well hello and welcome to another episode of under cooled today we're going to hear from some one of our Material Science undergraduates and I am uh really excited about this episode so Tim why don't you introduce Alexa sure it's so good to have a student on the show instead of just old people sitting around and having opinions so uh this is Alexa I will ask her to talk a little bit about herself but the first thing I'll spoil is that she is the president of our student Society in materials the
Michigan material society and so I've done a lot of work with her in that role over the last couple years just getting our students being part of a community so we're here to get all her secrets about how to make that happen uh yeah Alexa welcome to the show hi happy to be here give a student perspective yeah well let's start just by hearing a little bit about you tell us about yourself why did you become an MSE major where did you come from why are you here yeah um so I think my journey into MS
C was not the typical Journey so to speak I actually started out in the College of literature science and the Arts I transferred into the School of Engineering after my freshman year of college um I went to high school in in Denver Colorado I'm originally from there and in high school I kind of always knew I liked math I liked science particularly chemistry and physics were my favorite types of science I know I didn't want to do something in like bio or psychology um but I also was really intere
sted in like doing things with people so something like law or policy was really interesting to me because I really liked doing kind of like a research style reading like I liked reading a lot of things and then making an analysis on those readings and and kind of talking about my findings in that way and so when I first came to college I was like okay I'm probably going to try to do this like law thing um but I didn't know exactly what I wanted to do so I was like okay maybe econ is like a math
type law thing um so I was taking calculus and chemistry as well as some LSA classes and kind of in conjunction with that as well as uh with Co and everything happening my freshman year I realized that I didn't actually want to take kind of like the law and policy classes that I was taking I took orgo it was like actually one of my favorite classes and I thought like math and doing that type of problem solving was really something that I was good at and so I decided to transfer into the School
of Engineering um I don't know engineering was never really something that I had considered I just kind of like fell into place I originally thought I wanted to do chemical engineering so when I transferred I started in chemical engineering of course I feel like that's a pretty typical sentiment from the material scientists because I was like I like orgo I like chemistry like this is probably what I'm going to like doing so my first semester in the College of Engineering I took um engineering 10
1 and then Matt I 22 and I remember thinking that my professor wasn't great we didn't really click we won't name names no but then I was like I actually really like what I'm learning and so because I don't like the professor but I'm actually still so interested in what I'm learning like I think this is what I want to study so it was it was like a good um giveaway and like I just didn't end up even taking any chemical engineering classes and so yeah I just ended up in Material Science um it was l
ike end of my sophomore year when I had like fully like declared and yeah so it it's kind of a last minute decision but I'm happy to be here and you've been one of us ever since yes so glad to have you on the team um yeah you know that's something we hear I think quite a lot from students is I liked chemistry in high school so I became a chemical engineer and then I found out I wasn't doing chemistry and chemical engineering and so some of them find their way here chemical distillation columns w
e don't do that yeah so as I spoiled earlier uh one of your many roles in the department is being the MMS president and can you also give the audience a little bit of background on what what student life is like here in MSE for that matter but particularly in mms um you know what students in mms are doing right now and how that connects into plans that you have for what the organization might do next yeah so I think particularly the material science and engineering department at the University o
f Michigan is super tight-knit I think MMS is a big part of that we obviously have a really small major and everybody kind of gets to know everyone especially junior year when people are taking uh thermodynamics kinetics and then the two lab classes everyone's taking them all at the same time and so like MMS is kind of like the social pairing to that um we do like a lot of different social events um and then as well as weekly luncheons so people can kind of take their classroom learning and hear
from industry speakers kind of as an idea of like a okay I'm getting this MSE degree like what the heck do I do with it after I graduate um it's a really good like perspective for students so I would say that generally is what MMS is there for and kind of the reason that I chose to get involved is when I joined msse my sophomore year I really was deciding that I wanted to fully commit to this new community that I was a part of and I thought if I ran for a board position that would be a really g
ood way to like get involved uh my junior year I was the Outreach chair of MMS and then I ended up becoming president this year um my senior year and so after joining MMS seeing like the way that it run and understanding kind of the role that it has in students lives again being like a social outlet so people can know each other not just in a classroom setting but also in a social setting and then also like being kind of one of the key ways to connect classroom learning to real life um I decided
to like take those things and I was like okay how can we create things how can we create different offerings to students that are going to enhance the reasons that a student might want to join MMS that's great and you know I really I I tried as much as I can to go to MMS lunch and I really enjoy it but I'm very impressed with the speakers that you've been bringing in this year you bring in many people from industry most of them are usually alums and sometimes you even bring alums who aren't goi
ng to hire people but just have really interesting stories so maybe you can talk about some of the people that you've brought in that you're uh kind of the most proud of yeah um yeah I'm definitely very proud of a lot of the speakers we've had it's hard because there's just been so many um yeah we've brought in several Lums uh recently we had uh qu and she has had like such a cool career she does like law and policy in the utility industry um after like completing like dance schooling so that is
like so cool and just like such unique path that I thought students could really learn from because we've had a lot of Industry speakers in as well so we've had like General Motors and General Electric um and General Mills just to finish out the general trilogy shout out General Mills my 42 project sponsor nice um yeah and you have a tape company coming in tomorrow we do so I thought that would be kind of interesting for people to get more in the consumer goods because we haven't done a lot of
that um we have NASA coming this semester they haven't come in like years so that's really exciting people are really excited for that and apple also is coming um Nike we do try like hit the big name brands um and then like obviously some smaller things too um we had like a couple of like heat treatment or we've got medronic coming in so like kind of the medical devices as well um yeah just all sorts of things we also had like our department chair um Professor Holm she came in and like gave a ta
lk about um counterfeit money and so that was really cool because she's brand new to the department and we wanted to give her an opportunity to like speak to the student body and so that was that was a cool lunching as well yeah a lot of students get internships just by going to MMS lunch and staying after and talking to the people so I I think it's it's like every week is another job fair and Material Science yeah and it's all because of the hard work that you've done and the rest of your team
and so you know as a faculty member as the adviser I am very very grateful that um our students are getting more and more opportuni ities for um you know summer internships Beyond just our regular U job fairs but we also have our own msse job fair that I think you guys run as well is that right um so the msse career fair is run by MMS students but it's not particularly like a board opportunity um this past year uh Haley whan and Sabrina both planned it yeah so there's so much much great stuff th
at we get to enjoy on the receiving side of MMS here's these speakers here's these lunches here's these professional development opportunities but on the inside I'm sure you've had to do some heavy lifting to make this happen so uh you know without getting too into the weeds I guess were there any particular challenges that you've experienced as a student leader in this sort of setting because I'm sure anyone out there who's tried to organize more than two people has found out that that's not al
l always easy so what are some of those situations that have come up in MMS and how did you you know how did you handle those well I think that the first thing that I realized was I really need to trust my board my initial like thought process about running a board was like oh like I want to be really chill and I want it to be like low activation energy to like do the work and then I realize like that's actually not what I want at all like this is a community that I really care about and so I th
e first week that I was President I had each person write a one-page document to me saying all of the goals that they want to accomplish the year things that they need from me what they think their idea of success is within their role and specifically what they want MMS to work towards like what they think that our goals should be towards and then from there I really give them autonomy because they know what their goals are they know what they want to accomplish and then it just really lets me l
ike trust my board um like it's cons like I know the weekly email will go out every week like I know Laura is doing like Outreach stuff I know like someone's going to be at the open house I know that things are going to get taken care of and so that could only ever happen by having a board that I trust that I let feel like they have the opportunity to make a difference in the way they want to make a difference and also that by extension like they can bring things up to me I'll take it I'll liste
n to it I'll kind of adjust what I'm doing based on feed feedback that they have and so that initially definitely helped when it came to coming across issues but of course like as a board there's also been a lot of issue like just things come up in general it always will if you're trying to run a stud org mhm so like for example uh we tried to plan like a pretty big Dei event and there was like a lot of issues with the room reservations we got a bunch of speakers first semester and the room didn
't work and and following up we couldn't figure out how to exactly Target who we wanted we wanted like freshman engineering students but we didn't have like high sign up and so we had to move it virtual like two days before um and that just was really frustrating because it just didn't quite turn out the way I wanted to um but it was something where like when I just really was stuck and I was like still marketing it and still like trying my best like it was like my board members who were like ok
ay like let me give a suggestion let's do it virtual let's do this we can move to make an inperson experience like next semester or next year like I think just having those people to rely on is really helpful because it's like they know how much I care about things they know I would never ask them to do something that I wouldn't do myself and so like that also kind of builds trust there too yeah it sounds like the internal Dynamic is really productive really good everyone having a role everyone
having ways to contribute uh is MMS doing anything externally with other students societ is there any like collaboration there that gives you opportunities to reach a broader audience um so we've had a couple of social events with some of the other student orgs on campus um we had a volleyball tournament first semester with three other student orgs that are kind of like the MMS equivalent for some of the other departments um we participated in the Su engineering games so that was kind of a way t
o meet a lot of other student orgs and participate in their event um um and then additionally there's been a lot of stuff behind the scenes so we've reached out to student ORS like bz andu and we've talk to them about doing things but it's just kind of like building those relationships and then we'll just see what kind of comes from it very good yeah so you also are planning trips to Industry you're also have incredible social Gatherings like your bar crawls uh and uh you also go to some nationa
l conferences can you talk about some of those things yes absolutely so we're doing a trip to the Cleveland Cliffs uh steel mill in March in Dearborn and we are getting funding through aist which is um one of the national like organizations um and that's really exciting because I actually got to pair with one of our faculty Professor Mary and she's making a requirement for her class so we're going to have really good attendance 470 yes good um but I've also like before I planned it I really was
like I don't want to plan this if people don't want to do it so I asked my board members I was like would you guys go to this like I pulled some of the Juniors I was like is this something that people would actually go to and I got a lot of feedback that they would and so we're working on transportation and food for that now um so that's kind of exciting and then kind of in terms of some of the other things you mentioned uh our social events we had a food Progressive uh Thursday night a couple w
eeks ago and actually the following luncheon the next day was the highest attendance luncheon we'd ever had great so we were all out super late at the food Progressive together and then we all were there the next day at the lunch in so managed to wake up by noon and show up for for lunch yeah I think something about like me being like Oh my gosh everyone thanks for coming welcome to my house such a a fun time getting to know everyone and I will see you all tomorrow and it worked um so that was p
retty good and then yeah like social events um the industry tour is different something also new that we did this year was the MSE undergraduate orientation so we did that in fall and winter where all of the new declares from the past semester got together we gave them food talk to them a little bit about MSE The Insider perspective so to speak these are the electives you could take like these are the classes you could consider this is what you might want to consider for your career uh prospects
we got feedback first directly implemented it into the second semester orientation and it's been a good way like the sophomores have been coming more to the lunch in they've been interacting more with the Juniors who've been interacting more with the seniors I've seen a lot more like interaction between the classes and then I've had more attendance at the lunch in by extension from those two groups as well that's fantastic I do have to ask Off Script here but as part of the food prog were peopl
e required to apply these structure processing properties Paradigm to their col AR Creations not a requirement but highly encouraged okay well we'll work on that for next year on the other hand I think that one of their next events you have to come dressed as your favorite element yes the bar crawl uh coming up dress as your favorite element wigs are encouraged I'll have to figure out what a malinam wig looks like all right yeah of course so what about um actually going to national conferences b
ecause I know we've been able to send a lot of people I even saw you at msnt yes I was able to attend msnt I was able to present my research um actually the coolest part about msnt is I went to the chapter officer workshop and I got contacts for like the other material advantage chapters um we haven't really touched on this but MMS is also a material advantage chapter so I'm technically the chair for Michigan material advantage um but I got to meet people from other schools and figure out kind o
f what they' been doing and we got to talk to them about things we had been working on uh the way that they get funding the events that they put on um and so that was really cool uh plus the ability to you know present research and yeah M MMS has uh funding to do that and we're also sending one student to TMS um in Orlando believe it's Orlando Orlando yeah um this semester so yeah we really have I'm so grateful like we have the connections that we do in the department and with again the differen
t societies um ASM TMS all of them so yeah that allows us to get funding and then on top of that you know Coe um the like sofc which is the the student funding through Coe but yeah and I think a lot of our alums also contribute yes to be able to send students to conferences it's it's super it's a super great opportunity I think conferences like obviously they're kind of coming back new off of Co so I would say like the attendance at the conference is aren't as high like I remember going to MN an
d like there were some schools that brought like 20 plus students wow yeah that's crazy so this is actually a perfect segue to my next question as you're as students are going to these conferences meeting more people in MSE from other schools and in professional societies you start to get a sense of what is special about MSE as a field as a community and I'm wondering if there's anything on the student organization side that you think is special about MMS as a group of MSE students that makes it
different in some way from maybe more generic or more broadly reaching student orgs um so are you are you talking about MMS in comparison to other Material Science student orgs or just student orgs in general just in general like you've mentioned working withu for example and they have this huge umbrella you know for all Engineers essentially whereas MMS I think is a lot more uh focused in who it's trying to reach and so I'm curious if you think there's something different in that experience of
having a more uh like narrow audience in a way I feel like we have a stronger Community I think swe like the way that they get a lot of attendance is they have to incentivize people with points and with um kind of flashy things whereas like a lot of the MSE people I've talked to they're like I'll be there like it doesn't need to be like obviously we offer food we offer like things but people will just be there because their friends will be there because their Community will be there and I think
particularly our student organization is really good at being like I don't know building each other up we're not competitive with each other we're all super super helpful to each other like Steve was talking about the lunches are you can literally find an internship going to the conferences like there are so many Talks by like different professors if you were like looking for a PhD like uh person to um be your like Pi if you were to pursue a PhD like there's just like that culture of support an
d that culture of like we're all taking the same classes We're All in This Together like we're not competing for jobs like there you can do anything with an MSE degree like there's no competition there's no like we are competing for a grade or for a job like we're all just trying to help each other and we're and people I guess showing up to the MMS events is like kind of a way to do that and so I think that's a super unique thing about our department that yeah it's it's not the same as other stu
dent orgs um at our school or other schools that's really great to hear from the student perspective it's something that I want to believe that I'm seeing from The Faculty perspective but you know I I want to see it so is it real it's really great to hear students feel like they're having that experience of we're building each other up together that's um certainly one of my priorities when I teach is how to be as inclusive as possible and the best way to be inclusive is to work with the students
so they help each other how can you get even more inclusive than that so it is awesome that all of our faculty are also um you know have all bought into this idea you know we don't grade on curves we want everybody to get an A if they possibly can and so there shouldn't be any competition and it is really wonderful to hear from you that you don't feel like competition cuz there should not be competition in our program this is all about help helping everybody be the most they possibly can absolu
tely definitely not it's so collaborative honestly like MSE is like Michigan's best cap secret like people are so so collaborative and so helpful and so friendly like the community is just like that is the best part about this department for sure all right well hopefully we blow the lid off that secret and get some more faces around here um as we move into the second half of the show I want to switch gears a little bit now that you are a person with experience almost done with school congratulat
ions um You probably have some perspective on the last couple years and you know what you've learned but also I think there's some really good advice that you could have to offer different people in the audience just based on the experiences you've had so first we'll go straight to the most spicy question uh faculty are not always necessarily enely aware of what student life and student perspective is like so if you could choose just one message to get across what's that one I wish faculty knew
that this aspect of student life is what it's like so that we can understand better you know what you're experiencing and where you're coming from yeah I I do think the biggest thing is I wish faculty kept the student perspective in mind when you know designing curriculum assigning homework students want things that will encourage them to learn they want to feel like like you have to remember like the reason they signed it for the class in the first place because they thought that this topic was
interesting and they probably want to hear about the topic in the context of what they can do with it after they graduate and they want to learn about the topic in the context of a really cool research paper or a really cool way you can apply it that's maybe not something you would think of initially um and then that goes the same with homework and assignments it's like everything should have a purpose I think that's like the biggest thing like every group assignment every like homework assignm
ent like the goal should be I want them to learn this concept from this I want them to understand like this aspect of group work from this and I think like when you have a purpose like that to like what you're doing what you're teaching um it's a lot easier to get the students excited about what you're teaching them and what you're assigning them to do because they can see beyond the grade beyond the the class that's wonderful takes me back to good old days of some of our physics problems of now
we're going to solve the hydrogen atom why because it can be done and because I solved the hydrogen atom so now you're going to solve the hydrogen atom yes but you're glad that they had you do that instead of the helium atom because that's very very much harder to do yeah that's a story for another day yes uh on the other side of the experience Continuum what would you say to like a freshman or a sophomore you know someone who's closer to the start of the college journey and it's the classic so
rt of if you could talk to freshman youu right what do you wish she had known that you could pass on to someone who's just getting started um I think that freshman year the most important thing is to take care of yourself first make sure that you're making time to do things that will keep you in check save time to study and to do your laundry and to make friends and don't overwhelm yourself don't feel like you have to do it all at once like make sure you're keeping the end goal in mind so like f
or me I knew I really wanted to do research in college and that was something I knew I really wanted to do um and so I got involved in Europe and then I didn't love it and then when I joined MSE like I got involved in research but it wasn't like I felt like I had to do everything all at once I mean kind of did but that mindset just like didn't help me I felt like I was behind or like I just had to do everything it's not like high school you can't do everything like it's much better to prioritize
things that make you happy to make sure that you have like things in your life like everything has a specific thing you're leading towards because college is again not like high school you can do everything there's so many opportunities for you so you really have to like be introspective and understand what's important to you and how to spend your your time because yeah like it's College can go by really fast and so you need to know what skills you want to gain and what specific experiences are
most important and prioritize those that's great advice I should apply that to my own life and see if that helps me out with a few things so I was wondering um I've been experimenting with using instructional AIDS and it's actually given me great insight into our undergrads because I get to experience exp erience them in a very different way than when they're in my class and I've been absolutely amazed at how smart and how passionate our students are for Material Science and um I'd like to try
to get more students involved in being in IA where we actually pay you 18 bucks an hour for um doing something you know it's probably the first time in these students lives that they're actually getting paid for what we just taught them so it's a little payback and so uh does that sound like something am I am I only seeing a tiny part of the student body or is this something that students would like a wider access to more students being able to do it I think um I guess first of all I think instr
uctional AIDS are a great way to get your students interested in MSE because like you said these are the people that recently went through it they're getting to very newly apply what they learn to teach others and that's a good way to I guess get involvement or gain interest in the department and then by extension I think a lot of people who are my age like upper classmen are excited to share their experiences with the underclassman because uh we like our department we are very proud to be part
of the community we like what we're learning and so I think that is a fun experience um I'm an engineering 110 Department Ambassador which just means I teach a discussion section and I feel like I get to do that and I love talking about MSE like I joined theu University showcase subcommittee because I just wanted to represent MSE to high school students that's why I was originally Outreach chair like I just liked doing Outreach and I feel like I've heard a common sentiment among a lot of other s
tudents yep one of the other things about the uh the casting of wide net for IAS that's so important to remember is some students will have this perspective of oh I didn't get an A+ in the class I don't know anything I'm not qualified to do this and for us you know on the instructional side to say It's usually the be students who are the best teachers they know the struggle they actually understand why this stuff is hard they had to work for it that can really make a difference when connecting w
ith someone who's trying to learn this for the first time I've I've had some of my my best IAS were B minus or even C+ students because they really understood what was difficult but you know a students are good too because they know the material and I think it's good to have a mix so that one IIA isn't responsible for just one set of students but we rotate around and they get to see you know um you know it it's it's nice for the students who are learning but I think it's even better for the stud
ents who are the IIA because they start to realize that they actually know the material in a deeper way than they probably never even realized I didn't get that experience until after I graduated from college I thought when I got my first job oh no I'm G to get get my butt kicked and I go into my job and then I was just unbelievably appalled at how dumb the other people were and I'm like oh wow I must have gotten a good education cuz uh I wasn't any smarter than those people but I was better pre
pared because I went to a school that cared and so I think that happens when people become IAS they become much more self-aware that they really did actually learn something and I think that's a a a wonderful thing so much so that I I almost wonder if we shouldn't be able to give any student who wants to have an activity like this the opportunity to do it I don't think we need to mandate it but you know what you're saying being an ambassador to engine 110 or any of this you'll get the same exper
ience that wow I actually understand some of this stuff and I I just think that's a very important thing to happen along your way while you're learning yep as long as we're congratulating each other on everything that we know and have learned um on the student orgs uh front Alexa you've as you said learned a lot of things through trials and tribulations of leadership but if there's someone out there who maybe is at an institution that doesn't have an MMS you know doesn't have a MSE student Socie
ty what could you offer them for tips tricks advice to get something like that started you know if you wanted to build this from the ground up how would you get students to Rally around the concept and make it happen I think a lot of the reason that we can do what we do is we have such strong Department support so I think the first thing would be to figure out who is on your side in your corner and would support you to do something like this because we have Kristen who helps us with like picnics
a lot of the department stuff Tim obviously you're um our adviser um obviously our department chair came and spoke at our lunch in Patty helps Reserve rooms which is so so helpful um those types of connections are invaluable for starting a student work so I think you need to start talking to some of your professors seeing who would be interested in helping back you for this and then also we have a pretty big Presence at the undergraduate committee meeting so we can advocate for ourselves to the
faculty and so having that Avenue is first and foremost and then the second thing is once you're actually starting the student organization I think you have to actually look for problems um you have to look for something where it's you don't realize like it's a huge problem because you don't have it but you could see a need for it like for example uh my junior year I realized I was just thinking like about it by talking to a lot of my friends in engineering and I realized we were one of the few
departments that doesn't have like t-shirts for new declares and so like I emailed Katie the next day and I was like can we do this and so now we have free t-shirts for all like the new declared students and like that was the same with like the MC undergraduate orientation I was like we don't have a way for like the sophomores to meet each other really until like junior year when they're all in the same classes and so like it was something I was like is this even possible I'm going to email peo
ple I'm going to see what happened and like for every situation that I'm telling you too there were like three situations that I thought there was a need for and I tried but like I just realized it wasn't feasible and so you just need to like really like not everything's going to work out but like it's important to kind of see what resources you have see who on your team would support you and doing these things like I before I do anything like this I bring it up to the board meeting I'm like wou
ld people be interested in this would anyone be willing to help me is anyone really passionate about like starting this and again just realizing who's in your corner because it's it's a lot of work you can't do it alone that is great advice uh Steve did you have any last questions you wanted to ask before we start to wrap things up no I um but what's I think I know some of what's on tap for the rest of uh this term but what's going to happen near the end of the term any any wild crazy things to
for the your your last I would I would like to do some sort of like graduation event like a graduation picnic or a senior um do some sort of like casting or pictures or I don't know um so that's kind of in the works but in terms of the rest of the semester we've got you know some social events um obviously our industry tour we're doing our first ever mm formal so that'll be really exciting that's exciting yeah it's it's very exciting um it's kind of like instead of the bar craws this will be a w
ay to like include the underclassman because you don't have to be 21 to go to a formal but you can still like have fun and make a night out of it as opposed to a lot of the other events we've been limited um so that's really exciting and then obviously when it comes to wrapping up my term as president I'm really really really focused on continuity of the organization so I'm going to have all of the board members rewrite their transition documents or at least add things to update their current po
sitions because there's a lot of things in the transition documents that just don't really apply anymore we've all kind of taken our our roles and like added things to them like for example Laura being Outreach and doing merch that's not necessarily in her role on the transition document but that's like a really big part of her role and then like a lot of things don't apply anymore so like right now the treasure is technically invol technically in charge of like napkins and plates but our secret
ary is in charge of the silverware so Andy just does all of that anyway so we just we really want to make sure continuity is important I've been really trying to do that just in General I've been taking notes at every luncheon on how many people we have how much the food costs I've been writing down all the emails of every single speaker the dates I contacted them the dates they got back to me and notes on whether or not the speaker was good which is something new I implemented because I was loo
king back at Kati stuff and I was like there's nothing that says whether or not these speakers were even good and I've got a lot of feedback that oh this speaker wasn't that good and I'm like oh my gosh like the next year's president would probably want to know that like to not invite them back so yeah that's kind of my thought process when it comes to wrapping everything up that's great and I I just want to say how much I'm impressed by what our students do collectively of course it's you your
board and all the other students incredible imagination Innovation and um awesome organization and it keeps getting better every single year and I think Tim deserves some credit too for very is the heavy LIF I'm just hiding in the background but it's uh really impressive what you've been able to do and um hopefully potential employers people you're interested in working for are going to listen to this and see how incredible you are not only as a material scientist and a researcher but as a organ
izer and uh somebody who really knows how to get things done solve problems and uh that's worth a lot thank you Steve yeah couldn't say it better myself on that note I we always like to give our guests a minute or two at the end just for Shameless self-promotion so if you have anything at all you want to plug whether it's availability on the job market or how amazing the MMS formal is going to be whatever it is this is your chance to say what's happening next and what to look forward to I mean o
f course uh that I'm aass formal I would say in terms of uh job stuff I do have a job that I'm planning on doing but um obvious VI ly I have no idea where my career is going to take me so I would say in terms of self-promotion I think my personal best skills is I really try to advocate for people I really care about understanding what it is that people want and then advocating for it I consider myself like a problem solver and someone who likes to relate to others um sees opportunities and then
tries to do something about it so I think that's my my biggest self plug but yeah um I'm graduating it's going to be crazy I'm excited and nervous about what comes next but yeah I'm really grateful to the material science department and um I feel really proud uh to close this chapter because I feel like I've accomplished a lot in college and I feel like I've grown a lot as a person and I've learned a lot and I feel like I'm leaving a mark on this department and I feel really proud of that too I
completely agree it's it will be sad to see you go but you really built something excellent with MMS the last couple years it's much stronger I feel than it used to be so uh let's do a good job with elections coming soon and make sure the next patch of officers keeps the you know the train going and getting even better than it already is yep man so thank you so much for being on our podcast with us uh I've really enjoy enjoyed hearing hearing you talk about all of this and it's just great so tha
nk you very very much yes thank you very much such a pleasure all right to the audience out there we'll see you next time on the next episode of undercooled oh
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