So if you were waiting for
the worm to turn, the worm has backflipped, done a dive and turn. Yeah, dude. What is the worm? Have you never heard that? No. No, okay. Kelly hasn't heard it either. No, but I'm in. I like it. Cool. That took no time at all. Kinda rhymes. You know when I say something stupid,
I don't hear the end of it for days. Coming to you from Crunchyroll
HQ, this is the Anime Effect. Each week we bring you the latest news
and views from the shows you love. It's pop culture with a
n anime lens. We are joined today by author and
entertainment writer Kelly Knox. Welcome to the show Kelly. Hi, thanks for having me. Kelly's work is across sites like star
wars, star trek, dc comics, marvel comics, IGN and crunchyroll news. Oh. Uh, you can find her books
about all things marvel and star wars wherever books are sold. And we're going to talk about her
latest book, which when we're recording this, I think it released today. Today's my book birthday. Is that right? Yep. Yay! Book B
irthday. I love it. Happy birthday! Um, called Star wars Dad Jokes. Listen, this book is phenomenal. We'll talk about the book more
later, but it's phenomenal. Yes, but before all that, we
are going to talk about the latest anime news of the week. And for our main story, Kelly's
going to help guide us through the world of cozy anime. We do love a cozy anime. I'm your host, Nick Friedman. It's a me, LeAlec Murray. Do you, you can be part of this Me? I get to, hi, I'm Kelly Knox. And we're going t
o see just how
powerful the effect of anime really is. It's kind of weird
without the third voice. I know, uh, Leah could
not join us this week. Shout out to Leah. Shout out to Leah. Always, always. Uh, but we're here. And we're going to kick things
off by talking about what, what movie we saw last week. Uh, everybody prepare to take multiple
shots because, uh, we're going to mention Godzilla, kaijus, any kind of monsters for
at least the next, however long this goes. Before we talk our ears off
about
Godzilla x Kong: The New Empire. Kelly, have you seen it? I have not, I saw minus one, but
I have not seen the new concept. Okay. We're going to, we're going to keep,
we'll keep it as brief as we possibly can. Okay. I don't mind spoiling. Um, no spoilers. Yeah. We can't, we're not spoiling. This is not a spoiler cast. Yeah, I'm not. Yeah, I don't want to spoil this for
people because it's one of those like, I think you should go see it from
the pure popcorn movie standpoint. Yes. Right. I
forgot who, Wrote the interview
initially, or the review initially about this movie, and they said, if
this is where the director is taking us for the rest of the monsterverse,
um, because what's his name? Adam Wingard. So the review was like, if this is
where he's taking us for the rest of the monster verse for as long
as it exists, then sign me up. Yeah, and I totally agree with the
sentiment because like I think he had some small involvement in the
the Apple TV show as well To the monsterver
se show, you know, who
else was involved in the TV show? Matt Fraction. He was yeah He's one of my
favorite comic book writers. He's amazing. He's absolutely phenomenal but the
Just the dynamic of, and we've talked about this before, like minus one
and somebody made a really good comparison and I'm kind of upset. We didn't think of this, but the
Toho Godzilla films in Japan are still very much like he is a monster. He is a force of nature, whereas
legendary turned him into an action hero. And I'
m like, that is perfect. I couldn't have explained it any better. And I feel like it's so evident
in this movie specifically, the personality of both Kong and
Godzilla in this, like, Godzilla is like an adorable cat that- Yeah. If you, if you touch the cat
anywhere, but petting him on its head freaks out, just like, right. Imma blast you. Right. So normal cat. Right. Yeah. So normal. Exactly. Exactly. Also weirdly sounds like my dog who
I think has cat behaviors anyway. Um, but yeah, so we, uh,
me, Lee
and, and Leah saw the film just like a day or two early last week
in IMAX, uh, phenomenal, definitely recommend seeing it in IMAX as well.. It was great. And like the crowd, I mean, I think I
hadn't had such a like emotive experience in a movie theater, probably since
like end game and infinity war, where like people are clapping and screaming
and you know, just when Godzilla pops up on screen, everyone's yelling. Like, yeah, that was a good experience. I think also what I love about jus
t
Godzilla in general, especially like in the, the legendary verse, right. Cause it happens with the Toho films as
well, too, because he's supposed to be like, you know, nature's supreme guardian. He's like. I just want to take a nap in my coliseum. Yes, but y'all keep making
noise So I have to now get up. If I have to get up, things will get bad. And that's what this movie was, it's like,
If I have to get out of this coliseum, you are not going to like my mood. And that's how it went. I have to
say, and then we'll
move on, we'll get into the show. The scene where Kong picks up
Baby Kong and starts beating on other giant apes with it. You may have seen that
scene floating around. It's I, when I saw that, I
was like, Oh, like I'm, I'm strapped in, I'm ready to go. Also, like for the, for the wrestling
fans out there too, like, there's a lot of like nods to wrestling in here as well. There's at one point where
there's a, like Godzilla, the Kong, like suplex, it's just so ridiculous. The
physics are just like, whatever,
they're just like, whatever, giant lizard suplexing a monkey. Yeah, so it's no, it's, uh,
definitely enjoyable if you guys have seen it, please let us know
what you thought about the movie. Um, I'll talk Godzilla with
everybody, like all day long. Doesn't matter. I feel like at some point we
gotta do like a special drop where it's just talking about Godzilla. This way we're not subjecting all of
our audiences to us talking about it. Um, and yeah, Kelly, let us kn
ow
if you, uh, get a chance it. Yeah, y'all are convincing me. I got to see this now. Speaking of fun at the movie theater. Nice. Nice segue, buddy. Next up. We got the news of the week
including a fan favorite anime making its theatrical debut. Oh, yeah, and it's pretty cozy I think so. I think so. Counts as a cozy one. Yeah, all that's coming up All right, this week's news a lot how I
feel like I say this every week a lot happened in anime this week. But a lot happen All right. So our first s
tory for this
week Spy × Family Code: White. Yeah movie is Officially making its U. S. debut on April 19th. I'm so excited. Tickets are now on sale. Need to go buy my tickets. I haven't done it yet. We mentioned a while back that, uh, Spy
× Family was getting a movie, Code White. Crunchyroll's bringing it to theaters. You can finally buy tickets
if you're looking for details. Crunchyroll News. That's just my, the first of many
Crunchyroll News plugs in this episode. Right, right. Um, it'll be av
ailable subbed. English dubbed. And Lee, I know you already outed
yourself as not having bought your tickets yet, but how about you, Kelly? Do you have your tickets yet? Yeah, we already have ours, we,
uh, we're excited to see it. We love Spy × Family, so. And we were in, uh, Japan over the
holidays where it had come out, like, it was just coming out in theaters
and we didn't get to see it, but we saw all the, you know, the tie
ins and the posters and they were blasting, like, the theme song
ove
r speakers on the street, so we are ready to see it. The, the mission impossible,
like tie in poster. Like, it's so good. I need society here to get to the point
where we are blasting anime opening. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. In the streets. Just out in the open. Yeah, I saw a clip for it yesterday
because I was, you know, binge watching YouTube videos as, you know, one does. And the preview was like the one
where Anya is like at the fair. She's trying to shoot the targets. She was like, I couldn't
get them. They move too fast. And Loid was like, they weren't moving. I was like, yeah, yeah, that's me. I'm going to see it. I was actually going to bring up,
like, we're going to talk about cozy anime here in a bit, but. I wanted to like, you know, just
quickly go around and just be like, you know, what makes Spy × Family so cozy? I mean like it's a show that like
theoretically has like an assassin and a spy and there's blood and there's
action But like I feel like for me, it's Anya like Anya
pulls it together. It's yeah, I agree She's the like common
link for like the entire family like even bond they all coexist because
She's like My family has to exist by any means possible, and that's her motive,
like, while, like, Loid and Yor, like, have, like, I'm a, I'm a mission from a
government, I gotta, like, protect this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, she's like,
no, I don't want to be an orphan again, so I'm going to keep my family together,
and because of that, hijinx ensue, but It's
great because it almost gives me that
kind of like family, like sitcom, like feel, you know, like, you know, in the
nineties, watching like family matters. Yeah let's get a good
reference up in here. Family matters or like watching,
like, you know, hanging with Mr. Cooper or whatever. Like, it gives me like that vibe
of like, Hey, you're actually just existing as this family exists. And I love that Loid and, and Yor, they're
like, yeah, they're spy and assassin, but like they have the sweetest m
otives too. Like Loid doesn't want any kids to
be, you know, sad like he was growing up and Yor's protecting her brother. So they both still have like the nicest,
most wholesome motives, even though they're got the worst kind of jobs. right. Their jobs are absolutely horrible,
but they have the best intentions. Yeah. All right, but we will be seated. We will go see that
movie when it comes out. Solo leveling, which just wrapped
up season one and we can call it season one now because officially
t
hey announced season two. Let's go. I don't do it as good as Matt as Pat
McAfee, but yeah, I'm super excited. I'm super excited for this. I know Kelly's caught up on solo
leveling because she writes the recap articles for Crunchyroll News every week. Bless you, bless you. What did you, what did you
think of this first season? Uh, I liked it a lot. It was in the end of the, at the end of
the season, this last episode, they kind of backtracked like how far he had come. Jin Mu had come since the be
ginning. And I was like, Oh yeah, this
guy really has done a lot in just the one first season. I really enjoyed it. I wasn't familiar with the,
the story or anything at all. So it's been a, it was
a nice surprise for the. For the fall? Winter. Fall winter season. Yeah, winter Yeah, I know. It's, I'm like, what, what season is it? Yeah, yeah. In Texas it's like 65 degrees. I was like, that's not winter. It'll be 30 tomorrow. . . No, I, uh, I've actually been catching
up the last few days 'cause I
've, I've really just been watching one piece. Yeah. Like, that's, that's where
I mostly spend my time. You know what, I've been catching up,
like I've read deeper into the, the Manhwa than I did into like actually watching
the show, but I watched up to I think like episode four or five, whenever he
was in that first, like solo dungeon. Um, and very rarely do you see the
source material and the visual material kind of like almost stack one to one. Yeah. And this show did. A great job of stacking
one to one. So I am like super duper
impressed to see how they're going to execute going forward. Yeah. So the new season is officially called
solo leveling season two arise from the shadow, which if you've read the
webtoon, that will mean a lot to you. No spoilers. There's no firm release date just
yet, but we can say it will stream on Crunchyroll when it arrives. Um, anyway, go, uh, go blast the
OP cause that, uh, that song rips. I wanted to make sure this, this
new story got in here because
this created a lot of discourse in the,
uh, anime community last week. Oh I saw this. I saw this. Yeah yeah yeah. But, uh, the Oxford English dictionary
has officially added a number of, uh, additional Japanese words, including
isekai, fan service, and tokusatsu. Okay. So a bit of a quiz for our, for our
listeners and viewers, but obviously, if you recognize these words and you're
like, like, heck yeah, these should be in the dictionary, like Drop a comment. Let us know if you agree with it. The
big one was Isekai, right? That was the big one that the
anime community was talking about. There was an article that came out from
another publication that referenced shows like Frieren and Delicious and Dungeon
as potentially fitting under Isekai in this new I can see by your face. We're on the same page But you know,
we'll just say it so officially Webster's- this is so weird- Webster's Dictionary
defines, uh, Webster's Dictionary defines isekai as a Japanese genre of science or
fantasy fic
tion featuring a protagonist who is transported to or reincarnated in
a different, strange, or unfamiliar world. Also in anime, manga, video game, etc. in this genre. So to me, that aligns pretty closely
to what I already thought isekai was. Yeah yeah That kind of, that
lines up with what isekai is. And even the stretches come
down to like time travel. Right, right. Or fell into a wormhole and Right. Ended up in prehistoric times. Yeah. Yeah. Like Digimon, I would consider dig
fitting, fitting i
nto that category. Yeah, for sure. Frieren is not, is not that the story is
told in two different time periods, but it's not isekai, yeah, it's not an isekai. It's the same world. Same thing with delicious and dungeon. Like it is not an isekai. Like it is a fantasy story told from
the, the view of playing like D and D. And that's kind of where I think the,
it kind of gets kind of, I guess, the blurred lines, because a lot of. Isekai is told in a fantasy setting. Sure. So, I can see where that ge
ts kind of
skewed because a lot of Isekai is done like, oh hey, I'm in the modern world
and oh my god, I'm suddenly like a slime in a, you know, a fantasy setting. Like no, just because it's a fantasy
setting doesn't make it an Isekai. Like some fantasy stories
are meant to be exactly that. Kelly, what are your thoughts on
the Isekai discourse right now? Um, you know, I definitely don't think
those two are Isekai, although I heard there's a, uh, a rumor that maybe one
of the characters in Friede
n is from another world, and like, secretly. But I don't know. I don't know about that, because I
don't think they would play subtle. I mean, that would, that would greatly
change my opinion of the show honestly. Now I've got to pick, now
I've got to read the manga. Yeah. Now I've got up where the anime
left off and read the manga. Now I have to go do my own research. I was like, if that's true,
now I feel bad because, I guess, okay, I don't feel bad because
But potentially, if that is true, it'
s an isekai for them, for that character. Right, right, right. It's not for everybody else, not
for the greater, the greater whole. I will say, I can't believe it
took this long for fanservice to get in the dictionary. I feel like that's been around forever. Yeah, I feel like that's a term that's
been around since like, the early, like, at least the mid 80s to like,
90s when anime was like, creeping. I thought fanservice was always a thing. Yeah, and that's a, that's a good segue. Webster's defi
nes fanservice as- can we have a segment where
you just say Webster says? Webster's dictionary defines fanservice. Fan services, um, material added to
a work of fiction for the perceived or actual purpose of appealing to the
audience used, especially of material that is risque or sexual in nature. Yeah, it tracks. Solid. Solid. It's interesting because like, to me,
yeah, I like, cause reading comic books, fan service is kind of have a different. That's what I was gonna say. It's almost completel
y
different, reading comic books. It's like when you're reading
a guardians of the galaxy run. And Cosmo shows up. Yep. That's fanservice. Yeah, fanservice in comic books
is more so like kind of in the same thing as is wrestling. Yeah, it's like playing to your audience. Like it's it's less like of the risque
nature and more of the like, oh, hey, like What's batman doing in bloodhaven? Like it's it's less of that. Though to be fair You bringing
up Bloodhaven reminds me of like, newer Nightwing r
uns where like,
he's just got his shirt off. Yeah. Like, that's also fanservice. That's also fanservice, yeah. They, uh, God bless Tom Taylor. Uh, another one of my
favorite comic book writers. Like, he's leaned all the way
into like, yeah, society at large thinks, Dick Grayson is pretty hot. So I'm just gonna , we're just gonna lead
all the way into this from the ab to the butt jokes, like we're gonna do all of it. Uh, but yeah. So just, just a few other words, uh, that
were added to the dictio
nary: tokusatsu. Yep. Um, which, you know, if you
know Lee, you know tokusatsu. That's it. That's it. . Mangaka, uh, Okonomiyaki. Yep. And Onigiri.. Which, you know, 25 years after the
infamous jelly donuts before kids Pokemon, Onigiri has finally been
added to the Webster's dictionary. We can finally cross out jelly donuts
and be like, it's actually Onigiri. Wrapping up our new segment for this
week, uh, as you know, the spring season is among us on Crunchyroll, um, I think
shows kicked off thi
s past weekend. Yeah, yeah. Some shows started on the first. We've got a spring season update. Ooh. First up, Kaiju No. 8 is going to be the first anime on
Crunchyroll to stream simultaneously live with the Japanese broadcast. You will be able to watch Kaiju No. 8 as it is airing in Japan on
Crunchyroll with English subtitles. Insane. That's awesome. Insane. And not just English subtitles. Latam Spanish, Portuguese,
German, and French subtitles. Insane. So that's going to start Saturday,
April 1
3th at 7am Pacific. Those episodes will be streaming
weekly, so you can watch them live like old school TV. That's so cool. Which is coming back. Basically, it's back. We're fully here. That's really cool. I never thought we would, from an
old school, like, anime perspective, I never thought we would get to a
point to where we're sharing the same broadcast, especially this title. It's almost very much like Arnold
Schwarzenegger kicking the door open and being like, And then we're getting
like, f
ull like, broadcast now. No, no. You want to take that again? No. I yard what I yard. I'm not trying to blow out
Pat's ears over here, so. I do love the shared experience of it all. It's like, you know, our
simulcasts are shortly after the Japanese broadcast anyway. And so, um, this feels like a culmination
of that experience, which is really cool. Kelly. I'm curious your perspective. I mean, obviously you write, you know,
a number of recaps for crunchy roll. So you are watching the shows as
the
y air, but you also talk a lot about like Star Wars and Marvel on
on your social and professionally. And, you know, part of that is
watching new episodes of Star Wars shows as they come out weekly. So I'm curious your
perspective on on this. So for, for my early days of anime
watching, and I'm totally going to age myself here, but we had to buy a VHS
tape, mail it to a fan subber, wait for them to copy it and send it back. Right. And you'd get four episodes. And that's how we watched, when
I was
in college, that's how we watched Sailor Moon Sailor Stars. Oh so- was you were, you were anime tape trading. Old school. Oh man. the fact that Kaiju No. 8's gonna be at the same time, like, I
almost can't physically process that. It's super hard to fathom. Yeah. And then you know, to see other
anime, we had to go to the college anime club and watch screenings that
they, and you could borrow tapes if you were lucky enough to get one. So yeah, like, fast forwarding to
where we are now, it's just
, first of all, just the simulcasting and in
general, will always be amazed by it. But for Uh, binging versus the
weekly I do, like, the weekly. Uh, the only thing I don't like is when
the episode comes out at, like, 3 a. m. Fair. Fair. And so some people will, like,
stay up and catch you know, Mandalorian or whatever at 3 a. m. by the time you wake up, it's
like, people have already seen it. I'm like, wait a minute. Yeah, people are already
talking about it, I'm old. I need to sleep. Give me s
ome, give me some time here. Yeah, yeah, So I know what you're thinking. You might be like, Oh, Kaiju
is the big news for this week. We're going into the main story. No. Two more shows. Spring season. Crunchyroll. Okay. Shows that are returning. Okay. That Time I Got Reincarnated
as a Slime Season 3. Yes! Okay, Rimuru is back. Right. And his whole kingdom are back, the
slime lord, the slime Lord has returned. Thank you. Thank you. Slime Lord. And it is an isekai. It is. So everyone hits the isek
ai button. I've mentioned an isekai. Um, for those that don't know that
time I got reincarnated as a slime. It's about a man who, as you
may guess, dies and is then reincarnated as a slime monster in
another world, but it definitely doesn't go how you would expect. No, not at all. He becomes an all powerful being. Watch the, yeah, watch the first
episode and you'll know, you'll know. So season three actually kicked off the
recap episode on March 30th and then, uh, the first episode of the actual
new content will kick off on April 5th. So check that out. I'm so excited. So, you know what, you know, what's
next, what's next, my hero academia, season seven, um, big, big, my
hero fans in this room for sure. Yeah dude. Yes. Um, it's going to kick off with memories,
which is a recap of the events of the series so far, there'll be a few episodes
kind of just getting everyone up to speed. I'm excited to get a refresher. Cause there's a lot that happens, like
even like if you're reading the man
ga and you have to like, in Horikoshi
sensei makes a reference to something, I'm like, Wait, where was that from? And you're like, wait, wait,
wait, wait, wait, wait, uh, yeah. Um, and then that's going to
tee up season seven, which will officially kick off on May 4th. Picking up where season
six left off, y'all, like. If you were big into my hero and
you maybe fell off because you're like, oh, there's so many seasons. This is where you pick back up. Get back. I mean, get back on with season six
at least because the events of that season really, like that's some
of the best the show's ever been. Yeah. For people that have been waiting for,
I guess, the turning point for my hero, because my hero happens in phases and
I don't want to like kind of spoil it for people that aren't reading. But there is a very like. Happy go lucky. I'm happy to be here. Superhero story that quickly
turns into like, oh, we're now dealing with some real mess. Yeah. Which will escalate after that. Yeah. So if y
ou were waiting for the worm
to turn, the worm has back flipped. Done a dive. The worm to turn. Yeah. Dude. What is the worm? Have you never heard that, that term? No. No, no. Okay. Kelly hasn't heard it either. No, but I'm in. I like it. cool. That took no time at all. Kinda rhymes. You know, when I say something stupid. Yeah? I don't hear the end of it for days. My parents call me and they're like,
Hey, remember when you said that really stupid thing six weeks ago? I think that's, I think
pare
nts just do that. I think they're just randomly calling
me like, Hey, do you remember the thing? No, I don't want to remember the
thing that I did when I was six. Like, what are you doing? I am a 30 plus year old man. Like why? I love that. I'm a 30 plus year old man. Are you a my hero fan Kelly? Yes. Yes. Yes. It's been a little while though. I should, and we watched it weekly,
so it's probably been, I don't know how long since we've seen it. I should catch back up. But yeah, All Might's my guy
. Oh, yeah. Okay. Up next we get to talk about only the
best of the best cozy anime out there and there's a lot to choose from but we have
the cozy anime expert to help us out with that because not sure if you know this. I mean, I know this. I mean, yeah, I know this. But Kelly, right? Well, yeah, of course. But Kelly writes the cozy anime
corner for Crunchyroll every month. Not to be confused with Nick's
rom com corner, but they both coexist in the same universe. You cannot tell me any differen
t. So, you won't want to
miss her recommendations. That next. Webster's Dictionary. Uh, it is time to dim the
lights, maybe light a fire. Lighting a fire is like, when I see light
a fire, I'm like, run, uh, maybe Put on a book light a gameboy color light. That's what I was going to say. Can I bring my worm light from the
gameboy color and plug it up somewhere? Get the fireplace all
good and ready and safe. Yeah. Safe. Get your robe, your bear slippers. Safely start a fire. Safely. Remember, stop
, drop, and roll. Get comfy, get cozy. Because we're talking
all things cozy anime. How's that ASMR voice? Is that good? Yeah. Okay. Yeah, let's keep it. Thanks. Our main story this week, cozy anime. How do we define it? How does it affect us? What is it? What qualifies? Let's start with the beginning. I, I, I figured we could come
up with like two or three like words that define cozy anime. You can't say cozy because
it's right there in the name. Right. It's the lowest of hanging fruit. So I fi
gure each of us
can come up with one. So, Kelly. Low stakes is what I would say to start. Well, that is the words. No saving the world. No big fights. Cause for me, that kind of
stresses me out a little bit. So, not cozy. Low stakes. Low stakes. Low stakes. I like that. Lee. Ooh. Uh, satisfying I think I'm gonna go with
because it's like, even if you watch, even if you just watch one episode,
you're like, yeah, yeah, I'm good. And you don't have to like watch
anymore unless you really want to. Y
eah. I'm gonna go with No pressure. Smooth. Oh, yeah. So we could be talking about the art
style, the colors, the direction, the voice acting, the music, the premise. Smooth. I'm thinking about do it yourself. Yeah, I know. I was like, he's gonna say do it yourself. I know he is. Okay. So, um, You know, I have
a story for this part. I'm sure you guys both do too, but
how does cozy anime affect you? How does it make you feel? Yeah, and When do you
typically turn to it? Mmm, I think for me it's be
cause I
watch so much like Shonen or Shonen adjacent when it comes to anime or if
I'm like watching TV shows, they're very action heavy you're like There's a
lot of like high value drama happening. Usually I'm like, I need to go watch
something that is not going to just like spike my anxiety, my adrenaline, my blood
pressure, my blood pressure, or like cause my synapses to just go absolutely insane. So that's usually when I go and
watch something that's very like low barrier of entry, like, and
it's usually something I've probably watched before because of that. And I usually like turn to that same one. That's actually a good
thing you bring up like. I'm sorry to go on a tangent here,
but like, can a stressful show that was stressful the first time
you watched it, like I think about something like Dragon Ball Z, right? Like has a lot of action, but there's
a nostalgia built into it, right? Does that become a cozy anime
after a certain period of time because it's comfortable for you? Ye
ah, it can. Yeah, absolutely. I think like, you know, and Kelly, I
definitely, you know, want to make sure we have your perspective on this too. But I think a show like, even
if it's like for Leah, right? Like they love Attack on Titan. Yeah, that could very much be
cozy sector, which is wild. Yeah, which is crazy, but I
totally see what you mean. But it but it could be right For me,
like, you know, one that I'll call out is I'm gonna talk about Kuroko's
basketball again And probably because I'm
such a fan of the sport and because
like you understanding the sport and understanding the anime It's like I
don't have to I don't have to like feel like I have to immerse myself To like,
relearn the rules of a world or whatever. You just like roll right into it. Yeah, just roll right into it. It's like, oh, he's doing this
or this is happening, right? So I think that's, you know,
to your point with Dragon Ball. It's like, I know Raditz
and Goku is happening. Or I know, you know, Goku
and Picco
lo is happening. Like, I know, like, I know what's coming. So I can easily settle myself in. And lowers the stakes in a certain
way, at least for you personally, which I think fits that definition. How about you, Kelly? Uh, for me, it's, it's pretty
similar to what you're saying. I always think of it as a palate cleanser. So, you know, we'll watch Jujutsu
Kaisen or Attack on Titan or something that's very, like, stressful. And then, you know, I'll turn on, uh, I
think we were, I was following up
Jujutsu Kaisen with like, My New Boss is Goofy
every week, which is like two entirely different shows but -Oh, Yeah. kind of would like always end on the
coziest, nicest feeling to kind of like calm myself down and reset a little I agree. But yeah, I see what you guys are saying
about like comfort versus cozy, like Rogue one. I know we're gonna talk about
Star Wars in a little bit. Rogue One is Very stressful the first
time you see it and very, very sad, but now that's my comfort movie. I put
it on when fly because I just like
to have it on in the, in the background. So yeah, I think there's a, I think
they overlap, but they don't have to be, your comfort show doesn't have to be
your cozy show, which I think is nice. I think a show that was one for
me, like the season, like both like a comfort and a cozy show. Like, 'cause Kelly, you
brought up Juujitsu Kaizen. Don't say Juujitsu kaizen Season
two . It was so stressful. But after that I'm like, you know, fluffy
Paradise was like, if
you're want to talk about a new show that is like super cozy
vibes, like is it an, is it an isekai?? Yeah, but Hit the button. Hit the button. Um, but. The way that the world functions and
the, the stuff that happens, it's just like, Oh, it's just like, she just
wants to like go pet animals and just like be in this world and make sure
people aren't like fighting each other. Like, that's, that's it. Like, I'm all about this. Like, let's go pet a big God
tiger for like 30 minutes. That's fine. It'
s not dangerous at all. It's not dangerous at all. I think about like the times when I
turn to cozy anime, I feel like when the real world gets really stressful. Yeah. Um, I, I will usually turn. I mean, obviously rom coms
fit into that category. We don't need to go
into the corner for it. We're not in the corner. We're in a different corner right now. Yeah, rom coms fit that pretty squarely. I put a show like ranking of
Kings in there for me, which does have stakes, but like, yeah. That y'all k
now if you if you know me at
all, you know, I love ranking of Kings I literally want to get a Bogie tattoo. Bogie supremacy. Just seeing that show seeing a frame from
that show like it gives you the cozies. Cools my anxiety Yeah, like
think- it lowers my heart rate. I think it's because of like And
I think cozy anime can also depend on like how much of the character's
point of view you kind of share or like how, how you're seeing the
world in relation to that character. And I think Ranking of K
ings did
that very well, where you were, you were living the world through
the eyes of this boy, eyes of Boji. And because of that, you were sharing in
a lot of the emotions that he was feeling, but when he was at the cooler moments,
even when he was like in the midst of battle or whatever, and he's kind of
learning who he is, it's like, okay, cool. Like you kind of you see him de
stressing, which means disarming. Also distressing. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, that's a good one. When I think ab
out classic stuff, I think
about like early one piece is very comfy. Digimon Adventure is very comfy. It's just very like, And I would
probably even say like, you know, you said early Digimon, I think early
Pokemon is kind of the same way, right? Because you're like, some of
those episodes are scary man. Some of those episodes
are Island giant Pokemon. Yeah, everything with Sabrina. The, the giant Tentacruel,
like what was happening? Kind of scary. The shipwreck? Yeah, dude, what, what? But I th
ink, you know, but when I say
that is because a lot of us when we were watching the anime, we were also playing
the games at the same time and we were having this feeling of like, For a lot
of us, and I know for me specifically, like it opened up my love for like RPGs
because it's, you know, in its structure. It is. Yeah. And because of that, it's like,
Oh, I'm also enjoying the show, but Sabrina is also very creepy. And I don't think, I don't think
they're coming out of this one alive. Oh my go
sh. Um, so Kelly, I'm curious. So obviously you write about cozy anime
on a monthly basis, but you're also, you know, you watch a ton of stuff. You watch a lot of new stuff. I'm curious what trends are you seeing
in kind of this cozy anime space? Like, are there certain storylines or
characters or themes that you feel like are common across newer cozy shows? I think in Japan, they're kind
of called more instead of cozy shows are called healing anime. And I feel like that's kind of been
a little
more prevalent with anime. Like my new boss is goofy. The whole show is about, you know,
getting over a horrible boss and a horrible company, which you might
sound familiar if you've seen Zom 100. So I think in Japan in particular,
that's a more common theme, I think, is healing from putting up with
harassment at work or, you know, a horrible boss and things like that. So I think there's, um, A
lot of that more recently. There's also so much food in
most of these food and cooking. There's campfi
re cooking in another
world, which is kind of like, uh, delicious and dungeon, but it's, uh,
it's also, it's actually an isekai where he goes to another world. And instead of trying to like save
the world or defeat a bad guy. Hit the button. he's yeah, he's just, he's just
cooking monsters, which just, if you delicious and dungeon. Try campfire cooking in another world. So there's that laid back camp,
which I think is the peak cozy anime. I think Nick talked about this
the other week or two on o
n here. It's just like if you want to know
what cozy anime is, cozy healing anime, it's it's laid back camp. so yeah, I think that I think a lot more. I just got chills again. I think there's a lot of great options. Um, but yeah, I think a lot, a lot
more like reaffirming your faith and humanity type shows are, are really
kind of getting there and getting popular. Yeah. Oh, that brings to mind. I don't remember the name of
the show and I feel so bad. Why do I feel like you're
thinking about Supe
r Cub? No, no, no. Okay. It was the show. That is on my list Monday. With the tree gaurdian... thats... Oh, Somali and the Forest Spirit? Yes. Yes. That's a good one. That one was it was sad. It was. Um, but I had the best like time
watching it because of that. Not only was it like a cozy healing anime,
but then he was also kind of on this journey to like heal just in general. And I felt like that was
like, it was peak for me. And I'm like, man, like I saw it the
other day, like in my recommenda
tions. I'm like, I already read this or I already
watched this, but I'm like, maybe you're telling me I should watch it again. Ooh, that's like another layer. Um, well, I, I want to know what. The viewers and listeners at
home think are like the, the best cozy anime out there. What is the epitome for you? I mean, we talked about laid back camp. That's, that's also mine. That's I think that is like the
number one greatest cozy anime. But yeah, let us know if you
drop a review on Apple podcast. Fi
ve stars only, um, like subscribe,
comment, let us know your cozy anime. You can, yeah. If you drop it in the
comments, we'll see it. Or if you're watching on YouTube or
Crunchyroll, you can leave a comment. But I'm curious. I would love to. Circle back to this next week. Yeah, for sure. I'm always curious to see what you guys
are watching or reading that is, uh, that is, that is a cozy time for you. Okay. So shifting gears. I want to make sure we have time
to talk about something else I find in
credibly cozy: dad jokes. Nice. not a father. Neither am I, but I have a father. Yeah, same, but I appreciate a good
dad, I appreciate a good dad joke and Kelly, this book is full of phenomenal,
phenomenal, phenomenal dad jokes. I sent a couple of these
to my best friend, Joe. And not only what he was like, I
don't know whether to like laugh hysterically or hate you right
now, and I'm like, I'm sorry, bro. Like Like I'm reading this and it's
like one that I and I'm glad I flipped to this page 26
if you guys read this Please, buy a copy. Read along. Why do warriors of Mandelore
leave their helmets on? I don't know, why? It's mandetor-ian. My favorite is, uh, any of the ones
that call out like some of the more, like the lesser known characters
to like mainstream, so like the Dr. Afra one, I was like,
this one's just for me. I just passed that one. Have you met the rogue archaeologist, Dr. Afra? Her career is in ruins. This is good. This is really good. This is great. So even if you like,
even if you're
like, why are you guys talking about a joke about Star Wars dad books? Like they're dad jokes. Like it's just just roll with it. Get the book. You'll have a time. So, first, where did the idea
from this book come from? And where did the jokes come from? Sort of a wild story. So I guess I'll start back when my
daughter was in elementary school. I used to put a dad joke in her
lunchbox every day to read to her friends at the lunch table. I wasn't writing the jokes. I was just grabb
ing them off,
you know, the internet and then handwriting it and throwing it in there. So I'd already had like, A brain full of
these because I did that for like most of elementary school and so fast forward
to lockdown during covid I was on Twitter like we all were and everything was doom
and gloom and we were all doom scrolling and I thought, you know, I'm tired of
seeing horrible things on my timeline. I'm going Tweet something stupid and so
being a Star Wars quote unquote expert I turned a r
egular classic dad joke into a
Star Wars dad joke and so it wasn't like a hit or viral or anything like that But
it was just enough distraction to where I thought I'll just do this every day for
as long as I can We'll see how it goes so I told Star Wars dad jokes for like a
year and a half every day Um, and people kept saying, Oh, this would be a funny, I love it. This would be funny book. And so I'd actually been saving
all the jokes in a spreadsheet because I didn't want to double
up because I
'm a huge nerd. Yeah. And, uh, I ended up sending the
spreadsheet to, uh, an editor. Because he had heard from Lucasfilm that,
that it might be an interesting book. And so with the spreadsheet in
hand, that was kind of my pitch. And then it went from there. So kind of a wild story. Wow. That's awesome. That's, that's actually really cool. I love the fact that you were, you were
on this crusade to tell a star wars dad joke for a year and a half and it just
turned into a book that is phenomenal. T
here will definitely be
multiple copies of this bought and given to people as gifts. Yes. Um, especially my, my
friends that are dads. And if you, if you do not already
follow Kelly on Twitter, um, you, you, you have to, it's, it's a ride. It's good stuff. Good stuff. Peak content. Congratulations on the book launch. Yeah. No, congratulations. And I do want to give a shout out
to the illustrator, Johnny Sampson. I swear, the pictures in this book are The
funniest thing, like, I cracked up so man
y times when I saw them for the first time. Yes. the art in is phenomenal. Yes. Phenomenal. All right. You know what time it is? It's recommendations time. Oh, it's recommendations time, baby. Since we've already recommended a
bunch of cozy anime, let's share our favorite cozy video games. First though, we have a bunch of fan
recommendations that we want to share. Yes. So quick shout out to everyone
who wrote us on Apple podcasts, on Twitter, on Crunchyroll. Yeah. I love reading you guys' commen
ts. It's, it's awesome. So this one is @booklens on YouTube. Um, I listened to this episode on
Spotify, but I had to come over here. And comment that I'm watching the final
season of attack on Titan, uh, episode 82 at the moment, and every single
episode has me screaming into a pillow. I'm going to text Leah like right
after this and be like, look! This one's for you! The attack on Titan agenda! It continues. And then, what is it, uh,
@robzabawa3604 on YouTube? Old school shoutout, been watching
Gintama, that's a great one. Um, and Tommy Heavenly 6 Pray still slaps. There you go. We've got Villiam2951 on Crunchyroll
who said I'm currently watching The Unwanted Undead Adventurer and loving it. Thumbs up emoji. That's one of my favorite ones for
the season for the winter season too. Oh really? I haven't checked it out. It's pretty good. Is it isekai? No, it's a fantasy story. Do not hit the isekai button. Do not hit the button. QueenBean17 on Crunchyroll has said
I'm watching The Danger
s in My Heart. Which, I, it's on my list
because I know it's a rom com. Uh, Inuyasha, classic, a sign of
affection, 10 out of 10 no notes show. Yup. Gotta watch that. Yeah, 10 just watch. Undead Unluck, and uh, Blue Eyed
Samurai, which I know isn't anime, but it's supposed to be really good. Yeah. I haven't checked it out yet. Anime adjacent. Oh, this is a good one. Smallville124510 on Crunchyroll. Um, I'm watching solo leveling Sasaki and
peeps, the demon prince of Momochi house. The wrong way
to use healing magic. Uh, what is that snack? Basu. Is it basu or Basue, basue? I don't know. Basu. Um, the weakest tamer began to
journey to pick up the trash, the unwanted undead adventurer. The Witch and the Beast, Brave Bang
Bravern, Delusional Monthly Magazine, Metallic Ruse, and Shingoku Yoku. I ran out of fingers. What is your schedule? Listen, this is me at the beginning
of every season where I'm like, on like, Oh yeah, I got 18 shows
I'm watching, and then by the end I'm like, I'm watc
hing two. Any list, it's like six
episodes behind, eight episodes behind, nine episodes behind. Yeah. And then our last one for this week,
uh, is from @SlibTheSlime on Twitter. I've been watching
Nichijou: My Ordinary Life! let's go. Great show. First comes rock. What, what's it going to be? Rock, paper, scissors,
and a one, two, three. So good. So good. Another 10/10 show. 10/10.. Um, again, if you want to, uh, have your
recommendations read on the show, uh, you can write in on Twitter, Crunch
yroll,
YouTube, uh, or our favorite, an exclusively five star review on Apple
podcasts, exclusively, exclusively, um, all right, cozy gaming, video games. Let's do it. So. Uh, Kelly, what have you
brought for us this week? Oh, I love indie cozy games, so these are
probably some you haven't heard of. Uh, I am playing Minami Lane. It's like a little town sim
management type thing, but it's like management lite, so it's fun. It's five dollars on Steam. It's five missions. It's like a couple hours.
You just build a little cute town and
You know tell people to go buy ramen and boba tea and go to the onsen. It's great um and venba,
which is a cooking game. It's on game pass. That's a really fun one Uh, yeah,
but i'm also playing things like dragon's dogma 2 and you know Very cozy. Of infinite wealth. Yeah arisen! There's a cooking simulator over here! Super cozy. My arisen doesn't play cozy games. Look, ladder. A ladder! I wonder if we can climb it. Well spotted. A chair. Can we sit in it? I
haven't played Dragon's Dogma 2 yet, but
i, uh, But one has enough jokes to carry. That's true. That's true. Young Nicholas, what have
you brought us this evening? I went, I actually, we talked
about this before the show. I kind of had trouble coming up
with this, which is crazy because like, I consider myself a bad gamer
or like I play most games on easy. I like to experience the story. So I went with a safe answer, which
is, Any of the mainline Pokemon games, particularly when we're looking a
t like
the DS era, it's just a very like heart gold, soul silver, black and white,
like those games, just the music alone. Like I could turn the game on and
just like tape a rubber band to the stick on the 3DS and just listen
to the music change as it goes. I'm sure there's an easier way
to listen to the soundtrack. There probably is. Especially now, I'm sure. But I've been playing stuff that
I consider cozy that other people may consider very stressful. So I'm playing a new game called
pepper g
rinder on the switch. It's great. Okay. It's basically drill dozer. If you remember drill dozer
from game freak meets Celeste. Oh, okay. So it's very like purpose
built platforming. Okay. So it's, but you're, you're
weaving in and out of like. Rock and stone with your
drill and chaining stuff. And very fun. I think it's like 15 bucks. Um, great Indy. Um, and then Balotro, which is the
poker deck building roguelike game. Oh, you were telling me about this one,
which I actually, yeah, I, I stand b
y it. It is, it is a cozy game. Some of the jokers can
kind of stress you out. So the whole deal is like, you have a
normal deck of cards and the element that changes things is there are like buffs
and debuffs for cards on each round. Uh huh. As well as joker cards, and the joker
cards add new layers of gameplay. So it might be like Every card that ends,
you know, that's even gets timestamp multiplier, like something like that
um, but yeah, I'll stop talking about the, uh, my poker deck building
road. Like Lee, what did you get for this week? Um, I'm gonna echo you on the
Pokemon thing, probably because I have such an attachment to it since
I was like a kid, like the first. Console one of the first consoles I
owned was a Game Boy and when Pokemon, like, like when the Pokemon craze
first started coming over, like I had to be in immediately and my parents
obliged and, you know, 30 some odd years later, here we are, uh, still
playing Pokemon and enjoying it. I love that you're not being s
pecific. You did 30 plus, you
did 30 some odd years. Yeah, I like that for you. I think ultimate cozy for me
is probably the Kirby series. Um, I love platformers and especially
like a platformer that is like low barrier of entry, super low stress. I mean, depending on the Kirby game
you're playing, Yeah, I was like triple deluxe and robo bot get kind of crazy. Um, But, like, there's something to be
said about, like, just a game character that, like, all you know about him is
that he's a pink puf
f, he likes to eat food, he loves his friends, and if you
mess with any of those, he is on it, he is on you, and he will chase you. He loves his enemies, too. Yeah, it's true, man. He loves a lot of these, bro. He hangs out with Meta. Meta knight will try and kill him,
and he'll be like, hey, what if I- You cool if they play as you for this one? Yeah, he's like, I guess
you guess I have cake. Okay, I Guess I'll do it. But like it's I there's something
just innately comforting about like a charac
ter like that, right? He's basically just like Nintendo
John wick if you think about it. I was gonna say he's the only mega
level mutant in the Nintendo catalog. He really is and he's just
like You stole my cake. I'm gonna chase you down. And then he's like, Oh, okay. You know what? or, we just share. And it's like, dudes, you were
going kill me five seconds ago. I do have the power to throw you
into a black hole inside my stomach. However, let's just share the cake. Right. Let's just share the
cake. And we'll all be happy. It's just really cool and really
comforting to see that, like, The games can still be made in a major genre. Um, but still satisfy the itch of
like, Hey, I want to play this, but I don't want to be stressed out. Like I am when I play Mario. So it's a good pick. What time is it? It's mailbag time. We still don't have a mail carrier yet,
so we'll, we'll figure that out, but got a couple of questions on the docket today. Let's see what you guys brought
us and we'll ans
wer accordingly. Maybe. I think we will. And this question comes from
@Villiam295 on Twitter. Welcome back, VIlliam. Welcome back. Thank you for your recommendations. What anime would you like to
see turned into a video game? And what genre of video game would it be? Me, campfire cooking in another
world as a cooking RPG game. That is a very good choice. Great. That is a very good choice. Wow. All right. Let's think. Let's think. I know mine, but it's kind of,
it's kind of a twist on it though.
Oh, yeah. No, go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. Okay. What I really want is a
tabletop game based on the wrong way to use healing magic. I don't know if you guys seen. That would be fantastic. But I really like how the healers in
that, in that show use their magic. So that's, that's immediately
what I would want. Okay. I haven't seen the show. Is it like, do they use
it for like offense too? Is that part of it? They like push them or they're,
they push themselves really hard and constantly heal t
hemselves so they
can like fight and it's awesome. jump off a cliff, buff yourself. Yeah, exactly. No fall damage. Yep. Okay. I'm going to go weird with this one. There's, there's a million
answers for this question. Right. Yeah, absolutely. I'm going to go an Aggretsuko. Platformer. Okay. That has an anger based mechanic. Oh, that sounds To where, like if you
miss jumps or like an enemy hits you. Yeah, you like aggro and you get angry
and then the music changes and the screaming starts and you
start like barely
think of it like the superstar in Mario. Yeah, we start. Yeah, cool. I think I said this when I had delicious
and dungeon as my recommendation, but I would love to have like A delicious
and dungeon kind of like RPG cooking game like they were saying with this
one second question from @CasualOtakuRoy from Twitter, which anime character
has the strongest superpower? Good guy or bad guy? Oh, gosh. Oh, that is loaded. It's like with the power scaling of anime. That is a loaded loa
ded loaded question. Uh, by technicality, Kirby. I was gonna say, if we're following
the same technicality, it would also be RimiRu, so it's just
the puffball and the slime boy. I mean, like, you know, part of you wants
to say, like, Goku or Saitama, but like, I feel like they're contextually the
most powerful Goku definitely has more of a, of a play there because we see him
get stronger than the universe's most powerful beings throughout the series. I don't know. What do you think, Kelly? I don
't know. Maybe. 'cause we were talking about my hero. My thoughts went back to Mirio
and how everybody underestimated him, but I don't know if he's. the most powerful. I don't know. that's a tough one. He definitely uses his, his cork
in a very like unusual way that makes him like super strong. Yeah, I was going to say like having
the strongest superpower doesn't mean they're the most resilient. So like overhaul. Yeah. My hero. Yeah. He was scary. Sugar Rocky. Sugar. Yeah. Sugar. Rocky. Yeah. I
feel like Gojo is an easy answer. Oh yeah. Gojo's a lay up. Oh yeah. Um, yeah. Agreed. Well, cool. Um, yeah, uh, you guys let
us know which anime character is the strongest superpower. Good guy or bad guy. Let us know what anime you'd
love to see turned into a game. Let us know your cozy recs. Yes. All, all of the above. I want to see what people's
answers are for this, this week. And if you want to ask a question on the
show, you can drop it in the comments wherever you're watching or respond
t
o the social posts that comes out on Crunchyroll's Twitter every week. But I think, uh, that about
does us for this week. I think that's it, man. Kelly. Thank you so much for joining
us on what I hope is your first appearance on the anime effect. Please, please come back. Everybody. Star Wars dad jokes. In stores now. Go buy it. It's fantastic. Kelly, anything else, uh,
you want to plug or say? I have another book at the end of two
other books at the end of the month. There's a Marvel Studios
ch
aracter encyclopedia and Return of the Jedi visual archive. Those are both, um, say less. I'm there. I'm there. those are both out. Uh, April 23rd. So keep an eye out for those. Awesome. Heck yeah. Yeah. Awesome. And of course, you can read,
uh, Kelly's Cozy Anime Corner column on Crunchyroll News. Lots of alliteration there. Yeah. Every month on Crunchyroll News. Yep. So check it out. Thanks, Kelly. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Thanks for joining us for another
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