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RTX 4070 vs 4080 Gaming Laptop Comparison Timestamps:
0:00 RTX 4070 or RTX 4080 Gaming Laptop?
0:33 Video Sponsor - Gigabyte
1:10 GPU Spec Differences
1:36 GPU Power Limits
2:03 Power Scaling - Performance at Different Power Limits
2:50 Laptops Tested
3:03 Battery Life Difference
3:13 Power Draw Difference
3:13 Performance Per Watt (Best Efficiency)
3:41 Temperature Difference
3:56 Clock Speed Difference
4:11 25 Games Compared at 4K, 1440p & 1080p
4:16 Cyberpunk 2077
4:43 Apex Legends
5:05 Microsoft Flight Simulator
5:31 Far Cry 6 - VRAM Difference at Work
5:56 Forza Horizon 5 - Another Big VRAM Difference
6:20 Watch Dogs Legion - VRAM is Important Here Too
6:44 Dying Light 2
6:52 Ray Tracing - The Witcher 3
7:15 More RT - Metro Exodus
7:31 Hogwarts Legacy
7:49 15 More Games Compared!
8:19 1080p Average Difference
8:49 1440p Average Difference
9:08 4K Average Difference
9:30 25 Game Average
9:47 Price Difference & Laptop Sales
10:55 Cost Per Frame (Best Value)
11:31 Where the 4080 Makes Less Sense
11:53 Room for 4070 Ti Laptop?
12:06 RTX 4070 Laptop for 4K Gaming?
12:46 Where the 4070 Makes More Sense
13:04 Worth Spending More for RTX 4090?
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Nvidia RTX 4070 gaming laptops are not worth
buying compared to the higher tier RTX 4080. Yeah, a gaming laptop with a 4080
inside is going to cost more money, but it performs so much better in most games
that it’s worth spending the extra money. I’ve compared both GPUs in 25 games at 4K, 1440p and 1080p resolutions to show you
how crazy the difference is! This is critical information that anyone considering
an RTX 4070 laptop needs to pay attention to! But first, Gigabyte have
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link below to find out more. Back to the comparison. The higher tier
RTX 4080 laptop GPU has 61% more CUDA, tensor and ray tracing cores compared to the lower
tier RTX 4070 - a massive difference. The 4080 also has 50% more VRAM capacity with a bigger
memory bus, more memory bandwidth, and faster memory. The 4080 can also hit higher boost clock
speeds, as it’s got a higher maximum power limit. In theory, both of these laptops can run with
an extra 25 watts
with Nvidia’s dynamic boost, but in the real world with an actual game running, 4070 laptops hit a voltage limit in
most games at around 100 watts or so, which means there’s no FPS boost beyond this
point as it can’t actually run above 100 watts. This is not a problem for the 4080, and FPS in
games continues to scale at higher power levels. This graph shows the 3DMark Time Spy graphics
score from each GPU at different power levels. The 4070 can run lower, making it better
for thinner and li
ghter gaming laptops, while the 4080 can use more power, which is
why it can be found in bigger laptops with more cooling. With both GPUs running at 60 watts,
the 4080 was scoring 20% higher than the 4070, but if we limit both at 140 watts,
well the 4080 has a much larger 49% lead. And then it gets even further
ahead at its maximum 175 watt limit. I’m comparing both of these GPUs at their max, so we are expecting a pretty big performance
difference. So expect a smaller change to what we’re
going to see here in smaller
laptops with lower power limits. I’m using XMG’s Neo 16 laptop to do this
testing, so we’ve got the exact same CPU, RAM, SSD and water cooling for
a fair comparison. They’ve both got the same sized batteries
too, and with a game running, the 4070 laptop lasted 20% longer with both on
battery power and limited to a 30 FPS frame cap. The 4070 laptop uses less power. When measuring
both at the wall with the charger connected, the 4080 was drawing 19% more power
i
n Control at 4K high settings, and 24% more power in Cyberpunk
2077 at 4K ultra settings. Yeah, the 4080 offers more
FPS, as you’ll see soon, but from a performance per watt
perspective, the 4070 ends up more power efficient. The 4080 hits higher frame
rates, but it needs more power to do so. The 4070 was also running a little cooler in these
games too. The 4080 uses a physically larger die, so in theory it has more surface area for cooling, but again it’s using around 20% more power
too,
and more power results in more heat. The clock speed difference wasn’t that big, with the 4070 actually clocking higher in
Control. The 4080 has 61% more CUDA cores, but with 19% more power it doesn’t seem
that it can clock them quite as high. With all that in mind, let’s move into our 25 game
comparison, starting with Cyberpunk 2077. I’ve got the 1080p results down the bottom, 1440p in the
middle, and 4K up the top, with the 4070 results underneath the 4080 results. Despite the small
diffe
rence seen in the clock speeds, the 4080’s 61% more CUDA cores are clearly being put to work
here, as it’s reaching a 64% higher average frame rate at 4K, though the 1080p difference
was smaller with a 26% lead over the 4070. Some games like Apex Legends had massive
performance differences at 1080p though. The 4080 was 65% faster than the 4070, the
biggest difference at this lower resolution out of all 25 games tested. Even the dips in
performance on the 4080, as shown by the 1% lows, were
higher than the average FPS coming
out of the 4070 - a big difference. Then on the other hand, games that are more CPU
heavy like Microsoft Flight Simulator barely had much difference at all at 1080p. There’s
a bigger 36% lead with the 4080 at 1440p, but this is still the smallest
difference out of our 25 game selection at this resolution. By the time
we get up to 4K, the 4080 was 54% faster, because the more powerful GPU can better
stretch its legs when we’re more GPU bound. Now although
the 4070 has done relatively alright
at 4K so far, it starts to fall apart in Far Cry 6. Its 8 gigs of VRAM just isn’t enough at this
resolution with ultra settings and HD textures on, though you could of course lower the settings to
reach a higher frame rate. My point here is that the extra 4 gigs of VRAM available to the 4080 do
help it out in some games at higher resolutions. This is also seen in Forza Horizon 5 with the
highest extreme setting preset. At 4K the 4080 has a massive 92% hi
gher average frame
rate - almost double the FPS of the 4070, crazy stuff. At 1440p the 4080 was
49% faster, which sounds great, but it’s actually a below average
result out of the 25 games tested. Watch Dogs Legion can be fairly
VRAM heavy at ultra settings too, which would explain why the 4080 was 77% faster
at 4K, one of the biggest differences from the 25 games tested. Even at 1440p and 1080p,
the 1% lows from the 4080 were still better than the average FPS from the 4070, which just
me
ans the 4080 is more stable and consistent. It’s a similar deal in Dying Light 2 as well,
the 4080 has a 77% lead over the 4070 at 4K, but then on the other hand, there’s almost no
difference in average FPS in The Witcher 3 at 4K with the ray tracing preset enabled. This is
a weird result that I’ve seen with a number of laptops in this game, with ray tracing on once
it gets too hard to run it seems to just cap out at 30 FPS. Even 1080p was 59% faster on the 4080,
the third biggest differenc
e at this resolution. Metro Exodus also enables some RT
effects with the highest setting preset, which probably explains why we’re seeing
the same 59% improvement with the 4080 at 1080p. Tracing those rays just needs more GPU
horsepower, even at this lower resolution. The differences in Hogwarts Legacy were below
average compared to most other games tested, and although the 4070 was only reaching 30 FPS
at 4K max settings, don’t forget that both GPUs could see a nice improvement by making u
se
of features like DLSS and frame generation. Alright after 10 games I think you’ve got the
general idea, the 4080 is significantly better in most cases. I’ll just quickly skip through
the rest of the 15 games tested on screen now, instead of wasting your time talking through the
results from each individual game. I think it’s important to test a wide selection of games
so that we can get an accurate picture of the average performance differences to make the
fairest possible conclusion. A
s I always say, more data equals more better. Let’s
look at those average differences next. On average over all 25 games tested, at
1080p the higher tier RTX 4080 laptop GPU was 44% faster compared to the lower tier
RTX 4070 laptop GPU. This graph shows how much faster each game was on the 4080,
and as you can see, results really vary depending on the specific game. CPU heavier
games like Flight Simulator and Spider Man were 5 to 10% faster on the 4080, while a
number of others were closer
to 60% faster. If we step up to the higher 1440p
resolution where we’re more GPU bound, the RTX 4080 was now 55% faster than the 4070 on
average. This time even the smallest difference was 36% faster with the 4080, while in the best
case, we’re seeing up to a 70% lead in Dead Space. The gap gets bigger at the higher 4K resolution,
where we’re even more GPU dependent, and the VRAM difference starts to matter more in some games.
The 4080 is now 69% faster than the 4070, nice, although if we
treat that massive Far
Cry 6 result at the top as an outlier, then the 4080 was instead 59% ahead on average. Here’s how frame rates look if we instead
take the average of all 25 games. I think this better allows us to visually see the overall
differences as a quick summary. It lets us easily see that even over a wide selection of games, the
4080 has a big performance uplift over the 4070. Alright, so the 4080 performs
way better compared to the 4070, but is it worth spending
more money to
get the 4080? Prices of both will change over time, so refer to the links below the
video for updates and current sales. And if any 4070 or 4080 gaming laptops do
go on sale, we’ll be sure to add them to our gaminglaptop.deals website. We
update that every day with all of the latest sales so you can save
money on your next gaming laptop! Alright, I’ve got a few examples. The
ASUS ROG Strix G18 costs $2300 USD for the RTX 4070 model, while the 4080
is only $200 more, or 9% more money. Raze
r’s Blade 16 certainly costs
a whole lot more money overall, but it’s still only 9% more money to
go for the better performing 4080. If we actually use XMG’s Neo 16 with liquid
cooler that I’ve tested in this video, we’re looking at 25% more money to go from the
4070 up to the 4080. This same model is also sold in the US by Eluktronics, and we’re looking
at a similar 21% extra money for the 4080. The 4080 ends up way better from a cost
per frame perspective compared to the 4070 in all thre
e of these examples, so for
the ASUS ROG Strix G18, Razer Blade 16, and XMG Neo 16 / Eluktronics Mech-16 GP. Yeah,
the 4080 costs a few hundred dollars more, but it performs so much better in games that it
ends up being worth it by offering better value. It’s a bit different with something like
the ASUS Zephyrus M16. There’s a much bigger $750 price gap between the 4070 and 4080
options, so 38% more money for the 4080, and unlike the last three laptops,
the M16 is a thinner design, so the
4080 is power limited to 120 watts plus
dynamic boost. This means it won’t perform as well as the 4080 results shown previously in
this video, so I can’t fairly do the cost per frame calculation with my data, but it’s an
example where the 4080 may make less sense. Based on the big performance
differences between the 4070 and 4080, it kind of feels like Nvidia have just
left a space for a 4070 Ti next year. But that’s just me speculating based on
the big differences between these two. Hones
tly, I don’t really think that a 4070
laptop should be considered if your goal is 4K gaming. To be fair, as we saw in many of
the games, you can certainly get away with it. Especially if you’re willing to turn down the
settings a bit or make use of features like FSR, DLSS or frame generation. But ultimately
for 4K gaming with higher setting levels, I’d recommend the 4080 for its extra power,
but also the 50% extra VRAM capacity. Even for 1440p gaming, spending
a few hundred dollars extra i
f you can afford it for the 4080 just
feels like a no-brainer. Which kind of makes me wonder if the 4070 only exists
to entice people to spend more on the 4080. Now to be fair, the 4070 does make more
sense in thinner and lighter laptops as that GPU is pretty efficient at lower
power levels compared to last gen. But when we’re talking about max powered
options for the best FPS in games, the 4080 wins hands down and is
worth the extra money in most cases. But if you’re going to spend RTX 40
80 money, is it worth spending more and going all the
way up to the RTX 4090? Check out this video next where I’ve compared those two GPUs
in the same 25 games at 3 resolutions!
Comments
⚠ Don't miss out! Save money on your gaming laptop with our daily deals: https://gaminglaptop.deals 3:31 Meant to say the 4080 is more power efficient. It uses more power, but the FPS improvement is higher. The graph is correct, what I said is wrong.
Sadly, 4080 laptops are just so expensive. The gap between 4070 and 4080 laptops range from like $700-$1000+. Even when considering future proofing, they're quite unnaffordable for even the average consumer willing to go above their budget
Jarrod and everyone else: "just buy a 4080 instead of a 4070". Me: "sure blud, lemme pull another 1500€ out of my arsehole"
this conclusion of "just buy the more expensive model bro" is exactly why 'Ngreedia' created such a difference in performance between these cards. As consumers, you are being played.
I absolutely love the Power Scaling graph you did, I wish all the reviewers provided this information. I would love to see this graph for the Asus G14 - 4070, 4080 and 4090 variants
At this moment, in BestBuy, the cheapest 4080 is costs 800US$ more than the cheapest 4070.
The voltage limit is an incredibly disingenuous move on nVidia’s part. If they advertised these cards as up to 100w, that would be fine as a marketing tool for efficiency. Instead, they get to advertise more power, more better, without actually delivering on performance
Sure the performance difference is large but the price is also large (Atleast in regions where i can buy it from) Usually it is around 400-600$ difference and then again you're not just looking at the GPU on paper when buying it. The TGP varies by models , plus the screen, cooling, battery life, upgradability all matter of the laptop all matter.
I do agree with that statement, but I also think the 4070 has its place in thin and lights. The efficiency of this card is amazing laptops like the x13 and z13 are great examples of that
You've played right into their hands. The entire purpose of the lower skus is to upsale for the 4080 and 4090
Your analysis and comparisons as always so thorough and accurate; so helpful to get the full picture. Thank you.
When pointing out how bad of a value the 4070m is you should also include the 4060m. Its ~10% slower but more than 10% cheaper and has the same 8gb vram.
As always it just depends on price. If the price difference between a 4070 and 4080 is like 300 even 400 hundred dollars than by all means get a 4080. But right now you can get deals on 4070 laptops that make the price difference more like &700-$900. A Legion with 4070 can be had for like 1600-1700 right now, a 4080 version comes in 2500+. That's a gap in price that is actually bigger than the gap in relative GPU performance, as long as you are fine gaming at 1440p/1600p which these GPU's seem perfectly capable of handling.
In my country it was a 40 dollar increase in price switching from 4060 to 4070 in the configuration so i think it depends on the deal aswell. But the jump to a 4080 would be a few hundred dollars
Hi Jarrod, from that video where you showed that above 100 W all 4060-70 perform the same (capped fps above 100w), I am looking ONLY at 4080 laptops. There is no point getting somethinng above 100W 4060. Thanks again!
Great review. Would add a caveat -- I think the mfgs realize they aren't selling so managed to get a 4070 legion that I paid 4060 prices for (~1350$ w. 7745hx). 4080 capable laptops seem to be outside my price range and would set me back quite a bit more.
But like if a 4070 is like 1500 usd or 1700 usd max then it may be better in terms of cost per frame.
Unfortunately the "just spend more for 4080" didnt reach the box retailers ears. I'm seeing on average a $500-$700 price difference from 4070 to 4080. Also the laptops that come with 4k screens pushes the price to the $3200-$3500 range. You can get a 4070 i9 (H) for under $2400 from most places. Also for me I prefer thin and light laptops.
I just bought Aorus 2023 with 4070. 4080 is around 1.2k$ more with Aorus 2022. I was fighting with myself to see it it's worth it and decided to go with redesigned Aorus with weaker GPU. I watched tons of your videos and the one about redesigned aorus helped me make this decision. Also, sick t-shirt as usual. I'm listening to Anno 1696 atm, loving the album so far.
In Canada, the Legion 7i with a 4080 is going to be about $1,300 more than a Legion 5i with a 4070. Insane price difference, no reason to go for the 4080.