badges we don't need no stinking badges quota
line actually misquator line from The Treasure of the Sierra Madres this week we're talking
about badges that we ain't got no of when we bought the 75 Torino I thought for sure that this
badge here that goes on the fuel door was missing from the car and it was kind of a bummer because I
thought ah I'll just go out onto eBay and find one they aren't out there and after the break
we're going to talk about what you can do to make a badges look bett
er than the
badges look now the best I can do [Music] for 45 years the Miller family and the
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Falcon Fairlane F-100 Galaxy Maverick and Pinto all right so a badge like this is a plastic
badge that goes inside the insert on the gas door on our 75 Gran Torino I will say that a lot
of times these parts are missing off of thi
ngs like fuel doors just simply because you're
opening and closing that thing all the time it's right there in the gas line these things can
get damaged or even just lost because the glue on the back will let go I've got a tad bit of glue
still left on here that I'm going to show you how I remove this may not be the best way to do it but
it it involves my old trusty big pocket knife and I go in and I just pick the glue out of there if
you get lucky a lot of times it will actually pick the g
lue out from the whole area and you'll also
pick up the paint as well or the primer my goal on this badge is to keep as much of that Chrome
as is in there and for areas where I do not keep that Chrome I'm going to be using this thing which
is a Malto liquid chrome my experience with these kind of paints is it it would probably be okay
in here because there's not going to be something everybody's going to be scrutinizing but if you're
trying to use this stuff on a lot of different areas usua
lly it's not chromy it looks kind of
like Chrome but doesn't really look like Chrome so the next thing I'm going to do is I'm going to
show you briefly before we go any further how I go through and take this stuff off I try to keep it
away from me call me crazy but I don't want to cut my finger off Jackson would probably like to see
that but I really don't want to do it I've already cut myself with this thing yesterday once you'll
see how it picked that little bit of material off one thing
I'll say is if you can see it that is
actually either a very bright silver paint that Ford put down on the backside of this before they
put the primer down or it is an actual thin thin metal that they put down in here I'm betting
more on a paint for the background because this actually has moving from Back to Front you
have a primer layer you have a silver layer and then you have a a clear red that goes next to
the plastic that's your final stopping point for paint we're going to go into al
l that
and how we work that here in just a minute I'm just going to kind of show this and then I'll
work this off camera to get the rest of it up because I want to move on to some of the other
things that we do in order to take this apart and get everything where we can
actually just make everything a common color I don't like going
in and doing these kind of things and just working on a portion of it
because I find what can happen is you can end up with it looking modeled
in the final if
you don't get all the glue and stuff off this and get
down to the right down to the clear there's a Japanese guy that restores
tail lights I think he's Japanese he may be Chinese and he does a fantastic job
of this kind of stuff but he's not here today I'm assuming he's either in China or Japan
somewhere I'm really trying hard to just pick the um the glue off of here this almost looks
like it was put on with weatherstrip adhesive because I have a next step that I'm going to
go to you'll k
now too that I'm trying I'm not worried so much about taking the center out
of this I'm trying to leave as much of that chrome paint that's down in there on here as
I can so I'm really trying to work pretty hard to not go too deep with this um it's going to be
kind of hard to see but there's areas even where the black is supposed to go down all the way into
that bottom so I'm assuming that what they did in painting it was the Chrome for the letters went
down first then they painted the blac
k and then they did the red that's just an assumption on my
part but I'm going to stop with this in just a second here all right so what to do to clean the
paint and primer off the back side of your badge I went out on the internet and there were like seven
or eight different things that seemed plausible I tried two of them uh and the two the one that I've
settled on that seems to work the best is in fact acetone acetone is going to be your best bet for
doing this because the acetone seems
to pull up the primer it'll also pull up the red paint but it
doesn't seem to be damaging any of the Plastics on here I would advise you to test first before you
go and start doing a lot of work make sure it's not damaging the plastic sometimes you can use a
product like acetone and it will go in and make a mess of the plastic and then you'll have to sand
buff and then cut and buff and then go in and make sure that everything's shiny which you would use
a product like this is a metal polish
that we use it's called autosol that's what you'd want to
do in the final I'll show you that at the very end of this as well so what I'm going to do is I'm
going to pop my top on my acetone here get out of the way my camera guy yes I know I use my knife
on that so excuse me here oh I got a flat blade now what I use for this is Q-tips um because
they're cheap and they're easy to use and they'll get the job done with what we're trying to do here
I'm going to put my glasses on not because I'm
a safety Maven which I kind of am but because
I can't see a dang thing as I've gotten older and so what you're going to do with this
is you're going to take the acetone and rub your work area check it every once in a while
make sure you're not getting a lot of acetone over on your borders here usually on a Ford
badge those borders are inset so it will it's not really a problem if you get something on
there but you can see that's just knocking right through that primer coat and down through
the Chrome I'm guessing that's chrome paint also look at your badge for direction this badge
has a raised area that is more prominent going this way and a deeper Edge going this way so
I'm going to try to keep going horizontal on my movements to clean everything up in there inside
of here is a little more problematic to get that out of there with acetone you're going to have
to refresh pretty quickly because it is just not going to stay on your Q-tip for very long or your
swab tell I'm an
old guy because I'm using the word Q-tip and for cotton swab where this really
comes into play on the Torino line is like if you've got a set of sport Badges and the plastic's
in good shape and it's not cracked and crazed those badges in good shape on the internet are
running somewhere in the neighborhood of 300 for a full set I'm going to go ahead and finish this
thing up and get it ready to go toward paint off camera this gives you an idea what I'm talking
about how quickly that acetone
will get in there and clean these things up all right I have gone in
and used this paint pen I will say that it looks pretty good the color comes out pretty nice the
problem I have is it's just not the same as the original chrome on these letters I do not want
to go in and try to take the Chrome out of these letters I've tried to keep as much of it in there
as I possibly could but it's not really as nice now what I'm going to do is I'm going to flip
this over see if Jackson can catch this i
n the camera you can see it's a fairly bright silver
it's a nice it's a nice color the big problem I have with it is that it's just not quite doing it
on this side it's a little darker for some reason than the absolute Chrome so they must have put
a foil down inside of the letters somehow when they were putting this together so I'm going
to go ahead and put some more of this in and kind of finish this up not exactly what I'd hoped
for but I'm not one of those guys that's going to say oh thi
s works great it looks wonderful it's
it's just okay at some points you might would want to go in and try to find another badge but
what I'm doing with this or what I do with these is these are really fine line pins you can
see the point on here is really really tiny and what I do is I just run it down inside of
there squish it because this is an applicator type oh so I've got to clean that up but that'll
show you how bright that is right there get my friendly applicators here where
I to h
ave had the red paint there that would be pretty awesome but I
do not have the red paint there go back to my acetone and clean that out of the
center and then we're going to now move on to doing the black because I see that as being the
next stage of this badge here on our Torino badge if you're not willing to look stupid for your
work are you really working these are a seven time magnification set of goggles that my dad had the
Lord knows how many years and I have now inherited them I can'
t see anything unless I get like
right here so I am going to be right literally right on top of my work uh working on this but
I wanted to show you this isn't a lot of fun um when you're doing these kind of
things you're going to be having to get right up on what you're doing and
these are a really good way to do that you must control your breathing
all that sort of stuff I'm gonna try to get over on this Edge
without getting the paint on the red section because we pulled paint off and
we
were working on it before if I do get some on there I can go
in and just kind of scrape it out with my finger it doesn't look bad on
this side especially with these things off see guys if you built models when you were a kid and you just didn't kit bash and try to
throw everything together as quick as you could to see what it looked like that's where
this kind of thing really starts to pay off because uh yeah it's really tiny detail work one thing you can do when you're putting the paint
d
own is you can actually go and backside it like this and scrub toward the inside of the lettering
and that will help make it where it'll fill out to that outside edge it's really hard to put paint
on a paintbrush with these glasses on I can't see anyway there's just gonna be a ton of fun like
this you're going to be going through and doing this all the way around these letters Wherever
You Picked paint off when you were cleaning it you must have nerves of Steel to do
this I'm not going to c
ontinue to show you this it's basically just going
in and doing this around all the letters all the way down to the sides of them on the
T on the Torino always look at your badges to see what you've got and I'm gonna have to clean
that out now because I tagged it with the brush but this just gives you an idea of
what I'm talking about when you're doing these kind of badges all right I'm
going in and I'm applying the red now and I'm trying to get the paint thin enough
that it won't uh cause
a problem with not being able to see the silver that we're going
to apply to the back of it and then the primer which is how Ford did I'm not going to say this
kind of look just like what Ford did it won't but it'll certainly get you in the neighborhood
so it won't be as bad you won't notice it as much at the shows and I'm also still using my small
brush for this I can see the color through it it's going to not be quite the same red I've
tried to go in and make it as close as I possibly ca
n but it's got a little bit more blue
to it than the original red the original Red's a little dirtier probably more toward a brown and
I could probably go fix that but I'm not gonna and this is just going to be a matter of me going
through and touching up right up to the letters I still use a small brush for this to kind
of keep away from doing too much damage to the work I've already done with the black all right so what I'm going to do
now is I've got this thing face up and I'm just going
to take a piece
of tape and kiss that edge there and I'm going to run this tape around that outside edge yes I have to put
my old man glasses on so I can see what I'm doing I don't mind if the tape sticks up a little
bit I just want it to be enough to so that you don't have any uh exposure on the sides
of the badge a little bit more tape I think I probably will try that I may go ahead
and just try using the paint pen here to do a flood fill the only thing I might would do different on
thi
s one in the future if I had to go and do something like this again is I would possibly
go in and just take all the original paint off completely and not try to save any of it
and go back and do what I'm doing right now fresh with this silver and everything the
problem you have is it's a reverse but there's no way to get foil down inside those the depth
of those letters this type of paint pen a lot of guys will use these to do Chrome on windshield
perimeters and things like that on model ca
rs just going to go through and flood fill all this
you could probably also do the lettering on your abusing my tools Big Blob take your page where you can okay poor Bill he spent my friend Bill Rhodesian spent
like an afternoon putting this top on here and I have just absolutely abused it and I can am
continuing to abuse his work he's got a channel check it out it's six round Studio putting a link
down here below me you need to go check out Bill's stuff he does all kind of restoration work
on his
channel really cool stuff he's a master Craftsman all right so now I'm gonna go get some
spray primer and I'm going to Prime the back of it like Ford did it's not going
to be perfect but it should be good enough don't worry all right I'm going to be using the
auto saw we talked about at the beginning of the show to go in and clean up plastic the
tape I'm using is a little old so I've got some trash from that on here as well I'm
just going to hold this thing down on the table top tha
t I've where I've got it and I'm
going to use the auto saw to polish that face and I will also be working the edges as well just getting all the junk off the sides here I know that it says that this is metal polish but
I'll tell you what I've used it on all kinds of stuff Plastics and metals and it works really good
I ain't got a bit of skin in their game I just like their product line and I use it habitually
on stuff like this because it just works [Music] so there's your badge uh it's not
perfect by
any stretch of the imagination but you have to remember when you're doing this kind of stuff and
it's something that I sometimes lose sight of when you are doing a project like this you are dealing
with a dramatic piece of minutia on your car this is just a very small microcosm of the rest of
the car it doesn't have to necessarily be super perfect I have a feeling that when if you're
looking at this from the perspective of a new car back in the day there could be some problems
w
ithin the badge that you just wouldn't notice because you're taking in the entire automobile and
that could be the case here this thing will end up looking pretty darn good once we put it inside
of the badge holder so to speak on the 75 Torino all right folks well that's it for this week do
me a favor be kind to each other love on each other treat each other very nice you guys have
a great week and we'll see you on down the road [Music] button it up put it on you would use a product like thi
s the autosol
we talk about a good bit on the show for that kind of activity oh sorry Jackson just told
me it's upside down now it's right side up
Comments
Badges? We don't need no stinkin badges!
That was a really good restoration it worked out much better than I would have expected. Patience and attention to detail.
Nice job! That is a real improvement!
You always amaze me with your knowledge 😊
Awesome job and those 7X glasses are awesome. Do you have a video on repainting hub caps? Thanks for the video.
Great time for this video to come out. I need to restore the EXACT same badge in the Exact same way on my Torino lmao!
Here I thought I was the only one OCD on the small minor detailed oriented trim. Love doing this kind of stuff on classics. I think the small details make the biggest difference
Unsure about this era, but in the 1950s the process used a metallized coating on the plastic for the shiny bit and paint on the rest. 1957-1959 Chrysler badges were casted, gold metallized, sanded/polished, and THEN painted. There are still a few companies that can metallize clear plastic badges.
This bring back some memories, lol, great job though. However I've had some success with solder, and as long as you seal it quickly it produces a very nice effect. Though I had a buddy who is sadly no longer with us, but he did some incredible badge work for me over the years. He did a set of Ford and Ghia badges for me back in the late 90's with gold,-silver leaf, Crushed celestial Fire Glass and crushed ruby. They were spectacular, but in a good way.
That was pretty cool, I have not built models in 45 years, but will get me some old guy goggles and look for some badges to restore!
Great video! Did the chrome stripes in my '74 ford f250 gauge cluster. Used the cheap liquid chrome and it turned out super nice!
Great video. Thank you. 👍
I’ve used those Molotow markers on my 66 Mustang. I think it’s designed to float the most reflective stuff in the formula to the surface. So with a reverse badge like the Torino, it’s not quite gonna look like the other side of itself. My opinion only! Thanks for all your knowledge and help over the years.
Looks good!👍
thanks for sharing! awesome video the Torino badge caught my eye my Dad owns 2 1971s and i own a 70 and a 71 Ranchero anyway awesome video and that subscribe animation of you is funny peace!
Hello Jeff. I have found that soaking this type of part in brake fluid will remove the paint without affecting the plastic. I would use this method to remove all of the paint including the silver lettering. George B
It's not as convenient as a paint pen but you should try rub and buff for Chrome touch up next time. It's amazing what you can do with that stuff. IDK how well it would work for this application but another way to touch up Chrome trim/emblems is aluminum foil / HVAC tape cut with a razor. Thank you for this video I really appreciate your time and everything you guys do ❤🤗
Hi, I have a 1972 Ltd with a similar badge style. How do you remove the insert without destroying the arms that hold it in? Working on the lock cover one that swings out of the way.
Bare metal foil from any hobby store is probably similar to what Ford used
I don't know if it would work, but could you put silver solder in the letters or would that be to hot?