>> FROM THE WORLD OF POLITICS
TO THE WORLD OF BUSINESS, THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER." ♪ >> LIVE FROM WASHINGTON, DC. >> FROM BLOOMBERG'S WASHINGTON,
DC STUDIOS TO OUR TV AUDIENCES WORLDWIDE, WELCOME TO "BALANCE
OF POWER." ALONGSIDE KAILEY LEINZ I AM JOE
, MATHIEU. KAILEY: THE SUPREME COURT DELIVERS A
WIN FOR DONALD TRUMP IN A UNANIMOUS DECISION THAT WILL
KEEP HIM ON THE BALLOT IN COLORADO AND ACROSS THE COUNTRY.
WE WILL GET REACTION THIS HOUR. JOE:
SUPER TUESDAY JUST A DAY OFF WITH 16 STATES HOLDI
NG
NOMINATING CONTEST, AND DONNA FROM HOLDING A COMMANDING LEAD
OVER NIKKI HALEY. WE WILL SPEAK WITH THE KEY
HALEY SUPPORTER, GOVERNOR CHRIS SUNUNU. KAILEY:
AND QUESTIONS OVER HOSTAGES PERSIST. WE WILL GET
PERSPECTIVE FROM JONATHAN PANIC OFF OF THE ATLANTIC COUNCIL.
JOE, HAPPY MONDAY ON WHAT WILL BE AN INCREDIBLY BUSY WEEK HERE
IN WASHINGTON. NOT ONLY SUPER TUESDAY
TOMORROW, THE STATE OF THE UNION THURSDAY I'M A POTENTIAL
PARTIAL GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN THAT COULD BEGIN AT MIDNIGHT
FRIDAY, BUT WE ST
ART WITH NEWS FROM THE SUPREME COURT AS IT
RELATES TO FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP. JOE:
THAT'S HOW THE WEEK BEGAN. PRESIDENT TRUMP REACTED TO THE
SUPREME COURT'S DECISION TODAY TO ALLOW HIM ON THE BALLOT
FOLLOWING CHALLENGES ON THE 14TH AMENDMENT. HERE HE IS. >> I WANT TO START BY THANKING
THE SUPREME COURT FOR ITS UNANIMOUS DECISION TODAY.
IT WAS A VERY IMPORTANT DECISION, VERY WELL-CRAFTED.
I THINK IT WILL GO A LONG WAY TOWARD BRINGING OUR COUNTRY
TOGETHER, WHICH OUR COUNTRY NEEDS. KAILEY: JOINING
US FOR MORE ON THAT STORY AND OTHER TOP STORIES,
AND SHE REPORT ON THE SUPREME COURT FOR US, IT'S WORTH NOTING
THAT WHILE ALL NINE JUSTICES RULED THAT HE SHOULD REMAIN ON
THE BALLOT IN COLORADO AND EVERYWHERE ELSE, THEY DIDN'T
MAKE A DECISION ABOUT THE QUESTION OF INSURRECTION AND
WHETHER OR NOT HE ENGAGED IN IT. IT ESSENTIALLY WAS A DECISION
THAT SAID IT'S NOT UP TO INDIVIDUAL STATES, IT IS UP TO
CONGRESS. >> ONE OF THE REASONS FOLKS
THOUGHT GOING IN THAT HE WAS LIKELY TO WIN THIS CASE WAS HE
H
AD A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO WIN IT.
ONE OF THOSE WAYS WAS A COURT COULD HAVE SAID HE DIDN'T
ACTUALLY ENGAGE IN INSURRECTION. THE COURT WHEN A DIFFERENT
DIRECTION AND SAID THE POWER TO TAKE THEM OFF THE BALLOT, THE
STATE SOME HAVE THAT POWER, IT'S UP TO CONGRESS TO DECIDE
HOW TO ENFORCE THE INSURRECTION CLAUSE. JOE:
WHAT IS THE ACTUAL ARGUMENT HERE, THE INSURRECTION CLAUSE
WAS WRITTEN AFTER THE CIVIL WAR, INTENDING TO KEEP
CONFEDERATES FROM HOLDING OFFICE, RIGHT? >> EXACTLY. IT SAID THAT SOMEON
E TOOK THE
OATH AND THEN ENGAGED IN INSURRECTION CANNOT THEN TAKE
OFFICE AGAIN. THE QUESTION WAS DOESN'T APPLY
IN THIS CIRCUMSTANCE WHERE DONALD TRUMP ALLEGEDLY INCITED
THE JANUARY 6 RIGHT. KAILEY:
WE HEARD TRUMP HERALDING THE DECISION FROM MAR-A-LAGO TODAY.
ANOTHER CASE PERTAINS TO THE IMMUNITY QUESTION HERE IN
WASHINGTON, WHETHER HE IS IMMUNE FROM PROSECUTION AS A
FORMER PRESIDENT. THOSE ARGUMENTS ARE SCHEDULED
FOR APRIL 22. SHOULD WE DRAW A LINE BETWEEN
THE TIMELINE FOR THE COURT TO HEAR ARGU
MENTS AND THEN RULE IN
THIS CASE TO A SIMILAR TIMELINE POTENTIALLY IN THAT CASE?
OR BECAUSE OF THE DEADLINE THAT THIS HAPPENED SO QUICKLY? >> I WOULD NOT ASSUME THAT THE
COURT ASSIGNED THAT CASE AS QUICKLY AS IT DECIDED THIS CASE.
HERE WE HAD SUPER TUESDAY, AND THIS WASN'T A DAY WHEN THEY
WERE NORMALLY SCHEDULED TO TAKE THE BENCH.
THE OPINION WAS NOT HANDED DOWN FROM THE BENCH, IT WAS HANDED
DOWN ON THE COURTS WEBSITE AND HARDCOPIES IN THE PRESS OFFICE.
THEY CLEARLY WERE TRYING TO BEAT THAT DEAD
LINE OF SUPER
TUESDAY. WITH AN IMMUNITY CASE, THERE IS
A FOCUS ON THE ELECTION, WHETHER THERE WILL BE A TRIAL
BEFORE THE ELECTION, BUT THE COURT DOESN'T HAVE A DEADLINE
LIKE THAT TO PROMPT THEM TO SAY WE GET -- NEED TO GET A RULING
OUT BY SUCH AND SUCH DATE. JOE: THANKS FOR GETTING US STARTED. MEANWHILE EVEN AS NIKKI HALEY
WINS HER FIRST RACE, AS THE CANDIDATES PREPARE TO FACE
OFTEN TOMORROW SUPER TUESDAY RACES, A MAJOR STOP ON THE ROAD
TO THE WHITE HOUSE. LET'S BRING IN NANCY COOK FOR
MORE. THE
RE IS A LOT OF TALK ON NIKKI
HALEY'S LAST STAND, ESSENTIALLY TOMORROW.
MATH IS GOING TO BECOME VERY DIFFICULT FOR HER IF THE POLLS
ARE CORRECT. >> WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT ONE
OF THE REASON SUPER TUESDAY IS SUCH A BIG DEAL IS THAT MORE
THAN A THIRD OF THE DELEGATES THAT A CANDIDATE NEEDS TO
CLEANS THE REPUBLICAN NOMINATION ARE AWARDED TOMORROW
NIGHT. THAT INCLUDES IN LARGE STATES
LIKE CALIFORNIA. WE ARE EXPECTING DONALD TRUMP
TO REALLY SWEEP THOSE STATES, AND THAT WILL NOT NECESSARILY
CLINCH THE
NOMINATION OFFICIALLY AFTER TOMORROW, BUT
IF HE DOES AS WELL AS WE EXPECT, IT WILL MAKE THE PATH
FOR HER TO TAKE THE NOMINATION BASICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
THE ONLY CONTEST SHE HAS WON SO FAR HAS BEEN IN WASHINGTON DC. JOE: -- KAILEY:
IS THERE ANY NUMBER WE SHOULD LOOK AT THAT WOULD SUGGEST THE
FORMER PRESIDENT'S CANDIDACY MIGHT BE IN MORE TROUBLE IN A
GENERAL ELECTION SCENARIO SHOULD HE BE THE REPUBLICAN
NOMINEE? IS THERE MARGIN THAT WOULD
SUGGEST TROUBLE FOR HIM IN THE REPUBLICAN RACE? >> I WOULD N
OT SAY THE DELEGATE
COUNT OR HOW MUCH HE WINS BY MARGIN WILL SUGGEST HIS
VULNERABILITIES. THINK WE CAN SEE THE
VULNERABILITIES IN THE LOT OF THE POLLING WE'VE SEEN, EVEN IN
THE BLOOMBERG NEWS MORNING CONSULT POLL THAT CAME OUT LAST
WEEK, IT HIGHLIGHTED SOME OF HIS ISSUES.
THERE WERE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO SAID THEY THOUGHT HE WAS
DANGEROUS. THAT IS A BIG DEAL, THAT IS A
REAL RED FLAG TO THE CAMPAIGN. THE OTHER THING I'M HEARING
FROM TRUMP OFFICIALS IS THE -- THAT THEY ARE -- THEY'RE
STANDING WITH
WHITE SUBURBAN WOMEN. GIVEN PROBLEMS OF ABORTION
ACCESS IN A NUMBER OF STATES, THEY ARE WORRIED ABOUT REACHING
THAT POPULATION. SO THINK WE CAN SEE SOME OF THE
WARNING SIGNS ALREADY. JUST WITH REPUBLICAN PRIMARY
VOTERS, TRUMP REMAINS VERY POPULAR. JOE:
NIKKI HALEY WAS ASKED ABOUT THE PLEDGE ON SUNDAY MORNING
TELEVISION, WHETHER SHE WOULD ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP IF HE ENDS
UP BEING THE NOMINEE. THEY HAD TO TAKE THAT PLEDGE TO
GET ON THE DEBATE STAGE. DONALD TRUMP WAS NOT ONE OF
THEM AND DID NOT SHOW
UP AT ANY OF THE DEBATES.
SHE IS SIGNALING THAT SHE MIGHT NOT BE PREPARED TO DO THAT AS
THE RNC TAKES ON NEW LEADERSHIP. WILL IT MATTER AT THAT POINT? >> I THINK SHE HAS SORT OF
ALIENATED TRUMP'S MAGA THEY SAID I'M NOT SURE IT REALLY
MATTERS IF SHE ENDORSES HIM. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN
FINDING HER CAMPAIGN AND SUPPORTING HER, A LOT OF
COLLEGE EDUCATED, WEALTHIER REPUBLICANS, A LOT OF BIG
DONORS, PEOPLE WHO ARE JUST LOATH TO BACK TRUMP REGARDLESS,
I FEEL LIKE THAT'S NOT REALLY THE AUDIENCE THAT
IS GOING TO
RUSH TO SUPPORT HIM. KAILEY: NANCY COOK JOINING US THIS
EVENING AHEAD OF SUPER TUESDAY TOMORROW, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS SPOKE OVER THE WEEKEND IN SELMA,
ALABAMA, CALLING FOR A TEMPORARY CEASE-FIRE BETWEEN
ISRAEL AND HAMAS. >> GIVEN THE IMMENSE SCALE OF
SUFFERING IN GAZA, THERE MUST BE AN IMMEDIATE CEASE-FIRE FOR
AT LEAST THE NEXT SIX WEEKS, WHICH IS WHAT IS CURRENTLY ON
THE TABLE. KAILEY: JOINING US IS DAN FLATLEY WHO
REPORTS ON NATIONAL SECURITY MATTERS FOR US.
AS
WE HEARD FROM THE VICE PRESIDENT, A SIX-WEEK
CEASE-FIRE IS ON THE TABLE, AND YET TALKS ARE NOT PROGRESSING
BECAUSE OF ISRAEL TRYING TO VERIFY THE STATUS OF HOSTAGES
HELD BY HAMAS. HOW DIFFICULT ARE THESE
NEGOTIATIONS RIGHT NOW? >> THESE NEGOTIATIONS ARE
INCREDIBLY DIFFICULT. YOU'RE STILL DEALING WITH AN
ACTIVE WAR ZONE, ESSENTIALLY, IN GAZA.
YOU ARE DEALING WITH TWO SIDES IT DON'T REALLY TRUST EACH
OTHER , THE ISRAELIS AND THE LEADERSHIP UP EN MASSE.
AND IT'S A FRAUGHT POLITICAL SITUATION HERE
IN THE U.S.
WHERE YOU HAVE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION THAT IS COMING
UNDER FIRE FOR NOT BEING HARDER ON THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT IN
TERMS OF THE HUMANITARIAN TOLL OF THIS OFFENSE IN GAZA.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND. THE ISRAELI OPPOSITION LEADER
IS HERE IN WASHINGTON THIS WEEK TO MEET WITH OFFICIALS.
THERE IS SOME FRICTION THERE BETWEEN HIM AND BENJAMIN
NETANYAHU, SO IT'S A VERY, LOCATED SITUATION.
THERE DOES SEEM TO BE THE FRAMEWORK FOR SOME SORT OF
CEASE-FIRE AS VICE PRESID
ENT HARRIS MENTIONED, BUT WHETHER
THEY CAN REACH AN AGREEMENT AND BRING THAT TO FRUITION ANYTIME
SOON IS VERY MUCH UP IN THE AIR AT THIS POINT. JOE:
ISRAEL SAYS IT WILL NOT SEE NEGOTIATORS TO CAIRO TO TALK
ABOUT A CEASE-FIRE UNTIL HE GETS A LIST OF ALL THE HOSTAGES
AND THEIR CONDITIONS. WILL HAMAS BE TRUSTED TO
PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION? >> IS VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY AT
THIS POINT. OBVIOUSLY THERE A TRUST ISSUE
HERE, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. SEEING A LIST OR SOME SORT OF
PROOF OF LIFE, SO TO SPEAK,
IN ADVANCE OF ANY KIND OF TALKS IS
PARAMOUNT. BUT FROM THE ISRAELI PERSPECTIVE, EVEN IF YOU SEE
THAT ON PAPER, HOW COULD YOU REALLY TRUST THAT, JUST LOOKING
AT IT FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE. WE HAD A REPORT RECENTLY ABOUT
SEXUAL VIOLENCE ON OCTOBER 7 AND SOME OTHER D VERYAMNING
REPORTS AND EVIDENCE AROUND THAT EVENT.
SO IT HAS TO PROCEED IN A STEP-BY-STEP BASIS AND YOU NEED
TO ESTABLISH THAT REST -- THAT TRUST, AND RIGHT NOW YOU DON'T
HAVE THAT. JOE: BLOOMBERG'S DAN FLATLEY KEEPING
US UP-TO-DATE. CO
MING UP, BACK TO THE CAMPAIGN
TRAIL, AND NIKKI HALEY'S POLITICAL FUTURE, AND A
CONVERSATION WITH CHRIS SUNUNU. THAT'S NEXT ON "BALANCE OF
POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. JOE: THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER"
ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. I'M JOE MATHIEU, ALONGSIDE
KAILEY LEINZ IN WASHINGTON. WITH JUST ONE DAY LEFT UNTIL
SUPER TUESDAY, REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR CHRIS SUNUNU OF NEW
HAMPSHIRE SPOKE WITH US ABOUT THIS ELECTION CYCLE AND
SPECIFICALLY HIS SUPPORT FOR NIKKI HALEY.
WE BEGAN OUR CONVERSATION WITH AND
I OWN TOMORROW'S ELECTIONS
AND WHETHER HALEY CAN STAY COMPETITIVE.
HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY. >> IT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHAT
ACTUALLY HAPPENS. IN MOST OF THE STATES, THERE'S
A COUPLE OF REMEMBER. FIRST, THE CAMPAIGNS HAVEN'T
REALLY BEEN IN THE STATES OTHER THAN THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
NIKKI IS HITTING THE GROUND, WORKING VERY HARD, STATE TO
STATE, TOWN TO TOWN, AND EVERYWHERE SHE GOES, HER
NUMBERS GO UP. YOU CAN'T SAY THAT FOR THE
FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP, BUT EVERYWHERE NIKKI HALEY GOES,
HER
NUMBERS GET BETTER. SHE'S ALLOCATED A LOT OF
RESOURCES TO THE SUPER TUESDAY STATES. IT IS AND IF YOU WIN THIS MANY
OR THAT MANY STATES THEN YOU GO OR DON'T KNOW.
YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT IS COMING AHEAD AND HOW YOU
ALLOCATE WHATEVER RESOURCES YOU HAVE, THE MESSAGING THAT WILL
COME OUT OF IT, THE DEMOGRAPHICS AND RULES IN EACH
OF THOSE STATES BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT.
EVERY CAMPAIGN HAS DIFFERENT INFLECTION POINTS.
THE DAY AFTER SUPER TUESDAY IS A BIG ONE ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT
MOVE IS. I DON
'T KNOW IF THERE IS AN
EXACT NUMBER YOU CAN PUT ON IT. HERE'S WHERE WE ARE, HERE'S
WHAT WE'VE GOT LEFT, AND WHOEVER -- HERE IS WHERE THE
OPPORTUNITY REALLY LIES. JOE: THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN BELIEVE THEY
WILL HIT THE MAGIC NUMBER BY THE 19TH OF MARCH AT THE
LATEST. I WONDER IF THAT MATCHES YOUR MATH, YOU'RE
TALKING ABOUT A RAPIDLY CLOSING WINDOW.
THAT'S THE CASE, IS THIS NIKKI HALEY'S LAST STAND TONIGHT? >>
THEY'VE BEEN CALLING TRUMP THE PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE SINCE IOWA.
THEY TRIED TO PASS A RESOLUTION
THAT HE SHOULD JUST BE THE
PRESUMPTIVE NOMINEE. JOE: THIS WOULD ACTUALLY BE ON THE
WAY TO 1250. >> AT SOME POINT, ONE OF THE
CANDIDATES WILL CROSS THE MAGIC NUMBER.
THAT GOES INTO THE CALCULATION AND TERMS OF WHAT STATES COME
NEXT. YOU WILL EXCUSE ME IF I DON'T
TRUST TRUMP MATH. DID THAT IN 2016 WHEN HE SAID
HE WOULD BE THE MOST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE PRESIDENT IN
HISTORY AND HE WAS AN ABSOLUTE EMBARRASSMENT WHEN IT CAME TO
FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY. TRUMP AND MATH, THEY DON'T MIX
SO WELL TOGETHER, S
O I WILL BACK OFF OF THAT.
NIKKI IS WORKING HARD TO TRY TO WIN A FEW STATES ON SUPER
TUESDAY AND GARNER ENOUGH SUPPORT TO KEEP SOME MOMENTUM
GOING SO THAT SHE CAN STAY COMPETITIVE AND WHAT GOES
FORWARD. KAILEY: TALKING ABOUT MATH, NIKKI HALEY
LIKES TO TOUT THAT SHE IS AN ACCOUNTANT.
TO JOE'S POINT, IT IS NOT CLEAR THAT MATH EXISTS THAT COULD GET
HER TO 1250 THE WAY THINGS ARE GOING NOW.
SO IF IT'S NOT ABOUT GETTING THE NUMBER OF DELEGATES TO
SECURE THE NOMINATION, IS IT REALLY ABOUT 2028? >> THE
REASON TO STAY IN THE
RACE IS TO COLLECT ENOUGH DELEGATES TO BE PRESIDENT.
THAT IS NIKKI'S MISSION. SHE'S NOT HERE TO MAKE A POINT,
SHE'S NOT PUTTING YOURSELF ON THE LINE, BEING OUT THERE EVERY
SINGLE DAY, TIRELESSLY, FOR ANYTHING OTHER THAN BEING
PRESIDENT AND GETTING THE COUNTRY BACK ON TRACK.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE. IT'S NOT ABOUT THESE OTHER
CANDIDATES WHO TRY TO GET IN JUST TO MAKE A POINT OR SELL A
BOOK. NIKKI IS ABOUT FOCUSING ON THE
COUNTRY AND WHAT SHE CAN BRING TO THE TAB
LE, AND AS A
REPUBLICAN, I LOVE THE FACT THAT SHE WINS HANDILY AGAINST
JOE BIDEN. SHE WINS UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT.
TRUMP CANNOT DO THAT. JOE:
SHE SIGNALED YESTERDAY THAT SHE MIGHT NOT ENDORSE DONALD TRUMP,
SHE NO LONGER SEES HERSELF BOUND TO A PLEDGE TO AN RNC
THAT SHE SEES CHANGING. IT IS CHANGING AS WE SPEAK.
DO YOU SUPPORT THAT DECISION AND FEEL THE SAME WAY? >> SHE DIDN'T SAY SHE WOULDN'T.
SHE DID NOT SAY THAT. IN THE PRESS IS ASKING YOU AS A
CANDIDATE IF YOU'RE GOING TO SUPPORT THE PERSON Y
OU'RE
RUNNING AGAINST, IT IS A RIDICULOUS QUESTION. JOE: I'M TRYING TO BE CAREFUL AND
FAIR, SHE IS SAYING SHE MIGHT NOT. >> SHE SAID SHE MIGHT NOT, AND
AGAIN, IT'S A RIDICULOUS QUESTION, HAS TRUMP COMMITTED
TO SUPPORTING THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE IF IT'S NOT HIM?
OF COURSE HE HASN'T. IT IS THIS FAUX OUTRAGE, WHEN
TRUMP HAS GOTTEN AWAY WITH COMPLETELY KICKING DIRT IN THE
FACE OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, MAKING HIS
OWN RULES AS HE GOES, BUT HE GETS AWAY WITH IT.
AT THE END OF THE DAY
, NIKKI WILL CITE WHAT -- DECIDE WHAT
SHE'S GOING TO DO. A LOT OF FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT
JOE BIDEN IS NOT THE FUTURE OF AMERICA.
THAT IS A REAL PROBLEM FOR A WHOLE VARIETY OF REASONS.
WE COULD DO AN HOUR-LONG SHOW ABOUT THAT.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS NOT JUST ABOUT WHO WINS A PRESIDENCY,
IT'S ABOUT WHO BRINGS THE REST OF THE PARTY OVER THE LINE.
I KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT, BUT IT IS SO IMPORTANT.
AS REPUBLICANS, WE ARE CHART OF LOSING.
WE LOST IN 2020, WE LOST IN 2022 LOST WITH TRUMP AS THE
STANDARDBEAR
ER AND THE FRONT END MESSENGER OF THE PARTY. HE COULD SNEAK BY, BUT NIKKI
WOULD WIN IT IN DROVES. AT THE END OF THE DAY, I
THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF FUNNY THEY WOULD EVEN ASK HIM THE
QUESTION BECAUSE HE IS STILL VERY MUCH -- SHE IS STILL VERY
MUCH IN THE RACE AND FIGHTING HARD.
EVERY NEW VOTER THAT COMES OUT THAT TYPICALLY MIGHT NOT VOTE
IN A PRIMARY THAT COMES OUT ON SUPER TUESDAY IS LIKELY NIKKI
HALEY MOTOR. GETTING THE VOTE OUT, NOT JUST
PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE CONSERVATIVE BASE THAT TRUMP
HAS,
EVERY NEW VOTER IS ANOTHER BIT OF OPPORTUNITY.
THAT IS ALL YOU ARE THINKING ABOUT AS A CANDIDATE, HOW DO
YOU WIN? KAILEY: WHAT ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE
THINKING ABOUT AS A SURROGATE? WE HAVE ASKED THE QUESTION, THE
IDEA THAT YOU WOULD SUPPORT TRUMP SHOULD HE BE THE
REPUBLICAN NOMINEE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO JOE BIDEN.
YOU JUST AS -- DESCRIBED HIM AS SOMEONE KICKING DIRT IN THE
FACE OF REPUBLICANS, I BELIEVE THERE'S A CHANCE HE COULD BE
CONVICTED OF A FELONY IN THE NOT SO DISTANT FUTURE.
IS THERE ANYTHIN
G YOU WOULD CHANGE -- THAT WOULD CHANGE
YOUR MIND ON THAT? >> I WANT A STRONG TICKET. I'VE DONE MY FOUR TERMS AND I'M
DECIDED TO STEP DOWN. MY FOCUS IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE
IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. I'M JUST SPEAKING FOR MY
POSITION AS GOVERNOR AND I THINK YOU COULD TRANSITION IT
TO 49 OTHER STATES. THE PROBLEM WITH TRUMP IS THAT
HE'S NOT GOING TO BE OUT TO RAISE MONEY BECAUSE HE HAS
ALREADY SPENT $60 MILLION ON HIS LEGAL FEES WITH PROBABLY
ANOTHER $50 MILLION TO GO. WHO IS GOING TO GIVE THE RNC
MONEY, KN
OWING A LOT OF THAT MONEY MIGHT JUST GO TO PAY OFF
HIS LEGAL FEES? IS GOING TO PUT A LOT OF
PRESSURE ON CANDIDATES TO RAISE MONEY INTO THEIR OWN
ORGANIZATIONS. I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE
REPUBLICAN TICKET AS STRONG AS I CAN.
I'M A CONSERVATIVE, I BELIEVE IN THOSE IDEALS.
I'M VERY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WHETHER TRUMP
IS THERE OR NOT. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO
GET BACK TO BELIEVING THE INDIVIDUAL COMES FIRST, NOT
LIBERAL ELITISTS IN WASHINGTON'S WHO ARE STANDING
ON THE SHOULDER
S OF AMERICAN FAMILIES BUT ARE BEING TOLD HOW
TO LIVE THEIR LIVES. PEOPLE ARE SICK AND TIRED OF IT.
THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE CANDIDATES
UP AND DOWN THE BALLOT AND CONNECT WITH THAT AND SAY WE
WILL ACTIVELY MAKE A CHANGE. WERE NOT JUST GOING TO RAISE
MORE MONEY TO TRY TO GET OURSELVES REELECTED, BUT BE AN
ACTIVE PART OF A POSITIVE PROCESS THAT GETS THIS COUNTRY
BACK ON TRACK. JOE: NIKKI HALEY WON WASHINGTON,
D.C.'S PRIMARY OVER THE WEEKEND. SHE IS THE FIRST EVER WOMAN T
O
WIN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY CONTEST. I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD
SAY THAT OUT LOUD IN THIS CONVERSATION.
THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS CROWNED HER THE QUEEN OF THE SWAMP.
WHAT WOULD YOU CALL HER? >> REMEMBER THAT SWAMP TRUMP
WAS GOING TO DRAIN? DRAINING THE SWAMP, THAT WAS
HIS LINE. I'M STILL WAITING FOR IT.
TRUMP HAD THE BAD MANAGEMENT AND COULD NOT DO THE JOB.
THE SWAMP FEARS NIKKI HALEY BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T TAKE CRAP
OFF ANYBODY. SHE'S GOING TO LIMIT THE
BUREAUCRACY AND CUT THROUGH THE PROTOCOLS THAT STICK
THIS
COUNTRY BACK FROM DEVELOPMENT AND MOVING THINGS FORWARD.
SHE BREAKS THROUGH THAT. SHE WAS THE TEA PARTY GOVERNOR.
SHE WAS THE FIRST FEMALE WOMAN OF COLOR GOVERNOR OF A SOUTHERN
STATE. SHE CARES -- CARRIES THAT EXPERTISE.
SHE IS THE FULL PACKAGE. AND YOU ADD THE FACT THAT SHE
IS INCREDIBLY LIKABLE. INDEPENDENTS ARE COMING ON
BOARD BECAUSE SHE IS SO LIKABLE. SHE'S GETTING 45% OF THE VOTE
IN SOME OF THESE STATES. A LOT OF REPUBLICANS IN THE
BASE ARE SAYING WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON FOR THE NEXT GEN
ERATION
OF LEADERSHIP. WE'VE GOT TO MOVE ON AND MAKE
IT HAPPEN. KAILEY: THAT WAS OUR CONVERSATION WITH
NEW HAMPSHIRE GOVERNOR CHRIS SUNUNU.
AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO SUPER TUESDAY THE FOCUS ON THE MYSTIC
POLITICS HERE IN THE U.S., BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR EYES ON
POLITICS OVERSEAS, INCLUDING CHINA, WHERE THE PREMIER WILL NOT HOLD A PRESS BRIEFING THAT
HAD BEEN IN PLACE SINCE 1993. LET'S GO LIVE TO HONG KONG WITH
YVONNE MAN JOINING US NOW. IF WERE NOT GOING TO GET THIS
BRIEFING, WHAT WILL WE GET OUT OF THI
S YEAR'S CONGRESS? YVONNE:
WE WILL GET THAT WORKED REPORT FROM THE REVERE WHICH HAPPENS
ON TUESDAY -- FROM THE PREMIER. THAT WILL BE THE KEY FOCUS. THERE WILL BE NO ANNUAL PRESS
CONFERENCE, REALLY BREAKING AWAY FROM 30 YEARS AS YOU
MENTION. THE PRESS CONFERENCE WAS A RARE
PLATFORM TO RELATE THE DIRECTION FOR THE NEXT FEW
YEARS. IT WAS ALSO A CHANCE FOR THE
NUMBER TWO TO DEVELOP A MORE INFORMAL REPORT WITH THE PUBLIC.
THIS COMING AT A TIME WHEN XI IS TRYING TO REBUILD CONFIDENCE
INTO THIS ECONOMY
THAT IS STRUGGLING WITH THE REAL ESTATE
CRISIS AND GEOPOLITICAL TENSIONS WITH THE U.S.
IT ALSO COMES AT A TIME AND PRESIDENT XI IS CONSOLIDATING
HIS POWER AND CONTINUES TO DO SO AS HE SECURES THAT THIRD
HISTORIC TERM AS WELL. WE HAVE SEEN THE PREMIER WITH
THE DISPATCH AT THE G20, FOR EXAMPLE.
WE'VE SEEN THE ROLE OF THE VERMEER BEING DIMINISHED AS XI
TRIES TO ELEVATE AND PUT MORE PORKY'S -- MORE PARTIES THAT
USED TO BE DOMINATED BY THE PREMIER AS WELL.
WE DID HEAR FROM THE FOREIGN MINISTRY SPOKE
SWOMAN THAT DID
DEFEND THAT MOVE OF SCRAPPING THE REGULAR PRESS BRIEFING.
SHE SAID I KNOW YOU WORRY ABOUT NON-TRANSPARENCY, THOSE WORRIES
ARE UNNECESSARY. JOE: IS THERE ANY OTHER SCENARIO IN
WHICH A SENIOR GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL IS INTERACTING WITH
THE MEDIA LIKE THIS ANYWHERE IN CHINA? YVONNE:
WE WILL STILL SEE THE FOREIGN MINISTER, HE WILL STILL BE
HAVING A PRESS BRIEFING, SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO
LOOK AT AS WELL. AS WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT,
WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT THE AGENDA THIS YEAR.
ONE
ITEM THAT WAS SCRAPPED WAS AN AREA TO DISCUSS PERSONNEL
APPOINTMENTS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
THAT IS A RARE OMISSION TO THIS AGENDA.
IT INDICATES IN SOME WAYS THAT PERHAPS WE MIGHT NOT BE HEARING
ANY SORT OF PERSONNEL CHANGES REGARDING THE NEW FOREIGN
MINISTER, WHOEVER THAT MAY BE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE'RE
WATCHING CLOSELY, WHAT IT MEANS FOR U.S. AND CHINA RELATIONS. WE MIGHT BE SEEING SOME
CONTINUITY, BUT ALSO MIGHT MEAN HE WILL STAY IN THAT ROLE FOR
SOME TIME. JOE: WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO T
HE
CONVERSATION ON THE CHINA CHINA SHOW, YVONNE MAN, WE
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. >> YOUR REMARK YESTERDAY GOT A
LOT OF ATTENTION BECAUSE THEY WERE PRETTY SHARP AGAINST
ISRAEL. IS THERE DISTANCE BETWEEN YOU
AND PRESIDENT BIDEN ON THIS ISSUE? VP. HARRIS:
THE PRESIDENT AND NOT HAVE BEEN ALIGNED AND CONSISTENT FROM THE
VERY BEGINNING. . -- ISRAEL HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND
ITSELF TO MANY INNOCENT CIVILIANS HAVE BEEN KILLED.
WE NEED TO GET MORE AID IN AND MORE HOSTAGES OUT AND THAT
REMAINS O
UR POSITION. KAILEY: KAILEY:
THAT WAS VICE PRESIDENT, THE HARDEST SWIGGING REPORTERS
TODAY A DAY IN WHICH YOU MET WITH THE ISRAELI WAR CABINET
MEMBER BENNY GANTZ. OVER THE WEEKEND SHE PUSHED FOR
A SIX-WEEK CEASE-FIRE ON THE GROUNDS OF THE HUMANITARIAN
CATASTROPHE, IN HER WORDS, HAPPENING IN GAZA.
JOINING US TO DISCUSS THIS FURTHER IS JONATHAN PANIKOFF,
DIRECTOR OF THE SCOWCROFT CENTER, AND FORMER INTELLIGENCE
OFFICER FOR THE NEAR EAST AT THE NATIONAL INTELLIGENCE
COUNCIL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR B
EING
WITH US. AS WE SPEAK, THERE IS NOT YET
FORWARD PROGRESS ON THE CEASE-FIRE AGREEMENT.
ISRAEL IS NOT SENDING NEGOTIATORS TO CAIRO BECAUSE OF
A WHAT THEY SAY IS A LACK OF VALIDATION ABOUT THE NUMBER AND
CONDITION OF HOSTAGES. HOW HARD IS IT GOING TO BE TO
GET ISRAEL THE INFORMATION THAT IT NEEDS FROM HAMAS?
DO YOU SEE THIS GETTING OVER THE FINISH LINE ANYTIME SOON?
JONATHAN: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
I THINK IT CAN GET OVER THE FINISH LINE.
RAMADAN WHICH BEGINS SUNDAY NIGHT, IS THE TIME
THEY ARE
PUSHING FOR TO GET IT DONE BEFORE THEN.
ISRAEL HAS ACCEPTED THE FRAMEWORK BROADLY OF WHAT A
HOSTAGE NEGOTIATION WOULD LOOK LIKE.
HAMAS IS REFUSING TO GIVE A LIST OF THE HOSTAGES THAT WOULD
BE RELEASED. MAINLY BECAUSE THEY MIGHT NOT
KNOW ALL OF THEM AND WHERE THEY ARE.
HAMAS IS HOLDING THE MAJORITY OF HOSTAGES, BUT THERE ARE
STILL A NUMBER OF A BLUE HELD BY OTHER GROUPS IN THE GAZA
STRIP -- ISLAMIC JIHAD, FOR INSTANCE, AND THAT MAY BE PART
OF THE DELAY. THERE IS ALSO A HISTORY OF
HAMAS
, FRANKLY, JUST LYING ABOUT HOW MANY HOSTAGES HAVE
BEEN KILLED AND HOW MANY BE ALIVE.
ISRAEL WANTS TO VALIDATE IT. IT PROBABLY CAN GET DONE WITH
CAIRO AND QATAR'S MEDIATOR, BUT IT WILL BE A STRUGGLE TO GET IT
DONE BY SUNDAY NIGHT. JOE: WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE TONE
AND THE LANGUAGE FROM THE U.S. VICE PRESIDENT, SHE CHOSE TO
DELIVER THAT MESSAGE FROM SALAMA WHICH IS NOT LOST ON US,
DAYS BEFORE JOE BIDEN DELIVERS HIS STATE OF THE UNIT YOU
PROJECT TO WHAT WE WILL HEAR THURSDAY NIGHT -- CAN YOU
PROJE
CT TO WHAT WE HEAR THURSDAY NIGHT IN POTENTIALLY A
MORE FORCEFUL PRESIDENT BIDEN? JONATHAN:
PROBABLY THE SAME MESSAGE AND LIKE YOU SAID, MORE FORCEFUL.
HE MAY DEMAND FOR THE HOSTAGES TO BE RELEASED AS PART OF THE
NEGOTIATION AND THAT DOING SO IS THE BEST WAY YOU GET
HUMANITARIAN AID INTO THE GAZA STRIP.
PART OF THE NEGOTIATION IS ABOUT A EX-WEEK PAUSE THAT
WOULD ALLOW AID TO RUSH IN IN A WAY THAT WE HAVEN'T SEEN IN
MONTHS, REALLY PROBABLY SINCE THE NOVEMBER PAUSE, DESPITE THE
FACT THAT THERE HAV
E BEEN CAR DOORS THAT HAVE TRIED TO BE
OPEN. I ALSO THINK YOU WILL REITERATE
ISRAEL'S RIGHT TO DEFEND ITSELF AND FOR ISRAEL TO DO A BETTER
JOB TO PROTECT INNOCENT PALESTINIAN LIVES, THOUSANDS OF
WHOM HAVE BEEN LOST. KAILEY:
TO YOUR POINT ON AID GETTING INTO GAZA, THE MINISTER SHOULD
HAVE BEGUN AIRLIFTING AID INTO THE GAZA
STRIP, SOMETHING WE TYPICALLY DO WHEN WE NEED TO GET AROUND
ADVERSARIES, YET ISRAEL IS AN ALLY.
WHAT DO YOU DERIVE FROM THAT, BUT ALSO THE LANGUAGE OUT FROM
THE ADMINISTRATION
ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE U.S.-ISRAEL
RELATIONSHIP RIGHT NOW? IS IT BECOMING A BIT MORE
TROUBLED? JONATHAN: I THINK ON THE AID PART, THERE
ARE TWO PARTS OF THIS. ONE IS THERE IS A ROOM SECURITY
CHALLENGE -- REAL SECURITY CHALLENGE AS WE SAW LATE LAST
WEEK, FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SECURITY TO DELIVER THE
AID. THE OTHER CHALLENGE IS THAT ISRAEL HAS NOT OPENED AS MUCH
CROSSINGS AND PROVIDED THE SUPPORT THAT THE U.S.
HAS BEEN PUSHING FOR IN A MUCH MORE FORCEFUL WAY NOW FOR
PROBABLY ABOUT A MO
NTH OR SO. I THINK IT REFLECTS A BROADER
SPLIT BETWEEN WHERE THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION IS AND WHERE
PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU IS. THAT IS A SPLIT ERC PLAY OUT IN
REAL TIME, WITH BENNY GANTZ AND WASHINGTON, D.C.
AGAINST THE WISHES OF PRIME MINISTER NETANYAHU.
HE NEVERTHELESS MET WITH VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS, HE MET WITH SENIOR MEMBERS OF THE NSC, HE
WILL SEE SECRETARY OF STATE BLINKEN TOMORROW.
SO YOU ARE STILL IN TO SEE SOME OF THOSE TENSIONS COME TO THE
FOLD. IN THE END, I STILL THINK THE
U.S. AND
PRESIDENT BIDEN IN PARTICULAR, IS COMMITTED TO
REALLY TRYING TO ENSURE ISRAEL'S SECURITY BUT DO IT IN
A WAY THAT PROVIDES MORE RELIEF TO PALESTINIANS WHO HAVE BEEN
SUFFERING AND REALLY, REALLY STRUGGLING IN SUCH A HORRIFIC
WAY. JOE: AS YOU SAY, JONATHAN ISRAEL
SAYS IT WILL NOT SEND NEGOTIATORS TO CAIRO UNLESS IT
GETS THAT LIST OF HOSTAGES FROM HAMAS.
AS LONG AS THAT IS THE CASE, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE HAMAS CAN
GENERATE ALL OF THAT INFORMATION TO THE SATISFACTION
OF BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, WHAT ARE WE
TALKING ABOUT HERE, THAT
MEANS NO ONE GOES TO CAIRO, RIGHT? JONATHAN:
I THINK IT IS POSSIBLE THAT HAMAS CAN GENERATE THE LIST OR
SOMETHING CLOSE TO IT THAT WOULD BE SUFFICIENT FOR ISRAEL.
THE OTHER OPTION IS JUST BECAUSE ISRAEL WILL NOT GO TO
CAIRO, DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL NOT HAVE AMERICAN OR EVEN
EGYPTIAN OFFICIALS GO TO ISRAEL. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING
THIS TO HAS NOT BEEN A DIRECT NEGOTIATION OBVIOUSLY, THE
QATARIS AND EGYPTIANS HAVE THEN MEDIATORS, THEY MET WITH THE
C.I.A. DIRECTOR NOT LONG
AGO TO TRY TO
CREATE THE FRAMEWORK FOR THIS DEAL, SO THERE ARE WAYS TO GET
AROUND THIS, BUT IT WILL TAKE TIME. WHILE I AM CAUTIOUSLY
OPTIMISTIC, IT IS FAR FROM A SURE THING AT THIS POINT.
WHERE KAILEY: KAILEY: WE HAVE CONTINUALLY PAID
ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN GAZA AND THE DIRECT CONFLICT
BETWEEN ISRAEL AND HAMAS, THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN ABOUT
SPILLOVER INTO THE WIDER MIDDLE EAST ALTHOUGH IT DOES FEEL LIKE
THAT CONVERSATION HAS DIED DOWN A BIT AS HE SAW U.S.
CONDUCTING AIRSTRIKES GOING AF
TER HOUTHI TARGETS IN YEMEN,
FOR EXAMPLE. CAN YOU GIVE US A REALITY CHECK
OF HOW HOT THINGS ARE STILL IN THE REGION? JONATHAN:
THEY ARE ACTUALLY PRETTY HOT. I DO THINK THE HOUTHI CHALLENGE
HAS SLIGHTLY CALMED, AS YOU SEE THE U.S.-LED COALITION
CONTINUING TO GO AFTER THE HOUTHIS IN A PRETTY STRONG WAY.
ON THE OTHER HAND I THINK THERE IS INCREASING CONCERN ABOUT
TENSIONS IN THE NORTH, ALONG THE LEBANON-ISRAEL BORDER.
YOU ARE SEEING MORE OFFICIALS IN ISRAEL TALKING ABOUT THE
NEED TO GO AFTER HEZBOL
LAH IN LEBANON, AND THE POTENTIAL FOR
THAT TO TRIGGER A BROADER WAR IS ACTUALLY GROWING.
THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN WHEN THIS CONFLICT ERUPTED IN
OCTOBER THAT THAT WOULD HAPPEN. IT REALLY HAS KIND OF WANED.
SINCE HEZBOLLAH AND ISRAEL GOT IN A PATTERN OF BACK-AND-FORTH
VOLLEYS, BUT NOW YOU ARE HEARING ISRAEL TALK ABOUT THE
NEED TO GO AFTER HEZBOLLAH IN THE SAME WAY THEY ARE GOING
AFTER HAMAS. 'S HAS BUT I THINK THAT IS
GOING TO HAPPEN AND TRIES TO ACT PREEMPTIVELY, THEN YOU ARE IN A
WHOLE DIFFERE
NT BALLGAME. HEZBOLLAH'S WEAPONS REPERTORY
IS MUCH MORE ADVANCED THAN HAMAS'S AND THAT WOULD BE A
CHALLENGE FOR ISRAEL. THE OTHER PROBLEM IS THE WEST
BANK. YOU ARE SEEING INCREASED TENSIONS IN THE WEST BANK AND
THE POTENTIAL FOR ANOTHER INTIFADA, FRANKLY, IS GROWING.
THOSE ARE THE ARENAS I WOULD START TO WATCH NEXT. JOE: OUR THANKS TO JONATHAN
PANIKOFF, DIRECTOR OF THE SCHOOL CROFT MIDDLE EAST
SECURITY INITIATIVE AT THE ATLANTIC COUNCIL.
GOOD TO SEE YOU. COMING UP, WE WILL BE JOINED BY
COLORADO'
S SECRETARY OF STATE JENA GRISWOLD WITH HER TAKE ON
THE SUPREME COURT RULING THAT DONALD TRUMP CAN APPEAR ON
PRESIDENTIAL BALLOTS INCLUDING, IN HER STATE OF COLORADO. ♪ JOE: THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER"
ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. AS WE LEARNED EARLIER TODAY
FROM THE SUPREME COURT, FORMER SUPREME COURT -- FORMER
PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP GOT A VICTORY, THE SUPREME COURT
OVERTURNING A DECISION BY COLORADO'S HIGHEST COURT THAT
HAD REMOVED HIM FROM THE 2024 BALLOT RUNNING US IS COLORADO
SECRETARY OF STAT
E JENNA. MADAM SECRETARY, IT'S GREAT TO
HAVE YOU HERE TODAY. AN IMPORTANT DAY FOR YOU.
DO YOU FEEL BETRAYED BY THE JUSTICES ON THE SUPREME COURT?
SECRETARY GRISWOLD: THANKS FOR HAVING ME ON.
ABSOLUTELY NOT. MY REACTION IS THAT I AM GLAD
THE SUPREME COURT ISSUED A DECISION.
AMERICANS WILL BE VOTING TODAY AND TOMORROW ACROSS THE NATION
ESPECIALLY IN STATES WHERE THERE IS EARLY VOTING AND THEY
DESERVE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT TRUMP IS AN ELIGIBLE CANDIDATE.
BEYOND THAT I AM DISAPPOINTED IN THE DECISI
ON.
I DO BELIEVE IT IS UP TO A STATE TO DECIDE WHETHER TO PUT
AN OATH-BREAKING INSURRECTIONIST ON THE BALLOT OR NOT.
THE SUPREME COURT OBVIOUSLY DISAGREES AND, OF COURSE, THE
STATE OF COLORADO WILL FOLLOW THE SUPREME COURT'S DECISION.
KAILEY: THE SUPREME COURT DECIDED IT IS
NOT UP TO A STATE WHEN IT COMES TO THE FEDERAL OFFICE LIKE THE
PRESIDENCY, IT IS UP TO CONGRESS.
WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE TO SEE CONGRESS DO WITH THAT
INFORMATION? SECRETARY GRISWOLD: THAT'S RIGHT, THE SUPREME COURT
SAID CONGRESS
HAVE TO ACT FIRST TO EFFECTUATE SECTION III OF
THE 14TH AMENDMENT WHICH DISQUALIFIES OATH-BREAKING
INSURRECTIONIST'S. I THINK THIS IS A RUN FOR
OFFICE NO QUESTIONS ASKED FOR FEDERAL OATH-BREAKING
INSURRECTIONIST CANDIDATES. CONGRESS PASSING ANY TYPE OF LAW RESTRICTING
OATH-BREAKERS RUNNING FOR FEDERAL OFFICE IS HIGHLY
UNLIKELY. JOE: JOE: DO YOU STILL BELIEVE DONALD
TRUMP IS AN OATH-BREAKING INSURRECTIONIST? SEC. GRISWOLD:
I DO. THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT
DID NOT TACKLE THAT QUESTION AND ONL
Y TWO COURTS IN THE
UNITED STATES HAVE LOOKED AT THE QUESTION OF WHETHER DONALD
TRUMP ENGAGED IN INSURRECTION. THEY BOTH AGREE THAT HE DID.
THE BIGGER PICTURE IS THAT JANUARY 6 WAS TRUMP'S ATTEMPT
TO STEAL THE 2020 ELECTION FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.
HE INCITED THAT VIOLENT MOB ONTO CONGRESS AND HIS ATTACKS
ON OUR DEMOCRACY HAVE NOT STOPPED.
AND JUST LOOKING AT THE RECENT STATEMENTS AND NEWS, MAGA
EXTREMISTS ARE ALREADY TRYING TO SOW DOUBT ABOUT 2024. KAILEY:
AND AS WE LOOK TO VOTING IN 2025, OF
COURSE, IT WILL BE
HAPPENING IN YOUR STATE TOMORROW, AND DONALD TRUMP
BECAUSE OF THE SUPREME COURT, WILL BE APPEARING ON THE BALLOT.
WHAT KIND OF TURNOUT ARE YOU EXPECTING IN THE REPUBLICAN
PRIMARY TOMORROW? SEC. GRISWOLD:
COLORADO IS CONSIDERED THE NATION'S GOLD STANDARD FOR
ELECTIONS BOTH IN TERMS OF ACCESS, AND SECURITY, IN PART, BECAUSE WE SEND A MAIL BALLOT
TO EVERY ACTIVE VOTER AND WE ALSO HAVE EARLY VOTING.
SO ACTUALLY, BALLOTS WENT OUT FEBRUARY 12 AND COLORADOANS
HAVE ALREADY BEEN BREAKI
NG. IN THE REPUBLICAN
PRIMARY, AS OF LAST NIGHT OVER 500,000 HAD BEEN PROCESSED.
WE ARE EXPECTING A PRETTY BIG UPTICK IN VOTING TODAY AND
TOMORROW. IT'S SO IMPORTANT FOR COLORADO
ONCE AND ALL AMERICANS TO MAKE THEIR VOICES HEARD IN THESE
CRUCIAL PRIMARIES. JOE: TO BE CLEAR, SECRETARY, DONALD
TRUMP WAS ON THE BALLOT. YOU ARE NOT REPRINTING BALLOTS,
ALL THE CANDIDATES WILL BE ON THE BALLOTS TOMORROW.
SEC. GRISWOLD: THAT IS EXACTLY RIGHT, IT WOULD
BE LOGISTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PRINT BALLOTS SO QUIC
KLY.
SO HE IS ON THE BALLOT BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH THE COLORADO
SUPREME COURT SAID HE WAS DISQUALIFIED, THEY SAID TO PUT
THEM ON THE BALLOT AS LONG AS THERE WAS AN ACTIVE APPEAL TO
THE U.S. SUPREME COURT. SO HE HAS BEEN ON THE BALLOT
THIS ENTIRE TIME AND COLORADO WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR HIM --
AND COLORADANS WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR HIM. KAILEY:
COLORADO SECRETARY OF STATE JENA GRISWOLD, THANK YOU SO
MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. IT'S NOT JUST IN
COLORADO, ELECTIONS ARE TAKING CENTER STAGE ACR
OSS THE COUNTRY
AS WE LOOK AHEAD TO SUPER TUESDAY.
WE WILL HAVE MORE WITH OUR POLITICAL PANEL NEXT.
THIS IS "BALANCE OF POWER" ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO. >> I HAVE EVERY INTENTION OF
GOING TO SUPER TUESDAY. >> WE ARE HEADING TO THE SUPER
TUESDAY STATE. >> WE ARE GOING TO SUPER
TUESDAY. >> WE HAVE GOT SUPER TUESDAY.
THE PEOPLE WANT THEIR CHOICE. WE ARE GOING TO GIVE THEM THAT. >> I WILL CONTINUE TO TAKE THE
CARDS AND THE BRUISES AND THE PAIN AND THE
INSULTS, BECAUSE I THINK AMERICA IS WORTH IT.
A
LL I ASK IS THAT YOU STAND WITH ME AS I DO IT AND TAKE
THAT ALL THE WAY TO SUPER TUESDAY STATES, BECAUSE IT
MATTERS. ♪ KAILEY: THAT WAS REPUBLICAN
PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE NIKKI HALEY MAKING IT CLEAR SHE IS
HEADED TO SUPER TUESDAY. BUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER TOMORROW?
JOIN US IS RICK DAVIS, AND JEANNE SHEEHAN ZAINO, OUR
POLITICAL PANEL. SHE IS IN IT THROUGH TOMORROW.
QUESTION IS, WHAT HAPPENS BEYOND TOMORROW AS SHE, AS VERY
WELL COULD HAPPEN, DOESN'T WIN A SINGLE STATE? RICK:
NICE TO SEE SOMEONE AND N
OT INSULTING ANYBODY OR GIVING
ANYBODY NICKNAMES. IT WAS LIKE OLD-STYLE POLITICS.
HE ACTUALLY HAD COMMUNICATION. SHE HAS THRESHOLDS TO MEET.
ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE IT OVER 20% IN EACH STATE?
THAT IS NUMBER ONE. THAT IS THE THRESHOLD TO GET
DELEGATES. SO IF YOU ARE IN IT FOR THE
DELEGATES AND WE HEARD FROM GOVERNOR SUNUNU THAT SHE IS
COLLECTING DELEGATES, A BIG DEAL, YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO AT
LEAST GET THAT MUCH. THEN THERE ARE NORTHERN STATES
LIKE MAINE AND VERMONT WHERE YOU CAN GET 40% LIKE SHE
DID IN
NEW HAMPSHIRE, MAKE IT LOOK LIKE DONALD TRUMP LAST SUPPORT
AMONG GOP REGULATORS IN THOSE STATES.
IF THOSE THINGS HAPPEN, I THINK, ONE, SHE MAY SEE
ADDITIONAL FUNDRAISING WHICH MAY GIVE HER A CHANCE TO GO TO
THE NEXT ROUND. IT WOULD NOT SURPRISE ME THAT
THAT WOULD BE HER ANNOUNCEMENT AT THE END OF SUPER TUESDAY.
JOE: AS OPPOSED TO TOPPING OUT. DOES SHE NEED TO WIN ANYTHING
MAYBE LIKE RICK SAYS, SOMETHING LIKE NEW ENGLAND MAY BE BRING
DOWN THE SWING STATE OF MASSACHUSETTS?
DOES THAT KEEP HE
R GOING INTO THE NEXT CONTEST? JEANNE:
IF SHE WINS SOMETHING THAT WOULD HELP VERY MUCH.
SHE DID WIN D.C. OVER THE WEEKEND, WHERE YOU ALL
ARE. JOE: THAT'S RIGHT. JEANNE:
I BELIEVE THE RULES ARE THAT IN ORDER TO GET THE NOMINATION,
YOU HAVE TO WIN FIVE, I BELIEVE SHE HAS FOUR MORE TO GO AND
DON'T THINK SHE WILL PICK UP ANYMORE. THE REALITY OF WHAT IS
HAPPENING ON THE RNC SIDE IS THAT DONALD TRUMP HAS REALLY
SEWN UP THIS PARTY AND IS VERY CLOSE TO BEING THE PRESUMPTIVE
NOMINEE. NOT JUST THAT HE LOO
KS TO
OVERTAKE AND LORD OVER THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL CONVENTION
AT THE NATIONAL LEVEL, BUT I THINK HE HAS DONE, TO HIS
CREDIT, REMARKABLE WORK IN MAKING SURE THE PARTIES IN THE
STATES HE NEEDS -- ARE DESIGNED THE
RULES ARE DESIGNED IN WAYS THAT HELP HIM AS HE MOVES FORWARD.
WE ARE SEEING THE FRUITS OF THAT.
THIS IS A MUCH BETTER TRUMP CAMPAIGN IN 2025 THAT IT WAS IN
EITHER 2020 OR 2016, AND THE NUMBERS SHOW IT. KAILEY:
AS PRESIDENT TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND MAYBE IT IS WELL RUN OR BETTER
RIDE, NIKKI HA
LEY COULD STILL BE GETTING 20% PLUS OF THE VOTE
IN THESE STATES. HOW MUCH WEAKNESS THAT THAT NO,
IF TRUMP IS LOOKING AT WHAT WILL BE A VERY LONG GENERAL
ELECTION CONTEST AGAINST JOE BIDEN? JEANNE:
I LIKE THE WAY YOU SAID THAT, VERY LONG INDEED.
WEDNESDAY WE START THE GENERAL PERMIT WE HAVE THREE GLORIOUS
MORE MONTHS THAN USUAL. [LAUGHTER]
FOR DONALD TRUMP, WE HAVE SEEN THE WEAKNESS IN THE COALITION,
AND WE HAVE SEEN THAT, TO RICK'S POINT, WE SAW
IT IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND CERTAINLY, IN NEW HAMPSHI
RE,
BETWEEN 25% AND 40% WHO ARE GOING OUT AND VOTING FOR A
BUDDY OTHER THAN DONALD TRUMP. ONE BIG THING TO WATCH FOR MOON
KNIGHT IS DO WE SEE A REPEAT OF THAT -- ONE BIG THING TO WATCH
FOR TOMORROW NIGHT IS, DO WE SEE A REPEAT OF THAT?
THAT UNDERSCORES ABUSE WEAKNESS. THE CONFOUNDING THING FOR ME IS
THAT IN A NORMAL ELECTION YEAR, THE FRONT RUNNER, DONALD
TRUMP, HE WOULD LOOK AT THIS AND TRY TO APPEAL TO THOSE
INDEPENDENTS AND THOSE MODERATE VOTERS, ESTABLISHMENT
REPUBLICANS. HE IS DOING ANYTHIN
G BUT THAT.
OVER THE WEEKEND STOCK HE WAS OUT SAYING THIS IS A MAGA
PARTY, WE DON'T NEED THE LIKES OF. MITT ROMNEY HERE IS THE OLD
DONALD TRUMP WHO DOES EVERYTHING IN VIOLATION OF THE
NORMAL RULES OF POLITICS WHICH AT THIS POINT WOULD BE TO REACH
TO THE MIDDLE AND TRY TO COALESCE SUPPORT BEHIND YOU.
HE IS NOT DOING ANY OF THAT. JOE:
RICK, GOVERNOR SUNUNU DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT PROJECTIONS
FROM THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN OF WHEN MIGHT HIT THE MAGIC NUMBER, BUT
IT LOOKS LIKE MARCH 19 IF NOT THE 12, IF
HE RUNS THE BOARD, I
GUESS, TOMORROW. IT FEELS PRETTY DIFFERENT IF IT
IS NOT MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE ANYMORE.
WHEN HE SAYS THE WINDOW IS CLOSING, ARE THOSE THE DATES
THEY ARE LOOKING AT? RICK: MY OWN EXPERIENCE IN 2008 OR IN
2000 WERE NO WAS RUNNING THE MCCAIN, CAMPAIGN AFTER SUPER
TUESDAY, WE MATHEMATICALLY COULD NOT WIN.
YOU COULD RUN THE TABLE STILL NOT GET THERE.
TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO GET 90% OF THE VOTE ON SUPER TUESDAY.
SO HE MIGHT HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE 12TH FOR THE 19TH.
THE REALITY IS
, I DON'T THINK ANYBODY PRESUMES THAT NIKKI
HALEY HAS A MATHEMATICAL FORMULA TO WIN THE NOMINATION. AS JEANNE POINTS OUT, WINNING
D.C. DOESN'T GET YOU A TICKET TO THE
CONVENTION. YOU HAVE TO WONDER HOW LONG SHE
CAN EXTEND THIS. SHE ALREADY HAS EXTENDED IT
MUCH LONGER THAN ANYBODY SUSPECTED -- WHEN WE WERE IN
FREEZING COLD IN HAMPSHIRE, NOBODY THOUGHT SHE WOULD MAKE
IT OUT TO SOUTH CAROLINA. SHE HAS, AND SHE HAS BEEN
INCREDIBLE IN HER CAMPAIGN. SO AS LONG AS SHE CAN MAINTAIN
MOMENTUM, CREDIBILITY
, AND FUNDRAISING, SHE HAS A REASON
TO BE OUT THERE AND AS JEANNE POINTS OUT SHE IS EXTENDING
THAT PRIMARY CAMPAIGN FOR DONALD TRUMP WHEN JOE BIDEN HAS
NEVER REALLY HAD ONE. SO ADVANTAGED BIDEN WITH
REGARDS TO BEING ABLE TO PIVOT TO THE GENERAL ELECTION BEFORE
TRUMP HAS THE ABILITY TO DO IT. NIKKI HALEY IS STILL MAKING USE
OF THE CAUSES WHOM ALL KINDS OF CONSTERNATION. KAILEY: KAILEY: ON THE SUBJECT OF JOE BIDEN, WE
GOT SOME POLLS OUT THE LAST FEW DAYS ONE FROM CNN, PRESIDENT
BIDEN HAS 43% SUPPO
RT TO TRUMP'S 48%.
AND THE WALL STREET JOURNAL POLL SHOWED IMPROVEMENT IN THE
WAY VOTERS ARE THINKING ABOUT THE ECONOMY, THE NUMBERS LOW
BUT ARE HEADING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION IF YOU ARE THE
INCUMBENT PRESIDENT. SHOULD BIDEN LOOK AT FIGURES
LIKE THAT AND FEEL BETTER AS HE GETS READY FOR THE STATE OF THE
UNION THURSDAY OR DOES, IT SHOW HOW MUCH WORK HE STILL HAS TO
DO? JEANNE:
THE POLLS OVER THE WEEKEND EXCEPT FOR THE ONE YOU
MENTIONED, THE WALL STREET JOURNAL ON THE ECONOMIC OUTLOOK
PICKING UP S
LIGHTLY, THEY WERE JUST DEVASTATING FOR THE BIDEN
CAMPAIGN AND FOR DEMOCRATS OVERALL.
THE NUMBERS SHOW ENORMOUS WEAKNESS.
THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE TWO DEMOGRAPHICS CLOSELY --
AFRICAN-AMERICANS AND YOUNG PEOPLE, THEY CAN'T JUST WIN
THEM EVEN NARROWLY, THEY HAVE TO GET THEM IN BIG NUMBERS.
THIS HAS BEEN A PERENNIAL PROBLEM FOR HIM.
MY HOPE IS THAT THEY DON'T LOOK AT THAT WALL STREET JOURNAL
POLL AND THOSE NUMBERS ON THE ECONOMY AND SAY LET'S JUST WAIT
AND HOPEFULLY SOMEBODY WILL WAKE UP AND REAL
IZE THEY HAVE A
LOT TO CELEBRATE IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY.
THEY HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL. SO MUCH WORK TO DO. JOE:
GENERATION HAS BEEN AND RICK DAVIS, THANK YOU.
AND WE THANK YOU FOR JOINING US ON "BALANCE OF POWER."
WE WILL HAVE A SPECIAL EDITION OF "BALANCE OF POWER"
AND SPECIAL COVERAGE OF SUPER TUESDAY FROM 9:00 P.M.
TO 11:00 P.M. HERE ON BLOOMBERG TV AND RADIO
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MAGA, America First. The establishment sold us out time for the adults to take over. We can get this country back if we all stick together, this is our country even if we dislike some policies or you believed all their bs at the start and now see through it. Its time to vote for politicians who do whats best for us not themselves.
Ruling against Trump in the immunity case would destroy seperation of powers. The immunity cannot be pierced for actions taken within official duties. Ensuring election integrity is not illegal, its a presidential duty.
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