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Low-volume cars don't make sense | Know it All with Jason Cammisa | Ep. 10

Wonder why you can't get a diesel-powered, manual-transmission wagon? Or a Hellcat-powered minivan? Or even the Golf GTI's plaid cloth seats in the mechanically identical VW Jetta GLI? It's all because the cost of homologation is so high relative to the number of people who'd buy it that it doesn't make financial sense. It's uncool, but that's why we can't have nice things. It costs an obscene amount of money to get a car certified for sale in the U.S. — and if there isn't a huge market for a car, that means the per-car certification process can be prohibitively expensive. The Lotus Elise is a perfect example. Roughly 20 percent of the Elise's original MSRP covered the $50 million it cost to engineer and prepare the mid-engined sports car for sale in America. And the Elise, by the way, received side-impact and smart-airbag exemptions from the U.S. government. And it still cost $50 million to certify. Ouch. == Subscribe to our YouTube channel for new videos every day! http://bit.ly/HagertyYouTube Visit our website for daily automotive news, cars stories, reviews, and opinion: https://www.hagerty.com/media Stay up to date by signing up for our email newsletters here: https://www.hagerty.com/media/newsletter/ Follow us on social media: Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/Hagerty Instagram | https://instagram.com/Hagerty Twitter | https://twitter.com/Hagerty If you love cars, you belong with us. Hagerty Drivers Club is the world’s largest community for automotive enthusiasts. Members enjoy valuable automotive discounts, exclusive events and experiences, roadside service created specifically for collector vehicles, and a subscription to the bimonthly Hagerty Drivers Club magazine. Join Hagerty Drivers Club here: https://www.hagerty.com/drivers-club Like what you see? Watch our other series including: Redline Rebuild | Engine Time-lapse videos from start to finish http://bit.ly/RedlineRebuild Barn Find Hunter | Tom Cotter searches the country for abandoned cars http://bit.ly/BarnFIndHunter Chip Foose Draws a Car | Reimagining popular cars with new designs http://bit.ly/HagertyChipFoose Contact us: Suggest and feedback - tips@hagerty.com Press inquiries - press@hagerty.com Partnership requests - partnerships@hagerty.com

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2 years ago

- Hey, you're pretty cool. So am I, and that's why we're both frustrated that car companies refuse to sell us a cool car. You know, that subcompact diesel manual slick top wagon with rear wheel drive and heated cloth sports seats. Yes, no, there's a good reason this stuff doesn't exist. Even if that reason is deeply uncool. You would never believe the amount of money car companies spend to get stuff through crash and safety regulations. Look at that cute little Lotus behind me. It's adorable, bu
t Lotus spent something like $50 million, getting the Elise through American legislative requirements, and this is by the way on a car that was already engineered and passed all other worldwide regulations and crash test, and which received a US government exemption on side impact and smart airbag requirements. $50 million is a lot of money, especially for a car that's sold in such small numbers. It's not like that was a Toyota Camry, which would sell 2 million units over its life cycle, across
which all of the development costs can be spread. I know. Lotus sold just 6,325 Elises and Exiges here. Divide 50 million by 6,325, and you get $7,905 per car. That means 20% of the Elises's original $39,985 window sticker went to cover the costs of engineering it, just so it could be sold at US dealerships. Product planners literally fight over things that cost a couple of pennies per car. Things like replacing red turn signals with amber ones, which have been proven to actually save real human
lives and your car still ain't got them because they cost pennies. So $8,000 is an astronomical sum of money per car. The average powertrain only costs manufacturers something like 3,000. Of course, there's an easy way to avoid some of these costs. You engineer all this stuff in from the get go, design one car that meets all worldwide standards, but that would require car executives that weren't dropped on their heads. Look, this happens all the time. The Lotus's only real competitor, the Alfa
Romeo 4C, somehow wasn't designed to meet US crash and safety regulations. So when someone with actual brainwaves noticed. they had to re-engineer the entire car. At least they then had the money to fix those awful Euro headlights, which were put into production because Alfa ran out of money during the car's original development. Why? Because whoever was in charge clearly had been dropped on his hea, and without an overhead air airbag, which is probably the next requirement that'll cost $15 mill
ion to develop, but since every one of those 15 million cars sold in America will need an overhead airbag, the development will cost $1 per car. Unlike say the per car costs of developing a Hellcat powered, manual transmission rear drive minivan, because six of us want one, including me and I don't have the money to pay for it, and so they'd probably cost $10 million a piece, and this is why we can't have nice things, because the cool stuff only makes financial sense, if millions of people want
it and millions of people wanting something makes it decidedly uncool. Trust me, I know this from personal experience, why I'm so cool. You're not an idiot. You know how this stuff works, like, subscribe, comment, and don't forget to check out the Hagerty Drivers Club.

Comments

@T3amBull3t

I love that Jason just gets to the point and it makes sense. No wonder why we have no more cool cars

@b2bb

EVERYONE loves Jason. He's the only reason I am subbed.

@nealoberholster9439

one of the best auto presenters / historians / hosts / reviewers / journalist around....

@blackrat1228

The "I don't have enough money to pay for it" is a big part of it. Realistically the impractical sports cars that people in their 20s and 30s lust over are generally out of reach financially speaking. When they get older and have the money to actually buy that type of car they've got other responsibilities or have a bit harder time living with one every day and all of us younger people who snatch up those cars on the used market at a price we can afford aren't adding to the company's bottom line.

@jameshutchins3396

After working in corporate America for 40 years, I was always amazed at how much money was spent to save a few dollars.

@JohnnyAFG81

Dude is so right, I imagine gearheads are scolded like school children when they come up with ideas that’s not within the company line.

@jrchismorie

Jason is so underrated as an auto journalist

@foadrightnow5725

EVERYBODY wants you, Jason! At least according to Billy Squier.

@christopherlewis4490

Jason has been my favorite auto journalist for years. always a great sense of humor alongside usefull insight

@JuanLopez-kw9of

Now I know why my dad always said "that's why we can't have nice things" whenever we broke something around the house!

@Peter-rq4xn

As always, Jason is spot on! Hagerty is lucky to have you.

@Viper4ever05

short and to the point. Thank you for not boring us with 30-minute videos.

@FoodandCatsNepal

I already know about everything he is talking about but just love the guys energy and could watch him rant all day

@unclemarksdiyauto

You hit the nail on the head! Everything you said is so true!

@bkellzbkellz8553

Jason is the reason I'm here! I love the honesty!!! Just subscribed! Excited to be here! Keep up the great work God Bless!

@agentbla6797

A "diesel-powered, manual-transmission wagon" is - or at least used to be - one of the best selling cars in parts of Europe.

@olejacobstalesen6558

On point, as always. Didn't know Lotus burned that YUGE a pile of cash tho...

@maureliosrah3892

OMG! I’m also 1 of those 6 people that wants a Chrysler 300P (Pacifica) SRT Chuck Wagon Wide Body! Thanx Jason 😊

@edwarddejong8025

Some really good points in this video. We gotta come up with some kind of exemption rule for low volume cars, so that experiments can be done. Let people sign a waiver, and skip some airbags. We allow older cars to run around, why not let 1000 per year per manufacturer for experiments, and and we can have cool things! In the aeroplane biz, if you are under a certain very low weight it is considered experimental, and so some crazy stuff gets built. We gotta cut the red tape. I would love to get my hands on some of the cool japanese specialty vehicles that we never get to have!

@FREEDOM-FIGHTER-ONE

Jason, I LOVE YOOOUUU...!!! I can feel you Bro, and mostly all the time you are sooo right!! Felix (car collector and enthusiast, Germany)