Joe: How am I being too difficult pointing out the danger of another Trump term?

call on Friday from somebody who's who uh said I feel like I'm your um budsman because anytime people are angry at Morning Joe they call me and I said well who would ever be angry at Morning Joe well you're beloved by everybody and this person said well this was somebody on the left who's very angry that you had Santorum on to talk about pepar I said well we had him on because he supports pepar it's like it's it's preaching to the the audience you want to reach but then the second thing was he s

aid well the I said well who else would ever call you and say don't like Morning Joe and he said well most of the complaints from people who think that you are too anti-trump and and Jeffrey I asked this question and I'm deadly serious here when you have somebody that says he says he writes it down on Truth social that he wants to terminate the Constitution that he wants to jail political opponents let me say this again this is not this is not Trump ha hatred this is using Trump's words just lik

e saying he wants to ter he was one who terminate Ry weight when you have somebody who's running for office that saids they want to terminate the Constitution they want to jail political opponents they want to execute generals who were insufficiently loyal they want to create Mass internment camps to send immigrants there they want to take networks off the air that are insufficient loyal and try their Executives for treason that's what he says how am I being too difficult how are you being too d

ifficult how is anybody who loves American democracy being difficult by pointing out the danger that that is in front of all of us if this guy gets back into the White House you know I'm about to engage in a bit of constructive media criticism here and and and which is the following you know we're so inured to his statements that we tend to ignore them but I think that every time he says well use the general Mark Milly issue right he should be tried for treason that should be Banner headlines th

e next day the former president says chairman of the Joint Chiefs should be tried for treason right when when when he talks about dismantling the Constitution that should be bannerad that should lead the news that should be everywhere it's sleep it's a sleepwalking as say why why is it not Jeff and why is it that when Hillary Clinton says the word deplorable in a speech it's Banner headlines for a month it seems When Donald Trump uses Nazi terminology to degrade human beings uses Vermin you hard

ly hear anything about it why is that Jeffrey I think it's I think it's normalization I think it's this process where one of the great attributes of human beings is that we can get used to anything right and so we got we got used to this and we just accept it as background noise I mean he does have these this this particular superpower in that and that he goes he goes further than anybody in in in in rhetoric and we kind of go yeah it's just Donald Trump and I think we have to reverse that and j

ust say no no no no no no this is a former president of United St look if if if a former president if Barack Obama if George W Bush said the things as a former president not running for president again said the things that Donald Trump said we would have we would have huge stories every day about a former president lose his mind right right you know and and says and meanwhile Donald Trump is the putative nominee for the presidency and here we are you know and and we we act like it's normal that'

s why this issue is so important and what Jeffrey just said it's normalization and we need to reverse that because normalization is exactly how it's starts and it is dangerous yeah I mean if Barack Obama had said a general should have been executed come on yeah how long would that how long how long how long would that be like Banner headlines on on the front pages everyone would have thought there was something wrong with him well there is something wrong with Donald Trump and I'm I'm serious he

doesn't look right up on stage he just doesn't and and and you look at him we've know if you like democracy there's something very wrong with him uh the F first eight essays of the new special issue are available now online at the atlantic.com editorinchief of the Atlantic Jeffrey Goldberg thank you so much for coming on this morning and thank you for this issue