What in the World is Happening? a show about the
Emergence of Maitreya the World Teacher and the Masters of Wisdom. Today we're going to explore
another aspect of the story the Space Brothers so today's topic is the Science and Spirituality
of UFOs and the Space Brothers and we're happy to have with us author Gerard Aartsen who's recently
written a book called Pioneers of Oneness he's written many other books this is his most recent
and so we get to discuss the this fascinating topic with h
im today my name is Tim Boetskes I'm
broadcasting from Edmonton Alberta Canada and with me as always my good friends Sabina Qureshi also
broadcasting from Edmonton. --Hi Tim, hi everyone. And Cielito Pascual from Seattle. Hi
Cielito. Hey Tim, Sabina and Gerard and welcome everyone. --And of course we have Gerard Aartsen
all the way from Amsterdam. Good evening Gerard. --Hello, thank you for having me. nice to be here. --Okay
great, so before we get into the topic and Gerard's book we're go
ing to discuss
a few of the fundamentals and the resources to give some background information and then we'll
get right to it. If you're interested in some of this material also we do have some resources
you can check out. There's a website share- international.org that's share-international.org.
Also there's some great videos on YouTube on the Share International channel and some
books and downloads on share-ecart.com and so there's some great discussions on
what's called the Ageless Wisd
om teachings. And the Ageless Wisdom teachings are hidden
teachings, esoteric teachings meaning hidden, that have always been around and available to a few
individuals or groups throughout human history and and now as of the turn of the century the, 20th
century, have become more widely known especially in the west through the writings of Helena
Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Helena Roerich, and most recently Benjamin Creme and we'll talk about them
as well and we'll also talk about the Constitut
ion of Man here just to give you some background
information as we delve into this topic as well. So here on the slide we see
Soul, spirit, and matter, the vehicle. So this is our essential constitution. We are
all Souls in incarnation, Divine spark of God if you will and it's a merging of spirit and
matter into a physical body, an astral body, and a mental body. So when we talk about some of these
experiences in today's show some of them might be working in through different layers of these
bodies, the astral body or the mental body. --And one of the things that we like to talk about
is the fact that although we see ourselves as the personality and the physical body the Ageless
Wisdom teaching emphasizes that it's the soul that's our true self that's our real identity and
so part of the process of the evolution of our consciousness is for us to begin to identify more
and more with ourselves as a soul in incarnation and the writers whose whose work we reference
in this show i
n the next slide we see these four people of course there are others as well
but these are the main authors that we turn to Helena Blavatsky, Alice Bailey, Helena Roerich,
and most recently Benjamin Creme and you can find their writings online in bookstores and if you
go to the website that we showed earlier you can find a lot of information that Benjamin Creme
gave out and also all of his books are there. So do go ahead it's extremely interesting
and rewarding seeing ourselves as a soul in i
ncarnation means that we immediately realize
that we don't just live once but we live many many times the concept of reincarnation and that
brings into play the concept of Karma as well, as you sow so shall you reap and the Ageless Wisdom
teachings also tell us that in the process of evolving our consciousness at a certain point we
will reach a type of mastery over ourselves over all of our bodies and those who have gone ahead
of us and have already reached that point we call them Masters o
f Wisdom. They have Mastery over
themselves and one of the main topics that we bring up in our shows is how at this moment
in time with a transition between two great ages the age of Pisces and the age of Aquarius
with the change of energies there is all also another law that comes into play the law of cyclic
return meaning that there is always a teacher who comes at the time of change between ages to help
Humanity in that transition and so our information is that the teacher this time is c
oming not only
himself but also with an entire group of his colleagues the Masters of Wisdom because this
great teacher is one of the Masters of wisdom and it's an amazing event to be
witness to to be alive for at this time this is a great time and in regards to
the changing of Ages we can see in the world a lot of transition happening it's
very difficult and challenging time there's also great opportunities at this time as Sabina
said there are Masters of Wisdom who are now on the physica
l plane in the world and we are
also in the middle of a change of two great ages so every few thousand years or so we get into
energetic alignment with a different constellation of the zodiac and these great Cosmic energies
transmit onto the planet and they help shape our structures political economic and social and so
on and so we're stepping from the age of Pisces into Aquarius and so all of our structures
are undergoing a change in energetic support if you will Pisces offered us over the
last few
thousand years the energies of individuality so that we could move out of the herd mentality
and from being unconscious sheeple to strong individuals that could with qualities to offer
and then from Pisces we switched to Aquarius which is individuals with these qualities working as
a group so going from just the individual to the group we're bringing in group energy and the
idea of unity and diversity and that we're all one also in Pisces we have the energy of idealism
where we se
t these high standards and ideals but Aquarius brings them into manifestation it
synthesizes and brings these ideals for example the ideal of Human Rights and right human
relations into something that we're manifesting so you see a lot of that in the world people fighting
out in the streets for justice racial justice social justice and so on so they want to manifest
these ideals in their the energies of Aquarius are supporting that the younger generation have really
got that energy focused
and they're working very well in the world right now towards change and so
we also have those that are trying to hold on to the old ways old ways of Pisces and trying to slow
that process down as well so this creates a lot of the tension that we see in the world right now and
so it brings in the Masters of wisdom to help with these changes they're fully aware of of all of
this as well as the Space Brothers because right now is a cosmic event we have humanity's
ready for it in our growth of c
onsciousness there's the change of Ages and it is a cosmic
event so like Sabina is saying the Masters of Wisdom are in the physical plane for the first
time in 98 000 years they've always been around inspiring Humanity but now they're in the world
along with Maitreya the World Teacher who is the Master of Masters again when we
say Masters we don't mean Masters over anybody these are individuals who have mastered
themselves and evolved out of the Human family we can consider them as loving E
lder Brothers
that demonstrate perfect love and wisdom and they have a set of priorities knowing all the
ups and downs of humanity they know exactly what we're going through what energies are at work
and they do coordinate and work with the Space Brothers Maitreya's Mission we have a quote
here from Him about sharing which is key to resolving the problems that we're facing now
sharing the resources of the world on a global scale there are lots of individuals that have
these plans in place
we just need to implement them and bring the will to make this happen
and His quote is "without sharing there can be no justice without Justice there can be
no peace without peace there can be no future" now that's a powerful quote indeed it sums up
so much right there and as we now move into talking with Gerard about his book the title
of his recent book is Pioneers of Oneness and this this word Oneness is about unity and so
you can see that the concept of sharing is based on this idea th
at we are together we're
one so we can't leave anybody out Gerard has worked with the network of volunteers of
which we're members for many years we see here a picture of him translating for Benjamin
Creme at a conference some time ago and so Gerard you have been part of this work
of making known the news about Maitreya and the Masters of Wisdom for quite some time and
then you began to branch out into writing about our visitors from other planets other places how
did that begin for you w
hat what led you to that what level yes I remember yes indeed I've
been around for a while I've that photograph you just showed with me translating
for Benjamin Creme was taken in 1982 during his national talk here
in Amsterdam and you have on the screen I see the title of my first website which I
published in 2008 Our Elder Brothers Return and that is a website where I've compiled an
annotated catalog of teachings as confirmed by DK, the Master Djwal Khul through Alice
Bailey, by Benjamin
Creme's Master and of course those are the Wisdom teachings
that you guys have just given the outline for and it's actually you know
it's not hidden anymore they used to be hidden and since the work
of Blavatsky they've gradually been reinstated in in the modern world available
for anyone who's ready and willing to to dive into them and study them and and apply them to
their own lives and my interest I've always been interested in flying saucers and contactees but I never really had the tim
e to do much about it and then I learned about what everybody
thought at the time was George Adamski's first book wisdom is it wisdom of the masses the
yes Wisdom of the Masters of the Far East in 1936. and I was so surprised to find that the
title and it had been reprinted a few times and that's when I started looking into
his work more closely and of course as his books about contacts sightings and
contacts with flying saucers and people from the flying sources stem from the 1950s his
fi
rst Contact was documented in November 1952 and when I re-read his book Inside the Spaceships
the teachings that he received from what he called Masters from other planets the Masters from
from Saturn and from Venus specifically was so it's so much in alignment with and in
agreement with the teachings that we know through Benjamin Creme Alice Bailey and Helena Blavatsky that I wanted to know more and I started studying his books more
and of course I was fortunate enough to find a copy of Wis
dom of the Masters of the Far East
and I looked into some other cases of contact specifically Giorgio Dibitonto an
Italian contactee and some other of the American contactees there was a whole
group of people especially of course in the United States and I say of course because
those are the best known especially in North America but it happened all over the world
it happened in South America it happened in Europe and it happened in other parts in South
Africa that I know of flying saucers w
ere reported in China in 1947 when the Roswell crash
happened so it was happening all over the world and in 2008 I believe I published my
first article about the similarities between the teachings the Ageless Wisdom teachings as we
know them and the teachings from space through George Adamski and the other contactees
so that's really where it started for me I have a question Gerard, for our audience
not that familiar-- I've read three of your books-- I'm always stunned that there
is informa
tion out there accessible to anyone but little known about a contactee between space
brothers and one of us Earth people over time we think that they just you know at the most
they land in a farm somewhere and and maybe people witness it until five in the morning but you
touched on it there. Can you talk about some of the more remarkable contactee experiences
that occurred over a period of time and with multiple, you know large numbers of people
well of course the the the most important con
tact story I believe is that of George
Adamski in his first contact happened in the in the presence of six witnesses even
though they were at a slight distance from from the actual saucer where
one of the occupant occupants stepped out and talked to Adamski who had
walked up to the spot and later on you know his contacts continued over
many many years actually until his death and several others several
other people have been witness to those contacts as well although the
majority of the c
ontacts were with him by himself taken up in in saucers
and going on motherships but the the Italian contactee I mentioned, Giorgio
Dibitanto, he started having dreams in 1980 and eventually he figured out the dreams
were telling him to go to a certain spot in the nearby forest and at one point in time in
1980 he took two or three of his friends to to check out that spot and they were contacted
there so there was a group of people and at first the contacts were just with people having steppe
d
out of the spaceships and the initial acquaintance I believe that happened a few times until
the whole party was invited on board and received teachings and blessings and and
and the teachings were very much in line again with the Ageless Wisdom teachings and one of
the remarkable things in that case was that I believe it was on the first or one
of the early meetings with these people from the spaceship were with the same people that
George Adamski had described and met in 1953 on his jo
urneys on motherships Georgia Adamski
had recurring contacts with people from Venus Mars and Saturn and he had given them
names not their real names because they apparently they don't use names on their planets
personal names but when these were introduced to Giorgio Dibitonto he recognized them and
then he was finally introduced to someone else and who was introduced as your namesake he was
known as George when he lived on your planet and and he didn't say he didn't speak
himself this bei
ng who used to live on earth as George Adamski but he was described
as a very very friendly and and quite quite familiar with you know a lot of
information. --So George Adamski passed away in 1965? In 1965. --And so he reappeared in this
experience with the Italian in 1980? with his colleagues who he had been in contact with
and and Georgia Adamski I think he was of Polish heritage but he lived primarily in California
is that correct? Yes he moved with his family to the United States at ar
ound age
four or five so he lived in America his whole life his entire life and
he moved to California around 1920 -26, -27, -28 around that time. --Again for those who are new to this information and have never heard about George Adamski before why don't we just make a distinction
between the disinformation or misinformation in connection to contactees.
Oftentimes we hear about UFOs and in our minds we just lump it all together as being one
thing and that's happening but there's major dist
inctions. What would you want the
audience today to to understand about the difference between Adamski's experiences
and many other reported UFO contacts? Well we had George Adamski in America
we had Daniel Fry, Truman Bethurum and Orfeo Angelucci, and several others who were
all contacted in the early 1950s and very often they were contacted on more than one occasion
and asked to share their story with the people through writing about it or speaking about
it which these people did. This t
ook place in the 1950s as I mentioned which is when the
Western Nations led by the United States and the East bloc led by the Soviet Union were
engaged in a war of ideologies, the Cold War, and I think it is significant
and it's the reason, partly the reason why there was such intense
attempts to contact people and inform the world about the existence and presence
of these Brothers and Sisters from space because we lived on here on Earth
under the threat of nuclear annihilation and of cour
se the misguided attempts
of our governments to stave off the perceived totalitarianism of the Soviet Union and
vice versa the perceived injustice in in Western Nations on the part of the Soviet
Union you know it required huge expenses in terms of armaments and and nuclear weapons that
had just of course been invented in the 1940s and there was an enormous build up and that
required public consent and public support to spend that much money. In order to
not lose that support it was importa
nt that people were not lending their
ears to messages of peace and Brotherhood that these Space Brothers and Sisters were
bringing through the contactees. So there were you know all kinds of misinformation was
let loose on these people of course we had the Roswell incident the crash
in Roswell according to Benjamin Creme that was a sacrifice on the part of the Space Brothers to
give our military and scientists some materials to research and investigate and
tell them let them know you know
we're real we're here there were even some bodies involved
of extraterrestrial occupants of the saucers and that was all covered up.
I just read about a new three-part documentary series on the History Channel upcoming about this Roswell crash and so that was all covered up and
then these contactees started coming out with their stories about having been
contacted by people from other planets. And you know there was a fair
amount of interest among people because we were living in fear. Hum
anity was living in
fear of nuclear destruction and if not nuclear destruction, occupation by you know the Reds
so governments needed the continued support of the public and I believe that was one of
the reasons why a lot of misinformation related disinformation was let loose to confuse the whole
field and to scare people about the aliens so that is where I believe the story
and the information of the contactees was deliberately muddled
up and and ridiculed and denounced. And of course our
science wasn't really helping
because our first space probes were sending in data about the surface of Mars or
Venus and there were no signs of Life there which of course is understandable
if you know that life is universal and doesn't really depend on
a carbon-based physical dense physical body. So in fact when you talk about that not
depending on a dense physical carbon body that leads into what we want to talk about next
the different planes of matter because what you're essentially say
ing is that although on the
perspective of the solid physical plane of matter nothing is visible for example on the surface of
Mars or Venus there in fact is life there can you explain that to us? Yes according to the
teachings life is universal it's not an accident in the backwaters of the Milky Way that we have
life here what we call life in dense physical manifestation people walking the face of the Earth
for birds flying in the in the sky and and fish swimming in the sea but life is rea
lly the
essence of the universe that's where it begins and it manifests on many many different levels
According to the teachings the Milky Way is a living being, the solar system is a living being,
and the planet, planet Earth each of the planets are living beings so life sort of descends
and descends into, involves itself into a matter of one vibration or another
and on our planet it has involved itself on the densest level of physicality as the
teachings tell us and as our experience tel
ls us and on other planets it may have not gone
lower than for instance the etheric planes of matter or it has evolved back up to the
etheric planes of matter if it was on the dense physical planes maybe thousands or
millions of years ago, so it's a matter of life manifesting itself through the the
planes cosmic planes that we cannot know anything about just because our awareness our
consciousness has not evolved to that point yet and the interesting thing is what I find in
my research now
is that science, just mainstream science is going in the same direction, is
coming closer to acknowledging the fact that there must be more to life than what we can actually
observe and see in empirical terms. Astrophysics has been saying for many years now that 96 percent of
the universe they can't pinpoint it they can't they know based on the calculations of the mass
of the universe they know there must be a lot more mass than we can see through you
know all kinds of astronomical and ast
rophysical observations not even just you know
through telescopes and probes but through infrared cameras and telescopes and
things like that so there must be much much more to the universe
than we at our level can observe. So are you saying essentially that there is more
in the universe than we right now are capable of of perceiving like are our instruments,
our measurements just don't perceive it? Exactly. The universe is a living being, space is a living being. If you look beyond mainstre
am science and what is called post-materialist science which
is gaining a lot of traction these days it recognizes that matter is not the
basic building block of the Universe Matter actually doesn't exist according to
post-materialist science and even quite a few mainstream
scientists you know Max Planck and other famous scientists have
concluded even though they can't prove it that matter is not as solid as we experience it
and in post-materialist science the general idea now is that cons
ciousness lies at the foundation of
matter and our experience of the physical world so that's where we come very close to the
Wisdom teachings which says that there's this absolute, you know religious
people would call it God the space people often refer to it as
the Infinite Father that projects an idea into space with a masculine and a feminine energy
which at one point meet and creation takes place and of course this takes I don't know how long
billions of years the universe or the Milky
Way I believe no our universe according
to astrophysicists is 4.7 billion years old I believe the Big Bang happened 4.7 billion billion
years ago so it takes ages from our perspective but these cycles of
creation and evolution have brought forth this enormous, I
don't know if you've ever looked at the recent photographs from the Hubble telescope they
are so beautiful they are so evocative in terms of you know the different lights
and the shapes that we continue to find throughout the
Univ
erse and beyond our, well I can't say beyond our own universe, but it is so unbelievably
large that it would be arrogant of us to say life you know if we can see it then it's
life and if we can't see it doesn't exist and unfortunately more and more scientists are
coming to that conclusion and the interesting thing that I have documented in my new book
especially is that you know the forefront of science nowadays is coming closer and closer
to the postulates of the Wisdom Teachings that were
first reintroduced to the World by Madame
Blavatsky. I juxtapose various quotations from Blavatsky's work with quotations from scientists
such as Hungarian Professor Ervin Laszlo and a German Professor Harald Walach who made an
extensive study recently about the nature of reality and their conclusion is that reality
really is Oneness, everything is one. You know we we often say so either we're all one you
know that's why we need to share but it's an actual fact and science is now on the ver
ge of
proving it with many many scientists in theory having come to that conclusion and we're
getting closer and closer to being able to prove it right mathematically. --Gerard, I'm curious
you know physics has been around for as long as it's been around and yet what do you think is
changing today that more and more scientists are supporting this idea which is still
a hypothesis, they're delving into it, that Consciousness is more fundamental than
matter. What do you think the change has b
een? Well the change I think is twofold. On
one hand of course we have the new energies coming in from Aquarius as you pointed
out in the beginning of your presentation which imbues the whole planet with new ideas
and changes our view of life even if we're not aware of it and people who are open to
it like many many scientists and people active in other fields are beginning to be more open
to looking in different directions and that's what I've tried to document in my book and of
course sy
stem science on the other hand, it's actually perhaps a result, an early result of
those new energies. It was first proposed in the 1950s, and also we had contactees in the
1950s, we had the Cold War in the 1950s trying to denounce and ridicule the contactees but the system
science was also first proposed and and set up in a way in the 1950s as a interdisciplinary way
of looking at findings from different scientific disciplines, different scientific avenues including
quantum theory for inst
ance so even though for many it may still be a theory based on
what we know at the quantum level of existence it is very much considered
a reality that, you know, we're all interconnected everything is interconnected not just us people
as one human race on this planet but actual literal Oneness in the interconnectedness
and thereby interdependence. Let's bring it back to, oh go ahead Sabina. --Well
it was this: what you were saying was reminding me of one of the things that Benjamin Creme ha
s
said about how every atom is interconnected with every other atom in the universe and the first
time I heard that, on an intuitive level it makes sense, but then when my mind tries to think about
it and understand it I get stuck, I can't figure out how that can possibly be true. --Yes and I've struggled with that myself but the more you go into it and study all
the different approaches that come to the same conclusion, the more of
a reality it becomes. --Yeah and I guess one of the things
I noticed reading your book was the
description of how it's consciousness through consciousness it goes in a different, I don't
know if direction is the right word or plane, but that the connection between everything
is that you can access that through consciousness so it's like a different dimension or a
different access or something through which to discover that and that seemed to be also
what for example this this scientist Ervin Laszlo was talking about when he describes
consciousnes
s as being fundamental and so that's also fascinating to think about in terms of
when and how will our scientists be able to perceive consciousness in a way that they would
consider an objective fact or something that they can prove somehow. --Well, maybe shy of
proving many are already there. They are already accepting and working on the premise that
consciousness is at the basis of our lives of our reality and understanding life, and I think
this is crucial, understanding life if when we
realize that understanding life is
really a matter of understanding the expansion of our awareness of life and
then we can see that it is the evolution of consciousness that life is all about
and as consciousness first involves itself and then evolves and in the case of
the Human Kingdom evolves into the the next kingdom in nature, the Spiritual Kingdom the
Hierarchy of Masters and beyond, then you know we're beginning to see things more in a cyclical
manner, we see cycles of involution a
nd evolution and that brings us closer to
an understanding of how everything is connected and one and the quote you just brought up
from Ervin Laszlo, the striking thing is that in what was really his first book,
The Invisible Ocean, George Adamski wrote in exactly the same terms in 1932. So before he's
acknowledged space contacts he was teaching about consciousness and we're actually living,
we don't see it Benjamin Creme you just quoted him Sabina but it's also said we live in an
energetic
universe you know and that's also a very much accepted scientific postulate. We
live in an energetic universe and this energy that's really again a manifestation of
this consciousness so you know and George Adamski was he's quite brilliant if you
ask me in terms of explaining rather intricate complex matters in the simplest terms and
he compared the reality of life to an invisible ocean where the different strata of pressure
allows for different manifestations of life so he says at the bot
tom of the ocean the fish are
used to the high pressure and they can't really go up very much so they can't see what's beyond
their particular stratum of pressure and so he's he was really really way ahead of his
time and teaching about consciousness I believe --that's a great yeah that's a great metaphor.
I want to bring it back to the activity of the UFOs and the Space Brothers. We've been
talking about consciousness and how scientists are more and more recognizing the
fundamental aspect
of consciousness more primary than matter so let's connect it back to UFO
activity we're seeing it seems to be increased activity of UFOs you've been talking about these
extensive communications from Space Brothers with earth-based people we're talking about the
different levels of the etheric planes and how life manifests on these different levels
and one level may not be aware of the other level so what are the Space Brothers telling the
contactees? What's been the common message? --The c
ommon thread in the message is
humanity is One and we need to manifest that Oneness in a brotherly approach to living together
sharing these planets and making sure that we don't destroy the planet. That was
the main point of the communications. I've delved a bit deeper and I've also come
to find in the case of several contactees George Adamski, Giorgio Dibitanto, also a very little
known Finnish American contactee Margit Mustafa, is that her name, yeah I think yeah Mustafa
and a French co
ntactee who is not known in the English-speaking world Pierre Monnet
they in so many words sometimes not in so many words were given the notion that you
know they are here, the Space Brothers are here because this is a particularly
significant time in human history, the time between
the transition between those two ages and the return of a Teacher for the New Age
as you explained in the beginning of the program every Age is inaugurated by a member of the
Spiritual Kingdom and the Teacher for
for that particular Age and --So they're very aware --This time is no different and one of the reasons for their presence here is to
support that Emergence of the new Teacher and this is also of course what Benjamin
Creme has said about their presence. --And so they are very aware of what's happening here and
why should they be aware and concerned? What's their connection to Earth? ---Well, you know
the idea is Oneness, the solar system is one we are only one planet and not a very advanced
planet in the solar system and they want to make sure that without forcing themselves on
us or forcing us to do anything that we do not willingly want to do but they're trying to
help us realize that we are One and to act on that realization and to manifest that Oneness
so that we can take the next step as a planet and as a human race and join rejoin our brothers
and sisters on the other planets and help in that sense the evolution of the solar system
even though that sounds grandiose but y
ou know we have to face the facts you know we're one solar system we are one planet and and you know yes Humanity could decide
through its separatism and its competition and its strive to destroy itself but the Space
Brothers and Sisters will not allow us and the the beings ensouling the planets and the solar
system will not allow us to destroy the planet because that would upset the balance in the
solar system. --That's extremely reassuring. --Yeah well you know even if we somehow manage to
destroy ourselves and we're well on on our way to doing that with the destruction of the natural
world on this planet, we are setting back you know, even if the planet remains intact, we
are setting back the evolution of Humanity on this planet from by millions of years perhaps
so it's still not good a good thing to happen. But you know the fact that the Teacher is here
Maitreya the World Teacher is in the world since 1977, 14 of the Masters of wisdom are in the
world the Space Brothers ar
e here, have always been here of course, but increasingly some since
the 1950s that should give us reason for hope and and inspire us to do the best
we can to bring around enough people to to cooperate and instigate
the need, make enough people aware of the need to share the natural
resources, the food, the technological know-how, etcetera so that we can take the next step inspired
and supported by our Elder Brothers the Masters of Wisdom and the Space Brothers and Sisters.
--Gerard there's
a question from an audience member: At what level of our evolution or our
consciousness can we develop etheric vision? I'm not sure what the answer to that is, do you
know? --Well I I can't give a exact answer of course I'm not a Master of Wisdom I'm not in contact
with the Master of Wisdom as far as I'm aware but I do remember what the Master DK and Benjamin
Creme have said about that in general terms and that it's not so much to do with a
particular level of evolution, point in evolution
but more to do with your own particular makeup
you know. You may be born in a body that is particularly sensitive to one or other
of the etheric planes of matter and that would give you etheric vision even
if you're not really very far advanced so it's not necessarily a sign of enormous
progress if you have etheric vision. Interesting Gerard this is just absolutely
fascinating I want to bring it to some recent news major news in terms of UFOs
uh across newswires it was reported that forme
r director of the Israeli space agency
his name is haima shed is speaking openly about UFOs and their interaction with
governments can you comment on that it reminded me very much of a statement made
by the former deputy director of the Bulgarian Space Research Center Lachezar Filipov
in 2009 who also made the news big headlines at the time saying that in the terms
of the media at the time the aliens are here and they're watching us all the time and they
they they won't contact us directly
because we're not evolved far enough and I thought I found the
statements from Haim Eshed very similar to those statements I've read a few some of the Articles
reporting on on the statements made by this head of was he head of the security
space space Security Agency yes and some of the information there I believe
is it's either warped by the journalist or but partly tainted by this information but the
the essence and and that's that's really also how I how I work how I do my research you k
now you
have to look for the similarities don't focus on the details because the details will will differ
depending on people's understanding or people's access to information or people's access to
this information that they're not aware of that it's this information so if you focus on
the on the similarities in all the different sources and then a very interesting picture
emerges which I think you know it's just another confirmation this latest headline
of something that's been known for
a long time I've you know I've put out a video in 2015
video compilation of 13 officials and dignitaries over the decades stating positively that you
know the extraterrestrials are here and that there is contact and you know so many scientists and
militaries and government officials know about it it's really it's really not news that's the fun
thing you know it's really not news it's just and and the the problem is really with the media not
making the connection between one statement now 1
1 years ago and this statement you know they see
everything in isolation and that's what I try to break through in my new book bring it
together synthesize the information that we do have and a completely new picture and
huge picture emerges of of life and reality do you think we're talking to Gerard
arts and he's the author of Pioneers of Oneness: the Science and Spirituality of
UFOs and the Space Brothers and we hope you'll join us again next week Gerard will you
be able to do that yes a
bsolutely wonderful I wanted to ask you even if we have all this
information even if it's it's on it's even if the information is coming out in its purest
most undistorted form even if lots of people are talking about it including you know high
officials can do you see the possibility or how do you see the possibility of this message actually
registering becoming a reality like taking hold what do you think needs to happen for this message
of Oneness to actually take a hold in the world wel
l of course obviously you know the only way
this will happen is by Maitreya the World Teacher stepping forward and acknowledging well first of
all declaring who he is and what his mission is and when it happens as I'm sure you've discussed
before on program on the Day of Declaration he will telepathically overshadow all of humanity to
to bring his message to individually through telepathy speak to every single one of us and at
the same time his his energy of love from which he is of which h
e is the embodiment on our planet
will stream out in such potency that Benjamin Creme has said it will feel as if He embraces us
physically that will be the time the moment when for most people they you know the
coin will drop and and the realization will come wait this is this is real and now I have to
do something and Benjamin Creme has also said that Maitreya will and the Masters will confirm the reality
of the Brothers and Sisters from space and their presence on Earth and their unrelen
ting work
on behalf of humanity in keeping the planet intact and so I think that's that is the only thing
that will that will confirm it for people and make it a reality at least for you know a critical mass
of humanity and yeah when will that happen it depends on I suppose Humanity being desperate
enough to be open to his message of of Oneness and and love and and Brotherhood you
know Justice and freedom for for everyone because Oneness if if we don't we can we can you know
meditate and a
nd feel one with the universe but if we don't do anything about it if we then going
to a road rage because somebody cuts us in traffic doesn't mean that you can never you know you
wouldn't we would never get mad again but um we have to we have to make sure that our
systems our structures political economic educational reflect that awareness
of Oneness unless unless we work for that unless we Advocate that we Manifest this
Oneness in terms of unity express our awareness experience to some de
gree of Oneness in
unity to to ensure that everybody on this planet has enough to eat as as a safe shelter and
education and Healthcare it doesn't need anything well in Gerard when you say that I'm thinking of
the people who are on the streets in growing numbers calling for this type of Oneness for
transparency for justice and one of the quotes in your book that I that I really liked was the mention that Unity is not the same thing as uniformity because very often when people
hear the word
Unity they fear some type of imposition of a uniform way of thinking or being
but really that's not the case and when you look at these large numbers of people on the streets
in many countries around the world calling for transparency for a fair distribution of resources
you see an infinite variety of people of types of people but they're all calling for the same thing
each in their own way and and that to me seems like a very good way to relate to Unity and and
the fact that we have to cal
l for it to be made real in our structures as you say that's the
only way very much so yes you know Unity is the national order as science agrees with the
Ageless Wisdom teachings and the contactees tell us and even if you look at the at the central
tenants in in religion you know you'll find that that notion of uniformity goes against the
national order because the national order has the richest possible diversity in the
Human Kingdom, in the Vegetable Kingdom, every every imaginable Kingd
om so even among star systems you
know there's not one there's not two identical galaxies photographed yet you know there's
only diversity so we have to make the distinction Unity yes because that is literally the
the state of reality the reality of life except we are not expressing it we're
not manifesting it in our in our structures in the world at the moment but striving to do that
doesn't mean uniformity because every country will have its own way of of implementing the principles
of f
reedom and Justice and and that is how it should be yeah that makes sense absolutely well
I think maybe this is the moment to move to our next section which is the meditation I wanted
to ask really quickly Gerard you mentioned a video is that found on your website it is on my website
but you have to scroll back to some posts maybe our technical --It should be on
YouTube and on Vimeo in a video it's called Let's End the UFO ET Disclosure Nonsense!
--Great. So hopefully our tech guru behind th
e scenes can find that really quick and post
it in the zoom chat and the Facebook chat if our listeners are are curious about
that or they can search for it themselves but thank you so much for all all your work
Gerard and we look forward to continuing this really really fascinating conversation
I can tell our audience on Facebook and zoom they're all in wrapped attention
and because our numbers are holding and they're high so really appreciate you being
able to interpret a lot of complex
information and correlate it with with some fundamental
teachings from the Ageless wisdom thank you very much for having me and I'll be very happy
to join you again next week. --Wonderful thank you.
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