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Sports Business Update, Thursday's CBB Previews | The Early Line Hour 2, 3/9/23

Kevin and Donnie are joined by special guest Rick Horrow to start the opening hour to discuss the latest in sports business. The guys then preview a hefty slate of conference tournament action across college basketball on Thursday.

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[Music] foreign [Music] number two of the early line on a Thursday morning Kevin Walsh Donnie right side here a little NBA preview lots of come inside this hour Rick Harrow is going to join us Big Time college basketball sleigh Ben Stevens will enter the fault here as well look I've been labeling this to Jillian Brooks Draymond Green Showdown and I have to because uh for those that have not been following Dylan Brooks came out and said he doesn't like Draymond Green and he questioned whether Dra
ymond Green would really you know be the same player if he wasn't around Stephan clay and he said that he gets away with Allah so then Draymond Green on the Draymond Green Show responded he called Dylan Brooks an idiot that is his words not mine uh he said that's again that's that's his words not mine uh he said that Dylan Brooks uh is probably disliked by all of his teammates in Memphis and he told him that he was a clown and he'd never win an NBA championship so and again happened the very rec
ently here that Draymond clip I believe came out yesterday and they are playing tonight golden state is on the road their two-point favorite as we know they are always a disaster in this spot if you don't believe me Steph Curry came back played against the Lakers they lose 113-105 Steph made 10-3s against Oklahoma City they lose 137-128 they are 7 and 25 on the road and yet here they are again favored on the road against the Memphis Grizzlies yeah it's a tough one it is a tough one to go over be
cause you look at Memphis do you want to go near that team right now without John Morant not necessarily but also you can look at the Golden State Warriors the same exact way here Kevin they're on the road they're slight favorites you look at this game go yeah they should be able to win that game of course they should Until you realize they never win on the road this is a team that was full gas going up against OKC and got busted out now they're going to go up against 18 that actually wants to w
in in their own building that plays well in their own building and we're expecting them to do the same thing sometimes you just have to take a step back and say well what makes sense tonight total is going to be in the mid-230s there let's just say it closes 236 right well I'm immediately looking towards Steph Curry and Klay Thompson three-point props I don't care who actually wins this game because I'm not trusting the Grizzlies without their best player but I'm certainly not trusting the Golde
n State Warriors going on the road and laying points here which means they have to win in order to get the cover here it might just be as easy as Steph Curry is going to go nuts and we'll let the chips fall where they made for me here Kevin the thing for me is golden state has often been able to get up to play Memphis they like playing the Grizzlies that's why I actually do think the Draymond Green Dylan Brooks thing is sneaky relevant here because this will have Golden State's full attention co
ming into this game but also remember now it's not the same result but remember last year Memphis Donnie without John Morant was essentially the best team in the NBA they scored 135 points in every game yeah what is going on here like they never lose now that's not happened so far and in fact they've only covered I believe three of 11 games that John Moran has missed this season so they've missed job greatly however they are not the type of team to me that is just going to lose every single game
that John misses this is a long way of saying I want nothing to do with this side it it just scares me to death because I see both teams stepping up I'm tempted by an over but maybe in the first quarter maybe in the first half here it's a bigger number Donnie that I don't know if I want to get involved with for the entirety of the basketball game especially with the Warriors coming off of a 137 128 performance it's hard to carbon copy and repeat something like that but I'm looking towards this
total tonight as I think there will be spots to uh try and attack radio audience joins us here on a Thursday morning couple of games to get to uh throughout this slate the Bucks tonight lay 13 to the Brooklyn Nets 13 points to the Brooklyn Nets the numbers come down a little bit I'm seeing a 12 and a half on the FanDuel sports book Total 231 here that is a big number for a bro for a Brooklyn Nets team that I believe is is going to have most of their key guys available for this game here tonight
looks like well maybe not yeah maybe that's not the case Donnie if here's the starting lineup here it doesn't look all that great obviously Seth Curry Michael Bridges Joe Harris Dorian Finney Smith and nerlins know well now it looks like you're gonna get a full gas lineup tonight at least anticipated from a Milwaukee Bucks perspective holiday Allen Middleton onto the cupo and Lopez but the number seems just a little bit too big and also you have to remind ourselves too like the the NBA we've see
n this time and time again and also we saw just a few weeks back with Milwaukee don't you remember the easy win they were supposed to get over the Celtics with nobody in their lineup and took them right down to the wire we're not saying that Milwaukee can't win this game and should win this game they're very good basketball team and very good at home but also keep in mind and that's three straight victories here this is one of those teams where then we say they had to work their way through some
things they're sort of sliding out of the break it looks like they recorrected some of those things I think they'll be competitive tonight I do yeah expected to be out though tonight Spencer Dinwiddie Royce O'Neill cam Johnson Nick Claxton as well as Ben Simmons uh who has sadly found himself right back in the irrelevancy pile as we never expect him to play and when he's out it's hardly news uh last one we have time for here Sacramento and New York Kings Knicks here Sacramento's a three and a h
alf Point favorite at home total for this one uh is Big Time 235 here on the West Coast those are the kind of numbers that you expect to see uh for a Sacramento Kings game here Knicks had their winning streak snap by the Charlotte Hornets of all people perhaps they have an opportunity to build a new one here in Sacramento now maybe they were just being extra cautious in the last game with Jalen Brunson but he's due back in the lineup tonight if I get Jalen Brunson and also Julius Randle in the l
ineup I like the Knicks I think we'll get points tonight I think the Knicks can go on the road to pick up a win only though if Brunson comes back and is playing the pool excuse me playing those full minutes tonight I do think that is a big thing uh whether or not you see availability tonight to come in from Jalen Brunson I think the Knicks have uh found themselves in a listen and they had a lot of you know a couple of wins without brunsonware they're going to try and be cautious here uh which is
a good spot for the Knicks to be in uh who are 39-28 on the season quick break we'll be right back [Music] thank you [Music] it was a huge day in the Western Conference then Denver six and a half games in front now the Memphis Grizzlies who will at least move forward in the foreseeable future without jaw Morant if they're at full health and Steph Curry as it came back yesterday you know they can get things ironed out but if he's healthy and that team is ready to roll I'm never going to be doubt
ing them so I of course love the Suns obviously their their offense and what they can do on defense I think will continue to improve the morning after only on Sports grid nobody wants to see him nobody wants to see him play but it's like how do you build the lineup or how do you bet against this guy when he just is in the top three or wins in every single tournament John ROM is absolutely going to thrive he's figured out that in some of these bigger events of the Majors look at yourself into the
weekend and a lot of these guys will be taking themselves out of the tournament this week so look it's a big price tag but I think uh John Ramey's likely going to be in there fantasy sports today only on Sports grid the question is is that it right I mean Billy that's it Indy Washington is anybody else um gonna hand him the keys to the castle again or is he is he back up now I mean his name is mud in the NFL and it's on the between the injuries and how bad he is it's a real dangerous cocktail t
o drink Pharrell Coast to Coast only on Sports grid but again you you know you had a new event the WBC is like hey you got to play in this so you had Derek Jeter playing I think you're seeing a lot more excitement you're seeing a lot more players uh star players really join in and I think when you look at this list you look at that top 10 you're like oh that's fantastic and then you think about who's not in there you know Juan Soto's not in there mookie bets isn't in the top 10. newswire only on
Sports grid Sports grid your 24 7 Sports wagering Network the early line Sixers next can't miss stuff the morning after not too pleased with that game winning three fantasy sports today he's really the only guy where you throw in the ball and you're like all right you're gonna be able to get a shot betting the amount of money that will be coming in for this day Pharrell Coast to Coast hours I've ever seen in my life and getting back up to create more stressful when I just ride with these guys m
ost of the time in game live what about prime 10 minutes left to get it done good luck with that in game live you jump on we're going to win a film with Captain tickets get The Winning Edge only on Sports grid [Music] welcome back into the early line Kevin off Stony right side here now getting excited to talk about the World of Sports business with sports grid Sports business analysts the sports professor Recaro Rick how are you on a Thursday morning 2004 Stanley Cup Championship lightning wins
that championship and in the celebration I got a free cup so more important for me everyone don't pay for it yeah how was that promoting the NHL all right that's enough all right now people will always remember that company did not show that even slightly recommend oh man great 2004. early start from you so Rick yesterday a piece of news comes out here that caught my attention uh which was that the WWE is trying to legalize gambling in the United States on wrestling a couple of states that they
are targeting have you been trying to follow this here and is this something that the WWE actually could be successful in their attempt with it's really tough because it presumes that this is you know pure content pure non-scripted and nobody knows the outcome and of course those of us who know wrestling realize that's kind of difficult Canada has been jousting with the same kind of thing the province of Ontario saying you know UFC which is more skill than luck let's say maybe uh WWE probably no
t they're going to attempt at a couple of low-key places and then see if they can they're obviously pushing really hard you see the article up there and the bottom line is if I were having an opportunity to bet on the WWE and I know what goes into it I don't know if I'd lay any money on it would you well I I would if I knew what was going on it's like when people bet on the NFL draft though I'm just saying though right no but but yeah look at the end of the day on it though right well yeah WWE n
o I mean I mean that's jabroni stuff right yeah right yeah I mean we'll change the whole script that was my question I mean that's my point all right if you know something is scripted and you don't have access to the script why would you bet on it I mean that that's that's part of the issue although I'm sure I'm going to be I'm going to be nailed for that comment but yeah they're pushing and we'll see what happens by the way we talk about like you know betting on let's just say professional spor
ts in there you talked about the NFL for so many years saying no we don't want that around then also the owners are open to the idea like oh my goodness look at our valuations from our business practices going up if we do allow gambling we see the WWE de facto on sale nine billion dollars will they sell it or not could this actually help revenues for the WWE and also be more marketable if they want to sell and be a more high price entity well of course it is and and you know if I were in their b
usiness strategy meetings I would say let's try to make the case that this is random and not scripted and let's try to get as many states as we can to buy into that story and so if that happens the revenues go up the valuation goes up the uh the uh the interest goes up uh and it all goes up but I'm not quite sure that automatically means it's going to happen you know just because they think it'll be an important part of business strategy you know I remember the old days hey hey stack Calhoun the
people who are watching and listening to this show probably don't remember some of the old wrestlers but you know you tell me that was not scripted I I I beg to differ by the way so that that's that's that's the core because as we know a few years ago when we started the whole issue about legalized gambling and the Integrity issue everybody was saying well it's going to ruin all games because it's all fixed and now it's going to be fixed and we can't have people lose their money because it's so
mething that is already contrived well I think we've we've stick handled that argument pretty well nobody's making that argument a lot we're having a lot of good policing in other sports but I'm not sure we're ready for a scripted event that people can bet on I mean it exists overseas so it wouldn't be the first of its kind they're not now there wouldn't the goal would not be okay actually it's not scripted anymore because well then it's just what really bad fights like that wouldn't be the goal
I read up that they're going to say oh we would do whatever we can to not have the information League uh League I know overseas they keep the limits very very tight on betting on wrestling which again makes sense again it's the same way they'll keep limits tighter on betting on the NFL draft or the NBA draft for that matter there because it is different when you're betting on events that are not actual games right because there's there's less in the air you're betting on information and what is
available to you there uh talk to me Rick though we look outside uh you know the wrestling scope here and get into what people would label Real Sports uh if if they wanted to be taggy uh what else have you been following right now in the sports business landscape well I'm going to the players this afternoon and and this is the major that is the Players major and it'll be very interesting to see a full field event again uh after Liv has uh decimated and divided I will say my perception after goi
ng to the Honda and being part of that tournament here in South Florida and having an incredible finish with two guys who are only moderately known in a playoff and then going to Bay Hill and seeing that leaderboard with 11 people within one stroke of the lead five holes before the end of the tournament uh the guys who ran the Honda I run the Honduras saying man why couldn't we have that field that's what elevated events do or don't do and you can really see the difference as we're heading into
major season and the player starts it by the way uh it's a meteorological report you get that from me today it's going to be in the 80s all week in Florida just like it's been the last couple of weeks even if you consider Jacksonville Florida and not South Georgia it's going to be not too windy the scores are going to be amazing using you're going to bake on the greens and a good time is going to be had by all especially at 17. there will be one hotel one hotel maybe there'll be one hole in one
I'm 17. uh but uh but not today it'll be tomorrow now now Rick we know you probably didn't have to buy a ticket here to get into that event but most people do let's just say the ticket for a day passed there is 100 he looked down and say I thought I had to pay 100 bucks for a ticket it's 148 with fees the reason I bring this up here Ticketmaster Taylor Swift big Duo there fighting between who's actually going to get the right pricing but how about A-Rod now is he dipping his toes into the water
to get into the ticketing game because lucrative yeah he and his money guy remember he's the guy that uh that uh John lore who spent the money on their Equity interest in the Timberwolves and why not get into ticketing because that gives you access to Arenas it gives you access to teams and it gives you access to the ability to maybe clean up the Ticketmaster Taylor Swift controversy so you may see some other entities dip into this it's going to be um uh easier resale it'll be access to a larger
number of people their whole number of marketing things the ticket sellers can do that'll expand especially if your partners with teams and Arenas you know it used to be when I was growing up right you would wait down the corner for somebody who would whisper with you and tag on your shirt wait for the cops to look the other way and give you the cash we've come a long way man oh man uh Rick quickly here we've got the tournament getting close uh obviously March Madness always a big deal what are
we expecting uh and what should we be watching as the tournament is approaching well two guys uh retire their coaching Legacy bayheim an amazing guy Adams maybe not so much of an amazing guy but now we get into the real Short Stroke now we see the double by teams in the ACC tournament we got Duke we got other guys and the more important issue is we have some regions that are getting events next week that haven't had them before I'm going to Albany for that region that should be fun Columbus Ohi
o has a region Orlando a lot less west of the Mississippi Regions this year but it's time and it's time for the dancing to begin with teams that you didn't have a thought about it just remember Florida Gulf Coast and Andy Enfield and that run he was great because he was a good coach Peter was also great because his wife was a swimsuit model just remember that great stuff there from Rick unfortunately Rook looks like you're not going to be able to take us out here we do hate to see that though bu
t it has been one as always that is Rick Haro Sports grid Sports business atlas there the sports Professor himself would you believe it on a Thursday right here on the early line and I so shot at me exactly what the people were hoping for we go to college next goodbye come back next week [Music] thank you [Music] it was a huge day in the Western Conference then Denver six and a half games in front now the Memphis Grizzlies who will at least move forward in the foreseeable future without jaw Mora
nt if they're at full health and Steph Curry as it came back yesterday you know they need to get things ironed out but if he's healthy and that team is ready to roll I'm never going to be doubting them so I of course love the Suns obviously their their offense and what they can do on defense I think will continue to improve the morning after only on Sports grid nobody wants to see him nobody wants to see him play but it's like how do you build the lineup or how do you bet against this guy when h
e just is in the top three or wins in every single tournament John ROM is absolutely going to thrive he's figured out that in some of these bigger events at the Mages look at yourself into the weekend and a lot of these guys will be taking themselves out of the tournament this week so look it's a big price tag but I think uh John Ramey's likely going to be in there fantasy sports today only on Sports grid the question is [Music] is anybody else um gonna hand him the keys to the castle again or i
s he is he back up now I mean his name is mud in the NFL and it's a zombie between the injuries and how bad he is it's a real dangerous cocktail to drink Pharrell Coast to Coast only on Sports grid a lot of Hall of Fame but again you you know you had a new event the WBC is like hey you got to play in this so you had dirt feeder playing I think you're seeing a lot more excitement you're seeing a lot more players uh star players really join in and I think when you look at this list you look at tha
t top ten you're like oh that's fantastic and then you think about who's not in there you know Juan Soto's not in there Mookie Betts isn't in the top 10. newswire only on Sports grid Sports grid your 24 7 Sports wagering Network the early line Sixers Nets can't miss stuff the morning after not to please with that game winning three fantasy sports today he's really the only guy where you throw him the ball and you're like all right you're gonna be able to get a shot betting the amount of money th
at will be coming in for those things Pharrell Coast to Coast hours I've ever seen in my in my life and getting back up to create more stressful when I just ride with these guys most of the time in game live 10 minutes left to get it done good luck with that in game live you jump on we don't want to win a film with cash in tickets yet The Winning Edge only on Sports grid [Music] thank you foreign [Music] folks a little College a lot of college in fact the IRS you're making an argument yesterday
is today tomorrow maybe actually the the peak of the college basketball season here more games than we know what to do with on a Thursday slate almost all of the top 10 in action here uh it's tremendous here on Thursday no it's good it's wall-to-wall basketball this is what we like at this time of day this is why we get that little preview like last week you know some of the group of five teams the mid Majors get underway now the power fives get underway and then next week everybody gets underwa
y in the tournament it is a great time a lot of content and a lot of basketball to watch throughout the day more games now Kevin than even in March Madness which is uh exciting exciting times let's get straight to the action here we'll start this off in the ACC with Wake Forest and Miami Miami to me as Ben kind of this sleeping giant if you will uh there were 14 in the country uh this offense has performed all year long which is how you get a big time total of 156 and a half number here against
the Demon Deacons what do we think Donnie from Miami and Wake Forest yeah I don't know what's in the air down there in the ACC right where you're worried about neutral courts and some teams being a little bit nervous but scoring certainly is up down there and you're saying that a 156 and a half if I'm just looking at the number itself Miami is going to play its first game in the ACC tournament Wake Forest played yesterday and won at the gun against Syracuse I would lean towards the under in this
game just because Kevin again if you just do the random math they're like 75 75 puts you in that range who says Wake Forest after playing yesterday still gonna have those legs now granted they're college kids don't have to go on the road they're not playing at Wake Forest and then going on the road at BC at this point they're still in the same building they have the sight lines down they have the normalcy but also Kevin let's keep in mind again Wake Forest played yesterday it's not as if they'r
e going to play again tonight at 8 o'clock this game's gonna tip off to 12. so a fast turnaround for Wake Forest and also this will be Miami's first game here if we're taking a look at the two teams Miami is Sensational to offense number one inefficiency here they're led by some great guard play Jim larranega and this team co-champions of the ACC they should win in this one Wake Forest gets down by the three-point shot they love to shoot at Kevin as we previewed yesterday number one in ACC play
at volume from behind the three-point line but Miami defends it okay and also chases you off of that line I don't know if it's going to be there now Wake Forest scoring inside the arc Kevin number two overall and field goal percentage of close to 54 but how about their point distribution 15th out of 15 teams if the three balls not going down you live and die by that I'm not so sure Wake Forest can hang around with Miami but actually would lean towards the under it's a high price here Miami plays
some good defense stalls it out at the end and that's how you get it I I that's interesting I will say the now it's not a perfect thing again it's a trend though uh Wake On the season has been an underdog uh in 13 games ten two and one to the over in those 13. but it always depends how the numbers match up here and perhaps they match up towards an under can I ask you actually uh something quickly though about just conference tournaments DRS because it is a rare time where wake is played right y
ou know rest versus rust exists on all sports but this is unique in that it's like well Wake Forest played yesterday there really shouldn't be that tired they're they're adjusted to the court do you factor that in at all when you're trying to break down a conference tournament game you try to early in the tournament it doesn't really matter and you can almost argue Kevin you get a bounce from saying like hey man yeah we won yesterday we didn't go to overtime we didn't play triple overtime it was
one game same building as if we would be you work harder Kevin in practice than you actually do in games they won so they can take that momentum and also as I said you're staying in the same Hotel you're taking the same path to the gym probably the same locker room we were just here yesterday we scored 77 points we're feeling good that could be a boost but granted these are long tournaments here teams like Wake Forest might have to play on four and five straight days you worry about it after th
e third or fourth and also keep in mind as Wake Forest wins the competition gets even better so it's no surprise when they start to slow down because they are playing better opponents certainly something to keep our eye on there let's keep with another early game which is Baylor in Iowa State again this is the beauty of today right these are noon 12 30 tips here uh which we love to see Baylor four and a half Point favorite in this basketball game against Iowa State uh Iowa State right now uh is
in an interesting spot uh we've got a total of 134 and a half right now what do you see here with Baylor and the Cyclones it should be a fun one because if you're just looking at the two teams what do you say to yourself well bail is probably the better basketball team or they should win minus four and a half but also when you say to yourself it's hard to beat a team three times in a season no it's not but you would look at this number and go yeah Baylor probably handled Iowa state twice that's
not the case I would say plastered Baylor two times already so they're coming into this game on a neutral quote garlic we already have your number here's what it's going to come down to though Baylor number one in Big 12 Conference play efficiency on offense you know what Iowa state does on defense number one in defensive efficiency so we know it's going to come down there the one thing Iowa state does do is they foul which will put Baylor on the line Baylor out of the 10 teams in conference pla
y number three at getting to the free-throw line but we do know this you live and die by the three-point shot for Baylor they're exceptional number one in conference play making the three-point shot of close to 37 as a team why is that important Kevin they're also number one in conference played volume we see it so many times hey this team jacks up a ton of three-point shots yeah eventually they'll make some but they don't don't pick and choose their spots which means that their percentages will
dip that's not the case with Baylor and also take a look at Iowa State I just told you there's 10 teams in the big 12. they're 10th in point distribution from three-point range not number one which would be fantastic 10th which means they'll let you shoot it if Baylor's three-point shots are going down they should win but again sometimes it is about take the points and pray and keep in mind as we started off this conversation I always beat Baylor twice I'm not coming into this game saying hey w
e got to find a way to beat this team they've already done it twice a year maybe taking the points and also Kevin can we lean on this if you live and die by the three-point shot isn't it better just to fade a team that does that because if they're not making a crazy amount of three-point shots which again we said that Iowa State can allow it you look at some of these numbers during the scene game one 22 from the three-point line against Iowa State bear was game number two around 35 both of those
games well below their numbers maybe they let them shoot with a hand in their face but I'm gonna take the points here with Iowa State interesting look as you mentioned by the way not narrow victories there a pair 15-point wins yes for recyclones over Baylor the one thing that you see in those games right Iowa state scored 77 and 73. you've talked about it a lot the Baylor defense is hardly Championship level right so you know if you try and go maybe a Cyclones team total here and maybe that cou
ld be the most trustworthy angle and almost worry less about that Balor variance from the three-point line where they go wild and they're in the 80s or they absolutely fall apart could be a way to attack it here let's go to the Big East we've got Providence and Yukon man of memories is memory served here are you gonna get involved with a player prop in this game is this was was Providence Yukon where you were trying to attack with the free throws and Hopkins or is that a different matchup for pr
oblems in the Big East I think it might have a different matchup but I do remember getting dad on that where one team fouls the other team does goes One Direction and thousands it's a good point you bring up because also I like the the way you brought that up too because you don't actually have to take a side or a total here I mean the FanDuel Sportsbook is going to have player props up all game longwear if you just like an equation this guy can make three point shots this guy should score the t
empo of this game so many different ways to bet them when it was a couple years ago where all you had was a side and total so I'm glad you did bring that up a lot of different ways to bet some of these games and that by the way uh if memory serves the first game against UConn he took 15 free throws uh we're talking about the best player on Province by the way Bryce Hopkins uh and he got to 27 and in the second game he got to 16 points made six free throws uh and I believe that was the dependent
on when you were able to get that number how successful uh that number was but what do you want to do here with the six and a half uh spread that Yukon lays or perhaps the 144 and a half over under here's a tough one it's in the garden it's going to be jumping both of these teams certainly have Avid fan bases there I can't wait to watch it play I'll put you all right I mean we are still going to deal with Providence getting to the line more than any other team in the Big East and also Connecticu
t fouling more but how do you want to weigh on how these teams ended the season I like Providence I like Ed Cooley and anybody usually says like hey give a six and a half points they're going to be able to survive and might be able to win the game rightfully so but you also take a look at a Providence team Kevin that's coming in loses of three or four games UConn one of the hottest teams in the country and also keep in mind UConn was the team we opened up the season going wow they could be a num
ber one overall seed and then turned into what actually happened to UConn are they a bad basketball team now hitting the gas pedal once again I see that number it seems high and on granted I do subscribe to the take the points and pray Theory when you're getting a good team with Providence but I don't know if Providence can win this game here if Providence isn't getting to the line and certainly making it you know let's just say easy charity straight free throws to keep themselves in the game I
don't see where they really match up in this game I think UConn is red hot playing in the garden I do think they handle their business this I'll go against Ed Cooley in this one and lay the six and a half points all right how about that tell you what we got we've got two left and one of them looks like maybe a DRS special so we're gonna hold that off and we're gonna get to this other ACC game that you want to hit here which is Duke and Pitt Duke's first game in the ACC tournament there are five
and a half Point favorite against the Pitt Panthers here total for this one 141 and a half pit again yesterday played a very high scoring basketball game perhaps could be in line against Duke here what are you seeing yeah here's what happens in the ACC tournament every year which always I get a kick out of Duke and UNC are de facto home teams here but here's the issue Duke comes and fills up the arena by about 30 percent Pittsburgh will come into this game fill it up with about 10 percent of the
ir fans but the rest of the fans will be Carolina NC State and everybody hates Duke so if Pittsburgh is in this ball game this place will be rocking but not actually in Duke's Direction I'm gonna take Pittsburgh in this game I like the fact I'm gonna play the angle Kevin right play Yesterday play well on offense transfer it today and also Pitt had a pretty good season during the ACC they just weren't able to hang a banner I'm taking Pitt over Duke in Greensboro I'm excited to see what Duke offer
s up here as they were unbeaten in their own building this season true as we get set for this tournament right and we've talked that's about all season long home versus Road home versus Road homeverse Road here how does a Duke Blue Devils team go out there and look in a spot like this Duke on the season did play five neutral sight games they were two and three against the spread in those games again but when were those games oh they're all in November right so it's it's not a perfect sample size
but these are the kind of things that we try and see coming up next b e double s Ben Stevens joins us right here on the early line we'll talk a little bit about Jim Boeheim hanging maybe not hanging up maybe getting fired I don't really know what happened with Jim Dahan we'll talk about that as well as some other games on today's board [Music] thank you [Music] foreign assist tonight you only get 70 Thrive points uh the under by the way is 1 30 tonight so heavy heavy juice on the over are you g
onna go contrarian here or is it just that simple no I'm just taking the blind chair right it's sort of like the easy money thing here I'll just take it you're gonna give it to me I'll take it here take my points and run mackerably also another he's not Eric Carlson fantasy sports today only on Sports grid Michigan State piking at the line coach and Iowa State hitting nothing but threes the entire minute 10. it's shocking to see a team coached by Tom is of making these kind of mistakes down the
stretch because to me Tom Izzo is one of the best coaches of this generation in game live all access only on Sports grid the way we set the table for the ACC the top four seeds in conference play all get double buys the number one overall seed the mighty hurricane it's the best backcourt guys in the ACC by far throw in Jordan Miller uh this team is an absolute monster and they've already handled business against all of those top teams uh in the ACC the early line only on Sports grid I guess the
question is um is that it right I mean Billy that's it Indy Washington is anybody else um gonna hand him the keys to the castle again or is he is he back up now I mean his name is mud in the NFL and it's somebody between the injuries and how bad he is it's a real dangerous cocktail to drink Pharrell Coast to Coast only on Sports grid Sports grid get The Winning Edge let him play that's the problem with the Raiders the over management and the coach NFL is the hardest sport in the world to bet and
it's because it's never automatic and they can't leave until one of the offenses scores three touchdowns they'll be there till November cricket match okay from a prop perspective by the way Aaron judge around a plus 215 price to hit a home run he connects I would say so this has got to be the fight of the afternoon so we're trying to convince you it's maybe not the best bet but let's have fun it's a fun show for fun guys Utah tag I mean it's tank City I mean it's gonna be like GI Joe all over a
gain oh my God it of course he did okay he has been a negative but the line is dropped down get all the real-time data latest line shifts player props and more only on Sports grid foreign [Music] [Music] this thing over to Ben Stevens and the morning after crew but we decided why wait 20 minutes Kevin Wallace County right side we bring now into the show Ben Stevens Ben how you doing Kev I'm doing very well it's great to be here on this Thursday morning with both you and DRS I like how you said t
hat pass it off to Ben Stevens in the morning after crew I've never heard it from that perspective it feels good to be back on the early line with both of you thank you for having me yeah some say you you owe us a couple you know what I mean because I mean Donnie Most people say Monday Tuesday you know ratings are through the roof on the TMA side so it's nice to see Ben Ben show up here on the early line now it is both you into in a studio together fantastic stuff and here we go and we're we're
sitting side by side right now uh uh I can't I can't I can't wait to get Donnie down uh in studio Donnie is like got a lot of space next to me here uh in Jersey there's a lot of room for me a huge desk oh yeah where are where I am right now man we could both have lunch on this table so look uh then I want to get to some of the news yesterday which involved the Syracuse head coach well Ben why don't you help me out here all I know is Jim Boeheim is no longer the coach of Syracuse basketball I'm n
ot sure if he retired or was fired I really can't tell I just know he's not the coach anymore take me through how you feel knowing that he's no longer the coach and what exactly the Outlook is for him and the program Kev is a big J journalist and as the most unbiased man in sports media I think you set that up very well all we know is as we can State the facts is that Jim Boeheim is no longer returning as the head coach of Syracuse men's basketball after 47 years at the helm Kev I think it was r
eally interesting from what I understand and how I perceive this this was always going to be the plan I believe these were the conversations had by Jim Boeheim and the athletic director at Su John wildak among the Syracuse Administration in the athletic department that at the end of this season Jim it was time to hang it up and call it a career but Jim behind can't make things easy Jim Boeheim can't make things clear there is no Clarity to what happened yesterday Kev I think it was an unceremoni
ous retirement of sorts because I believe the plan was at the conclusion of Syracuse's season whenever that came and it came yesterday pretty much at the buzzer in the opening round of the ACC tournament for the orange against Wake Forest that after a few days and the dust had settled at the end of this year Syracuse would make their announcement honoring Jim behind because he is Syracuse basketball that he was retiring and passing the torch along to Adrian red Autry however at the end of the ga
me yesterday in his post-game press conference when he was asked solely about his plans for 2023-24 and if he would consider retirement this off-season Jim could not make things easy because that is not who Jim Boeheim is at the tender age of 78 years old so when he gave that kind of jokingly statement Kev that fell a little bit flat when he said I gave my retirement speech last Saturday I guess you guys just missed it and then he was pressed by a reporter about what his plans were for 2023 and
next season and then Jim said I don't know it's up to the university and then when asked what do you want to do and he said I don't know and then they said Jim do you want to come back and he says you're talking to the wrong guy he made it very confusing the entire way to which I think Syracuse said all right Jim you said it's up to the university two hours later it's up to the university it's time to call it quits I imagine there's no way he actually thought that they would let him go though th
ough Donnie do you get the sense that the the Syracuse faithful like B Double S here really not all that broken up about it and maybe I don't know they were kind of tired of Jim beiheim and maybe they'd love to see a little man-to-man defense come across the uh what is it that ATT Wireless Stone what do they call that the JMA Wireless Dome there there it is I'm a college football guy that's right I mean I mean Donnie at the end of the day right like bayheim retiring probably whatever he's doing
good for the program and also let's keep in mind Jim Boeheim when you see some of these press releases coming out when he started and when he began when he finished up looks like he was actually you know younger in his later days than when he was in 1978 but he was the institution 47 years here's the interesting part about it though like did they come then Ben do you think if it was like you know hey look you know you're winding down here a year or two go out in style here let's announce before
the season everybody will give you your flowers you could be under 500 ACC not make the tournament standing ovations every single night for a guy that was there 47 years to basically lose on a buzzer beater and then maybe the A.D met him in the hallway and goes that's it go have your press conference we're meeting right after this it does seem kind of unceremonious because even granted one championship in 47 years but getting to the tournament year after year one of those guys where you grow up
with and you watch on TV he deserved to have the right to go out his way but it looks like they probably tried to get him to do that Ben over the last couple years and he didn't want to do it and maybe this was the best way I think that's really the case DRS when I was a sophomore in college in 2014 at Syracuse Jim Boeheim at the end of that season announced the plan for his potential succession that in three years he was going to pass the torch to then assistant coach who had been with him for
a very long time Mike Hopkins who is now at Washington with the Huskies who got bounced from the Pac-12 tournament yesterday and then Jim decided nah I'm good see my son buddy his name is Jackson but we call him buddy he's actually good enough to play at the division one level so we're going to have him here at Syracuse I want to coach him so that is what Jim did for all four years that buddy bayheim was with the Syracuse Orange and then his older son who started at Cornell Jimmy transferred to
Syracuse last year and played with the orange so when you talk about ceremonious DRS and Kev last year would have been that ceremony go out with your kids you have built Syracuse basketball to the pantheon that had fans within college hoops all around the country and call it a career now I don't believe Jim Boeheim is of the personality to welcome a retirement tour there are two Titans of college basketball in the modern era and Jim Boeheim and Coach Mike who have now walked away from basketball
in the last two years they are the all-time leaders in wins Coach K with over 1200 Jim Boeheim 1116 do not listen to what the NCAA tells you about Jim's win total record but Donnie they had very different endings like you mentioned Coach K bringing his team to the final four sure they were beat by his most bitter rival in North Carolina but it was a send-off at the Ascension of the sport for Coach K where Jim had Syracuse struggling for two years bounced in their opening game of the ACC tournam
ent at the buzzer in the city he hates the most in Greensboro North Carolina for them to have him pretty much retire slash quit or get fired on a span of two hours yes unceremonious is a way to say it and then Kev quickly to your point I've been on these Airwaves multiple times saying sir Jim please retire sir please because he is Syracuse basketball he has been the head coach for nearly a half century 47 years for the seven years prior to that he was an assistant coach he also played at Syracus
e for four years as well he has spent 58 of his 78 years correlated and orchestrated and a part of Syracuse men's basketball so he is the program but instead of honoring his legacy over these final couple of years we have had to get mad at Jim Boeheim and question if he is actually working to the benefit of the future growth of Syracuse the relevance that he built is what he was actively working at taking away and so yes Kev I think a lot of people are happy now that it is done that regardless o
f how you decide that it happened yesterday or retirement or Jim hey man we gotta make this move he is no longer the head coach of Syracuse men's basketball and hopefully we can focus on honoring his legacy because he is one of the best college basketball coaches of all time a Basketball Hall of Famer inducted in 2005 and now you look forward to the future but Kev to your point I'm in a group chat with a ton of my college friends from Syracuse where we focus on Syracuse men's basketball not many
people are all that thrilled with Adrian Autry automatically being the hire because it was almost like he was named the interim head coach in all that confusion but it's not an interim title he's the head coach moving forward there wasn't a semblance of a search we didn't even hear Mike hopkins's name well what about Jerry McNamara no it was red Autry who has been with Jim bayheim since 2011 2012 season so exactly your guy Rick come on up to Central New York that was not the case a very weird d
ay for Syracuse we'll get Jim behind back on his feet over uh in the maroon and gold man we'll set him right running a little Zone if that if that's what we need to do look we got some games we got to get to here dear us I'm gonna go to you quickly uh Virginia UNC massive game for the Tar Heels seems like everyone agrees they need this basketball game tonight how do you see these two matching up what are we buying into it here North Carolina B to BC team that was a little bit down obviously but
North Carolina needs to pile up wins here to try to get into that final four should I say at the outside four looking in I don't know if they can get there but I'm going to bet against them tonight I'm going to Virginia slow the pace down you can't get up and down the pressure's on Carolina to win it's not on Virginia here I'll keep it simple right here I'm going to take Virginia to knock off UNC tonight all right Ben let me go to you on the Creighton Villanova game because I heard from a reliab
le source that you think Villanova can win this big East tournament here my my friends over at the Paul Farrington show uh told me this talk to me about Creighton and Villanova uh and if you think this is a good matchup for the Wildcats it's a very interesting game Kev because I do believe Villanova has to make a run much like DRS said for North Carolina at Madison Square Garden to win the Big East tournament to have a shot at the big dance I do not think this is the best matchup however for thi
s Wildcats team Creighton has one of the best starting fives in all of the countries certainly within the Big East conference Creighton is playing for seating in the NCAA tournament trying to ride that momentum they found in February that kind of got stunted at the end of last month early here in the month of March I don't think this is a great matchup for Villanova I think that four and a half point spread is pretty spot on obviously if I think Villanova can win the Big East tournament not ever
y portion of their draw in that bracket is going to be all that favorable so I'm going to ride with the Wildcats as the underdog but truly for this tournament for the NCAA tournament keep an eye on Creighton because I have two Futures that's three Futures bats currently Kevin active on the fan goals FanDuel Sportsbook Villanova to win the Big East Houston to reach the final four and the Creighton Blue Jays to win a National Championship so I'm pretty high on CU as well uh Donnie let me get it ov
er to you then the first game of the day is when I know you have your eye on that's Toledo in Miami of Ohio that's an 11 A.M tip uh in the Mac quarterfinal here what do you see with these two teams yeah Toledo really really gets after here but it is an early start 11 A.M how's it going to affect the kids you're playing the one thing I'm looking at here is I do think Toledo is going to win can they win by margin maybe so but I'm focused here in on Miami their team total Kevin is listed at a 70 an
d a half the two games that they played against Toledo this year 78 points and 71 points Toledo is going to set the pace here Toledo is going to score it's up to Miami to chase them I don't care if they win the basketball game or even stay close just score points I do think Miami of Ohio will be in the 70s enough to cash that team total win that is a huge total in that game Ben here's a game I'd love to get your thoughts on man uh because we have some uh I don't know if they count as alums you'l
l have to tell me uh watching here Kansas West Virginia uh the number three team in college basketball getting lined up what do you see here in this game let's save the slander for next Tuesday and the first four when I ultimately pick a team to cover is a three and a half Point favorite and they lose in a certain great producer here on the early line Brian Rutkowski is a little bit upset with me Kev I think KU is going to roll West Virginia today again no slander I think Kansas after the loss i
n Austin against Texas comes out to prove something in Kansas City it's going to be Allen field house a little bit east so I think Kansas rolls West Virginia that wasn't supposed to be slandered just a college basketball pick nope that's all good man that's exactly what I was hoping to get there Donnie will close it out with some listen up I'll see bye [Music] foreign ERS on that team but again you you know you had a new event the WBC is like hey you got to play in this so you had Darth Vader pl
aying I think you're seeing a lot more excitement you're seeing a lot more players uh star players really join in and I think when you look at this list you look at that top ten you're like oh that's fantastic and then you think about who's not in there you know Juan Soto's not in there Mookie Betts isn't in the top 10. newswire only on Sports grid the morning after there's the Super Bowl and then there's the 16th hole at the WM Phoenix Open let's go it's called The Coliseum hall for a reason it
's the best party in golf we had to get involved how would you describe the atmosphere at hole number 16. it's electric man it's electric oh electric it's electric electric electric are you kidding me come out been to the Masters been to the open been to the US Open this is the best show Hunter the sports grid Network nobody wants to see him nobody wants to see him play but it's like how do you build the lineup or how do you bet against this guy when he just is in the top three or wins in every
single tournament John ROM is absolutely going to thrive he's figured out that in some of these bigger events of the Mages look get yourself into the weekend and a lot of these guys will be taking themselves out of the tournament this week so look it's a big price tag but I think uh John Ramey's likely going to be in there fantasy sports today only on Sports grid Michigan State hiking at the line coach and Iowa State hitting nothing but threes the entire minute 10. it's shocking to see a team co
ached by Tom is of making these kind of mistakes down the stretch because to me Tom mizo is one of the best coaches of this generation in game live all access only on Sports grid your heart's racing the clock's running out it all comes down to this we're talking pregame pregame pregame get locked in with game time decisions your host Gabe Morenci and cam Stewart will get you ready for game time everything you need to know before a game goes off the board with the best lips to back it up make you
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59 getting after both myself and also Kevin Walsh 7-9 a.m powering through Ricardo today thank you so much and Ben Stevens also joining us on the program here to talk a little bit about Jim Boeheim which we'll do in a few moments but a lot of hot topics going around right now as we updated you it looks like it might be a formality sooner than later the Green Bay Packers moving on from Aaron Rodgers as it looks like he is probably going to be a jet also some other interesting stuff here Kevin Dur
ant looks like that ankle injury might keep him out the rest of the regular season and possibly some of the playoffs a lot to keep your eye on so making sure you keep it here on the sports grid Network Sirius XM channel 159 keep watching keep listening because the information is going to be flung let's talk college basketball a massive day today on a Thursday so much afternoon action and also shouldn't even say afternoon it gets started in two hours 11 A.M tip-off gear in the Mac comp reference
but let's talk coaches let's talk legendary coaches and players listen up foreign just had Ben on the program here talking about a little Syracuse action here in Jim bayheim who fired him did he get fired did he step down is he just retired we'll probably never know the exact wording on that but it is official he is out as head coach after 47 years at Syracuse never had that chance to go out like Coach K you know get your flowers standing ovations home Arenas away Arenas and make your media roun
ds so you sort of missed out on that but how about another institution here the Georgetown Hoyas Me growing up in the 1980s Coria paranoia under coach Thompson was Sensational Superstar player after Superstar player led by Patrick Ewing which we transform in today's day and age Patrick Ewing takes the job as the head coach at Georgetown now also he has not been fired yet but my goodness what happened to Georgetown 7-25 this this year a disaster last year 2 and 18 in Big East play this team used
to be a Powerhouse we'd love to see that be restored the last few losses for them by 20 to province since by 40 to Creighton and by 32 to Villanova looks like he might be out at Georgetown as well sooner than later stay tuned for Ben Stevens in the morning after coming up next right here on the grid [Music] foreign [Music]

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