[Music] okay whenever you guys are ready are you feeling nervous I'll get through it there's only like a few people have told my story just because I'm embarrassed and I shouldn't feel that way but I do I'm embarrassed it was my dad my dad that did it I just don't want anybody to know about it I don't want anybody feel sorry for me it's just not something I want to tell it's just such a shocking thing people to wrap their mind around when you tell them that and they're just like oh my gosh and d
isbelief as an Indiana deathro inmate is just hours away from execution Matthew Eric wrinkles is set to die by lethal injection early tomorrow morning he did deserve it he did what he did and that's what had to happen but as mad as I was he was still my dad I believe people can become evil the way you choose to live your life and make decisions I think can make someone become evil but I never thought that that would happen like it [Music] did [Music] this is a photo of myself and my mom and my d
ad and Seth it does look like we're just the normal average kind of [Music] family even looking at this you wouldn't have thought anything bad's going on in that family there's pictures on the refrigerator that we abuse going on actually kind of of sad looking at this because it's not really real I look at myself right here in this picture and I look at my eyes and it looks like I put it on a smile for someone else but it looks like sad eyes there that I always faked everything outside of home t
hat everything was okay it [Music] [Music] wasn't yeah just a nasty kind of s of humor sometimes I had a pet rabbit and I would sit her right next to me and the rabbit would just stay there and she was just so she was so soft she was sweet so what's for dinner sometimes he would joke and be like oh I wonder what that bunny would taste like he just thought was the funniest thing if whatever comes up missing you'll know what what happened sweetie he's only [Music] joking I was in the house and he
called me out hey honey come out here see what I got for you it was rabbits he had killed that day he had the rabbit's head on a stick stuck in the ground I was shocked and surprised I remember yelling out dad and he just laughed about it and thought it was just so funny don't be such a wuss you know don't be so sensitive it's just a joke but he knew how I was about I didn't want to kill any bunnies I didn't think that was funny he just had a sick sense of humor my dad had a business it was call
ed carbon um a mechanic little shop in his garage and um he would work on vehicles out there he could tear apart anything and put it back together and that's what he specialized in was taking apart car readers and he was really good at his job he be out in the garage um and sometimes coming home from school we i' go and say hi Dad I'm home hey Dad hey honey how was school today he was good yeah and he would ask me to come out and take phone calls and write down you know appointments and he would
ask me to help him uh pump brakes okay but i' get into the driver's seat he'd be like okay when I tell you I want you to pump the brakes and then when I say pump the brakes you pump the brakes okay okay team and um I got pretty good at that but at the same time I was nervous because he had a short temper okay pump the brakes Lindsay pump the brakes I am it's Lind I said pump the brakes he would yell and say are you holding the brakes are you holding it all the way down did I say pump the brakes
did I what did I say sorry please don't be mad he like to throw stuff and that would scare me you can't listen I'm sorry I swear to God Lindsay I swear to God [Music] [Music] I didn't want him to get mad at me honey I'm sorry there was some times where I felt there was more of a normaly about him he had a little bit more patience sweetie don't cry daddy you know I didn't mean to kind a girl all right but he was unpredictable one minute he was you know sweet and then the next minute wow where di
d that come from he just flip of a [Music] switch Seth was so full of life but Seth was just a kid and rambunctious and that would really aggravate my dad Seth I told you not to lie to me what did I say about lying huh clean you said Daddy I clean my room you didn't clean your room that would set my dead off look at this blocks Choice every does this look clean to you huh I can remember standing at my door I I'll clean up later you're going to clean it up now and um he just took his belt off and
he just started whipping him and it's like he wasn't stopping he was crying and screaming that was horrible I knew there was no helping him and I was so scared that I was going to be next and he actually came to the door and and looked at me and said do you want some of [Music] [Music] this you always got to argue he would just bring a gun out and say I should kill you right now give me one reason not to use this if you ever leave you this is what you're going to get but now I don't hear you ga
ping and I remember it just got out of hand before he even realized what he was doing Dad it's a picture of my mom and dad and this is when they got married my dad was with some friends in a pool hall and my mom had come in and um my dad I guess was asking around who is that girl that redheaded girl and um they're like oh that's Debbie he said that she's so pretty he couldn't get over that when she walked into the pool hall nobody ever drew his attention like she did something about that girl th
ey do look happy I believe that they loved each other but I I believe over time the bad things overtook the good things that's what was actually going on they were two bombs just ready to go off at any [Music] time my mom was the big Bill payer and he had no concept of money he would blow money and that caused a lot of a lot of problems Eric what are you doing just getting a little spending money she said why don't you go get a real job he didn't like to be questioned and he didn't like people t
o tell him what to do he would tell her to just shut up you're like a [ __ ] it would just piss her off even more it's my stop it my mom would slap him a lot on the head face and he just had enough and he just turned around and just dect her a lot of times the fighting was at night laying in bed you could hear stomping around yelling maybe cursing and I just laid there just thinking were they going to hurt each other can they just stop fighting why do they have to fight I just wanted it to stop
[Music] they were fighting I could hear them and I wasn't asleep but I was pretending to be [Music] in Lindsay wake up I want you downstairs now he would say kids come look I want you to see how your mom is acting right now I said no I don't want to and he'd say get in here [Music] now and so we would go in there and we'd sit down on the couch and we'd have to sit and watch we were little onlookers quiet little onlookers she would hit him and then they'd start hitting each other scared somebody
was going to get hurt really [Music] bad sometimes he was angry and sometimes he was lunatic angry and then it led to something more stop cutting I can remember a few times where they were fighting and he's like you're going to make me go and get my gun you [ __ ] Just Give Me One Reason one reason to use this I [Music] swear he would wave it around just to scare my mom don't make me have to use this Debbie I was so scared like he was going to kill her no please Dad don't put the gun away dad he
's put away and he's like oh shut up and I'm not going to do [Music] anything I was just kind of scared and didn't know what to say and what I should and should not say so I didn't I didn't talk about it my dad's philosophy was you don't call the cops for anything you deal with the problem yourself and especially family family doesn't call cops another family something you don't do I never really I guess thought is you know other people different or do they do what my parents do but we were just
scared constantly living on edge who's getting out of [Music] hand when I came down my dad had a gun on her so I knew it was bad she was sitting on a stool she was like in the corner of the wall and the look in his eye was like I just want to kill somebody kind of crazy look and you knew that he was he was um very angry a put the gun to her head my dad told her sit there and think about what you have done and if you move I'm going to kill you [Music] my dad told her sit there and don't move we
just sat there and just waited it was very quiet nobody was saying anything time just dragged on and she just sat there for hours he was just so angry he told my mom that if she ever left that he would he would kill her I believed he was capable of killing her I thought he was crazy and I I believe that she believed that and I think that's a lot of reason why we [Music] [Music] stayed Lun the fighting got worse they were up more at night he always had a gun if he didn't carry it on him he would
have one in their bedroom he had one under the couch I didn't understand why he acted the way he did but he wasn't hisself anymore he just got so out of control so fast he didn't know how to go back he was too far gone and he was just on this road to [Music] destruction I had spent the night at a friend's house the next morning when we got home the house was rans sacked I can remember going into my room and he had completely took apart my closet there was just stuff [Music] everywhere looking fo
r something I don't know what you're talking about and he showed me this little pocket knife and he said I found this in your closet and your mom was hiding it there cuz she was going to kill me with it I know what you and your mom were planning it was so like paranoid out of his mind and he said and you're going to stay in here and you're going to clean all this up and and you're not going to come out until it's clean and I said no and he didn't like it one bit what did you just say to me and h
e said you're a [ __ ] just like your mom and that freaked me out I feel like he saw my mom you know my mom in me the characteristics of my mom and he was just so angry with her what was HE capable doing to me just like your mother and I was so scared my dad laid down on the couch to take a nap and I called my mom's friend and said please come pick us up he's saying all these awful things and I don't know what he's going to do please I was like pleading with her please come get us please come ge
t us right now please and we went into [Music] hiding after so many years and of fighting and arguing she had finally had enough we had stayed at my aunt J's house Debbie I brought you some extra towels okay thank you and I want you to know that you can stay here for as long as you need to okay I'm so sorry to put you out like this it's okay there's we had nothing one set of clothes and I just wondered when we were going to go home if we were going to go home no where are we going to live I just
want you all to be comfortable here all right I want you to make yourself at home what happens from here every day you wondered what was going to happen the next day all right I was hoping that when we left that it was going to be over he was so crazed to find us that's what he kept telling everyone I've got to find my kids I need to know where my kids were it was like an obsession for him he had to find us he wasn't quite sure where we [Music] were there was always tension wherever we were if
he finds us what's going to happen threats were being made everywhere so we we were [Music] scared think your St somebody had called and said that he might have gotten tipped off possibly where we were [Music] mom [Music] all right let's get your coat on Mom what's going on and he was looking for us your father's on his way here Mom what if he sees us through the window and I told everybody to get on the floor I said crawl I said do not stand up crawl on the floor and I can remember everybody go
ing out the back door it was dark I was definitely afraid I was praying please don't let him find us we just had to leave and at that time you weren't worried about things you're just worried about your [Music] life [Music] Lindsay how about you go join your brother upstairs we were staying at my aunt and uncle's she didn't really have anywhere else to go and that was her brother I'm just glad to see you're doing okay all right you're always welcome here so that's why we went there going into hi
ding and having to look over our shoulder all time just sent me into a bigger paranoia than ever and just the anxiety of thinking wonder where he's at but any little thing any noise horns and if we were outside I was constantly watching you know see if anybody was coming up the road and I was just waiting you know gather everybody if he were come and go run into the house cuz I was thinking he he will try to kill [Music] us and I can remember one morning early we're all in bed and all we hear is
honking he's just laying on the horn and we look out and his his truck is in the front yard and I'm like oh no he's [Music] here we were asleep and all of a sudden we just heard a horn and it was constant and we all jumped up in a panic and and we looked outside and there my dad was in the truck and on the front lawn just honking and [Music] honking I was just so startled everyone was peeking out and keep keeping an eye on him you didn't know what he was going to do he was very unpredictable an
d he always had a gun on him that's what was so scary I don't doubt that he was sitting out there laughing because that's just the type of person that he was and he just drove [Music] off he wanted us to know we weren't fooling him he knew exactly what was going on where we were at and that was why you were always in fear because he wanted you to be on your toes at all times he didn't want you to forget who he was it's a predator prey kind of thing I'm here and I'm not going anywhere [Music] I f
elt there was no going back things had just escalated and just got worse and worse and I didn't feel like anything was going to get better I didn't really know what was going to happen I remember one night laying in bed you know and I was just thinking you know if he would disappear or just go away and he'd never come back it it would be so much more [Music] [Music] [Music] peaceful it was just a loud boo and I woke up in a panic it's kind of when you wake up out of a deep sleep and you have a b
ad dream or something you're like something bad was happening and I can remember my mom she had a gun and I never had seen her have a gun before I knew right then something was wrong [Music] she went to the door and my dad was coming down the hall he has camouflage paint on his face he's dressed in camouflage clothes from head to toe I'd never seen that look in his eyes that day it's like a lunatic crazed she sh shot him with that that gun she had but he was shocked and I think he said Debbie yo
u shot me and here I am kind of just standing in the background it was like an outside of the body experience seeing all that but I do remember saying please don't shoot mom M because he he was mad no Daddy D he told me to shut up and then he shot [Music] her and then she [Music] fell I said I'm calling the cops I'm calling the police [Music] went to the living room and the phone was already off no dial tone nothing hello hello he apparently I cut the phone lines before he entered the house I sa
w my dad start running out the back door and Seth was running after him I don't know where he went and all I could think about was getting out there and calling the [Music] police I could see him laying on the floor he was laying face down and I knew at that point I I realized he was dead so I run out the front door and my aunt's laying there um completely sced out and she's face down and I was in such a panic I just took off to the [Music] neighbor I had no idea where he went he could have been
right outside the door nobody knew I was just hoping somebody would get there fast and I can remember thinking the whole time please my mom's [Music] [Music] alive this is a cute photo me and my mom she was a good mom and she was a hard worker and she wanted the best for us I miss her smile she's very pretty she was smart I just miss Mom you know having a mom that's what I miss most this is my um Uncle Tony and my aunt Natalie and it's just sad looking at these because they were so young they w
ere in their late 20s and they had so much more Life to Live they were just trying to help [Music] he did what he did and that's what had to happen but he blamed me for getting the death penalty it was my testimony that put him where he was and it was my fault he he did deserve it he told me at one point I'm sorry for killing your mom but I'm not sorry for killing your aunt and your uncle because they manipulated this whole situation and they deserved what they [Music] got I was really hesitant
to go because I hadn't seen him in so long fear said in and I thought he's going to die so what does he got to lose I could see him in a cell and he just looked angry and agitated I don't know what he's going to do when I get into this cell with [Music] him anytime he could just snap my neck and nobody could get in here fast enough to get him off of me I will be [Music] dead my dad was on death row I knew the end was near tonight the debate is heating up as an Indiana death row inmate is just ho
urs away from execu tion Matthew Eric wrinkles is said di by lethal injection early tomorrow morning at that point I really didn't have a relationship with him and I hadn't really I hadn't seen him in years wrinkles killed his estranged wife and two of her relatives in Evansville back in 1994 wrinkles is not expected to make any last minute appeals I thought should I go should I not go I don't want to have any regrets after he's gone he's gone can't be like well I wish I would have said this I w
ish I would have asked him this but I wanted to come to peace with it I felt like I needed a reaction from him I wanted to know if he ever changed his mind about being sorry so I felt like I needed to go December 10th 2009 Mike about hour I am glad that I went because what I was expecting and what I saw was two different things he wasn't that person that I knew him to be want tell both I love miss his demeanor and his attitude was different he still had that arrogant about him um but he seemed c
almer I was shocked he actually said look I'm sorry for what I [Music] did maybe this ma'am sort of remorse wor about it and he did feel bad he told me he was suffering throughout the years he said that my mom would come to haunt him in his dreams at night and that was enough for me that's what I wanted to hear I didn't stay for the execution I left there's no way I could have endured that it was hard to say goodbye he said he loved me and he was proud of me and that that made me very emotional
I felt like I was losing my dad all over again as mad as I was he was still my dad I'm sure there's a lot of people that question have questioned how could she forgive him it doesn't really bother me because I know what I know and I feel what I feel I made peace with that and got my closure when I walked out of that prison I didn't look back I just kept going it's all of it today a new day for everybody on all of us all three of us I don't even really think about about him at all I haven't quest
ioned if he's in heaven or hell I just know he's [Music] [Music] gone I'm fearful I in fear I am constantly Liv in fear every day I think something bad is going to happen especially to my husband or my kids when I'm home alone in the daytime I flip open a blind and I'm constantly watching outside all day like I want to know what cars are driving down the road so there's some nights where I'm laying in bed and I hear a noise then that starts the whole paranoia thing is there somebody outside does
somebody want to get in what will I do where will I hide it could be something different every day and I feel it's just God's way of saying not everything in life is going to be great there are reasons why you go through these try to be strong I just want to let people know that regardless of what you you go through you can make a better life for yourself there's always hope for a better future what happens to you doesn't Define you unless you want it to I blame my dad for the life that I had t
o live but looking at it now if I was isn't where I am today I wouldn't have met my husband and had my kids so I'm glad I'm at where I'm at [Music] today e e it's hard for me to think about what happened at night um cuz it was really traumatic everything was like normal like and I'm sleeping and that's when someone comes onto my bed and then they grab my [Music] mouth still hard for me to tell the story I got this call from my brother he sounded terrified seeing like everything like all the crim
e scene stuff set up and the police everywhere was just it was just unreal I was just an utter like just utter [Music] shock I'm here to find out one thing what kind of person are you right now we don't know is Magie the type of guy that a hard cold calculated murderer or are you the type of guy that made a mistake you're you're one of those two people not too long ago I wrote him a letter I basically implored him to um try to save his soul and confess and repent but I haven't heard back from hi
m if I could say anything to him I wouldn't just ask him to finally on his heart to please come forward if he could just help me and my brother and my family to find closure that's all we asked [Music] [Music] for [Music] this one's a picture of all of us at the zoo I remember these times these were pretty good times this picture kind of sums it up a little bit I mean my dad looks more serious but my mom definitely loves hanging out with us it takes me back I have some good memories but it's har
d to look at pictures with my dad in it I feel a even animals and things like that like look out for their offspring I like my father like just did not care for anything this guy is inhumane and there's only one place in in society for people like this and this is in jail and this is exactly where he's going to remain for the rest of his [Music] life I used to go out to the park a lot by myself during like a early age and I used to kind of play with just like the bigger kids and stuff that were
there one day I was playing basketball and someone like took my basketball I went home where are you going come here my dad was very very verbal to us so if we did something wrong he would let us know right then and there you missing something where's that basketball it someone took it someone stole that ball from you uh my dad was feel me mad you need to learn how to stand up for yourself what is wrong with you he was really pissed his response was like you're you're a little punk you're going
to let someone uh do that to you you do nothing I I think in a sense the ball wasn't the issue it was more just like my my character I was you know like in his eyes like not tough enough for him you have to listen to me you have to stand up and be a man my dad's instructions were no we're getting your ball back come on you we going to the courts you're going to fight this person whoever took you come on let's go pleas I just remember being like really fearful he took me down to the park U where
I lost the basketball at and pretty much like started going off and wanted me to like fight everyone there I my dad was trying to teach me a lesson of um standing up for yourself but that was like a a harsh lesson it took me pretty much my whole childhood to to learn that talk out my problems instead of resorting to violence [Music] my dad when he would get upset it would pretty much he' look calm look cool just breaks and then he's just just all reasoning is like [Music] out my dad didn't reall
y spend money on anybody he was beyond Frugal he was just really cheap so I didn't have like certain cool things that like other kids had like one of the kids in the class had this really cool Karate Kid headband I stole it from him and my dad found out so he told me go to your room so I went to my room I just remember looking out the window and I saw him going out there I was like what the I was like what's he doing and then I realized I was like oh man he's like looking for a branch for the ro
se [Music] bush he found like a big branch that had a bunch of thorns on it and then it's like Dawning in my mind like oh shoot I'm about to get whooped on with this thing I was terrified and then I just see him like start to come in the house I'm like oh shoot he just came in just started whing on me I'm sorry I'm sorry his eyes wouldn't be like normal eyes it would be like like it would just bug out like how could you and they just boom boom boom and just start raging into it no son of M the y
ou stole this how could you do that please stop I do it again he would hit me until he ran as team or until I cried to the point where he would just it would kind of cause him to like deescalate a [Music] bit he would just go to his room we didn't really talk about it no more the wild thing is I grew up with so much of that stuff that for the longest I didn't even think it was a big deal but it was like the actual whooping of it wasn't even the worst part it was just the fear of seeing him cutti
ng the the rose [Music] branch my father loved money and it was borderline to worshiping it money was more important to him than my mom than to him than God I remember one day um me and my little brother were in the bedroom and I could hear my mom and dad like arguing I work hard for my money Maggie I should at least have a say in how we spend it what so you can be frous how your police there was a lot of fights in the house about finances he would just take her paycheck and just literally just
give her like small amounts like $5 and that was it mag I'm should be wearing down they are for what they have for you next you know it really escalated you disrespectful woman you make me sick get away baby please and then it sounded like I heard my mom start yelling for help like she was in distress stop please you're hurting me it sounded like my mom was yelling for help and my dad was trying to cover her [Music] mouth I was just kind of there with Ryan you know and I think Ryan was really yo
ung so he was really scared and all we could hear is like screaming yelling [Music] I remember my mom saying like call 911 I was like too scared to even step out of the room so I was just at the doorway just listening like to what was going on and I was just like I didn't know what to [Music] do get away from me please she was like Yellen help help call 911 call the police I was like just really scared and Frozen I wish I could have just picked up the phone and called 911 but I was really like s
cared of my dad I couldn't even Envision what he would have done if he saw me on the phone with 911 he literally might have just like put me in a hospital or worse and then it was like just pitch silent and then I remember my mom just come into the room she was like really subdued and um she was just really sad she was like why didn't you call like for the police Richard didn't you hear me calling you I'm sorry I was like I'm sorry I was just really scared and then I think she kind of realized t
oo that I was just like too scared to do anything it's okay it's not your fault when I look back on that incident I think my mom hit the point where she was just fed up with everything with dealing with my dad and the way that he was treating her don't worry about it but then then Egypt divorce is like taboo like it just it's something completely frowned upon so between the cultural and religious pools I think it was like really hard on my mom she couldn't really just up and leave and just go I
was working and I remember my Mom calling me that she wasn't going to be able to pick me up that night and she was always the one to pick me up from work I kind of had like a gut feeling that things were just like out of the ordinary Mom where you at when I got back to the house this was the first time I actually like saw my mom like like battered by my [Music] dad you okay what happened ask your father my dad had hit my mom with like a closed Fist and a hit her eye and you could already tell th
at there was like a lot of swelling okay he fractured her eye socket was definitely one of the the most traumatic times of my life oh my God Richard must have walked in the door within like minutes after after that I came in mom what happened to you I got home and I remember going in and my brother was down there and my mom was sitting in the kitchen Mom this is really bad be okay nose was bleeding and she was like trying to like still stop the blood and I was really concerned I was like what ha
ppened did Dad do this to you he lost his temper you know she told me that they had been gotten an argument and then he punched her in the face I was pretty upset and it really concerned me cuz her nose was still bleeding this was like at least an hour or so out from the incident and it was still bleeding so I immediately thought to myself like I have to take her to the hospital come on let's go it said a whole Cascade of events cuz the nurse at the hospital was obligated to call the police poli
ce and let him know about the domestic violence I don't think my mom realized that her telling them at the hospital would lead to him being [Music] arrested when me and my mom got home the cops were there what's going on your husband is under arrest man they went upstairs and they pretty much put him in handcuffs and brought I remember he was stilling his pajamas and Barefoot he was like well can't I put my slippers on and they're like they're like nope I want you at least to me get dressed not
going to happen sir I felt really scared cuz I didn't know what was going on I didn't know that the police were going to come and take him away I've never seen a look in his face like that before he was just so pissed off as he walked by I just remember him looking at me and telling me that this is all cuz of you this is your fault and then the cops just took him right out they were charging him with domestic violence the restraining order was just automatically kicked in my dad wasn't allowed a
nywhere near her or the house that was a very scary Point CU I just knew that lives would never be the same [Music] my mom was considering a divorce she kept on swaying back and forth because she loved my dad and he was really manipulative he tried to spend time with me and Richard he tried several times to like just reach out to us and tell us that he loved us it seemed like he was wasn't bent on Revenge at the time but he was more trying to just get everything back together and kind of make pe
ace with everything that it put me at EAS a bit one day um during the time that the domestic violence case was moving forward the police came over to the house they had an anonymous letter we um we thought you should take a look at this the letter said something along the lines of you know I'm a concerned neighbor and I just wanted to inform you guys that um Mei has been trying to like find somebody to kill his [Music] wife they wanted to stay Anonymous and just let them know this was something
that my dad was thinking about we don't know who it's from there's no name on the envelope and there's no return address so the police were asking like do you know who might wrot it and you know I didn't really have a clue do you recognize the handw running does it look familiar to you I knew he was capable of harsh things and like even borderline heinous things but not not not murder this doesn't sound like my dad enough to do something like that he seems to be okay right now at least when I ta
lk to him things have just been blown out of proportion really this doesn't sound like mying all right well we're going to keep tabs on you guys a part of me was just seeing what you know what I wanted to see which was that they would work things out that he wasn't such a horrible person I wish I would have taken that letter more serious but didn't and it's like I totally misread [Music] him I hear like a door [Music] open and that's when someone comes onto my bed and then they grab my mouth now
[Music] no uh remember the power getting cut off it was one of those things that we just we didn't see it coming there was light on the house and it literally just got like went straight dark what's going on my mom she got really paranoid and she was like oh my God why aren't the lights turning on Ryan I don't I don't like this her kind of like pacing back and forth and stuff like oh my gosh oh my gosh trying to test like life switches and stuff like that why why AR why aren't they working I do
n't know it's not a blackout everyone else seems to have life how is this possible my father loved money and he's so cheap I just thought he stopped paying the bill don't s dad probably forgot to pay the bills it's just not a shock to me that he would cut the power out on even us as his kids I'll figure it out I have an [Music] idea I knew my dad had a bunch of paperwork and shoe boxes underneath the bed well as I was going through the paperwork I found out a lot of bank statements for various a
ccounts that my mom had no clue about [Music] at first I was like just seeing like accounts that were smaller like they had like couple thousand a few thousand but then I hit one it was some Platinum saving CD and when I looked at the total of that I was like whoa there's 100,000 in this mom come here that we found started piecing together that like there's quite a bit of money that's there look at this [Music] I don't I don't understand what is this we're not talking about just a few thousand h
ere and there but we're talking about like hundreds of thousands I was pretty shocked believe this why would he keep this from me half of that should be yours there's a ton of money here it's like you know if you got a divorce this is half is yours I don't think she even realized that that was how it worked he was trying to steal from us [Music] she was in the dark on everything finding all those statements and all that stuff kind of made her even more upset I cannot believe he did this to me th
at really set my mom in motion too where she was like enough's enough she was just [Music] done he started to me seemed to start mellowing out a bit when I graduated nursing school I saw my dad he came by and I was like man it seems kind of weird doesn't it like dad seems like extra chill like like man he's not normally like that that was really nice that was really nice it was kind of how I was hoping that their divorce would be just amable like around each other I could have a relationship wit
h him and a relationship with her like normal people when they divorce I had thought that he had just come to terms with everything and just kind of like you know found peace or something with it but looking back on it maybe that was when he kind of like made his mind up like that's it the the whole night everything repeats in my head a I don't like to talk about it too much just because it was so traumatic to me I came home late that night made my way upstairs fell asleep in my bed everything w
as like normal and that's when I hear like a door [Music] open I'm thinking in my head like oh it's probably richer just to check in on me or whatever that's when someone comes onto my bed and then they grab my [Music] mouth I bit down on the hand and then from there I quickly realized that this person was much bigger than me who are you when a second person comes into the room no no no stop my mouth was getting taped my hands were getting duct taped behind my back and then also my feet were get
ting uh duct tap I was pleading um like please don't kill me please don't kill me and then that's when um I see my mom like coming down the [Music] hall she um is yelling like uh frantically um like take anything that you want that's when the second guy like grabs my mom and takes her towards like her room just don't hurt him please please please the first suspect like grabbed me and then like put me into the [Music] closet I didn't hear anything else [Music] after I felt heless I was like just
survival mode I was trying to like get my hands to like break free I got the tape off my mouth started like unbounding my my feet grabb my phone and I ran straight down the hall and I remember looking to the right like a quick like glance like towards like my mom's door it wasn't open so I didn't want to see who was going to be on the other side cuz I didn't know if they were still in my house so I just ran straight out of the [Music] house I want emergency someone just robed their house they br
oke him they they T me and my mom is everybody okay I don't know they just beat me up I don't know where my mom is they're like don't make me have to kill you we'll kill you don't get your mom kill she's telling me to go back to the house and I'm telling her I don't I'm not going to go back I was scared though people are still in my house you have no idea who this is right no too guys I called Richard and I let him know and immediately he was just like oh my God I'm I'm I'm rushing in there righ
t now and I I also phoned my dad too I've never heard my little brother sound like a scared or as terrified as he did when he called me up on the phone I try to get it back to the house as fast as possible and I was like where the hell is mom like you know I was like really thinking like where the hell is she you know like what the heck's going on I was really nervous if he found out that I was like doing a wire tap against him oh my gosh that would have been horrible he might have killed me [Mu
sic] the cops came and they told me like we're going to need to take you to the station and we got to ask you some questions and then they just started asking like a bunch of questions like where were you I went to my girlfriend's after work then my brother called me and your girlfriend does she live near your mother's house I totally felt like a suspect it was super scary why does it matter because we're running an investigation I just remember hitting a point where I was like all right I'm not
answering any more questions to you guys tell me what's going on where's my mom at I just I remember one of the detectives like he was just he was just really blunt with me he was like you know she's dead she was murdered they basically stabbed her to death it just hit me so hard I was just in in just utter shock up to that point I thought it was just a robbery I thought they just broke in to steal some stuff I couldn't believe that my mom was murdered no no please um and [Music] my sorry man i
t's like bringing a lot of old emotions I heard Richard just like just scream like to the top of his lungs pleas [Music] no and I didn't know Richard was like in like a room next to me or anything I just heard him like scream out of the blue that's when they um told me that my mom she had passed away was just like in complete shock just felt like a sense of like emptiness like right away just didn't make sense this is my mother ariot Gus I like seeing pictures of my mom it definitely brings um a
lot of memories back in into life she's very beautiful in the picture the holidays were really big around my mom like prepared for looks like it was actually before she got married it's like she was like younger and really vibrant she was just an amazing person like very soft-hearted very sweet I don't know what kind of evil person or people could do that kind of stuff [Music] I was told that the police had to go there and actually get him from work and bring him in to question him he still wen
t to work he didn't even he didn't even like take the day off or anything he just he just went to work and he had known about it cuz my little brother had called him up even if they were going through a divorce and whatnot I mean my goodness you still check on the person and you know is is Mom okay is are you okay like I what is that this impossible sorry sir I I started getting suspicious of my dad you know I called him right after I called you I found him after calling 9911 my dad picked up th
e phone at about 4:00 in the morning um off of the like about the first ring and he picked him just like [Music] that his phone was all the way in the living room so that means that he had to have got out of bed and walked down the hall and go to the living room to pick up if he wasn't already up then I don't know how he picked up so fast was almost like he was like waiting for a phone call so I was very suspicious about him you happening you don't understand he was crying but to me it just look
ed like it just felt fake I just felt no like real emotional connection with him I just couldn't stop thinking that he had something to do with it [Music] we we went back several times to talk to the police and express to them how I was like really starting to think that my dad had something to do with it and they expressed to me too that you know we think that he might to but we don't have the evidence so the cops basically like brought up the idea like of wearing a [Music] wire to like you kno
w talk with my dad and see if there's any information or anything I met up with my [Music] dad I was really nervous if he found out that I was like doing a wi tap against him oh my gosh I would been horrible he might have killed me how's it going with you and your brother I was walking a real tight rope because I didn't want him to be suspicious that I thought he had murdered mom I was just thinking about [Music] it everybody loved Mom it doesn't make sense why her I was trying to kind of be mor
e like I can't believe this happened who do you think would do something like this it was probably all just [Music] random he wasn't really telling me like much of anything look it's best if we just put this behind us he spent a lot of time talking about like oh you need to just move on and he talked about like the house needs to be like maintained The Yards still needs to be done and I mean mom's literally just been murdered who gives about the [Music] [Music] house we decided that it was best
to move up north we had family from my mom's side up north that was able to take us in and at least give us some time to like get back on our feet we cut off contact with our father pretty much right after moving we didn't want him to know where we moved we kept in contact with the police very often what's going on what's going on and then we later on found out that it was like turning into like a Cold Case [Music] these two gang members approaching dad trying to get money out of them for [Music
] something 1500 I have me it turns out that was actually part of the undercover police team as time went on I started being like really frustrated my dad's just out there like going about his life and nobody's been brought to justice for what they did to my mom I was feeling at that time like this thing's not going to get solved I don't want them to stop investigating this so I started writing letters to like different like news agencies and stuff we wrote uh the governor's office I wrote to al
l the different Congress people I think we gathered like over a thousand letters and um friends friends people that didn't even know us were like you know we're trying to we're trying to Hope and compassionate and stuff about it I think I need a little timeout if it's okay [Music] it just was really tough on our family because we felt like we had a clear suspect but we weren't getting any [Music] answers but one day I received a phone call from my dad's girlfriend she had left me a voicemail and
she was just going frantic some gang members had uh shown up to the house she was referencing that they like the people that like came and broken in your house and then it just made my heart race I literally dropped what I was doing and I falling the police right away hello I need to speak to whoever's working the area G case cuz I was like oh my gosh we have like a a break in the case they're like okay okay we'll we'll look into it Ryan I promise we'll look into it calling back to hear anythin
g I learned later that that was s operation that two cops were opposed those gang members it out [Music] kill they were just pretty much trying to get like some hush [Music] money my dad uh takes their phone number next day he calls them up and arranges a meeting in person everything 1500 I have my dad agrees to make the payment he doesn't deny anything in the video when you see that video right there it clearly shows you that he's guilty it really hurts me whenever I see that that footage becau
se I always feel like to deny things and it's it's really heartbreaking to see I 1500 I have me I mean that's just a showing of how cheap my dad is he's still trying to like I don't have that much money I like trying to negotiate it down as cheap as possible it falls right in step with the kind of person he is that line I paid you already for everything really set in stone that like this guy like had my mom [Music] killed yeah this is exactly how I last saw my dude this must have been the day th
at he got arrested I have no sympathy for this guy right here this this guy's not my dad right here this guy right here is a liar this guy right here is a [Music] criminal this mug shot's like just sad I don't even know what to say about this picture it's [Music] just I feel like this is a picture of what happens when you get caught up in just pure greed and and evil it's like just like man why why' you do it it's like you know you had so much going in your [Music] life [Music] he was the person
who broke in that night and and tied me up they were able to track him down with the DNA evidence they ran it through and it had a hit in the system since he was already um incarcerated for another [Music] it's hard for me to fom the thought that my dad knows exactly who is responsible for the murder and won't give him up not too long ago I wrote him a letter and I basically implored him to um to just confess he's in jail he's convicted but at least he could could try to save his soul and confe
ss and repent but I haven't heard back from [Music] him my mom's murder case is still open I pray every day that we still catch the Slayer at least got some justice at least we caught one person and we caught our dad and regardless of what happens here Justice is going to be served whether here on Earth or afterwards there's just as going to be served one way or [Music] [Music] another e e [Music] it's been a long time since I've talked about this I spent a lot of time her most of my life been a
policeman 35 years and uh 20 years ago when when this happened uh people didn't believe me I got some family members who don't want to talk about it it's been said and done it's over forget about it but clay was part of our history yes clay was evil at [Music] times but yeah I still love him you [Music] know it looked like police officers behind every tree in the woods I mean they were just gun barrels were pointed at clay if he starts moving that rifle towards any of those officers they're goi
ng to unload on him and they're just going to feel him full of holes then I'm going to watch my brother die I feel like I'm the one that has to try to do something to stop him but this expression on his face and those eyes just told me volumes that he my little brother is evil [Music] [Music] for on July the 7th 1965 my my father died in a plane crash and uh on that day my grandfather held my hands in his hands and he goes Walt you're the man of the family you're [Music] it you don't have a dadd
y now your brothers don't have a daddy you're the oldest you got to take care of [Music] them he just ingrained in me I was supposed to look after my mother and my younger [Music] brothers and from that time on I just kind of my stepfather um he married my mother four or five years after my real father died and Clay was a was the joy of Our Lives when he was first born that's little brother he's about 3 years old probably one of the most beautiful children you'll ever see in your life in my opin
ion just didn't have a mean bone in his body I was about 13 when he was born me being the oldest uh I would know take care of clay uh if he need to be fed I'd feed him if you need to diaper change I changed him and I was glad to do it I wanted to do it I just love that kid I really [Music] did [Music] clay had a hard time in school he just couldn't control his temper at times and one time he got his nose broke uh in a fight and Mom said she was starting to worry about him she would asked me to g
o talk T hey clay I was working as a police officer and I guess Mom looked at me I could be an authority figure for him mom was worried about you somebody's got to take care of them can't do that clay you got to you got to walk away as hard as it is I so clay I can understand one or two fights at school a year but this is an ongoing thing and Mom's getting tired of it she don't know what to do with you sometimes you just got to be the bigger man and walk away and he said I'm not going to take an
y much crap and I said clay getting in trouble like this is is not going to get you anywhere and it's all going to cause you more problems you know but there is very little reaction you got to promise me you're not going to let this kind of thing happen again I knew he was a little more aggressive than most kids once he lost his temper but I didn't think it would turn into what it [Music] did [Music] he never did very well in school but he started doing even worse and um he came home drunk one o
r two times that I remember and he went from alcohol to marijuana home my walk in the house and I immediately just smelled dope in the house and clay and one of his friends was sitting on the livering couch just as high as and then he had a over an ounce bag of a pot on the coffee table he had the same symptoms as people I used to arrest what the hell is this the hell do it look like he didn't show respect to anyone and Clay can never see the uh consequences of it his actions so I thought you kn
ow he it's time for get a little lesson so I call the Sheriff's Office and tell him hey he's got a couple of ounces on him I don't want you to come out here and arrest him come on W we're just having a little fun he said man W you don't have to send me to jail man why do you want to do that I said your butt needs to go to jail that's where you need to be I was trying to scare him away from his evil activities his buddy was scared but clay just he sat there kind of gave me the evil look you could
n't scare him with anything you couldn't threaten him with taking him to jail or taking something away from him just didn't care he just didn't that was his [Music] attitude well they never showed up I called him twice never showed up so I just took the dope and I blush it down the toilet and uh you know I clay is uh the way a lot of my friends were back at that age Bo I was I thought he was just one of the many that [Music] Rebels at first Roy seemed to be a pretty good guy mom seemed to love h
im but uh he just started getting a little meaner probably one of the worst nights uh I remember um I was at the house all of a sudden uh I heard my mother and Roy screaming and hollering at each other upstairs when I walked into the bedroom to see what was going on what's going on Roy was on one side of the bed my mom was on the other side the room [Music] crying time to go relax see he hit me wal he hit me get him out get him out relax relax time to go his bedroom and he heard every bit of it
I just glanced at him as we were walking past and he was just standing there had his big blue eyes and and they were filled with tears years I didn't say anything to him he didn't say anything to me but he was becoming more angry at our house we had a gun cabinet it wasn't locked we didn't have any doors on it was just a a box where we you could just lay your rifle shotgun [Music] in I came home one day to my mother's house and Clay was in a rage and crying at the same time and he grabbed a shot
gun and he started loading it and this is the summertime there's no hunting in the summertime what are you [Music] doing I'm going to kill him he was determined to shoot Roy come on let's put that gun down look at me don't clay what so I grab a shotgun from him and he was pulling on the gun trying to get away from me so he could go shoot his [Music] daddy give me the I'm going to shoot him he was pulling on the gun with me trying to get away from me so he could go shoot his [Music] daddy I final
ly Jerk it Out of his hands I grabbed him by the collar and just we just went outside and and we talked but he was in a rage I couldn't uh settle him down to talk to him I'm going to kill him what are you thinking I'm going to kill him I said clay you don't want to do that your dad and I have had our problems you know I said don't want to do that yeah I do I want to kill him you got to you got to look at me man actions have consequences Brother come on if he was had been physically big enough an
d strong enough to overpower [Music] me I think he would have shot somebody after his dad left Mom h he just was so withdrawn he he just wasn't the kid he was prior to that I remember one time I go home and no one's home and and there were these satanic drawings pentagrams and Satan lives you know I love Lucifer that kind of stuff and um that's it's not right in my mind you know that's evil that's the contrast of God our mother came home I said have you seen this she said no not really I just as
s it was school work I said look at [Music] this she was stunned she was a gas and she said I had no idea this was in here hey when clay came in the house he could tell by the way Mom and I were looking at him that uh something was wrong and when he realized that I saw his drawings I mean he just wanted to come at me those are M what are you doing that's my stuff you have no right to my stuff he's just going off no stop it I said clay what are you thinking this is our mother's house she doesn't
approve of it I don't approve of it we're not going to have it and I just pipped him up no he blew up again you know you know I don't mess with your stuff that of my stuff and that was really a uh probably one of the major turning points after that day clay didn't really like me at all her mom lived we hunted on her property quite a bit and not too far from her house I was walking on this Trail and uh I saw the remains of a [Music] dog and the inals of the dog like the intestines it looked like
they were spread out over in kind of a circular [Music] diagram there was some marks drawn in the dirt and some formations made out of [Music] rocks I ran to the house and I said mom said Somebody's dog is on your property over there and I said is uh looks like somebody geted in clay chuckled I said you know turned to him said you know something about this hey yeah I said what are you talking about he said wal he said I don't believe that Jesus stuff anymore he said this Lucifer you know he's Sa
tan he's the man and then clay admitted he and couple of his buddies sacrificed a dog for Satan and he said he he did it more than once he said he's killed other animals he love to hang cats and and uh just watched them squir until they died thought he's [Music] nuts I didn't want to believe him you know we grew up with animals you know dogs cats dugs he never exhibited anything like that before he anim pictures like this that remind me that he did like animals that he did he was affectionate to
wards animals he never showed any animosity or or anger or anything towards an animal that I ever saw mom got clay to go to church with her one time and it took I me he he grabbed a hold of it and from the time he was 16 till he was 22 he was all about Jesus he knew the Bible by verse better than I did this was when he was serving Jesus he was he was a gly young man at this time and he just took a bird and off of us now we knew that he was going to bigger and better things this this is what we w
ant him to become for the rest of his life you [Music] know [ __ ] is boy stop it he was looking dead at me and like that and I knew that in order for me to to stop him I going to have to hit him Bo stop it [Music] no this is my little brother Clay he was 22 years old right here his eyes look dull this is when he was going back to his old self he didn't talk about church as much he didn't talk about Satan but he didn't talk about Jesus either and he would just have a sustained [Music] anger Ther
e You Go Mama a thank you sweetie you're welcome it's so good to see you yeah I wish I could come by more often I remember I went to visit mom and we were just talking I happened to look over to my left and there was a a brand new guitar on a guitar stand in the living room this is nice is this CL so I would pick the guitar up and I was just strumming the guitar just playing a few chords and uh I heard that Clay's door just slam [Music] open and he came just strutting out down the hallway of the
house put that down and Clay grabs the neck of the guitar tries to jerk away from give my [Music] guitar you RAR his back like he's fixing to punch me and before I even realized it I just smacked him upside the head and when I hit him I hit him harder been what I intended to clay clay are you okay honey clay come here man and I said I CL I'm sorry I'm sorry I shouldn't hit you like that and uh you know he said okay okay he said just forget it and uh he grabbed the guitar and took it into his ro
om and locked the door I knock on his bedroom door clay come on man I said clay I'm sorry would you come out here and talk to me I'm sorry you know I shouldn't have done that no answer he just had his door locked he didn't he didn't want to talk to me at [Music] all several years after he said uh I've got something I need to tell you he said you remember the time we had the fight over the guitar and you hit me he said you remember when I didn't uh went next the door when you knocked on the door
and you didn't want I didn't want to talk to you I said yeah I it well he said well the devil Lucifer told me to load my shotgun and come out there and shoot and kill you and Mom come on man I'm sorry I didn't mean to hit you that [Music] hard the was telling the devil he's not going to do it I said are you serious he said well I'm dead serious Satan told me to kill you and Mom and I loaded my shotgun as I walk there and shoot you and Mom do doing he was struggling with good or evil and good one
that day he uh stole some things from a neighbor and my mother asked me if I could go to court with him he was found guilty of the charges and the judge asked me what do I recommend your honor he needs to take responsibility for his ACS immediately without hesitation said I think clay needs the maximum and the reason for that was because I thought there was still hope for clay if the penalty was severe enough if he could feel the consequences of his actions it might straighten him out it might
knock some of the hardness off of him play was standing to my left and I could see my peripheral vision he turned and he gave me that evil look he hated me at that moment I mean he absolutely just couldn't stand the sight of me like judg he didn't give him the maximum he gave him a fine restitution but he didn't do any jail time when clay and I left the courtroom he just had rage all in him I I could just see it and feel it he Walt I want to tell you something I just love to break into somebody'
s house and just tiptoe around there and just watch people sleeping just to know that I can kill them anytime I want to just to know that that I can walk out of here at this room and either leaving them alive or leaving them dead I said did you hurt anybody did you kill any he said no I didn't hurt anybody he said but it just me just to know that you can it's just for the thrill of it I didn't tell anybody that I didn't I didn't tell our mother that to have your younger brother actually talk abo
ut what he could do to somebody I didn't want to believe that he really would we didn't talk for a long time [Music] Misty was probably 20 years old she was just a nice girl you know and uh she seemed very sweet very honest very Innocent but their relationship was it became [Music] volatile the police went over to Clay Misty's home several times where it slapped her or beat her or threatened her or uh did something he wasn't supposed to I knew what his temper was but I didn't think clay could ki
ll anybody I didn't want to believe it hello one day my mother called and said that uh Walt I need to talk to you about clay calm down and my first statement was well what's he done now I think he might have actually killed somebody mom said clay told her that he may have killed Misty [Music] March 28th 1998 I got a phone call from our mother Mom calm down Walt I need to talk to you about clay I heard fear in her voice for the first time in a long time what's he done and she said clay told me th
at he thinks he's done something real bad he's not sure I I just don't know how to help him and she said he came to my home I noticed he was all scratched up Clay what's wrong he had scratches all over his face and arms and she said he told her I want $1,500 so I can go to Mexico he kept repeating it I think I've done something bad I think I've killed a bunch of people I said Do you believe him she said I don't know but when I refused to give him some money he was very angry and he left maybe he
hit somebody in there in the hospital and I thought it was anything but murder all right Mom I'm going to get down to the bottom of this [Music] I'm a place I carry a pistol wherever I go and if Clay is on a a killing Rampage and if he points a gun at me there's a good chance I'm I'm going to shoot back I need to find out any more information that might be available so I called the local sheriff's office it's what I said Sheriff if I'm I'm Walt Chavis I'm uh Kay Smith's brother I got to talk to
you about my brother Clay is where you at and when he asked that question I knew in my heart in my soul there was something to this that he probably did kill somebody he didn't say a word I just follow him in into his office have a seat he hand me a stack of papers about 2 in have a look and I saw five warrants for capital murder on my brother and I'm looking at the names I I I didn't know who they were I didn't recognize mist's name I saw her name in black and white but it didn't register to m
e who she was at that time I wasn't coping with with what I was just given readily I said you think he killed five people they are absolutely positively sure he did starting with the same counties coroners report same patterns he said we're going to go looking for him he said I have a question for you are you willing to help us find your little brother and and I thought my little brother murdered all these people I said my God in heaven and I said yes I will help you any way I can thank [Music]
you when we arrived six or eight officers at one time started hauling on the radar he's running he's running he's running he's got a gun he's got a gun when I heard the word gun first they're running they're hitting the woods they're all carrying weapons shotguns rifles pistols it was Panic D that I was riding with he said you don't go anywhere you stay right here 20 minutes felt like hours I heard a lot of shouting I couldn't out what it was I just knew someone was going to get shot or killed w
hen I heard over the radio is his brother still with you and he said yes he said braing him here I saw my little brother standing a little clearing don't come closer to me hey I see you over there don't [Music] you it looked like police officers behind every tree in the woods I mean they were just gun barrels rep pointed at clay hey St there you had a rifle in his hand I knew if he starts moving that rifle towards any of those officers they're going to unload on him you're just going to feel him
full of holes then I'm going to watch my brother die I felt like I'm the one that has try to do something to stop him clay I got within about 20 ft of him and he said wal what the hell are you doing here like it was a a joyous reunion hey W how you doing hey clay how you doing man hey I said clay you tell me what you're doing here and he just gave out the the biggest roaring laugh I've ever heard in my life he said what don't you know I sent three to heaven and two to hell I said clay you don't
have the authority to send anybody to heaven or to hell I said what can I do to make you put that gun down he said nothing I'm willing to die are you willing to die wal come on come on Clay it's just you and me here talking all right I don't have the words I don't have the vocabulary to explain it to you I've look into the eyes of a lot of criminals in my time and this expression on his face and those eyes just told me volumes that he my little brother is evil clay come on I started talking to
him just about stuff just you know members of our family I man I said what do you think Mom's going to think break her heart What About Misty yester that he that just kind of hit home and he he relaxed a little bit he went from this to this I thought okay I'll be able to walk up to him you know and just take the gun from him or he'll hand it to me and it'll be [Music] over and as he was lowering the gun boom shot rang out and and it hit him hit him right in here right below his shoulder and it s
pun him around I was the closest one team and I ran over their team and from the bicep to the tricep as part of his arm was gone they had on standby and uh they put him on the gney and I heard the medic saying well this is bad this is bad I just couldn't comprehend is is this really happening is this really happening am I really here did I just see my little brother get shot [Music] that's one of the bodies had something that I wish I could forget for the rest of my life I've seen hundreds and m
aybe a couple of thousand deaths but the crime scenes that I worked in the past as a police officer um I didn't have any feeling for it you know or very little I was trying to do a job nothing like this this is this is [Music] [Music] personal this is the first time in 20 years I've seen her pictures this is Misty [Music] this is Samantha she's the babysitter and this is Shelly the mother and these two children this was Sean this was Taylor how can anybody want to hurt children like that I don't
know but they look like they can hurt somebody do they look like you would have to defend yourself against them w why he wanted to do that I don't know I would gladly give my wife bring those people back I don't know what to say to the victim's families I really don't other that I'm [Music] sorry clay never admitted to killing [Music] them but I I've try to go see him at least once of M or more how's Mom she's all [Music] right one day we were talking and he said uh Walt do do you think I deser
ve to die and I asked him I said did you kill him did you kill all those people and he looked down and he never would say [Music] anything and I said clay I said my belief is whoever killed them whoever shot them I believe that person needs to [Music] die love [Music] C loved him as much as I've ever loved anybody in my life but um he deserved to die [Music] this is me clay um this the last time I saw clay that's the day for is [Music] executed I got a smile on my face cuz this the first time in
two years I got to hug him there wasn't as much crying as I thought there might be we spent about 2 three hours with him talked about the good things in life he said um wal he said I love you um I want to thank you for everything you did for me growing up he just said uh just uh hear my One I said [Music] [Music] okay the David's execution was just my pastor and myself on Clay side prison officials gave the formal statement on this day May the 8th 2001 clay King Smith was pronounced dead at 9:0
3 [Music] p.m. the victim's friends and family they were hooping and hollering yay yay yay and and we're glad the bastard's dead now you stuff like that and U my just um he just put his arm around me and prayed for me when he said well you don't let's go now you don't need need to listen to any more of this so we left and drove uh to my mother's home and when I stepped in the door Mama knew it was over it was just a bad night just a hard night [Music] after all this happened with Clay it softene
d me it really did I was a policeman for 20 more years after that when I used to take someone to jail I treated them more human I guess instead of just a a number who violated or committed a criminal act it's made me more compassionate made me AIT more understanding but that badge is just getting heavy for me it's just a weight that I don't want to care anymore and I'm going to leave Law Enforcement knowing that I can honestly say I did the best that I [Music] could it's been almost 20 years and
U I know the bad things that Clay did I was there for some of it but I try not to I don't think of clay in the bad terms I don't think of him as as the murderer I don't think of him as someone who used to beat people up I think of him as my brother you yeah I our regret could have prevented it if I have just you know seen clearer what clay had done and what he was doing before he committed that terrible crime I did what I could what I thought I could do and um it just wasn't [Music] enough e e
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