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How profound loss inspired Terry Rice to double down on his business

Terry Rice shares his deeply personal journey from the highs of working at Adobe and Facebook to the life-altering experience of losing his son. He opens up about the struggles he faced, and how the loss of his son reshaped his perspective on success and purpose. Learn more about Terry's process to develop your business resilience and amplify your revenue - listen to his new podcast, Reclaim + Advance - http://terryrice.co/reclaim 00:00 - Terry Rice is a creator 01:10 - Hitting rock bottom 02:07 - The journey to consulting and teaching 03:10 - Discovering passion and purpose through teaching 04:02 - A heartbreaking life altering loss 06:08 - Embracing resilience and moving forward 07:17 - Finding solace in fitness and community 08:14 - Transitioning to a creator business 10:02 - Meeting with Entrepreneur Magazine editor-in-chief 11:29 - Expanding his impact with his book & video content 13:21 - The power of vulnerability & sharing his story 14:53 - Rethinking legacy and impact Start your free 14-day trial (no card required) at: https://convertkit.com/features?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=terry_rice&utm_content=full_film .............................................................................................................. ABOUT CONVERTKIT Sustainable growth tools for creators. ConvertKit helps 600k+ creators like you work smarter – not harder – with email, automation, and monetization tools that work together to drive continuous growth. Start your free 14-day trial today 👇 https://convertkit.com?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_content=description Check out more ConvertKit content at: ▪️ Educational blog: https://convertkit.com/blog?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_content=ce_description ▪️ Free workshops: https://convertkit.com/training?utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=social&utm_content=ce_description ▪️ Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/convertkit ▪️ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/convertkit ▪️ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/convertkit #terryrice #convertkit #iamacreator #creatoreconomy #resilience #purposedrivenlife #personalgrowth #healingjourney #mindsetshift

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- People often ask me, "Hey, Terry, why'd you leave the corporate world? You know, you worked at Adobe, you worked at Facebook, all these great companies." The truth is, when I worked in corporate, I was cocky, I was reckless. And the first time I really felt like lit up and where I was meant to be is when I was teaching. It felt like an art. Normally, when I tell the story of my journey, I'm on stage delivering my keynote about how to develop a money mindset. But I just felt an opportunity to j
ust be more real. The reason why I made this change is 'cause my son died. My name's Terry Rice. I'm a biz dev consultant, keynote speaker, podcast host, and I am a creator. Throughout my life, there've been things that I've done that seem great, seem extraordinary, like I was a college athlete, you know, I worked at Adobe, worked at Facebook. Didn't really like any of that stuff. A lot of it was ego-driven. I would love it when I was at parties and people asked me what I do. So I could say, "Oh
, I work at Facebook," right? But I wasn't as responsible with myself and my body, my health, and I was drinking every night. And as you can imagine, it took a toll. It took a toll on my health, my performance. So often, I would leave a job before I got fired or just get fired. The same time, I found out that my wife was pregnant with our first child. So I'm like, "Great, I'm still spinning outta control "and I have a kid on the way," which is not a good combination to have. That was just the wa
ke-up call when I started working out, I stopped drinking, and just worked on more personal development before the professional development. So after getting laid off, I could have tried to get another job, right? But people were gonna wonder like, "Why'd you leave Facebook after a year and a half?" You know, "What's going on, what's your deal?" I didn't want to have those conversations, and I don't think I was ready to go back to corporate, now realizing I was never ready to even be in corporat
e. So I figured, "You know what?" "I'm gonna do consulting." So it took about 18 months to feel like things were actually working and I would have predictable income and wasn't worried so much all the time. And one reason why that worked so well is because I was teaching marketing and business classes at a school called General Assembly. The first time I really felt lit up and purpose-driven and where I was meant to be is when I was teaching. And it was my first time teaching, which they didn't
know, fortunately, but there's like 30 people in the room looking at me, all walks of life, all ages, but they were looking at me because they wanted me to share information that would help them get a better job or do better in their current job. And that responsibility felt great, and it felt like an art. Because when I deliver content, I'm not just like reading my slides or anything like that. I'm performing, that's what lights me up. And it was wonderful because I was literally getting paid t
o prospect. People come there, learn from me, and then hire me. Things were going pretty well. It's like, "Wow, I'm making over six figures." Like, you know, second year of my business, things are going great and I finally felt comfortable. Like I was getting in better shape, things were more stable, like things were gonna work out okay. When my daughter was about nine months old, we found out that we were pregnant with my son, T.J. And I'm like, "Okay, great, this is the thing, right?" "We're g
onna have a family." And I still remember the picture of her with like this bib on that says "Big Sister." And she's reading a book that says, "Big sisters are the best." Right, it's like a cute picture. So the whole time that he's on the way, like I'm just trying to really build my business. Because I wanna take time off, for once. With my daughter, I didn't take any time off. With him, I'm like, "You know, I'm gonna take a month off. "I'm gonna really just do the paternity leave thing." Things
were going well with the business. I was like, "Wow, this is actually working." And I was getting better as a dad too. And I remember it was May 29th of 2017, my wife and I are walking with our daughter, we're going to the park and stuff. And she starts having contractions. And we're like, "Okay, cool, it's game time." 'Cause at this point, he's 37 and a half weeks. And I'm like, "All right, he's gonna come early." Right, you know, this is how it goes. So I make all the arrangements, get the ba
bysitter there to watch my daughter, you know, rush off to the hospital. They hook her up to all the machines. And I'll never forget the look on the doctor's face, like when he looked up, because he couldn't hear anything. And he just said, "Look, this is a very serious situation." And couldn't detect a heartbeat, right? So like, "Okay, we're gonna try another machine real quick just to make sure it's not the machine." And in my head I'm like, "Oh, this is gonna work." It still didn't work, righ
t? So still no heartbeat. And in that moment, I just said to myself, "You're about to have the worst night of your life." And I did. My wife delivers my son, and I'm holding him, and I'm like holding my breath as tight as I can. I'm like, "Let me see if I can just feel him breathing a little bit." Right, maybe something's wrong, maybe the machines are still broken. So I'm like holding him, holding, holding, holding him, like almost about to pass out 'cause I don't wanna breathe because I wanna s
ee, I wanna feel if he does. And, you know, he didn't. But one thing I'm proud of is I never gave up hope that maybe, maybe, maybe, this will still work out. And it didn't. I think that one of the toughest parts for anyone who goes through, any parent, is the car ride back when you have to look in the back seat and you see the empty baby seat there, and it's like a reminder of what you thought the journey back would be. This is my son's grave, and it's rare for anyone to see their own name on a
tombstone, right? And I remember at his funeral, I'm carrying his casket and handing him over to the pall bearer so they could put him in the ground. And the guy kinda like snatched the casket from me. And I was hurt, you know, because I'm like, "I lost my son, and this is the last time I'm ever gonna hold him, and you're just kind of snatching it from me." But what I later realized is like, how long would I have held it? You know, forever wouldn't have been long enough. Obviously losing him, I
was upset because of all the things I wanted him to be. And I would say it's a reminder, "Well, hey, all that stuff that you wanted him to be, you do it, right? You wanted him to have a big impact on the world, you do it. You wanted him to help people, you do it." I think resilience starts with acceptance. And you have to realize this thing happened. And I think people exhaust themselves and waste time trying to go around it, trying to go over it. You gotta go through it. So as soon as you reali
ze this happened and I can't do anything about it, you realize I have full control over everything that happens next, including my perception and my reaction and my endurance. What it looked like for me was initially solitude, where I just didn't want anyone to say anything about anything because everyone tries their best, right? But you can't tell people, "Behave exactly this way, or I'm gonna get upset," right? So I'm like, "No one owes me anything, in this case except respect and distance." S
o that's how I got through it. And then, I just really leaned heavily into fitness. I went to the gym and the cool thing was, is I was able to be around people again who didn't know my backstory. I just wanted to be around people, but not answer all the questions and get the weird looks. So I started doing CrossFit and it was great. Like just, you know, being able to be my old self again, like the charismatics, sarcastic guy who's just trying to get a workout in. And to this day, I mean, that's
still my community, but the majority of people don't know this story whatsoever. They don't know why I showed up, they just know I did, and it's been about six years. On the way back from my first class, I'm like, "Okay, I'm doing something different, I wanna keep on doing something different, so I'm gonna walk back on a different side of the street than I normally do." I kid you not, as I'm walking back, I look down, I see my name written in concrete, and I was like, "Holy cow, if that's not a
sign that you're on the right path, you know, what is?" And it encouraged me to keep on taking opportunities like that going forward. So when I first started my business, it was all time for money. I was doing pure consulting and that worked well enough, but after a while, you run outta time, right? And you just still want more money. I realized I don't wanna necessarily just do client work because that's tedious, right? Like you always have someone who's gonna be unhappy and like, you know, you
're getting interrupted all times of the night. I wanted to be a creator because the benefit of creating is you create content and people can consume it asynchronously and still get value from it. And also, when you're going through some stuff, you don't have to be out there live all the time. You can just post some content, drop a newsletter, whatever it is, you're still sharing your gifts while you're recharging, right? So, again, you don't have to do more to be more. So from there, I started
creating online courses, but I was so cocky when I made my first online course, it was a Facebook course, and I thought to myself, "Look, I worked at Facebook, I'm teaching Facebook courses all the time at General Assembly and all these other places, it's gonna blow up." It blew up in my face because I did not have an email list to sell to. I was just talking about it on social media, "Buy my course, buy my course," so on, so forth. And it flopped. I fumbled that opportunity solely because I did
not have an email list. I was on MailChimp for a while 'cause I feel like that was a thing to do, right? But what I like to do whenever I have to make a decision is I look for people who I respect and see what decisions they've made. So I looked at a few of my favorite creators and I looked to see what kind of email marketing platform they're using. So Pat Flynn, I looked, ConvertKit. Dory Clark, ConvertKit. A few other people, ConvertKit. I'm like, "Those are the people that I aspire to be lik
e so I'm just gonna follow their lead and use that program." And that's why I switched over to ConvertKit and have been super happy with it. I was taking my daughter to a gym class here in Brooklyn, and I walk in and I see Jason Feifer, who's the Editor-in-Chief of Entrepreneur Magazine. And I'm like, "Holy cow, that's Jason Feifer, I gotta talk to the guy, right?" But I couldn't find a good way to break up the conversation he was having with his wife. So finally I'm like, "Look, I gotta say som
ething" because often that window of opportunity is so small and closes so quickly, if you don't get on it, it's gone. So I just said to him, "Hey, man, I like your podcast." And he's like, "You know who I am?" I'm like, "Yeah, you're the guy." You know, 'cause I'd been following him on social media for years. We exchanged information. A week later, we had coffee together and we're just talking about business and entrepreneurship and all this stuff. And he identified a need that they had an entr
epreneur for someone to help with marketing because their lead marketing person was gone for a while. A week later, I'm talking to the whole senior team there and they're like, "Oh, can you help us do this? Can you help us do that, can you help us do this?" I'm like, "Yes." They're like, "Oh, and we're gonna let you be a published author." So writing for Entrepreneur has changed my life. But one thing I was very clear about with myself is I'm not gonna let the Entrepreneur logo become my identit
y. Because when I worked at Facebook, when I worked at Adobe, that was my identity, right? And I said, "That's never gonna happen again. It doesn't matter who I'm working with or who I'm working for, that will not define me." That said, it was pretty freaking cool because I can write about whatever I want, get it published by this major organization and reach thousands of people. I eventually was offered the opportunity to write a book about starting a consulting business, which came out in 2020
. But then, another thing I started doing was I wanted to make more video content so I started doing that for some of my articles and eventually Entrepreneur's like, "Do you just wanna like have like a video or a podcast thing going on?" And I'm like, "Yes, I do. Like I've been trying to find a way, you know, to bring this up." So that's been great because it gives me access to a lot of really smart people. Like I was talking to, like Shaquille O'Neal, Rosario Dawson, Daymond John. I was hired t
o speak at Craft + Commerce, this event put on by ConvertKit. And the day before, there was this private mastermind. It wasn't one of those corny masterminds, "Look, here's how you make more money, bro." We got really deep into just the emotion behind being a creator, some of the frustrations, and supported each other through that process. There was this one gentleman there who never felt like sufficient because he grew up poor, and even though he is doing well now, always had this child inside
of him that felt less than, and other people struggling saying, "Hey, you know, people think I'm making all this money and I'm not." And like literally tears coming from people's eyes. And that made me feel comfortable to be more open. And I'm on stage delivering my keynote about how to develop a money mindset. And normally when I tell the story of my journey from beginning to where I'm at now, I just say, "Hey, I wanted to make a change in my business and that's why I went into business consult
ing." But based on what happened the day before, I just felt an opportunity to just be more real and say, "The reason why I made this change is 'cause my son died." And my perception of what I wanted for my life going forward changed drastically. And that's when the connection with the audience really, really picked up. So that moment was extremely transformational. And I was like, "I can't go back to anything I've done before after this moment. I can't go back to the guy who's just saying the n
uts and bolts of business. There's so much more." Sometimes the only way is through that pain and sharing it, right? So it's like this paradox where you think, "Oh, I'll talk about it later." No, talk about it now. Whatever way you feel comfortable, talk about it now, and you'll be amazed at how people rally to support you. Because after I got off that stage, so many people came running over to me saying, "Oh, my God, that was amazing." So and so forth. But one woman really stood out to me and s
he said, "Look, this was great because unfortunately, my friend is burying her son today. His name is also T.J. And you telling that story on stage, I relayed that to her and it gave her some comfort." But if I didn't share that pain, I would not have been able to help her, right? So we all have these stories inside us that we're afraid to share for one reason or another. Yes, it is gonna feel uncomfortable, but when you share, it cuts the pain in half and doubles the joy. And you'll be amazed a
t the opportunities that come up too, because people give you opportunities because they feel connected to you and they can't feel connected if you're hiding behind some manufactured personal brand. And that's why I feel strongly that character branding is more important than personal branding, especially in the age of AI, when you can manufacture so many things, but you can't fake character, right? You can't fake your stories and the way that you treat other people. And if you don't share your
full story and your experience, you won't get those opportunities. And if you're afraid to express them publicly, you're gonna have challenges too. So the sooner you can start sharing your experiences, your ups and downs, whatever it is, what you've learned, the faster that you'll grow. I mean, that's the hallmark of being a creator, is creating good opportunities and good experiences for people. So after losing my son, which is obviously a challenging time, I was literally looking at his tombst
one, right? And he has the same name as me, you know, Terrence Jr. It's impossible to look at your own tombstone and not think, "How do I wanna be remembered? What legacy do I wanna leave behind?" And the impact I want to have is helping other people live in their vision, and that's the the gift that this whole experience gave me is the ability to help other people. Your time is limited, right? We got one life. You want a situation like this to change you, but not make you bitter towards other p
eople or just feel like a victim. And I'm glad to share this story because by using my gifts and my pain to direct that towards helping other people and empowering them to help others, there's a multiplier effect where the worst moment of my life helped people I'll never meet have a better life, and that's the legacy that my son can leave behind.

Comments

@vinceedmundsart2999

Thank you for sharing this story of the tragic events in your life. We unfortunately have similar experiences in that I also lost my son when he was 34, to a sudden and unexpected heart attack. To say that this experience is devastating is the understatement of my life, it has changed me beyond comprehension. Also, I am a creator and a full time artist, and I have changed my artistic persona, and taken the name of my sons company so that we are working together, and my artwork will continue his legacy. My artistic name is Sterling Lee Auto Art, after his company name of Sterling Lee Recruitment. When I had to be made a director of his company so that I was able to close it down, this was the worst part of the experience for me as it felt as though I was removing him from the face of the planet, and I just had to find a way of continuing his legacy, so this is what I did. Hearing you share your experience is refreshing for me, as I have shied away from talking of my experience, as I did not wish to be seen as trying to profit from my experience. It is enlightening to see and hear you discuss your challenges, and I thank you for that.

@TerryRice

Thanks so much for allowing me to share my story! Hope it provides inspiration and motivation for those who need it most. I'm planning to write a book focused on the transformative power of resilience so I would love to hear your thoughts!

@KrystalProffitt

Thanks for sharing, Terry. Hearing your story at Craft & Commerce last year was incredibly moving. It was so much more powerful because you shared your true self on stage. You're changing lives by sharing your story! 🤗

@jameswhitelawanimation

Thank you for this, Terry. It really is amazing to see such courage. It's very encouraging. Thank you.

@susaneckert

When I think of resilience, you certainly come to mind Terry. I'm inspired by your journey and feel fortunate to have had you coach me as I began to pivot more seriously. Your story shows that we can decide at any time to step up, to make things happen, to follow our soul's purpose. Seeing Terry on the concrete walkway because you decided to take a different path - well, if that wasn't your intuition sending a sign...and that you heeded it! So inspiring! I look forward to watching you soar even higher. Because it's happening.

@HenryThong

What a great experience it was to work with Terry! I learned so much ⭐

@stillmyson9224

Very emotional seeing your journey Terry… It reminds me of the monumental shift our son Owen’s death created in our lives. I’m sure Tj was giving you a clear sign bc you have found your path & are doing so much to help others. Hugs to Tj’s dad & crew