In this video i show you how to punch holes and program music for the 20-note music box set and the 30-note music box set.
It is sometime a daunting process and it can drive you crazy in no time. I have been programming these music boxes for a long time now and wanted to share the methods i have developed to make the process less daunting and drive you less crazy. These music boxes are available everywhere and if you want to try them out and make your own songs this tutorial might help along the way!
It took a full day to cut these holes, longer time because I filmed it but without filming it would still take about 4-8 hours.
If you have advice or ideas on my two questions that I am asking in the video (laser cutting software & 20-note music box continuous paper roll) the best place to send me ideas is actually by posting a picture on the Marble Machine Development photo sharing page:
http://bit.ly/2ljPoOQ
The fun thing with the photo sharing page is that everyone can see any conversations on these topics.
We will redesign our website in the upcoming months and I would like to start a forum on the new website to discuss things like this publicly, until then the photo sharing page is the closest thing to a forum we have right now.
I am not sure which Wintergatan Wednesday the final version of the Music Box song will be played, i said "in the next video" but that will probably not happen as we are working with MMX now.
Good luck with the Music Boxes! Martin
Video Made by Martin Molin & Hannes Trainerds Knutsson
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Welcome to this music box programming tutorial. This is a 30-note music box set,
and this is a 20-note music box set. And when you program
[paper rustling noises] longer songs on these music boxes, like this one, It will drive you crazy in no time.
[chuckles] It is quite daunting sometimes. Eh... and I've been doing this for a
lot of years now and developed some... tricks that makes it less daunting
and drives you less crazy. So in this video, I want to share, my best tricks, on how to program t
hese
music boxes with you! Normally they come in C major, the 20-note music boxes, but I have retuned my music boxes to different
keys by adding some soldering on some notes. To join these two pieces, you will need:
tape, a ruler and a knife. [rip] So we start with securing
one piece to the table. And on this second piece, we're going to
cut a little curve, so we see all the lines, [whoosh] like that! So now we can pair
this grid with this grid. That looks good! Put an extra tape straight
over t
he seam like this! [rip] And here's the magic. So now you take the ruler and you
make a diagonal cut, [squeaking sound] through both pieces at the same time. [cutting sounds] [tearing and cutting sounds] Clean the surfaces of the joint. Good quality thin masking tape. [cutting sounds] [tape peeling sounds] And there's your perfect joint! When I started making these
music box programming, I made the joint...
straight over the paper, and look at them now. When you do it right,
the joint should dis
appear. [paper flipping sounds] The next step is to
record your song in MIDI. That will make everything so
much easier at the later stage. [Metronome plays at around 110 bpm in 3/4] [♪ Wintergatan: All Was Well ♪] [♫] [♪ Wintergatan: All Was Well ♪] ends [keystroke] So before starting programming,
I always... give myself some help by... putting in these reference marks. So this song is in
waltz tempo, 3/4 one, two, three, one, two, three and the dotted line will be the division. [beatboxes notes
] And by adding these reference marks it will be much easier later, when we start to punch the actual holes, to not get lost. But we can make it even more clear
by putting in the chords from the song. [keystroke] So D minor starts [♪ Wintergatan: All Was Well ♪] F
[♫] do, do-do
[keystroke] [♫] two, three, two
[♫] D minor
[♫] Dun
[♫] Remember this part that we cut off in the beginning? This is gold. So cut off a little piece like this and
drag it with you when you draw your notes, and then you ha
ve easy reference
on the vertical lines. I always use the MIDI grid and
I have it right in front of me here. So I can see in the MIDI grid what notes are coming, I can play it back
[keystroke] [♪ Wintergatan: All Was Well ♪] and it helps a lot from,
to remember your arrangement. So, first bar do-do-do-do-do-do D minor Like that! [sped-up music and dialog] And at this point it can actually be smart to try to cut these holes, to try the tempo on the music box
to see if you've been thinking correct
ly with the resolution of the timing,
and that you're heading in the right direction, instead of making the whole song and
then realize that you can't crank fast enough or it's way too...
too fast or something. [wood sliding sound] [winding sound] [music box notes] So now there's no contact microphone recording the sound from the music box,
so we will have a lot of sound from the gears [motor whirring] [♪ Wintergatan: All Was Well ♪]
[static noise] So, the test told me that we are on
our right w
ay and we can move on. And then this next bar I already
see a problem with the MIDI. [♪ Wintergatan: All Was Well ♪] This note, doesn't exist on the music box.
It's too low. [♫] So then you have to alter it.
You can try to put it one octave higher. [♫] As you can see I drew some mistakes
but then I just cross out that circles and then when I start to punch the holes
I know that I shouldn't punch those. It's good to keep the song in mind. Like here I know there's
two notes at the same time. I wan
t the base note to be little earlier, so I put the hole a little bit in this direction, like a little bit before.
[clip] And this melody I put a little bit that direction [clip] to have that 'g-dang'
nice music box feeling. [clip] [clip]
[clip] [sped-up clipping] [clipping sounds] So, that was half the holes. So here, where we are now I want the song to repeat itself. I wanna play what we have programmed so far, twice. And the good news is that there's a
way of copying what we just have done. If
we take this note,
where the song should repeat, and we align it with the first note that we already cut. We can actually just use the holes that we cut and copy them onto the new paper. Like this. But before I draw all these, I'm gonna
check for mistakes on the first holes. [musixbox notes]
[motor whirring sounds] And note now that we don't have the
real microphones in the music box, now so it's going to be a lot of mechanical noise. [motor whirring] [♪ Wintergatan: All Was Well ♪]
[static noi
se] Slower... [♫] What happened there?! The highest note didn't play. I didn't hear any mistakes. So this time I was lucky enough because
there was no mistakes in this programming so far. But I want to show you a trick
on how to fix your mistakes. It's actually no problem, because
you will make a lot of mistakes. So I'm gonna show you just for an example. I put a hole here. [clip] This one. And I just realized that
it should be on the line next to it. So what I do is that I turn it around, [rip]
I tape that hole. I make sure the tape has very nice edges and then I re-punch the hole right next to it. So now the right note will be played. and the wrong note will be silent. So, that's some comfort, in a way If you put a note a little bit too early, I think, here I put this note here. You can just keep on making
a hole until you want the note because the music box wont play until the hole ends. Now I have repeated the whole song twice, but I want to end the song with repeating the first li
ttle part, also. So, take the beginning... [paper rustling noises] and you're just gonna draw that little part in as well. [silence] [clip] [clipping sounds] Last hole! Riiiiight there. [clip] Okay.
[exhales heavily] When you cut for a long time, the paper edge is
tearing up your skin like this. I just put a piece of masking tape on my hand.
It works very good, actually. So, this song is done. I think if you were good with writing software,
you could write a software that takes MIDI and makes a
laser cutting template and you can just put these papers into the laser cutter and
have the laser cutter to cut perfect holes with perfect timing Annnnd... if someone is interested
in doing something like that with me, please let me know because it
would be quite cool, actually. [chuckles] I know for the 30 note music box, I have seen rolls, long rolls with paper so you don't have to join them. If someone has seen long rolls for the 20 note music box paper,
so you don't have to join them, I woul
d be very interested for that link as well. This song is done. And, on the next video, I'm gonna put the song onto the music box and record it properly
so you can hear the result. I hope you learned something today
and maybe you wanna try this yourself. I would love to see your version of...
a music box like this. It doesn't have to be motorized,
it can be hand cranked. That's sometimes even cooler. And... You can subscribe to Wintergatan here, And... Thanks so much for watching. See you on the
next video. [snip][snip] [clipping spunds] [music box notes] [♪ Wintergatan: Wintergatan Wednesdays Music Box ♪] // Subtitled by Wintergatan Writers. Join our team on discord. // [silence]
Comments
As an engineering student I would love to make a device that automatically punches holes. I think one could make “a music maker box” a music box that punches holes instead of playing them, an arduino could control the hole punching, and an encoder could Tracy the rotation of a drive wheel. The goal being you export a MIDI to the device and it automatically prints out a perfect copy.
Step one: LEARN THE PIANO
OH SHHHHH I JUST REALISED UR THAT GOD WHO MADE THE MARBLE MUSIC MACHINE
When you're so frustrated from punching holes in the paper you punch a hole in the wall
As a girl who dreamed to be a composer, producer and a singer I found your videos really inspires me to work hard for my dreams and to be patient
This guy has more musical and engineering talent in his discarded finger nail clipping from third grade than I have in my entire body. Astounding.
Step one: Try to do it Step two: give up Step three: Learn bad piano Step four: GIVE UP
I love how your music compositions sound so ethereal and light like the heavens, cosmos. They have a levity and joy to them. Listening to your compositions makes me feel happy.
"How to make confetti in just 8 hours!"
"I have retuned my music boxes by adding some soldering". Speechless once again on a Wednesday evening.
kids getting off the polar express Kid A:What did yours say? Kid B:Believe Kid A:Cool mine said wisdom Kid C: mine is a butch of dots that make weird noises when put through this specific machine
you are nothing less than a genius of our current generation. Thank you for your contribution towards music and innovation.
woooooow!!!! Martin you just taught 2 months worth of music programming class within 15 minutes SUCH AN EFFECTIVE TEACHER YOU ARE. You are like if God taught humans how to eat awesome!!!!!
Programming music boxes myself I would add a very useful warning that you cannot place two successive notes on the same line too close to each other or the 2nd one will not play. However it may depend on the specific mechanics of the music box you are using.
Oh dang... took me 2 minutes before I realized who was doing this music box tutorial... None other than the worlds premier artisan music box master wintergatan with those crazy music machines. What a legend.
2:52 Something ethereal, surreal, ephemeral, dreamlike... Beautiful.
As a trigger-happy drummer, I find your patience inspiring.
"remember this left over part, this is gold" kek walking straight back to my trash bin to get that back lmfao
I never want to do this myself, but I am totally intrigued by your dedication, creativity, and of course the music! So I keep watching your videos. Marbleous!
Not one to usually comment on YouTube videos but this has kept me mesmerised for the whole video. Very impressive and refreshing to see traditional music composing isn’t being lost.