In This Living Book, God Is the Divine Author

In This Living Book, God Is the Divine Author 23 February 2024 (with subtitles) [Questioner 1] So, it's this feeling to invite you fully, fully in my being, you are my being, but to invite you in all the aspects of my life, because I see some, like in some activity or in some aspect I feel as if I'm by myself and I have to work it out by myself. And I know this is not true. And I feel so much to invite you fully, fully, fully. [Mooji] Yes. [Mooji] Because the reference to yourself ... Sorry,

I think we're blocking ... [points to camera] The reference to yourself is being shaped in personhood, when you speak like that. [Q.1] Yes. [Mooji] So that sense of a personal self needs help, always. Because it's an identity that's created through the mind and through conditioning, through identity. For most people in the world, they are not aware of an option. When they say, 'I', it refers to a personal self. And nobody encourages us to look more deeply into that. So, for most people on t

he planet, in our time, their sense of self is very, very personal. Although, in reality, it is not, but experientially unto themselves they take themselves to be just a person, which is a concept shaped in the mind. They are not that. Actually, we are the pure universal consciousness. When it becomes clear, and for some reason, you, when I meet you, and anyone who comes to satsang, I did not come to anyone in an individual way. 'Oh, you come, I want to be...' No. So we met like this. You c

ame. So already, for me, it's like the universal consciousness is behaving like that, it's bringing the sense of individuality together. And I know it can only be to wake up to its original nature, so that it's no longer covered. You're to get out of this covered reality, into your natural state. So, already that confidence is there. Because nobody else is coming like that. Most people you meet in the world they don't manifest any real sense that they are aware of themselves at a deeper level

. So, of course, I don't push them away. Of course, I meet as you can. What happens very often is, I have total trust that whatever encounter I have, even with animals, it is driven by the universal consciousness. We don't have to over-analyse that. The faith in that is already enough and it makes the space to impart grace everywhere. It happens like that. Satsang is very unusual. Many people in the world are meeting for spiritual reasons. If you take the various religions, Christianity, Isla

m, the religions of India, Buddhism, Sikhism, all these things, there are people on a search, a spiritual journey also. So these are already ... Millions of people are doing. But the majority are searching with a strong sense of individual identity, of personhood. The best we can do in our personal search, because we have a strong sense of identity as a person, and so we are introduced to a God who is the highest person, in our mind. It's like, God, for most people, is regarded as an entity,

like the supreme entity. And the supreme consciousness manifests also as the supreme entity, to suit whatever religious projections we have about it, because it's also an aspect of love. But when we come to search for truth, all human beings, nearly all of us, we follow some categorisation. You have a sense of yourself, of your gender, of your race, of your religion, of your culture, of something; these attributes we hold to be important for our identity. But a sage is beyond all these thin

gs! Superficially, they may dress like a Muslim or a Hindu or a Christian, or an atheist even, they can dress any way. But internally, they have come into wholeness, into universal consciousness. [Q.1] This wholeness, I invite. [Mooji] Yes. [Q.1] I mean, there is no... I'm not separate from it to invite it. But we are, in some aspects, I feel I shrink in, like kind of shrink in a person, and that's where, just to... [Mooji] Yes. And that being so for all of us. Because even a sage is aware

of a sense of a personal self. They may have a family, they may have a job, they're functioning in those jobs. So what is the difference? It's that they don't feel, 'I've to get rid of these things'. They don't have an issue with them. The issue is only to do with identity. If they were living on the basis of personal identity, then they'd be living in a much more complex inner environment. But they have solved the mystery of personhood to realise that, in reality, the person is only a very

superficial idea. They have come into the realisation of the unchanging consciousness. And I feel blessed in realising that everyone is it! There's nobody who is not it! Everybody is the universal consciousness. But it's to be aware of this, not just mentally, not just conceptually, but to transition into that consciousness. So, it's OK for us to say. 'I am personal and I'm impersonal'. Even, as I said before, A realised being may still relate to their family, they know, it's not like it doe

sn't exist. The people who say, 'Oh, nothing, it doesn't exist', like this, in a dismissive way, are still not awake about it. They [sages] say, 'No, it's existing, but it's a kind of temporary and illusory existence'. Even the sense of myself as a person, it's still an illusory existence. What knows that, is my true Self. And what knows that, when I say, My true Self, I'm not having an idea of my true Self elsewhere. It is here. And it is true for everyone. It's not that we are so unique. Ma

ybe the uniqueness is only that you have transcended the mirage, the illusory world of personhood. To wake up out of that is the most amazingly beautiful thing! I wouldn't even call it an experience, because all experiences happen and come and go. So I don't know what to call it. The Truth. And so, what you're asking is totally relatable. And it's totally the questions that all the sages asked. They had to start there, you see, to ask, 'You know, I feel... So I'm aware of the limitations

of a personal self. And something is struggling to come out of this.' And they may ask, depending on who ... And everyone is moving according to their destiny. Destiny is not... No matter what your destiny, you're still under the presence of God. And through whatever seeming destiny you have, is the path through which He will guide you back to your Self, to be uncovered from the conceptual identities, and so on. So your question, or your request, when it comes genuinely from the heart ... Be

cause how can it become genuine? Also, by God's grace, it will make you genuine. And it can be looked at that your soul is in a journey of shedding, getting rid of its illusory, dream self. That is satsang. That is a sadhana. To wake up out of the limitation of personhood; it has to be happening. And the paradox can be that when you come into the living opportunity, then all kinds of negativities are coming up. And so it's important, what a teacher can do is to tell you, 'Don't believe that the

se negativities are judgments against you. They are a form of release.' Because we have forgotten how much toxic energy and information comes in with the person. And our personal ... The story of your life in this form might be 30, 40 or 50 years. But the journey of your soul is far beyond the limitations, the time frame of your body. So, for a long time, we have somehow been living in the role of some identity, for a while. Each life, each lifetime in a life form is given, in some way, we ca

n say loosely, to process and to learn to transcend a bundle of vasanas. Do you understand vasanas? Some latent tendencies, some dormant tendencies, to kind of clean them. As you clean them, some other ones come. They're not necessarily new, but they come. And you see we're always cleaning, always cleaning. And each time the consciousness is becoming more pure, more pure, more pure, more pure. Like you're dropping the weight, becoming more pure. But still, you can transcend many things and sti

ll remain in the paradigm of personhood. You become a blessed person. [Q.1] Like all this transcending or cleansing is also seen. [Q.1] At the same time it's like something is evolving. [M.] We cannot totally trust that seeing, as many things are functioning in our lives that we're not conscious of. Do you understand? We seem to feel like we have an understanding of something, but when real understanding comes you realise, 'Whoa, there were so many hidden things'. So it's the grace of God, w

hen we pray. Now, recently I've been sharing two things. One is that, for most people, we have a sense of ourself as an entity, 'I'm this person, this is my body', and our attachments to our conditioning, our identity, our projections and dreams and all of that constitutes a kind of ... It makes like we are solid in the form of our beliefs and shape and identity, like that. But, largely we are suffering from a lack of awareness of what we truly are. We have some awareness, but it's tarnished b

y conditioning, habit, arrogance and ignorance. So our pictures are not clear, like that. And that's why the grace of God is so important. But it comes with humility. It comes also through trying and failing and realising that by your ego's ability it's not enough. I used to say, many years ago, that this whole human world concept, it really doesn't work, by itself. It only works when it wakes up in connection with the Supreme Consciousness. Otherwise, it's just rolling downhill. When it conne

cts consciously, then it wakes up. Now, I want to say something that might sound a bit unusual. Because human 'being' is not a reality, the reality is only pure consciousness, [we're] unaware of our true nature. So human 'being' cannot overcome human 'being', meaning the limitations of [it]. We may try to overcome by brutality and force, but that's not overcoming; we become more stuck. So, there's nothing anyone can do to surprise God. There's no original thought. So there's no God saying,

'Oh God, I didn't know they would do that'. There's no such thing. This a human identity idea. All of the book of existence, the living book of existence, the one author is the Supreme. But the Supreme can be conceived of as an entity, like the Great God. It manifests like this also, the Great God. But every doctrine has a different idea about God. Even within its own collective doctrine there'll be variation, depending upon the way that your beingness functions. So no one can know God like

that. We may have... Your heart, your devotion, your love, your yearning, makes you more pure and brings you more into the realm of God understanding. I'm saying this, because, I would like that you open up enough to understand that everything in the universe... It's like I gave an example. A writer writes a book, I've said this example before. A writer has written a book. And it's a great book. It's got many different characters in it. They are all different. They all play different roles

. And some are really nasty and horrible and vicious. And some are wonderful and kind and loving and sociable. They are so many, so diverse. And everything in the book, the good guys, the bad guys, the boring guys, the exciting people, the wonderful things they act, everything in the book, although they seem so different in character all came out of the same pen, the same one author is writing them. No character in the book can say, 'Listen guys, we don't like this story. But, shh, don't let

the author know. We're not going to show up in the next chapter. We are going to protest. We want things to be different.' OK? If that's in the book, it's by the author's creativity. It's a way of looking, just to show that nothing ... There's no one living, who is hiding from God. That's His also, He is writing in this book. In the book of creation, on every level of the manifest world, of the physical and the non-physical realm, of any part of the universe, it's penned by God. Meaning, ev

erything is manifestation. If you understand that, then it will save you from really the effects of delusion, because you just kind of know, 'God knows'. If you know that, then you'll realise you can never really be lost. And when you realise you can never really be lost, your salvation is a child at hand. Do you understand? So, it is not enough by itself, because you cannot know things intellectually and they become real enough. They have to be experiential, meaning that, what you think you k

now, is not enough. The highest knowledge, really, is to see that nothing exists in your world independent of your consciousness. You're the witness of everything that's arising. Even if you think it's happening over there to those people, it's still in your consciousness it's appearing. If you realise that whatever manifests through the mind and the senses is phenomenal, meaning that they have no independent or lasting existence. They're only appearances, they're only effects in consciou

sness. And the witness of them is apart from them, and that witnesses is your Self. That's not theoretical. It must become obvious. And when it becomes obvious, it's like these things will not entrap you. For a while, your life on its personal level of manifestation, may still feel, 'Oh, but why did this still happen?' And so on. But at some point, you're going to see, everything that arises in you is witnessed in you. When you realise that the witness is not a person, the person is witnes

sed. What is witnessing you, it cannot be said! You can say it's consciousness, or whatever. But you come to see, 'It must be me!' But not the personal 'me'. So the most important character is this which vibrates in the identity of 'I'. You have to take the 'I' beyond the limitations of a personal identity into the uninvolved witness. And the uninvolved witness, you'll come to see that it's not an entity, it's consciousness. This is gradually happening. I can only try and make that more clear.

And then, on top of that, if you ask in your heart, as you did, 'Please help me to to go beyond the grip of the psychological identity' ... You asked that because consciousness has opened that up inside you and then, in my heart, I feel it inside. So be it! So be it. And it will take time to continue now, percolating, it continues. Little by little, it becomes more clear, something in the mind, and you say that you offer this up. You can see that this becomes more clear. Recently, we've been

asking in satsang that, before, when we sit, before the deep contemplation in the 'Just Be' exercise, I've been saying, Make this prayer that you ask God, 'Please scan me', you're asking this, but by God's grace you're fit enough to realise and to ask this, 'Please scan my being, and please dissolve or delete the message in me that is still alive that is bearing and creating fruits of suffering; sinfulness, confusion, depression, anxiety. Whatever it is that is manifesting those things, I o

ffer these up for them to be transcended or dissolved or to delete them.' That's a conscious prayer! Once you do this, then by God's grace, you will start to come to recognise, you start to see the things that you were not seeing before. And then you can, consciously, offer this thing, 'I offer this thing'. And so, gradually, the fingerprint of that message gets gradually erased out. That can keep going on. Something gets more and more purified as you go, it gets purified, purified. But then w

hen you come to the exercise, the power of the exercise is that it is non-conceptual. Many things you think about yourself, 'Oh, I'm so impatient. I wish I could be more kind. I wish I would give more.' These are all personal requests. Ultimately, they are kind of illusory, also. So are you, in the mode of personhood. But it's very difficult for human culture to accept, 'I am illusory'. 'How can I be? I'm here. I'm here!' So, it's a gradual cleaning, that you can comprehend these things, and se

e, 'Ah, it can be seen'. So if this 'I', if a sense of 'I' is polluted, then still a sense of 'I' is aware of that pollution. And that 'I' must be beyond that. You see, like this, gradually. All this work is happening by grace. You can say the grace of God or the grace of your true Self is coming. It's the same thing. So ... In the exercise, I say, let's start with just letting go of everything. I don't say destroy anything. I just say, Let go, meaning become detached from all things. You'll

be surprised at how simple it can be. You don't have to analyse, 'Oh this thing... ' No, just everything! Everything that manifest is illusory, even the idea you have of yourself. Just don't hold on to anything. It's like somebody says to you, 'You go and sit over there, and just keep quiet. Don't mix with anybody.' And you feel, 'Thank you'. You go. And you let go of all your associations, all that's arising in the mind. Maybe you can't stop it. But as it comes, you just say, OK, I won't log i

nto the energy of it. And you may have to try a few times. But little bit by little bit, you're coming out of it, you're coming out of the state of delusion. So let go of everything. OK. Let go of everything, including the idea, your favourite idea about yourself, or your not very favourite idea about yourself. Everything, just let go, let go, let go, as though there were some psychic hole made in your body, [indicates the top of the head] and everything you've learnt just goes [long exhale]

and left. Everything was drained away. Everything that you have learnt or understood or misunderstood, every idea, every identity was kind of like just just, just [long, slow exhale] left. You will still find something here that cannot be taken out. It is not personal. Totally empty, intentionally also. What is that? Unmixed. That is the consciousness. That's the root of all experiencing. Consciousness, it is consciousness that arises as the sense, 'I Am'. And so the name, the sense, 'I Am'

is the intuitive name of consciousness. When I say, if a being came to you and says, 'I favour you, ask of me anything in the whole world and I can give it to you right now'. And you ask them, 'What will it cost me?' He says, 'All, you can have everything, in exchange for your consciousness'. Then you'll see, that is complete nonsense. Because without consciousness I cannot even be aware of myself. I cannot be aware of my own existence. I say this because consciousness is at the root. If eve

rything is lost or everything is found, it does not make any difference to consciousness. It's pure consciousness. When you say, 'I am', the real significance is consciousness, or the sense of beingness. That's an intuition that doesn't belong, it's not associated with anything. It's beyond the concepts of parents and friends and religion, and last year and next year and heaven and hell, and all of these things, and Muslim and Hindu and Christian, and all of these things. It has none of the

se things. It's beyond. It's the pure, pure, unpolluted presence of God. That is what is there. The rest is what we entertain through culture and the basic root identity, which is the belief, 'I am this body, I am my culture, these are my parents, these are my friends, this is my education, these are my dreams', and all of this. When we are very much strong in this conviction, like that, then we are locked in ignorance. This knowledge that I'm sharing with you is not easily accepted in the wo

rld. Because most beings, although fundamentally they are pure consciousness ... One day you'll come to see that only God exists. There's no such thing as independent, separate persons. Only God exists! So what does it mean? All these forms will disappear? No. The belief in their separateness will disappear, when your eyes are open like this. In the meantime, we have actions, reactions, interactions are happening, but something is outside of them, beyond them. It watches them with detachme

nt. You may think, 'What's the point of watching this richness of life with detachment?' Why? Because it is the root. It generates. All the energy in life comes from Him. Yet, He loses nothing at all. Just like if I ask you, give me a replay of yesterday. You may think, 'Oh my God, where would I start? It's just a mess. Yesterday at 10 am I was thinking like this, but at 11 am it was completely different. I can't remember what it was.' Nothing is stable, except the consciousness, which is the

consciousness without a story. Now, in our world, we are accustomed to having a particular kind of story and adventure, seeking difference to fulfil our projections, and so on like that, so we cannot appreciate pure consciousness. Pure consciousness doesn't mean, 'There's no thought!' No, it means that they may arise but they are ineffective against the purity of consciousness. Meaning that you have transcended the need to be different from this and that, you've transcended. So your beingness i

s returning to its original God nature, like that. And it cannot be fooled. And it's all done. It's not the success story of a person. In fact, you realise that the personal life is contaminated with all kinds of delusions. The realisation of the Self is not like an accumulated knowledge like you're some human encyclopedia of knowledge. Actually, you become totally empty. As the knowledge of the world and human beings is completely useless to the divine. Only love is there, and joy. When I

say there, I really mean here. OK? We use the word 'there'. There's no there. [laughter] You have to drop the 'T'. [laughter] Everything is here. 'There' means mind. [Friend] Can I just die in this love? [Mooji] Yes. The only thing that needs to die in the love is that which doesn't exist. This love and truth are one. Love and beingness are one. But it's not a flowery love. It's not so personal. We exaggerate personal love, we over ... It's fine, it's fine. It's all love, also. On every level i

t's love. But the purity of love is synonymous with pure being. We don't have to try so hard to be anything. It's the mind not understanding its true nature, that is giving so much effort to become something that it can never be. You are already! You have to somehow realise. At some point, it will come. By grace it's coming that you will realise that you can never not be the Self, and the rest is dreaming. What I'm sharing with you is not a pile of information to remember. These days, when w

e speak, I am not imparting knowledge in a conceptual form, but in the form of grace. And so, what we experience is like you become empty. The human mind wants to become full, but often it's full of complexity. But grace comes. We say knowledge comes in the form of grace, and grace takes away the world from you, takes away the complexities. And leaves you in your original nature, where you don't know, 'What have I done to be so happy? ... I don't know what I've achieved. I've achieved nothing

at all!' 'What have you gained?' 'I've gained nothing at all.' 'What did you lose?' 'I lost nothing at all.' 'Where are you coming from?' 'Well, from kind of everywhere. I don't know if I'm coming from ...' You don't have to say that. But, somehow, I don't know ... Don't think that knowledge is something that you're going to have like this big religious encyclopedia or spiritual encyclopedia. Knowledge manifests spontaneously. It's not that you have saved up knowledge. Saved up knowledge is al

ways late. Actually, the sages, they know nothing at all, because they see that to know something is a limitation. They just are! Like you just are. [laughter] They're not interested in becoming. They're not even interested in being. It just is! But it is not appealing to the egoic mind. The egoic mind is a journey that has to happen and it's also in God's book. He writes the book! The souls have to... There are all these individual souls... Individual souls don't exist, actually. It's all in

God's dream book. There's only God. And God is not an entity. He is the totality of all there is and can ever be. And your essence is He. He is not a he. He is not a she. He is not an it. He is beyond human conception. Your purity cannot be defined. And it cannot be defiled also. It's only through illusion that we appear to be this and that, and experience sorrow, anxiety, joy and inconsistency. It's all in the game of life. If you understand why it is playing like that and that everything

is to help you to grow in discernment and simplicity, if you understand this, they will not trouble you deeply. You will not fight against them. Who is going to speak? [Q.2] Can I just ask one thing? [Q.2] I feel like, in every moment, I'm trying. [M.] Every moment you're trying? [Q.2] No. [Mooji] Sorry? [Q.2] I just... [Q.2] Sorry. [Mooji] There's something that feels that you have to make an effort to be true. And in a way, sometimes, it is true. It's part of the game, you have to be... If

you're just lazy... It's also an aspect and a play of the illusory self, also. So, the grace generates the energy to search also. Everything is in the book! Everyone is discovering in accordance with the maturity of their being. If we understand that everyone is in their own cycle of evolution, and that it's not linear... Someone may seem to be very stuck, and so on. And you may think, 'I'm doing so well'. The next minute they surpass you. It's not linear like, 'Oh yeah, he's going at five

miles an hour, we give another two weeks'. No, you cannot do that! At some point, it's as though, the waking up is the waking up out of the dream of illusions. Part of that illusion ... Why did God make it like this? Because the story is meaningful, at a certain layer. And you transcend the meaning of that layer and you find it dissolves. Then maybe another layer. But at some point you'll say, 'I'm not interested in any more layers. I kind of get it.' That doesn't mean that you have. But at

some point, your soul, your heart becomes content. Like the urge, the burn to find out, somehow, it's just dropping away. But don't say, 'It's dropped. That's it now!' No. Don't make any conclusion about anything. Just stay empty and present. It's very nice! [laughter] [Q.3] Can I speak? [M.] Yes please. [Q.3] Oh my Lord, I'm so glad that you're giving the exercise, the prayer. [Q.3] So, it's like, [laughs] you're helping us, too much, like you're giving everything. And we are so blessed tha

t I cannot find the words. I just want to express my gratitude. Because you were speaking exactly what ... You also gave me this grace, because I'm drawn to listen, again and again, for many, many, many days, maybe weeks, you have a very short Sahaja Express video about seeing everything as God, seeing everything as consciousness, and that's the highest attitude! Also, you mentioned the same thing, I was listening, you've also drawn me to the Ribhu Gita because this is the highest, and it's v

ery hard to understand. But somehow, it's not about the understanding, but something is drawing me very, very deeply. You are doing it! Because, I accepted it from Bhagavan Sri Ramana Maharshi and I know I don't exist. Whenever I'm believing something, I just take the role and it's going. Like I see this, going with this habit of believing, 'OK, I'm the son of this one, I'm the father of this one' ... But if I don't have any kind of idea, then it's free. But I have to play the role, as it'

s seen that, the saguna has to go on the way, because this is not 'my way', not my play. It's your play. So we have to act as if we are really the good role player. [Mooji] You are made to act. [Q.3] Yes. [Q.3] And I would like to ask, please bless my... You're blessing me all the time! If I can ask, but please bless my heart to be so open to ... Because you are already opening to this highest kind of understanding, not mental, heart understanding, because I'm really seeing that everything i

s God. But please let me live fully, breathe fully, see fully, be fully, without me at all! So like I'm just ... Let me not exist. [Mooji] Yes, yes, this is the ... The Lord brought you to that level of refinement in order to make that kind of request. So if, by His will, He brought you to that level of refinement, it means that He imparts the grace to you. [Q.3] You honour me. Thank you, this is your grace. [Mooji] And just you accept. [Q.3] Thank you. [Mooji] Just say, 'Thank you, thank

you, thank you'. You don't have to itemise what you thank for. Just live with attitude of gratitude, and just say, 'Thank you, thank you, thank you'. In everything that comes, you are the untouched one. That's not an attitude, 'Oh, I am the untouched'. No. You see, actually in the exercise, the 'Just Be' exercise is really revealing this. You don't have to calculate. You just keep the attention in beingness. Starve the mind of its nutrient that keeps on producing delusions, by holding the

attention in beingness. That might seem to be forceful. Yes, it is, in the beginning, because it takes some force to counteract years of false practices and delusions. So you hold it there, hold it there. And actually, why you're doing it is, you're training the mind to be in the heart. We have not done it, so the mind became like a spoilt child, he does what he wants to do. You say, 'Come, sit down'. He just laughs at you. 'Make me sit down. Make me sit down.' That's how arrogantly it will co

me. You can't say, 'Listen you, sit down!' He just laughs at you. You have no power, as you saying to the mind, 'Sit down', is also personal, and it's also mind! So you don't have the power! When you hold to the sense of being, and then you see, initially, you feel the potency and the arrogance, the restlessness and the habit of the mind, and you see that you, as a person, have no power against him now. He's too wild! Where the child is ruling the parent, now the parent is not the true parent

. The parent, until now, is a kind of false parent, which has been the ego trying to control his own delusion. But when you hold onto the sense of being and the life, the grace of God has been preparing you for that capacity, for that ability to hold the attention here. Even though the reflex is to go back into the noise, we keep doing it. I say persist, persist. And gradually you see. When I break up the contemplation time, do five minutes or seven minutes first, and then ten minutes, and

another ten minutes to break it up, so you feel these spaces, that gradually the intensity of the mind-noise is lifting. And why is it lifting? It's because you're holding in beingness. And at a certain point it will rebel! But its rebelliousness will not serve it. It just gradually comes under the sway of grace and it gets anchored, because the mind wants to, its true desire is to come back to the heart. But it cannot control its own bad behaviour! So it needs a higher authority. And that au

thority comes from the grace of God to impart to the seeker of Truth, again, 'You sit. Do this thing.' And it's not that you're going to sit, 'Yes, but I tried it and this...' Beingness has no story! It has no time frame. Beingness doesn't talk about yesterday and last year. No, no, no. It's so pure! So no concept can really live in him, really. But then, you see, the immature being, the immature soul is afraid of the beingness, initially, because it's an addict! And its addiction is to have i

dentity and go and create all kinds of things. So when it doesn't get that he's going to get really angry. But it's OK. Just hold that. And don't go into the story. And gradually, you see ... Because everyone in the world is searching for the same thing! They just don't know. Everyone who is living in the mode of personhood or ego is a restless soul. That's why we always want the next thing and the next thing, because you're never satisfied! It wants the next experience and the next experien

ce, next. And that's the agitation. It cannot be content. Why? God made it like that. Actually, it's a blessing. Because if you could be content with illusory things and delusion, you would be really lost. So the fact that, at some point, your life is not working, is on the verge of grace, as you realise you don't have time to keep projecting. Somehow it becomes desperate. And this desperation brings you to the cusp, brings you to the door of nirvana. So, everything ... No one is forgotten by

God. Everyone is in there. You can feel like, 'I'm dying!' And, [indicates rising] you're up. You can feel, 'I'm so up!' And [indicates going down]. So this arrogance and humility, these are very powerful forces. But it's all in the dynamics of God. He has written the greatest book, a living book. So it's like that. If you go to watch a movie and everyone in the movie is smiling, you'll walk out before ten minutes. [laughter] Because the human mind needs contrast, wants the adventure, it wan

ts a car chase. It wants a sad moment and then a glad moment, and then excitement and then disappointment. And then a death, and a life, and a birth! It loves the adventure, the diversity of the manifestation. It's addicted to action and concepts. And so we have all our dreams all over the place, and you cannot even sustain a single dream. Tomorrow you dream another dream. It's just going everywhere. So the soul is restless. And what it's really searching for is rest and peace. That's why w

hen anyone finds this peace, they know it. They may even feel, 'All my life I did not know peace'. But when it comes, you know it! And it's the most natural thing for you! But until you are, somehow, graced into being ready to receive it, then we imagine it's going to come through a good job or fame or having a family or getting married, or having a holiday home somewhere, or being rich or whatever, we give all these things, or jumping off a mountain without a parachute, or whatever you want t

o do, then the soul is looking for something. But the thing that it keeps getting and seeing is not This. This is why I show you that the ancient meditators, the sadhus of ancient times, they used to say this thing, 'Neti, neti'. Everything the mind produced, they said, 'No, it's not that, it's not this'. 'What about this?' 'Neti neti. Not that.' They could never say what it is. But they could only say what it's not. Because what it is, is what they are. We have an appetite for the things of

the world, for a while. And that while can be... We don't know how to estimate time. We don't know. [Questioner 4] Everything must combust into spirit and I feel it's really the only true indicator. [Mooji] The only what? [Q.4] The only true inner indicator [Q.4] is that we know when it is not from the spirit. And we know when it is. And I feel this is just how you're gracing us, to combust fully. [Mooji] Yes, because when you're not connected here, every kind of thing fascinates your head.

And they can give no real value to you. It's just information, sensations; momentary, transient, illusory. The facts of human 'being' are fiction, mostly, highly subjective in their interpretation, projections. Highly deceitful and manipulative, also. No one should be shocked by that. [Q.4] I just keep opening myself to that, to fully combust into spirit. [Mooji] Invite it. Approach it. Ask. It's not one micro-millimetre apart from you. Ask, 'My Lord, please rid me of ego. Combine me with you

. Merge me with you. Absorb me in the Truth. I don't even know what it means. It's just a sense I have. I can't follow my mind. I don't know what to believe in. But if there is an ultimate Truth, please absorb me in that.' This is something. This is powerful. It's by the grace of the Supreme that we're even sitting down here. I was along just down the road, in Mario's shop, actually, looking at some old things. [laughter] Isn't it? And I said, Yeah ... [Friend] You were trying an armchair ..

. [Mooji] Oh I was trying ... Ah yes, sitting in an armchair ... I tried it first. Then Krish went and sat in it. She says, 'Guruji, this armchair is very, very nice'. I said, Yeah, I tried it. As I'm looking for an armchair for Risha's place. She asked me, 'We're trying to find chairs'. I said, No, no, I have a lot of them. So we're looking like that. I said, Oh, but she's not far from here. Can you call and find out if we can stop, and I can look at the space she has, see if we can bring a

chair. And maybe, of course, we stop, have a cup of tea and then we come back. Look what happened. Who's idea was this, that it unfolds like this? I don't know anything. I just see as it unfolds. And I say, this is the grace of God, that we are here sitting together and we're not talking about football. We're not talking about, 'Yeah, in the market and this... ' No, we're speaking about This, in This. [indicates heart] [Q.3] It's a seeming. A little bit of misunderstanding. Because you are

talking many times about neti neti. But in this, 'See everything as God', you're saying that whatever is arising in you, thought, feelings, whatever, just see this coming, because it's true, it's coming from God. Is it necessary to dismiss, or just accept it? 'OK, this is God's will, so accept it.' [Mooji] There's a time for both. [Q.3] Ah. [Mooji] It depends on the orientation of your being in any moment. There's a time to look and say, 'Whatever it is, neti neti'. Why neti neti? It means

that it's a phenomenon arising inside and it depends upon a witness independent of it to recognise that this is something appearing. So it cannot be the original thing. It comes, it appears, and if there's interest, it hangs around for a while. You see, but whatever it is that comes, however subtle, however great, it's only a visitor. And so you say, 'But I'm here to see it'. Whatever it is that says 'I', and I say it is the formless witness, it shows up in this. Whatever appears in the sk

y is only a visitor. Whether it's a rainbow or a star, everything comes and goes. But the immensity of the space is untouched. That space is like our being. You're looking from here. But sometimes we're looking with a mixture of an idea we have about ourself, in the phenomenal sense. I say, but that also can be seen. 'Oh, yeah.' 'My world and my problems and aspirations, my pain is seen. And the one who is suffering the pain, is seen also.' By what is it seen? I say, don't just think. Look.

Can the seer be seen? Like this. So if the seer can be seen, it must be another subtle seer. And just in that kind of introspection all this clutter just dissolves. What remains? If something remains, that will also be seen. Can that which can testify and say, 'All this is illusory', can that itself be seen? Where does this introspection lead? Everything just dissolves into... What sees this also? So it doesn't keep multiplying. It contracts, contracts, contracts into nothingness. And even no

thingness is seen. By what is it seen? Don't invent. Be very clean. By what is it seen? It cannot be said by what is it seen. The fact is that whatever it is, that can be seen! The seer cannot be seen. Can the seer itself be an object of perception? If there's an object of perception, what is the subject? If you say, 'Well, there's no independent subject', who is speaking this? So it just cancels out all the shapes that are created in the mind. What is left behind? Frustration? No. Indescribab

le peace and joy. That which sees all these things, what's the evidence of it? Can you photograph it? Can it be shown? No. So don't get into the habit of talking about this with every Tom, Dick, and Harry you meet. Don't talk about it. This, you keep looking, looking, looking, until the very idea you have of yourself as a looker, phenomenally, that also collapses. Then you may ask, then what? I say, I won't tell you. Find out. Find out. That is grace. It is the grace of God that is initiating

that impulse to look. And to guide your looking. [Q.3] And He is looking. [Mooji] Yes. [Mooji] Good, good. Maybe it's enough for now. It's was a long cup of tea. [laughter] [Q.3] Thank you, Guruji. [M.] Thank you. [Friends] Thank you Guruji. [Mooji] Thank you, thank you, thank you. [Friend] You graced all of us, yes. [Mooji] Also, what remains now? What is left? Is there any autobiography of that which is left now? If you go to your mind, it's willing to create something about that. But a

lso, neti neti, it cannot be that. Also, from the mind will come some itch, like it's itching, because it wants the food of phenomenal interaction. But that's also watched. Can you bear, can you bear your own emptiness? The mind is going, 'Aaargh'. The mind is biting its fingernails. 'Aaargh!' But that also, you can watch that. Can you bear this? Because that's also important. Because you may find yourself twitching. Something's twitching. 'I'm trying to suppress the mind.' I say, no, no, no,

let them go. You're the witness of this. So it's going to take some subtlety, some persistence, aided by the grace of God, because without being aided by the grace of God, [Mooji makes a popping sound] goodbye! You have to stay with that. Be respectful of the presence of God. This level of introspection is itself devotion and is generated out of the love of God. And there is a saying, 'He who is in search of himself, finds God. And he who is in search of God, finds himself.' Same, same. But no

t 'himself' personally. Watch out. Not yourself personally. The person is the price that will be paid. Who will pay the price, I can't say. Total joy! [laughter] Total happiness. [Friend] Thankfulness. [Mooji nods] [Friend] Trust. [Mooji] May the essence of what we share be stabilised in you. Because the mind will try to fight against it, but because it's brought by grace, you remember that, and you will not be swept away by it. [Friend] Thank you so much, Guruji. [Mooji] Thank you everybody.

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