Lost media searches have recently exploded
in popularity. And for good reason. In a time where we can get almost anything we want
almost instantly, the idea that something, anything is out of reach for our curious eyes
is not only strange but even somewhat upsetting. Not to mention, many find the search itself to be
half the fun. Being able to resurrect a piece of lost media from obscurity or just being able to
prove it exists is incredibly gratifying. These searches have often not only bee
n successful
but brought back important pieces, whether for their entertainment or even historical value.
Usually, the goal for lost media is to have it no longer be lost media. But there are some
special cases of lost media that are simply so... wretched, that it really is better for them
to be locked away, wherever "away" may be. Rather than going for obvious media that should stay
lost, like media solely known for being illegal or only made to have excessive gore and death,
I wanted to
focus on lost media that would be actively detrimental if found. As in, they would
likely have a severe negative effect on those that appeared or are connected to that lost media,
whether that be damage emotionally, socially, or otherwise. Today, we're going to cover just a
few of these pieces. I've also structured these pieces of lost media based on how disturbing I
personally found them. So, if you're interested in hearing the most distressing media I was
able to find, do stick around to
the end. I'm Hector Holtz, and I do investigative work on
internet mysteries. Join me as we shine a light on the obscure and unheard, unraveling their tales.
This is Lost Media That Should NEVER Be Found. #1 "Dude, This Sucks!" (MTV)
Date Created: 2000 We'll start off with easily the most disgusting
one on our list, and I found the more I learned about it, the more disgusting it got. In January
2000, MTV would begin recording a pilot for the show "Dude, This Sucks!" This show is often
desc
ribed as an "inverted talent show". Rather than the talent already being picked, two team
captains would each pick volunteers to showcase their talents. The now-contestants would then have
45 seconds to perform their act, and if one of the three judges didn't like what they were seeing,
they would slam down their hammer and disqualify them. The audience would proceed to scream,
"Dude, This Sucks!" The team with the most points, assumingly from getting the least amount of
"Dude, This Sucks!"
-es would win a cash prize. If this seems like a strange show, especially for
a channel that's meant to be focused on music, that's because it is. But by this point many
of MTV's reality-based shows were proving very successful, so having something like this that
would inevitably lead to plenty of shock value not only made some sense for the channel
but likely for their ratings as well. But then, just on the second act, something
happened that would result in completely killing any chance t
he show had at being successful.
Before the act, two thirteen-year-old girls were told by the producers of the show to stand
near the stage. And out from the back came two performers only known as the "Shower Rangers".
Dressed as scouts and after briefly acting out some type of campfire scene, they suddenly
exposed their bare bottoms to the audience, And, assumingly after using some kind of
laxative backstage, they proceeded to... well, I can only describe it as explosive defecation.
The t
wo unsuspecting thirteen-year-olds faced the brunt of the ensuing filth. One recalled
of those first moments after it happened: "We were having a good time until the second
act of Dude, This Sucks went on. All of a sudden I was smelling something disgusting, and
I started to gag. I looked around at my friends. They were covered in something. As I looked
down at myself I realized that I was too." Even worse, assuming that some of
their peers had been in the audience, word got around of the i
ncident and they
suffered bullying for it among their peers. "Everyone knew about it, even some of the
teachers. Most of the kids were cracking jokes or wouldn't come near us because,
even though we washed off the feces, they said we smelled. I will never, ever
forget what a horrible experience this was." On April 5th, 2001, the parents of the girls would
file suit against MTV, claiming the studio had intentionally inflicted emotional distress,
negligence, and battery. Of the same day, Bri
an Garden, then-MTV's president, released
a public apology to the two girls and in the following days announced that the pilot
would be forever shelved. Interestingly, in his apology, he said that this incident was
unintended. But personally though, I have a hard time believing that, because not only were the
girls instructed to move to that specific spot, but the camera equipment reportedly already
had protective covers on themselves. So, surely the producers knew what was
coming, right?
But, moving on. The case was eventually settled out
of court. And as far as I can tell, the "Shower Rangers" never faced any legal
action, and even remain anonymous to this day. But for MTV, this apparently wasn't a disaster
enough. One year later MTV would try the idea again. Now titled as "Celebrity Dude, This
Sucks", this version assumingly had the same premise as the original, just now with
celebrities. But there's very little evidence this version even existed, in of itself
appearing
to become lost media. Therefore, I can only assume this version had very little
fanfare and simply fell off to the side. Considering this incident was so disgusting
and even worse inflicted on two non-consenting children, I think it's wise that "Dude, This
Sucks!" remains forever buried somewhere in MTV's vaults, never to see the light of day. #2 Bill Cosby 77 (Netflix)
Date Created: 2014 Yes, sadly, this is referring to that Bill Cosby. As most of you know, Bill Cosby
was once a beloved tel
evision comedian and actor in the 1980's, some of his most famous shows
including The Cosby Show and Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids. And as most of you probably know too,
he was convicted of sexual assault and allegedly drugged and raped dozens upon dozens of women
throughout his career, the first instance of this being recorded as early as the 1960's to as recent
as 2008. And it is this long series of allegations that would lead to this piece of lost media.
While these cases against Cosby w
ould be reported as early as the 1990's, Cosby's actions largely
flew under the radar until two decades later. What helped these allegations come into the
public conscience after all this time was, of all things, a stand-up performance by comedian
Hannibal Burress, where Burress encouraged his audience to look into Cosby's allegations after
one of his shows. This not only shined more light of them into the public eye but encouraged
even more women to come forward about their interactions wi
th Cosby. Around four years
later, after a contentious legal battle, Cosby was convicted of drugging and sexual assault.
Around the same time Cosby's actions came into the public sphere, Netflix was planning to release
a comedy special starring Cosby, simply called "Bill Cosby 77". The special was called this as
it was recorded on Cosby's 77th birthday, and with a planned release date of November 28th, 2014.
However, just ten days before its planned release date, television star Janice Dick
inson came out
with her own allegations against Cosby. Likely seeing what would have resulted in unwanted
negative media attention, Netflix elected to delay the special's release, simply stating:
"At this time we are postponing the launch of the new stand up comedy special Bill Cosby 77."
Netflix reportedly refused to further detail why this decision has been made, but personally, I
believe it's pretty obvious why. As the allegations against Cosby continued
to pour in, the release date of
Bill Cosby 77 remained unknown. Finally, 8 months later, Netflix
announced they would be putting the special on hold indefinitely. Netflix chief content officer
Ted Sarandos shortly added on the matter: "I don't think it's appropriate to release that."
Not much is known about the special itself. The only evidence of its existence is
a placeholder title card Netflix temporarily had on their service, as
well as this short and vague description "Bill Cosby invites you to share his birthday and
77 years of laughs, wisdom and insights about his childhood, first loves, and parenthood"
The only other evidence concerning Bill Cosby 77 would be this tweet from Cosby himself
thanking Netflix for the opportunity of taping the special, and finally some old articles
discussing the then-upcoming release. As of today, very little else is known about
the special. Reportedly, it was filmed at the San Francisco Jazz Center and ran for around 60
minutes. No part or even still from the feature h
as ever been released. And strangely, even
though it supposedly was filmed in front of a live audience, there is simply no information on
anything that was heard, seen, or done while Cosby was on stage. Nothing that I could find, anyway.
As a final tidbit, in December 2022, Cosby actually planned to go on a comedy tour around the
United States, despite being 85 by that point and having been released from prison just a year
after the fact. However, it appears the tour, planned for 2023, neve
r happened. Ideally,
it never will, and out of respect for the survivors of his alleged abuse, both Bill Cosby
and Bill Cosby 77 will be allowed to fade into obscurity of the sands of time. #3 Groupie (Marilyn Manson)
Date Created: ~1996 To begin our descent into the especially upsetting, we'll start with
one of the more popular pieces of lost media on this list. Brian Warner, more commonly known
as Marilyn Manson is often referred to as a "shock rocker". Being especially popular in the
19
90's, Manson's songs and performances would include provocative lyrics and acts, including
references to the 1999 Columbine Shootings, eating a Bible on stage, and being involved
in more controversies than I can ever hope to cover without tripling this video's runtime.
Keeping up to the title of being a "shock rocker", on a single night sometime between 1996 and 1998
Manson recorded what would become one of the most disturbing and controversial things to come out of
his career. And it was s
imply called "Groupie". What we know about "Groupie" primarily comes
from Manson himself briefly discussing the film with friend and comedian Andy Dick.
For this short film, Manson had hired once-girlfriend Pola Weiss to play the role of
a "groupie". The term groupie itself is often used to refer to a person that follows a band or
group wherever they may go. This is usually in the hopes that they can meet, become friends with,
or even... procreate with them. But anyways. Reportedly, Groupie
takes place at an actual
party Manson was hosting, with guests only being told by him beforehand, "A girl is gonna
show up and something's probably gonna go wrong, so just roll with it." The film starts with
Manson... well, orally pleasuring Jeordie White, or better known as "Twiggy" and then-guitarist
and bassist for Manson. Weiss then appears at the door, dressed to look much younger than she
reportedly was at the time. She offers Manson a gift, who not only accepts it but invites her
i
n. Throughout the rest of "Groupie", Manson then pressures Wiess into increasingly perverse and
disturbing acts. Only one of these is currently known; this is Wiess drinking the urine of Pogo,
the keyboard player for Manson at the time, from a wine glass, which Pogo eventually does
as well. Other details for "Groupie" are fuzzy, with Manson only briefly mentioning the film
involved a gun, bloodshed, Weiss being tied up, a fight, and other things Dick would only describe
as "...things that m
aybe we shouldn't discuss." Worse still, it's unclear exactly how
much both Wiess and the party guests were aware of what was going to happen. Some
sources report that both Weiss and the guests knew very little of what was to happen,
while others report that effectively the entire thing had been scripted. Manson
himself recalls guests being frightened because they couldn't tell if what they were
seeing happening to Wiess was real or not. Despite all of this, Manson wanted
to release this f
ilm to the public, reportedly to showcase one of his first ventures
into filmmaking. But upon seeing it, Tony Ciulla, Manson's manager at the time, implored
Manson not to release it, reportedly saying: "Please hide the masters. If anyone sees this
you'll go to jail and your career will be over." But it appears Manson did elect to keep the
masters, as he released a short portion of "Groupie" on his 1998 video album "Dead
To The World". In these brief 48 seconds, Manson looks and grimaces at
the camera, before
cutting to what appears to be Manson tormenting Wiess and forcing her to say "Jesus loves me for
the Bible tells me so.", before suddenly ending. In 2016, Manson repeatedly hinted that Groupie
would be released on his Antichrist Superstar 20th anniversary box on October of that year. But
eight years later this box set, as subsequently Groupie, have yet to ever be released.
Even today, there's still a lot of debate if Manson created Groupie to scratch some particular
itch
of his, or both Groupie and its story are simply PR stunts to add to his image as a "shock
rocker". But even still, and on a personal note, I find myself having a hard time ever justifying
why Groupie should be released. Even from the short descriptions and video, it appears that
not only is this just simply a disturbing thing to watch with little else redeeming qualifying,
but I would argue perpetuates the abuse in it by glorifying it for shock value. But that's simply
a matter of opinion
, and people may still have a morbid curiosity to watch it anyway. Regardless,
this film likely sits idly in some unknown location, its future remaining uncertain. #4 WWF Over The Edge (Owen Hart's Fall)
Date Created: 1999 Owen Hart was a pro-wrestler for the WWF, today known as the WWE. The World Wrestling
Federation was known for having professional wrestlers with eccentric personalities, exciting
stuns, and even storylines connected to the wrestlers. Hart was no exception, wrestling
und
er the name "Blue Blazer", a persona meant to be a strong but somewhat clumsy superhero.
On May 23rd, 1999, Hart was in the Kamper Arena in Kansas City, Missouri for a match against Charles
Wright, otherwise known as "The Godfather", for the WWF's "Over The Edge" program.
In keeping up with his persona, Hart planned for a notable entrance. From the rafters above
the arena, Hart was planning to be lowered down by a harness, which then would purposefully
give way a few feet from the arena flo
or. Hart would then land face-first for comedic effect,
and then assumingly stand up for the match. However, reportedly due to having tried to
adjust his costume, the harness had been triggered to release early. Hart proceeded to
fall 78 feet (or 24 meters) below. His chest landed on one of the top ropes, it then
violently flinging him into the ring. A medical team rushed onto the arena, but it
was simply too late. Hart quickly succumbed from internal bleeding, and it was publicly
announce
d just one hour later that Hart had died from his injuries. His last words were
reportedly "Look Out!" as he fell to his death. Surprisingly, and quite disturbingly, the WWF
not only elected to continue the event just 15 minutes after the incident, but continued anyway
even when Hart's death had been announced an hour later. Owen's wife, Martha Hart, had witnessed
the entire thing. According to her testimony, the ring still had traces of Owen's blood
and broken boards as the event went on.
"When Owen died, they scooped him out like a
piece of garbage and they paraded wrestlers out to wrestle in a ring that had Owen's
blood, where the boards were broken from Owen's fall and where the guys could feel
the dip in the ring from where he fell..." While Hart's death was witnessed by thousands
of live spectators, viewers of the broadcast would not see the tragedy. As it was occurring, a
pre-recorded interview with Hart was being played, before the camera faded back to
shocked announ
cers and a stunned audience who had just witnessed the fall.
But, many of the cameras were still recording the ring, and Owen's fall had indeed been caught
and recorded. According to then-WWF announcer Kevin Kelly, the tape is currently sitting in
WWE's archives, with the explicit instructions of "Never to destroy, view or duplicate". Currently,
the closest footage available is the Spanish commentary of the event, which includes the
sound Hart's body made on impact on the rope. Months follo
wing the incident, Hart's family
would sue WWF in a wrongful death lawsuit. In this lawsuit, Hart's family would allege
the WWF did not have a stunt coordinator present for the stunt, did not have adequate
people harnessing Owen, and even parts of the harness itself were only meant to be
used for yachts and not for human use. This would eventually result in an $18 million dollar
settlement. Martha Hart would use some of this settlement to set up The Owen Hart Foundation,
which is still act
ive today and helps provide scholarships and housing for families in need.
In 2014, the WWE would launch the WWE Network, which catalogued much of the organization's
content that it had produced during its lifespan. The service did indeed include the 1999 Over The
Edge Special but with any mention of the fall, including the aftermath and the announcement
of Hart's death, removed. This brief image commemorating Hart was also added before
the program. The WWE would also remove many mentions o
f the "Blue Blazer" character across
their programming, as well as commemorating him in both the 1999 video game "WWF Attitude"
and in the tribute special "Raw Is Owen". Today, Owen Hart is still remembered as
one of the best wrestlers to grace the WWF, and his legacy is still carried both in
the ring as well as outside it. Yet still, his fall remains one of the most gruesome live
events to ever happen. Nearly 25 years after the fact, footage of Owen's fall has yet to
surface. And out of re
spect for Martha Hart, Owen's siblings, and all that
had to witness such an event, I think that's for the best. #5 Christine Chubbuck's Live Suicide (WXLT)
Date Created: 1974 This next one I've saved for last, simply because this piece of lost media and the
story behind it struck an especially sad cord with me. And rather than glorify what became of
the incident we'll soon discuss, I'd rather focus on its story. Because not only is that story
incredibly interesting on its own, but I hope
can serve as a cautionary tale for those with
loved ones that may be showing similar signs. Christine Chubbuck, an American news reporter,
is widely regarded as the first person to commit suicide on live television. But more than that,
she was a real person. Growing up in Cleveland, Ohio and earning her degree in Broadcast
Journalism, she would eventually earn her own show on the small local channel,
WXLT, in Sarasota, Florida. In her show, called Suncoast Digest, she would feature small
b
usiness owners, local officials, and report happenings within the area. Though Suncoast Digest
was helping Chubbuck make a name for herself, it came with its struggles. Chubbuck reportedly
grew incredibly frustrated with the studio's constant and increasing pressure to report
what she considered "blood and guts" news, or news that focused on sensationalized violence
and crime. Likely with Suncoast Digest, and her reporting and life in general, Chubbuck wanted
to focus on more constructive a
venues. I believe this desire to better her community shined through
her volunteer work, where Chubbuck would entertain children with intellectual impairments at the
Sarasota Memorial Hospital, using homemade puppets that she would sometimes also use on her show.
Leading up to her death, Chubbuck would show signs of what would eventually happen that sadly were
not clear until it was too late. Seemingly going against her firm stance against "blood and guts"
news, Chubbuck suddenly requested
to do a report on suicide. Reportedly for this, she had met with
the sheriff of the Sarasota Police Department to discuss which weapon, bullet, and location to
fire would result in a successful attempt. Also, a week before the incident, she made a comment
to then-WXLT-editor Rob Smith about killing herself on live television. Believing this
just to be a bad attempt at dark humor, Smith quickly changed the subject, as Chubbuck
had made similar morbid comments before. And finally, just two da
ys before the incident,
Chubbuck, not usually known for enjoying social gatherings, threw a large party at her home.
Craig Sager, a reporter for WXLT at the time and an attendee of the party, recalls expressing
joy for what he thought was Chubbuck "coming out of her shell". But, in retrospect, she most likely
saw this party as simply a "going away" matter. The morning of July 14th appeared to be normal
for Chubbuck. She reportedly stopped by her mother's home for coffee and told her to leav
e her
poodle, "Perspicacity", out in the yard. Saying goodbye and hopping in her yellow Volkswagen she
called "The Lemon", she drove to the studio. She told her mom she'd be back by 10:45. But,
of course, she never would make it home. Besides reportedly being in a brighter mood
than usual, Chubbuck seemed fine. As per normal, she greeted her guest for the day, along with
his wife, into the studio. But suddenly, she announced she would need to prepare a script and
report it before today's e
pisode. She had never done this before, but her colleagues trusted
in her anyway. After preparing this script, she sat across her normal interviewing area,
also a departure from her usual show. And in a shopping bag under the desk, wedged between two of her
homemade puppets, laid a .38 caliber pistol. After covering three national news stories
she transitioned to a report of a shooting at a local restaurant, only for the video for the
story refused to play. According to Jean Reed, one of th
e camerawomen recording what in
seconds would become one of the most gruesome moments in television history, Chubbuck
simply smiled and said her last words: The following is widely believed to be the
real audio of the incident, including the shot itself. Again, if you are uncomfortable with this
material, please skip forward to 27:20 now. In a moment's instant, Chubbuck had shot herself
behind the right ear. She immediately slumped over the desk, her body quivering before
eventually fallin
g to the floor. At first, those at the studio simply believed she had pulled
a cruel stunt. Reed hastily cut the feed to black, and recalls crying out to Chubbuck for what she
thought had been a bad joke. Reed ran furiously to Chubbuck, only to discover blood beginning to seep
from Chubbuck and pool unto the desk. Dann Lunin, WXLT's chief engineer rushed over shortly after,
also believing it to has been a joke. Instead, he finds half of Chubbuck's face had
been shot off. Finally, Linford Ri
ckard, the formal operations manager of
WXLT, perhaps in a state of shock, recalls trying to scrap Chubbuck's remains off
the desk, his tears mixing in with the blood. In that paper Chubbuck had written just a
little before, not only had she written down the suicide itself as she planned, but how it was
to be reported on, which indeed was broadcasted as so: "The women host of a local television broadcast in Sarasota Florida this morning pulled out a gun and shot herself in the head while
the program was on the air." "Thirty-year-old Chris Chubbuck is in critical condition tonight" On July 15th, 1974, Chubbuck was pronounced dead
at Sarasota Memorial Hospital, the same hospital she volunteered at. Her ashes were spread
in the Gulf of Mexico three days later. So, the question we now have to ask is "Why?" The
only one that knows that answer for certain was Chubbuck herself, but we can assume it was
at least for a mixture of reasons. For one, even at a young age, Chubbuck strug
gled with
depressive symptoms. Former classmates and family recall she often struggled with being
in depressive moods and relating to others, which likely carried on into her adult life. It's
also commonly reported a major contributor to her suicide was the inability to find a meaningful
dating life, despite her efforts. Reportedly, Chubbuck sought George Peter Ryan, a fellow
coworker at WXLT, for romantic attraction. However, this love would go unrequited, as George
Peter Ryan was already
dating someone else at the time. Throughout the years, Chubbuck's
other attempts to find a partner would prove unsuccessful. Worse still, around the same time
of Chubbuck being rejected by George Peter Ryan, Andrea Kirby, one of Chubbuck's closest and
few friends, was moving away to Baltimore to continue advancing her broadcast career. This
likely made Chubbuck feel more alone than ever. And finally, while certainly not the sole reason
for what she did, Chubbuck reportedly had a large figh
t just the night before with news director
Mike Simmons of a story of hers being cut for one of a shooting. While of course just speculation,
this may have been the thing to tip her off. These reasons, combined with many others,
likely led to that fateful day. Suncoast Digest would continue for a few years later,
before finally being put off the air. And so, now we have to ask what became
of the footage. At Chubbuck's request, her report, and subsequent suicide, had indeed
been recorded. R
eportedly, she wanted her suicide to be well-seen, even having it broadcasted
internationally. But following Sarasota's Police's Investigation, both the master tape
and an additional copy were seized from WXLT, and later given to Chubbuck's surviving family.
Chubbuck's family was also granted an injunction against WXLT to prevent them from releasing it.
In the decades that followed, it was assumed that Chubbuck's family had destroyed the tapes, making
the footage completely gone. However, i
n February 2016, Greg Chubbuck, Christine's brother, stated
that "No one knows where..." the footage is, implying the family didn't destroy it after
all. And then, in June of the same year, it was revealed that WXLT's then-owner Robert Nelson had
somehow been able to keep a copy of the footage, confirming the tape still existed. Upon his death,
Nelson's wife then inherited the tape. But after being repeatedly requested for the footage,
she then passed it off to what has only been described
as a "very large firm" for reportedly
"safekeeping". Since then, it's assumed the tape sits there at that firm, tucked away somewhere in
its storage. In 2017, what was being passed off as real footage of the suicide surfaced, appearing
to show the incident in its entirety. However, Gordon Galbraith, a news reporter for WXLT and
a witness to the suicide themself, confirmed in this Facebook post that it indeed was fake.
And, we haven't gotten to the idea of someone recording it at home. It's
believed that
around 500 people were watching the broadcast that day. And while it would not become popular
for over a decade later, home recording was at least possible at the time, such as with the
U-TAPE. Though extremely unlikely, especially with something that was supposed to be a relatively
mundane broadcast on a small news station, there stood a chance of it being home recorded.
In 2021, YouTuber Ataliste had obtained the audio of the incident, getting it from someone only
described
as a "private collector". If this "private collector" was someone who just happened
to record it at home, or had somehow gotten the tape from someone related to the incident, is
currently unknown. But regardless, audio of two minutes leading to up the suicide, including her
final words and the shot itself, are available on YouTube. Whether the video itself will ever be
recovered will have to be seen, but for the sake of Chubbuck's family, I truly hope it isn't.
As a final note, I would like
to introduce one final question: "Why did she decide to do it
that day?" Again, that question will never be answered for sure, but I think I found at
least part of the answer. Chubbuck is often noted as seeing her family as one of her only
real close connections. She was reportedly very close to her Grandparents, who would watch each
of her broadcasts. Due to a doctor's appointment, Chubbuck's grandparents would not be able to see
the show that day. And personally, I think that's a large p
art of why she did it then. Because even
with such a violent and public display, she still didn't want those that she loved to see it.
But of course, that is simply my speculation. And so, we have reached the end of our journey
for this video, and only just the surface of the mountains of disturbing lost media similar
to what we have seen. Again, many find the purpose of lost media to be the journey of finding
what's been lost. And that maybe will make people find this lost media anyway. Bu
t considering
the extraneous circumstances of the pieces we have seen, I sincerely hope it doesn't.
Thank you for watching. Good night.
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The Owen Hart video is in a vault in the WWE archives and it says do not view, destroy, or duplicate. To view it you must have permission from Martha Hart and wwe higher ups
The fact Owen Hart's last words were warning to anyone who might potentially be below him is heartbreaking.
Vince McMahon is literally evil. Continued with the show after someone had just passed away and refused to take any kind of responsibility for what happened. Owen's brother, Bret Hart (who also worked for the WWE and was also wronged by Vince McMahon) said it, Vince is a man who would do anything for a dollar. Apparently even the commentators had no idea about Owen's condition until one of the producers told them the news that he had passed away, then they were given 10 seconds to process that before going back live and having to tell the viewers at home. The fans in the arena were not told what was going on either. Since then, Owen's name has been censored and he's never acknowledged by WWE, partly because his family doesn't want him to be associated with the company anymore and partly because WWE probably see this as something that damages their reputation. His family wanted Vince McMahon and WWE to accept that it was a case of negligence, to take responsibility, and for some reason they never did. Sorry if this is a long comment.
The Christine case is such a hard one to think about because her family has been very clear that they don't want the tape to be viewed by anyone, but the note that Christine left behind made it very clear that she did want people to see it. I don't really know what to make of it
This is the most accurate narrative I've watched about Christine. Many youtubers seem to embellish her story. They fail to recognize that she was a human with struggles. Instead they seem to spread her over the internet as an unstable freak of some sort. Chris had a kind heart and was someone who you could talk to about anything. Out of all the channels that thoughtlessly sensationalize suicide, you handled this difficult topic with respect. Thank you ❤
Remember, If you ever run an idea by Andy Dick, and he thinks it's a good idea. It's definitely not a good idea.
To this day Christine’s story makes me tear up so much. Silent suffering is so dangerous and please for the love of god reach out to those that care for you
While I hope the Owen Hart footage is never released, I can't deny I have a morbid curiosity to see it.
Fact check: Owen’s harness didn’t snap, the clip did, Martha Hart, Owen’s widow has the actually clip and has shown it, the cable used to lower him was thin, and it got underneath the clip partially opening it, causing it to bend outwards, leading to the fall, however the harness was Owen 100%, he had done similar descents as the Blue Blazer several times, using the proper harness, however he couldn’t unclip easily once on the ground, wasting the time given for his matches, and the opponent would have to run to him, and start attacking, allowing Owen to unhook without wasting air time, and so it wouldn’t be just him awkwardly fumbling with the thing for 3 minutes or however long it took, so Owen explicitly requested a different harness be used, so he could unhook faster, and they came back with that one, which is like they use for water stunts, and because unlike the other times, OTE didn’t have a stunt coordinator doing safety checks, and propelling him, the one he approved was the official one, so no safety was done on the one they brought to the arena that fateful night, but not just that, because that one had a keychain clip instead of 2 that actually locked, they thought to literally according to several people, use Duct Tape across his chest, as extra safety, and some think it was the tape that partially opened the clip and not the cable, but that’s mere speculation, but what isn’t speculation is up in the rafters, Owen said to the guy assigned to propel him, once he was geared up, and had the harness on, that something didn’t feel right, and unlike other times he wasn’t comfortable with the stunt, he should’ve protested, cuz it’s my guess, him feeling something was wrong, was the fact that a proper harness for that stunt, looks and probably feels like flack jackets do, heavy, thick, as Opposed to what is basically thicker nylon, not much thicker than a light sweatshirt is.
Imagine being so scared and sad that you committed suicide, only for everyone around you to think it was a joke.
It’s very normal for people who are about to kill themselves to appear “happy” like someone said a star shines it’s brightest when it’s about to go out
I couldn't imagine being in the audience for a show where someone died and the show continued on. To know that the people you are watching are literally fighting on a mat covered in the blood of their friend who had just died, no time to to get over the shock of what happened, they were just sent out to pretend like nothing happen. Something that is often overlooked is that the main event of that show was won by The Undertaker which is really bad taste when you consider that Owen had just fallen to his death in that ring. Personally, I think that they should have stopped the show, offered refunds and moved the rest of the show that had been booked to an episode of Raw Is War (the WWF's Monday night program at the time), not the next night as that was still too soon and they ended up doing a tribute to Owen that night, but maybe the following week. I don't think the fans would have been too upset about having to wait a couple of weeks to see those matches given the circumstances.
Imagine being Jeff Jarrett your best friend just fell from the ceiling and you are up next to Wrestle
personally I really don't think it's a great idea to share potential video stills of CP or brutal animal abuse. I understand giving examples of partially lost media, but some things are still harmful and overly distressing (and potentially illegal) to share, even if only individual frames.
You should make a part 2. This is honestly a really good video.
I've given lots of thought to the idea someone could have recorded video of Christine Chubbuck's suicide off the TV, that while theoretically possible is unlikely to have happened. VHS and Beta weren't introduced until the end of the decade, and while there was a consumer video format available around the time in question, that format was the Sony U-matic, which was expensive and ultimately considered a failure as a consumer format, though it did see uptake as a broadcast industry standard. For someone to have recorded video of the broadcast, it would have taken an incredibly specific person with the disposable income to afford the new cutting edge in technology, living in an incredibly specific area at an incredibly specific time when the Suncoast Digest show was airing with Chubbuck as host. There's a vanishingly small chance that that describes anyone who actually existed. Its much more feasible for audio to have been recorded, as there was ways to do that, as shown by the fact that all the missing Doctor Who serials from the 60s do exist in audio format thanks to enterprising nerds recording the audio off the TV. While that was the UK and this was Sarasota, FL, point still stands.
MTV: Yeah no, that was 100% on purpose. There is no chance it wasn't on purpose, you don't have people putting covers on cameras (a tedious process for film cameras) without it being intentional. I'm glad those girls got some kind of justice, even if it is only money. Cosby: Just a shoutout to Hanibal Burgus here. That man helped make a lot of women feel like their voices would be heard. Otherwise I just feel so disgusted that I ever found Bill Cosby funny. Manson: Honestly this seems like something he would do. He is an edgelord of the edgelords. He probably can't release the film because it requires a lot of permission. Which are not given. Everyone in the ""Movie"" needs to be asked and sign statements that they are okay with it. WWE/F: I never watched this thing as a kid. I couldn't imagine being there. I agree with another commenter that McMann is a terrible person. It really gets the heart when even as he was falling he called out to try to avoid someone getting hurt. He was a good man that doesn't deserve to be forgotten. Christine: She had been suffering from depression for a while before she ended herself. One thing to ALWAYS to look out for is if a depressed friend is suddenly extremely happy? It means that a lot of the times they have decided to hurt themselves. She honestly had a point though, that the news gets so much out of reporting grisly crimes and more.
Even if that incident didn't happen with "Dude this sucks" I'd feel like the show still wouldn't have been a success, because the show sounded very mean spirited. You'd only have less than a minute to show what your talent is, and if even one of the judges didn't like what they saw you'd still wind up being basically publicly and nationally humiliated Just the very fact the producers thought that segment was a good idea, really shows off enough of what the show could've been had it been green lit.
Christine’s televised fate was her last message to society of what the thirst for blood and violence cost her career-wise and made viewers question themselves about wanting to see gore 24/7 and not focus on community and growth. She wanted people to see it, but her loved ones , for obvious reasons, don’t want it televised. The conflict of interest is what makes her tragic story so prevalent in the lost media community