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After three years of support, #Microsoft has officially cut off the first #SurfaceDuo from security updates. However, unlike most other #Android devices, it's dual screen form factor provides it with some interesting use cases even after support has ended. Is it still worthwhile to buy a Surface Duo?
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Controller recommendations
Unfortunately, given the Duo's unique shape and offset USB-C port, most of the mobile controllers currently available will be difficult to use. Instead, you'll want to track down a Bluetooth telescopic controller that can fit the Duo. Right now, the GameSir x2 is the gold standard.
- GameSir x2 on Amazon (affiliate link): https://amzn.to/3Ntqnfo
Emulators that work great on a Surface Duo
- DraStic (DS): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dsemu.drastic&hl=en_US&gl=US
- Citra (3DS): https://citra-emu.org/
- Dolphin (Gamecube and Wii): https://dolphin-emu.org/
- AetherSX2 (PS2): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=xyz.aethersx2.android&hl=en_US&gl=US
- Duckstation (PS1): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.stenzek.duckstation&hl=en_US&gl=US
- PPSSPP (PSP): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.ppsspp.ppsspp&hl=en_US&gl=US
- Retroarch (GBA, SNES, N64, and more): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.retroarch&hl=en_US&gl=US
Note for Citra
Screen organization in Citra can be a bit tricky and require creating a custom layout file. Here's a link to layouts I've created in the past: https://ko-fi.com/s/858e9f6362
Alternatively, Citra MMJ (link: https://github.com/weihuoya/citra/releases ) has more display customization options in-app and will offer slightly better performance for older processors (like the one in the Surface Duo). The catch will be some potential game compatibility issues between MMJ and official if one is ever updated differently from the other.
Chapters
00:00 End of Support
02:13 Returning to the Duo
05:26 Hardware Frustrations
08:41 Mint Mobile
10:28 "It's Not a Smartphone"
12:11 Productivity Boost
13:47 Reading Excellence
15:21 Gaming Support
18:01 Final Thoughts
After three years of support, Microsoft has cut
off the first Surface Duo from security updates, effectively bringing the device to
the end of its life as a smartphone. What’s worse, with the combined scaling back
of Microsoft’s niche products and departure of Panos Panay, it likely also means the end of
the Surface Duo line for the foreseeable future. As someone who’s been using Duo devices
since the 2020 launch—and finds them much more useful than any other smartphone
form factor—it suck
s to see that happen. Still, I kinda get it. These devices are fantastic but have had
software issues since launch, contributing to them never selling in high volume outside
heavily-discounted, second-hand marketplaces. When I demoted my Duo 1 from primary
my device status about two years ago, I left mostly frustrated with the continued
software issues I kept coming across. Nothing was overly dramatic or stopped
from using the device altogether, but small quirks like which screen was active
,
accidental screen touches, and occasionally sluggish performance made me more than ready to
spend more time with the Fold 3 I’d just gotten. My entire first year with the device
was spent with Android 10 though. For those unfamiliar, Android 10 was not
designed with dual screens or foldables in-mind. Microsoft literally duct taped as many
extra features and compatibility use cases as they could to the unoptimized
OS without forking Android altogether. The jankiness I felt was reflective
of the jankiness they’d created. However, an Android 11 update in
early 2022 baked a lot of those features directly into the operating
system—reducing a lot of the stability issues present after the Duo’s
bugs at launch were squashed. Now, it’s on an even more
optimized version of Android 12, with most of those initial
issues nowhere to be seen. Given that—and the fact that you can
find one of these for less than $300 these days—should you still buy a Surface Duo? To answer that question
myself,
I reactivated my Surface Duo, and then I shifted to using it as
my only phone for about three weeks. My immediate reaction was a reminder as to why
I enjoyed the device so much in the first place. Physically, it’s a stark contrast from the
Surface Duo 2 I typically use on a daily basis. It’s much lighter, much thinner,
and provides a stronger illusion of a tablet split down the middle
than the curved glass of the Duo 2. While nowhere near as premium-feeling
as its successor, it fe
els oddly good returning to it and having the screen fold
back flat due to the lack of a camera bump. Of course, that missing bump
is a double-edged sword, since the camera on the original
Duo is pretty much unusable. The external camera on the Duo
2 has been extremely important for quick photos or scanning
menu QR codes at restaurants. As it was back in the Android 10 days,
the camera here might as well not exist due to the acrobatics needed to
use it as a right-handed person. (Though, t
o be honest, i’s not
the biggest loss in my book.) As for usage on a daily basis, I haven’t noticed a ton of differences in general performance
compared to either my Duo 2 or my Fold 4. Even as someone who regularly forgets to
close apps and often runs battery saver to delay charging as long as possible, the Duo
is still an incredibly snappy phone despite powering two displays and its Snapdragon 855
SoC being over 4 years old at this point. It just goes to show that most people
could proba
bly buy older phones and still be happy with the general performance. A lot of the smoothness may also come from
the fact that this is running Android 12, which is far less cumbersome
than Android 10 was years ago. While I wish the Duo were getting
additional OS updates in the future, I’m actually completely fine with the
state of Android 12 on this device. Over the past few weeks, my only re-occurring
issue has been the device occasionally not wanting to rotate back to portrait mode while
auto-rotate
is enabled. Otherwise, it’s been smooth-sailing. If there were a time machine to
send this version of the device back to reviewers in 2020, I think
it would’ve reviewed much better. Most days, the performance feels on-par with
any modern Android phone—albeit with two very nice 4:3 AMOLED displays. Enabling
Niagara Launcher has even made this a really solid one-handed device when folded back. Broadly-speaking, it feels good to
use in a way that’s difficult to fully describe to a
nyone hasn’t gotten
their hands on a Surface Duo yet. The flat, wide screen lends itself to one
of the best keyboard experiences on Android. The width fits my (kinda large) hands perfectly. And there’re little things like being able to
read more text in a single line or propping it up in tent mode to easily watch the
timer on my French press that feel like unique experiences that make my day easier
and are only capable with a Surface Duo. That’s not to say the Surface
Duo is now perfect th
ough. While a ton of the software
gripes have been demolished, there are still a fair few
hardware-related gripes remaining. One that keeps bugging me—and bugged
me years ago as well—is how often it’ll register a back gesture when
scrolling up or down near the hinge. That’s partly due to the flatness of the
folded design leading me to choke up on the device quite a bit for my default
grip. Given the width of the screen, that usually means my thumbs are closer
to the edges when scrolling a
webpage. That grip also has the knock-on effect of
occasionally generating unwanted touch input when I brush the screen with my palm while reaching
for a button on the opposite side from my hand. Another awkwardness is that the Duo still
doesn’t have the ability to select which display stays active by default when folded
back—a feature the Duo 2 had at launch. The software seems way better than
it used to be at detecting my intent, but every now and then it’ll make a
wrong prediction that
requires me to pause and double tap the screen I want
to keep active before continuing on. I’ll even occasionally see the device watching
for the double tap at unexpected times, leading to the active display suddenly
switching due to my finger placement. It doesn’t happen often, but
it’s extremely frustrating when it does—especially since this
problem never happens on my Duo 2. And, on the topic of differences with its sequel. There’s the unchangeable fact that the Duo 1
only has a speake
r behind the left display. As a right-handed person, that makes audio feel more distant while listening to
something while the device’s folded. Similarly, while the device is unfolded,
having the audio coming from only one direction makes watching videos on
the right screen a bit more awkward. Putting all these factors together makes for
some really mixed feelings about the Surface Duo. On one hand, I love the form factor and
using it on a daily basis is a complete joy. Given the opportunit
y to use this or my Galaxy S20
for a year, I’d choose the Surface Duo every time. The software has improved by leaps and bounds
since it was my primary device years ago. In its current state, it looks nothing like the frustrating mess that many reviewers
originally got their hands on in 2020. In fact, to judge this device by its reviews alone would be a disservice to what
Microsoft has accomplished here. Yet, with the software issues mostly solved, the remaining issues that feel baked
into
the hardware are even more obvious. How the screen folds, feels, and stays active
seem so clearly fixed in the Duo 2 that—even with many more feature updates—I’m not sure
how much better the Duo 1 could have gotten. And, those remaining issues, while
not a deal-breaker for me, could make for a lot of frustrations for a lot of people. Even with that in-mind, I think there are
some clear reasons why the Surface Duo might be worthwhile to more than a few people even
after it stops being a good
primary device. But, before I get into why the Surface
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video description for more information. To start delving into why the Surface Duo
still might be worthwhile to consider, I think it’s worth mentioning that
it’s…uh…actually not a smartphone. In fact, here’s how Panos Panay initially
describ
ed the Surface Duo back in 2019. I'm super clear. I'm super clear. You're gonna talk, you're gonna talk
about it as a phone. And, I get that. And, you're gonna talk about
it as a communication device. And, for sure, it does both of those
things incredibly well, for sure. For sure, you can text, you can
write. You can do what you want. But, make no mistake, this product is a Surface. While it has the hardware and functionality to be used as a smartphone, it’s
fundamentally something differen
t. In fact, I think only my wife Emily (behind the camera) has the phone numbers
associated with either of my Duos. As with my Surface Pro 9, they mostly have SIM
cards to have internet access away from Wi-Fi. That’s fundamentally different from my Fold 4
which I’ve used to make the occasional phone call, attend business meetings, or text
folks who don’t have chat apps. That might sound a bit awkward to anyone
who’s ever stared at the large price tag of a Duo 2 or considered one of the Surf
ace Duo
devices as an upgrade to their old smartphone. But, in reality, using either device
feels more akin to a pocketable, dual screen Android tablet than anything else. And, I think it might be worthwhile for
other folks to keep that in mind while considering the Duo 1 long after
Microsoft’s support has ended. Let’s dig into that a bit
more by first addressing one of Microsoft’s key selling points: productivity. In my first video on the Surface Duo, I praised
the device for being the on
e Android device on the market that really excelled at using multiple
apps at the same time. That hasn’t changed. Over the past few weeks with it as my primary
device, it’s still been as good as always for doing whatever multitasking I need it
to do—whether that’s having Pocket Casts open on one display and X open on another,
quickly browsing Outlook with an optimized dual screen view, or looking something
up while YouTube plays off to the side. To this day, Samsung is still probably the
o
nly other brand that’s made huge strides toward usable multiapp functionality with its
Fold line, but using split screen on my Fold 4 still feels more cumbersome than opening
two apps at once on this 3 year-old device. At launch, the Duo also came with baked in Surface
Pen support—which continues to be amazing and has curiously expanded further to Wacom pens (or at
least the pen I bought years ago for my XPS 15). All of which has made this a
kinda great sketch pad over time. While not speci
fically optimized for Duos,
apps like Clip Studio Paint and Medibang can be arranged to fit menus or references
on one screen while sketching on the other. I’d love the screen to be a bit
larger for sketching in general, but it’s still super effective if
I want to quickly jot an idea down. On top of all that, there’s the broadest use case that isn’t going to change as long as most
apps support Android 12, and that’s reading. Kindle, Play Books, Shonen Jump, and OneDrive’s PDF reader all
pe
rfectly span across both displays. Like many apps out there, that’s not because
all of them are specifically optimized but because their tablet views present text in
a way that feels natural with the hinge. The flat, high contrast displays look
great while reading books in general. Meanwhile, the 4:3 aspect ratios of the displays
feel only a touch wider than a pocket-sized novel. I could honestly see someone picking up a
Surface Duo solely as a compact Android eReader. For comics especially
, it’s a joy to use and the perfect size
to kick back and dig into a new series. Heck, even news articles feel better on
the Duo than any other devices of its size—save for maybe a mini tablet
or the inner screen of a foldable. Considering that I scroll while reading, spanning an article across both displays in
portrait provides this illusion of reading on a much larger tablet. It’s extremely
comfy, despite the large hinge gap. For tablet-y sorta productivity use cases, the Duo’s kinda a pe
rfect device that allows
me to get done what I need to get done. And, it being pocket-sized makes it convenient enough that I can easily travel
with it as a secondary device. But, as most of y’all could probably guess, the greatest use case is probably
as a retro emulation device. With its Snapdragon 855 SoC,
it’s the most performant Android emulation and cloud gaming device
currently available under $400. It’s more than capable of PS2, Wii, and Gamecube emulation—though the first two
migh
t come with a few more asterisks overall. Those retro emulation chops are backed by
incredibly solid 4:3 displays that will either eliminate or greatly minimize black bars seen
while playing games without widescreen patches. The built-in 4G modem also gives
it a leg up over other emulators in its price range. Attaching a Bluetooth
controller makes services like Steam Link, PlayStation Remote Play, and GeForce Now a
lot more useable without a Wi-Fi connection. Though, for services like Remot
e Play
that have adequate portrait modes, that Bluetooth controller may not even
be necessary for slower-paced games. The touch controls on those sorts of apps fit
naturally on the lower display while playing. Heck, Xbox Cloud Streaming even still offers
a small library of touch input-enabled games with control schemes specifically
meant to be used with the Surface Duo. Unlike many devices without integrated
controllers, the Surface Duo shines as a really comfortable, versatile gaming devi
ce
even when I leave my controller at home. None of which is even the main reason
to pick one of these up as an emulator. The main reason is for DS emulation.
As I’ve said over the years, the only way better than the Surface Duo to
play most DS games would be to get a 3DS. Even then, the Duo has larger
screens, more accessible cheat codes, and a ton more quality of life features than
something like Twilight Menu on the 3DS. A couple years ago, I replayed Pokemon Black on my Duo with touch
controls and event
items enabled and it-it was a blast. As much as I enjoy my New 3DS XL,
it pales in comparison to the big, beautiful screens of my Surface Duo. Like, honestly, for anyone who’s
been clamoring for retro emulation manufacturers to release dual
screen handhelds, this is it. Even if a company like Retroid announces
a new dual screen Android device tomorrow, it likely won’t be as polished,
powerful, or sleek as a Surface Duo. And, that kinda brings me to my final thoughts. If
the Surface Duo’s viewed as another
smartphone that could replace whatever smartphone y’have on hand, it’s
no longer really worth buying. The form factor makes it incredibly interesting,
but the hardware feels more like a beta version of the Surface Duo 2—which is actually a
very good (albeit expensive) smartphone. Combined with the fact that regular
security updates from Microsoft have ended, there’s no way I could recommend that
someone pick up a Surface Duo as their primary device—even
if I’ve largely enjoyed
revisiting it over the past few weeks. That perspective seems flawed though. Unlike most other devices in the smartphone
category, if I removed the 4G antennas and ability to make phone calls from the Surface Duo,
its main selling points remain largely the same. Folks considering the Surface
Duo these days should instead think of it more as an Android tablet
that excels for specific use cases. Do you need a dedicated electronic
organizer to manage meetings and quick
ly jump between social media
accounts? The Surface Duo’s for you. Do you want an Android eReader that fits in your pocket and feels snappy to
use? The Surface Duo’s for you. Do you like Android emulation and have been
specifically looking for a device that can handle both touch controls well and DS games as
they were intended? The Surface Duo’s for you. Meanwhile, if none of those main points
sounded appealing or you aren’t looking for a secondary Android device in
your life on top of your
smartphone, then it’s fine to leave the
Surface Duo in the past. Though, it’s worthwhile to
remember that at the end of its life the Surface Duo was actually
a surprisingly good Android device. For as many times as dual screen experiences
have been attempted on Android, the Surface Duo is the first time that experience
has actually yielded something more impactful than stapling a secondary
display onto a standard smartphone. The form factor, use cases, and flexibility
built into the devi
ce’s design is something unique that—I hope—folks interested in
consumer tech will remember fondly the next time a company dabbles
into dual screen technology. Those are my thoughts though.
I’d love to know yours! Looking back at the past three years of the
Surface Duo, what’s the lasting impression you have of the devices themselves?
Let me know down in the comments. As always, if you found this video interesting
or informative, go ahead and click that like button and then get subscribed
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more dual screen content in the future. While the Surface Duo’s design seems
to live on via the Pixel Fold line, the Microsoft dual screen line seems to be
done for now—Microsoft please prove me wrong. But, heck, given that the Duo 2’s slated
to have its final updates a year from now, I might need to plan a similar
video for it next year. But...we’ll see. This video was provided in part thanks to Mint
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