hello hello hello happy holidays to everybody this
is another episode of Allin society and friends I am cp2 and today we have a special special guest
we have Bailey Jackson and her Instagram is Bailey Jackson Sports I know Bailey I've also seen your
content on I think you have a Tik Tok you have a Twitter you have you're across the board all over
the place threads right yes yes yes yes okay and Bailey the reason or reason why I invited her on
the show what really caught my attention is that
I saw her on I believe uh it was on threads and
she had the opportunity to go the NBA End season inaugural Championship which I was I told her pre
uh pregame that I was super jealous she had the opportunity to go to this game I definitely
won a chance to go to Las Vegas but she had the opportunity to go so I reached out to her I
wanted to pick her brain and her experience there and also she does an absolutely excellent job at
breaking down our favorite players not necessarily their stats a
nd everything that's going on on
the court or on the field but she's taking us behind the scenes and some of the things that go
on off the court and really changing the narrative and really Enga uh creating conversations that
are very engaging on social media uh you have thousands of views I see a lot of the videos
that you're making a lot of uh individuals are engaging back and forth I saw something on
threads where you uh I can't remember what the topic was but you said respond with an em
oji
and I just went through that and it was awesome it had me laughing out loud some of the uh uh the
gifts and some of the Emojis and things like that that some of the some of your follows were using
uh but I want you to take it from here tell us a little bit more about yourself and tell us about
Bailey Jackson Sports yes so one I appreciate the introduction and thank you for having me on um
bayy Jackson in sports is only about a year old so I graduated from Indiana University last year
u
m with a marketing degree and I had a little bit of Sports Experience uh or just like experience
working in the sports industry um while I was at IU um but not enough to the point where I was
like okay I can find a full-time job you know with my background um and a full-time job that I
I really wanted you know in more of a reporting hosting role right um so I ultimately took um the
corporate route and said you know well if I'm not going to do Sports full-time I'm at least going to
you know
figure out how to do it part-time and I had an existing Instagram account and an existing
Tik Tok account and I was like okay this is you know I'm gonna convert this to my sports platform
right came up with the name Bailey Jackson Sports super simple super easy just you know my first
last name in sports you know like just just make it as you know easy as possible for people to
understand like what I'm talking about um and just started posting videos and it wasn't super
consistent at first u
m you know it's like maybe one every couple days and then you know started
to see a little bit more traffic from it and I think around like this time last year maybe a
little bit earlier around like November October November 2022 I had a story really blow up
and I was like okay it's like I think I can make something of this and I really put time and
effort into being consistent and really crafting how I you know talked about certain topics and
also pinpointing you know what matter to me and
What mattered to my audience too um and from there
it's grown into what it is and I'm fortunate to have you know almost 20,000 followers on Instagram
a little over 30k on Tik Tok um you know growing platform on Facebook on threads uh you Twitter
as well so um you know just seeing where the the you know opportunities go from here working with
Brands like you said and was out in Vegas had the opportunity to you know travel a little bit do
some brand trips so um yeah Ian it's really just the
start like I said just you know a little over
a year into bayy Jackson Sports so I'm excited to see where you know things can head in the next
you know in 2024 you know years to come so do you remember what uh social media platform it was
on and do you remember what the first video or the topic was yeah so uh the I posted the same video
on Instagram and Tik Tok and I believe it was about like nil deals um there was a conversation
I I love um uninterrupted the shop with you know LeBron and M
averick and you know they bring in you
know the the various individuals to the show and there was an episode it was an older one maybe
like season one season two and mo bomba said something about um in his pre-draft process the
teams were saying that he had too many eclectic interests right and I thought that was interesting
especially last year you know as we kind of got deeper into nil was still you know kind of in
maybe like phase one phase two right and and you start seeing these athlet
es like I think the
one I talked about was um bejn Robinson and His mustard deal okay um I was like you can categorize
that as an Eclectic interest right and I think nil just in general allows a athletes to capitalize
on their you know their various interests so in my head I was like okay well you know how did
these two topics correlate is like will we see um you know this the conversation change at a
professional level because you know things are changing at a Collegiate level it my video
was not
worded that well it was worded a lot differently I was like I said very new like not really full you
know formulating my thoughts into um you know the video like I wanted to but it was basically along
those lines um and that was the the conversation so I think it like that that first video got
more views than I expected it was like maybe 8,000 which was like really good for where I was
at um I was like had maybe like 100 followers at that point probably even less so I was like oh my
gosh like he 8,000 followers for you know a page with a 100 you know or 8,000 views with a page
for 100 followers I was like okay yeah like I like let's see where this can go right so that was
I'm glad that it got that type of exposure because I think if it would have like just failed off a B
I probably wouldn't have like been as inclined to be like okay like let's see you know let's put
some more time into this but yeah that was the initial topic so so I everyone always says this
do you
do it catch you off guard what videos blow up and the videos where you feels like like you
vote all of this you write everything down you have everything perfect in your vision and it's
like well why is this one getting so much traction right like where are the views yeah um there are
some that I like know I'm like man this story is absolutely wild like this is gonna go crazy like
there's one that I did recently at um posted it two days ago was about uh chance Comanche the
NBA g-league um p
layer for the Stockton kings that ultimately um confessed to a murder case was
like I knew when I was recording I was like yeah this is going to go crazy like this is such a wild
story um but then there are some where I'm like oh my God like this is such a good take like I have
such a you know like a good take on you know this this story it's like I think people are really
going to resonate with it and then it's like no one no one comments no engagement like like views
are kind of on the lo
wer end I'm like all right so I was like was it a bad take or was it just like
was it something else was it the delivery was it the time I posted it was it like the visuals like
what wasn't so yeah there there's times where it's like okay like yeah like I can expect something to
go crazy and then there are times where it's like that should have gone like that should have done
way better like oh and then there are times was like man I didn't expect this to blow up like I'm
glad people are re
ally resonating with this too so it it kind of varies right so without spilling
your secrets how do you how are you because it's I haven't heard any of these stories I'm going
to your pages to to learn new information that haven't seen on so how are you pulling where
are you getting the information from yeah so I Source from a a variety of different places
um and platforms so I mean I try to talk about things that you wouldn't see on traditional you
know media um Network or Sports media net
works so like you trying to hit on stories that ESPN
may not cover or um you know you're not going to see it on a bleacher report or you know whatever
it may be right um with that being said sometimes I do you know get inspiration from Pages like
bleacher repor or complex or overtime or whoever it's like sometimes it's looking at Twitter um um
or X you know threads or you know threads itself and you know seeing what people are talking
about on there it's it's a lot of just kind of little so
cial listening here and there staying
up to dat you know with what's on TV as well um sometimes I'll have people send me stuff that's
been like a um a helpful you know tool recently is you know people will DM me it's like hey did
you see this or like they'll text me and be like hey I saw this story like you should talk about
it um so it's a combination of a lot of different lot of different resources that's awesome and so
you you juggle a full-time job and you do this as well so is it you w
ork your full-time job
and then you come home and you're just diving right deep into sports pretty much so I do have
the flexibility to work work from home part of the week and then I go into our headquarters um
two days out of the week so when I'm home I will I me fully committed to my job being know nin to5
I'll have ESPN on the background so I can kind of hear some of the conversations that are going on
and get the inspiration throughout the day so by the time it's like five o'clock I lo
g off and you
know switch over to sports mode and it's like I have an idea of what I want to talk about um but
yeah it's a it's a really fine balance between you making sure that um you know my full-time
job all the responsibilities and you know um deliverables that are are needed from me on that
end are knocked out you know during working hours and then you know I come home and just you know
kind of grind it out on the sports side of things okay all right so I want to just in case anyone
didn't hasn't seen your page yet one thing I did want to point out was the Zach Wilson story so can
you elaborate a little bit on that yeah so Zach Wilson it was Sunday's I think they played Sunday
yeah Sunday's game against um now I'm spacing on who they played though um I'm trying say yeah
Sunday's game who did I don't even remember who hit him Sunday's game we'll just leave it at
Sunday's game um and he took a few nasty hits um they ultimately pulled him out the game um and he
was on the
sideline reportedly telling coaches and you know team medical staff hey I'm fine even
though he was displaying concussion symptoms um that wasn't revealed till after the game when
his mom went on Instagram and gave everybody an update on his condition saying hey like Zach's
doing better um thank you for your concern um you know he really wanted to you know fight and
stay in for you know his guys um he even you know exactly what I said a second ago like he even was
displaying these concussi
on symptoms but didn't reveal it to his coaches and he he really just
wanted to go in and play but you know at the end of the day he realized you know it may be more
detrimental to the team so you know I'm going to you know kind of come out the game right um so
you know eventually made the right decision but you know also didn't make the right decision
you know had some had some important details from his team um so anyways his mom coming on
social media and sharing that information was I t
hink more of a shock than anything is like okay
Mom you're kind of snitching right now right you know was like you're you're getting me in trouble
and I don't know if I don't think much has really come from her video you know like I don't think
the NFL has launched an investigation but it was initially thought it's like okay well you know
she's revealing some details that are you know pretty important it's like could this result and
Zach Wilson being fed could this result in the Jets being
fined how much did the you know Jets
organization know about Zach display concussion symptoms did they do anything about it did they
you know just go you know along with it you know what was the situation right so that was pretty
much story line surrounding that like I said I haven't seen any update updates to confirm
that the NFL is investigating or not I don't think there there's any issue between Zach's mom
and the team or Zach and his mom but um but yeah that's the story right that was
I thought it was
interesting story I showed my father your uh your clip and his take was more so that that he thinks
the team is liable regardless of what Zach did the team they have doctors there they're that is their
job to make sure he does not go back on the field so right you I think you hit on this a little bit
so were they were they aware of this and they just kind of look past it because he said he was fine
or in the grand scheme of things I don't even think they're even in playoff
contention so Aaron
Rogers isn't coming well he's you hear reports he might potentially come back so maybe he's scared
that know if I hang up the you know if I if I sit out I'm not going to play again if Aaron comes
back in so I guess there's a lot ofes and Dynamics uh that he's dealing with but most importantly
that if you're concuss you should not be back on the field no absolutely not and I think that's
the the important part of the conversation too is you know players Health especially
when it comes
to head injuries is is and should be prioritized I think the league is doing a better job at that you
know nowadays so it's like in you know in those events it's like you want to make sure that you're
not only doing what's best for the team but it's doing you know what's best for you at the end of
the day you see too many players nowadays that are you know retired or you know entering into that
retirement phase that are you know coming out with you CTE or just you know other t
ype of you know
head injuries head trauma um it say you know it's nothing to play about your brain is a a precious
you know organ and you don't want to mess that up right it's a very dangerous sport they get paid
very well but it is a a dangerous sport I know they've been talking about those new helmets
where they have the different design and they might potentially use those they've been using
them in practice and I think I saw a report that they are significantly uh reducing you know head
injuries or concussions uh during training camps and things like that so something to look forward
to I guess as far as players right right all right well we are we were talking about football but
I want to dive into Bailey a little bit more so let's go back to high school and you mentioned
golf so can you tell us about your golf experience yeah yeah so I played just about everything that
you could ever think of growing up as a kid but ultimately landed on golf um and started taking
it se
riously when I was about like 12 13 years old um took lessons was playing competitively in
the Indianapolis area just in kind of like Junior leagues right um by the time I entered high school
I had gotten to the point where I was good enough to you know be on our varsity team play the number
one spot um and I I held that number one spot and played on Varsity for all four years in high High
School um loved the sport um you know was doing well and had the opportunity to play collegiately
ulti
mately decided that you know wanted to really focus on the academic side of uh you know college
and you let that be my main focus but um you know still still play to this day golf has been a huge
part of my life for about you know 10 years now um and I you know love talking about it too it's
also you know part of my content that I hope to um incorporate more in you know the future going
into 2024 is you know really hitting on golf hitting on um you know the benefits of the sport
um you know
the diversity in the sport which I feel like we don't see too much of um and also
you know at the end of the day also making you know the people that talk about the sport more
diverse too that's a mission of mine is you know there there are people that look like you know us
out there that are playing and that are good and um you know that can talk about it that know you
know know what they're what they're doing um when it comes to talking about the sports so yeah golf
is golf is a huge hug
e part of my life I love it love talking about it love playing it so um yeah
I'm glad I I had the opportunity to start from a young age what's your take on the live golf in
the PGA I'm not sure if they're merging or what's going on right now what's your take on that yeah
so it was announced um like over the summer that they would be merging I know that the details of
it are still can being figured out right now but um I think that I I let me take a step back I had
the opportunity to go to a
live golf tournament U back in September there was one in Chicago um so
I wanted to see you know what it was about right because you know initially I was like you know I
love the tradition of the PGA you know I love the players that are in the league and um you know
I think that that that shouldn't be disruptive but then I saw was like but what you know Liv
was doing and you know had the opportunity to really experience that and also see from you
know a golfers perspective kind of talking
to them a little bit more about what they liked
about the the league and what they didn't and um it's def it's the future of golf we'll just
put it that way and I think for a sport that has such a older audience this is a way for younger
people to get involved with it being kind of more of a fun kind of partyish culture right but at
the same time you're still carrying out out the tradition of golf you're still carrying out the
you know this respectfulness of the sport too um so it's a healt
hy combination of both and it I
think it definitely is intriguing new you know fans to come in and enjoy um and the sport that
people have loved for you know hundreds of years now right right is that uh you hit on it it's
it's almost like a culture change because I you think of you know golf you think it's very ritzy
and to have a lot of young people and having more you know that's a very big difference so uh it'll
be interesting to see how uh the game evolves but at the end of the day they
end of the day they
want more viewers and I think this is the the right approach to go that way definitely yeah I
I think it's G to take some time for PGA guys to kind of adapt to the the new environment and you
know fully get on board and buy into it I I don't see it being an easy merger you know by any means
but um you in the next maybe 10 to 20 years I I definitely see it being a thriving uh you know
combination of live PGA you know whatever the new name is or if you know there is a new
name
so yeah I'm excited to see it do you still have an opportunity to go out and hit the course yeah
every once in a while I I mean I live in Chicago so it's cold here about I don't know a quarter if
not more of the year so um you know it's kind of hard to play in certain months but uh anytime it's
warm out and I have some free time I I try to get out on the course okay was your your short game
or your long game your uh the best part of your game um you know I can hold my own around the
green but I definitely was better you know off the tea in the Fairway so short game I feel like
is never anybody's strength I think you can ask ask any golfer if they're saying short games their
strength they're probably lion te okay all right I don't know short games short game that's where
the majority of your point or your Strokes come in right it's I think 60% of your scores putts or
short game I don't know the statistic exactly but um you most most people struggle around the green
so l
ike I said if anyone's telling you oh I'm amaz I'm amazing chipper I'm amazing putter I was like
are you really like that are that's the only thing they concentrate on and they can't hit the ball
50 yards off the T right here yeah maybe maybe who who knows but yeah I definitely definitely
better um better off a team better better in the fair way so okay and so I guess pivot a little
bit you're clearly passionate about sports um so what are your what are your ultimate goals with
with biley s
ports and then you mention can you hit on you work with whistle Sports as well can you
talk about that as well yeah so ultimate goals for my platform I think it right now it's it's
growth and monetization um I'm at the point now where it's like okay I'm hitting metrics that
I've hitting metrics and goals that I set for myself you know at the um beginning of 2023 now
I'm you know having the opportunity to get paid for my content via Partnerships like whistle or
NFL and zone or FanDuel um or
you know via brand trips you know stuff like that or you know just
various camp pains here and there um so you know continuing to like set Higher Goals for myself
you know hit higher metrics um and then you know at the end of the day the goal for me is as much
as I love my full-time job um and working you know in social media on a corporate Side sports is my
passion and I know one day I'll be able to cross over and you know take this um the my my sports
you know work seriously in a fulltime
um so you know that's that's the ultimate goal for me is
like in what way or you know form or fashion does that look I don't know it could be you know still
on social media it could be in a more traditional role like you see you know Malik Andrews or Maria
Taylor or Taylor Rooks doing um and I know I think that's definitely in the future for me um what
that looks like I don't know you know with the right opportunity comes it comes and you know I'll
be uh exploring my options you know when
when it makes the most sense for me but um yeah that's
that's kind of the the future right now that's you know what I have in store so it's just a matter
of uh of time know honestly right so as far as the the Partnerships with FanDuel did they reach out
to you or did you reach out to them yeah so they reached out to me which was a blessing because
I had them on the list of brands that I really wanted to work with um and it was a conversation
it started over email they found my content um an
d they thought that they I'd be a good fit
for um you know what they're doing with their other creators and you know what they're doing on
their platforms um so yeah it was a a conversation of about a month of exchanging emails back and
forth and you got the contract signed and um I've entered a year deal with them to do sports betting
content but also um you know do the story lines that you see on my platform for their platform
as well so and for the sports betting are do you dabble yourse
lf every once in a while or are you
just going to be doing the reporting um so I'm uh by no means am I great Sports better um I and I I
think I messed up like when I initially started I entered the like sports betting world around March
Madness which everybody says is like the absolute worst time to like bet on sports um I just because
of like all the like there's no certainty with March Madness games obviously but like on top
of that I think I don't I don't know there just it's not like a
I don't know like the like real
statistical reasoning behind it but like it just doesn't I guess make sense too but anyways that's
what I was told um so yeah I was like oh let me put like a parlay on like multiple games you know
like like sweet 16 like Elite 8 of course like lost money um all right not going to do this again
and then that was pre FanDuel though and it's like once FanDuel came around I was like okay like if
I'm working with FanDuel I should use FanDuel and I should like unde
rstand how sports betting works
so I've like got into it more and more have I hit big absolutely not do I really know what I'm
doing probably not but I have a better idea of like how everything works but I'm I'm not like
a a Sports better but um I can you know explain a few things here and there you know what I mean so
yeah that's always good you don't have to partake in betting Sports in order to to work alongside
them in that partnership almost right encourage you not to bet Sports to be
quite honest yeah yeah
I mean I I as long as you know what you're doing and you're confident in decisions you're making
then I say go for it but if you're just you know if you're a newbie and you're throwing crazy
money out there then I'd probably advise you to do your research before you you know get on
a platform like FanDuel and and start you know betting but right right now we all have you know
your fantasy football leagues and things like that where you draft with your friends and fami
ly and
things like and you know no scenarios but other than that this is me speaking from experience
you it is so difficult to beat these guys on a consistent basis but I do think that you mentioned
the March Madness I think that's kind of the The Bookies that's when they set the lines they don't
have a lot of information a lot of these college players because they haven't been playing for
that long they haven't been watching them that long opposed if you bet on an NFL NBA game they
have s
o much data on these players so it's so difficult to beat them in those lines um but I
don't want to get into that conversation this is not that conversation lead anybody down that
that dark alley of sports betting uh but let's uh go back to what is your favorite sport to watch
and your favorite sport to cover favorite sport to watch is definitely basketball and favorite
sport to cover is football okay and why and why um I think with the amount of people in on a
football team or you know in
the league or even at a Collegiate level you have so many opportunities
to cover unique and diverse storylines whereas um you know basketball is just smaller teams smaller
league right so it's just the opportunity to which I mean there are stories there don't get me wrong
like there are definitely stories out there that you know are uncovered Untold um but you have
there's just greater opportunity to you know really know find a story within um within football
um to why like why I like watc
hing basketball um one I just think it's it's like the entertaining
in person yes um that's like the biggest thing for me is like the entertainment factor in person
and that experience of going into Arena and uh you know watching the game that's always been a
little bit more exciting to me than like going and you know watching any other sporting person
um I think the atmosphere of you know a basketball game day is you know unlike you know any other
you could say the same for football like I
don't think there's a right or wrong answer to this but
just personally you know what I like the best um and even watching it on TV like I feel like I'm
more locked in watching a basketball game I am watching a football game on TV you know at home so
um that's you know that's my reason like I said I don't think there's any right or wrong answer
don't get me wrong I do love watching football and going to football games too I just prefer
basketball a little bit more when it comes to you know
that yeah as far as reporting wise I
think the football stories resonate more with me because they always have their helmet on and
so when you're reporting and telling about their story I'm getting to know them a little bit more
I just feel like the basketball players are number one there's 82 games plus the playoffs and so we
see them so often and we get to kind of know who they are as far as football we're really limited
amount of time we get to know who they are off the field during the
field why they make the decisions
or you know do the things they do on the field so just for me personally I love the your football
content because I I get to know the players a little bit more yeah that's true I mean when you
uh you know bring up the length of the season and their schedule and you know how frequently you
see them and it's like there's names that you probably never hear throughout a season but
they're you know making a huge impact off the field or you know they're doing so
me crazy stuff
you know outside of their team or you outside of the sport or whatever and it's like oh man like
I didn't even know so and so you know existed and it's like because you only see them for a certain
portion of the year it's like or you know maybe they don't get a whole lot of playing time or
you know they're like you know fourth string whatever and so um yeah there's there's a lot of
opportunity to You Know cover the NFL and I think just the uniqueness of the stories is just gr
eater
because of the reasons that you know we mentioned so yeah and any sport your favorite team oh um
favorite team um well being from Indianapolis have to say Pacers for you know NBA um and the
Colts for the NFL uh for college football though it's Ohio State I grew up a huge Ohio State
fan I'm not from Ohio but my dad and his side of the family are so um I was instilled the uh the
Buckeye Pride from a young age so uh I I also have to give some credit to my hooers I went to Indiana
Univer
sity so so you know go go hooers on the you know the basketball side of things football not
so much I will never be rooting for IU when it comes to football but uh but yeah IU basketball I
love following them so yeah well don't tell your father I'm from Michigan as you can see I got the
Detroit Lions hat on yeah we don't talk about the team up north well you don't care about these guys
you don't that's that's yeah I don't have any beef with the Lions yeah it's it's just even Michigan
state
they're cool like I don't have any problem with any other Michigan like school or team the
team up north we don't talk about him that's a no no all right well I'll make you talk about him a
little bit so tell me about the the last game what was your take from the last game with Ohio State
in Michigan um I mean if I'm GNA be completely honest Michigan is a better team this year um and
I didn't expect Ohio State to win um I think that Ohio State needed to do a better job at passing
the ball w
hich is just hasn't been their strength like at all this season I don't think Kyle cord
really fit well into Ohio State scheme and as you saw he you know they would run the ball majority
of the time um you when there were those moments where he would P you know there would be pass
plays Marvin Harrison Jr did his you know thing and um I think he was great for OSU I think he'll
be great in the league you know next year if I think he declar it if he hasn't already declared
I'm sure he you kno
w was likely to um but yeah I I mean like I said that the expectations for that
specific game were kind of low just given where OSI was at this season um and just you know the
various pieces that they were working with um on the team um and yeah and Michigan Michigan was
just a stronger program unfortunately um this season but you know maybe next year we'll get
them so you know there there's always hope but do you think the coach is going to be there next
season yes I I don't I don't think
Ohio state has any intentions of firing Ryan day before the start
of the 2024 2025 season okay um will his job be up in the air like you will will next season depend
on if we see him you know in the future absolutely I think like this is definitely going to be a
test of if they keep him or not yeah um but I don't I don't expect him to get fired you know
before the start of by any means okay yeah all right so let's move on to a little bit of a it's
a deep deep topic uh kind of uncomfortable
topic can be at sometimes uh but can you talk about
your experience not only as a woman in sports but a black woman in sports and some of the things
you might have to deal with as far as people in your DMs or the comments that might uh hit your
hit your feed or hit your thread yeah um I mean people will de with me some crazy stuff sometimes
it could be just like I mean it couldn't some some of the stuff I get in my DMs isn't even about
my work necessarily it's like sometimes it will be just
about like who I am or like what people
think of me or whatever which I don't even really pay attention to stuff half the time it was like
things are going to my requests and I'm not seeing them so it's like if you're dming me something
crazy just know I'm like not even really probably gonna see it in the first place um but I do pay
attention to the comment section sometimes and I think that um more than anything it's not so much
about being a black woman in sports I haven't you know fortu
nately experience anything you know
race related um but more you know less more or less me being a woman in sports you know it's the
the sexist side of things that um I've encountered I've gotten comments on my post saying you know
this is why men should be talking about sports women have no business you know speaking on the
subject people have gone as far to say as like just go back and you know go back to the kitchen
like get in the kitchen and like just do your job and you know shut up b
asically yeah um and I mean
it's kind of like to be expected honestly I this is nothing new women that before me that are you
know in hosting roles or sine reporting roles or you know um you know doing sports content as well
or getting some of the same comments I don't think it's a matter of you know what you look like it's
more or less like just being being a woman in the industry um and it sucks but at the same time
it's like there there was a point where I had to determin if I was going
to let those comments
affect me or if I was going to brush it off and move on and I grew confident in myself and my work
and I know after a while is like seeing stuff like that doesn't affect me as much I'm not going
to say I'm not like phased by it like yeah some things that people say are like just vile and
evil and nasty and like it gets to me at times but um the frequency at which it does like it is
significantly less now that you know I'm where I'm at um and like I said as confident as
I am in
my work so um you know like I said unfortunately it's just something that's a part of being in
the industry and um you know I think for you know women to come that you know want to enter
the the industry as well and report on Sports it's just something that is going to be a part
of the job unfortunately and it's just you know a matter of how you kind of battle through that
adversity right right unfortunately it's a cruel world we live in but I guess the bright side of
things at le
ast they're saying something because if they just ignore you that's even more like well
I'm putting out great content no one cares one way or the other and be quite honest with those
negative comments negativity usually spreads better than positivity so it might be helping you
in the long run you just kind of have to you know internalize it unfortunately and just deal with it
right well and that's what I've said before too is like I I very rarely do I respond to comments but
you there have
been times where I'm like you know I don't know there's one specific person and this
is such a weird situation to me because I follow my page but it's like I have them restricted so
like their their comments can't be seen by anyone else besides me and I like I have to review it in
order for it to be posted and every single time I do any type of like take that they don't like
they'll comment like just something about like you talk about blah blah blah blah blah blah and
they'll like try to D
M me and all of a I'm like you follow me just to be so negative right but
it's like little do you know that your engagement on my page and you following me is helping me yes
it's like it's it's like you hate me so much but yet you're helping me it's like do you understand
like how that's just like a like just it doesn't make sense you know it's like make it make sense
yeah it's like if you really wanted to hurt Me by any means like hurt my content or my performance
and like stop following m
e and stop commenting yes yes it's kind of like it's probably like
these guys in the poker room they don't know how to talk to women and maybe that's the way for
you he doesn't think that you will ever give him the time of day so this is the only way well if
I do this that she'll get my attention or she'll respond back to me or something like that I don't
know maybe I don't know that's a twisted way of thinking like if that's their mindset that's a
twisted way of going about it but I don't
know like at the end of the day too it's like I look
at those comments and in my head immediately go to like these people have nothing better to do
than be negative behind his screen to a person that they don't even know like that's just their
problem that they have to deal with too like it's that that's not my business you know what I mean
so um yeah just there's always going to be those internet trolls and those internet haters and
like it's just it is what it is situation you know it's l
ike there's not much you can do about
it aside from control you can control and be you know positive and Contin pushing through it right
that's great you are you said you're only 23 but you sometime I meet uh I'm 35 so sometimes I'll
meet people that are younger than myself and it's like that's some things that you say it's like
you've been here before or number one I asked you before you must you you have a really strong
support group and you have a family that's really raised a great youn
g woman and so I think that
that's awesome this is It's refreshing to see because I do run to a lot of younger folks and
it's just like oh boy yeah yeah I appreciate that and I definitely give credit to my parents
they did you know a great job of raising me and um you know they're they're great people my
mom and you know my daad um I feel like the reason who I am you know who I am today is and
um you know I definitely credit them for how I go about caring myself and you know just living
my
life and um yeah so Props to them on that one yeah that's great do you have any are you only
child I am okay yeah I am an only child do I come off as an only child no no no no I was
I was curious because you didn't me mention a brother or sister so I was like well let me
ask her because I was thinking well maybe you have an older sister who's maybe been through all
this or older brother's been through all this and so you kind of seen it shown you how to deal
with it but you're just a stron
g strong woman yeah it's just me yep it's it's always been
me so uh yeah I like to ask because I feel like people sometimes guess I have siblings some
people automatically assume I'm an only child so I was curious I'm only child myself and I'm just
very selfish person so hopefully you don't have that yeah hey sometimes it comes out and that's
okay all right well let's bring it to something a little bit more lighthearted well not it's
lighthearted for you not for me because I'm still jealous
thinking about this that you had the
opportunity to go the NBA n Season championship game so tell us about that yeah so this was such
a cool opportunity um I mean it was a first for a lot of reasons it was the first NBA and season
tournament um it was my first time in Vegas um it was my first brand trip and it was my first time
working with meta um so it was a like a crazy basically like two weeks like a week of planning
and then like the week of the trip right and um they' re there was a
rep that found my content
organically he reached out to me and he was like Hey like let's figure out some ways to get you to
some events and I was like okay cool like let's set up some time to chat um and he had mentioned
that you know they're really trying to promote threads um and later that day it was either like
that day or like the day after he said you know hey I see you work with whistle uh because it's
in my bio on my Instagram he's like I see you work with whistle um you know conve
niently like meta
and whistle are partnering for you know the the tournament uh again push threads um would you
want to come out to Vegas would you be able to come out to Vegas next week I'm like okay you know
like let me make sure everything you know in the full-time job like everything is covered on that
end you know it's like do I need to take time off like is everything I need to do like done for the
week I was like once all those boxes were checked and I was like got the green light I
was like all
right it looks like we're going to Vegas um and it was such a dope experience there was about like
20 or more creators that they brought out there they had us in two separate Suites so we were
um able to like get to know each other like all the people and there's like I said two separate
sweets all the people in my Suite like I got to know like really really closely um but still got
to interact with some of the other creators in um their other suite and they had us in there
fo
r um the semi-final so we got to watch the Pacers bucks and then the Pelicans Lakers on
Thursday and then we also got to watch Lakers and Pacers on Saturday um and then there was some
really cool events on Friday as well so there was a lunch with um boardroom and threads that took
place on Friday so it was like some really cool networking opportunities um had the chance to
make meet AEL Wilson Miles Turner was there um some of the other Aces were there um Shams from
the athletic he he was t
here Rich Paul showed up um had a chance to talk with um Adam um misseri
who's the head of Instagram so it's like really cool networking opportunities and like really
cool like dope people in the room um talking with agents other creators it's like just people
like it's like a true industry event um and it's like experience like that is so invaluable and
especially being young and new to the sports industry is like having those moments to just
like connect with people I was like that that w
as honestly my favorite part of the trip like
yeah like the basketball part was cool but it was like the networking part was my favorite
part yeah awesome hitting on networking and I don't want take away from this uh have you
heard or have you been to invest Fest I have not no okay uh so you know anything about it no
not this is the first time hearing of it okay so the past two years I think they done it three
years total but I went the past two years it's in Atlanta the last week of August
I believe it
was I'm not sure you've heard of Troy and Rashad from earn your leisure it's so they're it's all
about financial literacy uh but Prett much it's specifically trying to get black and brown people
into you know investing themselves in uh stocks bonds crypto uh real estate just really helping
our community in financial literacy and because we don't talk about money or at least in my
family it is not something we grew up talking about a consistent basis as I've gotten older we
ha
ving these conversations which is which is great but just in our community and and not just our
community we don't talk about things like this but we need to talk about about them especially
like wills and trust and things like that that other communities are doing in order to pass their
wealth On to the Next Generation well we're not doing these things and so they do a great job of
that U but this year specifically they had like Cam Newton was there um McCollum was there a lot
of the ball
football players basketball players were there as panels and it's a great place to
network there was 20,000 people that looked like you and I for for a whole weekend so it it's it's
amazing uh but as it gets bigger I I prefer the smaller intimate environments because you can
really Network you know have more impactful conversations opposed to being some place where
there's 20,000 people there it's very hard um because every for that person uh but something
think about next year if they if t
hey do do it next year for sure yeah know that sounds like I
a great opportunity and I know if you're familiar with black sports business Symposium that's
another good one I went to that back in April it's in Atlanta um and this will be I think their
third year the I don't think they've released a date for it for 2024 but um very similar setup
from what it sounds like you know you're telling me where it's like you know they have people on
panels they like Maria Taylor Rich Paul spoke at it
Don Staley Brandon Marshall came um and they
just had various like panels throughout the day you can kind of pick and choose what you wanted to
go to which was also cool is like you're tailoring your you know your experience to you know what's
going on and it was hosted at the Falcons arena so okay um huge um huge setup it was free too
you just had to you know apply yeah just apply to um you know be invited basically um and you
mean you have to cover airfare hotel all of that but there's no
cost to attend but um yeah another
great one so I'll look I'll look into that one you you look into black sports business both sound
yeah like really awesome events okay yeah yep absolutely thank you I appreciate it yeah for sure
all right so to close out we're gonna get into my world a little bit yeah what is your experience
in poker uh zero okay all right so not on the uh I'm not trying to get you to to play poker or
anything like that but uh are you familiar with princess love I saw I k
now what you're talking
about yes yes yeah I saw what you're talking what you mentioned yeah yeah so I just want to kind of
put your on your radar because I I truly believe that there's going to be another poker boom and
I think the next poker boom that will take place it will be women uh they'll hit the felt and then
they start taking money from men uh right now the reason why women don't feel comfortable is because
men are just nasty and disgusting people and they cannot their psyche cann
ot take what coming
in and taking their money um it's very Macho um environment but I think as time goes on the
organizers and the casinos are getting better at protecting women Um poker Community is it's pretty
gross um and I'm not trying this is terrible stories to tell to try to get you to get into the
poker community and cover the poker Community but like you hear stories in California dealers used
to get spit on the dealers were peed on yes so that's say poker players are the nastiest
people
in the world but there's also some great people in the poker Community as well because when you
think about it poker is a worldwide game and it's very easy to learn the game it just takes a
lifetime to master the game and like I said I'm not trying to get anybody to necessarily play
poker but just learning the game and there's a casino all over the place you will be so surprised
the conversations and the networking opportunities you can have at a poker table and also most
importantl
y was for the content so uh two uh organizers it's World Poker Tour where princess
love she played there at the win and then the World Series of Poker in the summer they'll have
a in uh at Caesar's property I don't know if you had a chance to go to Caesar's Horseshoe Casino
no I didn't okay um but they have it it's on the Strip used to be at the Reel Off the Strip now
it's on the Strip so now it's a little bit more mainstream uh more people are just kind of walk
off the street well what is
this going on here I don't know anything about poker but I would love
to try just because the it's an awesome experience um so just something it's we kind of talked poker
is a sport they don't want to label it as a sport but it's definitely a sport but just something to
consider if you want to do some content that's not necessarily what most uh Sports reporters would
cover I think you'll definitely poker Community is Niche and small but if you uh if you can find some
some stories and maybe
interview a person or two think you'll be surprised with the uh the response
that you get from the poker Community yeah no I mean I'm definitely interested in learning more
talk about princess love it's like you're seeing stories pop up and you know and your you know
time line and on mainstream platforms right I know like I think I don't remember who I saw cover
it but I'm pretty sure it's you know it's heading on pretty you know major pages right so um you
know people are definitely intere
sted and know people are wanting to talk about it too so I'm
one of those that are my interest so you know I'll definitely be looking up for you know more topics
um you know related to the poker world and just you know what that looks like how it feels you
know and what the you know the potential could be too it's like it's everything everything will see
I'm not gonna say everything it will likely see you know some more growth and some more attention
in the future so um you know the coverag
e will come with it for sure right and I'm sure you
heard that pickle ball is a huge thing right now too oh yeah ah yeah that it's funny because
when I got to Vegas I was like in my Uber on the way to the hotel and my Uber driver is like yeah
I'm in a pickle ball league he's like it's huge out here in Vegas I'm like I didn't know that like
that's cool and I know pickle ball is growing for sure it's like everybody's investing in it you
have so many athletes that are like getting into pickle
ball leagues um you know right now and
I I know in Chicago like you know when it gets warmer people are you know out playing I know it's
been to the point where like on the news they're complaining about the pickle ball noise and the
courts and like it's yeah it seems crazy like the the way that it's just skyrocketed and like
kind of become a viral sensation so I'm excited to see where that go too absolutely absolutely
uh but yeah I I truly appreciate this I you're definitely a very very ve
ry busy person so I
appreciate you taking the time to to sit with me and do this interview hopefully we'll be able
to do it again in the future I would love to have you on the the live show on Tuesdays if you can
ever uh find time to that just jump in rather jump in in the chat just come in say hi for a
second and then and then dip out I would love to have you on the show so again I appreciate you
taking time yeah well thank you for having me I appreciate it as well absolutely I will defini
tely
be pumping your content telling everybody to check it out I've told my my parents I'll be telling
my uh my family and um once we go you know spend each other spend time with everybody in the
for the holidays we'll definitely be looking at your content we'll be fans we'll be watching
be in the comments so uh I appreciate it we'll be here to support you keep doing what you're
doing I enjoy it thank you I really appreciate that absolutely enjoy the rest of your day and I
truly appreciate
it again right thank you you too bye
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