Our special guest today is Sheleia Phillips, Founder and Principal Consultant at SMP Nonprofit and The Grant Writing Coach. Sheleia is talking with us about nonprofit grant writing tips for beginners. She covers grant readiness, finding grants, and winning and stewarding nonprofit grants. She has some fantastic grant writing tips for charity and we even chat a bit about ethics in fundraising. If you want to know how to write a grant proposal or want to learn grant writing, check her out!
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our special guest today is Sheleia
Phillips the grant writing coach and she is here to talk to us about nonprofit
grant writing and some tips for beginners now i'm going to leave all of her contact
information below because she is amazing and she also has a free download for you if you go
to our website so with that let's welcome Sheleia well welcome and i would like to start off
by getting an introduction on who you are and what you do because i know you're doing some
amazing things in th
e grants world absolutely hey everybody my name is Sheleia Phillips and i'm the
founder and principal consultant at s p nonprofit consulting pretty much our special jam is helping
non-profits raise more money through grants and sustainable fundraising strategies to date we've
raised about three million dollars in counting for nonprofits all across the country so we're
looking forward to doing much more in the years to come and i'm excited to be here with you today hey
well i'm gonna put all
of your contact information in the description so people want to reach out
to you they can and i'll include your instagram handle because that's where we met yes the grant
writing coach you can find me over at instagram or on linkedin of the same name okay well we can't
really talk about grants without talking about nonprofit grant readiness so do you want to give
us a little intro absolutely so today we're going to do a little bit what i call beginner's guide
to winning grants or just gra
nt writing in general and none of what we'll talk about today makes
sense without making a pit stop and really driving home the point that non-profits should be
grant ready and simply put grant readiness is just your organizations organization's capacity
to find right win and manage grant awards contrary to popular belief and i come across
this a lot especially with newer organizations and they think that the five getting your 501c3
is like the end-all and be-all but when you think about wi
nning grants and just the complexities and
the requirements that go into that entire process it's just one small part of a bigger picture so
being grant ready is the foundational principle that not only do we uphold here at SMP but for all
reputable grant pros they're going to make sure to check your foundation so what does that mean that
means of course checking for your eligibility are you know compliant and up to date in your state
with all of your filings do you file your 990 are you ke
eping up with anything that the IRS
sends you making sure that's up today it's also what we call clarifying your core so what we
call with clarifying your core is checking your mission vision and value statement so
that you're sure about who you are as an organization it's really just your brand identity we look at what do your programs look
like do you have fundable programs do you have programs that are led by and really ground
grounded and centered in community principles and community-b
ased solutions to the issues that
you want to address we look at financials you know things like that just to make sure that your
financial health is in order and then what does your board look like what do you what is your
governance structure making sure that you just have a healthy full picture of how your non-profit
operates who you are what you do all goes into grant readiness and that is extremely important
when it comes to institutional fundraising you know i'm from canada and the sa
me rules apply here
is before we start writing any grants because a lot of ours are government grants and they really
want to know they want to see your financials they want all the program information they want
to know about your board they need all of that information yes yes and i i'm a biologist by trade
so sometimes i pull those principles into writing and if you think about like the cell everything
happens in the nucleus grant readiness can be thought of just as the nucleus of how all
of your
process will work as you expand out rather that foundation grants or corporate grants even into
federal grants all of it goes right down into being grant ready and it just builds upon one
another so i encourage all nonprofits out there to spend some time to do an assessment check what's
going on up under your hood because that may give you some insight into why you may not be winning
the grants that you want or just not winning them consistently yeah now you had mentioned fine
gra
nts and i know that's the number one question is where do you find them okay absolutely so
we've used a couple of different tools but our preferred and favorite tool is instrumental it is
the institutional uh grant research platform that we use here at smp and it's pretty popular here
in the us you can not only find grants that are relevant and match your calls but you can also
do things like project management reporting and grant reporting overall so if you all reach out
to me on social me
dia i have a complimentary quote where you can try it out for free for three weeks
and i would love to share that with you so you can really take a deep dive to see what we see and why
instrumental is really just that preferred tool we have saved somewhere around i think it's
three hours per week using this tool versus others because things can be disjoining when
you're looking at different softwares and google and all of that but since it's all in
one place instrumental saves us a lot of t
ime and with their automations being the millennial
that i am i love automations we get what we call a weekly digest so once you save a project
instrumental automatically sends us a list of updated grant opportunities every monday to you
know review if there's been any deadlines changed if there's been you know any change in the award
amounts we get all of that in real time to not only help us out with our uh grant prospecting
but any reports that we give to clients it just helps us out wit
h those automations yeah we have
we have a couple specific to canada as well which is uh we've got grant watch grant connect a
few of those so i'll probably link some of those in the description and your information so
people can reach out to you for the american ones yes awesome and you know i've used grant
watch before i've also used grant station and they have the international features and
i believe instrumental does too so we can just drop all of those in the chat and let folks kind
o
f peruse and see what's the best fit for them but they're all awesome tools so writing grants
yeah what are your tips on rating grants for us yeah so i guess my number one pro tip and this
ties back to grant readiness is that the clearer that you are as an organization and the work
that you do the easier it is going to be for you to write grants i'm sure folks in the audience
can feel uh have that memory of feeling that that i don't want to call it stress but filling
out a grant application
and there's questions on there that you don't necessarily know because you
haven't taken the time to really develop a full fully blown program or you just haven't taken
time to consider some of the more sophisticated questions that may come on a federal grant or
just a long foundation grant if we're being honest so i encourage all non-profits to before you
go out and really aggressively pursue grants find out what it is that you do right so what
are your program strategies what are the out
comes and the outputs or what's the impact that your
project's going to have in a really clear and succinct fashion and also in a way that is easily
easy to articulate to others so anytime that we're writing we know in our brains like what we want
to say and sometimes that translates out into our writing and we may skip pieces anytime
that you're writing always keep two audiences in mind one you have to be very client-centric so
you're telling their story no one is more equipped to tell the
story no one is more equipped to
tell their stories up for the community so when i think about writing a needs assessment or
writing about the change that we plan to you know really implement i'm really community centric
with this so what are their experiences what have they told us our actual problems and proposed
solutions to you know that need to be funded right and you also have to keep in mind and not so
much yeah just be funder aware is what i call it so that in the individuals who r
eceive your grant
applications they have an ease of readability there so what we call the seven seas of
communications one of those is clarity and clear is kind so make sure that all of your writing is
clear and that only happens when you take a step back and really ask the who what when where why
at all portions of the grant proposal so that you can write easier grants i guess another pro
tip once you've done all of that deep work right we like to use what we call a master
grants library
80 of the grant proposal or the grant proposal process comes
before you ever type a single letter so what we have done to make the process more
efficient and this is especially important now that we're in covid times and it seems
like it's a grant coming out every two days is that we have a library for each of our clients
that we repurpose grant language so you either can refine it of course if there's something that we
may have had a gap or just you know in general we want to enhance some
language or some budgets
that are still relevant that we can submit all of this is important because when that deadline
is fast approaching you want to be able to pull without you know second thought here's where this
information goes or you know maybe we're pulling a narrative from a winning grant proposal
and we want to you know try our shot again so making sure that you have that library
of very standard information of course it's not a traditional just copy and paste and
keep it moving
and it's actually an intentional repurpose of information so that you can
one just really continuously refine your language but also to be efficient in your grants
process because grant writing can be a lot of pool of time energy and resources so the easier
you can make that process for you the better yeah i worked for an organization where there was
a few people that were writing different proposals and it was like pulling teeth to get them to share
the information so we can compile the do
cument and come up with you know what received a yes what
received a no how can we look at it yes and i love having this content library because it really
houses all of your institutional collateral and information and knowledge so in the event like
you said it's hard to pull information from teams because everybody's busy and you know with
everyone working from home it can be challenging it preps you for that but it also preps you in
terms of a long term strategy and sustainability because
folks leave organizations so if i'm a
program director and i get a new job somewhere else if i don't have all of that information
in one place we are at risk of losing it so anytime you can document language attachments
reports you know anything that's related to submitting and managing a grant i would put it
all in one place that could be in a cloud we use google drive but i know some folks they use one
drive or dropbox just make sure you have all of that in one place and organize it in s
uch a
way that if someone leaves or just takes a vacation or a sabbatical you know where to go
to get that information without compromising your uh submission process that is a great tip
because i know from the grant writing i've had to do my career the number one thing i hate is where
they ask for indicators objectives like that kind of stuff and it's like oh that's the most painful
so keep it and repurpose it yeah absolutely and it's not just for grants you know when
i think of repurposi
ng content we hear a lot about that in social media but we need to apply
that to grants so when you talk about impact data right it's not just for the proposal but i can use
that for marketing i can use that for emails and newsletters and just in conversation with folks in
general so i remember early on in my career and i had just started out going to luncheons
with funders or you know sometimes uh with individual donors folks who were on our
our roster for moves management type work it woul
d give me the heebie-jeebies to try and
call off what we've been doing in a way that i could articulate impact so i was like you know
we've been doing great work and they're like well yeah share some of that you know share something
with me i'm like i can't remember the numbers in my head and you know now that we've shifted as a
uh shifted to more community-centric fundraising that hasn't you know the numbers and the data
hasn't been that important or grounded but when i first started out oh
i was so stressed so you know
i just personally because i'm a data nerd i like calling those numbers at top of mind so if i have
it in one place i can always go back and revisit you know what did we do last year you know how
transformative was that grant and we're only able to do that if we collect that data in some form
yeah i'm a data nerd too i feel ya also we're here all right winning and managing
that's another section that uh you said that you covered yes so winning
and managing gran
t i feel can be its own master class like cohort because there
is life after the grant so a lot of times especially if you're a newer organization
or just starting out the excitement and the i guess the special actions kind of just
stopped at the at the award agreement the letter and the check right so you're
just like oh my god we want a grant hooray we got to let everybody know on social media
you know we may or may not unfortunately thank the funder depending on you know what your
capac
ity is for fundraising and cultivation but what i find is equally important and any
grad pro will tell you this is just making sure that your management is up to date so what folks
typically don't connect with grants or contracts grants are really a contractual agreement so
when i talk about having a clear program plan and knowing your what we call knowing your numbers
ie your budgets and just what you're going to do everything that you write in that grant proposal
is then going to be inclu
ded in that contract so one we don't make up programs just to
respond to an rfp that's a huge no-no and we also don't fabricate information because
when we get called back to the carpet by this contract that you're going to sign in order
to you know get the grant award you're legally and ethically more importantly ethically held to
that so grant management is key and when i think about management we can just think about it as
stewardship some institution a grant maker has invested their dol
lars into me i am now held
accountable not you know to the grant maker of course but i'm held accountable to my community
to spend these dollars in a way that i've outlined in this grant proposal and what that looks like
practically in the day-to-day is making sure that you're tracking any revenues attached to
the grant any extra dentures so how much have we spent where did we spend it and what are
the codes attached to it how are we keeping up again with our impact and outcomes data and
h
ow you can do that is attendance sheets if you have any surveys that you're collecting data from
whether that's like pre and post comparisons or just you know post the program that's a good
way and also just keeping up with whatever deadlines and due dates come with reports so
in the example of multi-year grants sometimes you have a report that's due every six months
before the final report so i'm just making sure that one you read your grant agreement through
and through which i would say
40 percent of that you should already know because you put it in your
grant proposal to outline what are the milestones that we agreed to achieve what are the deadlines
and what are the requirements of the funder so that we are managing this grant well yeah
no and i've seen so many organizations try to pound a square peg into a round hole in terms
of the grants and then not following through and kind of using the funds for what they said and
it's so not ethical and yeah just wrong we are wh
en we look at just the grant making
process in general and i talk a lot about being community-centric and being and
operating from an equities perspective and lens when we take the perspective of the fun the
funder is my partner it's a mutual exchange of things going on so they invest of course they have
some accountability on their end by not making reporting burdens of not requiring so much of us
that it's a strain or some type of stress on our staff like that is you know that's natural b
ut
we're also held accountable as an organization to do what we say that we're going to do on behalf
of the community that we plan to serve so i think when we look at all of the different factors
the best way that you can show up is just making sure that you're managing and stewarding
the award well because that then leads to more grant awards and that when we look at that
look at it that way more grand awards mean more people that we can serve and more changes in our
community so it's jus
t our responsibility to do as much as we possibly can to make things make
sure things go well now in real life we know that most things don't always go as planned so
that's where the relational aspect comes in to where i'm calling uh my uh my program director and
saying hey we foresee maybe some challenges with enrollment so does this impact our grant in any
way does this impact future payouts things like that or i've had instances where we're not
going to spend the money by the end date so
what should we do can we extend the grant period
out it's all about being relational it's all about centering community in a way and setting up i
don't want to say setting up your case but really articulating and advocating for your community so
that when things happen and they're at the center it allows for a more open and flexible exchange
between you and your partner grant makers yeah no perfect is there anything else that you
wanted to add anything that we didn't cover that you wanted
to mention so one of my other tips that
i have really grown to know and love folks that are familiar with me know that i got into grants
like literally baptism by fire so a lot of what i learned came from google and the very limited
you know resources that were available at the time so as years have progressed my skill set
has not only changed but it has evolved to do more than just the status quo so one of
my favorite pro tips for uh folks who want to look at grant writing and grant prospe
cting
from an equity standpoint in a community centric standpoint is just start looking beyond what's on
the what i call like the checklist requirements so using grant research and an rfp for
example when we do grant research the tools that we use no matter what platform
will tell you very basic information right it'll tell you when's the due date what are the
eligibility terms what is the geographic focus and you know as grand professionals we tend to
stop there like oh we're qualified th
ey're a good you know a good partner but what i love and
particularly love about instrumental is that it allows me to go on the back end and look for more
things that aren't necessarily visible to the naked eye so when we think about community-centric
practices and embedding that into our everyday operations i not only look at the eligibility
requirements but i also look at how do they uphold the community in the way that they practice
grant making so that could look like do they historical
ly fund organizations that are led
by and they serve people of color do they serve organizations of similar size and scope of
his mind are they open to general operating opportunities or multi-year opportunities and
going back to our previous conversation like what does that reporting look like is it you know
burdensome is it very particular is it you know so burdensome that it's taking away staff time and
capacity just to fill out one grand pro one grant report that may only be for five th
ousand dollars
so i encourage organizations that in your prospect research don't just look at the rfp because that's
gonna it's gonna tell you relevant information but it is limited in some sense also
visit the funders website to see you know what they stand for what are their values you know
is there any evidence of their relationship with past grantees and just you know look take a look
at their history because that will let you know that your values align and that this is really a
true
partner i always share with folks that every grant lead does not always equal grant partner so
taking that process from being a lead someone that hey we identified them i think we align with
their work based on some search terms that is awesome that gets you started but you really have
to take take the thunder that you're looking at through a process and it's not you know hard you
just kind of checks and balances based on what you value as an organization to put them into the
grant partner
pool and thus in your grant strategy well that is fantastic thank you so much for all
of this because i know and maybe it's just me but when i sit down to do a grant i feel overwhelmed
i feel like just it's it can be scary and it's really not it's just a make sure like you
say have all of your pre-planning and your readiness done and everything will flow from
there everything will flow from there and just sometimes the grant process is stressful because
we don't know how to organize it when
you look at grants and just the life cycle of it everyone will
know what works for them so any advice that i give to you all today i as my grandmother would say to
the meat and spit out the bones cool what works for your organization and if there's areas where
you're like oh maybe we need to shift do what works for you grants are not meant to be stressful
but it doesn't mean that they're necessarily oh how should i say this grants
are not meant to always be easy but they can be simple so w
hen we think about
simplicity all that comes through strategy and that comes through you know chiming into episodes
like this to learn from uh rem pros like ourselves to you know see how they can work with
their organization oh no i'm not a grant pro i mean 25 years of fundraising but my thing
my favorite thing is the stewardship part so somebody else go out and get the grant and
then pass it over to me and i'll steward the bajeebers out of them so stewardship is
so important to the grant
making process so just look even by honorable mention you'll be
a grant pro a lot of times i cannot tell you how successful we have been with a grant
because we've stewarded that relationship in the long game since so might have had a
conversation in coffee six months ago and here's the rfp today you know and we end up getting
the grant because now we have an advocate an internal advocate who knows who we are knows what
we do and when they go again or not go against go in front of the board
of trustees or whoever
the review board they're saying yeah i know i know Sheleia of abc foundation they're great
you know i've been keeping up with them going to events and things like that so stewardship
is key and i tell folks pick up the phone to even start that off like just pick up the
phone we're humans people give to people even if the way the solicitation comes is uh
different than individual giving so that's all yeah great advice i think sometimes people are
afraid to pick up th
e phone but when i first the first time i ever saw indicators on a grant
request i'm like what i picked up the movement and that's how i learned and then i was able to have
a laugh with the person on the other end and then of course they remember me yeah you know it's been
really fun while i've been in the consulting seat for about a year and a half now uh right at the
very beginning of the pandemic i was still in a nine to five setting doing grant writing full time
and i can't tell you how
fun it was just to see funders in their home element and seeing
kids and pets and that's for me it took the anxiety i don't want to say completely out
but it was significantly reduced because now i'm like oh this is just another you
know another person and just really seeing them holistically and how they maneuver at
home and even how i maneuver at home i might have you know this this coffee mug is very basic but
i would have fun coffee mugs and that could be conversation starts just to ta
ke the pressure
off so you know i have my x-files coffee mug for years yeah so it's things like
that that just really help you take the label off and see people as people even
and even build a relationship beyond what you know we quote would have on our list so yeah we have
opportunities now and i say the best way to get over that fear is to just do it i had to do it by
the skin of my chin sometimes but i'm much better now and able to navigate conversations than i
was seven years ago when
i first started i used to sweat on the phone like just like sweat
like i don't want to do anything wrong but as i as i evolved as a fundraiser and just a grand
professional it got a lot it got a lot better well thank you again and again we're going
to list all your contact information below and people can hook up with you on instagram
yes i look forward to it i look forward to it
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This was a wonderful interview… Very informative. Thanks ladies 😊
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