>> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND
WELCOME TO JOHN F. KENNEDY JR. FORUM . I AM A FIRST
YEAR AT COLLEGE PLANNING TO DO SOCIAL STUDIES AND MIDDLE
EASTERN STUDIES. I AM A MEMBER OF JOHN F. KENNEDY
JR. FORUM . PLEASE KNOW THE EXIT DOORS ON THE PARKSIDE
AND JFK STREET SIDE ARE LOCATED THERE. IN THE EVENT
OF AN EMERGENCY WALKED TO THE EXIT CLOSEST TO AND,
GET IN JFK PARK. LASTLY, THESE TAKE A MOMENT TO
SILENCE YOUR CELL PHONES AND JIMMY
IN WELCOMING ZACH . >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND
WELCOME TO THE JFK JR. FORUM. MY NAME
IS JACK AND I MET JR. AT THE COLLEGE AND I AM A
MEMBER OF THE JFK JR. FORUM COMMITTEE. TONIGHT, WE ARE
EXTREMELY HAPPY , NO PUN INTENDED, TO HAVE WITH US
ARTHUR BROOKS , THE PARKER GILBERT MONTGOMERY OFFICER OF
THE PRACTICE OF PUBLIC AND NONPROFIT LEADERSHIP AT
HARVARD KENNEDY SCHOOL INSTITUTE OF POLITICS AND
PROFESSOR OF MANAGEMENT PRACTICE A
T THE HARVARD
SCHOOL. PROFESSOR BROOKS IS THE AUTHOR OF NUMEROUS BOOKS
INCLUDING "BUILD THE LIFE YOU WANT: THE ART AND
SCIENCE OF GETTING HAPPIER" . COHORTS -- CO-AUTHORED WITH OPRAH
WINFREY. TUNE INTO THE ART OF HAPPINESS IF YOU
ALREADY DO NOT. WE ARE IN FOR A TREAT BECAUSE THIS
SESSION WILL BE MODERATED BY TAREK MASOUD, THE FORD
FOUNDATION -- PROFESSOR BROOKS . PLEASE HELP ME WELCOME TO
THE STAGE PROFESSOR BROOKS AND TAREK MASOUD
. >> GOOD EVENING LADIES AND
GENTLEMEN. >> YOU KNOW OPERA -- OPERA
IS NOT HERE. >> THIS WILL BE A HARD ONE
FOR ME TO DO. TYPICALLY WHEN I HAVE A CONVERSATION
LIKE THIS I TRY TO INTRODUCE SOME TENSION . I TRY TO INTRODUCE
DISAGREEMENT. I HAVE NEVER DISAGREED WITH ANYTHING THAT
ARTHUR BROOKS HAS EVER SAID OR WRITTEN . I WILL TRY TO
DO MY BEST TO BE A TOUGH INTERVIEWER, THAT IT WILL BE
HARD GIVEN YOU HAVE WRITTEN SUCH A GREAT
BOOK. I WANT
TO START BY ASKING A QUESTION
THAT MY LATE FATHER WOULD INVEST. HE WOULD'VE SEEN
THIS BOOK, "BUILD THE LIFE YOU WANT: THE ART AND
SCIENCE OF GETTING HAPPIER" , AND HE WOULD HAVE SAID
WHAT IS THIS AMERICAN OBSESSION WITH HAPPINESS?
AMERICANS ARE ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT HAPPINESS. EVEN IN THE
DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE, LIFE, LIBERTY AND THE
PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS OUR PURPOSE ON THE PLANET IS
NOT TO BE HAPPY. OUR PURPOSE IS
TO BE GOOD AND
SERVE GOD. THERE IS A MOVIE THAT YOU MAY HAVE SEEN, "
THE ART OF THE HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG. " IT IS A
>> Reporter: MOVIE ABOUT EMMETT IMMIGRANT IRANIAN
FAMILY . THE FATHER SAYS TO THE SUN AT SOME POINT,
THESE AMERICANS HAVE THE EYES OF SMALL
CHILDREN. THEY ARE FOREVER LOOKING FOR THE NEXT SOURCE
OF DISTRACTED ENTERTAINMENT AND SWEET TASTE IN THE
MOUTH . IT FELT LIKE SOMETHING MY FATHER WOULD
SAY. WHAT WAS M
Y FATHER GETTING WRONG ABOUT THIS
AMERICAN EFFICIENT WITH HAPPINESS? SUCH AS YOUR
FATHER AND EVERYBODY'S FATHER BY THE WAY.
>> I WAS A PROFESSIONAL CLASS MOVIE PROFESSIONAL
THROUGH MY 20s . I LEFT COLLEGE IN 19 . I WAS
INVITED TO PURSUE MY EXCELLENCE OUTSIDE
THE COLLEGE WHEN I WAS 19, IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN. I
SPENT MY 20s ON THE ROAD. MY PARENTS CALL IT MY GAP
DECADE. LATER , WHEN I WAS IN MY EARLY
30s, I DECIDED TO MAKE CH
ANGES. I WENT BACK TO
COLLEGE. THIS IS NOT THE TYPICAL PATH FOR A HARVARD
PROFESSOR. I CALLED MY DAD AFTER GOT MY BACHELORS
DEGREE AND DECIDED TO GO TO GRADUATE SCHOOL. DAD, I
DECIDED TO CHANGE JOBS. HE SAID, REALLY? I SAID I AM
LEAVING MUSIC . WHY, WE INVESTED SO MUCH ? YOU HAVE
DONE SO MUCH WITH YOUR LIFE. I SAID, BECAUSE I AM
NOT HAPPY . THERE IS QUITE. WHAT MAKES YOU SO SPECIAL ?
THIS IS A POINT , AND NONTRIVIAL ONE AND
ONE
PEOPLE ASK A LOT. WHAT IS THE AMERICAN OBSESSION WITH
HAPPINESS? EVERY GENERATION THINKS THE NEXT GENERATION
FEELS THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO HAPPINESS. THE WORDING OF
THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE IS INTERESTING.
THE WAY IT CAME ABOUT, ACCORDING TO TRADITION , IS
THOMAS JEFFERSON TOOK IT FROM THE VIRGINIA
DECLARATION OF RIGHTS FROM GEORGE MASON. THE
VIRGINIA DECLARATION OF RIGHTS TALK ABOUT LIFE,
LIBERTY AND PROPERTY. ALMOST CERTAIN
LY, AND JIM AND
FRANKLIN CONVINCED THOMAS JEFFERSON TO
PUT IN THE PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS. THE IDEA WAS THE
UTOPIAN NOTION OF A COUNTRY OF AMBITIOUS RIFF-RAFF ,
WHICH WE STILL ARE. AND, WE ARE PROUD OF IT,
WHICH IS LOVELY. THAT YOU COULD DEFINE
HAPPINESS AND YOU COULD GO AFTER IT WITH SUFFICIENT
FREEDOM. WITH SUFFICIENT EMPOWERMENT. IT IS NOT A
QUESTION OF YOU ARE ENTITLED TO HAPPINESS. NEVER TRUST
THE POLITICIAN THE PROMISES YOU HAPPI
NESS. WE ARE
ENTITLED TO UNDERSTAND HAPPINESS IN AFTER . WE ARE
TRYING TO BUILD A SOCIETY IN WHICH WE ACTUALLY CAN.
THAT IS IMPORTANT . IN TRUTH, HAPPINESS IS NOT EVEN
OBTAINABLE . ONE OF THE THINGS I READ ABOUT IN MY
WORK WAS THE NEUROSCIENCE OF EMOTION THAT SHOWS THE
LIMBIC SYSTEM OF THE BRAIN. IT PRODUCES CONSTANT NEGATIVE
EMOTIONS IN. WE HAVE TO HAVE THESE
NEGATIVE EMOTIONS. IF WE DID NOT, WE WOULD BE DEAD IN A
WEEK. THE NEGA
TIVE EFFECT MAKES YOUR HAPPINESS AND
POSSIBLE . YOU DO NOT WANT IT. YOU DO NOT NEED IT .
IT IS BAD FOR YOU. YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE
NATURE OF WHAT THE HAPPINESS PROPOSITION IS ALL ABOUT
USING SIGNS AND IDEAS. WHAT MY CO-AUTHOR HAS TERMED HAPPIERNESS. IT IS AND MAKE OBSESSION WITH
PROGRESS. WOULD THAT SATISFY YOUR DAD?
>> IT WOULD. WHAT DOES HAPPINESS MEAN. I EXPECT A
LOT OF IT HINGES ON THE DEFINITION OF HAPPINESS . MY
FATHER
WOULD'VE THOUGHT IT MEANT A FEELING OF PLEASURE.
FOR MEETING YOUR BOOK, YOU MADE SOMETHING DIFFERENT FROM
THAT. >> INDEED . THE PURSUIT OF
PLEASURE IS NOT A DIGNIFIED ACES ON WHICH TO BUILD A
GREAT COUNTRY, I DARE SAY. PSYCHOLOGISTS AND BEHAVIORAL
ECONOMISTS AND NEUROSCIENTISTS DEFINE HAPPINESS IN RELATIVE ESOTERIC WAYS. THE HAPPIEST
PEOPLE HAVE ACCOMMODATION OF THREE THINGS THEY GET
SKILLFUL AT. WE CALL THEM ENJOYMENT, SATISFACTION AND
MEANING. IF YOU WILL BE GETTING
HAPPIER OVER THE COURSE OF YOUR LIFE, YOU WILL OBTAIN
HAPPIERNESS . YOU WILL BE IN PURSUIT OF ENJOYMENT,
SECESSION AND MEANING. NEXT, WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS? THAT
IS THE SKILL. IT IS NOT A FEELING THIS IS VERY
IMPORTANT POINT. IF YOU TOLD ME THANKSGIVING DINNER WAS
THE SMELL OF TURKEY , I WOULD SAY THAT IS A
DISAPPOINTING THINGS GIVING WORD. THAT IS WHEN PEOPLE
SAY HAPPINESS IS A FEELING. THAT IS
WHAT THEY ARE
SAYING. FEELINGS ARE EVIDENCE OF HAPPINESS. THAT IS ALL
THEY ARE. WHICH YOU WANT IS TO FIND THE CORE
MACRONUTRIENTS. THE PROTEIN, , HUNTERS AND FAT THAT GOES
INTO HAPPINESS. THOSE THREE THINGS ARE LOOKING AT THE
EVIDENCE AND UNDERSTANDING THE SCIENCE PROPERLY. THE
ENJOYMENT, SECTION AND MEANING. THOSE ARE THE THREE
THINGS TO DO FIND IT. ENJOYMENT IS NOT
STRAIGHTFORWARD, BY THE WAY IT IS NOT THE SAME THING
AS PLEASURE,
WHICH HER FATHER WOULD APPRECIATE. THE
PURSUIT OF PLEASURE IS A GREAT WAY TO RUIN YOUR
LIFE. THE OLD HIPPIE VICTIM OF IF IT FEELS GOOD, DO
IT. MY FATHER HEARD THAT AND SAID, THAT IS THE END
OF AMERICA AS YOUR FATHER WOULD'VE SAID ALSO. HE WAS
KIND OF RIGHT. THE POINT IS THAT PLEASURE IS A OLYMPIC
PHENOMENON. ALMOST ANIMAL THING IN THE WAY THAT EMOTIONS, POSITIVE AND
NEGATIVE ARE NOTHING BUT THE DATA. PLEASURE IS A SIGNAL
THAT
SOMETHING IS LIKELY TO HELP YOU SURVIVE AND PASS
ON YOUR GENES. IF YOU PURSUE THAT YOU ARE HITTING
PARTS OF THE LIMBIC SYSTEM, NAMELY THE
MENTAL TAG AREA OF THE BRAIN. THE PLEASURE CENTER
OF YOUR BRAIN. YOU CAN TAP IT ALL DAY LONG AND YOU
WILL BE AMICK ADDICT. WHAT WE WANT FOR BETTER
HAPPINESS IS ENJOYMENT . IT TAKES THE SOURCE OF PLEASURE
ANNOUNCE TWO THINGS. PEOPLE AND MEMORY. SAUCE, TAKEN EXPERIENCED A
PLEASURE AND MOVING IT
TO THE MOST HUMAN PART OF THE
BRAIN. THE EXECUTIVE CENTER AND PRE-FOCAL CORTEX WHERE
YOU CAN REMEMBER IT AND HAVE IT BE PART OF YOUR
PERMANENT HAPPINESS. ONE OF THE WAYS I URGE PEOPLE TO
REMEMBER THIS IS IF SOMETHING CAN GIVE YOU
PLEASURE AND IT IS ADDICTIVE, WHICH MANY
PLEASURABLE THINGS ARE, DO NOT DO IT ALONE. THAT IS
THE RULE OF THUMB . IF YOU ARE DOING IT ALONE, IT IS
A PROBLEM. THAT IS THE PURSUIT OF PLEASURE. THE
BU
DWEISER - ANHEUSER-BUSCH , THEY DO
NOT RUN MARSHALS OF A GUY POUNDING
ATUL BACK ALONE IN HIS APARTMENT. MANY PEOPLE USE
THE PRODUCT THAT WAY. THAT IS A BAD WAY TO USE THE
PRODUCT. THEY HAVE THE SAME GUY OPENING UP A BEER WITH
HIS FRIENDS AND BROTHER. AND TAPPING THE BOTTLES TOGETHER
. WHAT IS HE DOING? BEER PLUS PEOPLE PLUS MEMORY
EQUALS ENJOYMENT. THAT IS PART OF HAPPINESS.
>> I WANT TO GET TO THE OTHER COMPONENTS OF THIS. IS
THE CLAIM YOU ARE MAKING A CLAIM
ROOTED IN SCIENCE OR A CLAIM ROOTED IN MORAL
CODE. I COULD IMAGINE SOMEBODY
SAYING, IF IT MAKES YOU HAPPY, WHAT IS THE
DIFFERENCE? IF YOU CAN TAP THE PLEASURE CENTER OF YOUR
BRAIN AND BE HAPPY-SO THAT WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE
ANYWAY. WHAT IS THE BASIS ON WHICH YOU ARE JUDGING
THAT TO NOT BE GENUINE HAPPINESS? OR, WORTHY OF
PURSUIT . >> ENTIRELY BASED ON SCIENCE
I HAVE MORAL CODES . THIS IS A S
CIENTIFIC
CLAIM . THERE IS NO HISTORY THE
EVER SAID MY SECRET HAPPINESS IS METHAMPHETAMINE.
NOBODY SAID THAT. THE REASON IS BECAUSE ALL IT DOES IS
TAP THE VENTRAL TECHNICAL AREA OF THE BRAIN OVER AND
OVER AGAIN. IT SUBJUGATE YOU AND IS A TYRANNY. TO BE HAPPIER YOU NEED
SOURCES OF PLEASURE IN YOUR LIFE AND YOU NEED TO
EXPERIENCE THEM IN CONDUCTION WITH LOVE, RELATIONSHIPS AND
MAKING MEMORIES SO THAT THEY ARE MEDIATED BY THE
PREFRONT
AL CORTEX. >> IF SOMETHING WANTS TO
SPEND THE TIME GAMING AND THEIR PARENTS BASEMENT AND
THAT IS WHAT I SAID HAPPY, DO WE NOT BELIEVE THAT
>> PEOPLE PLUS MEMORY. GAMING, PLUS MONEY -- PLUS
PEOPLE AND MEMORY.
>> THEY DO IT ONLINE AND THEY NEVER GET MARRIED
OR MEET ANYBODY. THEY ARE IN THE BASEMENT AND MOM IS
BRINGING THEM TV DINNERS. ARE THEY HAPPY?
>> THE PROBLEM IS BOMB. [ LAUGHTER ] -- MOM. THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS
TO UN
DERSTAND WHAT THOSE PEOPLE NEED TO DO GETS US
INTO THE SECOND AND THIRD COMPONENTS OF HAPPINESS. IT
IS NOT JUST ENJOYMENT EITHER. YOU CANNOT LEAD A
LIFE OF PURE ENJOYMENT . ENJOYMENT IS FINE, BUT IT
WILL LEAVE YOU EMPTY. YOU NEED SATISFACTION . YOU NEED
MEANING MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE. DO YOU WANT TO TALK
ABOUT THOSE? >> YEAH, I DO. WHEN YOU
TALK ABOUT MEANING , AGAIN I IMAGINE THERE IS PLURALISM
IN TERMS OF WHAT CAN GIVE SOMEBO
DY MEANING . WHAT DO
YOU MEAN WE TALK ABOUT MEANING?
>> BOTH PHILOSOPHERS AND
PSYCHOLOGISTS HAVE SEEN THIS IN THE SAME WAY. WE TALK
ABOUT WHAT IS THE SECRET OF
MEANING OF LIFE. WHAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE? IT IS
AN ESSENTIAL QUESTION BECAUSE IT IS SO BROAD. I WILL GO
TO THE HIMALAYAS AND WILL SIT IN FRONT OF A CAVE AND
I WILL ASK THE GROUP, WHAT IS THE MEANING OF LIFE? HE
WILL TELL ME A WORD OR ILLUMINATING PHRASE AND ALL
W
ILL BE WELL. MEANING IN LIFE HAS THREE PARTS TO
IT. IT IS REALLY THREE QUESTIONS. MEANING IS ABOUT
COHERENCE . WHY DO THINGS HAPPEN THE WAY THAT THEY DO
PURPOSE . PURPOSE, WHAT IS MY DIRECTION AND GOALS? AND,
SIGNIFICANCE. WHY DOES IT MATTER THAT I AM ALIVE?
THOSE ARE THE THREE PARTS OF MEANING. IN MY WORK , I
HAVE CREATED A QUIZ TO SEE WHETHER OR NOT SOMEBODY HAS
MEANING CRISIS IN THEIR LIFE TWO QUESTIONS . THE WAY TO
PASS THE
EXAM IS ANSWERS TO THE QUESTION. DO YOU WANT
TO DO THE QUIZ? >> DO YOU WANT ME TO DO
THE QUIZ >> IT DEPENDS ON YOU. I DO
NOT MIND. >> I WILL GIVE YOU A QUIZ.
HAVING ANSWERS IS A PASSING GRADE. NOT HAVING ANSWERS OR
NOT HAVING REAL ANSWERS IS A FAILING GRADE. THAT IS
GOOD NEWS BY THE WAY. IF YOU DO NOT PASS, YOU KNOW
WHAT TO LOOK FOR, WHICH IS REALLY IMPORTANT. QUESTION
ONE . WHY ARE YOU ALIVE ERIC ?
>> BECAUSE MY PARENTS
IN 1975-
>> EGG AND SPERM. NO . NOTHING BIOLOGICAL. WHY ARE
YOU ALIVE COSMICALLY AND METAPHYSICALLY?
>> I MUSLIM . MY ANSWER TO THE QUESTION
IS INSPIRED BY MY RELIGIOUS BELIEFS.
>> GOD MADE YOU . >> BECAUSE GOD MADE ME AND
MY ROLE IS TO BE A VIRTUOUS PERSON TO SERVE MY
FELLOW MAN. LEAVE THIS PLANET BETTER THAN I FOUND
IT. >> VERY SOLID. GOD MADE ME
A SOLID ANSWER. SECOND QUESTION . FOR WHAT WOULD YOU BE
WILLING TO GIVE YOUR LIFE
ON THIS DAY?
>> ON THIS DAY, MY FAMILY. >> ANYTHING ELSE? >> I WOULD BE WILLING TO
GIVE MY LIFE FOR THIS COUNTRY.
>> FOR THE KENNEDY SCHOOL X >> NO . [ LAUGHTER ] THERE WAS A TIME I WOULD'VE
ANSWERED YES. >> NOW HE IS TENURE AND
WHAT DO YOU DO. EXCELLENCE . HERE IS THE POINT. YOU FIND
LOTS OF PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE ANSWERS THAT THEY FIND
BELIEVABLE TO THE QUESTIONS. THAT IS GOOD . THAT IS
REALLY GOOD NEWS BECAUSE THESE ARE THE
THINGS TO GO LOOKING FOR. WHEN YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO
LOOK FOR, YOU ARE HALFWAY THERE. I HAVE TESTED MY OWN
ADULT CHILDREN WITH THIS IN MY ADULT CHILDREN HOW TO
ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. IT IS SUPER FUN TO BE MY SON
OR DAUGHTER. I HAVE THREE , 25, 23 AND 20. MY
25-YEAR-OLD AND 20 ARE SUPER SERIOUS STUDENTS TO. A
23-YEAR-OLD IS NOT A SERIOUS STUDENT. BARELY MADE IT
THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL . BARELY MADE IT THROUGH HIGH SCHOOL.
HE WAS
NOT EVEN HAVING FUN. HE DID NOT HAVE ANSWERS TO
THE QUESTION . WHAT WILL YOU DO TO FIND
ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS? MY KIDS HAVE TO WRITE A
BUSINESS PLAN IN THEIR SENIOR YEAR OF HIGH SCHOOL.
I TOLD YOU, IT IS NOT FUN. HE WROTE- MY SON CARLOS
WROTE A BUSINESS PLAN IN HIGH SCHOOL. I WILL GO
TO COLLEGE. I SAID, NO YOU ARE NOT. YOU ARE ROLLING ME
. I KNOW YOU WERE NOT GOING TO BECAUSE I AM
CARLOS. I WENT TO COLLEGE WHEN I WAS
NOT READY AND I
GOT BOUNCED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. I WENT OUT AND
LIVED MY LIFE. I DID SOMETHING THAT WAS
IMPORTANT AND CREATED VALUE AND I UNDERSTOOD WHO I WAS
. I MOVED TO SPAIN FOR A LONG TIME AND I MET MY
WIFE AND GOT MARRIED. THAT IS WHERE I STARTED MY LIFE.
I HAD TO DO THOSE THINGS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO?
HOW DO YOU FIND THE ANSWER ? HE CAME TO THE PART THAT
WAS COMPELLING, OR HE WOULD FIND ANSWERS TO HIS
QUESTION
S. HE WANTED TO WORK ON A FARM IN IDAHO
FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS. IT WAS A REAL THING ABOUT A
HOBBY THING. HE WAS MENDING FENCES AND PULLING ROCKS OUT
OF THE SOIL MAKING NINE DOLLARS PER HOUR. THEN, HE
JOINED THE MARINES . AT 19 HE JOINED THE MARINE CORPS.
IT WAS A MORTAR MAN AND THEN A SCOUT SNIPER . IT
WAS A SCARY JOB FOR ME AND IS ONE . NOT FOR HIM. HE
GOT THE BLOW STUFF UP AND THE BEST THING EVER. FOR ME
, I CANNOT.
HIS PHONE. WHERE IS CARLOS? HE IS ON
A FIELD TRIP. I DO NOT KNOW . NOW, HE IS 23 AND
TWO MONTHS OUT OF THEM IN COURT. IS ASSISTANT
SUPERINTENDENT AT A CONSTRUCTION COMPANY. HE IS
MARRIED, HIS WIFE IS PREGNANT AND HE IS ANSWERS
TO HIS QUESTIONS. I AM ALIVE BECAUSE GOD MADE ME
TO SERVE THE SAME ANSWER AS YOURS. I WOULD GIVE MY LIFE
ON THIS DAY FOR MY FAITH, MY FAMILY , FOR MY FELLOW
MARINES AND THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.
BOOM ,
THAT POINT IS HAPPY. THESE ARE NOT
YOUR ANSWERS NECESSARILY . THAT IS NOT THE POINT. THEY
ARE NOT MY ANSWERS NECESSARILY. I SAW THAT AND
IT WAS TRANSFORMATIONAL. HE IS A DIFFERENT PERSON THAN
HE WAS WHEN HE WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL. IS BECAUSE HE FOUND
THE ANSWERS TO THOSE QUESTIONS. IT IS ILLUMINATING
TO THE SOUL. >> DO YOU THINK THAT WE AS
A COUNTRY ARE LESS ABLE TO FIND THOSE ANSWERS? DO YOU
THINK PEOPLE OF OUR PARENTS' GENE
RATION HAD MORE READY ACCESS TO THOSE
ANSWERS IN OUR GENERATION DOES AND ARE CHILDREN ABOUT
STRESS GENERATION? >> YES, ABSOLUTELY. I FIND
PEOPLE ARE RUTHLESS. THEY ARE NOT ENCOURAGED TO THINK
ABOUT WHAT THEY WOULD GIVE THEIR LIFE FOR. I THINK WE
ARE ENCOURAGED TO THINK THAT MY LIFE AND ME, ME AND THE
SACRED DRAMA OF ORDINARY LIFE IS THE MOST SUPPORTIVE
THING. IT IS A BIG ONE, QUITE FRANKLY. EVERY SINGLE
ONE OF US WILL BE CALLED TO
GIVE OUR LIVES. I WOULD
GIVE MY LIFE TO NOT BE ABLE TO HANG ON FOR ONE
MORE SINGLE SECOND GIVEN MEDICAL SCIENCE. THAT IS NOT
GOOD. THAT IS NOT THE BEST I WILL PROBABLY NEVER BE
CALLED TO GIVE MY LIFE FOR A PARTICULAR CAUSE. MAN, I
WANT TO KNOW WHAT IT IS. THAT INFORMATION IS
ILLUMINATING ABOUT WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS TO BE A
PERSON. ONE OF THE GREAT REASONS THE UNITED STATES
HAS BEEN IN A SECULAR HAPPINESS CLIENT FOR THE
PAST 30 YEARS IS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE LESS LIKELY TO
KNOW THE MEANING OF THEIR LIVES.
>> WHAT HAPPENED TO GET US TO THAT STATE?
WHY ARE WE LESS LIKELY TO KNOW THE MEANING OF OUR
LIVES NOW THAN WE WERE 20, 30, 40, 50 YEARS AGO?
>> THE ANSWER IS THE WAY WE FIND IT ANSWERS TO THOSE
QUESTIONS HAS TO DO WITH THE INSTITUTIONS OF
MEANING. THE INSTITUTIONS OF MEANING ARE TIME AND
MEMORIAL. NOT AMERICAN INVENTIONS . WE FIND IN THE
SCIE
NCE OF HAPPINESS IS THE HAPPIEST PEOPLE HAVE HABITS.
THIS IS WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING. I COULD GIVE YOU
1000 HABITS UNTIL YOU WHETHER OR NOT BUCKLEY OR
ASPARAGUS MY HAPPINESS , BUT IT WOULD BE MARGINAL AND
TRIVIAL AT BEST. WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
ARE THE BIGGIES? WHAT IS THE HAPPINESS 401(K) PLAN ?
WHAT ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO INVEST IN EVERY DAY .
EACH ONE OF US, THAT WILL BE THE INSTITUTIONS OF
MEANING SUCH THAT WE KNOW
THE ANSWERS TO THESE
QUESTIONS? WE KNOW WHAT THOSE HABITS ARE. THEY
HABITS ARE VERY SIMPLE. THERE ARE ONLY FOUR THESE
ARE THE THINGS, THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM, PEOPLE
INVEST IN THEM EVERY DAY WHO ARE THE HAPPIEST ABLE
HAPPINESS IS 25% UNDER YOUR DIRECT CONTROL . THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT
SYSTEMATICALLY IMPROVE YOUR CIRCUMSTANCES. THEY HELP YOU
TO AFFECT THE GENETICS OF YOUR HAPPINESS , WHICH DAY
BY DAY IS ABOUT 50% OF YOUR MOOD
. THOSE OF THE
FOUR HAPPINESS HABITS . I AM GIVING A BUILDUP AND MIGHT
AS WELL TELL YOU WHAT THE HABITS ARE. FAITH, FAMILY,
FRIENDSHIP , WORK. THOSE OF THE FOUR HABITS. THAT COULD
BE MISINTERPRETED. YOU COULD MISINTERPRET THAT AS ME
SAYING, MY CATHOLIC FAITH . WHICH BRINGS ME TO MY
POINT. THERE IS A PRESSURE UNDER ALL YOUR SEATS-I AM
KIDDING. [ LAUGHTER ] GROUPS -- WHERE DID THEY GO ? WHEN I SAY FAITH , IT IS
A HANDY WAY FOR
ME TO TALK
ABOUT TRANSCENDENCE. TRANSCENDENCE IS A FOCUS ON
THINGS BIGGER THAN OUR EVERYDAY LIVES. YOU ARE NOT
WIRED, NONE OF US IS WIRED -SPENCER MOTHER NATURE DOES
NOT WANT US TO THINK ABOUT SOMETHING OUTSIDE THE
INDIVIDUAL PSYCHODRAMA. WE ARE REVOLVED TO BE FOCUSED
ON ME, ME, ME . MY LUNCH. MY JOB. MY CLASS. MY
COMMUTE. MY SANDWICH. MY MONEY. ME . IT
IS JUST SO BORING . IT IS JUST SO TEDIOUS AND YET,
YOU CANNOT STOP GET ABOUT
IT . UNLESS YOU ZOOM OUT
AND GET SMALL MY FRIEND DECKER
WHO TEACHES AT BERKELEY IS ONE OF THE GREAT HAPPINESS
EXPERTS. HE HAS A BOOK CALLED " A WE " AND IT IS ABOUT ZOOMING OUT ON
LIFE AND MARVELING AT SOMETHING. YOU NEED A SYSTEM
FOR DOING THAT DAY BY DAY, EVERY DAY. FOR SOME PEOPLE
THAT IS STUDYING HISTORIC
PHOSPHORS . THE WAY I TALK ABOUT HAPPINESS AS YOU
POINTED OUT IS PRETTY STOIC IN THE CLASSICAL SENSE. SOME
PEOPLE
PREFER TO WALK IN NATURE FOR DON
WITHOUT DEVICES EACH DAY . WITHOUT DEVICES IS IMPORTANT.
SOME PEOPLE ANALYZE THE FUMES OF JOHANN SEBASTIAN
BACH AND MARVEL AT THAT. SOME PEOPLE HAVE A
TRADITIONAL MEDITATION PRACTICE . POSITIVE MEDITATION
TO BETTER COGNITIVELY UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF
YOUR LIFE. SOME PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND ME PRACTICE THE
FAITH OF OUR YOUTH. YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. YOU
HAVE TO GO HAVE A PRACTICE YOU GET LITTLE . IF YOU
ARE
TOO BIG, YOU WILL BE MISERABLE IS THE BOTTOM
LINE. THAT IS NUMBER ONE. SECOND IS FAMILY. WHICH IS
THE MYSTICAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT ARE MOST INTENSE AND
THAT YOU DID NOT CHOOSE . AND THAT GOD KNOWS YOU
WOULD NOT HAVE CHOSEN IN 70 CASES. -- SO MANY CASES . ONE IN SIX AMERICANS IS
NOT TALKING TO A FAMILY MEMBER BECAUSE OF POLITICS
TODAY. THAT IS INSANITY. WHY? WE ARE BEING BULLIED
AND COURSED INTO HATING PEOPLE IN OUR OWN F
AMILIES
AT THE BEHEST OF SOMEBODY ON TELEVISION. IT IS
CRAZINESS. THERE IS ONE REASON FOR SCHISM IN THE
FAMILY AND THAT IS ABUSE. DIFFERENCE IN POLITICAL
OPINION IS NOT ABUSE. THE OTHER THING WORTH POINTING
OUT . THEY COME BACK FROM THINGS GIVING BREAK AND THEY
SAY, HR MARGE . SHE WOULD NOT STOP TALKING ABOUT
TRUMPET OR WHATEVER. I GOT IT. YOU DO NOT SEE EYE TO
EYE WITH YOUR OUT. IF YOU HAVE A PROBLEM AND
YOU CALL MARGE AT 3:
00 AM, WHICH YOU PICK UP?
>> YES. >> THAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO
KNOW. WHO WILL TAKE THE 3:00 AM PHONE CALL. THE PERSON MYSTICALLY RELATED TO
YOU FOR REASONS YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND IT SHE DOES NOT
UNDERSTAND. YOU MUST NOT LOSE THAT. THAT IS NUMBER
TWO. THIRD IS FRIENDSHIP. I WORK WITH LEADERS ALL THE
TIME . THE CENTER OF PUBLIC LEADERSHIP, IT IS WHAT WE
DO . AT THE PRIVILEGE OF WORKING WITH POLITICAL AND
BUSINESS LEADERS TO. THEIR
THE LONELIEST PEOPLE I HAVE
EVER MET. THEY ARE LONELY PEOPLE AND PART OF A
LONELINESS EPIDEMIC. THEY ARE SURROUNDED BY PEOPLE ALL DAY
LONG. THEY ARE LIKE, I DON'T KNOW. I DO NOT
CONNECT. I HAVE LOTS OF FRIENDS I SAY, REAL FRIENDS
OR DEAL FRIENDS? EVERY ONE OF US KNOWS THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN REAL AND DALE. THAT IS THE REAL R AND D THAT
MATTERS. YOU NEED MORE REAL AND NOT SO MANY DEALS IN
YOUR LIFE. A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE HAVE
A GROW -- GREAT GROUP OF PEOPLE FROM ALL
OVER HARVARD. WE ARE PRIVILEGED TO MOVE INTO
SIGNIFICANT LEADERSHIP POSITIONS. BUT THE DOWNSIDE
OF THAT IS THAT WE WILL BE ISOLATED AND LONELY. THAT IS
JUST THE NATURE OF THE GAME . IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS
I TALK ABOUT WITH MY CLASS AT THE SCHOOL. IS CALLED
LEADERSHIP AND HAPPINESS. WE TALK ABOUT WHY LEADERS ARE
LONELY. WE CAN TALK ABOUT THAT IF
WE WANT. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THEY ARE.
THE HYGIENE OF
HAPPINESS REQUIRES YET MORE REAL AND LESS DEALS AND HE
CANNOT LEAVE IT UP TO CHANCE. YOU HAVE TO DO THE
WORK. LAST IS WORK. WORK HAS TWO PARTS THAT MATTER.
IT IS NOT MONEY AND IS NOT POSITIONED . IT IS NOT
TITLE OR POWER. IT IS NOT ABOVE OR BELOW AVERAGE
INCOME . IT IS NOT HAVING A DEGREE FROM THE KENNEDY
SCHOOL, LEAVE IT OR NOT. IT IS THE BELIEF YOU ARE
EARNING YOUR SUCCESS IN THE BELIEF YOU ARE SERVING OT
HER
PEOPLE . THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS THAT WILL
SIGNIFICANTLY INFLECT THE JOCUS YOU GET IN YOUR WORK
AND WILL GIVE YOU SIGNIFICANT AND ONGOING JOCUS
FROM YOUR JOB. EARNED SUCCESS MEANS YOU
BELIEVE IN CREATING VALUE WITH YOUR LIFE AND IS
RECOMMENDED AND ACKNOWLEDGED. VERY IMPORTANT. THAT IS WHY
LEADERS IN THE WORKPLACE ARE CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IF
YOU ARE BEAVERING AWAY IN OBSCURITY , IT WILL BE TO
STOP SWEATING -- UNSATISFYING TO YOU. IT
IS ONE OF THE THINGS I THOUGHT
WITH HER -- BUT SERVANTS I DID A THING FOR THOUSAND
MEMBERS OF THE STATE DEPARTMENT ON FRIDAY THIS IS
WHAT I WAS FOCUSING ON . THEY NEED TO EARN THEIR
SUCCESS. YOU CANNOT DO IT WITH MONEY. HOW ARE YOU
GOING TO DO IT? THE SECOND IS SERVICE TO OTHER PEOPLE.
PEOPLE ARE MADE TO LOVE . PEOPLE ARE MADE TO SERVE.
ONLY WHEN THEY CAN SEE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE SERVING
AND UNDERSTAND THE VALUE THEY AR
E CREATING IN OTHER
PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THEY ARE LETTING OTHER PEOPLE UP AND
LIGHTENING THE LOAD FOR SOMEBODY. YOU AND ME, IT IS
FRUSTRATING SOMETIMES WHAT WE DO FOR A LIVING. WHEN YOU
TALK TO A STUDENT WHO HAS BEEN TOUCHED BY WHAT
HAPPENED AND THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ,
IT HAS LIGHTENED THEIR LOAD IN SOME WAY. IT IS
COMPLETELY SATISFYING AND YOU LOVE YOUR JOB ON THAT DAY .
THOSE OF THE TRUE FORMS OF COMPENSATION.
>> IT IS EXTRAORDINARY. WHAT DO YOU SAY - I WANT TO
TOUCH ON EACH OF THESE. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO SOMEONE
WHO SAYS I HAVE A VERY STRONG SENSE OF WHAT MY
LIFE IS ABOUT. I HAVE A VERY STRONG SENSE OF THE
JUSTICE I WANT TO SEE IN THE WORLD ET CETERA. AND HR
MARGE DOES NOT BELIEVE THE THINGS I BELIEVE I CANNOT
OVERLOOK IT JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE A FAMILIAL CONNECTION . >> YOU DON'T HAVE TO
OVERLOOK IT. YOU CAN LOVE SOMEBODY WITHO
UT OVERLOOKING
IT . YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PRETEND SOMETHING IS NOT
THERE TO LOVE ANOTHER PERSON. I GREW UP IN A
FAMILY WHERE I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS LYRICALLY THE
WAY THAT I DO. THEY THOUGHT I WAS DROPPED ON MY HEAD A
LOT OR SOMETHING. GREW UP IN SEATTLE, WASHINGTON . MY
FATHER IS A PROFESSOR AND MY MOTHER WAS AN ARTIST.
WHAT DO YOU THINK THEIR POLITICS ARE OR WERE? THOSE
WERE NOT MY POLITICS I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO IS L
IKE
HOORAY CAPITALISM. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HIM? ONE TIME I
WAS EXPERIMENTING WITH DANGEROUS FREE ENTERPRISE
IDEAS IN MY 20s. I WAS BACK IN SEATTLE COOKING
DINNER WITH MY MOM . IT WAS CHRISTMAS TIME . WE WERE IN
THE KITCHEN ALONE. SHE WAS REALLY QUIET WHICH MADE ME
A COMFORTABLE. IF YOU KNOW MY MOM, YOU WOULD KNOW THAT
WAS NOT RIGHT I SAID MOM, IS SOMETHING ON YOUR MIND?
SHE SAYS, YES. YOUR FATHER AND I WE ARE WORRIED ABOUT
YOUR.
I WANT YOU TO TELL ME THE TRUTH. I WILL LOVE
YOU EITHER WAY . HAVE YOU BEEN VOTING FOR REPUBLICANS?
[ LAUGHTER ] YOU GET THE IDEA. THEY WERE GREAT
PARENTS. THEY TAUGHT ME THAT WE ARE ALL EQUAL DIGNITY .
NO EXCEPTIONS . WE ARE ALL SISTERS AND
BROTHERS. EVERYTHING I KNOW, I GOT FROM THEM. ALL OF
THE THINGS I LOVE, I GOT FROM THEM. THEY WERE GREAT
PARENTS. BY THE WAY, THEY WERE RIGHT
ABOUT A LOT OF STUFF LYRICALLY I JUST DO
NOT
KNOW WHAT YET. THIS IS THE THING . I AM TRYING TO
EXPAND MY OWN MIND CONSTANTLY. I AM SURE I AM
WRONG WITH ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT THEY WERE RIGHT
ABOUT. THAT IS NOT THE POINT. I LOVE THEM AND I
SEE THE WORLD DIFFERENTLY. WHO CARES? IT MADE FOR
INTERESTING DINNER TIME CONVERSATIONS.
>> I WANT HAVE TIME FOR QUESTIONS. THE FOURTH HABIT,
THE HABIT OF WORK. WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO
SOMEBODY WHO SAYS, I AM GENUINELY ON BOARD WI
TH THE
FRAMEWORK HERE WE ARE TRYING TO ACHIEVE. ENJOYMENT,
SATISFACTION AND MEANING. MAY BE THE WAY TO DO THAT IS
TO LOOK AT WORK AS A VERY SMALL PART OF YOUR LIFE
THAT ENSURES YOU ARE ABLE TO AFFORD THE NECESSITIES OF
LIFE. AND YOU DERIVE THOSE THINGS , ENJOYMENT,
SATISFACTION AND MEANING FROM THE FRIENDS, FAMILY AND
FAITH. IS THAT AN INCOMPLETE LIFE?
>> IT IS UNNECESSARILY INCOMPLETE LIFE. THE TRUTH
IS, NOT EVERYBODY HAS TO GO
BE A SUCCESS, ADDICTED,
SELF-JUSTIFYING WORKAHOLIC . I AM LOOKING AT YOU. I AM
LOOKING AT ME. THIS IS WHAT WE DO. I DO NOT RECOMMEND
THAT . YOU NEED A BALANCED LIFE LOTS OF PEOPLE
DO NOT LIVE TO WORK. WORK TO LIVE. YOU NEED TO EARN
YOUR SUCCESS AND YOU NEED TO SERVE OTHER
PEOPLE THROUGH THAT. IS DOING A TELEVISION SHOW THE
OTHER DAY. I WAS WORKING WITH A LIVE STUDIO AUDIENCE
ON A TELEVISION SHOW . ONE OF THE PEOPLE STOOD UP A
ND
SAID, I AM FRUSTRATED WITH MY WORK . I WORK 40 HOURS
PER WEEK. I SIT IN A CUBICLE . I DO
NOT MIGHT WORK MATTERS . I AM A COG IN THE
MACHINE AND IT DOES NOT MATTER . I AM WORKING FOR
THIS COMPANY AND THEY DO NOT KNOW I EXIST. WHAT
SHOULD I DO THE ANSWER I GAVE IS, AT 2:00 TOMORROW
AFTERNOON GO TO THE BREAK ROOM AND GET A COUPLE
COFFEE AND BRING IT TO THE PERSON IN THE NEXT CUBICLE
AND SAY, YOU LOOK LIKE YOU COULD U
SE A FRESH CUP OF
COFFEE. AND LOOK AT THE LOOK ON THEIR FACE. IT IS NOT A COMPLETE ANSWER
TO EVERYTHING WRONG IN EVERY JOB, BUT THE TRUTH OF THE
MATTER IS EVERYBODY CAN LIGHTEN SOMEBODY'S LOAD OVER
THE COURSE OF WHAT WE ARE DOING. THAT IS INCREDIBLY
IMPORTANT , WHETHER YOU ARE WORKING FOR MONEY OR TAKING
CARE OF YOUR CHILDREN AT HOME. OR, VOLUNTEERING AND
RETIRED . YOU CAN DO THAT AND ENDOW THIS THING YOU
ARE DOING WITH INCREDI
BLE SIGNIFICANCE BY MAKING IT
FOCUS ON SOMEBODY ELSE. >> WE COULD TALK SO MUCH
MORE ABOUT THIS. I WANT TO PULL ON THE
THREAD YOU INTRODUCED A LITTLE BIT EARLIER . ABOUT
THE STATE OF HAPPINESS IN AMERICA AND- I UNDERSTAND
FROM WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT HAPPINESS
IN AMERICA IS AT A LOW RATE. PRESUMABLY, IT IS
BECAUSE SOME OF THESE HABITS HAVE DECLINED. I GUESS THE
QUESTION IS, WHAT CAN WE DO ? IS THE ANSWER THAT
EVERYBODY NEEDS
TO READ THIS BOOK? IS THERE INSTITUTIONAL
CHANGE? >> IS ALL ABOUT THE BOOK
FOLKS. SOMEONE ASKED ME THE OTHER
DAY, WHAT DID YOU LEARN FROM OPRAH WINFREY? THE
ANSWER WAS HOW TO SELL BOOKS. THAT IS NOT TRUE.
SORRY . SORT OF. THE DATA IS AN AMBIGUOUS
AND DISCOURAGING ABOUT HAPPINESS
IN AMERICA . WE FOUND HAPPINESS STARTED TO DECLINE
IN 1990. THE GENERAL LEVEL. IT HAS INCHED DOWNWARD FOR
THE PAST 30 YEARS . 34 YEARS AT THIS POINT. WI
TH
PERIODIC DOWN BLASTS . NEVER UP LAST . ALWAYS DOWN
BLASTS. ACCLIMATE PROBLEM AND THE WEATHER PROBLEM IS
WHAT WE HAVE FOR HAPPINESS. THE CLIMATE HAS TO DO WITH
THE FACT THAT ALL FOUR HAPPINESS HABITS
ARE IN DECLINE. FAITH, FAMILY, FRIENDS AND WORK.
THE ATTITUDES WE HAVE TOWARD WORK. THE LIKELIHOOD OF
PEOPLE BEING RELIGIOUS, SPIRITUAL OR EVEN VAGUELY
PHILOSOPHICAL ARE IN DECLINE. FAMILY LIFE IS IN DRAMATIC
DECLINE FOR THE THINGS I T
ALKED ABOUT EARLIER ALSO
THE FACT THAT FAMILY FORMATION IS GOING
SOUTH IN A VERY FAST AND BIG WAY. PEOPLE HAVE FEWER
FRIENDS. YOU ARE THREE TIMES AS LIKELY TO SAY NOBODY
KNOWS ME WELL . WE HAVE A HAPPINESS EPIDEMIC. SURGEON
GENERAL SAYS IT IS THE BIGGEST PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS
IN AMERICA. IT IS THE LONELINESS EPIDEMIC. AND WE
CAN TURN THESE THINGS AROUND, WE HAD TO
PAY ATTENTION TO THESE THINGS . AS LEADERS, WE NEED
TO BE TALKING
ABOUT THESE THINGS . WE NEED TO BE
PRACTICING THESE THINGS IN OUR OWN
LIVES AND SHARING OUR BEST PRACTICES WITH OTHER PEOPLE
WITH CONFIDENCE AND JOCUS AND LOVE. OF COURSE, THERE
ARE THE STORMS. THE WEATHER PROBLEM OF HAPPINESS. 2008 AND 2009, A MAJOR DOWNDRAFT
IN HAPPINESS AN INCREASE IN ANXIETY AND DEPRESSION. AT
FIRST I THOUGHT IT WAS THE FINANCIAL CRISIS. PEOPLE
COMING OUT OF COLLEGE AND CANNOT FIND JOBS THAT WAS
WRONG . THAT I
S WHEN SOCIAL MEDIA WENT ON THE DEVICES .
THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. WAS ESPECIALLY ACUTE FOR WOMEN
AND GIRLS BETWEEN 15 AND 25 . NOW, IT IS SPREADING
THROUGHOUT THE POPULATION THAT WE SEE THE PROBLEMS
THAT COME FROM THE ISOLATION. WE KNOW THE
NEUROPHYSIOLOGY ABOUT WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. WE KNOW
THE NEURAL PEPTIDE OF OXYTOCIN IS WILLFULLY --
WOEFULLY INSUFFICIENT WHEN USE OF THE TWO SOCIAL MEDIA
RELATIONSHIPS FOR IN PERSON . EYE CONTACT
AND TOUCH. THAT
WAS THE FIRST STORM. THE SECOND STORM THAT WE OFTEN
HEAR ABOUT IS THE CORONOAVIRUS . WE FOUND
SIX MONTHS INTO LOCKDOWN , WHICH WAS TERRIBLE FOR 93%
OF THE OPERATION 7% THOUGHT IT WAS OKAY . DOGS HATED IT
AND CATS LOVED IT OR SOMETHING. IT WAS PRETTY GRIM FOR MOST
PEOPLE. SIX MONTHS INTO LOCKDOWN'S SENTENCE OF
CLINICAL DEPRESSION, IDENTIFIABLE DIAGNOSED
DEPRESSION , WAS QUALIFIED BOTH . THEY HAVE NOT FALLEN.
A LOT OF PE
OPLE NOT GOTTEN SOCIAL CHOPS BACK. A
LOT OF PEOPLE HAD NOT GONE BACK. A LOT OF PEOPLE MADE
DECISIONS THAT PERMANENTLY DETACHED THEM FROM
RELATIONSHIPS THEY HAVE IN THEIR LIFE IT HAS TO DO
WITH OXYTOCIN AND THE BASIS OF CONNECTION WITH OTHER
HUMAN BEINGS. THE THIRD, WHICH HAS BEEN THE WEATHER
PATTERN THAT HAS PERSISTED FOR 10 YEARS IS POLITICS,
QUITE FRANKLY . WE HAVE BEEN INCREASINGLY ENCOURAGED BY
LEADERS IN THIS COUNTRY THAT WE N
EED TO NOT JUST
DISAGREE WITH, BUT TO HATE PEOPLE THAT DISAGREE WITH US
LEADERS OF POLITICS LEADERS IN MEDIA AND LEADERS ON
CAMPUS. TELLING PEOPLE THEY SHOULD HATE AND CANCEL AND
AVOID AND CAST OUT PEOPLE THAT DISAGREE WITH THEM
POLITICALLY THAT IS INSANITY. THE BUDDHA SAID WHEN YOU
HATE SOMEBODY IT IS LIKE PICKING UP A HOT COAL WITH
YOUR BARE HANDS TO THROW AT ANOTHER PERSON. WHO GETS
BURNED WORSE? IT IS EMPIRICAL IRREGULARITY .
THE
MORE YOU HATE OR ARE ENCOURAGED TO HATE BY THE
MALIGNANT IS ASSISTING LEADERS IN OUR SOCIETY
TODAY, YOU ARE THERE PRODUCT. ANYBODY ON YOUR
SIDE ENCOURAGING YOU TO HATE IS USING YOU AND PROFITING
FROM YOU ON THIS CAMPUS . OR, IN
WASHINGTON D.C. OR ANYPLACE ELSE. I WILL SAY TO ANYBODY
AT THIS POINT . WE NEED TO GET OUR WORLD BACK WE ARE
THE ONLY ONES THAT WILL GET IT STANDING UP TO THE
MALIGNANT BULLYING NARCISSISTS ON OUR
SIDE, WHATEVER OUR
SITE HAPPENS TO BE. >> THAT IS DEPRESSING IN THAT YOU ARE RIGHT. THERE SEEM TO BE MORE OF
THESE TYPES OF PERSONALITIES THEN THERE WERE. IT FEELS
LIKE WE ARE MORE SUSCEPTIBLE TO THEM BECAUSE OF THE
CLIMATE PROBLEM. BECAUSE OF THE DECLINE OF FAITH,
FAMILY, FRIENDS AND WORK. I DO NOT KNOW THAT I COULD
EXPLAIN WHY YOU THINK THOSE THINGS HAVE DECLINED.
>> WE HAVE FOUND AS AN EMPIRICAL IRREGULARITY
THEY HAVE BEEN
IN DECLINE. >> WHAT CAUSED THAT?
>> IT IS A CONTESTED QUESTION. IT IS A MYSTERY
FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE IN OUR CULTURE IS SYSTEMATICALLY
DENIGRATING FAITH. IT IS DOWNGRADING IT. IT IS THE
WORLDVIEW OF THE IGNORANT, WHICH IS INCREASINGLY THE
CASE FOR TRADITIONAL RELIGIOUS FAITH. WHAT HAPPENS
IS PEOPLE WILL ADOPT COLTS , LIKE POLITICS. POLITICS IS A CULT IN
AMERICA. IS VERY GOOD YOUR SYSTEM OF MEANING AND IN
GROUP IDENTITY AND SENSE OF
MORALITY. YOU GET THE SENSE
OF WHO THE GOOD PEOPLE ARE AND THE BAD PEOPLE ARE.
TAKE THAT INSTEAD UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES. FAMILY LIFE
HAS BEEN UNDER MAINSTREAM CULTURAL ATTACK FOR A LONG
TIME. THE IDEA OF STABLE, HAPPY FAMILIES ON THE BASIS
OF ANY SOCIETY . YOU DO NOT HAVE TO BE POLITICALLY ON
ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER TO RECOGNIZE THAT. AND YET, THE
IDEA THAT IT IS AN ANTIQUATED MODEL FOR THE WAY
SOCIETY SHOULD BE ORGANIZED IS A B
IG PROBLEM FOR
HAPPINESS. FRIENDSHIP , I DON'T KNOW . AGAIN,
FRIENDSHIP IS HOMOGENOUS WITH SOCIAL MEDIA. WHO ARE MY
FRIENDS? I DON'T KNOW, PEOPLE ON FACEBOOK I NEVER
MET. SORRY, NOT FRIENDS IT IS A WORD THAT WAS ADOPTED
BY THE INDUSTRY. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. THAT IS ACTUALLY
NOT TRUE. THE MONEY MEDIATE RELATIONSHIPS
WITHOUT EYE CONTACT AND TOUCH, THE GREATER THE
LONELINESS WILL RISE. ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE PLAUSIBLE,
CULTURAL AND TEC
HNOLOGICAL REASONS FOR THEM THAT WE
SEE. >> I COULD GO ON WITH YOU, BUT I WILL NOT LEAVE THIS
ROOM ALIVE IF I DO NOT ALLOW PEOPLE TO ASK YOU
QUESTIONS. I THINK WE HAVE SOME MICROPHONES. ONE OVER
THERE. ONE UP THERE. LINE YOURSELF UP AT THE
MICROPHONES. I WILL CALL ON YOU AND PLEASE HAVE GOOD
QUESTIONS AND ASK US A BASICALLY AS POSSIBLE .
>> PUT YOUR PROTEST STATEMENT IN THE FORM OF A
QUESTION. >> THE BREVITY FOR WHICH
PEOPLE
ARE FAMOUS THE WORLD OVER.
>> HELLO, I AM LUCY AND A SENIOR AT
THE COLLEGE STUDYING SOCIOLOGY AND HISTORY OF
SCIENCE. THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE. YOU BOTH HAVE
VERY STYLISH SOCKS. >> THANK YOU. >> WHEN YOU WERE DISCUSSING
THE MEANING CRISIS QUIZ YOU MENTIONED TWO WAYS SOMEONE
COULD FAIL. THEY DO NOT HAVE ANSWERS TO THE TWO
QUESTIONS OR THEY DO NOT HAVE REAL ANSWERS TO THE
TWO QUESTIONS. I AM CURIOUS WHAT ARE COMMON EXAMPLES
OF
NOT REAL ANSWERS, OR HOW WE CAN INTERNALLY RECOGNIZE
WHETHER OUR ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS ARE TRULY GENUINE?
>> WHY AM I LIVE? THE BIOLOGICAL ANSWER TO THAT IS
NOT A MEANINGFUL ANSWER TO THAT. AND THAT IS VERY
COMMON. WHY AM I LIVE? AND, BY THE WAY, IT IS AS OLD
AS THE HILLS PHILOSOPHICALLY IT IS THE ESSENCE OF
EXISTENCE CONUNDRUM. FOREVER, THE IDEA WAS YOUR EXISTENCE,
YOUR ESSENCE PRECEDED YOUR EXISTENCE. THE MEANING OF
LIFE
PRECEDED IT AND YOU HAVE TO DISCOVER AND EMBRACE
IT. THE WHOLE WORLD OF 19th CENTURY AND 20th CENTURY
EXISTENTIALISM TURNED ON ITS HEAD TO SAY THAT EXISTENCE
PRECEDES ESSENCE AND YOU HAVE TO INVENT YOURSELF.
THAT IS A VERY DANGEROUS WAY OF THINKING . RIGHT OR
NOT YOU DECIDE YOURSELF. WORST OF ALL IS THE
NIHILISTIC UNDERSTANDING THERE IS NO ESSENCE . THERE
ACTUALLY IS NOT ANY ESSENCE THAT IS ERROR NUMBER TWO.
LET'S SAY PROBLEM NUMB
ER TWO . THE BELIEF THERE IS NO
MEANING. NUMBER ONE IS THE MECHANICAL UNDERSTANDING OF
MEANING. THE SECOND IS A BELIEF THERE IS NO MEANING .
THE THIRD WAY WE GET THIS WRONG IS TO
GIVE THE ANSWERS THAT WE THINK PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR.
IF YOU WOULD NOT DIE FOR YOUR FAITH, BUT YOU SEE
WHAT, IS A REAL PROBLEM. YOU ARE LIVING UNDER
RELATIVELY FALSE PRETENSES OR VERY FALSE PRETENSES . IF
YOU WOULD NOT DIE FOR YOUR FAMILY OR YOUR COUN
TRY, BUT
YOU SEE WHAT BECAUSE YOU FEEL PRESSURED INTO IT, YOU
ARE LIVING A PRETENSE, QUITE FRANKLY. THOSE ARE THE THREE
WAYS WE GET THE ANSWERS WRONG. A BEAUTIFUL QUESTION .
>> THERE MUST BE A WRONG ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. IN
OTHER WORDS, AND A CANCER THAT IS DEEPLY FELT THAT IS
SINCERE, BUT THAT YOU WOULD OBJECTIVELY SAY THAT
IS NOT A GOOD THING TO DIE FOR .
>> I WOULD SAY THERE ARE BAD AND ANSWERS, BUT THEY
ARE NOT WRONG ANS
WERS. I AM A RELATIVIST AND IS ONLY
PART OF MY LIFE WHERE I THINK I AM. I HAVE ALL
KINDS OF INTEREST TO THAT. OBJECT TO IT MORALLY. THAT
IS NOT MY POINT. A LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE A LOT
OF MEANING IN THEIR LIFE AND I WISH THEY HAD A
DIFFERENT MEANING IN THEIR LIFE. I REALLY WISH THEY
DID. DIFFERENT PROBLEM. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT LEADS
TO SENSE OF FULFILLMENT AND HAPPINESS. NOT WHAT LEADS TO
A BETTER WORLD. DIFFERENT SET OF
ISSUES.
>> I THINK YOU ARE INTERESTED IN WHAT LEADS TO
A BETTER WORLD. WHEN I WAS READING THIS BOOK , I WAS
THINKING THERE IS A TRICK THAT ARTHUR IS PLAYING ON
US. BECAUSE HE IS SAYING HERE'S A WAY TO GET HAPPY.
BUT WHAT HE IS REALLY TRIED TO SAY IS, HERE IS A WAY
TO BE GOOD AND USEFUL. >> GENERALLY SPEAKING, THE
GENERAL RULE IS BEING GOOD AND USEFUL WILL MAKE YOU
HAPPY. BEING SELFISH WILL NOT. THAT IS THE WHOLE
POINT FOC
US ON OTHERS. SERVE THE WORLD. BE A GOOD PERSON
. IT IS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD STRATEGY. THERE ARE
LOTS OF PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS IF YOU ARE FEELING LONELY,
THE NUMBER ONE BEST WAY TO STOP FEELING LONELY IS GO
FIND SOMEBODY WHO IS LONELY AND KEEP THEM COMPANY. IS
THE SINGLE BEST WAY TO DO IT. I RECOMMEND TO NBA
STUDENTS -- LETTER NBA IN THE SECOND SEMESTER. THEY
ARE ALL GOING FORTH AND TAKING THEIR FIRST JOBS. A
LOT OF THEM
ARE GOING TO SAN FRANCISCO , NEW YORK ET
CETERA AND THEY WILL BE LONELY . THE KEY IS TO
PRETEND YOU HAVE BEEN IN THAT CITY FOR 10 YEARS AND
ACT LIKE YOU HAVE BEEN IN THE CITY FOR 10 YEARS AND
DO WHAT SOMEBODY WHO IS IT AN OLD-TIMER WITH DUE. GO
FIND SOMEONE WHO IS NEW. CAN HELP YOU OUT? DO YOU
WANT TO COME OVER? HAVE A DINNER PARTY OR START A
BOOK CLUB OR WHATEVER IT HAPPENS TO BE. YOUR ACTING
AS IF YOU WERE NOT ONLY.
REALLY YOU ARE SERVING OTHER
PEOPLE . THAT IS THE SECRET TO ALMOST EVERYTHING I HAVE
DONE LOTS OF ASPIRANTS IN MY CAREER . WHEN I DID MORE
CONVENTIONAL ACADEMIC WORK. EXPERIENCE -- EXPERIENCE ON
CHARITABLE GIVING IT WAS RESEARCH ON CHARITABLE GIVING
BEHAVIORS DEFINE GIVING MAKES YOU HEALTHY, HAPPY AND RICH.
IT EVEN MAKES YOU BETTER LOOKING IN THE EYES OF
OTHER PEOPLE. IT IS A GREAT EXPERIMENT . EXAMINES THE
HAVE TWO SETS OF PSYCHOLOGIS
TS
AND COUPLES, TO THE LABORATORY. THEY WILL SAY TO
ONE MEMBER OF THE COUPLE, I WILL GIVE YOU A POCKET FULL
OF CHANGE AND YOU'LL WALK WITH YOUR PARTNER DOWN TO
THE OTHER BUILDING AND YOU WILL GET INTERVIEWED WHEN
YOU GET THERE AND THAT IS THE WHOLE EXPANSE. THEY ARE
HALFWAY THERE IN A HOMELESS PERSON COMES WONDERING --
WONDERING ABOUT PATH AND STOP THEM AND SAYS, DO YOU
HAVE ANY CHANGE? ONE PERSON HAS CHANGE IS PART OF THE
EXP
ERIMENT. OF COURSE A HOMELESS PERSON IS INVOLVED
IN THE EXPONENT. THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO GO ONTO THE
NEXT SET OF THE COLLEGES WHO ASK THE QUESTION? HOW
MUCH DID YOU SUPPORT THE HOMELESS PERSON WITH CHANGE?
HE TURNS THE PARTNER AND SAYS, HOW ATTRACTIVE DO YOU
FIND THEM RIGHT NOW? IT TURNS OUT YOUR PARTNER FINDS
YOU MORE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE IF SHE OR HE HAS
WITNESSED YOU BE MORE GENEROUS WITH A
STRANGER. >> I WILL TRY THAT. GO
AHEAD. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
CHATTING TODAY . I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE MYTHOLOGY
AND DATA USED TO COLLECT THIS. HOW LONG ARE THE
STUDIES? CAN YOU TALK A LITTLE BIT
ABOUT IF IT IS JUST SUBJECTIVE. AND MUST BE
DIFFICULT WITH SELF REPORTING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT THINGS.
HE TOOK US THROUGH THE METHODOLOGY AND DATA?
>> THANK YOU. I LOVE THAT QUESTION. I DO NOT GET THAT
USUALLY AND IT IS IMPORTANT. STUDIES OF HAPPINESS. THERE
AR
E MILLIONS STUDIES OF HAPPINESS AND ALL SORTS OF
DIFFERENT METHODOLOGIES EXPERIMENT TOLD DATA ET
CETERA AND THEY ALL RELY ON ONE THING. HOW DO THEY
MEASURE HAPPINESS ? THAT IS THE METHODOLOGY. THIS WAS
A BIG CONTROVERSY FOR A LONG TIME HOW HAPPY ARE
YOU? NOT THAT USEFUL . THE GENERAL SOCIAL SURVEY,
THE MOST CONFERENCE OF SOURCE OF GENERAL SOCIAL
DATA IN THE NINE STATES GOES BACK TO 1972. EVERY
YEAR OR EVERY SECOND YEAR WHEN THEY
DO THE SURVEY IT ASKS, ALL THINGS
CONSIDERED, HOW HAPPY ARE YOU ABOUT YOUR LIFE? THE
CHOICES ARE NOT TOO HAPPY, SOMEWHAT HAPPY AND VERY
HAPPY. IT IS OKAY JUST TO GET A SNAPSHOT. THE BEST
QUESTIONS, THEY LOOK AT LARGE SAMPLES . THEY ASK
PEOPLE ANONYMOUSLY . YOU CANNOT ANSWER HAPPINESS
LESSONS IN FRONT OF YOUR SPOUSE BECAUSE YOU WILL LIE.
THEY ASK YOU TO COMPARE YOURSELF TO OTHER
PEOPLE. THIS IS THE BEST WAY. IT IS THE
PSYCHOMETRICA
LLY VALIDATED AGAINST MORE SOPHISTICATED
MEASURES. BLOOD CORTISOL LEVELS AND THIRD-PARTY
VALIDATION OF HOW HAPPY YOU ARE WHEN PEOPLE ARE ASKED
ABOUT YOU . A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS OF DOING IT.
ALL THINGS CONSIDERED, NOT THIS
MOMENT IN YOUR LIFE , IS NOT TO CONTAMINATED THEIR
CURRENT MOOD, HOW YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR BREAKFAST. THINK
OF THE HAPPIEST PERSON YOU HAVE EVER MET AT A 10. ONE
OF THE MOST UNHAPPINESS, THAT IS WHEN. WHAT IS YOUR
NUMBER BUT IT IS INCREDIBLY STABLE ACROSS LARGE GROUPS
OF PEOPLE. IT IS QUITE VALIDATING. THE CONSTRUCT HAS
BEEN VALIDATED IN THOUSANDS OF STUDIES AT THIS POINT.
IT HAD NOT BEEN . BUT IT HAS BEEN AND I FEEL
CONFIDENT USING THAT DATA IN MY OWN RESEARCH. AND
REPORTING A GOOD STUDIES AND MEASURES.
>> IT IS VERY INTERESTING. CULTURALLY , I REMEMBER ONCE
WHEN I WAS A KID MY DAD SAID, HOW ARE YOU ? I JUST COME BACK MY FIRST YEAR
BOA
RDING SCHOOL I WAS LIKE, I AM GREAT. GREAT ONLY GOD
IS GREAT. I WONDER CROSS-CULTURALLY ,
U.S. PEOPLE IF THEY ARE HAPPY. AND PRAISE BE TO GOD
, THEY DO NOT ANSWER THE QUESTION.
>> IT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT. WE GET UNITED NATIONS
DATA AND CROSS-COUNTRY DATA ABOUT THE HAPPIEST COUNTRIES.
IT IS NONSENSE AND YOU CANNOT BELIEVE IT . DIFFERENT
PEOPLE ANSWER IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES UNDER DIFFERENT
CULTURAL CIRCUMSTANCES IN DIFFERENT WAYS AND THE
N
TRANSLATE THE WORD FOR HAPPINESS DIFFERENTLY. THAT
SAID, NOT TO NATIONS HAS INTERNATIONAL HAPPINESS DAY
COMING UP. WORLD HAPPINESS SUMMIT AND I AM A KEYNOTE .
GO TO LONDON AS THEY DO NOT TRUST THESE INDICES . IT
IS A SKUNK AT THE GARDEN PARTY. THEY SPENT SEVERAL
MILLION DOLLARS, BUT THE INDEX THAT DOES NOT HOLD
WATER. THEY WILL TELL US ONCE AGAIN THAT DENMARK IS
THE HAPPIEST COUNTRY IN WHICH ALL THE SOCIAL
DEMOCRATS. WE SHOULD
ALL DO THAT. IF WE HAD TRAINS THAT
WERE CLEAN WE WOULD ALL BE HAPPY OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT. CANNOT BELIEVE IT. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH
AND MARK. MARK IS AWESOME THERE IS A REASON MY
GRANDPARENTS LEFT DENMARK . BECAUSE THEY WERE AMBITIOUS
RIFF-RAFF. YOU GET MY POINT. THEY
WANTED TO BE ONE OF YOU IF YOU ARE FROM THE UNITED
STATES EVEN IF YOU ARE NOT WHAT THEY WANTED TO BE AN
IMMIGRANT LIKE YOU. WE SELF SELECT INTO AN ENVIRO
NMENT.
SOME EVEN BELIEVE THERE IS A GENETIC PROCLIVITY TO
THINK ABOUT HAPPINESS IN PARTICULAR WAY . WHEN YOU
ASK NO REGIONS, DANES, SWEETEST PEOPLE AND PEOPLE
FROM ICELAND WHAT HAPPINESS MEANS, THEY TALK ABOUT
CONTENTMENT. I DO NOT WANT CONTENTMENT . I WANT
ADVENTURE . I WANT INTELLECTUAL ADVENTURE . I
WANT IDEAS AND HERESY AND DANGER. THAT IS WHY I AM
HERE. THAT IS WHY I DO WHAT I DO. THERE IS A WORD
IN DANISH THAT THE GOVERNMENT
USED TO USE HY
GGE IT MEANS THE COZY CONVIVIALITY OF THE COMFORT
OF FRIENDS ON A COMFORTABLE COUCH OR SOMETHING LIKE
THAT. IS A PARAPHRASE I DO NOT WANT IT. YOU CAN KEEP YOUR AGE YOU GGE , I
WANT THIS. I HAVE LECTURED ON THIS IN
RUSSIA. 9% SAY THEY ARE HAPPY WHAT IS WRONG
WITH YOU GUYS? THEY SAY, IT IS BAD LUCK TO SAY YOU ARE
HAPPY . I HAVE LECTURED ON THIS IN LATIN AMERICA. 70%
OF PEOPLE SAID THEY ARE HAPPY. I REALLY
THAT HAPPY
YOU SAY YOU ARE HAPPY . IT IS BAD LUCK TO SEE YOU ARE
NOT HAPPY. YOU CANNOT GET A NON-CONTAMINATED SAMPLE ACROSS
COUNTRIES WHEN YOU GET BIASES IS THE BOTTOM LINE.
>> WAS YOUR FATHER HAPPY? I THINK HE WAS . HE HAD ALL
OF THESE THINGS YOU TALK ABOUT.
>> HAPPINESS HYGIENE ON POINT. THAT IS GREAT.
>> THANK YOU FOR THE TALK. MY QUESTION IS, IS IT
HARDER TO BE HAPPY WHEN YOU ARE INTELLIGENT? ESPECIALLY
IN THE SENSE OF
CRITICAL INTELLIGENCE. YOU MENTIONED
INSTITUTION GIVING MEANING . >> THE FIRST PART IS
INTELLIGENCE AND? >> IF YOU QUESTION FATE
BROUGHT UP IN A RELIGIOUS ENVIRONMENT AND YOU
QUESTION YOUR FAITH. IF YOU WERE BROUGHT UP IN A
FAMILY, ARMY OR THE COUNTRY BEING IMPORTANT . YOU
QUESTION IT BECAUSE WERE CRITICAL AND WANT TO FOR
YOURSELF . IS IT HARDER FOR YOU TO BE HAPPY WITH A
CRITICAL MIND? >> IS IT HARDER FOR SMART
PEOPLE TO BE HAPPY
I MUST BE BRILLIANT.
>> YOU ARE A MESS. A VERY GOOD QUESTION . IF YOUR
INTELLIGENCE LEADS YOU TO FRESHEN THE STATUS QUO. THAI
INSTITUTION GIVING MEANING. >> THE ANSWER IS SOME
RESEARCH HAS FOUND THERE IS A MODERATE INCREASE IN
HAPPINESS THAT INCREASES AS WE INCREASE COGNITIVE
HORSEPOWER UP TO A CERTAIN POINT . AND THEN, HAPPINESS
GOES DOWN AGAIN. IT IS A CURVILINEAR RELATIONSHIP.
SORRY, YOU ARE ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE HAPPINESS M
ETER.
WHY IS THAT? FOR THE REASONS WE ARE TALKING
ABOUT HERE. IT IS EASIER TO NEGOTIATE LIFE IN
INCREASINGLY COMPLEX WORLD , AS YOU HAVE MORE GIFTS
UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES . WHICH, BY THE WAY COULD
INCLUDE EDUCATION AND A LOT OF THAT GOES INTO WHAT IS MANUFACTURED INTO
THESE MEASURES. NATURAL OR OTHERWISE AFTER CERTAIN
POINT, YOU FIND IT STARTS TO GET IN THE WAY OF A
CERTAIN AMOUNT OF LIFE. THAT SAID, EVEN IF YOU HAVE THE
GREATES
T INTELLECTUAL EVER , IF YOU HAVE YOUR HAPPINESS
DIET ON POINT, YOU CAN DO REALLY WELL. MY STUDENTS AT
HARVARD BUSINESS SCHOOL ARE DEFINITELY ON THE PART OF
THE HAPPINESS CURVE. THEY CAN BE INCREDIBLY HAPPY IF
THEY ARE PAYING ATTENTION NOT TO PLEASURE, BUT TO
ENJOYMENT . FOR SATISFACTION IF THEY
ARE NOT THINKING ABOUT HAVE MORE, HAVE MORE, HAVE MORE
BUT, WANT LESS, WANT LESS, WANT LESS MEANING, IF WE
CAN LEARN TO ANSWER THESE QUE
STIONS, IT IS NOT THE
WORLD OF ONE INTELLECTUAL GROUP OR ANOTHER. WE ALL
HAVE TO BE SUBJECT -- WE ARE ALL SUBJECT TO THE SAME
SET OF RULES AND CIRCUMSTANCES. WE CAN ALL
GET HAPPIER. >> MY NAME IS THOMAS AND
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME TODAY. MOST OF WHAT YOU
SHARED REALLY RESONATES WITH ME. WHAT I FEEL LIKE IS
MISSING FROM THE CONVERSATION AND WHAT MY QUESTION RELATES
TO IS THE ROLE OF POLICY IN ENABLING OR INHIBITING
HAPPINESS .
MORE SPECIFICALLY, MY QUESTION IS HOW CAN WE
ENSURE HAPPINESS IS NOT A PERSONAL SELF-HELP PROJECT
SOLELY FOR THE PRIVILEGE . BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, A
PRODUCT OF STRUCTURAL CONDITIONS THAT PROMOTE THE
HIGHER STANDARD OF LIVING FOR ALL WORKING PEOPLE . PUT
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY, TO WHAT EXTENT IS HAPPINESS
DETERMINED BY INDIVIDUAL VERSUS SYSTEMIC ACTION? SUCH
A GREAT QUESTION. WE ARE AT A
POLICY SCHOOL . I SUFFERED THROUGH A PHD IN
PUBLIC P
OLICY THAT GIVEN THAT A LOT OF THOUGHT, AS
YOU CAN IMAGINE. A VERY ASTUTE QUESTION. AN ANSWER
IS COUNTERINTUITIVE. HERE ON THE TRAIL TO THE ANSWER. I
WAS IN DENMARK MAKING A FILM ABOUT HAPPINESS. I WAS
SPEAKING TO THE SPEAKER OF THE
DANISH HOUSE. HE SAID, I AM A SOCIAL DEMOCRAT. I
SAID, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS IS THE HAPPIEST COUNTRY
. WHAT ARE YOU DOING IN GOVERNMENT TO CREATE SUCH
HAPPINESS IN THIS COUNTRY ? HE SAID, IT IS
A LIE AND
IT IS NOT TRUE. GOVERNMENT CANNOT RAISE HAPPINESS. WHAT
ARE YOU DOING? HE SAID, GOVERNMENT CAN ILLUMINATE THE
SOURCES OF UNHAPPINESS. THAT IS A NONTRIVIAL DISTINCTION. WHY? BECAUSE ONE OF THE
THINGS WE FOUND IN THE PAST 25 YEARS OF RESEARCH IS
THAT HAPPINESS AND UNHAPPINESS ARE NOT
OPPOSITES. THIS IS NOT LOGIC CHOPPING, WHICH WE DO FOR A
LIVING AROUND HERE. HAPPINESS AND UNHAPPINESS ARE LARGELY
BASED ON EMOTIONAL STATES THAT
ARE PROCESSED IN
DIFFERENT HEMISPHERES OF THE BRAIN. IN POINT OF FACT,
GOVERNMENT CANNOT MAKE YOU HAPPIER IN POINT OF FACT,
IT CAN RELIEVE THE AVOIDABLE SOURCES OF UNHAPPINESS THAT
INHIBIT OUR PURSUIT OF THE BEST
LIFE AS WE WANT TO LIVE IT. AND THAT IS WHY POLICY
IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. THAT IS WHY FOR EXAMPLE, YOU
FIND ALL OF THE STUDIES THAT SHOW ABOVE $75,000 PER
YEAR IN INCOME PEOPLE DO NOT GET HAPPIER. NO, WHAT
HAPPENS I
S RELATIVELY MINIMAL TO LOW INCOME LEVELS ,
UNHAPPINESS IS AVOIDED BECAUSE OF CALORIE NEEDS
BEING MET AND BECAUSE OF HEALTH CARE BEING PROVIDED
ET CETERA . AND, BECAUSE WERE NOT WORRIED ALL NIGHT
ABOUT YOUR RENT UNDER THE CENSUS. ON THAT, IT BECOMES
INDIVIDUAL PROJECT. THE COLLECTIVE PROJECT IS AT LOW
LEVELS AND ON UNHAPPINESS SAID. THE INDIVIDUAL PROJECT
GOES ALL THE WAY THROUGH AND CAN BE ON THE HAPPINESS
SAID . IF WE DO NOT GET THA
T AND WORK TOGETHER, WE
WILL HAVE CRUMMY PUBLIC AUSSIES THAT DO NOT HELP.
WILL HAVE MORE AND MORE POLITICIANS INSTEAD OF BACK
AND TELL US, IF YOU VOTE FOR ME YOU WILL BE HAPPY.
THEY ARE LYING IS THE BOTTOM LINE BECAUSE
THEY ACTUALLY CANNOT DO THAT. WE HERE AT THE
KENNEDY SCHOOL CAN ILLUMINATE A LOT OF SOURCES OF
UNHAPPINESS THAT WE FIND AROUND THE WORLD. WE WILL
GO HAMMER AND TONGS ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. WITH THE
TAX RATE
SHOULD BE ET CETERA. GOOD. WE CAN MAKE
REAL AGGRESSIVELY PUT OUR MINDS TO IT.
>> ARTHUR , TRYING TO READ THE BOOK AND THE QUESTIONERS QUESTION
CAUSES ME TO THINK POLICY IMPLICATIONS . YOU COULD
IMAGINE POLICY IMPLICATION OF THE BOOK WOULD BE WE SHOULD
PURSUE POLICIES TO INCENTIVIZE THE FORMATION.
YOU COULD IMAGINE A POLICY INDICATION OF THE BOOK TO
BE, WE SHOULD NOT HAVE ANYTHING LIKE THE UNIVERSAL
BASED INCOME BECAUSE OF THIS INCENTI
VIZE WORK . WHY WOULD
THAT BE THE WRONG INTERPRETATION?
>> BECAUSE I WAITED ABOUT IT IS PUBLIC POLICY SHOULD
BE IN THE BUSINESS OF GETTING RID OF BARRIERS TO
THOSE THINGS. AND THEN HELPING PEOPLE BE FACILITATED
IN THEIR PURSUIT OF THESE THINGS THAT IS
WHAT WE NEED. IN OTHER WORDS, I REALLY DO NOT WANT
A GOVERNMENT AGENCY DEDICATED TO FAMILY FORMATION . OR, EVERYBODY GOING TO
CHURCH. I DO NOT WANT THAT. IT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL TO
BE
GIN WITH AND IT IS UNDESIRABLE BECAUSE IT IS
COUNTERPRODUCTIVE. >> CHURCHES, TAX BREAKS-
>> TAX BREAKS FOR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS AND
ORGANIZATIONS THAT DO SOCIAL GOOD ON THE BASIS OF
CONTRIBUTION. A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT AREA. THAT IS
GETTING OUT OF THE WAY OF OUR ABILITY TO SUPPORT THESE
ORGANIZATIONS AS A SOCIETY. SIMPLY NOT TAXES SOMETHING
IS NOT THE SAME AS SUBSIDIZING. THAT IS A VERY
IMPORTANT DISTINCTION BOTH IN POLICY AND IN PRAC
TICE.
>> INSTALLATIONS UP AND SAYS, UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME-
>> I SAY BAD IDEA.
>> OUR QUESTIONER WOULD SAY, THIS IS THE WAY WE WILL
ALLEVIATE SUFFERING. YOU WOULD SAY-
>> THAT IS NOT THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT BECAUSE IT
ACTUALLY CREATES INCENTIVES FOR PEOPLE TO NOT WORK AND
THAT IS A PROBLEM. WORK BRINGS DIGNITY. WORK HELPS
PEOPLE UNDERSTAND THEY CAN CREATE VALUE. THERE ARE
BETTER WAYS TO DO THAT IS WHAT WORK TO PAY MORE AND
EXPAND
THE WORK TAX CREDIT. THERE ARE WONKY
WAYS WE MAKE OUR LIVINGS AT THE KENNEDY SCHOOL WE
CAN HELP WORK PAY MORE AND HELP PEOPLE WORK MORE AT
THIS IN TIME. OR WORK AT LEAST FOR LIVING.
>> ONE MORE QUESTION. I COULD SEE HER ALL NIGHT.
>> HOW MUCH OF LONELINESS YOU THINK IS ATTRIBUTABLE TO
A LACK OF SELF CONNECTION VERSUS SOCIAL CONNECTION ?
AND DO YOU THINK LONELINESS CAN
BE A MINDSET ? >> IT IS A GOOD QUESTION.
SOLITUDE AND ISO
LATION ARE DIFFERENT THINGS. THIS IS A
DISTINCTION THAT HENRY DAVID THOREAU MADE AT WALDEN 15
MINUTES AWAY FROM HERE. SOLITUDE IS A BEAUTIFUL
THING AS HE SAT AROUND WALDEN POND . I WILL NOTE
HIS MOTHER WAS DOING HIS LAUNDRY AND BRINGING HIM
DINNER EVERY NIGHT. [ LAUGHTER ] STYLISTICALLY, IT
MADE A LOT OF SENSE AT LEAST. WHEREAS ISOLATION IS
A DIFFERENT MATTER. TEEPLE CAN BE UNBELIEVABLY
ISOLATED EVEN WHEN THEY ARE NOT ALONE SOLITUDE
IS
SOMETHING YOU CAN FIND THE YOU IN POINT OF FACT NEED
A LOT OF TIMES I RECOMMEND TO ALL STUDENTS AND ALL OF
YOU YOU DO A SILENT RETREAT EVERY YEAR. GO SOMEPLACE AND
SIT SOMEPLACE IN SILENCE FOR AT LEAST THREE DAYS PER
YEAR. IT WILL SOLVE A MULTITUDE
OF PROBLEMS. EVEN BETTER IF IT IS GUIDED WITH
RESPECT TO YOUR FAITH OR LIFE PHILOSOPHY. SOMETHING
THAT GIVES YOU A HIGHER SENSE OF TRANSCENDENCE WHILE
YOU ARE DOING THIS . IT I
S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE
IT WILL GIVE YOU THE SOLITUDE YOU NEED. BUT MANY
PEOPLE , EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE SURROUNDED CONSTANTLY AND
EVEN IN A FAMILY OR MARRIAGE ARE DEEPLY ISOLATED.
THAT HAS NOT JUST TO DO WITH
MINDSET, IT HAS TO DO WITH THE QUALITY OF THE
RELATIONSHIPS AND WHAT THEY ARE SEEKING FROM
RELATIONSHIPS. THAT SAID, ONE OF THE THINGS I TALK ABOUT
AN AWFUL LOT IS HOW TO IMPROVE RELATIONSHIPS. HOW TO
TREAT THEM IN A WAY
AS HEALTHY AS POSSIBLE. PROBABLY
THE MOST POPULAR UNITS OF THE CLASS I TEACH AT HPS
IS ABOUT FAMILY FORMATION AND LOVE. ABOUT HOW ROMANTIC
RELATIONSHIPS , HOW WE CAN FALL IN LOVE AND STAY
IN LOVE AND PURSUE A PARTNERSHIP LOSS EACH ONE OF
US FOR THE REST OF OUR LIVES . THAT IS PROBABLY THE
MOST IMPORTANT THING I TEACH AS A MATTER FACT. IS IF
THERE'S ONE THING YOU WILL LEARN THAT YOU WILL TAKE
WITH YOU FOR THE REST YOUR LIFE O
NLY TO HAPPINESS IT
IS HOW NOT TO BE ISOLATED WHEN YOU'RE WITH YOUR
PARTNER. THANK YOU FOR THAT. >> WE ARE AT THE END OF
OUR TIME. ONE QUESTION I MIGHT ASK
YOU IS , IS HARVARD A HAPPY PLACE? ARE THERE ANY OTHER
QUESTIONS? [ >> THERE IS A LOT OF
HAPPINESS HERE . I AM LOOKING OUT AND A LOT
OF YOU HAVE HAPPINESS IN YOUR LIVES. HARVARD IS NOT
A SINGLE UNITARY ORGANISM . IT IS A LOT OF PEOPLE
DOING A LOT OF THINGS. THAT DOE
S NOT MEAN WE HAVE A
HAPPY CULTURE RIGHT NOW . IT DOES NOT MEAN WE HAVE A
CULTURE FOSTERING HAPPINESS RIGHT NOW. I BELIEVE WE DO
NOT AND I BELIEVE THAT WE CAN. I AM ACTUALLY MORE
OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THIS PLACE THAN I HAVE BEEN IN THE
FIVE YEARS I HAVE BEEN HERE. THE REASON IS BECAUSE
THE DISCOMFORT WE ARE FEELING AS A COMMUNITY IS A
SPUR TO OUR GROWTH. IT IS INCREDIBLE. IF EVERYTHING IS
KIND OF OKAY, NOBODY WANTS TO CHANGE. NOB
ODY THINGS
THAT IS OKAY. WE CAN CHANGE. YOU AND I HAVE
TALKED ABOUT THIS. BY THE WAY, IF YOU DO NOT KNOW
TAREK MASOUD IS THE EDITOR OF THE SINGLE
MOST EXCITING AND IMPORTANT INTELLECTUAL JOURNAL IN THE
STUDY OF DEMOCRACY OF ALL POLITICAL SCIENCE. THE
JOURNAL OF DEMOCRACY WHOSE IDEAS AND IT HAS FOR
MANY YEARS AND HE IS THE EDITOR. WE WERE WORKING ON
AN ARTICLE THAT I AM PUBLISHING IN THE JOURNAL OF
DEMOCRACY THAT COMES OUT SOO
N. ONE OF THE THINGS WE
WERE TALKING ABOUT IS HOW TO GET AN INTELLECTUAL
COMMUNITY THAT IS HAPPIER? DO YOU KNOW THE ANSWER TO
THAT? IT IS MORE DIVERSITY OF IDEAS. MORE HERESY. MORE
DURING. MORE ADVENTURE . IT IS FUNNY BECAUSE A LOT OF
PEOPLE WENT TO HARVARD IN THE 80s. THE
HAPPIEST TIME OF MY LIFE. I MET PEOPLE . I DISAGREED
WITH PEOPLE AND WE HAD DINNER TOGETHER AND IT WAS
GREAT. TO COME BACK AND ARE LIKE, WHAT IS GOING ON?
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE ? EVERYBODY IS AFRAID OF
WALKING ON EGG SHELLS AND YOU CANNOT TALK ABOUT
CERTAIN IDEAS BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO SCARY. WHO KNOWS
WHAT IT MIGHT MEAN? THAT IS WHAT LEADS TO UNHAPPINESS
AND THAT IS WHERE OPPORTUNITY IS. TAREK MASOUD
HAS A GREAT METAPHOR. THIS PLACE IS NOT
A COMFY COUCH, THIS PLACES A GYM WE GO TO GET
STRONGER AND YOU REVEL IN IT AND ENJOY THE ROUGH AND
TUMBLE OF WHAT IT ACTUALLY MEANS. AND, NO
T
PARADOXICALLY, BUT LOGICALLY, THOSE ARE SOME OF
THE HAPPIEST AVERMENTS I HAVE EVER BEEN IN . PEOPLE
GO TO THE GYM AND IT HURTS AND IT FEELS GOOD AND YOU
ENJOY IT AND YOU ARE WITH YOUR FRIENDS. THAT IS WHAT
YOU TELL ME WE SHOULD HAVE HERE AND I COMPLETELY AGREE
WITH THAT . THAT IS THE WAY BACK TO THIS INSTITUTION. I
AM MORE CONFIDENT THAT I HAVE BEEN SINCE WE HAVE
BEEN HERE THAT WE CAN GET THERE.
>> ARTHUR BROOKS , HAPPINES
S, PLEASURE,
ENJOYMENT, MEANING, SATISFACTION . ALL OF THOSE
THINGS, I GOT OUT OF THE SHOWER WITH YOU. I KNOW OUR
AUDIENCE DID ALSO. PLEASE JOIN ME IN THANKING ARTHUR
BROOKS. [ APPLAUSE ] >> THANK YOU.
>> [ EVENT CONCLUDED ]
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