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Marriage Matters, It’s A Family Affair, S01E012

Introduction In this week’s Marriage Matters, Andy B and Jo talk candidly about things that cause problems in our marriages, that may lead to unfaithfulness in one shape or another and things that lead to an affair. They ask whether we should affair proof our marriages, whether this possible and whether this beneficial. As always, Andy B steers the episode with scripture and explores the following: · Matthew 5:27-28 · 1 Corinthians 6:18 · 1 Corinthians 10:13 · Proverbs 6:24-29 Tips and Resources - John Piper, “Should Christians Watch ‘Game of Thrones’?” - https://www.desiringgod.org/interviews/should-christians-watch-game-of-thrones - Jessica Rey Ted Talk, “The evolution of the swim suit” - https://youtu.be/WJVHRJbgLz8 - Meditate on the scriptures above. The Take Away Andy B - Affairs don’t just happen, there are many steps to infidelity. Don’t seek to affair proof your marriage, spending time on what could go wrong, instead focus on the good – what is working in your marriage and how much you love your spouse. Jo - Be aware of the dangers – actions that can lead to an affair – the bible helps us stay on the right track! Andy and Jo www.berrybunch.family Support Online Patreon - www.patreon.com/BerryBunch PayPal.me – www.PayPal.Me/BerryBunchfamily

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[Music] well hello and welcome to another fantastic awesome episode if i say so myself humbly and awesomely of marriage matters hello i'm joe and i'm andy and this is marriage matters and where we discuss things of the marriage and today we're looking at it's a family affair is our title which is what well um we're looking at you know preventing i suppose affairs but thinking about how we manage ourselves amongst other people and and maybe not getting too close to things i know i remember that a
nalogy you told me about this lady who wanted to hire a chauffeur and the question she asked wasn't it is how near will you get to the edge of the road because the road was quite uh like a steep slope at the end how can you get how close can you get to the edge of the road and still be safe that's it and she chose the chauffeur who said they'd stay the furthest away from the edge and so i suppose in a way it's thinking about that in terms of marriage you know how close are we going to get to in
other relationships with them other people that might cause problems and uh how far do we need to go to make sure we're safe i suppose indeed but if you'd like to keep up to date with everything else that we're doing then you can like us on facebook you can subscribe to our youtube channel we're also now on twitter and tumblr because you know we like to spread out a little bit and the best thing you can do is sign up to are you ready for this berry bites with a why because why not barry bites bi
tes electrical digital stuff computer anyway it's a newsletter that's really awesome and it'll tell you what you might have missed yeah and to keep in touch with uh marriage matters yeah so we've had got a few episodes now and they seem to sort of link in from the previous one don't they sort of either we get our inspiration from the one before well they do because of course marriage matters matters because matters of the marriage matter because marriage matters oh i thought we'd miss that bit a
ren't you pleased we didn't i'm gonna try and keep us to time you know so if i cut andy off it's because i'm trying to keep to time um but yeah it's a family affair as a play on words because there's a song isn't there it's a family affair i'm not gonna sing it but thinking about the possibility of affairs or or getting a bit close to it and thinking about how we manage ourselves um what classes is an affair hmm yes what is an affair yes and is it actual stuff doings or is it other stuff yeah so
what scripture have we got andy okay we got some good scriptures they're not gentle and they're not even from james gentle james doesn't appear today no but should we start at the beginning of our little list yeah so matthew 5 27-28 hold hold onto your seats this is just the introduction 27-28 i've lost it already that's a great start um you have heard that it was said do not commit adultery but i tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his
heart if your right eye causes you to sin gouge it out and throw it away it is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell whoa we thought we'd go with a nice gentle you know easily misconstrued ones um should we just move on to the next one shall we yeah we'll we'll circle back opinion hey 1 corinthians 6 18 believe from sexual immorality all other sin ism sorry all other sins a man commits or outside his body but he who sins sexually sins again
st his own body do you not know that your body is a temple of the holy spirit who is in you and you received from god you are not your own you were brought to christ therefore honor you god with your body wow uh again very straight direct that one one corinthians were staying in uh but chapter 10 now verse 13. yes no temptation has ceased you except what is common to man and god is faithful he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear but when you are tempted he will also provide a wa
y out so that you can stand up under it wow that's comfortable and one more just because we thought it would be generous proverbs 6 24 to 29. okay are you sitting down for this um so verse 23 i'm going to go back a little tiny bit for the for these commands are a lamp this teaching is a light and the corrections of discipline are the way to life keeping you from the immoral woman from the smooth tongue of the wayward wife do not lust in your heart after her beauty or let her captivate you with h
er eyes but the prostitute reduces you to a loaf of bread and the adulteress preys upon your very life can a man scoop fire into his lap without his clothes being burned can a man walk on hot coals without his feet being scorched so is he who sleeps with another man's wife no one who touches her will go unpunished wow um i think we should take a break there i i concur so let's pray andy's going to come on and show us how to pray excellent what what have you got there it's my world's atlas okay s
o i can pray for the world okay you see praise good right okay are you going to show us how to do that then yeah yeah yeah so i've gone i've got me in the atlas and if you go to the letter a i'm going to start here so yeah and please god please bless our ben ra and art and all what did you like about the story oh bob you like bob we like stick you like the stick he likes sticks a lot i do okay well we'll try and make sure there's some more stories with sticks in today especially for you [Music]
so i found some scriptures for this episode around it's a family affair thinking about how we need to stay faithful and and where where we need to be careful and alert and the scriptures we've read out are quite direct and quite strong um in matthew 5 we it says if you look at a woman you've committed adultery um in corinthians we see that actual sexual sin is against your own body unlike other sins which is really interesting so it is slightly different it is isn't it it's not greater or lesser
but it's there's a difference yeah it has a different a profound effect and and there's a way of escape there's a way out of temptation which is i mean that happened that's helpful for all kinds of things that we get ourselves into but it includes um going into the sin of adultery um and also then proverbs is about this woman who comes along you know being all wonderful but the dangers are following into sexual immorality with this kind of woman so um you know we're not holding back anything to
day not holding back our punches um but andy so help us with this where are we going to go with all this let's just briefly overview each one as we go we'll go in the order we looked at we'll skip through it and then we'll we'll wibble on a little bit about something so that matthew five yeah um 27 to 28 this one really for me this touches on the issue of pornography and i would also lump pornography into gratuitous sex scenes on tv films i don't think there's any difference how do you define po
rnography well it's a depiction of a man and a woman having sex on a tv screen that's kind of how i would just define it in in terms of our own you know husband and wife setting um pornography does not help you in your sexual relationship we know that pornography rewires your brain chemically this is quite heavy-duty serious stuff but we tend to think of the hardcore pornography as that's pornography but you know what i think it's just as bad when you see a film and there's um a sex scene that's
going on and it's just not needed um pearl harbor is a classic one it's a film about pearl harbor okay it's about the war and there's this one scene and you've got the woman and this bloke and she's i mean we watched the film but she's kind of grunting and sweating and you don't need that and i actually got the film i actually edited the film we played it to our older boys without that scene you know what it didn't add anything or take anything away from the film i just cut it out and they enjo
yed the film because it's a good film that's just unnecessary and what i think we're seeing in a lot of films and tv particularly is we think pornography or that's that's terrible that's really really bad but why is it any less bad to see a naked woman on a tv screen than it is to see a couple having sex we've done we've covered this one before and i'll just briefly go here again you can catch it in a previous episode but john piper does a wonderful article on the game of thrones what is wrong w
ith seeing naked women on us on a screen and really really simply put it this way if you're seeing a car chase or a violent scene or someone's getting shot there's not really a car chase and there isn't really someone getting shot if you're seeing a naked woman you're seeing a naked woman that's someone's sister someone's mother someone's daughter it isn't fake it's not you know it is real and this is the issue that we have and the bible's really clear that when we do that and see that there isn
't something that doesn't go into our hearts and it's as clear as if you are looking at that then that's the problem i remember being on a beach one time and uh there was a woman getting changed quite a way away and she just dropped the bottom off of her clothes and put her skirt on now i saw the lot i wasn't looking um unfortunately she just dropped it all and got changed didn't care at all and that's not a sin okay let's not go down some legalistic stupidity route it's not a sin to see somethi
ng unless you're trying to see it but something that's been put in front of you that you can't avoid seeing well that's not a sin the issue is then what do you do with that where do you go from there so let's not get legalistic about oh it's naked woman therefore i've sinned okay let's not go down that road that's not going to help anybody no but it's that second look it's that what you do now i looked away and aside from the mail for gape how can you do that on a public beach with a thousand pe
ople watching you uh i looked away because i don't want to see that thanks very much um and i visited the kids who were kind of looking in that way and i'd got a sandcastle and you know so it's not an issue what you see it's an issue with what you go next however if you're deliberately switching on stuff that's got pictures of naked men and women on there um i would say that was an issue and if it's painting sufficient a picture that you can imagine them actually having sex on the screen obvious
ly it's just a similar issue and scripture is really clear the bible's so protective of it in a healthy way it's not just about physical sex with another person that isn't your husband or your wife it's about imagining it it's about seeing it looking for it specifically not just accidentally seeing it okay we're not going down there yeah you you make me think about though that that is interesting how you accidentally saw something and i think you know we do have a responsibility don't we i mean
i think the world says that you should be able to walk around naked as a woman but you know at the end of the day yeah i have had that and it's like well the principle of it sounds great but actually should we be um you know sort of not causing someone else to stumble i think it's a scripture isn't it we can circle back for the modesty thing yeah yeah we can do and and and the children have walked around town and had to avert their eyes and it's um you know yeah there's a difference isn't there
between something that you just see and something that you go looking for and like you say is a difference between how you respond but yeah i think we have a responsibility as well to not um try and sort of show things off but that's what's happening isn't it in films people are showing themselves off and i assume trying to arouse people and make people think certain things because it's not just there oh isn't that pretty isn't that lovely you know it's trying to do something um to go somewhere
where where we shouldn't go i suppose shouldn't we yeah jay parker from hot hurling humorous which is a great blog she has this great idea that hollywood like please hollywood can you not just cut to the sex scene it's about to happen the door closes and we fade to the next image we don't need to see anymore actually the films i've seen where that's not happened it's not actually adding to the film it's just glorifying sex and glorifying women and two people who shouldn't be having sex together
so you know we're not prudes we're not stupid and we're not legalistic either but um yeah are you going to go to the next one because we're just going to skip through these a little bit the one about against your own body isn't it it's interesting i find this fascinating because there's this big debate in christian church that all sins are same and some people say well there's a greater sin and there's there's different sins and there's sins of a mission and we can get in this really confused st
ate about well is this worse or that worse here's what the bible teaches ridiculously clearly it's wonderful and if you are lusting after a woman including your wife by the way then you are getting it wrong plain and simple you are getting something in between you and god that's not meant to be there lust is not healthy ever it leads to things that aren't appropriate but if you look at a woman lustfully it's as is if you had taken her to bed taken off her clothes and had sex with her that's how
the bible views it so what's going on in our heart and our mind god sees and it's just as serious to god but what i find interesting is sex is on a different level of sin and okay we're not going down that it's greater or lesser but it's more complicated in fact elsewhere in the scripture it talks about it being like a spider's web you don't just have a sin sexual sin incorporates so many things hence a family affair you can't have a husband and wife one of them has an affair and that's the end
of it it affects everybody in the family their parents their children their children's children their parents parents and their friend it's huge it's monumental it's not an isolated event and i think that's what this is really talking about yeah absolutely and i mean obviously it's not just um sexual sin i mean the bible's very clear on it but it's um you know we don't just suddenly go into that there's a journey isn't there you know and i suppose you start with one thing and then it moves to an
other a bit like drugs isn't it you get hooked onto a lower level drug and then this and that and the other and it moves on to something stronger and maybe so if you start looking at a woman or if you start looking at certain magazines then it might lead to pornography and then it might lead to an affair sort of thing and it's about the kind of relationships that we have whether it's in the workplace whether it's in church whether it's out and about you know are we making sure that we've got the
right boundaries isn't it are we putting ourselves in a position where we might end up down that road i suppose isn't it vice president mike pence when trump was president um very famously uh made a point that he wouldn't be with a woman on his own for dinner and people said oh you know you're in dark ages or what you're doing you're an idiot you know this is stupid and he said no i'm married to my wife i don't want ever anything to get in between my relationship with myself and my wife but he
wouldn't have you know dinners with with women on their own which lots of people would do it's quite a helpful way of eating and having a meeting but he said i won't do that because it's quite an intimate thing having food because no one can hear the conversation and that's not right i got a lot of respect for him that's really good one corinthians 10 13 we're rattling through these yeah this temptation thing isn't that yeah no temptation has seized you except what is common to man so don't thin
k you're on your own and god is faithful he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear now we can choose to ignore that but god gives us a get out which is kind of encouraging so when we've done something stupid um maybe we've opened a door not having an affair but we've started to consider we've we've given a personal number to a female to a female work calling us water to a male work colleague and all of a sudden we're opening a door that really we shouldn't open and i think that's w
here there's always that i shouldn't be doing this this doesn't feel right but here's the thing if you're not sure if what you're doing is right as a husband i can go to joe and say should i give this woman this number help me get things naive do you want to tell the story about that time that student needed some help i was even going to give a student a lift weren't you no i was going to go and meet for a coffee because she was coming back from our 18-plus group and yeah you were telling me wha
t you mean and i said yeah alarm bells started to go off and i said i don't think this is a good idea i think you're putting yourself in a difficult position and i wonder what her intentions are and you hadn't seen it at all and in fairness to you you were quite innocent but that's sometimes how these things happen isn't it married man um so we ran an 18-plus group one of the students that we looked after she came back to where we were and said oh i'm in the area can i just pop in and she was ri
nging around everybody and i was just the one person that happened to be in and i said oh yeah i'll come and have a coffee and i just mentioned it to joan passings like i don't think you should do that on your own why are you meeting up with a strange girl so i think joe was right but i hadn't clocked it and this is the thing if you're having um openness in your marriage in a healthy way yeah it means i'm sharing with joe what i'm doing therefore she can say i'm not sure that's healthy and what
matters more the coffee with student or my relationship with my wife yeah and the dangers of pretty woman um this covers so many things okay let's just flick through this one then proverbs chapter six um [Music] i've lost it now there we go keeping you from the immoral woman from the smooth tongue of the wayward wife for what is keeping us well it's the commands it's god's word if we're not sure how we're supposed to live then actually we're we go back to the bible it's the plum line um it's int
eresting it's talking about the smooth tongue of the wayward wife next to an immoral woman um the bible is an accident that's obviously for a reason and uh i think i think we need to be careful that we're not using who we are to get what we want in marriage in an unrighteous way we use the word righteous a lot in our family is this a righteous decision this is a righteous thing it is god's best the righteousness sort of comes out a lot in how we think and look at life and what decisions we make
we're going to replace the car a few years back and is this a righteous thing or should we righteously keep the car what's right thing for us what's righteous in god's eyes and smooth talk of the wayward wife i mean you know this is kind of suggestive of a wife who's gone off on one and there's quite a few warnings in proverbs sorry if you don't like this but this is true uh proverb warns men quite a lot against women who can come and entice into them it doesn't warm women in the same way agains
t men there's a reason for that you can figure that out on your own um and if you don't like it take her with god not me but then are we going into um do not lust in your heart after her beauty so this is immoral woman a wayward wife could be the same kind of person and wife can be immoral um do not let her captivate with your heart for the prostitute reduces you to a loaf of bread so what happens with a prostitute well you pay the money and you have sex and it's a business in you know transacti
on only it's not because the bible's very clear from that it doesn't simply have just a physical thing there's a spiritual connection to that as well the adulteress preys upon your very life it's happened before i mean what happened to joseph in the scriptures let's just take a nice simple bible example joseph second choice world living in egypt serving potiphar yes got the right name and then his wife wants to have sex with him he says no runs away so what does his wife the wife do she says alw
ays rape me accuses him of doing nefarious deeds and that and produces evidence well she's clearly an immoral woman for one thing and joseph had no choice he was a slave he was having to work there but what did he do the only thing he could do is run away he did the right thing uh it didn't work out from at that moment but it did later um but all we can do is shine a light on the truth and let god do the rest yeah so i'm trying to keep us to time so wrap up this meaty bit um i wanted to touch on
monastery really quickly before we move on because this is the thing it's been talked about a lot there's a lot i mean i remember joe coming back i've just been told in a meeting that i should be able to be naked and it shouldn't be a problem in a meeting room and i'm thinking this person needs psychological help because if you're naked in the meeting room it's now indecency and you should be arrested by the police for doing that so um yeah modest is a really it gets people's hackles up but her
e's what i think about um this is context is really important um lee evans the comedian made a big joke about why is it we're okay with a bloke walking down the shops with his speedos on we wouldn't do it on the high street in birmingham why is it okay in spain well it's slightly different context there on holiday so context does play a part in this um but we're going to um link to jessica ray who is somebody who designed a ranger swim man she's got a brilliant ted talk ted yeah and it's all abo
ut the bikini and what does the bikini do what does he do psychologically and mentally to men what effect does it have on them and she pulls no punches it's a really good video so we'll let her speak for herself on that one but she ended up creating a line of swimwear because she just couldn't find stuff that she felt was suitable and we've met lots of mums over the years who said i can't buy my daughter this is a sexualized short skirt it's a crop top things like this is too sexualized and it's
not right and i think that's where we're at with modesty either you think well i should be able to do what i want where what i want and new men you sort it out and often it is you know the woman should cover up and the man is his problem and it's a woman's problem it's just this mess of of nonsense but here's the thing men you need to watch what your eyes are doing women don't cause men to stumble that's in the scriptures but you know men you can cause a woman to stumble uh and women can be int
erested just as much through sight it isn't exclusively you know a man that is visual and a woman isn't that's not true by the way that's a lie it may be partially true maybe true for you but it's not true for everybody so i think we have to be careful with the modesty debate in particular that we're not getting too head up on it um there is an issue of modesty and it is important to be covered in an appropriate way because here's the thing here's the reason why the bible talks about modesty it
doesn't really go on to what you're doing outside of the church this is talking about a worship service if you're going to a worship service and you are drawing attention to yourself because of what you're wearing then you've got it wrong it's that simple you need to change your dress not a dress i mean what you're wearing because we go to worship god we go to edify other people so if we're in a church context and people are looking at us because of what we're wearing it could be a t-shirt that'
s wildly offensive and inappropriate as much as it could be a woman who's wearing far too little clothing um i used to wear t-shirts that i probably shouldn't have done in church and they used to draw the wrong attention if we're doing that then people can't worship god now they're looking at us and i think the modest debate we need to get away from what women are doing to cause men to stumble which is a issue in a single issue and get back to what's the point of going to church what's the point
of worshiping what are we supposed to do are we dawning ourselves men and women in order to get attention drawn upon us or why are we doing what we do in order to take the people to look at god yeah that's my thought on moderating really brief let's take a look broken dreams and hope is a new book my first very very first book i've ever written and it's all based out of the fact that in life we have hardships and we have difficulties we have things that will break us physically emotionally ment
ally financially there are these things that can come along that can cause us immense hurt and pain maybe we've made a mistake we've done something wrong we have to face the consequences of that we get broken maybe we've just been caught up in a tragic accident and we've been accidentally involved in something that was nothing to do with us it breaks us broken dreams and hope is a book that i've written specifically because i've been through some difficult times i've been broken but despite bein
g broken there was hope and that hope has a name broken dreams and hope is all about the fact that no matter how broken we may have been there is still hope and that hope has a name and that name is jesus christ [Music] so we're back for tips and resources yeah so we've already um given you some in in the meaty part which was john piper who talks about um you know if you have naked person you you're actually that's real it's not like violence which is made up in films so we'll leave you that lin
k to just ponder over and think about that the modesty stuff that andy was talking about from jessica ray again there's a ted talk it's really worth checking that out so we'll leave that link for you to think about that and how that fits in with our with us and within within marriages really um because all of this links in doesn't it to how um we um are in in life and and that affects our spouse if we're kind of wearing certain things and that's you know and our other halves aren't happy with th
at it's going to affect us and we need to talk about that and then um meditate on the scriptures scriptures are quite hard hitting but i think they really give us boundaries and help us to stay within the right line coming back to that analogy at the start of how close do you get to the edge when you're driving um these scriptures will help us stay right on track i think yeah we mentioned it last week but it feels relevant to mention it once more but it's that drop challenge um it doesn't actual
ly affect us because we share mobile phones and social media accounts and all sorts but you know if you if if at any point you're on your phone would you be happy for you to drop your phone in front of your other half and then to look at what you're doing if you're not then you need to deal with that this isn't about invasion and privacy this is about being intimate in a marriage and intimate in marriage means the way that you talk and the way that you discuss finances and you know you should ha
ve openness and the more open your marriage is the better it's going to be but we um we'll come back into the conclusion about fair proofing your marriage which we mentioned before should you be a proofing of marriage but uh we'll come on to that but i just wanted to touch on a resource here which is from one corinthians 6 verse 18 which says this flee from sexual immorality all of the sins a man commits are outside his body he who sins sexually sins against his own body do you not know that you
r body is a temple of the holy spirit who is in you whom you receive from god you are not your own you are bought at a price therefore honor your god with your body if you are struggling with pornography then you need to get some help for that um it is a chemical addiction it's not necessarily as simple as i won't do it anymore then it doesn't work that way but it will affect uh your intimacy in your marriage and there's some really heartbreaking stories of um married couples where pornography h
as become a thing and they just they can't be physically intimate anymore because chemically the have been altered so get some help for that seriously it's not necessarily easy to do that go and speak to someone in your church or there's loads of websites that can help you but i was thinking this one corinthians 6 verse 18 through 20 just go and read that meditate on that is god asking you to flee from something is god asking you to do something don't ignore those warnings take a break [Music] p
hysical training is good but training for godliness is much better promising benefits in this life and in the life to come the point of this scripture is that while physical training is good it is beneficial for us it keeps us fit keeps us healthy it's not nearly as beneficial as spiritual training and all that makes up training for godliness such as reading our bibles praying and going to church and that is the point of endurance is is to show how we can maintain self-discipline and how we can
endure through our training for godliness with that in mind go check it out [Music] so here we are for our last little segment of engi uh not endurance that was the advert for endurance for marriage matters yeah uh the meaty bit um no the takeaway oh yes we did the meeting but this is the takeaway it's the end so uh one of the things we talked about um you might have seen the little advert we had you might have seen that um we wanted to look at a fair proofing of marriage is this something you d
o and we just wanted to cover a few little things with this that we've we've kind of read about and seen and some things are on my mind and i think one of them is this don't fall into the trap of thinking that you can somehow stop an affair by having enough sex because if you're in that mindset then you've already missed the point that affairs aren't just about a physical transaction if you like trying to be you know pg a little bit um it's more than that men and women both crave an emotional sp
iritual and physical connection so don't think that you can affair proof your marriage just because you were really hard having lots of sex because that's not how it works it's a really naive view sadly it's not true um yes physical intimacy is important but you can't do enough to stop sin happening in someone else's life you can't prevent them from sinning because we're going to sin we all do it so trying to do that yeah it's good to have a good healthy intimate physical intimate relationship b
ut don't think you can stop affairs by having enough sex and the other one that goes off the back of that which perhaps it's more the kind of american purity thing but if if as a wife you um you know say no to sex then you can cause an affair if an affair happens because you didn't have sex one time then you've got much deeper issues to resolve in your marriage so don't don't fall into that trap but we wanted to look at can you unfair proof of your marriage should you affair prove your marriage
and i have a really simple thought on this one which is this if you want to find a counterfeit money when i was working in retail shops they would give you a fake bit of money so you could see it but they would say get the real ones and touch them and the more you touch the real paper notes as it was back then the plastic polymer then you can tell the difference and as soon as you touch a fake one you can feel it they said don't study the fake one study the real ones and it was a really great ex
ample of why we should focus on the authentic if we are spending our time trying to prevent something from happening and we are creating opportunities for that very thing to happen because what we should be doing is getting on with everything else and otherwise we can run around in circles trying to stop something it's like a dam that's got holes in it at some point it's going to break and you can stick your finger only in so many holes actually it's much better to focus on what you should be do
ing about developing your marriage having time with one another being open and honest with one another and if you're investing in your marriage that is the greatest defense to not having an affair and investing means spending time with each other being honest having access to each other's phones not trying to have secrets away from each other i'm not trying to compartmentalize well that's my work life and my home life and my married life and you know so i think that's his idea that somehow you c
an have fair proof your marriage and i think you can but i think you do it by not trying to prevent an affair i think what you do is you invest in the positive run then try to deny the negative which we've covered on a lot of episodes haven't we andy we've um we've looked at date night haven't we and we've um had different ways of of spending time together and looking after each other loving one another and all that kind of stuff so that that's it isn't it love at the center isn't it one corinth
ians 13 is at the heart isn't it don't try and keep a lack of love out bring love in yeah that's kind of my point yeah what's your take away andy my takeaway is i think you need a cup of tea because this is quite a hard hitting episode i mean this is uh kind of normal length but i mean we've we've scratched barely a few scriptures about this um modesty is one that we could do 10 episodes on and we'd upset everybody i'm sure um check out that video we talked about in tips and resources at least u
nderstand what wearing a bikini does to a man it's relevant and it's quite interesting it's quite shocking when you first hear what it does psychologically and scientifically proven um but it's good to know we need the truth um don't deny the truth so yeah my takeaway um is that i should have asked you first my takeaway is i think it's really difficult to have an affair can i say that i'm allowed to say that i think it's really difficult to have an affair and here's why i say that because it sou
nds a bit like what i know i say weird and wacky stuff sometimes but i think it's really hard to have an affair because it doesn't ever just happen i remember something you used to talk about and people would say well i don't know how to stop drinking and they go out to the pub and they get drunk it's like well how do i not have an accident and i fight well why are you in the pub if going to pub means you're going to drink then don't go to the pub that's cutting your right hand off that's cuttin
g your eye out and gouging it out not literally um but it's don't put yourself in a place where something can happen so in the same way i don't think affairs just happen i don't think it's all whoops a daisy i think that's a really naive foolish mentality affairs happen because we choose them and if it's not a choice then it's not unfair i'm not going down that road um but yeah i don't think they just happened but the proverbs are full of warnings to men about women who will come along with a sm
ooth tongue ripping with honey is how those properties put it and they want to try and taste you away from scripture so what's our defense to anybody who comes away you sure have said that well you you go back to scripture yeah i think i'm just reminded about the dangers really of all this stuff isn't it and just how it's it's not something to be laughed off it's not funny it's not oh dear it's it's very serious and the scriptures are very clear and there to help us which is really reassuring an
d helpful funny that yeah so this has been a rather heavy episode we'll try and do some more light next week yeah let's do that i'm not sure what we would think of a slightly lighter topic than affairs and sex outside of marriage yeah um but yeah i hope you've enjoyed this episode this has been uh i need another cup of tea yeah thanks for joining us my name is joe yeah i'm andy and we'll be back now we will be back sorry about that we'll be back again bye for now [Music] there are loads of ways
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