Tamil Millionaire CEO's House Tour in America 🇺🇲 | VDart - Irfan's View

So this is who Tamil guys are.. Yes absolutely.. I vouch for Tamil guys. Oh yeah, listen to her. I vouch for them. From so many people I know.. Tamil guys are the best. What I like about American houses is having a bigger kitchen like this. You're coming here on a train? Which gate are you in? Don't get on the train. Just get off the train and wait there because there's somebody to pick you up there. Welcome Irfan, welcome to Atlanta Thank you so much.. It's so good to see you, thank you for bei

ng here. Thank you Sumetha. You're so welcome, you're so welcome. Sumetha is just awesome Yeah definitely. She was my daughter's wedding planner and she's the one who handles all my special events. Nice, that's good to know. We just missed you at the entrance.. -It's okay. I think the gates were... -We're so sorry about that. Don't worry about all that I didn't even expect you to come here. I thought I'll just come and go to my room.. So hey, hello Irfan's view, we're in Atlanta, US now. and now

I'm going to show you a house and it's a house tour. Who's house is this? It's the house of an entrepreneur called Sidd. And he's from Trichy, Tamil Nadu. So he's from our State and he's come to US and he has created this $300 million company from scratch. He build this and he's running this. $300 million is nearly 2000 crores in Indian money. So he created this massive company small and he has grown it so much. So we're not just looking at his house but also his office and we'll also talk to h

im and understand how he built this company. So it will be useful for everyone. So let's go meet Sidd Ahmed now and it's really cold outside guys. Irfan, welcome.. -Thank you. You're so cold. It's very cold and I have to tell you about Sidd, he's such an energetic man. His energy is like.. It just smacks everyone. No matter what mood we're in he makes his surrounding positive by the way he talks. Sidd, how are you? -I'm superb. You're energy is really contagious. Gosh no! No one can match your e

nergy. I'm not kidding and I don't say this about everyone.. Because you're energy is too much. Like literally. and he's always with that positive thought. So come on please.. because it's very cold outside. Yes Sidd, I'm happy to be here. Thanks for inviting us to your beautiful home. So come on! Absolutely I'd love to.. and first of all I want to welcome you home and I want to show you around my house as well. Thank you so much for the opportunity for being with you. Thank you so much and we'r

e going to ask a lot of question with bro.. But then before that let me show you around the house. Correct.. Come on.. So this here is my study area. This is where I generally have all my books and in the mornings.. If I have any calls from my office this is where I attend it from.. So this is the first area that we see.. I wanted to ask you this question first.. You're at a certain level now and did you ever think you'll be at this position when you started? I definitely didn't think that. I th

ought I'll be at a certain level but I never thought that I'll grow to this level. Okay you studied in Trichy and what's the life difference between then and now? I think life is the same. But it's just the joy and happiness of doing certain things that you really love to do. That is what's the.. -That's deep. Nice, nice.. -That's the real joy. I think when you're run a company you're helping the youth everyday and you're helping them set their careers, giving them a career path, that's the joy.

Actually guys I should have sat down before talking about this but these are the things that really impressed me. So he's starting this company and he's got this office and all here. But people usually start it in Chennai if it's in Tamil Nadu, there's a lot of IT companies there. But he's like no, I'm from Trichy and I wanna start it in my own place and he's got his office in Trichy. and there are 700 people working there, right? -750 people in Trichy. Wow! That's like.. Really, really cool. -

Thank you This here is our dining area. So the concept behind this was the thing that I like.. As you said energy and vibrant, I really like white and that's why my entire house would be white. So being sparkles trying to be clean and white.. So that gives a lot of energy Yes, it does. -So we designed it that way. Yes it does and it's a beautiful dinner place and it looks fabulous. Absolutely come let's take a look at this.. So did you actually build this place yourself or you altered it? This h

ouse was built actually and they started building house in this area back in 2010 So in that time we chose this house. and there's a funny story about it. There was this water body in the back and I bought the house thinking it would be nice to have something like a pond in the back But then it turned out to be a detention pond which is what we call sewage pond back home. So it turned out like that but it's nice. This here is a rest room. -It's like a powder room. Yeah this is a powder room. Thi

s is the powder room and again you'll see white.. -Yeah it's white everywhere, I saw that He's there.. -He's playing? He's playing.. Oh yeah, he's there. Hi.. -Hello.. Actually he's Sidd's son, his name is.. -Zayed. Hi Zayed -What's up? So his name is Zayed and he's in his gaming time now. So he's playing and he's actually a.. -Football player. Hey, what are you? -Football player. Football player, what position do you play? -Offensive line Which school do you play for? -(inaudible) Awesome.. You

wanna say hi? Hi Thank you. Actually Zayed is a little shy and I already met him. So he's inside and he plays football.. That's the football here, it's different from our football which is what they call soccer here But here they'll catch it with their hands here and call it football. American football. They'll run like this dodging through and it's really hard. So if you and I are going to play then it goes like.. We'll be ready and go... Exactly that.. That's what he does.. That's the energy

that I was talking about. Come let's go see the living room. and when we're entering the living room, Sidd's wife's here. Hi, how are you? -I'm good, how are you? I'm good, thank you. This is my wife Sabeera and we had the pleasure of hosting Irfan. Absolutely and thank you so much for coming over.. Thank you so much and what can I say.. I can show houses like this to my viewers in America and I appreciate this. So you have a home now in America. -Thank you so much. So guys from what she said we

've also got a house in Atlanta. So yeah this is the living room This is where we spend majority of our time. and that's why it's called living room. -That's right, yeah. Could you please explain us about the fire place and.. Yeah sure, generally what happens is it gets a little colder here around the February time frame and that's why we've got a fireplace. Just to keep it a little warm. All of that and most of the family oriented stuff and everything that we watch is going to be out here, so t

his is where spend most of our time. But all of this artistic decoration is completely done by my wife. Nothing creative about me. Nothing creative about me and this is also like a game room, so we play carrom or cards and all of that... Sometimes we just eat food here, so like a big thali. Really? -Yeah During Eid we just sit down and eat our biryani here. -That's fun Guys they say during Eid time they'll sit down here and have their biryani. Wouldn't that be fun? -It would be superb. It's alwa

ys a pleasure to sit on the floor and eat. Oh yeah.. Definitely. Don't wonder why he's only speaking in English because he's not actually a Tamilian. and that's why she's speaking in Tamil Like what's happening.. A little bit (In Tamil) Yeah but she understands and she's from Mumbai right? -Yeah Yeah so she doesn't know Tamil but she understands. But then I met her in Chennai. Yeah they met in Chennai. He was born in Trichy and she was born in Mumbai but they met in Chennai. So all credits to Ch

ennai. Correct!! What I like about American houses is having a bigger kitchen like this. So this is a key area in that. because this is the right place to cook and serve the food. So generally if you don't have a dining or if you don't want to sit at the dining place then.. So breakfast. -It's mainly for breakfast. and that's a breakfast nook. Oh this one here? -So again if you're having early morning breakfast.. That was the favourite place for my daughter when she used to go to school she used

to have her coffee there. This is actually good. and guys look there's a chair like this here and as it's a glass chair it's a little scary for me to sit in this. But yeah and it's also tall.. You can definitely sit on it. -No I can but still I'm scared. Consider that I'm scared of it's height. So just imagine sitting here in the morning having your breakfast. So all this here.. When I bought the place it was all brown. So only after that we changed it to white.. -So that it looks bright It's a

ctually.. I really like it that it's bright. But it's hard to maintain that brightness right? -Yeah you're right. So you need to keep cleaning.. Keep on cleaning yeah. She says you're right.. I've got to keep on cleaning. That comes in my part. No Sidd also actually helps a lot. Is that so? Okay.. Sidd's saved. When people ask me he's an entrepreneur and he's always traveling, so does he get time to spend with you guys and I'm like he makes it a point that he is there for us. He's really the sou

l of the family. So this is who Tamil guys are.. Yes absolutely.. I vouch for Tamil guys. Oh yeah, listen to her. I vouch for them. From so many people I know.. Tamil guys are the best. Fantastic bro.. -I definitely vouch for South Indian guys. See that? This man has brought more pride to Tamil guys because he was a good guy.. Like they say "If you've seen one, you've seen them all" So the one she saw has been good. So even we got credit for that. Thank you Sidd. -You're welcome. Come let's sit

down and talk.. -Yeah Actually I wanted to ask you this because when you started it you didn't know you were gonna do this. But when you started you would have had a forecast and what's that? The starting forecast was what I was thinking is.. This is something I've always had, it's that childhood dream.. I wanted a build a huge office and I wanted to see 1000s of people working there. I had a dream like that since I was a child. and the beauty of that is that I had this dream where I walk up the

se stairs with a suitcase in my hand wearing a suit Buying a suitcase was a big dream for me. So that was the original thought as a child. When I started the business I thought we have to set-up a company of at least 100 people. The company that I worked before this.. I've never worked for a big name company before this. I've never worked for any large business at all. All were these smaller business. and in those small business my first company was worth $7 million I worked in Pittsburgh and th

en I went to Detroit. In Detroit it was a $2 million company. and I had this role like Vice President of Sales. and I was able to grow that company to $22 million. and that's when I thought.. I was very instrumental there and I had a good position. and I was able to grow it to $22 million and then I was thinking how is that we can.. and in that time I was saying this to all the people and my bosses this.. They were all lifestyle entrepreneurs of these small companies trying to build a empire onl

y for themselves and not about the entire team. So that's when I was telling them.. and it was the time when off-shoring trend started.. I used to tell them about Trichy but no one understood the idea of that. In the sense because Trichy has over 140 colleges and there's so much of talent pool I said let's do something in Trichy but no one listened to me. So that was the corner stone of whole idea behind the business. How can you really utilize the talent pool of Trichy and can we build a global

business? So that is the corner stone of our vision. This is our 15th year of business and in these 15 years we've been able to do phenomenally well for Trichy's population. In Trichy alone we've created more than 6000 jobs. Currently there are over 750 people working in 4 different facilities. Actually we're the largest IT or IT enable services.. -VDart We're not just a IT enable services company we have opportunities in Sales, Marketing, Finance, ESG, Culture.. Almost what a big name MNC comp

any has.. In software development, QA testing.. We've got it in almost all the different areas. So you've got processes. -Yeah BPO process.. So we have jobs in almost all the areas. and we're able to give that comfort level for our people. Like when you join a small company you'll just have to do a particular job and if you quit that you won't find another position in that company... So we're able to create that.. We've got digital marketing, content creators, video creators. Blog writers, we've

got everything. All those opportunities are available within the company. So guys as we speak we're now going out. So we're going to the deck.. -Actually I love this place. and that's why I wanted to show this to you guys. Yep this is the deck, look at this place. You can oversee the lawn from here. Lawn.. What's it called? Backyard. So we have a fireplace out there so you can keep warm. It would be nice and it's really beautiful when you turn on these lights. It's actually very cold out here t

oday and if it wasn't so cold you can have so much fun here. What all have you done with this place? In this place? Most importantly we had our daughter's marriage here.. Pre engagement events all happened in this area here. and then outside when people come here in general. -To host parties and all that.. Parties happen upstairs and downstairs, so people can really have some fun. Nice You would have seen these fridge magnets on all the American houses that you've went to. and let me explain to

you about the fridge magnets at my house. So generally you'll see all the pictures of our kids. So you'll see kids growing up through the ages and all the places that we've visited over the years. So guys Sidd's a guy who does a lot of workout.. You can see him.. You're 40... You're 50? -Yes 51 He's 51, I never thought that when I met him and when I asked him how he's so fit.. Yeah he's like fit and fab. Where do you do it? Where? Oh come on let me show you where I do it. I want to show you guys

.. -My workout stretches actually start here in the morning. Stretch station is.. Let me just show you a small stretch Usually we'll stretch the knee before we run and then it is this.. My wife always yells at me saying don't do your stretches where we eat. See he's doing it again. So that's what she'd say but come.. and I don't like it. This is my favourite place to workout. This is my basement where we have our GYM Even my son.. because he plays football, he works out here. So this is the work

out frame. because we were doing a bit of heavy weight training as he's playing football.. So we got this frame. It was a different setup before this but we have all the equipments here. For boxing and kick boxing we've got this as well. So Irfan and I are going to box now. Yeah.. I didn't say anything it was his words Yeah boxing.. Boxing over Imagine if boxing was like this.. With gloves on.. Done. This is just a guest room out here. So we'll have any of our guest visiting. Irfan if you're com

ing here next time then you'll have to stay with us for sure. This is our home theatre. Theatre at our home, so it's called home theatre So we've watched many Tamil movies and English movies here. But it's mostly for the kids.. they'll really, really enjoy it. It's still really fun for us to go to the cinemas and watch it with other audience in the theatre. What was the last film that you saw? -Black panther. Black Panther okay and in Tamil? Ponniyin Selvan, it was an awesome film -It was awesom

e right? Come on.. -Please.. You first please.. Come on, come on (In Tamil) We're going to look at the rooms now. This is the guest room. Oh it's the guest room, okay. Babies and Sidd's favourite books.. -These are her babies and those are my babies Okay.. Nice. During Pandemic.. We made the most important decision from this chair. This is how it happens in our world and in our business. So we're like 4 companies all together. It's like a VDart group. We have close to 4,000 people globally. Rig

ht around 2nd or 3rd week, me, my CFO and CHRO and I'm having this call from here around 10'o clock in the night. and I vividly remember this because I say this story many times. We're having this call about what to do because there is no more business. All the business is gone. So that time we're having this call about whether to lay off them or to continue all these people. In the sense what do we do. That time we made this call that.. In a city like Trichy what if they are the bread winner of

the family? It's that person alone because our talent pool is from farmers and they're kids of first generation workers. So we were thinking through this question and we said what if that person is the bread winner of the family? What do we do? If we lay them off, how are they going to earn money and how are they going to survive? During the entire pandemic we did not let go of even a single person. Janitor, car driver, cook, chef.. We did not let go of anyone. As a result of that we were able

to create what is called as a brand love. So people really love this brand and that's what you'd find out when go to Trichy. I think my wife also played a very important role in this journey as well. You would have seen a lot of trophies in my office. -Yeah But this trophy alone will be here in my personal workspace. That's because my mother is.. After we started VDart in 2017 we have this big event called R&R (Rewards and Recognition) So we'll call all our employees from Trichy and we'll bring

all our customers from US It's a 3 day event. and in that event we'll ask the parents to come to the function and their parents have to give them that award So we call that creating memorable experience or micro experience. because we may have received awards from many people but we sometimes don't remember whom we got it from. If a son or a daughter gets his or her award from their parents then no one can create that experience. So that is what we do year on year and this is the 12th year we di

d this. In that time my mother surprised me. In 2017 she gave me this award called VDart Champion. So this is the trophy what my daughter built from a newspaper cutting. I got the Small Business Person of the Year Award in Atlanta Business Chronicle and she said, "Dad I love you so much" and this is one of the publications that the newspaper wrote that we see that this is going to be a half a billion dollar company. When they published this we were a $150 million worth roughly. and now we've dou

bled our revenues and we're almost there. Amazing house Sidd. Thank you. -Thank you for showing us. I usually do house videos in our channel. When I do it back home people actually like to see how these different houses look. I thought I should show a reference for them to see how does houses look in America. I've already done a house video and when they see this it will be a reference, so they'll know this is how it would be there. So it would be interesting for them to watch, it's like a cross

culture thing. Very true, very true. So people from our state when they're here.. So yeah I'm so happy that we did this today. We'll talk more about this stuff because I believe this would be useful for the people watching this. Correct. Many youngsters watch my channel. Everyone wants to do something and grow bigger. They've always had that mindset. How should they start their journey? Should they dream big and aim for the skies or just focus on today and do what's necessary for that? What was

your view when you started? Firstly you asked me a superb question.. Going back to the story.. Generally what I'm so passionate about is the student community. That's because when you look at American economy, small business is the heart of American economy. So small business is what's helping the economy. So what's small business? It's all about entrepreneurship But when you look at India kids or students in school or colleges don't get a lot of entrepreneurial education and that's why we don'

t find a lot of entrepreneurs in India. and that's been changing now. and for me when I was a kid my grandmother used to make kites and sell those. She used to sell kites and that's how she would earn. That's what my grandmother used to do. and my parents were really struggling then. They used to make these electuaries for cows and they used to put it in these cans at home and put a sticker on it that says KSM and they used to bring it to stores and sell them. I sometimes think is it probably be

cause I saw that... Probably that was inside you.. That entrepreneurship.. -That we want to do something on our own. So I think maybe it's because of that.. But what all my friends used to say when I was in college is that I should be in a Sales environment So that's what happened eventually because I studied computer science. and after I finished my studies they said.. because I didn't even know 1 line of code, I finished that 4 year degree in 7 years. In that time I got my first job as a marke

ting executive in Brilliance So we have to go to these colleges and sell computer education. Computer education was very less in early 90s We need to convince people and college students to take up computer education and then we had to go to many student's houses and convince their parents about it. back then my uncle working in Gulf said you're doing a great job for other companies, I'll invest for you, you start your own company he said. and in that time I don't know if I knew or it was just i

ntuitive but I said no. I said I don't want to do it now and I said I wanted to learn more about this in detail. So maybe I got this because I saw my parents do it. Or maybe because many of them.. -It's so deep. Even I can relate to this because my dad was also doing a business like that. Is it probably because of that? To do something on our own.. Meaning I think we see and do things without knowing ourselves. Very true. Like what we're surrounded by.. So we become what we're surrounded by. bec

ause the drive to come all the way here from the scratch, I wanted to know how you got it and that's why I repeatedly kept asking you this. I am so inspired by your story Irfan.. Your story is a classic entrepreneurial story You have more people working from Trichy in your company. So I've always had this wish.. Anyone working in an IT company would want to go to US Yeah, yeah.. I myself was thinking I can go to US only if I'm in IT but because I was weak in Maths and Science I just studied B.Co

m and forgot about it. So do people from your company come here or is there something like that? because if it's like that I can recruit people who wish to come here. If you're in Trichy then go there.. Superb question.. Of course this is the 13th year after we started this in Trichy. When we started this first in Trichy in Raja Colony and we call that "The house of success" because that's the house built by my dad. When we started the company we didn't have enough money to buy a office. So it w

as terrace.. Usually people say it's a garage start up but this was a terrace start up. So it was a terrace start up with asbestos sheet and back then spending 1.5 lakhs on that was really hard. because that's when we started the company. So we had that installed and we recruited 5 people. and those 5 people are still working in the company after 13 years... and now many people have completed more than 10 years. But most of these who joined our company were freshers, they were right out of colle

ge and we started something like this in Trichy for the first time. In IT outsourcing enable services. and these people now manage multi million dollar portfolios for the business. So they often travel to US and meet the clients. Just like how you travel they'll also travel and be here for 6 months or so depending on the customer meetings, attending conferences.. So what we must do for that in general there are lots of Visa restrictions in US and that's when we thought about how we could give g

rowth opportunity to all the people in Trichy. and how can we do that? US isn't the only destination and we didn't think about that specifically.. But then our operations are in Canada, Mexico, Costa Rica, Brazil, UK, Belgium.. Australia, Japan, India.. and India is our delivery center. Which is what delivers to all these countries. and Trichy is the only place. In generally when people open companies they do it in Bangalore, Chennai, Kolkata because they think that's where the talent pool is. B

ut what we thought was when there's a talent pool in Trichy we must just invest in Trichy. and in these 3 years we did not open delivery centers anywhere else. because we didn't find senior level software developers in Trichy we opened small offices in Chennai and Bangalore. and what's important about this is that we recently launched this regional headquarters in Malaysia. So that's to serve the Asian region like Thailand, Singapore and all of those regions. So when we opened this office what w

e did was who were in senior positions we gave them the opportunity to go to Malaysia. We said okay we can work in a multi geography. So VDart offers opportunities to work overseas. So it's been 13 years since you started VDart and you've got 750 employees so far.. So I saw this article saying you're working towards having more than 2000 employees. So you're still recruiting if I'm not wrong.. -Yes, yes So in this recruitment process what do you look for as an employer? Oh that's superb. because

this would be useful to many people. There'll be people watching this who are going on a interview for the first time, so if they know what an employer looks for then they'll get the formula. So it will make it easier for them.. Irfan there's not a lot of difference in this and some of the points that you mentioned are very important. First thing is.. We call it 3Hs, we say this in our HR team. Degree isn't important.. You don't need a degree at all to work with VDart. You can get a role in pro

gramming, marketing, HR or any other department. Degree is not important. I said 3 Hs the first one is Hunger. The real Hunger.. I'm ready to do whatever it takes. and the 2nd thing is hustle. I'll find the answer for whatever problem that your throw at me. Hunger, Humble and Hustle. So the 3rd one is Humble. So these young kids.. It's how people are at this age. When we're working in an office and do an achievement we'll assume we know everything. But to be with that humility and the most impor

tant thing is communication skill. Communication and English speaking skill is very important in today's trend.. and India is a services Industry right? and service industry primarily serve overseas customers. and for that if you have the right communication skill you can absolutely win at this job. How helpful was book reading for you to do this and when did this book reading start? I started book reading when I started my business maybe 4-5 years before that. So probably about 20 years so far

in book reading. So that's why I say this now.. Start that habit when you're in College. because you're depth of knowledge and different types of views.. You keep getting that through books. Hi guys.. -Hello!! We're still making this video and she went out and brought what all groceries. We've been talking for so long. But it's very interesting that's why.. I won't be able to stop when I'm talking like this. because we're gaining knowledge. Absolutely. This employees welfare.. We were talking ab

out that. So the things that you do for your employees. Specially when we started this company back in 2010 in Trichy women didn't used to go out at night to work. Ladies didn't used to work, so we went to the home of our first employee to convince her parents. Saying send your daughter to the office and we'll take good care of her. From then today 52% of our workforce is women. Wow! In our company what we have is to bring that gender equality.. There are 52% women but there aren't many in leade

rship positions. So we started this initiative called the Global women leadership. So we did that intentionally to get our women to leadership roles. Early what 2016 -2017.. How did we take care of people right? Whoever completed 5 years in our company got cars. We gave them Honda City cars and we did this back in 2016-17 So anyone who had completed 5 years.. We awarded them like that. You gave them cars.. -Yeah we gave them Honda City cars. We nearly gave 20 cars just to recognize people. You t

ry and want to improve each and everything in the nook and corner. I believe you have that thought because you're reading more books and you have more knowledge about this, you're hustling and you're fit... I think collection of these things that can create something like this, else you can't. and what's the future for VDart? We've crossed the 15 year journey and in these 15 years we've grown to about $300 with 4 different companies. We're in services, product, talent management.. What we're loo

king at for the next 15 years for these companies are CEOs.. So there's enough growth opportunities for people within the organization. CEOs, CHROs, CFOs.. We're looking at growing this company to the next level meaning in 2025 we're looking at the half a billion dollar journey. and in 2030 we're looking at the billion dollar journey. and with all of this.. Trichy takes the center stage. We're planning to create 2,500 additional jobs in Trichy alone. It is going to become the technology hot bed

because of the kind of.. Looking at us many big name companies are started their companies in Trichy So how a organization can create a economic, social impact.. Trichy is like a boom town now. So how these 750 people can create an economy impact in their place. and because of that more companies start to invest in Trichy and that brings great opportunities to Trichy's talent pool. I think by 2023 or the next 15 years.. -inshallah (if Allah wills it.) We sincerely believe we'll be able to bring

a lot more economic and social impact. and with true purpose which is to change the trajectory of.. What's the purpose of the company is.. You could be in technology services, products or talent management but it's the same purpose line for all. That's to change the trajectory of people's life. Meaning how you can radically transform a youth's life from point A to point B and overall vision is to create success, wealth and quality of life for people. Great!! Thank you, thank you.. -The time that

we spent talking was on another level.. Whenever we speak he gives more insights and knowledge that we can takeaway. and that's what I've been enjoying with Sidd. Be it day before yesterday or yesterday and bro you're on another level. Thanks for this time and thanks for.. You're on another level bro for you to come here and do this.. I can't put it in words. and I was telling this to my wife I'm just so inspired and today we missed out on lunch but then you must definitely come as a speaker to

our office. Definitely.. because at this age of 29 for you to accomplish such an amazing thing.. You're also family now. -You're just doing fantastic. So you have a home now. Thank you so much I appreciate it. Thanks bro. -Thank you. Yep.. So guys make use of this video if it was useful to you. Or if you think it would be useful to your friends then share it with them. Definitely send this to people living in Trichy. Let them know their city has a place called VDart.. Tell them that.. -Definite

ly tell them because they've done something for Trichy and that's why I said that. If you're really look at Sidd then check out siddahmed.com if you're a college student. So I've given links in the description to contact them.. and I've given all the information at my disposal. So there's all sites and contact details of their offices so you can.. Definitely. -and you'll be taken care like a family Irfan you've been constantly talking about how many books I read and the knowledge that I bring. I

t's not much, okay but the one thing that I recommend, It's a gift I could have given you a big gift but I believe this to be a gift of a lifetime. and I wanted to share this gift with you. Sabeera can you get me that please.. This is something that's going to be a super special gift for you.. So this is about story telling. I believe you're a great leader. and you also have.. 10 stories great leaders tell. It's a superb book by Paul Smith. and this is like what they say preaching the choir But

there's no one better than you at story telling. and I'm giving you books.. -Gosh! I'm still learning bro. Okay it's super nice. Okay it's all about story right? Lead with story. Sell with a story and parenting with a story. and 10 stories great leaders tell. Yes -Thank you so much. Thank you, thank you. I really believe these books will be immensely helpful for you. and I hope you enjoy the gift. Will do. Thank you so much. Thank you.