Share Market में करोड़ों कमाने का असली तरीका ! | Asit Baran Pati | The Investographer Podcast Ep 13

and speak to the uh it's only because of trading  father's menion gone father's saving gone FD gone two times of my salary I was scared I  was terrified what would happen if things do not go right at this point of time trading  is a war if you're not the shark you are the food hello sir hello hi anit hi San  hello sir thanks for having me all good all good thank you thank you for having me soba Finance different but the time I was working fors Union  Bank of Switzerland in the investment banking

division M valuation and all  those thing it was not a front end but at the same time you're supporting  to the Frontline Bankers with the pitchbook pration so I I lost my father to  cancer in so time I had taken some break and stressful in terms of you literally SLO  every day Blackberry so that you communicate with the banker the status of the preach  book and everything so um CFE pressure maybe I was not uh prepared at that point  of time to take that much of longer tenure at the job so I ju

st started dabbling into  market and cash father had left some money and I started trading in the market uh but  not short-term trading not this thing but swing trading kind of thing MH and uh over  a period of time uh say monthly Sal from corporate Market it's a stroke of luck and you start EXT exactly I think I was too raw too  immature and um I didn't know the depth of the market especially somebody who um gets  into the EO side of the business cash but is a completely different Beast skill s

et prep  Capital you can get wiped out in no time so that's exactly what happened initially begin Lu  I had a decent amount of you know profit that I had made skill set but it was not the case to  be and I started blowing out my Capital every say 6 months 5 months so a capital base I lost  that money then I arrange another set of cap realize there was no one that you know honestly I feel lot of people genuine people  who are trading who give advice and everything knowledge to yes  yes YouTube an

d everything and uh for whatever reasons I I was not suppos to  either YouTube or Twitter or whatever this thing absolutely and I paid money to the  market for not being uh disciplined being greedy and uh at the same time not knowing  depth Lower Side I did not anticipate [Music] and that whole process uh not only took lot of  time effort that emotional Capital what exactly is happening I could have very well gone to kind of  non New York I could have absorbed and everything I so initially to be

honest  I got into trading because I do not want to live that life of a banker you know kind of easy way to make money right and  that's a mistake that's a blunder and over a period of time because of your blunders how  immature you are how nose you are and uh so there was a time I was doing pretty well  in my corporate right and um I could have done anything that I wanted to do going for  uh kind of know placement to the topnotch colleges schools and everything hiring  people and having a team

and everything uh I left that got into trading I went broke  father's menion gone father's saving gone F gone savings that is gone so actually it hits  your hard what exactly has happened with your life step by step step by step and  whatever family is little bit of no wealth or my own savings and everything  everything gone too fast to even realize what has happened right and you're actually um  little ashamed of what you have done knowing but M just to realiz because I was in a high paying jo

b and everything getting loans was  not an easy my wife was also walking transer that is the and in the process whatever so not only  I had two three PLS and home top I had the backlog of my father's  you know saving and I I have seen my father like you know my father was  a bank employee y Bank he used to go bank manager respons and everything used to  come back around night 9:00 and everything my mother used to get up by 4:00 to prepare food  because we don't have a chef or we don't have you k

now Helping Hands and everything so that is  a middle class you know you can say struggle I would not say struggle we quite fine way of life  but struggle of doing the business job that was pretty much there hard work so and what that he  had accumulated over a period of time right I could manage to lose that out in maybe a few  months time so that guilt was Heavy MH that guilt was like very very heavy yeah exactly and  I had no right to spoil that money like that just because I'm his son no no

way somebody's effort  of last say 30 years m to have that audacity in myself that you know I lose that money in five  six months time not done right it's absolutely not done I have no right to my father I've seen my  father struggling going to job and everything he's a very very hardworking guy so it felt bad  it somebody punched me in in my heart which I couldn't recover so so my point is whoever  is seeing this um do not get into that dead trap you not able to make money in the market  it's a

bsolutely fine don't touch your parents money don't touch the PLS and that you know  circle of PL that don't Bor money to trade yes don't borrow money until your exceptionally  skilled and you believe you have done for say that's a different story starting out fathering mother saving most of the time  the mindset is that and you go aggressive and that to in fno and that to without adequate  knowledge and I did not have adequate knowledge at 2012 134 initially but it is nothing to do  yeah beginn

er luck Market was in that swing right put it in that way some beginner who has made money in the last 20  days he thinks it's my skill setet but it's just matter of [Music] time don't have to take every profit thinking or know confidence over confidence  and things like that this is Market with lot of years of experience lot  of uh resources at the disposal with them right I and just coming out just because  you have some money in your Dem account that doesn't give you any right to kind  of kno

w just make it vanish so yeah you have to respect the money yeah absolutely  you have to respect the money you have to respect the ring that you're getting into  it's a boxing training is a war right you must sit down with yourself to realize it's  an absolute War uh if you're not the shark you are the food that is what the trading  is eat or be eaten yes yes especially in and maybe that's perfect recipe for disaster so right but by the time you realize you have  already paid a heavy price M isn

't it so I think people should realize Tak time nothing  comes easy trading thinking it's easy money that's my biggest blunder it is it is one of the  most toughest profession to be in to make that faster and easy money yes it is doable but  getting it done you need years of you know discipline practice system and whatever  that is there correct so it doesn't come easy I would say this is all doable I'm not saying it  is not but that is not doable in the beginning not at the beginning maybe it w

ill take bit of  you know time before you can reach that level of you know Excellence M so you know each and  everyone should be aware of their own Capital what is my risk appetite uh do not bring yourself  to the risk ruin you know it is no achievement you know of but at the end of the day I'm broke at  the end of the day I don't have money to kind of know get stuff for my family you know I told  this I I clearly remember many times I've shared this thing I actually honestly did not have money 

to put Petrol in the AC car or whatever I'll keep twice you can you can very well imagine my depth of my desperation I would say part of it  is innocent part of it is immature part of it overconfidence part of it  is also um that hope that I'll come out fine M right but one thing that  I had kind of not seen my initial Journey right that's a different story but I had seen money in the market  in my first six seven months time it's like you know it's a wearing  that has gone defective but at the

same maybe you have a very good chance of  know succeeding at the end of it right so that is there and maybe that core belief that  I had at 2012 seeing the kind of money that can be made I'm still kind of not surving the  market you have to see what can be done right yes multiple times but at the same time you had that trading those are those are the  things I think people will be well off okay fine when to trade when  not to trade and things like that so why right that is the Point  Market is

going to be there forever right and me taking those  kind of not traits taking my entire family's wealth into equation and not  done I would not be able to forgive myself for what I did at that point of  time you should not have been in that position another loan pay loan home loan top up  I I still remember there was a time in 201 13 I think credit I couldn't take any more loans  because it's exhausted there's a time my my loan Emi was two times of my salary right amount I  think I was paying

around uh 5 lakhs 4 and a half 5 lakhs maybe emi emi I'm talking about housing  loan year loan I think I was getting around three in hand kind of thing 2012 MH and uh yeah that  was the case and so PES gone so my salary was not enough to pay the Emi right so then came a point  where I took signature of my wife to take another loan on her name so telling her that you know and  I think I feel ashamed that I did that but you know and so it doesn't necessarily  become your skill set now your despera

tion drives your trading style  and that is also a recipe for disaster because no matter how people ad not admit it does  happen but uh but yeah that is that is how things have been U at that point of time just too bad to  be honest and uh I I I left job in UBS and kind of know sit down at home at for for an year or so  there was nothing to be left now and all those thing that is why I joined Bank of America in good  and uh yeah that is and and coming to gooda from Hyderabad where I was working

forget about the  flight ticket I didn't have money to buy normal third AA ticket so my second class sleeper you  know h b not my money my mother's debit card I took and online clearly remember I went to the  station to book the ticket and everything and that is that is how I came to Hyderabad sorry  to G and R Jag I stayed with my best friend mad in G at his place for a month to whatever then  went to another person's place so because good anyway so I stayed with my friend then stayed with  ano

ther friend subam in G and slowly steadily then I started building the Innings but the only change  at this point of time that has happened that um I was very much aware of you know what I wanted  to do and um I was completely determined that um Market Market but at the same time I was not  overconfident I was scared I was terrified what would happen if things do not go right at  this point of time but this time I had uh solid hard work behind it knowing what are the  things I need to do don't n

eed to do and things like that so yeah so pretty much this is how  like my life till 2015 had gone 15 145 kind of thing and till 20 12 um obviously I was not into  trading investment that did not really excited me at that point of time my father used to be  a small time Trader not in fno um but cash me State Bank swing typ yes and I [Music] remember  he used to carry his phone and call the dealer and me my sister my mom we will all get irritated I cut down to 12 13  years and I do the same thing

and I I ensure my travel times such that you know I do not miss 9:30 to 9:5  to say 11:30 types m defitely I don't remember a single day I didn't  have any position because I'm having a vacation or thanks to my family my wife kids  they understand there's nothing that can be changed yeah I I still me and my sister keep  talking you're doing the same thing you're no different why that person was doing that because  maybe it's link even for a day I think the last day I'll be breathing I will do t

rading there's  no Denial on that it's just that you cannot not that you're compuls there are times I don't  have positions but but still watching the market watching the market what is happening  what is the range and things like that so yeah abely I I guess confidence will only  be coming if you start making money [Music] again the ultimate preparation  would always be in the battlefield h TR that is how you'll gain confidence so and IM this discipline work EIC and everything  goes for a toss

long Nifty gaps down by 100 point and you do not know what to do and you  keep averaging the losses and everything so there comes a time not that key I don't lose  money now or you know I don't make profit that is not thing at all but fact of the matter is  that as a Trader and everybody will resonate with with me on this the single biggest asset that  we have is confidence and what you think what you are but I can recover you you are going  to recover but I would not be able to recover you'll n

ot be able to recover it  is all about your mind what you fits into it it will Beyond yourability you will be definitely be able to do it so  and this confidence is like you know it it is like you know that uh mental workout you  work on on your body in the gym right uh as a Trader every day every hour you have to work  on your mind what if this happens what would I do I'll tell you a very smallest  you know um instance um if I watch Netflix I feel guilty if I take  my family out for lunch on a

weekend feel guilty it is not that  I predominantly feel the mindset keeps coming what are you doing kind of  thing Cricket I love that's one thing I this you know World IND Australia I was  very happy the whole VI was everything but say I was like you know so I was writing  this CM exam I was telling you I was kind of not preparing and back of the mind you  have not studied anything now I'm not saying everybody has to be obsessed like  thatf but maybe this is the environment I have created my f

or myself you know  I honestly don't look into what others are doing don't compete with anyone else or  whatever I compete with myself every single day things like that so it is my only insecurities  that uh propels me to kind of keep kind of not putting the effort MH which I will not shut down  my system till the time I don't see complete daily candle for each of the stock weekly candle  so Frid I was traveling I have not seen the weekly candle it is there in my mind up so I  think you know and

and it also comes from the fact when you see the magic that can happen from  Trading I have seen uh I'm pretty sure those who have been kind of making money or they are kind  of successful at their own game they would not like to let it go you don't want to compromise  now to even I want to kind of I know okay fine maybe I'm just seeing the 5% or 10% of what could  be done and you know it can be done right but the only way it can be done or achieved only when  you start putting even more effort

than what you have been doing so I I will never take uh  myself for granted I'll never take myself key to be honest hypothetically we doing it this  podcast and hypothetically I had imaginary figure maybe let's say right now  I'm maybe three four times of that figure and everything forget of  retirement I'm not even looking for you can say that because because now you see  the kind of you know the possibilities that can come which I did not know Ty of possibilities  we right I I'm a very very a

verage student I used to be not that he I was not good at  studies but studies did not interest me because I was into Cricket Chase right or  and I was an average and without any goal parents it is not because I wanted to do it  right and it is only I think 201617 when I started seeing what can be done and that was my  lowest low those 2012 to 201 16 I would say is my lowest low everything that could have gone wrong  had gone wrong everything that I had not lost I lost be it self resect self-est

eem uh the the  the understanding of who you are really mhm uh thinking that you're absolutely do not have any  character uh because this is what you managed to do you're absolutely on the road so yeah yeah  absolutely absolutely and that is that is quite painful [Music] they didn't my sister knew things are wrong they  didn't know the Quantum of wrongness if I may put it my wife had a sense okay things could  have been kind of not really bad or [Music] whatever selfesteem was gone exactly and y

ou know my mother is very  innocent like all mothers are I said I need this thing so she just wrote the check and get  the money I asked my sister I need this thing she didn't even ask you why okay fine why have  low and it is only I think 3 years back I kind of know gave my give the money to my sister that I  took maybe in 2013 14 kind of thing okay she never asked me once uh my mother never ask so when  you have such kind of relationships and family members all right so no I couldn't say anyth

ing  to my family uh didn't say much to my friends as well there are times I have taken money  from my friend mother to pay my Emi there are times I have yeah I've gone lowest low I don't  want to get into that because these are kind of no emotions which are very very I you know  there are literally times you know I'll go to office I'll see the gutter right and that is the kind of self-esteem and that is that  is how bad that I had gone to right and psycholog very comfor doing good right have to

come out of it there is no other way  you can keep yourself like this forever not done right you start thinking differently um I  would say I I really didn't have much of you know uh should I say caliber  or uh goal I was very happy with my job everything the only mistake that I did I thought and you started exting so that innocent  blunder I would not say Innocent but maybe Immature Immature blunder costed me deep and  then you got into the Trap of you know loans yeah whatever so yeah that was

tough those four years  and and um you know I still might not have very spectacular success as yet but uh I can Amaze you  with the kind of comebacks that I come from from the lowest of low and uh and that's why connect  to a lot of people who are down and this thing maybe because you have lived through that life  maybe you understand their pain the many Traders I give money to I know but I'm not going to name  anyone I know things are bad but I say k this is okay loss is fine I have that inher

ent you know  kind of quality maybe which I discovered myself only maybe few years back mhm that I can come out  of such lows because I have believe in the hard worku name the college I would have been there  but go I didn't have that and go you don't even see yourself doing those because mind you're  an underachiever you're an average guy but yeah life teaches you lessons that you never knew  about yourself because of the circumstan that you have gone through right so but one thing is  there si

ncerely hard work put and U you are loyal to your craft know trading is like you know  for me my trading desk is a m i go and do Puja to that everyday basis I have that much this is my  most purest form of existence um so yeah over a period of time you only realize what you can do  and uh most of us like we have a limitation of who we are uh the limitation of how much I can  do the limitation of you know what can be done everybody has that cap right but when you start  breaking those glasses in

here this is not what is defining M right you define yourself as a  Trader who you are I'm doing great right can you do once year how can I do once year  so my situation was I not even doing 10,000 right and was struggling to do 10,000 but at  the same time the pace was kind of NE getting on the slow and steady confidence and this  is only Market which enabled me to kind of think much much bigger and because you see  the potential with due respect to job and everything the kind of losses that I

had the  kind of everything it would have taken me two three births to compensate all the losses the  debt baggage and everything it is only trading I could completely kind of reverse the whole  the situation maybe just in a few years not only I'm kind of obviously debt free or you know  paid off everything that could have been needed to be paid I'm quite well of even if I don't do  a single day trading which is impossible I can very well live till my kind of last day without  any this thing I'm

quite comfortable in that way basically financially independent yeah absolutely  and financially free yeah financially free but at the same time [Music] um I don't think I'll  ever have such kind of vision what I have now then you think I don't think as a Trader  you can ever retire and that is a game that you get into without even knowing what  you are getting into right so but yeah but you know people kind of know talk bad  about the profession maybe for a few people and everything I think I

think uh be trading  investment there's so many people who are doing so great so many things to be kind of inspired  with beautiful field yeah absolutely but but H if you don't respect it and if you think you are  the king of the Jung no it's it's not like that basically within few days few  months he is not respecting the market yeah absolutely because Market is a easy place he's disrespecting the whole profession  he's not coming from a place of passion he's not coming from a place of interest

just yeah  you can say that absolutely absolutely and I think people I I see you know how kids right now  you know I'm in the other side of 40 obviously I'll call the 20 years kids like you guys are you  know there's like you know this much I'm earning that much I'm I I I'm never jealous of anyone  I never feel intimidated by somebody's success but I envious of these people if I knew all this  things in my 20s I do not know where I would have landed right so I'm running 15 years back I was  tal

king to a very good Trader friend of mine the other day and he told me ke I'm already running  10 years behind I said you and he's much younger to me I said you you are running 10 years behind  I'm running 20 years behind so I'm I'm so happy to see know people are taking trading so seriously  you know putting effort and everything the genuine Traders I'm talking about but uh it's also feels  sad bit uh Ed Show something else you know I'll tell you on this aspect in 2016 17 or 17 18 I  don't reme

mber the year um I would not name the trader but uh couple of few sellers they put some  you know 95 lakhs know 90 lakhs somebody put some 1.5 I was literally happy this is possible this  is do somebody's doing it if somebody's doing it why can't you it I felt so happy you know it  gave me hope understand from the situation that I was coming from right uh and and I felt really  happy yeah people are doing it it's such a nice thing right it gave hope right if somebody say and  everything not that

I did not put any screenshot I wish to put screenshot not because to show it  is doable you you need to pass on that message yes correct so finally you are successful so you are proud of yourself and you want to  tell yeah you can say that you know people you can say that but I do not  know whether it is had it had a right interpretation or a wrong one but if at all  somebody who is doing it and doing edit and everything I'm pretty sure seeing  that screenshot of that person those Traders and e

verything if people like me  have got inspired I rather having that thinking because so it's up to you I try to invive  as much as positivity as it can be there and I never look for any negativity to be honest I'll Trust you on a face value I'll never  go and check even if you have not made it it gives me hope to do that exactly and and you you believe  that process and everything but I have known few instances where things have gone in this manner  and more than anything thing it's a bad karma

that is going to hit you someday because you're  playing with people's emotion you're playing with people's hope and desperate people's hope  follow these things at least at least passing the right message passing the right credentials  this is my way I'm not saying this is right or wrong so I think as a small community of you know whatever that we have in India is is  our utmost uh responsibility to pass on the right message to the people who  are aspiring or doing good or bad in the trading it

to said don't take loan the way like say how  I telling you do not ever take Lan Beyond Your Capacity and everything maybe my my struggle  would have been little less this thing isn't it so it's it's all about what you feeding  your mind to there a lot of people who keep criticizing training and blah blah blah and  everything it's all it's all your what you feed you know and then I honestly don't ever  kind of draw myself to any negativity because emance for whatever right or wrong reasons I  d

on't care I just I don't mute just block and move on because I know I don't want a single  thread in my mind which will start bothering me that will change your performance and all  things performance but it starts bothering you necessary yeah and honestly I think I  have know given my feedback to one of the Traders some long time back I never ever  got into the mode of trolling somebody I think that's negativity uh people  are right now feeding on negativity and that is my issue keep why can't

we have  positive message why can't we have the trust here gone two three steps ahead editing and you know I feel amused where do you get  the audacity to talk like this you know do you even know how is it going  to impact somebody else who's seeing your video this thing you bringing bad  name to the already bad named Community is that's all your own kind of understanding  exactly so but a great profession to be I strongly strongly believe in K  balance [ __ ] it will take its own course of acti

on with interest and he'll  not be able to pay it back profession not going to get C audience just because they like to follow [Music] glamorous audience the without any offense  to anyone the the Instagram has become the Kapil sha show of you know trading people come  there for entertain for living yeah that is there my brain goes for a toss everybody in my  family knows nobody will dist me for next two hours kind of thing I'm exhausted I'm literally  slost forget about profit l doesn't matter

your mental kind of know capacity as a human  being goes for it I I I do lot of intensive trading to kind of even have a thinking without any offense I don't have the  bandwidth again getting back to my desk and reading charts or data for the next day I really  don't have the bandwidth but the same time that doesn't meany every YouTuber or every instagrammer  is bad or Twitter guy is bad that is not the thing but I think people who are genuine people who have  little bit of maturity they'll be a

ble to find out you know who is right who is wrong and they can  now there's no point complaining basically Common Sense use it's easy to identify yeah somebody  I see this videos again I won't [Music] name really think you can bring yourself  to do all this thing I cannot do it I don't know portr themselves honestly I  swear on God looks like mockery trading comedy type less we talk about it the better it  is but yeah that's what it shouldn't be meant for any entertainment and everything  know

and I think I have done decently okay but uh still now that hunger for learning the  hunger for knowing where I am going wrong in the mind mentality scope me System Scope me  it is very much there I keep attending good webinars I go there I meet people and you know you never know one line can  change your thinking I I don't anticipate but even if two three lines  if it can just add bit of cues to my systems or mental cap for me  that is enough I don't really expect this thing MH I am still very

much hungry  you know I want to observe as much as it can be there at this age I don't really need to write  a CMT exam I'm not saying everybody has to do it don't take me wrong it's youry huh and by  doing it I feel more secure okay fine you're learning new things you know it's like a mental  hack constant learning constant learning and what you're telling your mind what you're doing right  if your mind thinks ke to you on the track not only you're putting effort let's say you're  doing whateve

r that can be done and by the way if you're not opportunity  L opportunity loss be and also then then you're not very very  um dedicated you know reality exact yes yes absolutely so  yeah that is that is how know it is so honestly earlier I used to I used to  do a lot of know future trading right stop I'm talking 201 17 you the king of the world you know Square you have no choice  right people only think you know psychologic Behavior I think it's aeny the or  something like that so something lik

e hypothetically we are the wisest and having  the maximum wisdom at our L because and how we could have managed  the situation better right but uh you don't think all that you think H  I'm everything that I'm doing I'm doing correct there's nothing that is I'm going wrong in right yeah that is there absolutely that is there but trading in hindsight we're all  intelligent trust me we absolutely know but you put that same person in the real Market this thing trust me  many people will get Sten up

okay so and that's why you know with due respect  all the people who put charts and trend lines I'll just ask them if you're so  sure about your study uh how many lws have you taken for that particular this  thing right many people I know they don't do that much of right again this is my  learning self learning you can say as a Trader if you're full-time Trader if  at all you're a full-time Trader train to There Is No Escape from not knowing what's  the trend is yeah because the market what the

trend whatever you first work on that  and with due respect to all the non-directional Traders and everything I'm  not creating a debate here but there is nothing called non-directional  market trends Market is like fractal so your your perspective of  you know what Market is directional non-directional depends on the time frame  correct so C you know and at the end of the day why we are in the market we  are in the market to grow our Capital make money make lesser loss and be little  protected

from the risk that could be there right if I do not have the skin in  the game I'm not a Trader right I can't see and there is nothing wrong [Music] australia6 he has never played cricket team  World Cup so there's nothing wrong but there are times people take that confidence H just  because I'm a good leader of the market I'm a good Trader these are two different companies  exactly I'm I was coming in kind of CNBC for a while I know for sure more kind of different  channels maybe trading calls

if you at all have to do the same thing with your own  account or you want to let say trade some other this thing maybe many of people do not  like to do that right so it's easy to advise people small correct so I think you know without any complaints to anyone  we must know most of the time those guys are not uh kind of uh most of  them are retail Traders absolutely and that kind of thing you have to have a  stoploss you have to have a good system and things like that and there are so many goo

d  people in Twitter itself I do not see much of YouTube and Instagram who do a great job  develop your this thing so coming back to the point it is not enough to by necessity momentum  right but the game is not about finding which stock is going up or which stock is going  down the game is to kind of you know kind of know pyramiding the G game is to finding  out ke how many lots that I can I can buy if PFC and R is going for another 30 points M so my  skin in the game will be completely differe

nt te Tak say 200 lots of RC then somebody having  the same study taking one lot in r m correct so Crossing that 100 m racing correct first  and a but that is purely and purely determined by what exactly is the level of preparation  that you have done what is your system what have how have you trained your body m right  so for that Excellence you know to be a hen Bol and you know do all the record that he's  doing the kind of preparation that he has been doing but I can give it in writing it's 

a sad story none of them want to put their head down study understand the chart  understand the data and everything without effort [Music] that money never felt like yours that is but at the same  time the sustainability of that profitability in a longer run might not be possible business I'm closing this service what will you  do again you are clueless in the market you don't know m m then they'll start with something right yes for those people you do investment you do capitalized it won't take

more than say  10 minutes if you do little wrong but uh I see so many people is it doable  is itable is it sustainable maybe not to be honest not that you need  to understand that trading system as such M but the mental makeup behind  the trading style m right so earlier I think I have done U sessions  seminars from everybody in the country know whatever but I've done sessions  because you never know where exactly you will get a spark and that could change the way you  think about market right

I think initial days when the first influence that I had is uh  subad Nanda I think uh he was the first guy who could who who I could relate to and  I can discuss my issues and problems and he's terrific he's absolutely terrific um I think  he has got a very very solid planin behind the thinking the way he thinks and everything  MH so subi s is definitely kind of know [Music] there session Sosi in my earlier days  I have seen the sprads and everything I don't when he spreads but he's terrific  g

ot training style and everything is good right uh but I genuinely believe you know  had I not met so many good guys who trains and you know give genuine you know kind of know  advice and you know training maybe I not have been the person that I am right now now you  keep shedding your mental uh weakness and you know try to be more mentally strong it's up to  you what you want to take but I'll never blame it's up to you I'm not going to talk about it  until that's a different story so yeah these

are the few guys I I think you know session  online session that was terrific that again uh started making me think what if I start  trading on a higher time frame just talking about week I am yet to reach out the weekly  time frame trading I I think I'll still take time but 30 minutes 1 hour kind of know candle  formation trading I learned from him okay fine he did not talk about 30 minutes 60 minutes  but I started implementing okay fine what if I do this right one thing is there um in this  i

n this world of you know uh I would care I would say um know money making process which  is like noodles m 2 minutes scalping 5 minutes scarping you just remember the biggest of  wealth gets made the height of the candle cand minut minute I'm not saying this is wrong but  you should have a bigger Vision bigger approach to what you're looking at so Mark say that thing  I kind of know learned and there are so many books kind of option volatility there books  so Market Wier series that's so I think

you need to keep feeding what great Traders are  thinking what do they do basically winners mindset you have to understand winners  don't do things different they do differently to add to that I was working under  once I left bankam uh friend we know each other from usvs days so he introduced me to one guy  I would not name him and uh I walked under him um and I think he was one of the guys  who actually sh me up as a Trader right I think a good guy who can sh up your mentality  um and um so I

started trading for him and you know and uh under his you know P scale and  everything but seeing what of that I was doing then over a period of time I discussed a lot  of things with him and he really influenced me the way to think market and um he asked me  one day ke if you're doing uh nicely on this thing um think about a scenario that uh every  5 minutes 2 minutes may your M fluctuation is once year I was like I'm comfortable what  I'm doing right now I don't have to do that I don't even ha

ve to do that but cut down to  2 years after that statement that he made I was in a situation where because of scalability and  everything I saw much bigger fluctuations every 2 3 minutes and my my I started stomaching  those factors better not many people can see that kind of volatility or I'm not saying  I'm doing great or whatever but it got slowly steadily ingrained in my system can this is  fine so what other people might see is a loss I don't see as a loss I see okay fine this is  what it

is the same guy one of the investment he said I my M2M loss is running around 10,000  CR so imagine somebody who is sitting on a very good investment but loss and he's an investor  in that and this kind of loss is kind of an up like yeah okay 10,000 Si you're talking about  that figure and uh I'm worried about you know one SI 2 SI 3 SI that kind of thing so it's  what you feed your mind I'm not saying and and again you would be able to do that again it's like  no I would but then once he's narra

ted and he he instill that confidence you're doing this do that  you don't have to change your approach I started doing bit of selling with him he like don't do  selling stick to your core of option buying and try to see how you can scale it up similarly  I met quite a few guys who said key option buy there's no this thing partly true option  buying stock NOW index there is enough appetite it can be done so it's and I myself did it  it's not that somebody did it and I saw it and started doing it

I started slowly studly  okay one year two here five T here and since you're doing directional trading if you're  not right Market can kind of know give you pen royally but when you're when you're going  right about it you also get kind of a multiply the capital and that is the beauty of an  option buying to be honest so this person really influenced me the way I think and  honestly as a Trader everybody has their orbit in which they're rotating in the in  terms of mental psychology and you kno

w trading psychology and everything you need to  speak to people who are in a different Zone Al together not really and and know maybe because of the the the possibilities  people have not explored yet I can proudly I I not say proudly but I can say that ke I don't  have a single rupee investment either in sip or in some stock or whatever maybe I never I  the returns probability never really excited me uh it is still the status quo but we grew up  we mature and over a period of time I started re

alizing no not that everything has to be  trading I'll diversify I'll get into real estate I'll get into say kind of know equity  and things like that in my Limited know and that is how you grow so this person who kind of  know was telling me all this there was a time he was pure into F trading right but then he  stopped all of that and he got into investment only investment so you kind of upscale yourself go  to higher orbits by seeing what others are doing and I'll be absolutely fine I have no

ego no this self created really want to learn you know and that you never know how exactly it can  influence you so that two three sentences statements that he said 5 years before  Chang my mindset at the same time there people who told me that and you cannot scale  it up in Option Bank in 10 year right if I if I would have heard that thing right my mind  and mental Capital as a Trader would have been capped I clearly remember  one of the events somebody said I was like scalability  is an issue

but that's not the case I have not done it so I'm not the right  person to give any advice or any experience I can only talk the things that I have done right  the things that I have not done so people who are advising me they have not done it they have  not lived that life for every right or wrong reasons for it that's a different story but  how can you kind of that learning from that person is he valid enough to give you that you know because you know I know people who are doing  exceptionall

y well in cash so so cash stocks May investment but that is not glamorous made quite a few of  them and I'm so inspired SO trading as a business has so many branches so many opportunities my final goal is option every field has its personality that is true I agree so see there are lot of uh let me put  it in this way there are lot of systems that I've designed M right now every system has  their own pros and cons M some system can be lagging some systems can be leading some system  can talk abou

t okay fine this is noise internal trend is all solid and everything so I take  cues from so for me these are all different school of thought I will take their views at  the same time in a different different time frames then I try to derive the conclusion  okay fine 40% 50% is kind of a matching all of them and 20% are neutral that means less  number of negativity and things like that I do a lot of an option data reading kind  of thing uh charts daily and weekly candle make form and things like

that so I tried to  combine I think for me uh the biggest uh you know asset that I have I read the text of the  market quite nicely and that is and this is because you sit in front of the system whole  day you read what is happening and it doesn't excite me to make small money now small  big is a kind of a relative term but say Market hypothetically and people do  that nothing wrong in that but that will be a cheating to my own core  process which is finding direction right system you're just f

ooling yourself right selling buying spreads nothing wrong but end  of the day you have to define a trading DNA this is who I am and this is how I want to kind of know  uh build my uh trading Journey kind of thing right so for me it is dire trading now that I don't  do selling but that's very very insignificant now that it is not that it doesn't  have an opportunity cost but then you're cheating yourself  uh your your job is to find direction and that discipline to have the  discipline to unders

tand I don't need to do anything today is a huge payoff for me I  know the days I need to be aggressive the day I do not even have to have any trade that  differentiates me from most of the trader I would say there are many times on the day I  know Market is not doing much just to distract myself I just go out to gym or know just go  for a ride or whatever but I try to detach myself so that I can conserve the emotional  energy to come back again on the second half when the money is flowing M so

so when I say  the process it's all about finding your own Edge withe respect doesn't excite me but there is nothing  wrong in that right maybe it doesn't excite me at this point of time future I might do it so  process is to finding the text of the market create on kind of different different systems and  trying to find out which system is getting aligned systems align then I become the anac if I may put  it there is nothing that I leave on the ground not to go for it so that you know that Ulti

mate Shark  who is who has tested blood and going for it I'll go for that so my face my voice all could be very  soft but uh the fire in my B is immense I nobody could not many people have seen me Trading you  know during Market hour I I I can really be an aggressive very aggressive Trader for that I have  made great amount of money that for that also I've have lost money but this is my natural style  I don't want to kind of not play for I want to make I don't want to see for next 30  4 minut Po

ints can it make 200 points you tell me you know 300 points move I'll  show you how money is made so that is the conviction that I have because you have lived  that life a million times you have seen the same pattern same kind of no breadth same kind  of no intensity momentum kind of no playing up and you go for the kill not every time your  kill is going to give you reward correct but seven eight times you'll make some  big amount of money so once you test that kind of know kind of know success

if  I may call it m you don't naturally get excited with small 4050 points B Nifty  100 points B Nifty it doesn't get me excited necessarily not necessarily uh 25th of  February if I may call it that day I lost one of my biggest biggest uh losing you know trade that  day so um hypo in I think I was telling somewhere 5x 8x right uh great job in I'm talking right that  in I made 30X okay now 30X that was on my table of full Capital yeah the amount you put no I'm  not talking about capital and all

okay so let's say okay okay let's put it in that  way I don't want to put a figure to that I've done a great that day by 330 I was  around 300 rupees okay correct so which is which has never happened before mhm correct now  for the 300 rupees I was absolutely confident ke what I have done is going to pay me off and in  case it doesn't I don't go aggressive if there is no money that to be made on that you know  trade so 30 is my buffer right now I've not booked it so something goes wrong 50% los

s I'm  okay to take it RUP stop rer M are you clear now this is 24th February when Russia declared  the war on Ukraine Ukraine everything was kind of know started falling all your systems are  aligned and I became the anakonda yeah right there's nothing left in my account I was all in  right and I was in profit so I was like slightest [Music] ofine right now till 9:30 uh sorry  uh 12:30 in the night uh Dow Jones was down 930 points correct uhx it was down by 320  points M 280 to 320 MH and I wen

t down to my office room at least six seven times to do  the Delta simulation okay how much money I'll be making tomorrow M you can say I have never  seen that kind of money that was coming so 300 maybe I would say I was looking at around say the profit the next day and I was extremely  happy uh what know let me say it 30 no five times huh so let's say five times know three to four  times the money I would be making from The Profit that I was seen um the previous Day Afternoon  B or it is origin

ally almost 120 150 times of your daily profit yes you can say that level  profit yes that's correct 120 150 times the profit and I never seen that kind of profit so  positionally I might have seen 10x 20x Max Max or maybe 30X couple of times positionally not  intr right because I play momentum and I look for the climax candle and opening candle first  15 minutes is 30 minutes and I make money and I stay quiet till the time the next bout of momentum  comes in so 12:30 bden came and uh he said um

that they're not sending troops to Ukraine Ukraine  so that means uh it's basically a it's a it's a fight between Russia and Ukraine the world is  not getting involved so Dow Jones which is 930 940 points down closed at 120 points right as ni  which was 320 say 300 points down it was around 120 points up H so Point reversal candle M correct  so just to check whatever till 12:30 I was making 120 140 times and that would have pushed me to  another orbit which will take maybe two years time 3 year

s time it was happen one day right  so it's like now next two years profit 3 years of profit I was making everything said but uh so  this is what happened so so and I was I saw this I a couldn't couldn't understand what has happened  why happened then when I got to know why it has happened da is close 120 positive and everything  I couldn't I couldn't feel my lungs heart whatever I couldn't see feel the organs in my body I was  numb and I I really wish my worst of enemy even don't go through tha

t kind of no emotions because  I just didn't know what is going to hit me so it was not about uh say it was not about uh 50% of  the profit I know that 30X is gone on top of that what I was about to lose kind of thing okay right  so until then uh if I may say so there was a time uh if I lose say um what know 1X uh loss I'm okay  4 years back 1X I'll take care I'll take care M that that then you started growing bigger that 1X  become 5x M right then I have a journal for every draw Downs that happ

ens and I'm not immune from  draw Downs I will keep having draw Downs because I'm Direction player so an event like this where  I could have been somewhere else I'm going to see the other side of it right so this is this is part  and parcel of the game uh 5x then 10x then 15x so there are times I have seen 10x 15x loss and it  is not about Capital I'm saying da profit profit L I will take okay fine you started digesting 10x  15x kind of losses so 1X is taken care of 5x taken care of 10x took bit

of not time to get acced it  took again 2 3 months 4 months then 15x on 15x took me good amount of time to recover maybe 5 6  months M and it has happened two three times okay and as a Trader and as I can speak for myself  the maximum confidence that I've got is when I get down with the recovery MH not from making  money making money I know I'll make money but my recovery rate of the draw down my my way of you  know tackling the draw down that is what gives me confidence exactly and that has ha

ppened  maybe maybe 10 12 15 times kind of thing in different different time zone and  everything so 15x hour I didn't have a template right but again it happened 12 12x  sometimes 15x sometimes and I started digesting I'm comfortable with that you know your level  what kind of profit you can make what kind of loss you can make right and it always takes time  to kind of know up your game level up to a level where you do not know you belong to so I did not  know I belong to 10x draw down or let's

say 5x draw down uh again I'm repeating when I said 10x  5x it's not 10x and 5x of the profit sorry of the capital but of the profit so so 15x was what  I was okay with so this day when it happened I lost around 95x okay and I just know key a what  has happened and what did I do so wrong so 30X is gone 30X 95x no including 30X 95x so 65 you can  say the next day M and I didn't have a template to see what can be done and uh what exactly I  will kind of not do 65x obviously Capital so basically t

here was one part of it which was was  big amount of profit which was not taken off from the let's say table MH but rest of it yes okay so  maybe around 40 50% is fresh H and that is from the 30 40% is the capital that has gone down okay  so and then the number was big and um honestly at that point of time I didn't have an iota of you  know knowledge a I can do it B how soon and uh I I went for very very good lunch came back listen  to Cold Play I didn't trade anything on that day I listen to Co

ld Play cold is my favorite brand  band uh you try to divert yourself but deep deep down you know key and U I couldn't sleep for next  2 three days to be honest and again nobody in the family know knew or whatever my team obviously  they get to know but this is what had happened and uh again this is where the confidences get  built you you don't get that much of confidence when you make money but you get confidence when  you kind of come out of Some solid draw down and that to so the time that I

took last time for  15x I took 80% of the time to recover around 75 80% of the draw down that happened this time  so that is confidence so for me now you show 30 I'll take I'll take care now that I wish to have  that kind of no kind of no event driven draw down or whatever but it would happen and the point is  as a Trader if you want to Big make big wealth I'm talking not profit I'm talking wealth wealth uh  some insan level of wealth where I can sayy this is from Trading a seasoned investor wi

ll be also  proud of MH right you have you will go through occasional setbacks the intangible punch punes  on your heart and face will be there you cannot Escape so there are two ways either you play  very safe I want to make just this this this mhm nothing wrong but obviously your risk is also  very tight your reward is also very tight right right but the kind of Trader that I am I want to  make it big I really want to see how much more I can push myself to right that doesn't mean you  are aggr

essive but at the same time you want to see how much your system can kind of know yes and  once that four five months period that thing got over I'm a different Trader now it is all about  how what you feed your mind not many people will tell you many people will come and say Trend stop  not many people can talk about that on losses and how they can come out this is not something that  is taught in the market this is in the in in the books and everything you have to again pick up  your know tool

s and you know weapons and again go go back to the war and try to find your own  this thing of course you are a different Trader one step at a time and everything but uh the  moment I could recover that most of it it felt different and I can proudly say it's no show off  or no kind of sense of achievement or whatever I'm proud of the fact I could do this many people  can just and at that point of time also I could have retired much before okay I didn't need  money but U after a point money becom

es just a number it is all want to play that number  I never take you know profit profit as this amount of profit it's just a number I don't give  much of importance to that what I give importance to the fact ke how much of you know uh learning  that I can do from the same kind of setup that I have and what I can do for the next L Bank  can I do 20 lakhs tomorrow for me that is the learning for me that is a challenge and for me  that is what I compete with I really don't care trading because you

r mind is preoccupied can up  your game to that level then you don't have the scope I really don't care who talks rightly  or wrongly about me but at the same time I know what I want to do right I want to see ke one  day can I take 50 lakhs Bank Nifty one CR Nifty I would be by what exactly have  you done MH for me this is growth for me is not growth that is just a  kind of number that will go up and down Reliance break out can I take one  CR quantity of Reliance if I can do that I'm improve imp

roving my own game and  I'm not answerable to anyone in terms of that's a different story but I cannot cheat  myself and that is what I want to do in 3 years time four years time can I do this and if you want  to do it do you have the infrastructure ready for you know accommodating this kind of fluctuation  B Bank L imagine the kind of fluctuation that will happen correct the same thing 6 years back 5  years back one CR fluctu on what I felt but once you go deep you just see the kind of possibil

ity  that is that is there and it's not for me to tell others to each to his own game we  don't have to preach anyone but yes you keep fighting what you  can do with your own accurate skill there lot of people who have  trading as a business for Generations imagine the kind of environment they have  been exposed to from the much much earlier age experience I I really don't want  my kids to go to any other profession than trading if they wish to I want to  guide them I want to make it a family ex

p already Yes and those people  who are having that you know family business with them how a lucky they are  there are people who guide them correct imagine full and I started in 2012 do  you think I would not start on a much much front put somebody is there  in my back of my head so much much bigger that's a big help  it's a very very big help so successful don't let it go just like that  to people who you care about yeah why not it's a very very nice thing to have  so so the game is all about

how you kind of to beat yourself what do you wear  last year 6 months back 3 months back that is a game I I honestly there lot of  times my friends there I don't even open are you getting me how exactly  see exact we all have our own bank right I'll not be able to perform the level  that I want to perform so it's a conscious decision that I will shield myself from  such kind of factors right and it helps me I want to listen to people I would  spend time with people who I can learn from sit down

with him and learn and learn so many people are doing so great just round the corner so you have we have to  keep learning else we'll get Absol it not say anything not take anything and our family members do not need to go  through that MH I'm extremely lucky my wife is there is extremely supportive my sister my  brother-in-law my mother these are the core you know you are what you are because  of them isn't it so no [Music] never I think he just wanted to understand obviously everybody has inve

stment  and everything but he just wanted to expl it's my good fortune and you know  uh God's blessing if I may say I got a chance to maybe 30 minutes 40 minutes  just to spend oneon-one with him and talk about everything just to kind of  make him aware and everything it was nice for me it's a big deal the the the the  place that I'm coming from the background that I'm coming from to have a platform where  I can speak to Theon uh it's only because of trading isn't it so I look at it that I never

  envisaged myself to be in a situation where I was last week just speak to them one on one just  to share bit of my insight and everything but uh that's how you learn from  such great people and uh thinking about I think beat any profession you know  as long as you keep thinking I have not done enough I still need to work on my Crow I still  need to do better and I still need to plug my Loof holes and everything there is transf for  improvement and there is scope for improvement matter we take

everything for granted so yeah  and again you know I would say let's sayfty you know this journey is going to happen right how many of the Traders are  ready to milk that amount of 9,000 so 9,000 Nifty we talking about say 40,000 Bank Nifty  correct we're talking about much much bigger numbers for sensex maybe one lakh how how  many of the Traders are ready to have that Vis correct people have very shortsightedness  point point point base point and also it is very sad uh people call thems a expi

ry Trader h  I hate The Narrative of the whole this thing I've seen tweets of people good Traders as I was like  that is not how it meant to be right fair enough option but I do not want to ter myself as an expir  Trader as such I there are there are millions of days I have never traded on expiry anyway I don't  sell option and and just to have that thought process key as I think that's very it's a mental  limitation that you're creating for yourself for that matter option buy Focus that's again

a  limitation this thing but at the same time you know I think he was talking about BMW sacrificing  uh not create for sacrificing for not creating van mhm because that is that is not going  to give pure joy of driving luxury feeling sacrific that segment similarly if you want  to be best at certain kind of circle certain focus zone you have to be best in that  and you need to sacrifice certain things so able to it not necessarily every fall every  up move need not have to be captured right and

and we need to focus on zone so I predominantly  I do Nifty Bank Nifty because rest of the stocks might not be having that much of liquidity that I  want to play with MH so but index I'm fine I'm yet to trade midcap Nifty or F Nifty that's a choice  right so everybody has to have their own War you know circle of Excellence circle of competence  competence and Excellence so you have to find that age for that self what exactly I'm good at  so that are at the top of that yeah absolutely instead wh

en I again when I started I started  getting I would like to talk about this option buying selling thing if I may right when I  started because of you know I lost so much money in Futures in leverage right so the  only thing that I could talk or do about is option buying know ATM is 50 stock  option that is one Del which is equal to Future so I got into kind of stock or  index options because of this thing because lack of capital capital right but  right now if I have Capital also this is my cho

ice of not getting to selling MH  right most of the time people thinking they do not have the kind of respect in the  market the way maybe sellers have or cash guys have I think every instrument buying selling cash  future everything has their pros and cons purpose exactly and there are times I know for sure in  one single day quite a close friends who are in hund and everything they lost big amount  of money remember 2019 HDC Bank window for 230c Bank ran like 7080 points in one  hour time B Ni

fty went up around 700 points option kind of it has happened right so my point is so Market is ruthless in terms of you know people at least you know exchang that is I think that's a very great move  so yeah and one more thing also like know 90% I want to talk about this thing fno  report I 90% of the people lose money in the fno market right just think about this thing if  they would have done a kind of a survey in 2014 when I was on a losing Trader and right now  when I'm making a decent amoun

t of money the survey number will be different MH are we clear  yeah just one person right can I call myself a Trader in 2014 up Trader as a professional you  are just playing the market but was I was I a qualified Trader no not at all did I have enough  knowledge in the market to be calling myself as a Trader correct I would like to know a 90% 90% how  many people are actually putting their effort to be qualified as a Trader exactly they you know  skin in the game and they understand the risk r

eward and how many are people like me know  which was doing it exactly so this number is misleading but you need to understand what  background what kind of preparation what kind of capital people are  coming with to play in an F Market will not go so so that's the mindset true but but at the same  time I think F Market if you ask me anything below say 58 lakhs very very  bare minimum you shouldn't be trading in Market remember last to last  weeking that kind of Banks Banks 125% abely bull exact

ly you need to be capitalized or rather  25th February had it happened 10 years back again I would have been broke correct blow correct  so that race to make insane amount of money in a very short period of time mhm that is  dangerous and that is where people need to be cautious about so yeah I think I and again  the % how many people are playing in Indian cricket team how many people who are preparing  for I actually many how many people are turning into right so Excellence will always have a 

lesser number of people and who are putting effort engineer Sports top 1% top 5% andal yes yes one broker guy came and say FD if  if you're so sure about it shut down your business correct it will save people it will save people in so you get into that TR can you not have a syst that is how retail will get saved and  begin they would not see the kind of no days that I have seen M isn't it so I think  those those things can be done yeah just 0% it will never be worth  doing itely Point 90% as bas

ic asop absolutely mindset you know if I may if I may share  my you know the way I look at it l they do not live the life they want to  live they not do the work they need to [Music] do and if you have not seen what  exactly the changes that happen in your life you will never put effort behind  it because you don't believe the vision with no off what correct if I have that Vision why would I  work hard for my craft mm correct situation I didn't have anybody to turn up to I miss  my father when I

was broke I missed him badly there's nothing so there is  no other way but to slog it out like anything continuously every day for  the next seven months then only come out of it I've done that right but I had a  desperation I had a motivation to come out of it because I lost something bad correct  effort because you have bought into a vision now that could be controversi that's a different story but for a second I don't care I have made insane  amount of money in trading which I never thought

I'm worth of I never thought  key uh it is doable it started from some trigger point sometime before where  you get cues from different people maybe it is still okay already [ __ ] yeah yeah I I'm not I'm not at Fling  by no means at all there was a time having an Activa I felt I'm good nothing to worry  well because of money was not there I sold off my car and everything so activ say we  used to go I I didn't feel any shame uh I felt shame because I lost money of my father  my mother and everyt

hing today I run an AMG I don't feel any great about it if I if I if I  can have can see the transformation in 6 seven years 8 years time right I think uh people  need to have that belief it can be done right myaction right until unless I did not  have the motivation to put every ounce of my body Soul blood I had a motivation most  of the people do not have the motivation the only sustainable people need to understand  that correct exactly exactly when somebody I bought a Mercedes few years back

my  first one and there are people who ask me why did you spend that much money my  own family member why did you spend this much of money on this guy why what was the  need a maybe it's a feel good Factor right but if I don't see and understand real  practical value I'm not saying everybody to go buy Mercedes or B no that is not what  I'm trying to say my point is that you know you create a vision and live in that vision  for some time don't you only can move forward you cannot go back exactly

so I cannot go  back from there I only can go up I'm not saying it's a big deal but for me where I  was coming from it was a big deal I I have driven an Activa for good four years 5 years  when things were bad m i was D I was going to dwarka from good from after finishing my  job in a Blue Line bus I didn't have any shur that was that was the only money that I was having I  was shamed because of fact I I ended up myself I brought myself to that point where uh I lost  everything of my savings an

d everything M right but I didn't feel shame with the fact I  was Ding and going in a bus no that is not an issue the same time if this transformation has  come because of trading I don't feel any pride in that but I feel happy from where so my point  I'm trying to make if I can do it trust me most of the people can do it I was average I was  not great student as such I could have been I could have been a great student if I had  the motivation if I had I didn't right may I can transform that par

t of my life to this  I can guarantee most of the people once they have the drive that motivation most of the things  you don't imagine you can do in life can be done with whatever field that you take but most of  us we are comfortably kind of numb in our own space nothing wrong in the job  nothing wrong in startup nothing wrong in trading M but people give  up that drive to go to the next orbit correct we we as an individual as a human being  we must aspire to go to a higher degree of you know

should I say living and and a Mercedes a  BMW doesn't Define you I don't believe in that neither an Activa Define me but you must know  what it feels right you must kind of feel okay fine that's a different story but what  are the Poss ities can I actually get into that shape where I give my heart  soul everything and I get something done and the intention is clear and  it is pure there is nothing that is impossible mised then things  are bad then things would not appear the way they need to be

kind of there trading life honly there is no other way I can talk about  you know if I'm talking with anyone people who are close to me they know uh it most of the 99.9%  time is unfiltered I say things what I feel about I might be right or wrong but uh I'm not  diplomatically correct most of the time so just say whatever I feel like so in that way but yes  I I want to take your medium to say everyone if a loser like me 10 years back and turn around things  the way I have done 90% 95% people can

do it for bhag and Karma as long as it is  good the balance she will take care of everything thankk you lovely lovely  having you and me kind of getting to the space where I can talk so freely thanks for  making me comfortable so yeah lovely lovely