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Quantum Inertia Drive put to Test. It didn't go as planned.

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Sabine Hossenfelder

2 weeks ago

the Quantum Drive a controversial new propulsion system based on the idea of quantized inertia was launched into space for a test in November testing was supposed to start early February but it didn't quite go as planned let's have a look on November 11th a prototype of the Quantum Drive was shot into space as one of 80 small satellite missions aboard a SpaceX rocket the device was produced by the Company ivoo Limited and the satellite called Barry one was built by Rogue Space Systems before I s
ay anything more I have to admit that I find it amazing how far private space flight has come basically anyone with sufficient enthusiasm and finances can now put their stuff into Earth's orbit however for this particular Mission the travel began pretty much as soon as the thing was launched into space according to Rogue Space Systems the satellite had power supply issues from the moment it got into to orbit and by February 9th the company had entirely lost contact with its satellite this happen
ed just before the Quantum Drive was supposed to boost the satellite to test the propulsion capacity of the Revolutionary new device so we still don't know if it works also one more piece of space junk up there here's the background Story the Quantum Drive was thought up by Richard Mansel based on the idea of quantized inertia catchy name but unfortunately every physicist I know whoever looked at the papers about quantized nura has said it's pseudo scientific nonsense I looked at the papers myse
lf and I agree I'm sure this video would do much better if I said I think it's correct and Quantum something will Propel us to the stars but the truth is often boring and I'm afraid the truth is not the Quantum Drive is nonsense though the reason it's nonsense is interesting in itself as far as I can tell the origin of the supposed new propulsion is unre radiation Anu radiation is named after Banu who calculated what an eternally accelerated Observer would experience in vacuum navely you'd think
vacuum is vacuum is vacuum what's there to ask but anre found that an accelerated Observer wouldn't see a vacuum he'd instead measure radiation with a temperature that's proportional to the acceleration so higher acceleration higher temperature you see what physicists mean by vacuum is the absence of particles that's how it's defined just mathematically anrew now said that the notion of a particle depends on the acceleration this means that what's vacuum for someone who sits still is not vacuum
for someone who accelerates hence the accelerated Observer sees particles we've heard that in Einstein's theory the passage of time depends on how much you accelerate and little Albert is comfortable with that but un resar it's the same for particles how many you see depends on how much you accelerate and Albert isn't really sure what to make of this where does the energy of those particles come from that the accelerated Observer sees they come from whatever causes the acceleration you can't ha
ve an accelerated Observer without a force and for that Force you need energy you know a propulsion system the unre radiation is basically something like a universal friction it's a response to that acceleration that already tells you that you can't use unru radiation to increase acceleration that doesn't make any sense it'll be creating energy out of nothing and that's leaving aside that the unre effect is ridiculously small which is why it's never been measured okay but to get back to the quan
tized inertia the theory of quantized inertia was first proposed in 2007 by Mike molok a lecturer at the University of Plymouth he wanted it to explain the Pioneer anomaly and be an alternative to Dark Matter the Pioneer anomaly was an unexpected acceleration of the pioneer 10 and 11 spacecraft on their way out of the solar system in 2012 NASA found the acceleration was due to an uneven emission of heat so much about that regarding Dark Matter mullock's thinking seems to have been basically that
the effect of Dark Matter looks like there's acceleration missing for example because stars in the outermost regions of galaxies seem to be going around too fast so I guess he thought if something is causing this extra acceleration maybe we can use this to accelerate something else this sounds super officially plausible but if you think about it a bit longer it doesn't make sense the effect we observe in galaxies gets stronger the further away you are from the center of the Galaxy and while the
re should still be a small effect where we are we know what it does it keeps our solar system on its path around the center of the Galaxy it doesn't accelerate Rockets So I find this socalled Quantum Drive unpromising to put it mildly but I do find it fascinating that something that's so obviously nonsense got so far most interestingly it's received financial support from daa that's the American defense Advanced research projects agency reportedly they put $1.3 million into the idea now on the o
ne hand you might say 1.3 million isn't all that much if that's something you might say please get in touch I have a research proposal for you on the other hand money is money and they could have used it to say pay the electricity bill of their new AI that I'm sure they're cooking up so why didn't they I think what's going on there is a total lack of respect for theory development the people who hand out these grants probably think that theories are all nonsense anyway and just don't discriminat
e between them this isn't the only example of this type there was also the hollow meter a proposal by Craig Hogan that formula pumped 2 million into because he said it it true that the universe is a hologram Hogan didn't have a theory to back up his claim and I'm not saying this to be annoying it's what he said himself and you know what he didn't find any evidence that the universe is a hologram making robust predictions for experiments requires serious theoretical work unfortunately I have to a
dmit that physicists haven't inspired much confidence in the past decades by producing loads of theories about about stuff that doesn't exist that also doesn't get found I can't even blame Dara and fmab for concluding that it doesn't really matter if physicists say the theory is sound because physicists have totally ruined trust in their entire discipline but speaking of sound theories just among you and I I don't think the unre effect is a real effect though I've given up fighting this fight wi
th physicists most physicists seem to believe it's a real effect I think they using a meaningless definition of particle you know this makes me think now that maybe I should write a paper about this people often ask me how I managed to produce Science News videos so quickly and reliably it's thanks to my awesome team but it has taken some time and effort to find an efficient workflow and one key ingredient has been not pass for business who've been sponsoring this video it's bad enough to have t
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Comments

@yeroca

For funding projects, there's also a not-quite-so-ridiculous reason for providing money for projects that have low-likelihood of success, but if they are successful, the payoff is huge. Of course, it should require the ability to discriminate between low likelihood and zero likelihood. Remember those "remote viewing" experiments that were funded as well?

@53kenner

I think the problem is that the use of the term 'particle' is confusing people. I propose we call it 'phlogiston', which seems equally valid and probable.

@filosophik

"The truth is often boring" only when wisdom forgets to make knowledge objectively giddy.

@worldpeace1822

Thanks to the team 😊

@olafmatyja5485

I love the extra spice from "You're blocked" on the Twitter screenshot (4:13) or a text highlighted at 1:26. Keep rolling, you are great!

@planetsec9

I'm glad my introduction to this QI theory and the QI drive concept and how it works was not from this video because this video really left out a lot of information like how the drive actually works and the fact that the IVO company stated they tested their device in a vacuum chamber on Earth and recorded a thrust response multiple times which led to their decision to decide to test it in orbit on a cubesat without any other method of propulsion aboard. Its the boldest example of empirical research you can find and I can't wait for the follow up QI drive cubesats planned (apparently several) one way or another the truth will be known, it either changes its orbit significantly or does not, it doesn't get easier to test than that and is worth experimenting with for that reason alone. If it works - it's revolutionary for physics and spaceflight, if it doesn't it's one less thing to concern ourselves with. Also the fact that SpaceX has made getting to orbit to test these bold experiments much easier and cheaper than it has ever been with their Transporter missions should be celebrated too, this is real democratization of space access.

@MrMctastics

0:38 my small rural missouri university(MST) is about to launch a student created satellite the size of a backpack(through spaceX) in order to test a new propulsion system. Fun times indeed! It's just a normal propulsion system, no quantum nonsense

@kurtiserikson7334

I think they were missing a dilithium crystal.

@orionx79

People tend to think of space as empty and it is if your going slow. But if you were going a significant portion the speed of light you would experience friction in the form of cosmic drag as that 1 atom per 3 cubic meters would add up per sec.

@MadDragon75

I bet hanging out with you and a bunch of physicists is fun. The looks you must get for pointing out the quiet parts would make me lol.

@lonnyhandwork422

Sabine at her best. Thank you!

@tinytim71301

This would be a perfect opportunity to discuss R&D. I’m sure Rogue Space Systems would be happy to clarify things.

@henrymach

It might not have gone as planned but it absolutely went as expected

@take5th

Like saying that at speed there is high winds, so high winds cause acceleration.

@gfabasic32

Wie immer sehr interessante Themen.

@mintakan003

Love the daily science drop. Short format. Focus on one topic. (Yeah, I also wondered what ever happened to the "EM drive", ... or whatever, by another name.)

@kevconn441

Should have used an Improbability Drive.

@scooble

I reckon it'll reappear seven years later in a decaying orbit around Neptune , and they'll have to send a rescue ship called Lewis and Clark to investigate.

@ancientegyptandthebible

I met Bill Unruh when I was an undergrad student. I even had a one on one meeting with the man. He was a really cool guy!

@morgantseasrant1948

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