Most Raw & Unfiltered Political Podcast With Nitin Gadkari | Get Work Done Attitude | TRS हिंदी 203

I am a minister, I will live in my ego. I am like this, I am like that, I expect protocol. It doesn't do anything. Respect should not be demanded, it should be commanded. So this is in my nature. Some people tell me that I should not say this way. But it is there. We will work for the all-round development of this country. We will remove the country's poverty, starvation, and unemployment. And we have rights. The constitution has given. Are fundamental rights, freedom of speech There are all kin

ds of rights. Whenever there are political conversations, it becomes very much you versus me. BJP versus Congress. Maybe it is because of the media. If media does this, it will not withstand the test of time. You know what they do? What did he say? They record him. They go to your house. He said this, what do you want to say? They work to induce fights. And as it happens, street dogs bark at each other, when that picture forms, they clap. In politics, for political benefit, for vote bank politic

s, people are misled. Friends, many BJP politicians have come on our podcast. Some Congress and AAP politicians have also come. Many political commentators have come. Right-wing, left-wing, pro-Modi, anti-Modi. But everyone has given a lot of respect to this person. I am an engineering grad myself, not a journalism grad. Many people have said a lot about our political podcast. And we have heard your feedback. I hope you will like today's political conversation with Nitin Gadkari sir. I tried to

make this conversation as raw as possible. I hope you will enjoy it. I hope you will learn. I hope you'll know more about the future of our country through this podcast. Whatever we are doing on The Ranveer Show, for the future of India, enjoy it. Learn and grow with Nitin Gadkari, sir in today's TRS episode. Jai Hind! 🎶[Music]🎶 🎶[Music]🎶 🎶[Music]🎶 Welcome to The Ranveer Show, Nitin Gadkari, sir. Thank you. -Namaskar. -You came on TRS. -Namaskar Sir! -Namaskar, namaskar. It feels great to

sit in front of you. Ask me why? Why? What is the reason? Because you're all over the Internet. There are such politicians who are very popular among youths. You are one of them. So thank you, sir. -You are giving us time. -Thank you, thank you, thank you. Do you know this that you are famous on the internet? I don't know. Because my life has been such that I never worry about what is happening, nor do I pay attention. I think every day about what I have to do. I keep talking about doing it. 'Ka

rmanye Vadhikaraste -Ma Phaleshu Kadachana.' -I'm not that big either. But this became a common thinking in my life. What do I have to do every day? What is the priority? What is the agenda? What is the thing that is stranded? Which thing has to be done? And after doing it, what are its consequences, I should have studied that, but I don't pay much attention to that. Basically, you don't think about the results. No, no. You focus on the process. Yes, this can be my negative point. That I don't t

hink about the results. I don't know how good are the results of the work that I have done. But I stay worried about the work I have to do. And how to complete that work, by putting in all the strength for it, how to get it done? So, when I was in Mumbai, Bal Thackeray ji wrote me a small slogan on acrylic. Such was written in it, I like people who can get the things done. I have retained that thing since then. And today it is the same. What is in front, what needs to be done, the targets at han

d, by hook or crook, how do I accomplish it? That's the worry in my mind. Sometimes, what I do, by that I get recognition, respect, support. But maybe I have a shortcoming. Its valuation, its auditing, its testing, doesn't fit into my personality. You are a doer. Meaning, the results-- You are an opening batsman. No, I used to play cricket. You used to play cricket? What did you do in cricket? I was a good cricketer in school. But my habit was bad. I used to try to hit every ball. Later that bec

ame my nature. I used to play with a cross bat. Used to play anything. But, hit from the word go. -This was the only interest. -Just wanted to hit the ball. You know, in cricket, there was a cricketer -named Krishnamachari Srikkanth. -Yes, of course. He was my favorite. Whenever we meet now, I remember it. Like Sandeep Patil, in our time. There was Farooq Engineer. He used to play with a cross bat. I recently met him in London. He is quite old now. So, instead of technical cricket, employ force,

hit fours and sixes. Sehwag style. Yes, you may remember, there was player called Salim Durani, was a cricketer. There used to be Central zone versus Vidarbh matches. He used to play from Rajasthan. Hanumant Singh and he. I used to go to watch the match. Salim Durani used to score just 40-50 runs. But from wherever people called, he used to hit a sixer there. So, we were his favorites. That bro, come and hit. Do you watch cricket now? I don't get time now. You don't get time? Yes, I don't get t

ime. But I am a big fan of cricket. When commentary used to happen on radio, I used to listen to it all day. Since the advent of TV, watching cricket reduced. Many people of my age think that after 40 years of age they should retire. But your age, we would term you as middle-aged, maybe your most high-intensity work phase is going on, correct? Until now. The way life is progressing, intensity is increasing more. See, there was a song in a Hindi movie. 'Mein To Chala Jidhar Chale Rasta, Mujhe Kya

Pata Kahan Meri Manzjil, Mein To Chala Jidhar Chale Rasta.' Actually, this is how my life story is. But there is one thing in it. My commitment, my conviction towards the poor, towards the society, my work is my serious agenda. I provide free heart surgery. I work in water conservation. I celebrate cultural events. In our Marathi, an MP is called Khasdar. I do the Khasdar Sanskrutik Mahotsav for 17 days, 40-50,000 people come every day. Then I do the Krida Mahotsav. 60,000 players participate.

So, tasks that I have decide, which makes me happy, I keep doing it. Every night after returning at 7-8 p.m., what to eat? You will be surprised. If I have anything to worry about, it's just one thing, at 11-12:00 in the night, I go to sleep. So I have made a chart and given it to my chef as well. Different types of menus are written in it. He says what to do tomorrow morning? So all I worry and study and plan about is what to eat tomorrow. The love with which you talk about food comes from your

inner child. When two people talk to each other especially on podcast, this is not an interview, sir. I'm not taking your interview. We have a passion for eating. I used to jokingly say, Lokmanya Tilak used to say, How many years a person has lived in his life, how much and what kind of work he has done is important. So used to say jokingly that how many years he lived is not important, what all he ate is important. Eat, drink, be happy, due to this basic nature, my friends still come to Nagpur

at night, come at 10-11 pm, the day before yesterday we went to eat ice cream, went to eat pav bhaji the day before that. Orange sweets. Orange sweets, everything. Everyday something new-- What we do one day doesn't get repeated the next day. You are a very happy person, sir. Yes, I am absolutely happy. I'm not worried about anyone. I don't care if someone says good, I don't care if someone says bad. I live my life on my own terms. By entering into politics has happiness increased or decreased?

The one who doesn't think, -his happiness increases. -Means? The one who worries about the future, The one who is worried about winning and fighting elections, he thinks. We don't have any worries. I believe that I will win the elections. I keep working. Don't worry about the future. To live happily in the present based on the experiences of the past, keep working, and look after your own self. I am not a Sadhu or a Sanyasi. I also have my family, my home, my daughter, everyone's worries. But a

fter satisfying this worry a little, for the poor of the society, the exploited, the suffering, the helpless, the disabled, those who undergo heart and cancer surgery, I do a lot of service. On 27th of May, on my birthday, a van was launched for eye camp. Yesterday, I launched another van. They checked the eyes of 23,000 people. Did 950 cataract operations free. 3,000 people got glasses. And about 150 people got hearing aids, the digital ones. So, such kind of work-- I fitted 500 people with foo

t prosthesis. I have done more than 40,000 heart surgeries. I feel happy doing all this. Why are you doing all this? Why are you in politics? See why am I in politics, I was political by nature. -From the beginning? -Yes. -From childhood? -I was a student. I was a student leader. I had a connection with RSS. Since then, I have been against Emergency, in Jayaprakash Ji's protest. I suffered a loss due to that. I couldn't go to engineering college. And in 11th, I got 52% marks. Because I did not f

ocus on education that year and my science score was 49.26%. So I was disqualified for engineering admission. Because you need above 50%. I got 6 deletes. Was about to get the 7th. Even now, I did not go for a doctor, because I was disqualified for the engineering admission. Then in Jayaprakash Ji's movement, there used to be cyclostyle machine. I used to take out handouts from it and reach, this is to be done today. While doing it, from 75 to 77 Emergency, Then the Janta Party election happened

. I got into politics with that. Then 2 years later, my family members from the Sangh thought and told me to join politics. In 1980, when Bharatiya Janata Party was established, I became a worker of the Bharatiya Janta Party. Since then, I am working. I will tell you one thing. The definition of politics should be redefined. My definition is different. Politics is an instrument of socio-economic reform. Politics doesn't mean power, not power politics. To be an MLA, MP, or to keep an ambition, to

become a minister, I don't like that. For the past 45 years I have been in big positions. Nobody comes to welcome me. Nobody comes to garland me. Nobody comes to take me at the airport. I am in Z-Plus. So 40-50 policemen come. I consider George Fernandes as my icon. I believe in politics, social cause, national cause, and development cause. Politics is an instrument of socio-economic reform. So social work, I work in water conservation, I work in organic farming, I work in bio-fuel, I work in h

andloom-handicrafts. I have my own passion. I don't even worry. I don't worry about reporters who writes and what is not written. I'm not concerned about that. I have a commitment towards people, but not concern. One who votes, be blessed; the one who doesn't, be blessed. What I said earlier that you are an internet icon. People know all these things about you, do you know why? Whatever infrastructure development has taken place in the last 9 years, everyone who looks at the infrastructure, than

ks two people, Modi ji and you. Everyone knows this. That whatever infrastructure development we are seeing is in some way your ministry and there is a word of our generation, hustle, do you know hustle? Meaning hard work, hard work, we call continuous hard work hustle. It's in my mind. You are from Mumbai so let me tell you. I had 5 crores. I was a minister. And Mumbai-Pune Express Highway, Worli-Bandra Sea-Link project, 55 flyovers were built by me. Now I am in a favorable position. The situat

ion was adverse then. Then I had brought BOT. There was no money, money had to be brought from the market. So that was my test. All those projects were successfully implemented and because of that I got the name. I would like to say one more thing, sir. Sorry, I am just talking openly. Because I am feeling a little comfortable with you. Congress politicians also came, AAP politicians also came on the show, they also praised you. Atishi ji had come and Milind Deora had come. Everyone praises you.

Political commentators have come from all sides. Pro-Modi commentators, anti-Modi commentators, everyone praises you. When I started researching for this podcast, I also talked to anti-Modi people. They are also praising you. But everyone wants to ask you this question, how did you adopt the term of a performing politician? Everyone seeing at you says, yes, he has got results. So, exactly break down the result. How did you get it? Look, people who are in any field, like you are in this professi

on. So people plan. Then they implement. Then they think. Then do this, do that. My entire life is undisciplined. Is unorganized. It is in my natural nature, I have a dining table for 12 people in my house. They are my mother's values whoever comes, sits during meal time and breakfast time. I believe that human relationship is the biggest strength of politics, business, and everything. So I maintain good relations with people. He might be drowning because of some man, even if I get defamed, I wi

ll still hold his hand. No worries, not afraid of anyone. The second thing which is important, The values that I got were in the Sangh, in the Vidyarthi Parishad, and in Mumbai we had Vasantrao Bhagwat in the BJP organization. Lived in Wadala only, in Chancal Smruti. So he used to say that remember one thing, If there is a legal work, then even if he is our opposition, his work should be done. And a wrong act, even if he is our own, should not be done. So whoever comes to my place, I receive the

m well, I listen, and any task that is possibly doable try to do it immediately. Whatever that can't be done, I tell them that it can't done. And this nature of mine is natural. There is no calculated politician in this. Natural nature and sometimes I also say that this work is out of my reach, it will not happen. Secondly, people say that in politics one has to lie, talk smoothly, I will do it, I will see. I don't say that. I say whether it happens or not. Yes or no. So my natural nature that h

as developed, behind which there is neither any management nor any objective. I behave with everyone in a natural way. Because of that people love me. Look sir, I am not a journalist. Often, when journalists talk to you people, they either attack you, or come up with such topics of elections or Congress versus BJP. Nobody talks about governance. That once you have won the election, once you are in power, how do you exactly govern? How are policies made? What do you think? How do you make it? Bec

ause you have not studied road and transport. You became a minister, how you prepare yourself for that point, break it down a little. And other ministries may or may not be performing as much as your ministry, but if someone's performance has to be increased as a politician in power, then how is it done? Look, first of all, all the things you said, I have never thought about it, nor do I do, nor do I want to. Let me tell you one thing that happens. Whatever my are my fixes, As it is called grand

mother's wallet, I will tell you mine. I have a relationship with a person who does the smallest task. Even if a small deputy engineer, I talk to him with respect. About his health, about his family, I show concern whenever I speak. When he comes home, I make him sit down to eat. I talk well. Make him feel comfortable. If someone does good work, I congratulate him. If something goes wrong, I even abuse. So all this happens naturally by me. Now let me tell you the principle of management. This is

the secret of my success, neither am I a scholar, nor am I technically strong, nor am I an engineer. The first thing I say is that there is a management for everyone to work together. Like a person named 'A' did A square work and a person named 'B' did B square work. So total work is A squared plus B squared. A and B comes together, thinks together, and works together, A plus B brackets squared, the answer is A squared plus B squared plus twice AB. So Twice AB is a collective spirit. I am a min

ister, I will live in my ego. I am like this, I am like that, I expect protocol. It doesn't do anything. Respect should not be demanded, it should be commanded. I speak with love, I bring people together. If I want to scold someone then I call scold him in private. If needs be praised, I do it in public. I do distribution of work, division of work. For every worker, the right person and for the right person, the right job, I think of that. So these small things which is a human technology, on th

e basis of it, the training I received in Sangh, Vidyarthi Parishad, and Bharatiya Janata Party, I have been the president of the party, so my nature that developed and this science of masses. Based on that, I understood that people need love, trust, cooperation, harmony, tolerance, coordination, all this is necessary. And this is not a very big management principle. It's a simple matter. If I am eating food, and I say come on, will you also eat with me? It is no big deal. But by this, I ask tha

t person, and take him and sit together. He will feel he is a big heart-- It remains in his mind that he is a big minister. He is sitting with me. These small things which my mother taught me in my life, the institutions in which I grew up, Vidyarthi Parishad, Sangha, I got to learn there. I used it in corporate and this business world or administrative which you call modern management concept, the same qualities and the same nature were used in it. It did not happen by calculation, it happened

naturally. I got benefit from it. Meaning knowing the hearts of people. -And know how he manages people. -Just knowing this means study. -I already told you that I... -Understanding. I am completely undisciplined, unorganized, not calculated, don't plan, and carefree. I don't care who calls me good and I don't care who calls me bad. I will keep talking about myself. I have got elected to the parliament. This is my strength. I tell people that if you like vote for me, if not then don't vote. I wi

ll do this, I will not do this. So it is in my nature. Some people tell me you should not say this. But it is there. But how is so much work done? There must be some hacks. There is a feeling in my mind that I have got an opportunity. To work for the country, for the society, and for the poor. I am a nationalist, and I think that the people of this country should get good roads. The people of this country should get food, clothing, and housing. Poverty of the people of this country should be eli

minated. This country should not have smart cities but smart villages. As far as my ideological centricity goes its towards the villages, the poor, the laborers, and the farmers. Here I consider George Fernandes as my icon. His simple behavior. I was impressed by that. I consider Atal Bihari Vajpayee as my icon. So naturally from the nature of those people, I got to learn some things. Then my oratory was such that I was a cricketer. So in class eleventh, completed 25 years of independence. So a

girl with us was giving a speech in English. So she called nature 'natru', so we called at her a lot from behind, have water, have water. So our headmaster saw us and thrashed us and he asked that she can at least speak but you can't even give a speech. So he applied a negative tact on us. So we felt the headmaster beat us so much and said you can't speak, we will speak and show. Because of his beating, I started speaking. And as spoke I kept getting awards. So, I became a good speaker. So, as s

aid, nothing was planned. Nothing was done as an ambition or keeping an objective in front. Nothing happened by calculation. Nothing happened by understanding education and technology. I was once the president of BJP. So I used to wear a pant-shirt then. Nowadays I wear pajama-kurta. So many people told me in Bihar, UP, that you don't wear pant-shirt. Wear dhoti kurta or pajama kurta. Then people will accept you. I said that there is absolutely no need. I will wear whatever I want. I will say wh

atever I want. Let people accept me or reject me. To make the people happy or for people to follow me, I don't want to do a single thing. And I don't want to do it. This is my natural character, my liability or my negative point, this was my assumption. But when you are saying that people are appreciating, then I say that my negativity is my strength and this is my asset. You know sir, I don't like one thing about the political world. As a podcaster, I am from the digital world. And my world is

very easy as compared to your world. So whenever there are political conversations, it becomes very much you versus me. BJP versus Congress. Maybe it is because of the media. I had earlier been in Maharashtra's Vidhan Mandal for 18 years. I was the leader of opposition. I used to question the government. I wasn't very matured then. I was aggressive. I'm originally aggressive by nature. There used to be Vilasrao Deshmukh and many such ministers, who used to check, if I'm sitting, talking, they wo

uld avoid. Because I used fully expose them. Now it's the job of the opposition party, to criticize and comment. I met one of my friends. He told me, Nitin, remember one thing. There are two lines, one is yours. the other of someone else. If you want to expand your line, there are two ways. Either wipe someone else's or expand yours. So that thing sat in my heart. So such little things sat in my heart and I started expanding my line, and avoided talking about others? So now be it anytime, I don'

t tell anyone. Even if you question… I won't ask. No, I won't answer. I will say, tell me about me. Ask me about myself. I was going to extend the question. You are talking about RSS. I am trying to know RSS here. By talking to you. Why? Because I am from Mumbai. I am from the media world. Many people in the media world are anti-BJP. One of the reasons for them to be anti-BJP is that RSS wants Muslims and Christians to get out of this country. That's their narrative. It is in their thinking. So

when I am chilling with them at a party, I can't say anything about RSS. Because I don't know much about RSS. And even what the media says about RSS, I myself don't know if it's true or not. I want to know from you Because you have been a part of RSS for a very long time. See Hindutva, Hinduism, Hindu lifestyle, first try to understand this. This has been RSS' bad luck, image versus reality and ground reality versus perception. Many people tell me that I am very good. If I am good, then RSS is g

ood. If I am bad, then RSS is too. Whatever I got to learn and study, I got from RSS and Vidyarthi Parishad. Now I will tell you one thing. A journalist says that I am following the journalist's religion. A teacher says that I am following the teacher's religion. In this, the meaning of religion is duty. Hindu is a lifestyle. Meaning 50 years from today, 100 years, 200 years, 500 years ago, per circumstances, today's Muslim, today's Christian, he was a Hindu. A song is sung in the Sangh. 'Sansku

rti sabki ek chirantana, purkhe jiske hindu hien, virat sagar samaj apna, hum sab iske bindu hein'. So we say we are not against any religion. You are Muslim, your way of worship, not just once, offer prayers in the masjid 10 times. You believe in Lord Gautam Buddha, you go to Buddha Vihar, not once, go 100 times. You are a Christian, you go to the church, no problem. We say that our culture is different but our nation is one. Our culture is one. Our way of worship is different. So our history,

culture, and heritage, the Indian perspective, the national perspective, is related to the history of Hindus. And the synonym of Hindu is Indian. And Indian words include people of all religions, and people of all castes. I am very against caste politics. I don't believe in it. I don't believe in any caste. I believe in humanity. A man doesn't become great by his caste, race, religion, language, or gender, he becomes great by his qualities. Whatever be the way of worship, be of any faith, do it.

But we are one as India. Together on the basis of our history, culture, and heritage we will work for the all-round development of this country. We will remove the country's poverty, starvation, and unemployment. And we have rights. The constitution has given. Are fundamental rights, freedom of speech There are all kinds of rights. And in the method of worship, A Hindu will go to the temple, A Muslim will go to the mosque. We are not saying anything about stopping Muslims from going to the mosq

ue. We are only saying that our blood is one, our history is one, our heritage is one, our culture is one, we are Indians. An Indian is related to the Hindu way of life. Swami Vivekanand Ji in America, the speech that he gave in Chicago, what was that? He said that I have not come here because my religion is great and my God is great. I have come here because the God you believe in, the religion you believe in, is great. The duty and religion you follow and the God you worship, the religion and

the path to God I follow, leads to the same place. There is a 'subhashita' in Sanskrit, 'Akashat Patitum Toyam Yatha Gacchati Sagram. Sarva Deva Namaskar Keshavam Pratigacchati'. If you understand a bit of Marathi, then here goes the translation. 'Pade Khalti Je Nabhatun Pani, Jasse Sagaratech Milun Zai Namaskar Konyahi Devas Kela, Pari Shevati To Pochto Keshwala'. Like, as water falls from the sky, and through the rivers and streams when it meets the sea in the end, similarly, by offering praye

r to any God, reaches only one God. So where are we discriminating? There was such a big flood in Morvi, RSS built houses for everyone. We give glasses in our camp. We give it to all religions. Our government under the leadership of Modi ji launched many schemes, gave gas cylinders to 9.50 crores people. Opened 50 crores bank accounts. So did we use any discrimination? This is 'Sabka Sath, Sabka Vishwas.' Even we have feel-- Yes, those people who live in our country and think bad of our country,

work under the support and influence of foreign powers, we will oppose that. We will keep our country and all our borders secure. Look, in our country, the one who will be capable, will be powerful, only he can establish peace, can establish non-violence. And no matter how much a weak person does, it doesn't happen. And so we have to become capable. But we are not expansionists. Bhutan, Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, they never get this feeling, that India will grab our land. This is the victory

of our culture, history, and heritage. This is the nature of us Indians. That is 'Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam'. The whole world is one. And let us together develop the world. This is Hindu culture and Indian culture. What is the problem? Confuse when unable to convince. When you fail to convince, confuse… For vote bank politics, Hindutva, Hinduism, religion, based on that if someone is talking about Hindutva, then he is anti-Muslim, anti-minority, this has been propagated. And because of this, falseh

ood was created. The judgment given on Hindutva by the Supreme Court, even in that it is stated, that Hindutva is a way of life. Value, vision, lifestyle, family system. This is our strength. Like now, Greeks. Majority of Muslim people have Greek scriptures. Ayurveda is with Hindus. Science of yoga, pranayama. So what is good in Greek, we will take that too. What is wood in Ayurveda, we will take that too. Will take from yoga, pranayama too. And take our message to the world What I said earlier,

sir, that when media talks about politics, it brings the narrative of you versus me, Congress versus BJP. So, do you believe that whatever negative publicity RSS has got, especially in cities, is because of the very reason, the media is portraying RSS in a way… Forget about media. Like the Hindi movies have a formula, need a little fighting, then need a dance, cabaret dance, then need sex, then need the weeping of parents, the son cries calling out his father, papa! The way a plot, script is ma

de. The same way media people script it. In media, see our democracy stands on four pillars. Judiciary, executive wing, legislative wing, and media. Media is the one going to transform this knowledge Today's new generation wants that new futuristic technology, futuristic development, futuristic vision, what good happened in the world, show us that. Today, on my phone, there's a very good businessman, sent me a video, that ships have started working on methanol, it is made from coal, and I also t

alk about that. So, he sent, I posted on my social media today, so the country understands that methanol is ₹25/liter, diesel is ₹120/liter. Methanol is less pollutant, diesel is more, and our trucks, our buses, our tractors, and our ships, if they run on methanol, then there will be no import, no pollution, there will be social welfare. So in some way conveying those good things to the people, education of masses. This job has to be done by the media. You know what they do? What did he say? The

y record him. They go to your house. He said this, what do you want to say? They work to induce fights. And as it happens, street dogs bark at each other, when that picture forms, they clap If media does this, it will not withstand the test of time. Have you seen the movie, Gangs of Wasseypur? Till the time there is a cinema in India, till then… that kind of dialogue. I will tell you one thing, the people who are eternal, contemporary, socially suited, knowledge, science, technology-based, based

on what people think, those who work to enlighten, train, and impart values will survive. People are very smart, they like your program, do you give money? You have your advertisement? I am the leader, why am I called good, I don't understand. I don't print posters, I don't go to anyone, I don't speak. The followers on my social media, even they are natural. Many people advised me, it is at 3.5 crores now, if you expand it this much, it will reach this much, I don't want to do that, I don't wan

t to lie, if you need, come, if you don't want to come, don't come, if you want to give vote, give it, if you don't want to give, don't give it. I will keep doing my work. I will tell you, ultimately, I will tell you one thing. Tell me, sir. The more people take a shortcut, the shortcut will cut you short. If you take the long turn with honesty, transparency, and walk the path of honesty, the era will only belong to them, and people will ultimately recognize them, and they will stay with them ev

en with their shortcomings. Sir, I definitely want to talk about the future with you, because I feel politicians have insight, what is going to happen in the country, definitely want to talk about those things, but so that we can close this loop, many non-Hindus of the country are also watching this podcast, with a little emotion of fear, and they have fear in their hearts, I feel this is a conditioning, even because of algorithms this has happened. But what would you like to say to them, especi

ally RSS related, does RSS and... See, I am from Nagpur, RSS was established in Nagpur, I was an MLA in the Maharashtra Government, I got an engineering college in quota, Who did I give to? There is Anjuman Islam in Nagpur, gave it to a Muslim organization. There is Taj Bagh in Nagpur, Me and Devendra ji, the Chief Minister, we gave all the money there, to Taj Bagh, made it like Taj Mahal. Today, in the history of 75 years, what did Muslims get? Tea stall, pan shop, junk shop, truck driver, and

cleaner. Why shouldn't Muslims be software engineers, should be doctors. Muslim boys should become IAS, IPS officers, good players have come in the Muslim society, have come in cricket, have come in hockey, should become good players in football, so I will tell you one thing, that the all-round development of Muslim society, which Babasaheb Ambedkar used to state, that knowledge, education, this is the milk of a tigress, of a tigress. So today, if Muslim society goes to the mosque, and if mullah

s and maulvis, keep teaching, it holds no future for them. They can do the namaz ten times, do worship, no issues with that. But if they learn computers, learn engineering, become a doctor, become an IAS officer, so they have a future in that, They'll get a dollar-paying job in the world. So the question is, when someone says bitter and true things, I don't have a problem, I say this, become an engineer, become a doctor. Sitting with a mullah or maulvi, is not going to do any good for you. What

has happened with you until now? What did politicians give you? A tea stall, pan shop, junk shop, truck driver, and cleaner. Will you keep doing this your whole life? Will you continue staying in the slums in the same dirt? Won't you become better. When they become good people, their bungalows were built, they got good resources. So, people realized, where does their path of development lie, and our party-- I am a volunteer of the Sangh. The Sangh got established in Nagpur. Someday try out an ex

periment. There are 2.5-3 lakhs Muslims in Nagpur. You may probably, 5-50,000, maybe voting for me or not voting for me. Go to any Muslim, and ask him, if Nitin Gadkari is your enemy or your friend. None will call me an enemy. This is truly, image versus reality, and ground reality versus perception. If there is a flood, it enters even in a Muslim settlement, and even a Hindu settlement. An earthquake takes place, there is a cloud burst. Everyone is at a loss. The gas cylinder, costs the same to

a Muslim, as it costs to a Hindus. Petrol and diesel, the prices are same. So why do we fight? Yes, where is the fight, like based on humanity, married to a woman, so you divorce her at anytime, get hold of another, not like this. It is an injustice with her. In the case of Shah Bano, when the talk of divorce came up, so, in this way, based on humanity, equality to all. Like untouchability, racism existed in Hinduism. Now I believe, I will not practice untouchability, racism. I will not practic

e racism. And I will not speak with anyone on the basis of caste. All casts that are poor are poor. All are my family. I will work for everyone. I will work for the poor first. The first right on the property of this country belongs to poor man of this country. He is a Hindu, Muslim, Jain, Christian, doesn't matter? I think slowly, this kind of people think, then people even understand. But in politics, for political benefit, for vote bank politics, people are misled. Now see the history of Chha

trapati Shivaji Maharaj, -whom I consider my icon. -Same Now tell me, did Shivaji Maharaj ever destroy a single mosque? The daughter-in-law of Kalyan's Subedar, when she was captured and brought. What did he say? Had my mother also been beautiful like her, I too would have been that good looking. He gave her a saree, respect, and with great respect, dropped her to her home. He never attacked any mosque. Let's talk about the super economic power, sir. Let's talk a bit about the future. Many econo

mists came on the show, Sanjeev Sanyal, sir had come, KV Subramanian, sir had come. We talked about the future with them. They said that the base of the future is infrastructure. If the infrastructure is strong in the country, road, transports, are strong, then manufacturing can be boosted, different services and businesses can be boosted, because there is also something called digital infrastructure. So the first step is infrastructure, second step is business, what is the country's future acco

rding to you, what are you most excited about, yourself, at a human level, as an Indian. See, in my office, I have written a sentence from American President, John F. Kennedy. 'American roads are not good because America is rich, but America is rich because American roads are good.' Water, power, transport, and communication, and digital infrastructure, when all this will develop, then industry will come up, trade business will increase, capital investment will come in. And if the industry and c

apital investment and trade and business increases, then employment will be created. And if employment gets created, then poverty will go away. If the industry progresses, then the import will decrease, export will increase. Now there is an import of 16 lakh crores of fossil fuel. It is my effort, which is very difficult, but is not impossible, which is my life mission, that the farmer of this country-- Ethanol, methanol, bio-diesel, bio-LNG, Bio-CNG, electric, hydrogen, and now aviation fuel wi

ll also be made by farmers, And slowly and gradually it is getting fulfilled. I believe that if there is one most important thing today, that is rural agriculture tribal. Rural India, which is based on water, land, forest, and animals, and using the best technology available in the world, we should develop the rural, India's rural agriculture, and India's forest should be developed. Now understand one thing. In our country's GDP growth, 12% contribution is just from agriculture and allied indust

ry, 22-24% is of manufacturing sector, 52-54% is of service sector, and Gandhiji used to say, our country is dwells in the village, now in our country, the one who dwells in the village in that, when Gandhiji was there, 80% people used to live in the village, now 65% have come, now these 25-30% people who migrated, didn't do it out of freewill. In Delhi, Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai, Bangalore, these slums that came up, these came from the village, why did they come? Because there is no good school

in the village, there is no good road in the village, there is no pure water to drink in the village, there is no employment in the village. Farmer's crops don't pay well. And as sustainable development did not happen there, due to that people came to the city. Now the issue of importance is this, that the day the agricultural sector's contribution in the GDP, which is 12%, the day it will get to 24%, that day, the 65% population which has come, has urbanized, out of this, 10% population will mi

grate to rural India. -Will go back. -Will go back. Water, land, jungle, and animals. Now I will tell you one thing. I, we have his rice straw, it is burnt. Now from rice straw, you get bio-CNG, bio-LNG. 185 factories are in process. 36 factories are developed. The country's first, my tractor, is running on bio-CNG made of rice straw. Farmers save ₹1 lakh. A plant is opened in Panipat, 1 lakh liter ethanol is made, 150 ton bio-bitumen is made, and along with that now, bio-aviation fuel is being

made. Now on this bio-aviation fuel, airplanes will fly. Now tell me, the farmer of this country, ethanol flex engine is coming, now Toyota's car, Suzuki, all cars are coming, scooter is coming, Bajaj, TVS, on 100% ethanol. And this flex engine has good as no pollution. Import substitute, cost effective, pollution free and indigenous. Now, out of these 16 lakh crores imports, the saved 5 lakh crores goes in the villages, and if all this is developed in the village, green hydrogen, ethanol, metha

nol, bio-diesel, bio-LNG, bio-CNG, by using bio-technology, we will generate bio-mass, and by generating bio-mass, bio-CNG, bio-LNG, ethanol will be made. Now there is Numaligarh refinery. We had studied a lot in the past, now ethanol is made from bamboo there. So the MD from there came to me. Were in Nagpur, MECL, so we went there. So we sell petrol and diesel to Bangladesh through a pipeline from Assam. So I told them that this ethanol made from bamboo, add 20% of it in petrol, and send it to

Bangladesh. So Bangladesh's petrol will be cheaper by ₹5. They will save money. Your ethanol will get used. So all the bamboo in Assam and North East, Ethanol will be made by that. So, lakhs of youth will get employment. It is a green fuel, an import substitute, cost effective, pollution free. But whatever these dreams are, how far are they realistically? Sir, remember one thing, I am not the one who shows dreams. No, I'm not saying it that way. No, don't misunderstand. Not you, any journalist f

rom India, I have an answer to everything, and is a proven example. Sir, I am not a journalist. But I am telling you-- Because you are absolutely right, because people don't believe what I say. In 2004, until now, today it has been 18 years, 19 years, I am saying this since then, people didn't believe me, my party did not. I think people's trust is completely with you. Now it is there. Yes, that is because of internet. No, no, that happened because, now 20 liters of ethanol is added to petrol. N

ow I have launched Toyota's flex engine car. Now there is a hydrogen car in my house, I will take you for a ride now. No, no, no, no, no. For that, no my wife told me. I told there will be hydrogen from water, and cars will run, trucks will run, so my wife told me, you say that hydrogen will come out of water, and the car will run, when even I don't trust, how will people trust? So I called Vikram Kirloskar, and brought the hydrogen car. It is here now. Now take every chief minister for a ride.

So that, it can be believed, that in our country hydrogen, green hydrogen, brown hydrogen, black hydrogen will be produced. First green hydrogen will be produced more. Chemical industry, steel industry, instead of coal and oil, everything will run on hydrogen, our aircraft will run on bio-fuel produced by farmers. We are importing 80 lakh tons of bitumen, I am not saying this, the Petroleum Institute, Dehradun of India, and ones in central research, researched and made bio-bitumen. There are 8 g

ood features in it. The farmer of this country is a food giver. Now he has become an energy giver. Now he has become a bitumen giver. Now he will become a bio aviation fuel giver, and planting wheat, rice, corn in this country, cannot change a farmer's future. Then the villages will be prosperous, instead of a smart city, a smart village will be made. There will be a good CBSC schools in the village. There will be a good hospital. There will be good doctors. There will be 24 hours water supply i

n the village. There will be electricity for 24 hours. A farmer will get paid in lakhs for his produce. No one from a village will come to the city, then the development of India that will happen, then India will become self-reliant. And our import will decrease, export will increase, And India will become the superpower of the world. Is this a thing of 2030s? -2030 is a realistic… -See sir one, we had a-- The one who we used to believe a lot, Dattopant Thengadi, was a big thinker. He was a big

thinker. So he said a good thing, every politician thinks about his next election, and every socio-economic reformer, thinks from century to century. I won't tell you how long it will take, but I will tell you one thing, Today the policies that we and our government are following under the leadership of Modi ji will yield such results in about 10 years that you will see circumstances changing completely. It is changing even now. Will be visible more. And slowly, as you keep going with it, our ex

port will increase? Tell me the logistic cost. Is 14-16%, we have made a good road. Then instead of petrol and diesel, ethanol came, LNG came, CNG came, electric vehicle came, bus came, hydrogen vehicle came, now on the trolley, electric highways are being made. So our logistic cost within 2 years, It's my attempt, it's not my commitment, neither my declaration, I'm going to say it clearly. Within 2 years, logistic cost, I am making 36 green highways, and not like this, it will to 9%, in single

digit. So from 16% will come to 9%, so you save 6% to 7%. So in the export market your potential will increase. When I became the minister, the automobile industry was worth 4.5 lakh crores. When Modi ji became the Prime Minister. Now in between, until 2 months ago, we were on 4th position, today by putting Japan behind us, we came up to the 3rd position. Became a 12.5-lakh-crore industry, 4.5 lakh crores people got job. For the State Government and the Indian Government, it is the biggest GST p

aying industry. Now tell me, in the coming time, if in the same way, the automobile industry which is worth 12.5 lakh crores, and it is our objective, our mission. Again, is a target, not declaration, to take the country to the first position, Now, who is in the first position? America, China in 2nd position, India on 3rd position. Now we want to make it a 25-lakh-crore industry. We brought a scrapping policy. Rubber, rubber powder, plastic, steel, aluminum, copper, everything is being recycled.

So the component's value will reduce by 30%. So in export, we'll further decrease 7% in logistics, it will reduce 25-30% in this. So all over the world, truck, bus, car, tractor, scooter, will not be found cheaper than in our country. And we will be best in quality. Today Bajaj, TVS, and Hero, export 50% of the production. It will happen so, the production will increase, export will increase, employment will get generated. Government will get tax. The economy will grow, wealth will increase, an

d India will become 'Atmanirbhar Bharat', not smart villages, not smart cities, but smart villages will come up. Villages, poor, laborers, farmers, will rise above the poverty line. Will be free of poverty, starvation, unemployment. And India will become a happy, prosperous, developed, and powerful world leader. This is our roadmap, it is our attempt. I think this will be possible. Sir, you may have learned a lot from this transportation and infrastructure phase, I want to ask you that there wil

l be an end vision regarding transportation, roads, or is this a continuous process? Means, all the highways that are made, is there any end point. Should I tell the truth? Tell me, sir. I live here on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday, I wake up on Monday morning, I come here, I finish work on Wednesday, on Thursday I tour the country, go to Nagpur. At night all I think about is what to eat today. There is no other important thought. I do what I see, I keep going. The scholars like you, saying it

in a good way, those who are thinkers, scholars, have left everything to them. You think and do. Nor am I that big. I'm a very ordinary person. I used to watch movies in third class. A life eating on the footpath. I remember once being honored in Oberoi Sheraton, I was awarded, by the whole Builder Association of India. I was the minister in Maharashtra then. So call it my worth, or my nature, there was food for me, There I had soup, nothing else? And came to Girgaon Chaupati and I ate on footpa

th. So I am one who eats on a footpath, one who watches movies in third class, and one who watches the drama from behind, I have come from that class. So I don't think that much. Now I feel only this much, whatever the best which I can deliver to this country and the society, what I believe that politics is an instrument of socio-economic reform, village, poor, labor, farmer, and an ordinary person, what can I do to make their life right, I can do this, do it. By making an electric highway, what

is my dream, that there will be a bus, there will be a business class seat, There will be a girl like an air hostess. Will get tea, coffee, samosa. In 2 hours Delhi, Jaipur will be in 2:15 hours. In that, they will watch on a laptop. Will go sleeping. The ticket rate will be 30% less than diesel bus. Now I am making UER-II in Delhi. We have put 30 lakh tons of garbage in the road. I feel happy. I want to put the entire garbage of this country, because I am pro-environment. In this country, bamb

oo crash barrier was successfully done. Now the rubber tire, by importing it, by making its powder, by putting it in bitumen, will reduce import by at least 15 lakh tons. Rubberized bitumen will come in market, will enhance the road quality, and these 15 lakh tons will give employment. Waste to wealth, and knowledge to wealth, I say two things, innovation, entrepreneurship, science, technology, research, skill, and successful practices, we name it as knowledge, and conversion of knowledge into w

ealth is the future. Second thing I say, no material is waste, no person is waste, it is depending upon the appropriate technology, it is depending upon the appropriate vision of the leadership, that you can convert waste into wealth, so you keep working, and this country has tremendous capability. Sir is it true that Central Government's work can be done more easily, if in states too, the same political party is in power, or if it is difficult, if there is a different political party in the sta

tes, then central government's work becomes a bit difficult. It would have benefited had there been the same government in both the places Work would quickly… They would have not opposed the government's decision. Sometimes it happens so, it is the right of the State Government. One makes a decision, the other opposes. Even this happens. See I will tell you one thing. These unproductive, useless things are unworthy of a discussion. Okay, fine. What I think is, I'm positive. I will do positive wo

rk. I will think positively. Will work for the society. The one who doesn't do, be blessed. The one who does, be blessed too. Slowly, I think, one day I was going alone, then with my thinking, slowly, a caravan was formed. One day they will also come. The situation will change. There will be a qualitative change in politics. For the reconstruction of the nation, even after ideological differences, people will come together. See I will tell you one thing. It is not politics of conviction. It is a

politics of convenience. There are no differences. There are no ideological differences. Thoughtlessness is our problem. Therefore, with conviction, the society, country, village, poor, laborers, farmers, people working in favor of it, of different mindset, of different parties, if at least remain united towards the objective, rest of their things may be different. Gradually will come on one platform, in one direction. Them this country's progress and development will move faster, that is what

I think. Some 7 politicians have come on my show. You are the 8th politician. I will tell you one thing. Tell me, sir. I am not a politician. Shouldn't be? -I am not. -Okay. I'm a social worker. Politicians usually are cunning, lie. Gives you confidence about things that won't happen. Such is the image. All are not like this. Amrish Puri in Nayak. -Yes. -Amrish Puri of Nayak. I am not. Nor do I want to do? Can anyone dare? I too have won the Lok Sabha with 3.5 lakhs votes. Maybe I will win by a

better margin next time. One thing is, for you, I will not put up my posters, I will not put up banners. -Backed by your performance. -I will come to your place, touch your feet and seek your blessings. Who wants to vote, vote. Don't want to give, don't give. I haven't taken a lifetime contract. No, no. People will change. Someone better than me will come. Because you are talking in such a raw way, maybe that is why even youth supports you. The honest way, I have said this many times, in today's

conversation, but this is true. My political adviser that I have, it's good for me, I got courage because of you. He tells me, don't talk this way. No, no say, sir. You will be at loss. Such a thing, you… Whether I gain or lose, I will remain like this. I will say what comes to my mind. I will do what I want to do. I will go where I want to go. What I don't want to do, I'll decline. It will be, as it will be. Through podcasts people understand these things. Who is telling the truth, who is talk

ing openly. And nowadays, I honestly feel, many people in your world use the wrong PR strategy. See I used to be a poster pasting worker. My handwriting was bad. It was Atal Bihari Bajpayee's meeting. What was I worthy of? Putting white lime on a black wall, was my worth. Because had to write on the wall, Atal Bihari Bajpayee's public meeting, at Kasturchand Park, had to be written. The writer's letters were good, but it needed applying white lime first. I was worthy of applying white lime. The

other task that I used to do, I used to take a big mark from electricity board, and bring it on a cycle, because… used to tear the poster. So I used to stick a sticker on the poster, and would climb up and stick it. These were my two capabilities. I used to stick posters and lime on black walls. I didn't have a PR. I have never come to Delhi. Delhi is unknown to me now. I don't know the roads of Delhi, I didn't want to come, I never got my data printed. The party in which I used to stick posters

on the wall, that party made me the party's president. The chair on which Atal Bihari Bajpayee and Advani sat, I was given a chance to sit on that chair. I got more than my status and rank. I got the post of a minister. The party gave me a lot, I am happy. This didn't happen by any calculation. So I feel that, keep working with honesty, maintain conscience, social responsibility, social consciousness, and social sensitiveness, is most important thing with a politician and a social worker. Keep

working for the poor. Keep serving people. Be it the field of education, be it the field of service, be it the field of development, keep working for women, the handicapped. I fitted 500 people with prosthesis. The ones who came on a stretcher, they started running. Started driving a Bullet. Started playing football. I got more happiness than winning an election. For this whole podcast, I have planned only one difficult question, and I'll ask you that difficult question. Due to the recent rains

in Himachal and Uttarakhand, the roads got destroyed. People on Instagram and YouTube are also saying that because so much development has taken place in the mountains, the environment has been impacted and because of the environmental impact, now mother Earth is responding. Mother Nature is responding. So how do you deal with this situation? The first thing is that, I am from Maharashtra, in Pune and Mumbai we have seen Sahyadri, it is black stone. Himalaya is not stone -Soil? -In soil-- Stone

stuck this way in white soil. Majority is like this. See, I'll tell you one thing. Geology, mineralogy, crystallography, geomorphology, you may have seen a bit of that. All this is geology. In this, talc, gypsum, calcite, fluorite, apatite, arthroclite, quartz, corundum, diamond are the 10 materials, which are the Mohs scale of hardness. So the hardest material is diamond. The Himalayas come first. It is soil. The second thing is, such is the situation in Switzerland also, also there in Norway.

Some special technology has to be used for this. We have built many roads, the clouds are bursting, water is coming, the river changing its flow, cars have washed away. We have some limitations. People construct building besides a river. Build villages, then when water comes, it washes away. Then here you have the Himalaya. Now if you go to Manali from Kulu. We have made a very big road, 5-6 thousand crores. A mountain here, a mountain here. Then we have built a road from this mountain, after ma

king the road, there is a village here, after the village, river, after the river, then our road, and after the road, again the Himalaya. Now both falling from top, have to look like this, then how will we cover it? Well, if we make a road, then where will we make it? Now wherever people live, to connect that village, will build a road. If we build, again there is a mountain. So one, don't think of building a road, if you want to build, then how to think? So the first thing is, we have now-- Fir

st thing, the loss that has incurred, unexpectedly, a lot of water came in. The river changed the pattern. Caused a flood. It was beyond control. Still, we were not as strong technically as we were. So if we have any shortcomings in this, I accept them. Now I have taken a presentation from Switzerland. Have called a team from there. Have called people from Norway. Now as we have identified accidental black spots, where these mountains have fallen, landslides have happened, we have identified the

m as black spots. It entails, cutting a mountain like this, then putting a net, then do bolting. Then apply some spaces in it. So taking this technique from Norway and Switzerland, we will make such an attempt, because we can't change the road, we can't change the path of road either. Now Badrinath, Kedarnath, Gangotri, Char Dham road is being built. When there was no road, then, in 2012, how many people died, how big an accident happened due to the cloud burst. People living next to the river,

are not ready to leave. They are encroaching and constructing a building there. Building big hotels. So the problem is, to solve this existing problem, we are technically dealing it with black spots, we will do it using the best technology in the world. What happened is absolutely right. What you said is absolutely right. And the situations were very bad, but in those situations, there are only two solutions, one, don't build roads, so there is a village. In Manali, people are living. Now the pr

oblem was, to go from Manali to Rohtang Pass would take 3.5 hours. So we made tunnels there. So we go in 8 minutes. Now making a tunnel everywhere, the government doesn't have so much money. To build a road in a mountain? We just built a road from Chandigarh to Manali. We have built tunnels of at least 20,000 crores. From where will we make so many tunnels? Now Himachal, Uttarakhand, Kashmir, it is all mountainous. If we fully tunnel it, it will cost us ₹7 lakh crores. So for this is existing pr

oblem, at places tunnels are being built. At places, like black spots, where landslides happened, by making it a black spot, using the best technology, protecting it, people's life and property, both. We're trying in this way. Second thing, I gave a suggestion, when it happens in our country, everyone says that didn't happen, this didn't happen. If they do something here, then the environment people stop. Now I said, bring the river level, down to 2-3 meters. I'm ready to do it free of charge. I

gave a suggestion to the Chief Minister of Himachal. This material that will be taken out, I will then use it in the road, free of charge. So by going 2-3 meters deep in the river, the water that comes up, and a slant caused, that runs here towards the village, if it goes down, it won't come up, so there won't be any loss to the village. So now I said, I have spoken on the proposal with the DG of Environment, for the permission. So we have to do river dredging, so that the water volume goes ins

ide, So that it does not flow out, so that it doesn't cause loss to people. The mountains that are falling down, using new technologies on them, have to apply some nets, have to apply some spaces, at places have to cover with jute. There are various technologies. Have to work on that. Now what we have done, has a lot of flaws. We also have financial constraints. Can't build tunnels everywhere. To carry out this work needs a lot of money. But between the lines, we understood, human life is import

ant, and to protect it, all these landslide spots, Himachal, Uttarakhand, and our Kashmir, Arunachal, wherever they are, we will fix them. And second Himachal-- Himalaya, this is not a stone mountain. You understand, Himalaya is maximum, stone buried in the soil, and it is on top, is fragile. Means it is fully a fragile strata. So we will talk with him and try. I have given you a true picture of it. If we have some shortcomings, we will fix it. In such situations, sir, I feel bad for those who a

re sitting in governance. Because at one place you also need an infrastructure and there is public demand to increase the infrastructure in the country, on the other side, such situations also come to mind. Now tell me, in Manali, 40-50 Volvo buses washed away. Hotels washed away. People washed away. Now living besides a river, have to lift the village from there. When there is a flood in the river, the water does not understand who is who. He sneaks in here and there and breaks everything and g

oes away. Now people will say that we will not leave the place. So what to do? Okay, if you want to give space, if you want to make space, then the forest department says... Means the problems are such, very critical and big problems. But no matter how many problems are there, I have one principle, there are some people who convert problems into opportunities. And there are some people who convert opportunities into problems. Whatever the problem may be, my responsibility. With the support of th

e State Government, along with the National Highway, by completely protecting it, I will sincerely try to find a solution and we are working on it. The way I asked you the question of RSS, that there are narratives in youth, another narrative is that, when roads are being built, there is a lot of corruption involved, is this true because of the old systems? I have till now done 50 lakh crores worth of work, If you get even one contractor, you will have to go to Gadkari and pay money, then you wi

ll get the work. Even if you tell me secretly, I'm ready to face the punishment you give. But I cannot accept the claim that all people are like this. There are problems, the social system is such, that good and bad people are everywhere. How to get to the root of it, sir? We have made a digital system. No tender of ours is managed. I can say this on your face because it is an e-tender. We have framed technical and financial qualification, Any of our minister decides, give him work, can't give.

The more we make the system technically strong, the more we use technology, use digital system, bring transparency, corruption will gradually end. And the second thing, it happens so, those who do good deeds are not honored and those who do bad deeds are not punished. When something wrong is done, it should be punished. Sometimes also if I use abusive language, people tell me, why do you say so? I had said that the contractor who does not build a proper road, put him under the bulldozer. These a

re the assets of my country. People don't like that as well. So this way, I'm very clear. It's public money and we are the trustees. Work will be done with honesty and whoever does a wrong deed, will be reprimanded. Now the most strict person from our place, who cannot be managed by anyone, I told to make such a person in-charge of quality control. I will get all the contractors pestered by him. I will create more problems for everyone, be careful if you do a bad job. If a bad job is done, I get

it uprooted. Even then things are changing. Quality is improving. But sometimes problems keep coming up. There is no need to take your name at all, but do you think that you have seen so much success in your governance career that people are jealous of you? I don’t even look at anyone, So why should I care who is jealous, who is not. It is written on the back of a truck. What is written? 'Jalnewale Jala Karein, Kismat Hamare Sath Hein'. Some write, 'Jalne Wale Ka Dil Kala' something of that sor

t. 'Buri Nazar Wale', what? 'Buri Nazar Wale… 'Buri Nazar Wale Tera Muh Kala' Keep going, while saying. Whoever says good, good be with him. Whoever says bad, good be with him too. Keep going. Look after your home and family. Stay happy. And after that, for the village poor, laborers, farmers, society, country, do whatever you can. The one who has born, his death is inevitable. I know one day even I have to leave. There is less time, like one day cricket, I will do as much as I can. So that ther

e are sustainable developments somewhere in people's lives. If I can create happiness, my aim will be solved. That is why I said, politics is an instrument of socio-economic reform, I am one of the small persons. Small person… Who is doing his level best, in whatever he is trying to do. If thousands of people like me do, it will become an ocean of goodness. I have the job of putting drops in it, I'm doing it, I'll keep doing. What do you want from life, sir? I don't want anything. -So, you think

about the endpoint. -Yes? As you just said endpoint. I was worried only about one thing. I opened a lot of loss-making sugar factories in the industrial business. I have had a lot of debt, still have it. Once the loan from the banks is repaid, I am only worried about it, otherwise, I'm not worried about anything. I saw an old clip of yours a long time ago. Where you said that no politician is not happy or something like that. No, no, I said in Rajasthan, the one who becomes MLA is sad because h

e was not made a minister. A minister is sad because he did not get a good department. The one who got a good department is not happy because he feels that he did not become a Chief Minister. The one who becomes a Chief Minister thinks when the people in Delhi will keep him or remove him, hence he becomes sad. So I told them not to think. Keep working. Keep doing good work. Whatever will happen, is written in the essence of Gita, whatever is going to happen will happen. Came empty handed, have t

o go empty handed. Work in whatever time you get with joy and fun. Be happy and keep going, I had said this thing. Sir, there is a famous dialogue of Delhi, that you don't know who my father is, But even their fathers basically, at the most, must be knowing politicians. So you get a little frustrated, that so many people call you for such petty things? I clearly say, this does not happen. But do people ask like this? All kinds of people come to my house. I don't stop anyone. Atal Bihari Bajpayee

ji, had told me, Nitin, remember this, no matter how important work you have, no matter how much hurry you are in, people who came to your house, at least talk with all of them for a minute, then get going. Sometimes I go late to programs, I have been named late master, but I deal with the people who come, with love, with respect. If possible, I ask for tea, sometimes ask for breakfast. I keep good loving relations with them. I consider people like my family. This is my strength and because of

this, I got people's love, this is my wealth, and this is my property. There is one last question, What people don't know about you? Tell me that. Know a lot of things about you? The man who does not concern people should not speak this way, I say, let the world go to oil. Previously the word was, go to hell. Gone to oil, so go, think about yourself. As I told you, many things in my life. I eat on the footpath. I am in Z-Plus, police don't leave me. They come there with guns. I become very uncom

fortable. I can't chase them away. But even then, I'm enjoying my life with my own ways. I want to live my life, the way I want. I will keep living. Whoever says good, good be with him. Whoever says bad, good be with him too. I want to walk, I will keep walking. I will keep doing it as long as I live. Let God get it done through my hands. Whatever good will happen will be due to the good wishes, cooperation of all of you. If something goes wrong it will be because of me. Can I ask one last quest

ion? It is my personal question. Last, last, last question. People like me who are businessmen of the country or are young media professionals, do you have any advice for them, sir? Honesty, credibility, and goodwill, is the biggest capital of 21st century. With honesty, earn your credibility, goodwill. More than technology and financial resources your credibility, your honesty, your transparency are more important. Maintain your reputation. Don't take shortcuts. Shortcut cuts you short. Keep go

ing. Once you make a name, the world bends, need someone to bend it. Within Gadkari, sir, thank you. You gave us a lot of time. I'm very grateful. In the end I would just like to say that behind you, there is a statue of Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. Shivaji Maharaj is my God. Yes, sir. I will tell you in Marathi. 'Yashawant, Kirtivant, Vardavant, Samarthyavant, Zanata Raja. Nishchayacha Mahameru, Bahut Janasi Adharu, Akhand Stithicha Nidharu, Shrimant Yogi.' Since childhood, Babasaheb Purandare.

My childhood passed listening to Shivaji. My mother and father, in my life, if I have more respect for anyone than them, it is for Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. His life, his ideal, his rule, a father like him, a son like him, was absolute in everything, was an ideal. We are absolutely nowhere compared to him. Looking at him, keep trying to emulate him in life. I think if the entire young generation considers Shivaji Maharaj as its icon, then definitely everything will change in the country and

society. But sir, in some Maratha Warriors, a small glimpse of him is seen. A small glimpse of him is definitely seen in you. At least his thinking, whatever you have said on today's podcast. I am saying that I am a very low-cost raw material. I don’t want to say anything about myself. And whatever is good, that is because of RSS, Vidyarthi Parishad, Bharatiya Janta Party, and Chhatrapati Shivaji Maharaj. He has taught us. Mahatma Jyotiba Phule, Babasaheb Ambedkar, Rajarshi Shahu Maharaj. They g

ave socio-economic thinking. Dr. Ram Manohar Lohia was of socialist thoughts but with him I was inspired to work for some poor people. Learned from George Fernandez, Atal Bihari Vajpayee. I will tell you one thing at the end. After this, you don't ask questions. Don't ask? I won't ask. I will tell you a very good thing -about my life. -Sure. The ones who I considered very big in my heart, after going close to them, when I experienced them, when I lived with them, when I evaluated them, then I ca

me to know that they are not as big as I thought them to be. Those who I considered very small in life were illiterate and uneducated. They had no reputation. There was no respect. But after getting closer to him, I got to see such qualities of theirs that I understood that as small as I thought them to be, they are not small but much bigger. It depends on quality. No one has a patent on goodness. And it is not so that we can learn this only from great people. Even today, those who are backward

in the society, standing in the last position, they also have good qualities. Wherever you see good qualities, try to imbibe them. And whatever bad qualities you feel, try to leave them, this will improve your personality. Maharashtra's pride, Nitin Gadkari, sir, thank you. Sir, thank you for this conversation and whatever you are doing for the country, thank you. A lot of people respect you a lot. On behalf of the nation's youth, -I salute you, sir. Thank you. -Thank you Whatever you are doing

for the country, people are noticing. -Thank you. -The internet generation is different. We see everything, sir. And we even read in between the lines. You are a performer. And we are very proud that people like you are sitting in our cabinet. Thank you, sir. -Namaste. -Namaskar. So friends, this was today's episode. I would like to share with you some things of the heart. In the media world, there are old world media and new world media. This was discussed in today's conversation. Old world med

ia presents politics as a fight in front of you. Congress versus BJP versus AAP, triple threat match. New world media, who I am part of I hope it focuses more on the future. I hope it focuses more on governance and administration. This is my whole effort. Honestly, if I say one thing, then from old world media, there are a lot of people who feel bad that a 30-year-old child is getting a chance to talk to such politician. A lot of people say a lot about me too. That no, I am a representative of B

JP. There is nothing like that. This is absolutely not true. I try to present a centrist opinion. What I am from inside, I try to present it outside in front of you, through my words. Please keep following TRS. Tell me how we can further improve such podcasts, I will keep taking your feedback. This political series has just started. This is a very big thing for me that I get a chance to talk to the cabinet ministers of our country. But this podcast has grown because of your support. I am totally

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