The Science Show
is made up of young people, namely young people who are doing
their doctorates at Kiel University. They are about to tell
you their stories. At the first Science
Show, my family was there, That was in fact the first time
they even knew what I do. I think that's just so that we can show a bit
what else is out there. And if there’s someone
who is really involved in: how should I design a format
so that it engages others, so that it comes across emotionally? -
That's Ulf. He’s alwa
ys bubbling over with ideas
and is always very positive. That’s something different. And a different
atmosphere comes across. University and research is
of course an area where there is not only a lot
of ambition, but often also a lot of pressure. That can be
the pressure to compete, to publish, of external judgement,
or a lot of systemic issues. We want to show the
people behind the research. It’s not about
ranking or competing, but simply: who are the
people behind the research? Why are they p
assionate about what they do? And why can this
be interesting or even relevant
for our audience? We invented the Science Show
very early on, when the Graduate Center was
founded, because we realised that young researchers really
enjoy showing their research on stage and that way they learn
how to give presentations in a relaxed atmosphere. This has an incredible
added value for giving a scientific presentation
at conferences. The story of how it came about, of first wanting to do a
Science Slam
and then realising that the competitive part, doesn't necessarily have to be,
I think that's nice because it also offers more opportunities to really try things out. In my opinion, Katharine coaches them really well in terms
of stage presence and I think you can
tell that they both are incredibly passionate
about what they do, that they really live
what they do, that they also take
a personal interest in promoting young scientists. What I also find really
great about their work together is that
they can respond
so flexibly to suggestions. This format was born
at a particular moment: And that was 13 years ago,
I think. Ulf was on a course where I was asked to teach
the theatre side of presenting. And I brought in this idea of
preparing as you would in the theatre, with a dress rehearsal, with real rehearsals. He contributed the Science Slam idea
i.e. a crisp format that also
focusses on entertainment. And this is how we began. The way we work is unusual,
perhaps even unique in Kiel. It'
s unusual because we
deliberately include these show elements and create a
space for them to try things out, before the researchers, the
doctoral researchers go on stage. And we have been working
in this unusual way for years knowing that this
might open new doors. That's what we want and it's what we’ve achieved. I believe it is very important, especially with regard to hostility towards science, to communicate science to people
who do not have such access to it. And I think it's a good
way, to
explain things simply, to break topics
down, not to talk down to people,
but to take them with you. There’s internal and
external science communication. Actually, of course,
when scientists communicate, it's all communication. But that’s mostly about scientists communicating with
other people, the so-called external
scientific communication. And in the past, people used to say,
there's the expert, and they talk to others. Today we’d rather say, it's nicer
if they talk to each other, and when yo
u develop something new together,
when you exchange ideas. And this is, I think,
what characterises science communication, that you talk to each other. It also gives many people
who are not themselves active in science an insight into
what science does, why it exists and why it is important. We have so much knowledge
in so many specialist areas. And I think it's important that
this is shared with the public. I think we've really
seen that in recent years. That people are beginning
to understand,
perhaps, what scientific work
really is. Because somehow
it is similar between the
different disciplines. That's a point you don't really
come into contact with otherwise. And especially now with the many
formats that are available. You can kind of see
that on social media now, too, that people are
getting involved in some way and offering something. I think that's great. The university is a
part of society. Society invests in the university. And the knowledge
we generate here we have to someho
w feed back,
in order to solve social problems. Society should get
something back from us. And, if possible, something
that is also fun, where you leave the event
with the feeling “I’ve learnt something, I’ve
understood something", it was just great, I can talk about it” and
not, “Well, I could read about this, but maybe I won’t”. And the other point is,
of course, that I work on topics that are important for humanity. It would be stupid if
I worked on it in a quiet room and came to
conclusions
that make sense and then decided, well,
I'll just hand in my work and that's it. Science communication for me
is more like if you can explain something,
like your topic to a person. It can be, it can have a scientific background they can have a scientific background or they can not have a scientific background, it does not matter. If they do not understand you,
what is the point of doing science? You know? It is just like
you do it for yourself When you go to a conference and you hear maybe the
maximum
expert of your field, you realise that he is not able to
capture your attention. And so it’s ok, you can be
whoever you want, you can be the maximum expert but if you cannot explain what you
are doing, what is the meaning? Yes, research is for
people, it’s for humanity. And we are very
interested in promoting dialogue between research
or science and the public. To engage with the
audience in front of you and try not only to
have fun yourself, but to have fun together
with the audience. A
nd all under the star of science. Yes, I think that's Science Show for me. It's there for everyone. It's difficult to say, but I would say that for me, Science Show
is the entertaining presentation of the research I do. And that in a short, concise and, above all, entertaining way. Imagine you're sitting
on the sofa and then you think about it and say: For me,
that’s what Science Show is. Well, I've only done
one so far, so I can only
tell you about it. But I know, for example,
there was a boy i
n the audience, I don't know if he was ten or so,
with his mum, and they were looking at my slide,
where you search for genes in a genome, and they were
looking for them. And I thought that was really nice. Because they said, yes, and yes,
and somehow I could tell that he had understood it. And I really liked that. I come from Preetz,
which is in the neighbourhood, and we had
a show there too. And that really was
the special moment for me, being able to perform
on stage in my home town. And to s
how them, so to speak,
after so many years, what I'm doing now,
and to go on stage as a Preetzer again, but with all the
scientific background that I've acquired
in the meantime. And to be able to show them what we do, what I do in particular, that was really great. The idea is to give everyone access to science, with the threshold as low as possible. And that's why it's also a principle, for example, that everything
has to be free of charge so that everyone really has the chance to come, that
their financial situation, for example, shouldn’t be a barrier to going there. Do you have a favourite story or a special anecdote where you say: For me, this is totally Science Show, when I remember that, that is Science Show for me? I think my favourite Science Show so far has been the
‘Women in Science’ Science Show. And I think it was the moment
just before, when we really stood there and said to each
other, this is going to be great, we’re just going to have fun and
celebrate ourselves as w
omen scientists. I thought that was really nice. I felt really good after
the show. You take so much energy with you for the work itself, that of course can always be very stressful, and I think you need
something like this. For myself,
I once had the pleasure of being coached
a bit by Katharine, during the last
Excellence Initiative, and to experience that, to learn
what you can say better, what you can do better, in a really nice way. That was a highlight for me, personally. Yes, I had that to
o and it
also helped me to understand how the doctoral researchers feel on the stage. To experience that you can
really be who you are and you don’t need to put on a show,
even if it’s called “Show”, but that you can be
completely yourself. And that you yourself count in this
process of communication, too. I thought that was really great. And, again, as a person, from
one person to another, from person to person. It's not just about the topic. Hello! Hello! Thank you. Welcome to the Pumpe. Welco
me to - Science Show! Now it's all about the people and the
stories and not just the content. It's always about that, but I find it so lovely to experience what
comes to the fore. Because everyone is different. So you've really gone
through the classic process, from the course, to coaching,
to the stage. Yes. What did you learn about yourself?
How was the course for you? Thanks to the courses,
I was really able to work on it again and
develop the storyboard, to really tell a story in the
presen
tations. The courses really helped me with that. And no matter what kind of presentations
they’re now, whether for the Science Show or at congresses, it has
definitely helped a lot. And what comes into it now is: the group.
You feel that, too. Yes, now they all
come together, they’re all at the same point.
They’re all a bit nervous, but perhaps their expectations
of themselves are different. Now it's about looking after
each other, about: what habits do I have,
am I still doing them or have I pu
t them aside already?
It’s just about supporting each other. I particularly liked
that we were given a lot of room for our
own creative ideas. I really
was able to develop my own
concept in these courses. What I liked, too,
was that I could take this concept from course to
course and always add an element. At the beginning, there was Zooky -
so my project now is ‘Zooky sugar’. Zooky was really just a little
sketch on paper at the beginning, and all the training courses and workshops helped me a
lot to develop these ideas. We talk to each other a lot in course,
we support each other a lot and we give each other input
on our ideas, and feedback, too. and that has helped me a lot
to improve on all these ideas. All that within a framework
that allows you to simply try anything
out at any time. You can say something,
perhaps things you wouldn't otherwise dare to say,
because you think they’re unscientific. Because you’re afraid the group won't like it. You can just try it out and
see how pe
ople like it. Sometimes you hear
that you have to leave your comfort zone in
order to be successful. We offer a
safe space to try out new methods of presentation. What is often
forgotten is that people often bring something with them,
something that is already there. It is also very important to
us to live a feedback culture that’s not just about
talking about what I can do differently or what I can improve on, but what is
already there, what reaches people and why. People are often not
aware of
this and then they need honest, sincere feedback
to be told this, to then continue to work on things that are basically already there, in addition to the things that really are about leaving the comfort zone. Anything else?
Any more “stars and wishes” for Duygu? Sophie? Maybe just to remark that actually I think: It comes across that you are enjoying it.
I just love that you have this goal:
You will enjoy it, we will enjoy it.
Everyone will be happy. I like how you always
came back to your titl
e. So that’s a kind of common thread. I think the structure
became more clear and it's even more interesting
to follow you now. I really liked that. What I find particularly great about the
courses is that everyone is addressed personally. They don’t say: you have a great presence,
you can already stand there really well; everyone has their unique
way of doing things and I thought it was great
that they worked with this. And I think that's what this
individual approach to someone, emphasizing t
heir strengths,
is something there was no room for, during
my studies, and I think that relatively little time
is spent on this otherwise: really going into
individual strengths during the presentation of - whatever. I think that has provided
a really great foundation. Just really breaking down
the presentation, i.e. the body language and the
gestures and facial expressions. The content was not
important at first. It was more about what my
body was doing, how I felt about it, how can I
get over
feeling bad while doing it? I think that was a
really great goal, to start by breaking down the presentation,
not the content. I have the feeling
that at the university you always learn: first your content,
then your presentation has to fit it somehow. I really learned a lot
in the course, especially how to somehow
keep people’s attention so it's not too
boring or trite, but somehow it's
well, a bit, a bit entertaining. The two of them put a lot
of emphasis on this. Come on, what can you see fr
om there?
Stand up. Come on, come on. Don’t be shy. Olé First of all,
close your eyes. And if your eyes
are already closed, try to remember
your last conflict. For me, it's always
really nice to see that the scientists go
out of their labs and are simply there
where people are. So it's not that people
come to the scientists, but the other way around,
you go to where life is happening and that creates
a very special atmosphere. How a topic is presented
in such a short and concise way, in a way th
at laypeople can also understand. You can just sit down
and learn something. The topic: often you have a short
description, just the title, and then you have a different idea in your head
than what actually happens. Scientists are often
accused of sitting in an ivory tower
doing research. I think that it is our task -
because we ourselves are convinced that we are
doing things that are relevant to society -
to inform society about them and ultimately to provide
the public or society with informa
tion
from science, so that the public can form its own,
well-founded opinion. They are also usually very
entertaining, due to the training. So it's not that it's
just conveying dry facts, but it's fun to listen to
and these are the highlights, to hear, briefly and
succinctly, where people are researching, what's new,
where innovations are coming from. I was at the STUDIO cinema
in the evening and I thought, oh, you don't have to be
there so early, there won't be that many people.
And then I got
there: There was no free chair, at all,
it was fully packed with people. All kinds of people,
I don't know, I don't think necessarily just people
from the university, but from all kinds of areas. The presentations were just
all great and all so professionally done and
the women were really able to present themselves as personalities,
and convey their work so brilliantly. You could really feel it,
there was such a great atmosphere. Of course there was a lot of
applause and in between you could ha
ve a drink and so on, it was just great. If this was your first Science Show:
What did you think of it? I thought it was really super. I think that
people tend to keep to themselves in
their own subject. And I found it so super
to get such a colourful mix. So I think that you
get new impulses, too. That was very cool. Personally, I liked astrophysics best because I love the
subject and I thought he did it really well. With the experiments, the balloons.
That was very sweet. I think this impress
ion is not enough
to have a complete overview. But with some things I did think, wow, so more like,
wow, interesting.. I would actually
read up on that myself. Would you come again? I definitely would.
Yes, absolutely. If you could say something to Ulf and Katharine now, what would that be? That they should continue
the way they’re doing. I think it's really nice and
that they keep doing their thing, I think that's really good. All in all, for the future of science communication, it’s important
that we tell people's stories. What I also think is
great about the Science Show is
that it offers young scientists a platform. Otherwise, it is often just the professors who are
in the foreground and in the public eye. The Science Show
also creates role models,
so that young people can see: Oh, a career in science
seems really exciting and doesn't have to be boring. The connection with art,
the connection with culture, just getting out
of the academic grey. Exciting, fast, young. Young, dynamic
, inspiring. Entertaining, surprising and lively. Honestly, I just want to thank them. Because they made me a different person
in a good way. Not just like scientifically, it is just that I can communicate
better with other people. I am more open, I have confidence
in me and so on, like you know, they transformed me,
to a better version and I cannot thank them enough for this. Keep going. Keep going, because even just if we are not
considering the science communication aspect, that coaching is a
n activity, that all the people in the
university need. I think I would just say thank
you, that was a great opportunity. I learned a lot and
I had a lot of fun.
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