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ESG and Charities: The Next Step in Building Corporate Partnerships

ESG - environment, social, governance - are pillars that more and more companies are focusing their efforts on building metrics and objectives around. This movement is also an opportunity for charities to consider how they are doing in these areas. If it’s important to companies, it definitely should at least be on the radar of those charities seeking funds from companies. Victoria Houle recently joined me to discuss ESG and Corporate Partnerships. What we covered: - What ESG is and how it is showing up in charities and in companies - How charities can leverage ESG in their corporate partnership outreach - How they can leverage it to build stronger corporate partnerships About Victoria: Victoria has completed her diploma from Toronto St. Michael's College in sustainability and social responsibility. She has an extensive career in corporate partnerships in the charitable sector and is now leading the modernization of the community investment program at Ontario Power Generation. JOIN ME: If you like this video hit "LIKE", and if you are working in corporate partnerships and sponsorships regularly, please "SUBSCRIBE" to this channel, so you can get regular videos from me that are practical, cheerleading and inspirational advice on how to raise more money from companies. Who am I? I'm Heather Nelson and I'm a Corporate Sponsorship Specialist. I help nonprofits and charities of all sizes raise more money from companies. My boutique consultancy BridgeRaise focuses entirely on corporate partnerships and corporate sponsorships for nonprofits. LOOKING TO CONNECT? REACH OUT! Email: heather@bridgeraise.com Website: https://www.bridgeraise.com/ Blog: https://www.bridgeraise.com/blog/ LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/nelsonheather Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BridgeRaise/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/heathernelson12 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bridgeraise/ #corporatepartnerships #corporatefundraising #nonprofits

Heather Nelson

10 months ago

- Hi everybody, this is Heather Nelson here. I'm from BridgeRaise. BridgeRaise is my consultancy that helps charities and nonprofits raise more money from companies. And if you are here to talk about ESG and charities, you are in the right place. I have been at a number of workshops lately and everywhere I go, community investment, corporate people are talking about ESG. And if they're talking about ESG, you my friends that are doing corporate fundraising, need to know what that is, how that sho
ws up in your charities and how that shows up in your corporate partnerships. And I am so thrilled to have my friend Victoria here to talk about this with me. I'd love to see your comments in the messages. So let me know you're here, where you're here from. If you have any questions about ESG, pop those in the comments so I can see them and know that you have joined us and are excited to learn more. So, as I mentioned, Victoria is going to be my guest today, Victoria and I go way back to the tod
dler days of BridgeRaise when I was first out on my own, I worked alongside Victoria doing some corporate prospect research for her, some corporate strategy work for the Canadian Women's Foundation. That was a great time. We aligned on so many things and we've stayed in touch ever since. Fast forward to now, we've both done a bunch of stuff since then and now we are here really bringing you into a conversation that started with us over lunch and we started talking about these things and I really
felt that my community would learn so much from Victoria. So I'm asking her to join us today. So here we go. I'm going to bring her into the stream and we are going to have this chat. Welcome Victoria. - Hi Heather, how are you? - Yes, I am great. I am so glad you're here and I thought we would get started with you introducing yourself and telling all our viewers and people watching on record who you are and why you are the person I want to talk to about ESG and corporate partnerships. - Sure.
So, hi everybody. It's so nice to be here. So thanks Heather for having me. That was such a nice introduction and it's true. We go back way back and we can actually, we were just saying earlier, we could literally talk for hours on our subject. So, this is a great opportunity. So a little bit about me. Last 20 years, I've been on both sides of the coin. I've been a fundraiser for about 12 years and kind of honed my skills in the corporate philanthropy side. That was sort of my passion. And then
I've also worked with companies on their foundations, specifically like social impact foundations on the for-profit side for about eight years, nine years now. So I've done a little bit of both. And last year or the year before actually, as I was in corporate philanthropy, I really started to have a more of a passion and an interest and wanted to learn about ESG. So I actually signed myself up for the graduate program at St. Mike's at U of T for the sustainability and social responsibility progr
am. So it's a year and a half program. So I just graduated from it this past November. So that really helped me to kind of round out my knowledge and my expertise around that. So just a little plug, it's an awesome program. If anyone's interested in doing it, do it. And the network and the people that you're going to meet are absolutely amazing. We still keep in touch to this day. And yeah. And now I'm currently at Ontario Power Generation and I'm working on modernizing their community investmen
t strategy. So that's a little bit about me. - That is such a good intro 'cause it does really cover off all the pieces and I love that you did go back to school in that area. I get people ask about that program all the time and, you know, it is a unique opportunity to certainly delve into that space. So I love that you're bringing that. And, spoiler alert, I will remind people at the end of this, but Victoria did send me a number of awesome resources, I imagine some of which they talked about i
n your program and some you've come across since then. So if anybody is interested in some more resources on ESG and charities, I have some for you and you can DM me and ask me for them. But let's get started on the conversation. I've been throwing around this term ESG, and I just want you, let's start with the basics. What is it and why is it so important first for the business sector? - Yeah. So yeah, that's a good way to sort of level out all of our understanding of what ESG is. So basically
what it is, there's a lot of different definitions, but the main definition is that it's a, it's a vital business strategy and framework. So that pertains to a company building a sustainable business. And there's three main areas that they focus on, which is the environmental, the social, and the governance aspects of a business. So the idea of ESG is that if you look back in time, the idea was that companies were more focused just on their profit or their profitability of the business. Whereas
this ESG framework, it supports people, the planet and the business equally. So you're taking the focus away from just the profitability of the business, and now businesses are understanding that they need to look at these three things in order to be sustainable and to be profitable and to be equitable. So the three main pillars, yeah, the E, the S and the G, the E refers to environmental factors. So those could be like environmental impacts or the risks that a business might have or their resil
iency towards, like climate risks, like flood supply, fires, that sort of thing, or what their carbon footprint might be. The social pillar refers to their relationship with their stakeholders. And so when we talk about stakeholders, what that means is that anybody who has a stake in the business, so that could be their employees, their customers, their suppliers, their vendors, those are the stakeholders. And that refers to anything from employee-wise. Like it could be looking at, you know, fai
r wages, how they treat their employees, employee engagement. But it also comes, it also connects with their community impact and how they impact communities. And it's actually, for some companies, it's even more broad than that. It even goes sort of into like a more of a tertiary phase where they're even looking at their suppliers. So what does that mean for their suppliers or their labor standards, for example, or what that looks like in developing countries if they have operations there. And
then the T refers to the governance aspect, so like how they lead and manage their business. So that refers to like how they manage their operations, what kind of policies they have. It refers to like their transparency, their accountability within their business. And all of these companies that are implementing ESG. So let's, I guess I should probably mention not all companies follow an ESG framework or use ESG, I would say, I think I just read a stat about 90% of S&P companies are now implemen
ting ESG so it's very much for the sort of mid to larger size businesses that are looking at this. But I would argue that smaller ones will be doing so, it's just taking a bit of time. - Yeah, you know, as you describe it, you know, you can really automatically see like some emerging things that seem like obvious connections to the charitable sector and to corporate partnership. But let's highlight those for our listeners. When you think about ESG frameworks in companies, what are some things th
at, you know, you immediately say, and this applies to charity, or this applies to the connection between the two. - Exactly. So really good point. So there's two things actually that really connect those two together. So as we were just talking about the differences of the E and the S and the G, so keep in mind companies more and more the ones that are establishing ESG priorities or frameworks, they're being evaluated. So they are getting rated on how they do on each of those three. And more an
d more investment decisions are being made on how they're rated, like, so investments, like people that buy stock or, you know, that partner with a company and so forth. So they need to rank really high, right, on those three things, those three things, the E, the S, and the G, it builds trust, it builds their brand, their reputation. It attracts new business and partners. It attracts their clients, their customers, their employees that does the exact same thing for charities. - Right? - So what
's the connection between those two? And where you can look at it even more closely is what corporate philanthropy does, is to think of it as you are the S, your work is the S of that ESG, that's where you fit in. So you're exactly that S. So you are very much tied to ESG strategies and frameworks for a company. And so we'll talk a little bit about that, more about that's- - Yeah. - Yeah. And I do want to flag which something you said offline before we got on, we are focusing today on the part o
f this, which is like, how can a charity who's talking corporate partnerships connect into the ESG strategies at the company. And I want to focus there, but I also want us to just quickly mention that putting these ESG frameworks in place at our charitable organizations can also be an important step in, you know, just maintaining authenticity. So tell me a little bit about that from your point of view. - Exactly. So yeah, there's two main points really that, you know, we wanted to highlight. And
of course, you know, today here we're going to focus really more on corporate philanthropy and community investment and what that means within ESG. But to your point, the other side of it that I just wanted to kind of plant the seed here because everybody here is in the charitable sector, and I have been there as well. It is, I think, and more and more so super important to look at it as a business strategy for the charitable sector. So as we were talking about the fact that ESG helps to build
trust, right? Trust is your number one focus as a charity. If you don't have trust, if people don't trust you as an organization, you're going to lose your donors, you're going to lose your funders, you're going to lose your employees, right? So keep in mind that this is a strategy that I think really should be looked at within the charitable sector. More and more donors and funders are paying attention to how your charitable organization or not-for-profit or whatever you are, how you do your wo
rk even almost even more so than your impact. - Yeah. Yeah. - So it's super important and I mean, it's been in the news lots, right? But I mean, I think it just highlights the fact that funders and partners are looking for reputable organizations that they can trust, that they know that they are effective in their operations. And ESG helps to that effect. But anyways, we won't go there today, but- - Yeah. Yeah. Seed planted and I could not agree more. I think, you know, I think it also extends t
o the part where like there is going to be increased expectations, I think, on the corporate side to prove your authenticity on the charitable side. And one of the ways you can do that is by having your own ESG framework and your own metrics that you're measuring as opposed to just jumping in and helping a company with theirs, right? But let's talk about the jumping in and helping them with theirs. So you mentioned the obvious place for the linkage to occur is with the S. How might a charity, yo
u know, figure out how to do that with a company that has an ESG framework in place? - Yeah, so we talked a little bit about where you fit in. So consider yourselves as you're the S in the ESG equation. So there's a couple points here that I think are really important to think about when you're aligning yourselves with the corporate sector. And, you know, like I said, I've been there, I was doing that for years up until very recently. And I know that's, you know, some of you, you know, on this c
all, you might be seeing more and more of, you know, a prospect or a current partner even that's focusing on ESG. So a couple things that I want to highlight that are super important when you're connecting your work to their ESG framework, one of them is highlighting the fact that obviously your work is the yes in the ESG and to really stress the importance of your work and how that relates to their framework. The next thing is the social impact data that you are able to provide. Think of it as
that helps them to create more business value. So just as we had mentioned earlier, the fact that companies that implement an ESG framework are being evaluated and rated, that means they have very specific metrics that they're looking for. So the more you can do that, even if it's just the basics, like I have been with small not-for-profits, I have been with larger ones. I know the measurement and the impact measurement and the evaluation is sometimes super hard. Sometimes you don't even have a
person to do it, but even if you can start to pull some of that information, this is really, really important for a company because that's what they need that data to connect those dots and make the business case that their investment makes sense, right? 'Cause now they're using your data to show that their investment is making that social impact. - Yeah, it's so important to have data and I know that is such a challenge for our partners, for our charitable organizations. How comfortable do you
think most companies will be on sharing the specifics of their, like the data points they're looking for in their framework? - Yes. That is such a good, that's a really good point actually, that was something that I was going to bring up. You know, one of the things I think that is super important, and I know Heather, you and I have talked about this for so much. So many times, is the fact that, you know, how important it's to have conversations. - That's right. - With your prospects before you
actually go down the road of making a proposal. That's where that conversation comes in. And almost like, I've not yet come across a company that would not be willing to share that information. So I think it's really important to do your homework and make sure that if you're looking to reach out, if it's a prospect, for example, that you are having that conversation and you're learning about their ESG goals, how looking for like how you align with those goals. So where do you fit into that and t
ailor your conversation in your proposals around that. If they're a current partner and you're looking to just build that up or you're looking for like a larger gift from them or whatever it might be, again, that's where that conversation comes into play. It's super important, important to find out, you know, listen and learn about their business. So ask those pointed questions, you know, what are the things that you're looking to evaluate and measure right now? And show, like, demonstrate even
if you have like the simplest points of data, show those points and demonstrate this is the kind of data that we're able to collect right now. Tell them what your strategy is around data evaluation and management. Tell them if you're working on it or you're looking to improve it, or you're just getting involved or you're just getting into it. It's important to have those conversations and understand where there are in their journey, their ESG journey, because that's when you can figure out how,
where you can best fit and where you can best align. And it really is going to save you a ton of time down the road. If you can't have those conversations, I know loads of times you can't even get them on the phone or they, or if it's a prospect, you can't even get them to even connect with you. But if you can look online and you can try and Google and find that information, it's usually somewhere there and really, you know, you just need to put in the time and effort now because it's, once you
tailor that proposal, it's going to save you time and energy then putting out a random proposal that has no alignment to their ESG goals. - That's it. Yeah, and 100% we, well, at BridgeRaise, one of our main offerings is like digging through the material and trying to tease out that piece of information that the metric that they're collecting in their S by reading the long reports if you don't have time at your organizations, because it does make a huge difference. And I think if we're talking a
bout a company that's getting a whole bunch of emails, I always say like, if they get one that shows that you've read it, you've figured out the connection and you can even give a simple data point that fits in, you're much more likely to get the call back than the very general outreach, right? - Yeah. - And so I think that that's such a super important point. And hearing it from you, knowing that you've been on both sides, I know that obviously that's what we talk about as well here at BridgeRa
ise is that, how do you, like, there's so many different things you can leverage to get the call and this ESG area is such an important one. And I also know that for most organizations in ESG, if not all, like reporting on this information is actually part of requirements to get evaluated. So the data is there somewhere. It does often require though we're doing some reading and deciding that, you know, that this is a partner you really want enough to invest that time so that you can match up. In
teresting that we've been focusing on the S, I will say recently I have a few organizations that I'm working with that are also fitting into the E and the emergence of more and more attention on climate change and on carbon footprint and things like that. We are seeing, you know, if you're talking about an advanced sponsorship or a conference or something like that, you may also have to make sure you're paying attention to your carbon footprint, some of those things as well because, you know, th
ey don't want to be investing in an S and then hurting their E at the same time. So it's really important to be keeping an eye on both of those, I think. - Yeah, that's a really good point actually. And looking at it from both sides of the coin, you know, just to sort of highlight that, you know, on the one hand, you know, I think that the charitable, if you're not-for-profit, charity, whatever you are, once you partner with a company, you are sort of part of their supply chain. And so if that c
ompany is already being evaluated on their environmental footprint, and remember we were talking about the fact that a lot of them are now looking at the tertiary phase, right? So it means like a company is looking at what's their environmental impact for themselves and then they're looking at, okay, what does that mean for our supply chain, right? So they want to partner with organizations, companies, vendors, whatever, that are also looking at that and that it's super, super important. And I t
hink the other side of thing to keep in mind is that, you know, I think, you know, coming from the not-for-profit sector, I think what we tend to do is we tend to silo a lot of the social issues that we are working on. So we say poverty is poverty for the most part, but we don't connect it with larger issues. And so making that connection and it's sort of, it takes like systems thinking, right? So it's the holistic view of, okay, well this is, you know, when you're connecting with a partner, wit
h a corporate partner for example, or a prospect or whatever it might be, you know, you're talking about your social issue, but you want to make sure that you're connecting it to the broader, the broader issues of the ESG. And also keep in mind too, a lot of companies are connecting and aligning with the SDG goals, the sustainable development goals. So I think it would be really, really important to also connect your work to those goals when you're connecting with a corporate partner. Because yo
u can find, you will find an alignment somewhere. I promise you. There's 15 goals in there. There are a million different tactics and goals that they're trying to achieve. You're going to fit in there somewhere. You just need to highlight that because to your point, Heather, you know, when you're talking about the number of organizations that are trying to get that company's dollars, if you can make that connection super easy and right up front, they don't have to go digging for it. - Yeah, yeah
. It's interesting that you bring up SDGs 'cause there was a question in our comments about that. And I was going to say while there are connections, they are separate, but one of the tactics that we use with SDGs and ESG are similar in my mind that these are things that companies are measuring and where we can find alignment. So, you know, if you're looking for, you know, things to put in your pitch deck or things to put in your early emails, the alignment between yourself and ESG goals at a co
mpany or your alignment between your charity and the SDGs that that company has prioritized are two really good ways to do it. And yes, is there overlap in there? Sure. But those are two separate frameworks basically, in my view that organizations that companies are using. - Yeah. - And both, which we can use as levers to create connection and alignment. I'm going to jump to another question here too that, so the comment was, you know, that they have seen some companies treating corporate philan
thropy and ESG separate. I think that that is true, but we're seeing more, are you seeing more integration of this is, you know- - Yeah. - Is this sort of a question of where they're on their journey- - Yes. That's exactly it. It's where they're on their journey. So traditionally or historically, that's how it was looked at. It was looked at as corporate philanthropy is this nice to have thing because it's good and we feel good and everyone's happy and that's it, right? It was never connected to
the revenue generation of the business, but now it's completely different. So those companies that are implementing an ESG framework, very much understand that their social value, their social proposition or their social license to operate is very much tied to corporate philanthropy and community investment. - Okay. - And now they're making that connection. Now they understand for those ones that are evolving or that are further on in their journey, those companies are now understanding the inv
estment I make in community investment has a direct relation to my bottom line. It's going to reflect the partners that I get. If you are a retailer, it affects customers and how they think of you. It's your social license to operate. - Yeah, yeah. - Very much Part of it's the ones that have evolved that are further along in their journey, those are the ones that have tied those two together. The ones that are still a little bit behind, I think of it more traditionally as separate. Those ones ar
e, you know, just a little bit, you know, behind the eight ball I would say. - Yeah, I couldn't agree more. And I think, you know, to your point about, you know, the size of company and where they are does affect where they are at their journey. But I'm seeing more and more, I actually have an entrepreneur friend who works with startups on ensuring ESG and they're seeing more and more now that startup funding is getting connected to ESG. So I think it is just a matter of time, just like there wa
s a point where corporate philanthropy was not connected to marketing or employee engagement or any of those things. You know, over the last few years, very few companies are giving away money that doesn't connect in some way to either ESG priorities, employee priorities, or, you know, some very specific business goals or marketing brand building goals. And I feel like this is like we're continuing on this evolutionary path in our businesses, in our companies, and therefore corporate partnership
s need to keep up with that. They're also evolving, right? And if you're still exclusively looking for funding that doesn't meet these different expectations on the corporate side, that pie is dwindling as this other one is growing. - Yeah. - So, you know, we only have a couple more minutes here. If you wanted to give like one really, one or two really core piece of advice to charities who are looking to use ESG as a way of either strengthening or building a relationship with the company, what w
ould you suggest? - I would say there's a couple of things. I would come back to the idea of your impact measurement and your evaluation. - Okay. - I think that that is one of the top priorities, if I had to say like, that was a key takeaway, honestly, it's such a big takeaway and there's a couple things going along with that. I think one, make sure that you understand and have those conversations with your prospects or your partners to understand what is important to them in terms of evaluation
and understand what you can provide them and tell them that, show them what you've got, even if you're at the beginning stage of it, that's fine. And the other important piece is that, you know, I would consider yourselves as, you know, change makers within your organization. So if your organization isn't currently doing that, I think that you should be starting to plant that seed internally with your organization and having other people understand the business case of not having that evaluatio
n or if you're not measuring in some way, shape, or form your impact, it's going to affect the funding that you can attract and retain. So I think that's an important piece. Another one that I want to emphasize is, we haven't touched on this yet, but I think it's also really important to remember that even, for example, I know that we're all going and, you know, I consider myself a we because I still feel like I'm a, but I would say that keep in mind that even if you don't, if you don't land tha
t partner right away or, you know, the prospect says no, keep in mind that another part of the S in ESG is what employee or what companies consider employee giving and volunteering or engagement. And I want to make sure that there's like, you know, there's volunteering and then there's also engagement. So don't worry if you don't have volunteering. So coming back to the idea of the S when we were talking earlier, the fact that companies look at the S, the social part of ESG as the relationship w
ith their stakeholders, they very much have more emphasis placed on like an employee's, their relationship with their company, how they, you know, what they like about it, how they feel about it, the culture and that sort of thing. So as an organ, as a charity or not-for-profit, what if, if you can at least get your foot in the door in terms of, you know, perhaps connecting with them on employee giving side of things or even if there's some engagement. So if you have volunteer opportunities, sup
er, I know many don't, many organizations don't. Think of it as an educational opportunity too. So not just volunteering, but like, you know, can you offer up, you know, webinars that connect employees to your cause and, you know, educate them on the social impact issues that you're trying to solve. That kind of thing is also super, super valuable. So you might start off at that level and then you're building that relationship with them because now you've built in some key ambassadors in the com
pany, you've got some people on your side and that's maybe where then you can start to build out more of a larger partnership with them. So those are- - I love that. Such a great place to end because I know that the, for many of the people listening, probably the metrics and impact piece feels heavy and difficult. Although I love that you said tell them where you're at. You know what? I could not agree more. I always say that, you know, if you're transparent at the front and are honest, it's muc
h more likely actually to get you the partnership than to hurt you because with the other person that's not telling the whole story, that's going to fall apart, right? If you're honest, you say this is what I have, this is what we're measuring, this is what I can offer, this is what we aspire to, but we're not there yet. Companies can understand that and relate to that and appreciate that. And then you're building the trust and credibility. So I love that. I talk all the time about how we shy aw
ay from employee engagement or employee giving because we think it has to be volunteerism and big and complex and it doesn't. So thank you for giving people hope there, 'cause I think most of us can run webinar engagement type activities and so that's another takeaway for everybody. We have run out of time. This has been so, so valuable. I know, like we started at the beginning, we could talk forever. We've let you in on a half hour. I know this has been really useful for all of you. Thank you s
o much, Victoria. If people have any follow up questions, where should they reach out to you? - Yeah, I'm happy to have this chat with anybody. As Heather mentioned, we're both pretty passionate about these areas, so I love having conversations. Just reach out to me on LinkedIn. I'm there. - Perfect. Perfect. Okay, thanks everybody for joining. As I said at the beginning, I have a list of resources on this topic. If you want to learn more, please send me a DM and I will get them to you. I wish a
ll of you the very best day, the very best in figuring out how your organization internally can embrace an ESG framework as well as use ESG frameworks in corporations as a way to create alignment, stronger partnerships and more revenue for your organizations. Thank you so much for being here and I look forward to connecting again. - Thanks everyone. Thanks Heather.

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