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Presenter: Speaker: Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel (GreenInfo Network) Date: 2024-02-23 Description: OpenStreetMap (OSM) is map of the world, like Google Maps, except it is a free, open geographic database updated and maintained by a community of volunteers via collaboration. Vanessa will demonstrate how you can edit data in OSM and be a contributor!

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Naomi Kalman (she/her): Okay, good morning, everybody. And welcome to map time. Davis. Virtual online today. I have the honor of introducing our speaker today. Vanessa comes to us from the green info network, and she's zooming in from Washington, DC. Today. She's here to talk to us about Openstreetmap or Osm. 100, Naomi Kalman (she/her): and she will fill us in about what this amazing tool is, and how to use and edit it. And, Naomi Kalman (she/her): Vanessa, I'm going to let you speak a little m
ore about yourself and hand it over to you. Thank you very much for joining us today. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Yeah. Yeah. I'm the associate director of green. If an hour I've been at Greenfin Network for a couple of years. Now, green. If a network is a nonprofit Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: nonprofit, we help other organizations by making maps for their projects, from Usgs to Audubon to smaller organizations. We really have a wide breadth of support. We do cartography, Gis analysis,
web development, interactive maps. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: web pages, database management data automation and a lot more stuff in between before doing. If I not work. I was a senior map designer at Map Box. Before that I was a cartographer and graphic designer at an environmental nonprofit. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Prior to that I worked in humanitarian aid for usaid, and before that I was in grad school. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So and yeah, I'm gonna Vanessa Knoppke-W
etzel, she/her: teach about open street map and I can start presenting if that works for everybody Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and also adjust my screens. I have 2 screens. I like Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: using one to see people. Okay, can everyone see Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: cool? Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So before diving in while. Obviously, you guys know, I'm going to be talking about Openstreetmap. I'm doing it, and a few different Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/he
r: tiers. First just a general intro, and then I also want to talk about how Openstreetmap is useful and not just dive into making data. Because I think that's really important. Obviously, data is data. But talking about how it's useful and how you can use it, I think, will really help you understand what small edits or large edicts can mean for you and for anyone else using the data. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So openstreetmap, I'm sure many on the call. No, but just in case you don't, it
is it's like the Wikipedia maps. You can look at it online and just kind of see everything in the world just like Google Maps. The difference is that the data is all Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: nonproprietary. It is community created. It is continuously mapped by people. It's mapped by people. You might know. It's mapped by people globally. And it's been a cumulative effort to get all the data on the map. And that's pretty cool. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: We can use it is that we can
access that data. And because it is free and open collaboration, it means that if something needs to be mapped, we can just do it. Instead of just telling Google, like, we want this on the map and having to wait Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: to see if they'll actually add it. And you can download the data yourself and use it yourself. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: so all of those things are great about openstreetmap and they openstreetmap itself has a variety of base maps that they use th
eir standard base map is intentionally designed to try to show as much of the data as possible. It is impossible to show all of the data, and it's also impossible to prioritize different types of data. And that's why they have other base maps. So a lot of people clearly want openstreetmap to have cycling. So that's why it has 2 Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: different cycling base maps. There's also also a transport specific base map which is likely used for like logistics and navigation. I fo
rgot to look up what trace track means, but that's obviously something else that's important, and something that's been important for a long time is. It's support for your humanitarian used cases. And that's why there's a human humanitarian specific base map as well. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And this is, I don't know. I felt like I needed to really highlight like creating a gym and just showing the different base maps instead of just having static imagery, as you can see, like the data c
hanges and the colors change just to reemphasize what pieces of data matter depending on the base map. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And of course, like I said, the base maps exist. But what makes the base maps is the data. So what's also great about Openstreetmap when you just go into Openstreetmap is, you can immediately start looking at the data when you're in there. I'm not gonna fully go into that. But it's really nice, cause it's different than every other mapping service out there. You
can use the sidebar on the right to see what the data is. So if you click map query, you can see Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: what a building is. You can look and see what other data, information and information it has. If someone added when it was created, it's going to show that date. If someone decides to add more than just, it's a building like this one here. It says it's a museum. It says its name. You can really go in there and see that same with if you're like a cyclist and really wa
nt to investigate like the cycling routes, you can see like what the Max speed is in a particular area, same for roads. So that's really nice, because that's something that we can't Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: get on other map services. That level of investigating data. And they also have a data view where if you just click on map data, you can just Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: see all the data at once, even if it's not visible in the base map, it'll show you what's under the surface un
der the hood, I guess. So it's pretty nice as well again. This is all. Just Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: when you go into the website and not like diving into adding in the data. So I would say, that's already useful. But how is it useful to you and to others? I already said, you can pull it into base maps, and that it's free and public use. But really the power of it is the fact that we can access it and use it for so many things, because Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: when we as map make
rs want to use base maps. We don't have as much power in making things look a certain way or pulling in specific data in the base map. If we want to use a Google base map. It's really useful because people are used to using it. But we can't change the data side as much of it. But you can with open street map. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: It's cool, though, because, even though we don't have as much access to it and other spaces, all these other organizations like map box, like Cardo, includi
ng Esri. And I also think Google and Apple use it as well, although they're not gonna highlight as much on their pages they do pull from openstreetmaps. So when you're actively adding data to Openstreetmap, you are affecting base maps that exist in other spaces that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: use like the huge big names in the mapping world. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: This is an example from Cardo, where they created a base map for people to use. And it's all using only open street m
ap data they didn't like add on additional pieces of data. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and, like I mentioned, Openstreetmap has historically been used a lot for good in humanitarian spaces, so much so that there's something called hot Osm, which is humanitarian open stream map, and they utilize open street map to add data into openstreetmap to support humanitarian cases. So once you learn how to create data yourself, you can participate in these Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: mapping sort
of mapathons or needs, and they have a list on their website under this task manager. So you can just add buildings. You can add roads. You can do a lot to help support humanitarian Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: stuff from your computer. And that's really powerful. I used to work in humanitarian aid, and I cannot emphasize how much this helps, even if you spend like only an hour mapping stuff. And one of these Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: tasking tasks under the tasking manager. You're d
oing a lot to support it, and the satellite imagery for these is up to date. Satellite imagery that's donated by satellite. Multiple satellite companies. So just I really wanted to highlight how useful openstream app can be from that. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and it also is useful in other projects. Like this open historical map project is something that green info network is supporting open historical map with where they're mapping the history of data over time. So it's really cool. It'
s another sort of Wikipedia of maps. But it's like the history of data in the world. And that's really nice. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And acreen phone network. We use openstreetmat all the time and base maps to support other projects because it is open source and free. We really like to use it with nonprofits that really prioritize that information. Of community and like having it readily available. We use it. And a lot of our park and environmental sort of conservation sort of maps like
this park info map. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And we've pulled data from Openstreetmap to do analyses. So again, like it's really useful beyond just the base map, because you can use it. And your map analyses as well. So this Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: particular project for youth outdoors. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: we pulled California parks data from a Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: California parks data database that we've helped to create and support. We pulled streets
data from Openstreetmap. And we pulled demographics data from the census. And we created this interactive analysis from Osm allowed us to highlight the visitors of Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: who has access to parks and a visitor shed is is just like a way to frame, like how many people have access to park area. And it's really important. And in in trying to improve Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: societal stuff which is a lot of the sort of mapping we do. And this is a project I'm active
ly working on where I pulled in open stream at building data to help support an organization in Puerto Rico with a map that I'm going to create that highlights, abandoned buildings and derelict buildings that they can. You kind of convert into community use buildings or change into parks. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So again, like the data you're adding into Openstreetmap isn't just useful for a base map. It can be actively used in mapping projects and actively helps a wide variety Vanessa
Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: of projects. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and relative to that. It's good to know how you can get the data, not just how you can add it. Again, I'm not gonna dive into like how you can download this. But Geo fabric and overpass turbo are really popular ways that people gather Osm data. But Osm has an open stream at Wikipedia, and they have a lot more information, and I'll share the slide deck after I'm done talking, so you'll have access to everything in these slides
to you, including the links. So there's even more options beyond that. But those are the 2 most popular ones. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And yeah, with that we can dive into adding and editing data. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: But before you add data, obviously, there are some data quality considerations that you need to think about. Because so many people really do actively use openstreetmap when you're adding data, there's just stuff that you want to be thinking about, which is ju
st like. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: just be intentional about adding quality data. Don't add stuff. If you don't actually know what it is or don't just go in and trace things kind of. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: you know haphazardly, because it does matter. There are some ways that things. There are bugs and ways to report cool things so that people fix it but if you don't actually like wanna add data and just like you can just not do it. And there's also Osm. Wiki has good and best p
ractices for considering when you're contributing. But for the most part it's pretty simple. It really is just like, trace what you see. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Tag what you know, and if you don't know what it is, then just keep it, general, like, if you don't know what a building is, you can just tag it as building period, and you don't have to like add any extra level of detail. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So if anyone is following along in terms of wanting to actively map while
I talk. You can feel free to log in now, and I can give a couple of minutes for folks to create an account. Maybe a minute shouldn't take too long, so I'll just take a break. And I also can leave space for questions while people log in and create an account. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Thank you, Vanessa. I've never ceases to amaze me. How much data and information and how beautiful the Osm maps are whenever you open it up, you think, oh, community. Naomi Kalman (she/her): you know, community contri
buted. And then you look at it like, Wow, it's incredible. So I'm excited about learning more how to add and edit things. So thank you. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Yeah, of course. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and I can. I can just move on to the next slide. People can still be creating their accounts, because the next slide is just saying where I decided we should map Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: today. And I can share this link. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I was going to try
for DC. Cause it's where I live, or Davis, because it's where you live. But both of those have been mapped really. Well, and openstreetmap, so I didn't want to start somewhere that had a lot of data, because then you can't actively follow along. So I went and found someplace that I knew probably had last data Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: which is Con Conceila. And I just chose this because I know it fairly well, cause I'm half Chilean and have been there quite a bit so it it's just like my c
hoice. You're welcome to map wherever you want to map but it is useful for me, because I can always go back and review things since I know the spot. But definitely, if you wanna map anywhere else you're welcome to. It's just like where I used examples. In my in my slide deck. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: again. This is this is showing has some stuff mapped there. But then there's plenty of buildings and many other things that haven't been mapped. So it's a pretty great great place to start
contributing with tracing buildings. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And I did screenshot and Jeff a lot of stuff, cause I've done many live demos and workshops virtually, and sometimes stuff like my Internet just gets slower when doing so. So just flagging. I'll do that, but I can always hop on if people have any specific questions and login and do stuff live as needed. After I present a bunch. So like the basis of all maps. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: not counting raster and imagery. Of
course. The main thing for getting started and creating data is to know that you're either going to be creating points, lines, or areas. And that's really nice. Because openstream app gives you some examples of what this would be so point Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: can be restaurants, monuments, po monuments, postal boxes. It can be bus stops. It can be coffee shops, and then lines are like highways, streets, canals, rivers, and those sorts of things. And then areas can be a lot of differe
nt things. Parks, buildings, lakes. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Just anything. That is an outline of something that is going to encompass, encompass the larger space. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And I like starting with creating a polygon, because I suppose it's the most complex thing. It's still still easy at end of the day. So to create an a polygon, you just like go to all the points in the Polygon that you want to work with, and then you double click to end the polygon ending. It j
ust means that your mouse no longer is creating the line to to go to the next node. So you wanna double click on your final node to just end the polygon. And with that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: you've created your first building. And it's really simple. There's a little more stuff you want to do in order to move on from that. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So you, if you like, need to edit a node if it feels like your node landed in the wrong spot, you can just grab a corner and pull it
over to wherever you'd like it to be. You can do this with any of the nodes in your building. If it has 50 nodes. If it's a really complex building, you could do it to all 50. There's no limit, and you can do it. If you had to log out and log in in the future, you could still edit it in the future as well. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: There's also an undo button in your upper right screen. So if you completely hate a few things that you did. You can go back Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her:
and you can just use control Z, as well. They do have the standard going back keyboard control built in Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: you also can right click and do a lot more. So you can right click and make something into a perfect circle. If if it's a circle that you're tracing on a road or in a garden. You can make things into a perfect square. Wh, which really it's not a perfect square. I guess it. What it's doing is it's making all the angles perfectly 90 degrees. So if it's Vanessa Kn
oppke-Wetzel, she/her: a multi, if it's a complex polygon, like many buildings are. But you want the angles of the corners to be 90 degrees. That's really what it's gonna do. So it's not technically making things perfectly square and there also are other options. So here it says Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: you can move like if you if it's slightly off place, you can use this Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: 4 arrows thing to move it around and then there's just other options that you can ex
plore, like, if you need to shift things around a little bit if you need to. If you made something vertical accidentally, and you can make it move horizontally by using this one or this one Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and the copy feature after you right? Click, I think, is really nice, because in some areas when you're mapping stuff, you might want to copy and paste the same shape. So I zoomed into this location, and Concon which is some kind of industrial something, and all the all the bu
ildings are exactly the same shape. So I started with this one. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I right clicked, I hit copy, and then I moved over to where I wanted it to be placed, and then I right clicked Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and hit, add duplicate, and then I right clicked and use the move feature, and I was able to use the exact same shape and just copy and paste it everywhere. So I didn't have to retrace those notes. And that's really nice. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Othe
r places. You might see. That might be in the suburbs when it happens that developers like use a lot of the same shapes for buildings so that might make things move a little faster. If there's like a lot of road circles in a city. You can copy and paste the same road circles in a city so that can be really useful, or, if like, there's something with similar shapes. You want to copy. Paste the original ship you made. and then edit the notes a little bit. In your new building to match it to your n
ew building. You can do it there, too. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So once you're happy with your tracing. If it feels like it fits your building, or whatever else you're tracing. The next thing you wanna do is select your feature type. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: You also can do this at the start. You don't have to go in and edit the notes first. You can assign feature type whenever you want. I just decided to do to explain. Like everything with editing. First. So there's endless opti
ons. For what a feature type is. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: This is a building. So I selected building. You can be way more specific, as some of these examples show. If this I could assign this nail salon, I could say, it's a hospital. You also can use this. There's search function to look up really specific things like like branded places like Starbucks. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And here is an example of other levels of detail. You can add. So if we're a building, for example, you
know how tall it is. You can add in the height you can add the address in. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: You can add in the name, if the building has a name like, if it's a museum, if it's like this high school here. You can add a lot more information beyond just building. If you know it. If you don't know it again, it's fine to just label it generally and say it's a building, there's no requirement to know more. Any level of detail is great for adding information to Osm. Vanessa Knoppke-Wet
zel, she/her: like, I said, before, you can use a search function to assign really specific level of detail or something more. General. And you can try searching a wide variety of stuff. And here's me for a point feature just showing different examples and with stuff that can have symbology, you'll you may notice that the symbols change as you search for things. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: This is not a Starbucks bench, but I think it just didn't like up update, live quickly enough. But, as
you see, after, when I chose Mcdonald's. It moved to Burger. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: This represents I don't know what anymore, but it'll like cycle out and feel free to like. Try things out and see what things are. But just remember to delete features that you're exploring with like, just make make sure to delete it after. If you're not actually like doing anything with it like this one. I mean, really, that last point in this point that I use as examples. It didn't actually exist in
that capacity there, so I just deleted it after Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I created them. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: so with lines just like with points just like with polygons, you can add them on the map anywhere, and they have different types of information that you can add to them. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: For footpaths and for roads and Maggi many other things. It'll just give you stuff like structure like, what is it? Is it a bridge? Is it a tunnel? Vanessa Knoppke-We
tzel, she/her: And for roads it'll also ask you, what kind of road? Is it? Is it a highway? Does it have a name? Is it one way? What kind of surface does it have? Is it paved? Is it unpaved. So it's really awesome, the level of detail that you can get in this information. And you can see in this map that this data was. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: It does have like a directionality. So for Pete, for folks who use openstreetmap for navigation and pulling it into navigation apps the roads that
have directionality, therefore, can on a map produce Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: pulling in that data, say, like, Hey, this road goes in this direction. If that makes sense. So just to show the level of detail and options that exist. For if and when you know what to add in terms of the attributes. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Yeah. And this is just again showing the wide variety of detail that exists in Openstream App Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: when when you have a lot of informa
tion to add. So after you're done making edits. You obviously want to save the edits when you feel like they're in a good place. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I you can, if you accidentally exit out of your browser and log back in it does save the edits you've done in sort of draft form. It doesn't delete stuff just because of you exit just because you exited out of the browser. So that's really nice. But in order for it to be put into openstream app, you have to upload it. So you go to the u
pper right corner of your screen, where that undo button is into the right of that is a save button. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So that's where you can save everything and what you want to do when you're adding stuff is, make sure to add a change. Set comment. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So for mine, I added. Some buildings in Konkan. But whatever you're doing, just make sure to describe it, cause it's really helpful for anybody that may come back and just want to know if they want to
know what just what got added over time in an area it's nice to see. It's also nice to know in the event like there was an issue, and they want to see what the issue was. And they don't want to delete everything in your data. People at least can. How like, okay, maybe it's just this small thing that's an issue. And we won't touch everything else in the change. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And you can upload data without it being reviewed. But if you feel like it'd be nice. Your first few up
loads to have someone actually review it. You can check. I would like someone to review my edits. So it is nice to have that ability for folks to just know that their data isn't gonna immediately be ingested Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: just to flag that, and you also can add Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: oops. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: You can add tags. And here in the bottom you can look at the changes as well. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So after you hit upload, if you hit
upload, you also can see the changes in Osm, and you can click on this link here. And it also shows you where you made changes. So for me, I added a building here, and I believe somewhere over here was where I like made those copy paste buildings. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: that were was some kind of industrial something. So it's showing me the breadth of where my changes were. I will say that this Osm. Says it will appear within a few minutes, and then goes on to say, it may take longer f
or me. It always takes longer. I don't think I've ever seen it happen in a couple of minutes, I'm sure, somewhere Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: in the world it does happen, but not for me. So just like, have patience, and seeing the changes. I, for example, where I live. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: The morning I was working on this I went to look at where I lived, and I noticed that a few different things around where I lived, including that this piece coffee no longer existence. Now, St
arbucks coffee. So I changed that I saved it 2 h prior to like creating this slide. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And I was annoyed because, like this didn't happen in a couple of minutes like it wasn't updated immediately. But I did use the data function, the data query function and openstreetmap, like the main site to see if I could see the changes in the data, even if the base map wasn't updated and the data itself is updated when I clicked on it, it does say it's a Starbucks. So it's poss
ible the base maps may be. What change Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: takes a little bit longer to change. I'm less clear on that. But I did want to highlight that your data, the data itself Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: may actually be updated in a faster time. And it might be that the base map rendering takes a little longer. So might be waiting a full day. Like, if you really want data in a map that you're using, you might want to just plan ahead to have that show visually in the Osm bas
ed map. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And that kind of leads to editing existing data. What I did was edit existing data. It's really the same process as creating your own data, only the differences you're going in and just adding something to data that already exists. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So you can. Some things you can do, of course, is update data. And that's like update details. You can adjust the polygons. There's probably many other ways you can think of to update it. And fo
r Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: something important to note for Openstreetmap is openstreet app only wants current data. So if you see something that doesn't exist anymore. It is okay to delete it. I did like triple check this, even though I know true, because I still was like, I don't want to delete data. Something about that feels inherently bad. But Openstreetmap does say Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: on their official Wikipedia to to delete Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: nonexistent
features, cause that's the whole point. They want it to be, live in the same way that Google like shows you what's open and what exists, and will delete stuff that doesn't exist, or at least say something is closed like we don't want stuff on Openstreetmap to be shown on the map that doesn't actually exist. So in this particular example, I went to an Alta beauty that I knew doesn't exist anymore. I right clicked on it. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Which this Jeff is doing really fast. And t
hen I hit Delete, and then it just disappeared off the map. And then I saved that, and then hopefully, that'll be updated for Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: anyone who wants to find an ultra where I live. They won't find it at that location. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: because it's not there. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Another thing that you can do, like, I said, Is update attributes. So this particular Kung fu Tibet cafe spot where I live. I knew from having one time gone there at
Apm that it was not Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: closed after 7 0 PM. Like the attribute said so. I was like, this should be updated for whoever else loves bubble tea and might be using openstream app. So I just double checked. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I fact checked the time, just to be sure, in case my memory was terrible and I was right. It did, in fact, close at 9 Pm. So I went in and changed 7 Pm. To 9 Pm. So that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Bubble T. Lovers who use Osm. Ca
n go grab bubble T at 8 30, if they said, Choose but just a reminder to only update on what you know. You can. Fact check like I did with Googling. But if you're not sure it might be better to just make sure you're positive, and then go make an edit later. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: this is just another example of everything I said, editing examples. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And yeah, that's really like the main bit about editing and creating da
ta and Openstreetmap I do want to provide some resources. Openstreetmap, like I said, has its own Wikipedia Page. It's real. It's got a lot of Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: loads of information. They also have their own brig Beginner's Guide. I'm sure their Beginners guide has some more information. Than what I gave, too. If you want to explore that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I recommend checking it out because they have information about the what attributes are. If you really want to
know what specific things are, you can go in and read about it. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: They have a general help page as well. They have some stuff that they probably get asked a whole lot so that you can just go click and read and then they have even more resources. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and they also have other pages like they have an entire info info page about contributing data. So if you really want to know more beyond adding stuff, there's a lot of resources there. And
but you also can do a lot with what I've just told you now. But I just want to say there's just more to learn if you want to learn more. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And finally, if you love adding data to open street map, this is not the only way to add data to Openstreetmap. If you end up getting really into it, and wanting to add, like a lot of data at once, there are more advanced ways to do it, but it is definitely recommended to get to the advanced stage first and not start with bulk u
ploads. Because bulk uploads at the end of the day like in any Gis space. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Require a little bit more time to Qa. Qc. But this is a popular one. It's called Java Osm. And you download it and do a lot of stuff. Not gonna go into that today at all, but wanting to flag that it is not just like interacting with the website to add data, there's way more ways to Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: add data. So with that. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I hope that you have
some happy mapping in Oslo. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Thank you. Thank you for your presentation. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Do you? Do you? Wanna take any questions? Or do you have some time to show us some actual live mapping? Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I can take questions and can also do live mapping. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Does anyone have any questions? Naomi Kalman (she/her): Alright, I have a question. This is about editing and deleting features. I can. You talk a little more if you k
now the Alta is not there anymore. But it's like the physical buildings there, but it changed into something else. Would you? Naomi Kalman (she/her): Then, instead of deleting the feature. Would you edit the tag? Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Yeah, you definitely can edit the tag. That particular one that I edited was like a huge mall. So then I just deleted the point feature. But if it was one building, I absolutely recommend editing the tag itself and changing it to whatever is the latest V
anessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: thing that it is. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Can Osm be imported into Archis or Qgis? Yes, it can. Both Arcgis and Qgis have, I think Qgis has a much better pipeline for Osm data actively. Being pulled in Arcgis. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: perhaps because they want you to use their data. You have to do a few extra steps to do it, but you still can do so. Rjs and Qjis also provide awesome base maps. And not just the data Michele Tobias (she/her): just t
o add my 2 cents on that I often will download Osm data from Geo. Fabric, and then just bring that into Qgis so that I can style it the way I want it, and I can edit it. That's my workflow, but I'm sure there are other ways. And then also the base maps as well, are nice. Just drop in the background to see stuff. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and I can't. So can you say more about the historical map that was shown in light of Osm's focus on Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: live data. Absolutel
y. That is a great question, especially since I went over it so quickly. So open historical map. This is open historical map. It pulls Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: current live data from Osm. But all the historical data is actively stored within open historical map infrastructure. So that open historical map data is not getting Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: piped back into Osm. It is stored within the open historical map infrastructure. But if I go to today and Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she
/her: problem, however long Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: open historical map has existed in the last few years. The present day data Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: in 2,024, and you know, say, 2,014. I'm not sure how long I don't have existed. That probably is largely open street map data, and while open street map will no longer have whatever may have closed in 2,014 open historical map with will have that there are not Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: the same thing, but they do have a r
elationship. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and I can try and speak more to that. If that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: requires more detail. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: how does geofabric work? Does a user export a portion of Osm somehow? Yeah, I can show that. I really like Geo fabric because it is fast. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I'm live. Let's see data Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: downloads. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: This is okay. So Geo fabric. Basically, their f
olks are actively processing and downloading data. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: they will collect data and then provide subregions for download Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and I think I believe with Gfp, you technically can Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: pay them to do more specific stuff. But for the most part, this is good good enough for average used cases. So I really like using Geophabre because of that over past. Turbo has a partial learning
curve where you have to learn some of their the commands in order to download things. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: This open to Puerto Rico. Because this is why I last downloaded stuff. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I don't remember. II typically have to look up how to use this, so I can't do a live demo Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: on it unless you wanna watch me, Googling, to jog my memory. But it also, like once you read how to do it and like, know the specifics of what you want to
pull in? Basically like, what's nice about overpass turbo is, you can flag Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: that you only want to download some types of things instead of all Osm data for a geography. So then, if I, for example, only wanna like this says download industrial buildings in a specific space, then it'll only download that for me. Or if I only want to download Osm roads, if I only want to download Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: rows that are highways, but not residential, and not s
omething something like you can make it a more complex query which allows you to just have a lot smaller of a data set. So that's also why these 2 are really good like, this is great. If you just want to get all the data and then do the querying in arc pro or Qgis. And then this is great. If you want to take the time to pre process the data before you download it. Michele Tobias (she/her): So am I presenting my screen, or did I forget? Was I like doing stuff on my screen? No, we can see your scr
een. II think it's also worth mentioning with Geofreak, if you like. Click on the like North America Link, it'll open up like more sub regions of North America. So you don't have to download all of North America, which would be a lot of data. So if you just want California, or you just want Sacramento. You can kind of narrow down your focus and not have to download everything. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Yes. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: very important to mention. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel
, she/her: I do believe I mean, I remember Puerto Rico. I downloaded. I feel like I Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I mean, it must have been United States. I thought I found one that was just Puerto Rico. But it might have been me doing some more clicking around. If I need historical data. How would I download over older versions of openstream app. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: That is an excellent question. I do not have the answer for that right now. I don't. I'm so open historical map, d
oes that, and they're a separate entity. I can ask my colleagues, who definitely probably have done some of that and get back to you. They're also in theory. There may be people who have also written about that online. The geospatial world is really awesome because Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: people publicly share how they do things which is pretty great Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: when there's a humanitarian crisis? Are the tasks prioritized by the task manager Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel,
she/her: in some smart way that is driven by people on the ground? Or is it just a default sorting of tasks. Yes. typically, they are prioritized, based off of immediate need or dire need. So typically the order and task manager is like that, or or at least Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: based off of when I worked there. I don't think they would have changed that cause they do want people who are just kinda checking in, but not necessarily paying attention to the disasters to just click on wh
at is Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: what has been identified as the thing that meet needs the most stuff. But obviously all the things need stuff. Sometimes some. I don't know if there's like a really, really, really bad earthquake that's probably going to be prioritized over Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: like a mild Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: drought. The drought is still bad, but the earthquake needs like immediate tracing of where buildings are or aren't, and other things to help
with logistical planning Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: details within a single disaster. Single disaster area. Do all roads before buildings? That's a good question, I think. Within it, usually within the tasks they may highlight the pieces Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: that need to be mapped first. Naomi Kalman (she/her): That has been my experience with the task manager that there'll be the things that are urgent are marked urgent. And then once you pick that, it'll say, just focus on bu
ildings, or if they have a focus, it'll usually, and they'll and usually not usually often, there will be a Naomi Kalman (she/her): some sort of intro video, or read more with examples that are specific to this kind of region, because building styles can be different and roads can be different. So they'll give you a lot of information about what the task is about Naomi Kalman (she/her): and and what they want you to do, and some of them are less detailed. And it's all volunteer. So remember that
and just do your best to ask questions. I think there's there's usually Naomi Kalman (she/her): comments and notes when people upload things. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And here's an example of. So this is flagged as urgent. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So they are like indicating here, and I think, like depending on the area getting mapped. If II mean, this could have changed since the last time I was more actually in it. But I think they also sometimes like even flag, like in the sq
uares, like what areas are more urgent via the Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: the visual depiction here. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And they will show like what's been mapped, what hasn't been mapped as well. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So here's a description. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: etc. Naomi Kalman (she/her): So, Vanessa, if you have a few minutes for some live mapping, I have a I have a pretty specific question like in in my hometown, not my hometown. My kids hometown
in the city of Davis. Our elementary school got a total. Naomi Kalman (she/her): totally new building, and the playground got all rearranged and I'd love to update that in Davis. And so this is kind of a there's some new features. There's some things that got moved. Naomi Kalman (she/her): and then there's some Naomi Kalman (she/her): let's see. So if you have to tell you where we're going, so where? If you zoom out just a little bit. Naomi Kalman (she/her): and then okay, see the circular patte
rn in the streets, and that's Poleline Road. If you keep heading north. Naomi Kalman (she/her): And right about that. Yeah. Davis cemetery and then follow the curvy to virtually an elementary school. You can see that. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Hmm. I can't point. I can point on my screen. Keep, go, move the hand a little north Naomi Kalman (she/her): north of the purple line, and then a little to the left. Naomi Kalman (she/her): and then there's a right there. That's the elementary school. Naomi
Kalman (she/her): and if you look at the Naomi Kalman (she/her): satellite. You'll see that instead of a big green square there. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Thank you. Everybody for the okay. So where there was a big green square, you can see, there's a brand new huge building, and they move the basketball courts and a bunch of stuff. So Naomi Kalman (she/her): I'd love to like. I was thinking I'd go on and edit this. Would it be better to say, delete those basketball courts because they're not ther
e, and then draw new ones, and then reshape the things Naomi Kalman (she/her): that have been reshaped is that kind of the idea you kind of. Go in there and fix what you have and delete what isn't there. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I think that I think either either works. I think Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I think that you it depends like what your workflow ideal is like. Maybe like this. I Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: actually can actively select it. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/
her: Well, if it was actually selecting, I could like push it and make it smaller, or maybe have to right click this square Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: disconnect. Oh, okay, this is currently connected to another feature. So I probably have to disconnect it before making some edits. Naomi Kalman (she/her): oh, interesting. Okay. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And they sometimes that happens to make sure stuff is flush. It looks like this is also connected to this road. Vanessa Knoppke-Wet
zel, she/her: A, and that just helps the data be Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: exactly overlapping. I think. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Say, the basketball court. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: You could move everything around if you wanted or you could just completely delete it. I don't think like previous editors would care as long as you're just like mapping what's currently on the map, because at the end of the day, like as long as the data Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: is accu
rate. That's really what matters. I think if there's like any thoughts on people check, I don't want. I don't think people check in on their data that much if they did map stuff. But if they did, people probably would only be annoyed if people like deleted something only to do the exact same Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: square or something. So I think I think it really depends on your workflow, like, if it feels like, it's easy to adjust this to match. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: then t
hat's great. If it seems like it'll be more annoying. And it's much better to like Restart and like. go around and make custom nodes. That might be faster. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Okay, great. So it's a. And at the end of the day the the point is the goal is accuracy, and the current not necessarily preservation of the whole, like mapping history, right? Like the evolution of each feature, like the goal, is to make it look Naomi Kalman (she/her): correct. Naomi Kalman (she/her): cool. Thank you.
Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Loopay. Do people get notified if they're previously previously mapped data as edited by someone else. Not to my knowledge, I think that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: it's the only time I know again. I don't know. I don't know everything, everything. But the only time I know people have been contacted about their data Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: is, if it was, if there's something like really wrong with it that it needed to be deleted, and that they were
like investigating their account cause that does happen like, if, like, people are doing the various things. They will absolutely contact you. To let you know that they're investigating. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And you say more about connections in the context of Heracle structures. The whole school whole areas of school. But it contains 10 buildings, 5 fields. Yeah. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: that's a good question. So Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: oh, I think this is the sch
ool. Yep, so this Polygon is school grounds, and it is not inherently connected to this polygon. Here. Inside of that's a baseball field. So there are. There are separate polygons, and this like Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: this, Polygon, is not data wise inherently connected to Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: the field Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: next to it, I believe I think there, it's just like kind of snapping to the grid, so that if I Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: none of thes
e edits I'm doing are going to be safe. So if I move this node. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: the way that it's connected is that it's moving that. But if you downloaded the data, it's not going to say like, this is a baseball field, for example, or this is a garden having the lines and the notes connected is to allow Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: 2 things that maybe are inherently connected. To move or like Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: this could be like a property boundary so like mo
ving the property boundary in theory, could affect a road. If the road is also going to move alongside the property boundary. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: if that makes sense. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Was that helpful? Naomi Kalman (she/her): Can I follow on that, Vanessa and ask, Is it can you do something like select the Naomi Kalman (she/her): buildings inside the school grounds in Naomi Kalman (she/her): in one like. Naomi Kalman (she/her): if you've got the data, if you're downl
oading data from Osm, can you say I want all the bill I want this school ground and all the buildings inside it. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I think I think that's possible. And over past Turbo, because then you'd be just feeding it like specific attribute information. So in this case it would be like Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: the the window and zoom. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: So so Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: there's this one. So maybe like, this is okay, Birch Lane elem
entary school. So, perhaps Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: making up attributes, if it was like school equals virtually elementary school as the first sort of query, and then a second query. You might be like saying. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: you only want buildings within that area. Then it would give you that so it's just like any other query. But you would have to like Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: know the query path to get the final result. So that'd be good for overpass, turbo o
r like, I'm sure other mechanisms exist as well where you're just pulling the attributes. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Does Geofabric remove any Osm tags like if I want surface type or something specific. do they limit the number of tags included? Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I don't know if I have the answer to that, but I would suspect they don't delete tags because you need tags in order to identify the data, and I think it would probably make Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: users do
wnloading data annoyed. But I can't say that for certain, like it could be that they would have like a limit Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: to level of data to save space. But I don't think that's true. I'm not sure. Like Michelle, have Michele Tobias (she/her): I? Honestly, I think, like I've been working with the roads. Data. Set a lot for some maps that I've been doing. I don't think it includes every possible tag for the roads, but Michele Tobias (she/her): anything that would be common. S
o like it tells you things like, I think, road direction it has. It definitely has, like like road type like, is it residential, is it? You know, highway things like that? Michele Tobias (she/her): so I think it's Michele Tobias (she/her): it's selective, but it's pretty expansive, like, I think, if you know sometimes in Osm. There are tags that are kind of unique to a very specific situation. I don't think you'll get all of those. Because the attribute table would be enormous then, but it it ha
s like the standard things you would expect, for like roads, and I would assume buildings would be similar. Michele Tobias (she/her): So while people are thinking of other questions. I wanna plug. If anyone figures out Michele Tobias (she/her): gets really good with overpass turbo, we should totally do a workshop on that, because every time I've tried to do it. It's Michele Tobias (she/her): It is a a challenge like there's some really specific skills. You need to make that work. So you know, if
folks figure out how to do that well, or find some really good tutorials online, let me know, cause I think it would be a really cool workshop to do here. But that is not in my current skill set. So if you have that skill, we could, we could add that. Michele Tobias (she/her): Alright, Charlie's got a question. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: There is something of the sort. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and I don't remember off the top of my head, but I know it exists. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetze
l, she/her: Also, if anyone else on the call does know that I can show it. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: this is me doing what I would normally do. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: this is probably how I normally look, stuff up. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: normally, there's like a Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: there's a map that you can also look at. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Mess mine up. This, isn't it? Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Yeah. But this is a good example of ho
w you can look up attributes. There is something like that in the open stream, app Wiki. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I just am now, not remembering off the top of my head. Oh, maybe it's tag info. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: It is tag info we got there. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I'm slightly embarrassed like I should know this, but I certainly don't always remember everything that is done. So what's nice about this? So like highway Vanessa K
noppke-Wetzel, she/her: or any other data that has different sorts of things within it. So it's showing how much of different types of stuff exists. So perhaps not shocking, there's a lot more residential data compared to to foot ways, for example, and you also can look at values. And it's showing the same sort of information with a description. And I think, yeah, you can. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: You can change Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: the order of that if you want, for it may m
atter for other values like Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: that may not matter as much for folks looking at roads. So you can use a lot of this information and tag info Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: dot Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: open street, map the board to and look at your data even more. And here Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: it shows how much more it's been mapped over time. So I assume, around here is one open stream app started. So it has continuously built up to 2024. I thi
nk highways, of course, is going to be something that consistently gets mapped. But if it's like a new piece of data or data attribute that gets added into openstream app, or if it's something that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: isn't mapped a lot, but for whatever reason got talked a lot about in the community. It probably would be interesting to look at this, to see how specific instances change over time. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Highway, perhaps, is a terrible example to show you t
he map use case. Here, you can see, how. It's really, truly global that highways exist everywhere. It's I've used this before for some data pieces that Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: are less common. I can't think of an example off the top of my head right now, but it's nice, just if you're like trying to look at Openstreetmap Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: for Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: seen where you should look on the map to find the thing. It's nice to reference this, because then
maybe I'll be like, Okay, there's like 2 red dots here and over here, and I'll go look over there, cause sometimes if you're using openstream app or trying to contribute to openstream app. You want to contribute a specific thing, or you want to pull a specific thing. So then you know what area to go to to pull it. Or if you're a cartographer specifically, you know where to go to that area to see how your visual Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: like end pages. And I don't know if that's what I'm
trying to do. I don't know if that's what I'm going to do. I'll be able to do that. I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do that, I'm not sure if you're going to be able to do it, and then you'll be able to do it, and then you'll be able to do it, and then you'll be able to do it, and then you'll be able to do it, and then you'll see that it's gonna be a little bit different. And that's what I'm looking for. You know what I'm saying. I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to do that, but I d
on't know if you're gonna be able to do it or not. I'm not sure if you're gonna be able to do it Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: projects Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: which are seem to be specific. Osm related projects that are using Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: highways, which probably also are endless. And characters Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: is I. So this probably is Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: something that feels like should have more than just Latin Vanessa Knoppke-We
tzel, she/her: for highways. I know less about this tag. I haven't actually looked at this one much I would have assumed it had more than just Latin Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: for highways, since it's so global. But anyway, that was me talking out loud hopefully, it was helpful. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: And my Googling and finding what I use. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Just so folks know that is. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: maybe a tenth of being a Gis person is knowing
how to Google stuff. Naomi Kalman (she/her): Well, this has been really, really cool, Vanessa, and very informative. And I've used Openstreetmap. And I definitely learned a lot today. Are there any more questions from the floor or Naomi Kalman (she/her): Are we ready to end the recording and let the like, as Michelle likes to stay? Let the dumb questions happen where people feel a little more talk, there's no dumb questions but discovery. That I probably knew once my time to stop on tag info. I
f you're on a particular tag, and you really want this tag. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: there's a wonderfully convenient overpass turbo Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: link here, and you can link it out. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and then it has everything Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: you want to download that stuff so I can run this. So now it's only selected stuff that's tagged as highway Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: and then to download things if you use over. Pass servo
turbo, you just hit download. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I don't know that stuff is or export. And Jason. So for this, I think in the past I've downloaded Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Geojson or Kml. Then I would open it in Qjis to convert it into shape. File, or you can do that also in arc Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: pro. But I feel like my pipeline often, for I'll send this Q. Gis first, but that I didn't. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: That seems important. If anyone Vanessa
Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: wants to download particular data that they find on tag info. Michele Tobias (she/her): I love that because, like I said, I struggle with over past turbos, it seems so useful. And then I look at it, and I don't get it. What I want, because I haven't learned it well yet. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I mean, say, I use over past Turbo, and then I stop using it, and then I forget how to use it. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I don't know how to use it in a complex way
. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: I will. I'll put this on my screen that read, just shared. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Oh, some history, hey? Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Seems real good, cool? Well, this might answer, I don't know who I and oh, yeah, ask the history question, but this might be where? So grab that. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: especially if you can download it. Vanessa Knoppke-Wetzel, she/her: Lotta was helpful. Michele Tobias (she/her): Alright. Well, thank you
so much, Vanessa for this presentation. This is Michele Tobias (she/her): given me a lot more insight into Osm data which I use all the time. But it's nice to to get an intro to the sort of inner workings of it. And yeah, just thank you so much for taking the time to to share with us today. We really appreciate it? Yeah, of course.

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