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First quantum measurement of gravity: What does it mean?

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Sabine Hossenfelder

6 days ago

the great thing about physics is that it makes the simplest things mind-bogglingly complicated take space what is it where space is whatever's between here and there not that complicated but but physicist say space should have Quantum properties space itself might be both here and there and what the heck does this mean well no one knows so much about the theory but we also have experiments in physics and this new experiment which I just read about the other day brought us a step closer to figuri
ng out what space is or did it let's have a look this video comes with a quiz that lets you check how much you remember time is what prevents everything from happening at once as John weeder put it and according to John Barrow space is what prevents everything from happening in Cambridge I'm just back from a trip to Cambridge and for all I can tell the only thing that happens there is rain but that let not make things more complicated than they need to be both Johns were referring to space and t
ime in Einstein's good oldfashioned theories Einstein developed his theories before quantum mechanics ruined everything and this is why they don't contain stuff like the uncertainty principle or dead and alive cats in Einstein's theory space and time are coordinate grits basically they tell you when and where things happen like rain in Cambridge or on Monday Tuesday Wednesday you get the idea Einstein also told us however that space and time react to matter Inside by curving trouble is that this
responsiveness of SpaceTime doesn't sit well with quantum physics not at all the issue is that according to quantum physics particles can be in two places at the same time and particles have masses that curve SpaceTime so where do they curve SpaceTime if they're in two places quantum mechanics doesn't tell us because it knows nothing about the curvature of SpaceTime and Einstein's theory can't tell us because it knows nothing about quantum physics what we do know though is that the way that spa
ce Works in Einstein's theory can't be right because somehow we need to account for those particles which can be in two places at once to sort this out we need a theory in which space can be in two places at the same time time which makes no sense and that basically is the problem since gravity is just the curvature of space and time a theory that gives them Quantum properties is also a theory of quantum gravity now I've worked on quantum gravity after I finished my PhD 20 years ago back then ev
eryone kept telling me that quantum gravity is basically philosophy because it doesn't have any measurable consequences that's because gravity is an incredibly weak force compared to the other forces think about it if you pin a magnet to your fridge then the magnetic force of that tiny thing is stronger than the gravitational pull of the entire planet and the forces inside Atomic nuclei are even stronger that's why nuclei stick together and good thing that they do and so the story went we can't
test the quantum properties of space that had require enormously High energies a particle Collide at the size of the Milky Way that's a common estimate but I've tried to tell people that makes no sense gravity is different from all those forces because it can add up it doesn't neutralize like all the other forces do that's why we experience it so prominently in daily life to measure Quantum gravitational effects you just have to measure the quantum properties of objects that are heavy enough I n
o longer work in the field that's a long story but I'm super excited to see that there are now several experimental groups trying to test quantum gravity and not with Milky Way size cidus but in the laboratory this then brings me to the new experiment because they found a new way to measure very small gravitational forces you see the issue is that if you take Elementary particles like those in the standard model electrons quarks muons and all our best friends their gravitational pull is so tiny
we can't measure it so you can't test quantum gravity with them if you take something heavy like a planet then you can measure the gravitational field all right but you can't measure its Quantum properties that's because normally Quantum properties go away the larger the object unless you treat them very very carefully and that's what they did in this experiment they put a tiny magnet about the weight of a milligram into a superconducting container which is called to near absolute zero that supe
rconducting container generates a magnetic field and that keeps the magnet trapped it levitates on the container and because it's so carefully isolated it can do Quantum things like being in two places at once have a look at their experiment it looks a little like the quantum computers at Google and IBM doesn't it these different levels you see here are all noise buffers with these tubes belonging to the different stages of cooling then they take a fairly heavy weight of about 2.4 kg put it on a
wheel rotate the wheel and move it from one side to the other of this container with the levitating magnet the thing is now that the gravitational pull from the moving weight should affect the levitating magnet this will make the tiny magnet swing relative to the container with the frequency that depends on the position of the wheel and that they can measure because it creates a current for which they have a super sensitive detector in the container the the reason they put this weight on a whee
l is that this way they know the effect must come with a particular frequency and that makes it easier to identify it stands out against the noise basically and what you can see here is that the motion of the magnet indeed responds to the wheel being moved the force that they measured was a tiny 30 Aton neon that's not the smallest Force ever measured and that also brings me to the question what do you want to do with it remember that what we want to know is what the quantum properties of space
and time are for this you need to measure the gravitational field of an object in a superposition of two places but this is not what this experiment measures it measures the gravitational field of the heavy weight with a Quantum sensor that's the levitating magnet this isn't what you want to measure to test quantum gravity yes it's something with Quantum and something with gravity but that doesn't mean it's quantum gravity however one thing that you can do instead of directly measuring the gravi
tational pull of a Quantum object is to measure the effect of the gravitational pull of two Quantum objects on each other in a setup like this that basically becomes a question of how the thing responds to vibrations but I'm not sure how you'd extract Quantum gravitational effects from that so I still think that the best approach is that pursued by the group of Marcus aspor in Vienna which tries to directly measure the gravitational pull of small Quantum objects by bringing microscopic sensors a
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@SabineHossenfelder

This video comes with a quiz: https://quizwithit.com/start_thequiz/1708902179498x963498281172992000

@howtoappearincompletely9739

I would listen intently to the "long story" of why you left the field of quantum gravity, Dr Hossenfelder.

@andrewmiller1258

"Time exists so that everything doesn't happen at once. Space exists so that it doesn't all happen to you" - Susan Sontag

@johnneale3105

In your wonderful deadpan way you said, "In Physics we have experiments.", which reminded me of a Physics lecturer I once had, who introduced his topic by saying, "If it moves, its Biology, if it changes colour, it's Chemistry and if it don't work it's Physics!"

@alicekibbe

You're are first person to explain the quantum gravity issue in a way l could understand.

@johnpowell9174

It's raining today (Thursday), in Cambridge.

@doctorjerbear3177

"Physics makes the simpliest things mind-bogglingly complicated." Reminds me of when I took quantum mechanics. The professor spent 30 minutes solving the Schrodinger eq for the potential V(x) = const*x, which involved Bessel functions and such. After that, as a joke I raised my hand and asked, "So with V(x) = const*x, that means we would use this result to understand dropping a ball." Professor just chuckled and said, "Something like that..."

@FrancisFjordCupola

If all that happens in Cambridge is rain than it follows that Cambridge must be entangled with Seattle.

@k9anticscolorado

What a beautiful way to put it every time you go to your refrigerator and look at that magnet you realize that there's so much strength and force in that and it does change all around all the time❀❀❀❀❀

@mrlugh

you're already the best science commentator/educator. Adding the quiz on the end just adds a great way to interact with your videos.

@colinhiggs70

I'm excited to hear that there are experiments going on to try and test quantum gravity. I hadn't known that. I think I'll see if I can find out more. Thank you for covering this.

@carlbrenninkmeijer8925

Thank you, so smart an experiment it is awesome how scientists progress. I find it great. The experiment of the Cavendish Balance is so awesome, "almost anyone" on Earth can him or herself determine the gravitational constant in the garage. And now we have these extremely refined experiments!

@starventure

7:11 Sir Henry Cavendish - "Hmmm, this looks vaguely familiar to me for some reason..."

@philiphumphrey1548

Cambridge is statistically one of the driest places in Britain. Try Wales or the Lake district.

@frankmccann29

We may have units soon ❀😊. It may be the right and left hand rule with dimensions thrown in? Brilliant experiments. Congratulations. Thanks, Dr. Sabine.

@chadbailey3623

I’ve been waiting for you to discuss this study!!!

@sabinrawr

I hope that these experiments end up confirming my personal hypothesis: that the gravitational warping of the space around a quantum object is based on the probability of the particle being in that place. For example, if a particle has a 14% chance to be in a certain position, them it would warp space just 14% as much as it would if the object were 100% there. When you add up all of these (possibly infinitely many) micro-gravitational fields, the sum is what we end up observing with our instruments.

@markosluga5797

3:03 What I found interesting is the collection of magnets from at least the UK, France, Spain, Croatia, Canada, Australia, Cuba and maybe Portugal and perhaps even Egipt...

@vonwux

I'm pretty sure it snowed in Cambridge once, too. It's nice to have a bit of variety

@FredPlanatia

This was a great episode. Lots of wonderful Sabineque dry humor to spice up the physics. Also, your particular interest in this topic really came across, the ideas were made understandable, and, the graphics very nicely fit the discussion. Compliments all around! Oh, and now a science question: at 6:20 you show their data as some amplitude of vibrations at different frequencies (or so i understand), but I fail to see how they distinguish the signal from the noise, at least if the signal is supposed to be at the position of vertical yellow dotted line. There are plenty of other spikes of similar amplitude at other positions in the plot. And an experiment idea: couldn't the search for quantum gravity be applied to those crystals representing the largest 'schrΓΆdinger cat' ever measured in a quantum superposition?