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The European Transit System That Doesn’t Feel European

Watch this video ad-free on Nebula: https://nebula.tv/videos/rmtransit-athens-the-modern-transit-system-of-an-ancient-city Athens is one of the most historic cities of the western world, and with its history comes a lot of transit history as well, but also a surprisingly new railway system built almost entirely in the past few decades. Let's take a look! Support the Channel and Get Exclusive Content: https://www.patreon.com/rmtransit My Blog: https://reecemartin.ca Twitter: https://twitter.com/RM_Transit Instagram: https://instagram.com/rm_transit Mastodon: https://mstdn.social/@RM_Transit Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rmtransit.bsky.social Threads: https://www.threads.net/@rm_transit Community Discord Server: https://discord.gg/jfz3fqT Music from Epidemic Sound: https://share.epidemicsound.com/nptgfg Map Data © OpenStreetMap contributors Nexa from Fontfabric.com

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it's rare that I get to talk about a whole new country on RM Transit and when you think of Greece you might think of historic sites and beautiful islands but for me I usually think of it for the very interesting Athens Transit System as well as the Thessaloniki Metro is that still happening now since there seems to be some confusion I visited a solid super majority of the systems I talk about on the channel and when I visited Athens I was really impressed with how comprehensive the rail transit
system is and a lot of the interesting features that it has in some ways it doesn't even feel like you're in Europe so let's take to the rails of Athens to look at this very interesting transit system and where it's headed [Music] next this is RM Transit a Channel about cities and their public transit from Austin to Athens like many cities around the world not just in North America Athens ripped out its historic tram system but like so many cities across Europe Athens has rebuilt itself a really
nice beautiful modern tram system in fact for the Olympics in 2004 and it's actually quite an extensive system running 32 km with nearly 60 different stops like most modern tram systems the trams in Athens run on standard gauge track and are powered by 750 volt DC overhead lines the system consists of two different routes t7 which is a route along the coastline running to the port area of pareas where there's a one-way loop as well as to many beaches long wood is one of the most beautiful and S
cenic tram lines in the world there's also the T6 route which runs from Central Athens near the Acropolis all the way down to the coast to meet with t7 if you're curious like I was why the trams are number T6 and t7 it's most likely because the numbers 1 to 5 were used in an earlier iteration of the tram network with T1 and T2 representing truncated Services however 6 and seven also benefit from allowing a unified numbering scheme with the Metro the network is really attractive and there's quite
a few interesting spots on T6 in particular where the line splits in two to weave through tight Alleyways in historic areas of the city there's also a ton of green track throughout something which is still vanishingly uncommon in North America well the tram system only originally had kind of meh tram units from oneloa its newer trams from Stam citadis units look and feel modern seems like it's still one of the few Rolling Stock products which Stam does consistently knock out of the park running
deep underneath the trams is the Athens Metro Network which is run by the same op and moves well in excess of a million and a half people a day which is really respectable for a network with just 66 stations over roughly 92 km of track on Athens three different lines it should however be noted that because several of Athens interchange stations are really separate facilities that the actual station count is arguably higher I'll let you hash that one out in the comments though the Athens Metro i
s interesting from the first time you look at its map with a giant triangle transfer in the middle and all three lines starting near the coast and ending up further in land despite only having three lines the Metro effectively has five different interchanges since lines two and three both connect to line one twice and all of the lines actually connect with the Trans system which means there's a ton of Intermodal connectivity line one was the first line in the Athens Metro and it's one of the wor
ld's great Metro lines as so many line ones seem to be from Paris to Soul line one is actually formed of the remnants of a surface Railway with a short underground Central section meaning that most of the tracks actually don't run underf foot though they do run through some rather historic and attractive old stations some even claim that Athens line one is the oldest metro line in Continental Europe which kind of depends on how you define a metro line is it a metro line if it gets upgraded into
a metro line like Athens line one or is it a metro line if it was designed as a metro line like Budapest M1 it's really up to you to decide adding to the Intrigue of this sometimes above sometimes below ground Transit Corridor are a number of stations with Spanish solution boarding where platforms are on not just one but both sides of the trains I also really love the Southern Railway style Terminus in pus which is also home to a workshop and reminds me a lot of Hammer Smith on these subsurface
lines in London that being said the line given its age and infrastructure is rough around the edges especially compared to the newer lines now despite line one being built over 150 years ago and being electrified over 100 years ago all of athens's subsequent Metro lines have adopted the same technical standards with 750 volt DC3 rail relatively wide 2.8 M carriages and sixc car trains that are over 100 m long lines 2 and three are in many ways much less Charming they're both modern Metro lines t
hat opened in the 2000s and are entirely underground although interestingly with many curved platforms something which actually isn't so common on Modern Metro systems in many ways from these station designs to the Hyundai rhm Rolling Stock these lines remind me a lot of systems in Asia as well as of course Vancouver's Canada line which notably has the same same seats Athens also has platform edged lights which blink when a train is approaching just like in Washington DC and formerly in Taipei t
he Athens Metro is also growing and a new line line four is already under construction this line will actually be yet another with automated alen Metropolis trains alongside Paris Sydney South Paulo and Santiago and it'll initially form a u through Central areas connecting lines 2 and three the eventual goal for line four though is for it to become more of a cross town line connecting to very ious destinations around Athens Hills and also making many more connections to other Transit lines in th
e region having more Metro coverage is a good thing because Athens density is very uniform without much spiky high-rise development around stations it's more Paris than Vancouver the Metro master plan also calls for much more with an extension of line one to the north as well as a new Branch an extension to line two on both ends including South to t7 along the coast as well as a branch for line four that would parallel line two there's a lot of Rapid Transit planned finally there's Athens Suburb
an train system which is actually run by trenitalia and is quite underrated if also a little underdeveloped the Suburban train system currently forms a giant plus symbol through Athens with AN eastwest line on the north side of the city and a North South Line running through West Central Athens including to Athens station where it connects with line two and all the way south to Paras where it actually has a Terminus that's just a block over from line one a connection to line three as well and of
course to the tramps Beyond just serving Suburban trips the network also handles longer Regional Journeys and electrified inter city service to thessal eniki while the Suburban rail system doesn't have the best infrastructure or service core parts of it are included in the same standard ticket as with the metro and tramps something which much larger cities like Toronto still haven't managed to figure out there is no way to sugarcoat it the network needs a lot of work from more tracks to more gr
ade separations there are a ton of grade Crossings in central parts of Athens but when you actually look into it there's a lot lot of work going in to improve every part of the network and you can see a lot of it if you just go and look at images online including new and upgraded stations rebuilt and expanded rail corridors and far more already on the network today most of the trains are really nice Seaman dyro emus and apparently demand is high enough despite the rather low service levels that
there're already plans to introduce higher capacity trains for the future including buy Lev emus which are just lovely one really interesting element of the system is the line to the airport which is quite use in and of itself if a little infrequent but it actually also allows metro line 3 with its completely different High floor Metro trains to serve the Eastern suburbs and the airport directly this actually takes its route to nearly 50 km long to do this line 3 trains pop out of the Metro tunn
els onto the Suburban rail Corridor put up pantographs to accept the overhead power on the line and serve different platforms at the stations that are built at the appropriate platform height for the Metro trains there're separate ones for the Suburban trains this is pretty similar to how the rdam metro and rans said rail interact in parts of the heg allow this is a pretty unique way of connecting rails to the airport and having multiple different Rail lines actually directly serve it and so whi
le there is an extra Fair I'll always remember Athens for its relatively interesting air Rail Link though it should be mentioned that the frequency of airport services isn't all that great all in all Athens actually has a rather underrated public transit system from trams to Metro and Suburban rail as well as trol buses fairies and a fairly well-known panicular Athens also has basically every mode of Transit and the actual service offered is solid with good frequencies and smart integrated ticke
ting but perhaps what's most impressive is how new most of the system is from the creation of two out of three Metro Lions to the entire tram system the electrification and expansion of this sub Urban rail a lot has happened in just the last two decades and I think the future is even brighter the system is also very well connected with all major modes connecting to all of the others and the tightly interlined Metro tram and Suburban train system getting on the Metro nathens is a really great exp
erience and another example alongside cities like Warsaw and Helsinki that there are so many cities we can look to to learn about how to build better public transit and rail systems while Paris and Tokyo are great they aren't the only cities to learn from thanks for [Music] watching [Music]

Comments

@ZO6Buccaneer

When I visited Athens, I was shockingly impressed by just how effective and useful the metro was with only three lines. I was able to get nearly everywhere I wanted to go, and it was quite quick, especially compared to the horrendous traffic there.

@AlexGramer

I remember suggesting the video a year ago! As a greek myself, I can confirm that the analysis is very accurate and to the point. Regarding the Thessaloniki metro, our government says that it's ready and that it will open to the public this fall, but I have my suspicions...

@n.bastians8633

Athens didn't just rip out their historic tram system, they converted it to an electric trolleybus system. In fact, the Athens trolleybus system is the largest of all countries of the former Western Bloc, and the largest in the EU. That also means Athens has had an electric bus system for much longer than many systems introducings BEBs now.

@thetunnelunderoceanboulevard

5:01 The lights are only in a handful of stations. Also, since you mentioned the national rail lines, it must be said that since the Tempi tragedy hardly anyone trusts them anymore. Honestly I don't even blame them. It truly is one of the most horrific things that have happened in Greece's recent history...

@robojimtv

Something that didn't come through your video is the super simple connection between the airport and Piraeus which makes for island vacationing that is so simple. My wife and I were in Greece last year and we didn't need to take a cab to get to our ferry.

@Pan472

Incredible video and thank you for properly utilising the footage! It's so nice to see Athens finally represented here and getting a comprehensive and positive evaluation! As a note of importance: every metro station is thankfully linked to multiple bus and trolleybus lines, which act as feeders for the metro network and despite their aging fleet, still have very frequent services, especially to any North American city. Plus, along with all other rail, the fares are united and used in the metro and the bus as well! Note 2: the metro receives more than 2.5 million riders per day. It's traffic is much bigger than well above 1.5 million you could say! But we only rely on ticket data, which don't count in all days and count only certain periods in these said days. Note 3: It wasn't mentioned, although it's very, very important for any visitor, but trains to and from the Airport arrive every 36 minutes. So, especially if you're coming from the direction of Piraeus, if you're not already in an airport train, you'll have to disembark at Plakentias and wait there, or take a suburban train as an alternative, if possible. Line 3 has the direct connection between the port, the centre and the airport but service through through the entirely of the line is very infrequent. Service is very, very frequent only up to Doukissis Plakentias station, for which you have to be vigilant for the following: as it's the intermediate terminal of line 3, many times trains are averted to the direction of Piraeus so as to evade the track change after Plakentias and make services automatically more frequent. So, you have to go to the opposite platform in that case. I think these should have been added in the video, but other than that it addressed all the main elements. Good job @rmtransit!

@MrVlad0978

Also, for a hot take, as a passenger at least, I find the Ansaldobreda Sirios to be be pretty decent. The air-conditioning always works (important for Athens) and I find the longitudinal seating of the Sirios above the bogies to be more comfortable than the pretty cramped tranverse above-the-bogies seats of the Citadises.

@benlewis4241

I love the zoom out map at 6:25- It really helps put things into perspective- I sometimes wish you had a scale bar in the bottom corner though. Thanks for the amazing videos!

@MaJoRMJR

The Olympics always demands new transit systems are built, you hope when they build them that they're future proofed (I.e. serve a purpose post-games), it's one lasting legacy that many host cities do get, if they get it right

@barryrobbins7694

It would be interesting to compare the effects on public transit infrastructure in metro areas after preparations for the Olympics.

@nicolaskersten3305

Can you please also make a video about the metro, trolleybus, bus and tram system in Sofia, the Bulgarian capital? There are a lot of interesting things to see. Sofia's metro line 3, for example, is a very modern metro system with automatically locking doors and modern Inspiro trains from Siemens.

@josephj6521

I loved the stations in the centre of the city with their ancient displays. The metro is like a museum at these stations. Beautiful.

@reececollison5101

Omg you’ve been to Athens! My partner’s originally from Athens so we go every year. Their metro is one of my favourites in the world, lines 2 and 3 so clean and efficient and I love all the trains. Even line 1 is great, being old and even with the trains covered in graffiti it gives it so much character

@bobdimitrakakis8183

Great video about my city, RM Transit! Have been a fan since last year (subed on Nebula) Everything said is very on point, and its awsome to feature in the video all the quirks and features of our systems Some notable additions about transit in athens: 1. Most, if not all, metro stations feature some sort of archaeological pieces on display, because wherever you dig in athens, you find things. From simple artifacts to entire buildings, especially in the stations in the center of athens (syntagma, akropoli, monastiraki) and piraeus. 2. The first underground stations of line 1 (omonoia and victoria), built in the 1930s, have interior design inspired from the berlin u bahn, with yellow and green tiling, something very different compared to the rest of the stations. 3. The new yellow line (4), while not big in distance, will connect some of the most densely populated neighbourhoods of not just athens, but europe in general. 4. The modern Athens Tram, while great, is not a very popular means of transport because it is comparatively slow. The coastline line is very popular in the summer, but the athens center line is not at all. When in planning, it was supposed to have the right of way at intersections, but it never got implemented. Unfortunately, the on-ground planning in athens is still very car-centric, and more expansions of the tram network in athens center and piraeus, while planned, are not scheduled at least for this decade. To give you some context, the whole project of the modern tram network was a mandate in order to host the olympics in 2004 (thats when most of the network was built). 5. The suburban rail, as you said, is the "forgotten child" of athens transit systems. Mostly built in 2004-07, it still has not caught up to its full potential, even though it connects many important sectors, suburbs, port, airport, and center of the city. Reasons why can be traced to the general problems of greek railways, but new stations, expansions and lines are planned till the end of this decade. Those will connect 2 satellite ports, more suburbs, and industrial complexes. (earliest date was 2026, but we needed to divert funds to fix the mainline and branchlines in Central Greece that were damaged due to flooding last September). There is also a literal bottleneck north of Athens central station, because we are upgrading the existing old 2-line ground-level corridor to a new underground 4-line to fit more train traffic. This, along with a general train shortage, make short-term service upgrades almost impossible. When all works and upgrades are complete, train frequency in the center corridor should rival the metro lines, boosting ridership. Definetely check back in 3 years! All in all, it was a great explanatory video, not just for transit nerds around the world but for us locals too. Greetings from Greece!

@user-bv7zo6vd4m

Well, as an athenian I did not expect such high praise. I always thought our transit system was underfunded and not especially well designed. I do see the positives you mentioned, but the main problem is that there is nowhere near enough transit to cover the whole city and so it's always full

@daniels7031

An other fun fact about Athens: it has the largest trollybus network in the western world (which makes sence for such a mountainous city) and the diesel busses are some of the older ones in regular use in europe, featuring O 405s from the 1990s - it is the right kind of weather for them not to rust and the greeks have always been of the persuasion that if it ain't broke, don't fix it and with decent maintanance busses can last for ever. There are generaly speaking lots of classic cars and trucks and busses in Greece, just adds to the apeal of the country as a holliday destination if that's the sort of ting one is in to.

@Dinoteddi

I did like the Athena Tickets in Athens when I visited in 2022. €0.90 got me 90 mins of unlimited rides on all transport. so it was quite cost effective. And the tickets for a few rides on all transit was also great. I wish more cities would have this kind of ticketing system, as it's great for tourists, who may not be able to use their card due to fees, or get/want a pay as you go card

@nicholaskelly1958

Athens and Pireaus also have significant trolleybus systems which link everything together.

@fernbedek6302

Definitely good to learn from smaller cities in Europe and East Asia when trying to learn how to improve your city. Not that many cities are the size of Paris and none are the size of Tokyo, after all.

@fosahistorica2537

Santo Domingo is planning a line 3 similar to the athens one