step two which is this idea that experience is the best teacher and that you should
to really know what you want you have to date multiple peopl
e right you have to move fast early
on and go out talk to have conversations with as many people as you possibly can yeah that's that's
little what we call Little Love step number three so when we bring on clients we work with them they
follow seven powerful yet small steps to get out there and attract long-lasting love we call them
the seven little love steps and the first two little love steps are all about you and reflection
and creating Your Love Vision but then once we get to Little Lo
ve step three it is like pedal to the
metal baby let's get you out there meeting lots of guys doing it with intention to see what what you
really like and a lot of it is like you're little love step three you're meeting lots of people
then you go back to Little Love step two and look at your and revise your love vision and then
you go back out again you continuously it's like this ongoing process and you can't do that if only
going out and meeting like one or two guys every two to three mon
ths like it it just it doesn't
work this process doesn't work and so yeah it is all about like I think that is we are just so
hardcore about that like when someone's struggling usually that is like the underpinning of it
is they're just not meeting enough new people they're just not making it happen and then every
excuse Under the Sun comes up of why it is that they can't make that happen and so much of that
that's where just like coaching comes in where it's like you can do this got to mak
e it happen
we might have to like just expand our Horizons a little bit to get a little bit of momentum we
got to practice practice practice and before you know it you know you're going to get much more
clarity about what it is that you really like what is that you don't like yeah I mean so much of
dating success is about patience right it's about taking things slow except for this part this part
is about moving fast meet as many people as you possibly can because you need to play an active
role like you haven't probably met as many people in a romantic sense as you think you have right
at this point like you just there's so many more people out there than you realize and by meeting
them you start to realize all those things you don't know um as one of our coaches Robin talks
about all the time she talks about you know you need to have a good filter and it's about sifting
for gold and so you know you're more likely going to find that gold if you're sifting with something
rea
lly large than something really small right in in nerd speake we call this the field of eligibles
right your field of eligibles you want it to be as big as possible because that increases the chances
you're going to find that one person and so this idea of experiencing being the best teacher and
dating multiple people is about increasing your field of eligibles increasing the size of your
filter however else you want to think about it but it's like this is going to help you find that
person
yeah and it's helpful something that I think a lot of women might recoil to when they're
hearing this is like if I'm meeting a lot of guys that might mean that I have to reject a lot of
guys as well or like the reality is when you're in little upep three you're going to be saying no way
more times than you're actually going to be saying yes and that can be very difficult for a lot of
people especially those who are people Pleasers those who don't like to hurt other people's
feelings but th
at is really the name of the game if you want to be set up for long-term success
I mean that's just the reality is you're going to meet a lot more guys but just statistically
that you don't like and that's okay than guys that you do like and you're have to break some
hearts along the way and that's a kind of a tough pill to swallow but the alternative is that
you're only talking to one maybe two guys and then you're giving them all of your energy these guys
might not even meet your love Vis
ion because you don't even know what your love Vision really is
and then you're stuck Fu you know so yeah that's that's kind of my thinking on that yeah I think
you know one of the problems if you focus on just one person whether you realize or not you become
highly motivated to make that one work because no one likes the idea of wasting time and so you
start seeing people get into this pattern where it's like well we've been together two months and
it's not perfect but I don't want to star
t over I don't want to waste these last two months and
so I'm going to keep going going then you know four months are in it's like well now it's four
months now it's twice as bad you know now I'm really like and you just start getting deeper and
deeper and deeper committed yeah yeah and you're you're forcing yourself to make things work that
that's not really ideal um the here one of the big objections we get with this is women will say I
can't date multiple people that just doesn't feel ri
ght doesn't feel right and so a lot of times
when find when they say it doesn't feel right what they're really saying is it it seems a little
promiscuous like it feels wrong it maybe feels a little [ __ ] and so like what is your feedback
what is your suggestion about that just because you're dating multiple guys doesn't mean you're
sleeping with multiple guys number one so very important thing number two is this is how men date
this is how most people date this is how a lot of women modern
women date so if you're not dating
this way you're really at a huge disadvantage right and yeah I mean this is how guys date
this concept came from when I used to coach men on dating and when I would tell guys that they
should be dating multiple women at the same time they were like hell yes okay and again it wasn't
sleeping with multiple women anything like that it was just like meet lots of women and see what you
like and just Pace be very open and transparent about where you're at don't
lie like all the same
value all the same values that we teach women now I used to teach men men were totally on board
with totally cool with made total sense women fight this tooth and nail and it's like but the
women who follow it are those who get just massive results they have all the power throughout the
process they are the prize because if a guy starts to get flaky or weird or you know they determine
he doesn't meet their love Vision no problem move on to the next bye whatever I got
Jeff Joe and
John to go out with next week and uh you are now a figment of my past that's it so yeah I think the
other side the other objection that I hear related to this that that's very much follows from this
is guys are not going to be okay with me seeing other guys to which I always like who cares right
like yeah you don't think guys are seeing other people like they're out like you just said like
guys are out there dating multiple people they're talking to multiple people so him being
not okay
with you doing the same behavior he's engaging in I think we call that a uh a double standard yeah
and even if he's and like even if he isn't dating other women like and I know that that's probably
what popped into everyone's head so let's just say he's not with the little love steps we have
a very stark contrast between little love step five and little love step six and when you're in
Little Love step number six you are an exclusive you are in an exclusive committed relationship
when you're in Little Love step number five you are still single there's no gray area so it's like
if you haven't yet had the conversation with him about exclusivity then you my beautiful lady are
still single and if he has the wrong impression that you're exclusive when you haven't had the
conversation that is on him that's on him because you haven't had the conversation yet never assume
exclusivity never on either side if I was coaching men I'd be saying the same thing and so if you
just
kind of go into this Assuming he's being exclusive with you you know you've been sleeping
together you've been kind of having the girlfriend experience you know where you're giving him all
your emotional energy but you haven't had yet had the conversation you're running a massive risk so
spread the risk talk to multiple guys and then at a certain point it just becomes abundantly clear
that you both want to be with each other like it reaches that point usually anywhere from one month
to thr
ee months of dating where it's like he's the only guy you can even possibly consider yourself
with he meets Your Love Vision he wants to be in a relationship with you he's brought up exclusivity
multiple times great go be exclusive now you're on little love step six but until that point you're
single right and you know I think this idea of dating multiple people like in other contexts we
use this approach all the time it makes complete sense for any big decision right if if you're
looking f
or a new job you apply to one place at a time see that through to the end and then apply
to the next place absolutely not like you apply to multiple places at once you hopefully have
multiple interviews at once when they ask you are you interviewing other places you say yes yes
I am right because that only like of course you are like nobody wants to hire the candidate that
has no prospects anywhere else right it's like if going to buy a car you're going to do the same
thing like you're not
just going to like test drive one car and then that's it like you're going
to try a couple different things you're going to consider a bunch of different options you're
going to gather information and you're going to gather information particularly if you haven't
done this in a while whatever this thing is like so if you haven't dated in a while gather more
information learn learn go on that Journey that we talked about revise your love Vision along the
way like you owe it to yourself to gi
ve yourself the experiences so that when you eventually
do settle on a CH Choice you're that much more certain about it God we are so non-romantic Gary
we are just like what just a like non like sexy romantic way to date you know but the reality is
it sets you up for long-term success right there there are some coaches out there some advice
your friends will tell you just go with your heart whatever you're feeling every single step
of the way oh you're feeling him just just lean into him hi
m and that's it it's like where's that
led you right like right our feelings can actually lead us in a lot of terrible directions in life
like constantly listening to our feelings all the time I'm not saying like don't listen to your
feelings at all but we got to bring some strategy along with us and this is the strategy side is
like I want you to listen to your heart but you got to bring the strategy and the strategy is
even if you're talking to that guy meets Your Love Vision he is amazin
g he's leaning in but
you've only known for two weeks accept the date from someone else keep with the process like if
you get asked out by another guy go for it keep with that process lean into the process lean into
the strategy and I'm telling you the clients who do that and a vast majority of our clients
it takes us usually about a month or two of working with them to really convince them to lean
into this but when they do they're like oh my God this is this is game changer now I have the
se guys
like literally begging begging for me to be their girlfriend like it just changes the whole power
Dynamic and not we're not doing this to manipulate or anything like that but it just it elevates you
in many ways throughout the process well because ultimately the relationship you're going to want
to get into is going to be one where you and your partner have equal power and so the problem is
people date in a way that you know subjugates them and makes them lower power the whole entir
e time
they're dating and then they hope once they're in a long-term serious relationship somehow they
flip the switch and now they're like hey we're all equal now and it's like wait a second you're
changing the Dynamics of how we set this up and the person who had more power who's usually the
guy is going to be like wait what that's not how we set this up we set this up where you're down
here and I'm up here and like now you want equal like so when you date smarter you're going to set
you
rself up for better long-term relationships and so yeah you're right does it sound a little not
romantic yeah but it's smarter right and it's like if all that romantic worked it would have
worked for you by now and it's like we wish it worked that way it's just it doesn't work that way
and so we're trying to help you you dates smarter something I say all the time you know follow
your heart but take some strategy with you and and that's really the answer yeah I agree so that
was great Gary I
really appreciate it and everyone who's listening right now take that action and
start really getting out there talk to multiple guys go make it happen to really learn what it is
that you want we're here for every step of the way
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