foreign to start let me introduce myself my name is Liga I'm currently a first-year medical student in Denver University and also a member of Amazon here I am speaking as the moderator of the first episode of mid 2023 with amsa Singapore before we jump into the main action list I would like to briefly explain about this outstanding event uh so as I have mentioned earlier meat is the abbreviation of medical education exclusive talk had by amsterdament of part of Amsterdam Indonesia which in this
event we will exclusively talk about living the lives of a medical student abroad and their journey to becoming a doctor with our special guest today Kang zilan from amsa Singapore hi zillion hi thank you for having me hi is that okay maybe I call you Zealand because it's kind of yeah that's great yeah that sounds great how do you feel being here with us today yeah I'm really excited thanks for having me here today awesome honestly I'm so happy for having the opportunity to talk with you today a
nd I believe all of our viewers are so excited to have this explicit discussion with us so without any further Ado let's get started our special yesterday Zealand is a first-year medical student a National University of Singapore as the associate prize president of Singapore prayer journal without being said there is no one remember that our guest today is super special so that was a little information about our guest background now moving on to the next session which is the sharing session with
our guests so Zealand are you ready yeah I'm ready okay before we jump to the questions I believe our viewers want to get to know you further so can you please introduce yourselves that Richard name Hobbies or some kind of fun facts about you all right um hi my name is uh zulun you can call me uh Kang that's my last name I'm a first year medical student in Singapore National University of Singapore and um yeah my first year which means that I'm currently my second semester and my year will end
in April after my final year exam um currently I'm still learning the ropes I think many of you guys are also learning um the ropes in medical school and yeah it was it was a tough journey to get here into medical school but um I'm glad I I'm in medical school now yeah as for my hobbies um because it's really easy to get out of touch with um your daily activities and hobbies with so much studying right so I like to do a little bit of sports now and then I play a lot of basketball in my free time
and uh yeah I like to go to the gym I like to draw as well just to remind myself that there are things you know to do other than studying if not I'll just be studying every single day yeah so that's that's me thanks for having me um this is very exciting uh talk show today thank you thank you foreign becoming a medical student in National University of Singapore um a little story based on my experience I need to take class to get into medical school like a terrorist attacks about math biology p
hysics chemistry and something like that what about you how is the process to become a medical student in National University of Singapore um all right so to get into the University of National University of Singapore um for the faculty of medicine we look at um they look at three different types of examinations that all qualifications in order to get in you must have a diploma from a a diploma from a Polytechnic uh you must be either dead or a Cambridge GCE a level uh uh candidate or a level eq
uivalent so one of the equivalents would be uh the ID which is the international Bachelorette and uh with either through one of these options you will be able to enter medical school and for me I took a levels which is the the Cambridge examination and yeah I had to do many different types of um types of subjects I had to do biology chemistry um math English I had to do my own mother tongue as well which is Mandarin so I'm Chinese Mandarin Chinese uh and yeah we had to do something called Projec
t work as well which is um in your class you'll have to do uh come up with something interesting and then you have to write a thesis and these are all the different different subjects that we have and will be good graded accordingly and will be given grades Like A and B yeah and uh with the final grade then you will be using that to apply to any course in University and for me I chose medicine yeah so that is my well it sounds pretty challenging and it's um during your preparation to get into me
dical school we need to deal with many things we might face some kind of problem so I want to ask you what are the struggles you experience in those processes so and how did you overcome them um so as far as struggles um definitely one of the struggles is that medicine is very Infamous for being very difficult to enter because there's a lot of people who want to enter medicine in Singapore and a lot of very good students here as well everybody has an A in their grade um so we have a bunch of eli
te students so I guess the difficult thing is to stand out is that the how do you beat your competition you know how do you get that extra Edge and I think with that um you have to look at a lot of your extracurricular activities uh and as for me I served a national service so in Singapore you have to serve national service uh if you are a boy when you are when you hit the age of 18 you have to spend two years and I was a medic in my national service so I used uh my medic background and that rea
lly helped me get a little bit of a Competitive Edge for my application yeah so that was uh for me it was definitely challenging uh but I was fortunate enough to get it in to the course in my first try but I know some people who have to try uh two times three times in order to get into the course yeah cool that's a good point actually I also struggled with many things during the preparation to get into medical school it's quite the same with you and one thing that keeps me going on until today i
s my motivation my mom never told me something like you have to be a doctor but however my mom used to say whatever you want to be in the future I just want you to be and useful person for others I want you to help people as much as you can with your future job at that time I realized that she indirectly said that I hope you become a doctor but that's actually not a problem the journey to become a doctor is pretty challenging and interesting at the same time and the output after becoming an abdu
ctor is amazing so that's um yeah so this is like a question that they will ask for your interviewer to get into Medical School uh they'd like to ask you why you want to come into medicine and uh for me it's because um yeah my father is a doctor as well so growing up um he inspired me you know that he helped a lot of people every single day uh going to work for for him was um not a daily chore because he would get to help a lot of people every single day that would thank him and he would then us
e his love for medicine and Science and then he'll inspire me by teaching me biology and because of that since young since Primary School I've always taken Biology and I've always liked biology and slowly transitioned into medical sciences and I really want to become a doctor so that I can help the people in this country and uh to give back to my community that I grew up in yeah so that's my motivation to become a doctor I guess yeah that was awesome and we still have a lot of great experience w
aiting for us especially since both of us are first-year medical students and after we successfully get into University Medical School of course we also need to buy I think our next conversation surveying a medical student so be honest my life after becoming a medical student has extra which means life as a senior high school student and life as a medical student is totally different we agree that getting into medical struggle medical school was a struggle however in my opinion hey sorry can you
repeat the question um I think there was a connection issue yeah my questions to a medical student is there any cultural shock you experience um yeah that was definitely a culture shock because um you would think that if you were good in high school and you can study you would be able to study in medicine but medicine is so different you know um in high school the teachers tell you that you know this rule is this rule a is a b is B and uh you follow the rules and there's always a right answer b
ut in medicine uh despite there being the right answer there's a lot of answers to a certain question and because of that you have to really always problem solve that it's not so straightforward and because of that I think I've learned to um think on my feet I've learned to uh incorporate medical sciences and try to use them to problem solve and uh in school we have a lot of classes called case-based learning so in school we have case-based learning and that means that we'll be given a case um a
patient and a a story and uh we would have to then try to figure out what's wrong with the patient given uh the medical background the the test results and everything and I think that has really helped us understand what being a doctor is and that was definitely a culture shock because I thought it was you know really quite simple right uh a problem was not so simple uh I think that was like the challenge and the culture shock that I got coming into medical school yeah I agree with that beside
the culture shop what are the biggest differences in terms of Lifestyle Dairy routine um so I think um for a lot of people around me they have changed their routine a lot because school for them is so overwhelming and they will have to then uh reduce the amount of time they spend with their family and friends and they don't get to have as much time to do what they want uh but as for me I try to make school as fun as it can be so I try to make as many friends as I can and try to spend time in sch
ool having fun so that I can enjoy learning uh in school and I still keep in touch with my hobbies like basketball when I come out of school so that I don't lose touch with them and spend as much time with family and friends so I try my best to get that balance although it's a very different kind of life and schooling uh schooling life I'll try to get my my best to try to balance uh a kind of a school life uh relationship yeah which I have yeah cool I like the idea of balancing between the medic
al student and also if you're dealing with that school beside the culture shock life lifestyle changes I think subjects in medical school are quite different um and the medical subject is not it is a subject so what is your habit of studying to keep up with the lesson um so to keep up with the lesson I think for me the Habit is um during lecture I don't like to take any notes I like to listen and uh if there's anything that's important I try to maybe take take it down but I try not to look at my
laptop too much and I just try to listen and absorb and then after the lecture I'll try to kind of look through the slides again or anything that I've written down um but I try not to write down so much you know because sometimes when you're writing down you're not listening and the the lecture might have said something that you might forget so it's important to just keep listening and um after that looks through the slides and if you don't understand anything try to clarify with the teacher an
d try to always keep your head above water because it's very easy to to be very overwhelmed there's so many facts and and knowledge coming your way and you just have to kind of uh keep your head afloat and I think the most important thing is to not be discouraged because sometimes you have so much and it's so easy to be discouraged and you feel like giving up but I think it's important to just know that uh as long as you keep trying it will stick and one day you would be second nature to you you
know so that's what I try to do I try to be consistent and try to do a little bit every day and I'll try not to feel too overwhelmed yeah awesome that's a cool matter by the way what is your favorite subject uh my favorite subject is uh Anatomy so yeah oh yeah cool no wonder you like subject your habitating is very impressive I used to say people actually trying my best every single day since we talk about studying and subjects I think it's perfect timing for us to talk about our third topic it
's about medical education system and National University of Singapore um a little story in University we have four types of classes first is the theoretical class given by the lecturers the second we have Skillets where we practice by doing assimilation as a doctor such as Anonymous Etc chart is a tutorial which is a focus group discussion up in a specific medical scenario and lastly is a laboratory class by that we are curious how is the method of learning process in your college um okay so fo
r our school uh it's a five-year program to get a mbbs undergraduate degree the first two years will be pre-clinical years and then the last three years are clinical years which means that uh we don't really get to see patients in the first two weeks it's mostly just books and it's just studying uh the next three years of our school will be uh we'll be able to go to the hospitals and go through rotations so we'll go through family medicine and general surgery every single type of posting that yo
u can think of but as of now I'm still a first year really because student I'm still a pre-clinical here and in pre-clinical years you get year one and year two in year one you learn normal Anatomy normal physiology but in the second year you learn the abnormal stuff so pathology and abnormal physiology and you also learn um some drugs so some pharmacology and microbiology in second year um as of now in first year mostly lectures and tutorials so relatively boring stuff but for anatomy we get to
go to Anatomy Hall so there's um uh cadavers right so for Australian Academy and we also have histology lab so I'm not a very big fan of histology but uh in the histology lab you get to look at microscopes and just uh get to get a look and a sense of how things might be and you can Orient it yourself and it's pretty useful I guess um for lectures and tutorials my favorite would be a tutorial that's a different kind of tutorial it's called a case-based learning tutorial um which means that we wi
ll be getting a story kind of like a story or a story that even has a video they have a video and a whole skip that they play out of a man for example with abdominal pain right and then the man would be acting out that the man has that no pain and uh the whole story is that you get to try to figure out what's wrong with the person and uh it's very interesting because um there's a bit of Storytelling so there's a bit more life to the Medical Science um other than that something that's quite inter
esting that um with the given access to in first year is something called PVP which is a patient based program we get to go to hospitals uh in the first year but we don't really do anything we just kind of uh get to see how a hospital is run and it's very important that we know the administrative side of things in the hospital and the flow and everything so that when we become doctors we're not just doctors you know we understand what nurses do what occupational therapists do what physical thera
pists do it's very important to know what everybody does which is quite important as well we also have something that is non-medical so this would be ethics we have classes that have teachers have taught us ethics and how to act as a person how do you talk and everything and something that's new this is relatively it's what LPE which is a longitudinal patient experience so basically we have a bunch of people from medicine from Dentistry from pharmacy from nursing and we're all Healthcare student
s will be attached to our patient and this is a real patient he or she a chronic condition or some kind of condition and stays at home so what we get to do is we get to do that we get to talk to them then and try to get their point of view of how it is to be a chronic patient so that we can kind of understand their lives better their routines better what do they eat or what do they do every day uh like to go to the hospital if they go to the hospital what do they do What complaints in life and w
hatsoever and this helps us better understand them as individuals other than just patients you know so that we can better understand that every patient has personality has a life it's not just a patient with this disease or this pathology and that helps to give context to to every case that we see and I think this is something that's quite interesting uh it's a ethic a non-medical a program that they're starting in it has helped us understand patient life better yeah sorry for the talk it was qu
ick okay cool I think you have uh differences in medical education system uh in Denver University for our prayer Clinic we need to go for like four until three years three until four years and the clinical is about like two years and apart from the medical subject is there any non-medical subject that you have to take and my University will also take a normal subject for example I took religion class in the first semester we have various kinds of religion classes according to students religion w
hat about your University so you're talking about religion classes no uh like a non-medical subject in our University non-medical subject is the religion path oh I see um for us non-medical subject yeah we do have a non-medical subject and it's called help or just help you know it's Health ethics um something something I'm not really very sure but it's just ethics like we just call it ethics and um we get to learn how the healthcare system is kind of put in place and uh how we as doctors talk to
people as people uh doctors and patients are both people right so I think a lot of times we kind of have this doctor-patient relationship when it's very up down so what this this class is trying to teach us is basically try to how to respect people as people and try to understand their thought process and uh give give us difficult situations for example uh situations where you have two the same family conflicting or you have a patient that's um not really leading of the process and whatsoever s
o what do you do as a doctor to try to help them understand that and how to communicate your thoughts better and that is a class that we have to kind of help us understand these kind of moral situations that help to make decisions better in the future as well so that's kind of a non-medical class that we have it's an ethics class here okay cool by the way it's talking about subjects guess what become a person in our faculty have free clinical and practitioner so how about your pets foreign clini
cal and what mine is theoretical clinical and practitional tests about exams yeah okay so um for the first year for pre-clinical years uh what we have is just regular tests which means that we finish it in one day and it's two separate settings the first sitting would be for the McQ so multiple options and then the second setting will be for the essay questions so we get to type and this will be all done on our laptops um we won't have any access to anything because our laptops have a program th
at shuts them down so we can only answer the questions uh we're not allowed to search on Google or whatsoever and um that's only for the first year but subsequently when you have postings when you have um clinical attachments then you have clinical exams uh learning about physical examinations and everything but as of now I do not uh participate in that yet because we haven't been taught yet so as of now it's just mcqs and essays and mcqs but afterwards we get something that's uh nearing the end
of our first year we have something called an OSP ospe an objective structured practical exam so it's basically similar they'll give us um Anatomy right and then we will have to try to identify what the structure is in the in anatomy or what the slide is in histology yeah so that's OSP uh for osky wise um when patient interactions we haven't really done that yet I think that's more in the second year and the third year um so yeah that's for us our exams are mostly McQ and Essay and we have them
four times in one year yeah four times in one year yeah okay sounds French talk a lot especially about medical school and medical students for now I think we can relax a little bit in four topic we are going to explore more about National University of Singapore as a country and it's culture so you are from Singapore or you are a student that is studying abroad um no I'm from Singapore I'm a Singaporean so I didn't choose to study abroad because um I personally wanted to stay in Singapore I was
I was you know uh I lived in my entire life I know the people here very well and I think uh I think if you can try to imagine yourself trying to go overseas it's also pretty scary you have to learn their cultures from scratch you know nothing about the country uh you only know the country from the internet from Friends uh then going over and learning is a completely new thing and for me medical school is already such a big thing so for me I have to juggle Medical School living a new life I have
to do other things for myself also like um learning how to how to uh manage my finances very well and cook and and laundry and everything and my own accommodation is very uh it was also pretty overwhelming for me to have this idea although that might be something that's very interesting maybe I might do that in the future but because medical school is so long I don't wish to stay out of my country for so long I do enjoy the comfort of my own home and in my own bedroom right now and uh to be aro
und with my family and yeah Singapore is somewhere somewhere that's very um familiar I'm very familiar with and that's why I didn't choose to go abroad I decided to stay here and the fees are cheaper as well because I'm Singaporean okay so somewhere and Native Singaporean what are your favorite place to go in your country well um there's a lot of people in Singapore this is a very small country uh you can take a car from east to west in half an hour it's a very very small country but yet there's
a lot of things to do in this country it's a very big city and uh I guess I like to visit the shopping malls and all the places a lot of people like to go like um in the city area like when you type Singapore and Google you'll see the city area it's very nice there's a lot of things to do there's a lot of nightlife as well um but for me I personally prefer the quieter places in Singapore so I like to go to the parks we have a lot of parks in Singapore uh they're scattered all over the country b
ut most of them are interconnected which is quite interesting you can go from one park to another and you would have traveled a huge portion of the country by food and you can cycle as well you can run it's very very interesting uh yeah so I like to go to Parks I like to enjoy myself go to cafes and drink coffee spend time with friends the more quiet things are more enjoyable because this country is so so loud and so bustling so many people so doing the quieter things are nicer for me yeah that
sounds nice what about the culture I think Indonesia and Singapore might have quite different in culture what is your favorite culture in Singapore um I think my favorite culture in Singapore I think a lot of the people in Singapore would agree as well it's the food so the food in Singapore is very very nice and that's because we have a lot of um we're very racially harmonious in Singapore there's a lot of races we have a lot of Chinese a lot of Indian people we have a lot of Malay people so we
get uh Cuisines from all over the world and and we've kind of made it our own Heritage and culture to have this food that has been passed on for many generations and a lot of immigrants have come over to Singapore and set up shop so we have a lot of types of food here and we just like to call it one big Singaporean food but it's actually a lot of type of food we have a lot of Indonesian food as well a lot of Indonesian food thai food and the food here is it's crazy it's so much food and I think
it's a food is a universal language all over the world you know you can use food to just strike up a conversation in Singapore I think a lot of people are very fond of the food and I have a lot of foreign friends that come over as well and what they you remember the most about Singapore is the food and I really like the food a lot as well yeah so I think food might be my favorite culture in Singapore and maybe one day I have a chance to go that if you go to your country so you ask me a question
I didn't hear that very well foreign oh yeah uh my question is what would you recommend if we go to your country oh I see uh if you come to our country there's a lot of places to go a lot of places every corner you turn is a new place um it's very it's very bustling I think I think it's very nice to visit um the shopping malls here it's it's really very nice it's quite breathtaking um especially the city area is very very nice but I would definitely definitely recommend anybody coming to Singapo
re to go to our Hawker centers so we have a very big Hawker culture in Singapore and a hawker is a very nice open sitting area it's an open sitting area with a lot of stalls and it's um the stores are there's so many installs it's more like a hundred stalls it's all in one area there's more than 100 stalls and there's three times the number of tables and so you just go there find a table sit down and you can choose from any of the stores that you want there's so many and they're all different cu
ltures and I think that's what Singapore is about there's so many different types of people coming down just to eat and you get to learn the culture just by from the food and a lot of them are family run so they're all very authentic and very very uh traditional food and I think going to a hawker Center is definitely the place that I would recommend everyone to go if they come down to Singapore one day next week we have reached the last topic of our discussion today we tell uh something special
it's about answer why did you just answer for your organization well so um in the National University of Singapore in medical school you have a lot of options you can join a lot of things here we have a lot of um co-curricular activities so we have a lot of things called lsips lcip sorry so it's just a local community involvement program and so you do a lot of things locally and we get to volunteer in a lot of um places here so for example I've been to a hospice to help in uh to kind of talk to
people who are in the end of life care and it's quite interesting you get to know more about Singapore and Healthcare but because of that um I've grew I've grown up here I've known a lot of things about Singapore but I want to know more about the things overseas and because of that I decided to join amsa because then I can uh you know two of my favorite things medicine and travel put together and that's amsa and I get to uh try to learn more about the cultures overseas and the medical culture as
well which is quite interesting it's something that I'm very foreign about especially in the first year I only know the Healthcare in Singapore I don't know the healthcare everywhere else and definitely that's something that I want to know more about so I joined the amsa because uh it gave me many good opportunities to connect with the medical students overseas um I wanted to go overseas myself which I will be this coming year hopefully and um I also planned to join amsa because I wanted to pla
n events I wanted to plan conferences because I wanted to be familiar with the process of planning a conference maybe next time I might be interested in doing something like that and I think as a first year medical student this is good exposure into the Healthcare Community of other countries and the administrative side of things which is a quite a rare opportunity once you go out into the Working World and you realize that these kind of opportunities are so important than when you're a student
and uh it was definitely something that I really wanted to do so because of that uh yeah I have not gone overseas yet under arms are I do plan to this year uh but I've aided in the coordination of forming the delegate team for EA and SC 2023 so that's the East Asian medical students conference 2023. so I was the one that set up the delegate team and I sent them over so I hope to be part of the delegate team this coming year and I was also um sorry I am currently in uh administrative team trying
to figure out the logistics so behind the upcoming uh amsc for for 2024 we plan to have a bidding and uh I think Singapore want to do it so the next coming conference will be in Singapore so yeah that's the reason why I want to join amsa is just to be part of everything and it's very very interesting to see all these medical students from all over the world yeah and I'm wondering what was your I'm starting at the moment with amsa can you describe it well I think uh well this is not Unforgettable
I guess but it's uh quite a quite an interesting experience which was um I think the experience was to when I had to coordinate the delegate team so it was something that was very foreign to me I've never done something like this it's very very um it's very administrative so I had to get uh documents and and there are passports and everything and it was very overwhelming because I've never touched anybody's passport other than my own so I had to try to figure out all these administrative things
and I was quite um I was quite lost in some moments but because the community in Amsterdam is so good I got help very easily and uh I remembered uh being very lost in trying to figure out how to fill a form and within minutes I had uh one of my AmStar members helped me out and that was very very nice it reminded me why why I'm in this Amazon community you know that I get help I get a lot of help and uh it made me realize that I want to stay in this community more and try to help other people as
well and and uh that's one of the moments that I remember when I'm sorry I was very heartwarming and very wholesome helps you throughout your journey as a medical student happy birthday um okay so I think as a medical student um different from other courses in medical as a medical student you really have to learn how to talk to people uh you have to learn how to try to put the phrase in your head and try to get it out uh you have to be very good at communicating what you want them to know and t
here are a lot of opportunities like that but I think for me in amsa one of the opportunities is because you get to see all these students from overseas and all these International students and there's a feeling of satisfaction when you're able to um convey your message clearly and try to present yourself in front of all these different people that you've never met before and uh it's a very challenging and very satisfying thing to be able to bond all these International medical students together
so for example in conferences and you get to know their cultures better you get to talk to them better and it really helps you as a person because next time you'll be next time as a working doctor you'll be talking to all these different different people and uh if you are always just in medical school talking to the people you know you will never be learning how to talk to other people and uh because of that I think amsa gives this very golden opportunity of learning how to work think with like
-minded individuals and to talk to other people as well I think amsa gives a lot of opportunity for that and I'm very grateful so for example this is one of the examples I'm talking about without amsa I wouldn't be here I wouldn't be able to share all these so I think that's why amsa is very useful for me as a medical student yeah that was really amazing so I want to ask you how is the process to become the associated vice president of Anza Singapore um you're talking about the process right of
how I got into Amsterdam yeah so um amsa was quite an open organization uh I think when all of the first year medical students matriculated into University and we got our first few lectures coming in all the different organizations wanted to publicize so join us join us a lot of different groups and one of the groups was amsa and amsa reached out to every single one of us um there was this Open Session this Open Session anyone who's interested joined the Open Session they'll share more about ams
a they'll share more about the different positions that are open uh there's there were many many positions you could be a national officer for public health for many many things and um they would go through every job scope as well so that was the Open session so I was part of that open session me and a a couple more people like slightly under 100 people so um quite a lot of people came came down and everybody tried to understand how amsa is run and I was one of them and one of the positions that
was available was this position um and I understood that this position was uh acted means that I meant that I act as a kind of a proxy for the regional chairperson and that means that I would learn very closely to someone who's very involved in everything and so I wanted this position and and I'm glad I'm here now uh to get to do so many uh amazing opportunities like this so my application process wasn't very difficult I just had to apply say the position I wanted so for me it was this position
associate vice president uh and I would get an interview by the person that would be selecting me into the committee and for me that was the original chairperson and uh he chose me out of a couple of people I guess and that's how I ended up here oh that sounds okay um according to you what are the benefits you get since you are becoming the associate vice president of unsusting Opera General so you're asking what other benefits is it yeah yeah so um the benefits is that I get to be very closed
uh uh very very involved in the the action of a lot of things so for example the I work very closely to the original chairperson right and the original chairperson is tasked tasked in making this conference and the first person he calls up to help is the people that are directly under him and that would be me and uh we have another associate uh vice president so there will be two of us and so because I'm working so closely with the regional chairperson I get to learn uh many of his habits and hi
s workflow and that's the thing I think I learned the most is how to coordinate and how to plan and uh for me that's a very valuable lesson because uh you get to learn from someone who has a lot of experience and I'm very my position is very close to his so I get to work very closely with him if I were to choose any other position I guess I would also learn but I wouldn't learn as closely to him and I think uh that's why I treasure this position and those are the benefits that I have so you said
that if your favorite subject is anatomy which is um in medical school because I think it's been really hard it's uh it's that I think if you have any kind of fix for me to get an easier to studying about Anatomy so uh sorry what are you asking why everyone foreign okay can you hear my voice is everybody clear yeah okay here you know okay so my question is since I'm really bad at management so how do you how do you learn Anatomy is that is that a question yeah oh I see I see okay um yeah so um
Anatomy is a lot of like memorization right and I think medical school a lot of memorization uh but I think something that's very useful and I'm not sure if your university has this but for our University we have um they they give us a program called complete Anatomy I'm not sure if you've heard of this program called complete anatomy And basically every single one of us has access to this program and it's just a 3D model to the entire human body and uh you get to add layers of blood vessels add
layers of muscles and add layers of a bones and whatsoever and then you get to click on the bone they'll tell you the name of the bone and you get the move the model around and uh that's something that we have here in school and it's very useful because then it helps us visualize uh it helps us visualize what we're learning so that in the textbooks they're all in 2D and they're all drawings so it's very very difficult so something in 3D is a bit more it's easier for us and I think that's someth
ing that helped me a lot uh was watching a lot of YouTube videos as well [Music] okay um [Music] office facilities in it sorry I couldn't hear you can you repeat okay is everybody clear my voice yep that was good okay uh if I'm not mistaken you said that you are not a fan of the histology isn't it yep that's right why I mean I rather like it's a lady rather than what if you don't really like histology yeah so I don't like um histology because uh well first off um I much prefer Anatomy to histolo
gy because you can see Anatomy you know so you can compare like for example um uh it's right in front of you if you want to look there's a ligament here and uh there's a tendon here and and it's very easy to just see and you can compare and but in histology they're all on a microscopic level so it's very difficult for you to try to appreciate everything is so abstract everything just looks like a painting and um in histology everything looks the same it's it's very similar everything looks very
very similar uh you must be able to look very closely and even if you look closely and you get the the answer right I don't get much much satisfaction for example if I can if I can identify that oh this is from the pancreas but I don't really feel very much satisfied because yeah I can't really see it in real life you know I need a microscope but in anatomy you can you can see you can see it uh in the in the cadaver uh it makes sense and it makes sense that blood vessels travel This way everythi
ng makes a lot of sense uh so for me Anatomy just makes more sense and I can appreciate it anymore and uh for me I really want to do surgery in the future so for me because I like Anatomy uh something I want to do with surgery but histology is not very interesting to me so that's why I don't really like histology as they were quite different in other people at all so I wanted to ask you what do you know about Indonesia what do I know about sorry oh what do I know about Indonesia oh I've never be
en to Indonesia uh it's although we're very nearby I've never been to Indonesia uh I do want to come Indonesia one day though but I know very little about Indonesia but we do have a lot of Indonesian food so I know Indonesian food um like uh and uh and uh yeah so that's why I eat here but other than that um in terms of your education I'm not really very sure about your education so here to enter university the the range is around uh 19 20 years old is that the same is it also 19 years old yeah s
o for here's around 19 years old uh so it's I guess it's the same amount of years for the education right uh I know for like the US it's a lot shorter sometimes and uh for us it's 19 years old um other than that yeah I'm not really sure I've never been to Indonesia I'm so sorry so I know I don't know much about Indonesia it would be great if you can share okay uh I've never been to Singapore as well so maybe I have my oh my baby [Music] I can go to Singapore you can go to Indonesia I would like
to explain and I'm introducing you about a lot of organic things in English especially in juneberg I think okay okay I think that will be our last discussion today what an amazing Insight from our speaker soon thank you so much for attending and willing to share the perspective of being a medical student in National University of Singapore if you don't mind maybe you want to say a message or a statement to our viewers so thank you so much for having me here it was really very all of us enjoy it
and uh enjoyed this perspective onto a medical student overseas see the differences in being a medical student in Indonesia and the medical student overseas it's very different and yeah I hope to come to Indonesia one day and see the culture and to learn more from you guys thank you so much for having me thank you so much it's really real repetition with you today I hope maybe one day we can meet basically [Music] don't forget to always catch up awesome contents and YouTube channel by subscribe
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