TARGETS LOCATED: The Guthrie Family: 46 Years Missing (pt3)

[Music] we just got to keep ripping pieces off till we can [Music] identify nice work Dan that'll give us an answer right there we may have found Lesley's vehicle he said when he came home one day she was sitting on the couch catatonic staring at the TV and when he looked to see what she was watching it was just static so for me personally coming back to the I think that a lot of this is just a coincidence and that because the vehicle is missing I feel like she's still in the water in the area s

omewhere this is the first time we get to try out the new proton 5 JW Fisher magnetometer that we picked up a few days ago well I wish I had better answers today for you know but you know we have ruled you know several locations out like you said you know you you no longer have to look down down there you know Wonder yeah exactly that's a good thing not even 6:00 a.m. we're getting an early start this morning as we are looking for the Guthrie family we're looking for 29-year-old lesie her two ch

ildren Timothy who was three as well as her daughter Julie who was just 6 years old at the time the vehicle in question that we're looking for is a 1974 300 edition Ford Maverick license plate number 636 wna we've already put in two days of searching looking for the Guthries if you've missed either one of those episodes check out the two links in the description down below we have no idea what happened to lesie we know it was February 5th we know there was snow slush and Ice was it nothing more

than an accident or did something have to do with the upcoming divorce to where lesie decided to leave did she take her family somewhere else is lesli still out there we don't have those answers but what we are going to do we're going to step back into this case today and we're going to give lesli's family answers as to where she is where she is not we're going to go ahead and get started and see what we can do to find lesli and her two kids [Music] today for families who have all but given up o

n finding their loved ones this team is a last [Music] [Applause] [Music] hope [Applause] [Music] [Music] to a new phenomenon civilian divers cracking cold cases for [Music] free [Music] [Applause] [Music] EX yesterday's search we really focused on the on-ramps up here in Katona off of 35 and Cherry we cleared all those locations and unfortunately we were not able to find the guies so this is where we come into it with this new information of Billy that we didn't find out about until yesterday f

rom Jennifer so she called Uncle Billy who was working at the Air National Guard at Westchester County Airport Les called Uncle Billy okay that was her that's the and that was the last call anyone is heard she put the call in to the guard unit and someone else answered she was looking for her uncle her Uncle Billy wasn't there okay so then we started to think well if she was trying to get a hold of him she probably wasn't going to McDonald's and she probably wasn't going to movies why was she ca

lling Uncle Billy he lives in Mount Kisco on this crowhill road which unfortunately is exactly what we just spoke about that route 100 all the way down so I so I asked my mother-in-law how would this is where you were this morning right she would have we did go down 100 there's a lot of there's a lot that's where we and then that's the lady's house right there but the police have the records that day she called so let's focus on this one today so that way we can all mark this one off and then to

morrow if we don't find anything here we can focus on 100 tomorrow all the way down if you have time okay y awesome oh we'll make time for 100 all right all right awesome cool that kind of brings you up to speed as to who Billy is why we're over here on r 100 and then making left on Crow over the bridge with the hopefulness of somewhere along this route we might find Leslie and the [Music] kids and I just have a Target over here I want to check out I'll show you what I'm looking at on S scan as

we come back over it here object I was looking at was after the right but it appeared to be too shallow or uh not big enough still in seven 72 ft of water yeah that's not big enough for a vehicle those were just rocks right there and then there was one more that's a rock here anyway the way if you've never seen our sonar before and the way that it reads this right here we is what we reference as our s skin we're casting 75 ft to the left 75 ft to the right anything that you see down the middle h

ere or up on top is water column now this is a picture in time so we can actually go back and we can see if we missed anything we can zoom in on it and check that out over here is our live scope this is actually what's happening in real time so if a fish swims by you'll be able to see the fish swim by immediately so picture in time real time [Music] right off of 100 easy reading it's 20 ft deep so it's plenty [Music] deep this right here if you're uh reading sonar with us this is actually above

the shoreline so we can't see above that this is going to be the rock for the causeway here coming into the water and then this is going to be the actual bottom of it the water directly underneath the boat and then everything off to the [Music] left so it almost appears as though this is an old uh Highway and bridge that we're coming up to up here I say this is before lesle even went missing in my opinion but I'm not sure we have the telephone po old single Lane Road Bridge so you have the telep

hone poles on both sides of the road there if you look at it and you start to put it [Music] together we have a car in here we might have two cars in here right over here let me show you two cars there older than the smokes old old cars either one of those could be lesle and the kids right off this Old Bridge here yeah 1977 there's there's like an old ramp there but right underneath this bridge Bridge here two cars upside down I believe yeah it might be right side up it's just really really old

holy freak all right that one appears to be upside down that one appears to be upside down back up again it's like dead center straight out is where it's at all right see where the second one's at second one I think is closer to shore [Music] there yep second one is right below us right now and upside down so they just need to come straight Off the Wall right [Music] here we just found two cars that our super old period This is Not an Accident period this would either be on purpose as a murder o

r a dump period if this is less ly and the kids [Music] period all right let's see if we can actually climb up through here we can get the boat out [Music] and so the question is if we have two vehicles off the end of this when did they actually put this barrier up to keep people from going in there yeah one off the dead center 68 ft out one off the right hand side 68 ft out you got a fence on that [Music] side wasn't even on your radar here was it I know that I didn't know that that fridge was

even there yeah pretty wild two old old Vehicles down there yeah yeah the sonar reading matches the timeline for [Music] sure D I think here but that bridge we were on yesterday uhhuh looks like a similar structure hey Dan so we'll have you and Nick suit [Music] [Music] up how how deep are they 15 to 17 ft and they're right off the wall like you're you come straight down the wall and it's 6 ft right there okay and what makes you think this would have been onp purpose thing this is is not off of

a bridge this is off of a bridge off of an old Route Bridge you so you think this was demoed pre 1977 I think so because of where the vehicles are at do we have any way of looking up um my map doesn't go back that far or it could have been an accident that they thought it was still there I don't think so I mean it's it's in the afternoon it's not dark secluded well we're about to find [Music] [Music] out what can you tell us about this uh bridge in this location what can I tell you about it like

well there's a farm down here mus farm muscot farm where everybody takes their kids uhhuh you know to go and they they can pick apples well in February they wouldn't have done any of that do do you know when this road in this bridge closed down that I can't tell you about I didn't even know this road okay until we came here today I didn't know it I figured it was like uh public works or something right yeah public works on the on the south side of it for sure so the way that the vehicles in are

in there they could have come off either side because it's not that big of a gap so if they would have come off this side you know they could have floated for a moment flipped over and sunk if they came off the other side they could have just gone straight down flipped over and sunk this isn't old 100 is it I believe it's old 100 old 100 oh could that be yeah but I don't know how far back that would gone yeah I don't remember going this way to tell you the truth I only remember going in front o

f mus sco Okay so I can on 100 so Route 100 was here in 77 that that was that other road was there in 77 my feeling is we're no longer looking at an accident um doesn't mean it wasn't you know what was the road like and you know is this the road that she may have taken in the past and you know was it snowing you know how much slush or snow was she confused um you know we have the reports of her sitting in front of the you know just staring off into the in the blank TV with static going um so yea

h so everything is on the table we don't know our mission also is not to figure out you know the how you know our mission is to Simply figure out the where and then you know the family and law enforcement everybody can you know take it from there if this is not you know we'll have a million people that will be watching the episode you know and lustly you know if you're out there with the kids you know nobody's mad come say hi to your family you know and you know give your sister a hug you know n

ever too late to absolutely menend the past you [Music] know that smells good [Music] let me get back over it for you right here if you drop down straight here you're going to land straight on top of it it's upside down see in a bit I'll talk to [Music] you all right so there's our divers they're both at the very bottom there they are okay I feel a tire but I can't really see anything yet visibility is kind of [Applause] bad okay I see the side I'm working my way around it trying to figure out w

hat side of the vehicle I'm on [Music] St [Music] at what appears to be the rear of the vehicle and the license plate is missing visibility gets real bad it silts up real quick I'm staying close to the vehicle working my way around trying to see any other [Laughter] side you can see I'm directly on it [Music] I'm at another tire trying to find an emblem but it's pretty rusted and corroded and covered in silk it's real hard to tell what anything is the top of the vehicle is buried in silk all all

the way past the door [Music] knobs [Music] [Music] [Music] C that vehicle is par deep uh it's hard to tell but it is I'll come back to let the silk settle we may have to come to the surface first try to find that second vehicle the visibility is pretty bad down here here I think there's some sort of cat face or something that keep swimming away stirring it up not yet identified bur past the door hand okay so you can't even see two door four-door could you tell I can't even tell and it's kind o

f an angle plus that vehicle is just super red right and uh any any hub caps on the wheels any hub caps on the wheels uh yeah they're D no not hub caps it's like SP kind of I found this on the back of the vehicle and I pulled it off in that pocket there's a little a 50 set piece I think it's plastic a 128 yeah I don't know what that maybe that's the only thing that I could see on anywhere on the vehicle that would give me any where did this come off of the back of the vehicle okay I'll look it u

p on the Ford Maverick and see but uh and it has a sticky back maybe it was somebody's personal thing I don't know the only thing we go bu one the second car now okay so where's the second car that way straight out from where we're at right here okay I'll try try to keep up with you [Music] yeah okay make contact with the second vehicle again super dark terrible viz old and Rusty I'll try to make my way around it find any sign of what kind of vehicle this is yeah check for like any removable hub

caps or any emblems along the side panels it does appear to have hub caps at least one or two I'll try to remove one they're pretty dented this vehicle also appears to be upside down and even possibly older than the last one and farther in the [Music] [Music] silt Dan was able to pull a hub cap we're going to go to the top with the hub cap and come back down mer at the other side Mercy all right can you get to the bumper at all the rear bumper did you see a bumper at all it's pretty bad down th

ere like it's sitting in the silt like that deeple okay uh um does the other one have Hub does the other one have hub caps at all alloy aluminum rims alloy okay were you able to make out what kind five five Stoke like that style yeah is that's it that's what it looks like the first one for the first one see if you can identify five five lug nuts yep and five rounded Yep this this is a barn find here Barn fine means it's never been changed it's original 90% sure okay see if it also has like the u

h little nub that sticks out yep from the middle should show me again One Last Time yep five lugs five stars and probably this far sticking out for the center all let me confir but I think that's it okay so we're looking to identify is it the five lugs with five holes kind of rounded and does it have the piece that sticks out as well if it does then we may have found Lesley's vehicle [Music] seven seven holes seven holes yeah okay I have another look okay and no center cap no center cap okay and

the thing is is these three 300s they have lots of different wheels on them so it's not out of the [Music] [Music] question all right this is the LI looks newer than a 1977 okay well let me look up the uh trunk on that I'm going to look up the uh trunk on the uh Maverick and [Music] see all right so this one yeah so this one is not our vehicle based on the rear license plate holder there okay the rear of the Ford Maverick is embedded in the bumper yeah I tried to pull the bumper it's not moving

anyway but this wasn't attached to the bumper it was not it was like above it yeah we're on the back of the trunk right yeah okay we know based on what we have this one's not okay let's get a little more information on the other one though by if we [Music] can yeah so all of these [Music] Mavericks where the bumper at they're embedded in the bumper and it doesn't have the plastic pieces around it also he said it was a seven or eight spoke versus a five that we're looking for but we don't have p

ictures of the actual car either that I know of we just know that it was so that's the same hubc cap Mercury also thank you that's a different hubc cap this might be what we're looking for here hold on cuz what if the hubc cap came off it's white okay yeah yeah let's keep ripping pieces off and it might be what we're looking for so that's going to be the wheel well right [Music] there so this is a trim piece it's attached to the car so this is the car underneath which is white barn find [Music]

1974 trim piece that trim piece is wider than what we have here now what we're looking for is right above the wheel here so where we can't tell on that one yeah we just got to keep ripping pieces off till we can [Music] identify it's possible that fuel feel up point is behind the double plate I think it whatever's facing that way yeah is what I want at the moment yeah that's the rear well that's the rear yeah so that's the fuel flot point I get way one or two more down [Music] okay and I think t

he gas tank thing is at the back where the cap is at that's how it was on these [Music] Fords yep right [Music] there [Music] what the H oh that'll help a lot rear or front that took a bit that's off the rear off the rear all right that should take an answer some questions yeah head back yeah for sure thank you you worked hard on that one nice work Dan that'll give us an answer right there yeah yeah we got part numbers on here so we should be able to tell exactly what that came off of still ther

e there no Nick's back at the shore oh s t i a r all right this lons all right this does not appear to be off of a Ford on this one all [Applause] right [Music] so 1970 is what this one's off of um so it's part of the bumper and the tail light section so we were hopeful because we were pulling some of these parts off of here which was white in color wow yeah so that started to give us some hope but right off the bat though we pulled the Mercury Hub but then you know you can't rule that out becau

se you know what if you know she ended up losing a hub and so she decided to replace it so when we pulled up the second Hub and the second Hub doesn't match the first Hub okay you know it can I see the other side of it wow okay and there's no markings on this one so then Dan went back down and started pulling more pieces I mean he definitely struggled on it so we did end up getting that now coming back to this other vehicle the reason why you know we're currently this is made in Italy so I mean

I'm going to say that other car is not for a couple reasons one that's made in Italy and that doesn't match the Maverick the Maverick has the rear license plate built into the bumper plus where this was at also would be the gas I believe on the Maverick was at the very back on those fors during the 7476 you know period but like behind the or left or right of the plate or behind the plate yeah which is where before we brought this up we were hopeful because Dan ended up pulling up the I was at th

e center in the back for where the gas goes in those look like two different hub caps there yeah and they were also different size so that's I so I was really surprised they pulled them off of the off the same vehicle off the same vehicle that's really weird somebody have just winged it off like find out in a moment here so Pontiac so Pontiac motor division is what what that car is so the part number off of this the guide 25 SAE star p170 gives us a 1970 Pontiac lemon oh my gosh yeah well do you

still have that 128 or that little emblem that I pull off the first vehicle uh yeah we have that as well this was on the first is it familiar to possibly something that doesn't look like it's from the F it almost looks like 128 oh 12 sticker on the back different than this car so the the Pontiac L Min is there this one was with this one yeah okay and that's the made in Italy yeah and this is made in Italy it looks like somebody put that on there after the fact as like a little I don't know thou

gh huh all right so this is a uh uh fi 85018 Laona Coupe sedan license plate mounting panel okay wow wow wow you were able to find a number off of it yeah J so what does that car look like that would explain why there's no front end on it and it's shorter and buried more we definitely gave it a good effort on this time yeah and so what I would like to do is you know put this back on our list again for you know next year when we're back in the New York area and uh you know we can revisit it check

out some more spots and oh my goodness you know we have a lot more waterways right there and uh you know it's not done I mean she's not been found but I think that also you know what if like we were talking earlier you know what if lesie and you know the kids are still out there right you know and that's where again we want to put that message out to you know lesie if you are out there and you are seeing this I mean bring the cousins back together you know you know come see your sister before i

t's too late and you know what like you said whatever may have been for whatever reason she left it doesn't matter you know she you know she didn't do anything illegal other than keep the kids from Timothy over the years I mean that's but nobody's going to put her in prison for it big young family yeah so so definitely come be a part of the family and we don't have a big family either that was my sister and my son yeah know um but you know we we were able to identify you know a couple cars that

no nobody knew about in the water here between now and then though I mean you know again put together any ideas we're going to have more viewers that are going to be reaching out to us and you know here's some more areas that you know you and your team need to search and getting anything that's you know within your gut that says hey please check here um I'm ruling the pond out next to your next to your house right now it's just too far off and there's only one way that she could have gone on rig

ht there off of Lakeside MH yeah you know and it's just everybody would have seen it yeah because it was shallower on that side than it would have been on the other side okay and in US looking at the foilage yesterday if she would have come off Grand View she just doesn't have the speed to come through all those trees to cover that amount of distance if it even if there was a drop off there okay she in my heart she's not in in there okay okay Mike nice meeting you Stephanie oh thank you so so mu

ch you're welcome I wish I had better answers for you oh listen we say yeah thank you for feel like we've done everything now yeah the coverage I mean is incredible as you were saying a lot of people are going to see this and maybe it will if they're out there you know hopefully they contact us yeah for sure Jennifer nice meting you you so much you're welcome absolutely thank you so much so much all your efforts thank you have a good day bye [Music] yeah