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The FASTEST Gaming Laptop CPU is Here! 7945HX3D 25 Game Test

Sponsor: Gigabyte & Aorus Gaming Laptops, check out the new models: https://geni.us/ArVfa Check laptop prices with šŸ‘‡ 7945HX3D: https://geni.us/7945HX3D 7945HX: https://geni.us/7945hx 13980HX: https://geni.us/13980hx āš ļø Don't miss out! Save money on your gaming laptop with our daily deals: https://gaminglaptop.deals šŸ’¬ Chat with me and the community in Discord and get behind the scenes videos! https://patreon.com/jarrodstech AMDā€™s new Ryzen 9 7945HX3D is the fastest laptop processor in games, with up to 50% more FPS compared to the next best CPU! At least in one game - it varies, which is why weā€™ve compared 25 games at 3 resolutions to see what the difference is compared to the 7945HX and Intelā€™s best i9-13980HX. EVERYTHING I USE: šŸ’» My Current Laptop - https://geni.us/JarrodsLaptop šŸ–„ļø My Current Desktop PC - https://geni.us/JarrodsPC šŸŽ„ My Camera Gear - https://geni.us/JarrodsStudio šŸ’ My Smart Ring - https://geni.us/oFfTMJ FOLLOW ME: šŸ¦ Twitter - https://twitter.com/jarrodstech šŸŒ My Website - https://jarrods.tech šŸ“ŗ 2nd Channel - https://youtube.com/jarrodslaptops 7945HX3D vs 13980HX vs 7945HX Timestamps: 0:00 Up To 50% Better in Games!? 0:43 Video Sponsor - Gigabyte 1:19 CPU Spec Differences - AMD 1:49 3D V-Cache Layout 2:20 CPU Spec Differences - Intel 2:40 Laptops Tested 4:15 25 Games Tested at 1080p, 1440p & 4K 4:37 Microsoft Flight Simulator - Biggest Difference! 5:10 Spider-Man 5:37 Cyberpunk 2077 6:10 Watch Dogs Legion 6:33 Total War: WARHAMMER III 6:46 Hogwarts Legacy 7:07 Apex Legends 7:32 Far Cry 6 - AMDā€™s Big Comeback 7:57 Shadow of the Tomb Raider 8:11 16 More Games Compared 8:47 7945HX3D vs 7945HX - 25 Game Average at 1080p 9:25 7945HX3D vs 7945HX - 25 Game Average at 1440p 9:41 7945HX3D vs 7945HX - 25 Game Average at 4K 10:06 7945HX3D vs 13980HX - 25 Game Average at 1080p 10:27 7945HX3D vs 13980HX - 25 Game Average at 1440p 10:40 7945HX3D vs 13980HX - 25 Game Average at 4K 10:53 25 Game Average at all 3 Resolutions 11:19 Slow FPS - CCD Problems with 3D V-Cache 13:08 Price Difference & Laptop Deals 14:12 Cost Per Frame (Best Value) 14:33 Thermals & App Testing 14:41 Cinebench R23 - Single / Multi Core Difference 15:13 Temperature Difference 15:32 TDP Difference 15:42 Clock Speed Difference 16:05 Power Draw Difference 16:13 Performance Per Watt (Efficiency) 16:31 Linux Kernel & LLVM Compilation 17:01 All Other Tests (Rendering/Adobe/etc) 17:30 7945HX3D vs 13980HX in all Apps - 65W TDP 17:55 7945HX3D vs 13980HX in all Apps - 130W TDP 18:05 7945HX3D vs 7945HX in all Apps - 65W TDP 18:19 7945HX3D vs 7945HX in all Apps - 130W TDP 18:37 iGPU Game Comparison 18:53 Battery Life Difference 19:16 Is 7945HX3D Worth It? 20:32 WAY More Than Just CPU Differences! Disclosure: Purchases made through store links above may provide some compensation to Jarrod'sTech.

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This gaming laptop has theĀ  fastest mobile CPU in games, with up to 50% more FPS comparedĀ  to the next best option! Itā€™s the new Ryzen 9 7945HX3D, the firstĀ  laptop processor with AMDā€™s 3D V-Cache, which is meant to give us more FPS in games. But just what sort of a boost are we talkingĀ  about? 50% sounds way too high - and it is, thatā€™s just in one game. Results varyĀ  by game, which is why Iā€™ve tested it in 25 games at 3 resolutions and comparedĀ  it against AMDā€™s cheaper 7945HX without the extr
a cache and the best from Intel toĀ  find out if itā€™s really the best laptop CPU! But first, Gigabyte haveĀ  sponsored this part of the video. Gigabyte's high-end Aorus gamingĀ  laptops have been redesigned this year, while budget conscious gamersĀ  are covered by the updated G5. These laptops are more powerful than ever withĀ  Nvidia's latest GeForce RTX 40 series graphics, allowing you to enhance your gamingĀ  experience and get smoother gameplay with DLSS 3 frame generation in the latest titles. An
d Gigabyte have got content creatorsĀ  covered with their newly updated Aero 16 and brand new Aero 14 for ultimate portability. Check out the sponsoredĀ  link below to find out more. Back to the comparison. The main differenceĀ  between the 7945HX3D and 7945HX is that the newer 3D version has double the L3 cache,Ā  which matches AMDā€™s top-end desktop 7950X3D processor! The 3D version has slightly lower baseĀ  clock speed, and although the max boost is the same on the spec sheet, the 3D version won'tĀ 
clock as high on the CCD with the 3D V-Cache. Hereā€™s how the 7945HX3D looks. There are threeĀ  chiplets with the I/O die down the bottom and two CCDs, which each contain 8 CPU cores - justĀ  like the non 3D version. The left CCD is where things get different in the new 3D version,Ā  as these 8 cores have the additional L3 cache. This additional complexity presents aĀ  problem. If your game or application is running on the CCD without the extra cache,Ā  then itā€™s not going to get the FPS boost. Compa
red to Intelā€™s best laptop processor, theĀ  i9-13980HX, AMD is giving us 16 cores and 32 threads, while Intel offers 24 cores and 32Ā  threads. Intelā€™s chips use a hybrid approach, with 8 performance cores and 16Ā  lower powered efficiency cores. Iā€™ve used ASUSā€™s Scar 17 and Scar 18 gamingĀ  laptops to make this testing as fair as possible, with the exact same kit of DDR5-4800Ā  memory tested in all three laptops, as this is the speed ASUS sells them with. Something worth noting is ASUS are not using
Ā  liquid metal with the newer 7945HX3D, and itā€™s not recommended, because it uses differentĀ  materials and may react negatively, resulting in performance degradation over time. The 7945HXĀ  and 13980HX laptops do use liquid metal though. Itā€™s also worth noting the Scar 18 is slightly bigger and has three fans insteadĀ  of two, as it uses a newer design. But the Scar 17 is the only laptop available withĀ  the 7945HX3D right now, and ASUS didnā€™t make a 17 inch version of the Scar with Intel 13thĀ  gen
this year. So this is the best we can do. All three laptops have NvidiaĀ  RTX 4090 mobile graphics, and although this is a CPU comparison, gameĀ  testing has mostly been done at max settings, which may be more GPU heavy,Ā  especially at higher resolutions. The reason for this is that the 7945HX3D isĀ  only available with RTX 4090 graphics, and realistically, if youā€™re buying a laptop with maxĀ  specs like this, letā€™s be real, youā€™re probably not playing games with minimum settings, so IĀ  chose to ma
ke this a more realistic comparison. Alright letā€™s get into the game benchmarks. Weā€™veĀ  tested all three laptops in 25 games at 1080p, 1440p and 4K resolutions. And all gamesĀ  were tested fresh for this comparison with the same drivers, Windows versionsĀ  and game updates. So letā€™s start out with the games and then afterwardsĀ  weā€™ll compare things like thermals, battery life, integrated graphicsĀ  performance and non-gaming workloads. Letā€™s start out with Microsoft Flight Simulator,Ā  because it ha
d the biggest improvement with the 7945HX3D out of all games tested. Iā€™veĀ  got the 1080p results down the bottom, 1440p in the middle, and 4K up the top.Ā  Intel used to have a clear lead over AMD in this game at 1080p and 1440p, but the newer 3DĀ  V-Cache chip is just dominating, reaching a 54% higher average FPS compared to itself without theĀ  cache, or 40% ahead of Intel, a big difference. Spider-Man is another game that saw aĀ  nice FPS improvement with the extra cache, reaching a 32% higher av
erage frame rateĀ  at 1080p compared to the non 3D version, or 16% higher compared to Intelā€™sĀ  best laptop CPU. Like the last game, the differences matter far less at theĀ  higher 4K resolution as itā€™s more GPU bound, but also like the last game, Intel wasnā€™tĀ  quite in-line with both AMD options. The 7945HX3D was 13% faster thanĀ  Intel in Cyberpunk 2077 at 1080p, or 9% faster than the cheaper non-3D version, butĀ  thereā€™s no real difference at 1440p. The RTX 4090 can easily handle 1440p ultra setti
ngs here,Ā  as weā€™re hitting 90 FPS without features like DLSS or frame generation, so youā€™ll probablyĀ  actually play this game on this resolution with the laptopā€™s 1440p screen, meaningĀ  the CPU choice ultimately doesnā€™t matter. Watch Dogs Legion only had a small improvementĀ  at 1440p with the 3D chip, just 6% faster, but at 1080p thereā€™s a much larger 27% boost over theĀ  7945HX, and similar gains compared to Intel. Weā€™ll come back to this game later, as we had slower FPSĀ  on the 3D chip when th
e game ran on the wrong CCD. Although the average FPS wasnā€™t tooĀ  different at all resolutions in Warhammer 3, the dips in performance, shown byĀ  the 1% lows, were higher with AMD, with the extra cache showing the best result. Hogwarts Legacy was a little different. IntelĀ  had the best 1% low results at all resolutions, and even its average FPS was notablyĀ  higher at 4K. Ok itā€™s only like 4 FPS, but at 4K thatā€™s a fair margin when weĀ  should be GPU bound and see no change, but I double checked t
he results and confirmed it. Apex Legends looks a little strange too, butĀ  thatā€™s because of the 300 FPS frame cap at 1080p. At 1440p and 4K the 7945HX3D had aĀ  clear win, so the extra cache may be worth it if youā€™re playing this one competitively at aĀ  higher resolution. Then again, if youā€™re serious about the best FPS to compete you might not evenĀ  be using a laptop or higher resolution anyway. Far Cry 6 also enjoys the extra 3D cache, atĀ  least compared to the non-3D version which was a fair
bit behind at 1080p and 1440p. IntelĀ  was very close in terms of average FPS though, while also producing higher 1% lows at all threeĀ  resolutions, which means better stability for Intel, and Iā€™d argue thatā€™s more importantĀ  when the average FPS difference is so minor. Shadow of the Tomb Raider is an older game, but another where the extra cache was usefulĀ  at lower resolutions, allowing the 3D version to hit a 17% higher average frame rate thanĀ  the non-3D, or 21% faster compared to Intel. For
the most part, the differences arenā€™t quiteĀ  as interesting in the other 16 games that weā€™ve tested. Iā€™ll just quickly skip through the restĀ  of the results on screen now instead of wasting your time talking through every individualĀ  result, so feel free to pause the video if you want a closer look at any of the gamesĀ  tested. All this testing took a full week, but I think itā€™s important to use a wide selectionĀ  of games so that we can get an accurate picture of the average performance differenc
es to makeĀ  the fairest possible conclusion. In other words, more data equals more better. Letā€™sĀ  look at those average differences next. On average over all 25 games tested, at 1080pĀ  AMDā€™s new Ryzen 9 7945HX3D with the extra cache was almost 9% faster compared to the olderĀ  version without the extra cache. This graph shows how much faster or slower the 3D versionĀ  was in each game, so best case Microsoft Flight Simulator at the top was over 50% faster withĀ  the extra cache, while a number of o
ther games also saw nice performance improvements. ManyĀ  of the games saw no real difference though, with only minor swings in either directionĀ  that are within the margin of error range. Stepping up to the higher 1440p resolution andĀ  the 3D processor was now 4% faster on average. There are still a handful of games thatĀ  see nice improvements with the extra cache, but now most of the games only had minorĀ  differences, and this continues at 4K because weā€™re mostly GPU bound now and the CPU diffe
renceĀ  matters less. Apart from a couple of outliers, Apex Legends still loving the extra cache evenĀ  at 4K, and Borderlands 3 seemingly preferring the higher clock speeds without it, all other gamesĀ  were only 2% different one way or the other, which again is margin of error stuff and not aĀ  difference youā€™re likely to notice when playing. The 7945HX3D was ahead of Intel in more gamesĀ  than the 7945HX at 1080p, but on average over all 25 games thereā€™s a slightly smaller 7% leadĀ  compared to the
9% difference seen between the two AMD chips. Again some of the titles see bigĀ  gains with AMDā€™s 3D V-Cache, but these lower at the higher 1440p resolution. Of course some gamesĀ  still had nice FPS improvements with the 7945HX3D, the overall average is just smaller in a widerĀ  selection of games. The difference is again even smaller at 4K. For whatever reasonĀ  Hogwarts Legacy just preferred the Intel laptop at this resolution, but again I doubleĀ  checked it and it's only a 4 FPS difference. Her
eā€™s how frame rates look if we instead takeĀ  the average of all 25 games at all resolutions. I think this better allows us to visually see theĀ  overall difference in a quick and easy summary. This really shows how small the difference isĀ  at 4K, on average the 7945HX basically performs the same as the 7945HX3D, with 1080p showing theĀ  biggest difference in favor of the extra cache. Unfortunately, itā€™s not all smooth sailingĀ  though. There is a problem with this laptop that we need to talk about
beforeĀ  we get to the price difference. Remember how I mentioned earlierĀ  that the game needs to run on the correct CCD with the extra cache? Well,Ā  this doesnā€™t always seem to happen. Take Watch Dogs Legion for example. The first timeĀ  we tested it, it performed about the same on both the 3D and non 3D processors. I re-testedĀ  it again a day later and the FPS from the 3D chip was 29% higher at 1080p and 8% higherĀ  at 1440p. Which shows the first time we ran it, it was either running on the CCD
withoutĀ  V-Cache, or maybe on both CCDs, Iā€™m not sure. It kind of sucks if randomly some games justĀ  might not take advantage of the extra cache, because it defeats the purpose ofĀ  spending more money on the 3D version. Fortunately there is software like Process Lasso,Ā  which basically lets you control which cores a process runs on. I tried used this on the gamesĀ  that didnā€™t show much performance difference between 3D and non-3D processors the first time,Ā  but only identified one other game tha
t was wrong. So just to be clear, in the previous 25 gameĀ  comparisons Iā€™m pretty certain that all of them were running with the extra cache. But atĀ  least 2 of our 25 games didnā€™t automatically open on the right CCD, resulting in performanceĀ  that was similar to the non-3D version. The rest of the games that saw no real differencesĀ  presumably donā€™t care about having more L3 cache. I mean, itā€™s cool that this tool existsĀ  for tweaking, but realistically most people wonā€™t know about it or be awa
re thatĀ  this is how the 7945HX3D operates. Ideally, AMD and Microsoft need to do a better job ofĀ  making sure that games always use the correct CCD. So then, how much more money does the 3DĀ  V-Cache cost? Prices and availability will change over time, so check the links below theĀ  video for updates and current sales. And if any of these laptops do have a good sale weā€™llĀ  be sure to add it to our gaminglaptop.deals website. We update that daily so thatĀ  you can save money on your next gaming lap
top! But sales come and go every day,Ā  so make sure you check it out regularly. At the time of recording, $3400 USD is the bestĀ  price I can see for the ASUS Scar 17 with Ryzen 9 7945HX processor and RTX 4090 graphics.Ā  The Intel based Scar 18 costs $500 more, but it also has double theĀ  SSD space, a larger screen, and a newly updated design, so theĀ  extra money isnā€™t only for the CPU. ASUS told me that the Scar 17 withĀ  7945HX3D has an MSRP of $3700 USD, so $300 extra compared to the non-3DĀ  ve
rsion, but $200 less compared to Intel. Despite the higher cost, itā€™s actually worthĀ  it from a cost per frame perspective if your primary goal is 1080p gaming. And assuming thatĀ  you even care about value if youā€™re spending close to four thousand dollars on a laptop. The IntelĀ  based Scar 18 is the worst value of these three, but again, thereā€™s more than a CPUĀ  difference between these laptops. Gaming is only part of the story though, so letā€™s check out thermals and see howĀ  all CPUs compare in
other applications. Letā€™s start out with Cinebench, as itā€™s a quickĀ  way to get a rough idea of single and multi core performance. Iā€™ve tested both laptopsĀ  with two different power limits in place, 65 watts and 130 watts. Intel wins in singleĀ  core performance, while AMDā€™s lack of lower powered E cores give it the win in multicore.Ā  At 65 watts thereā€™s basically no difference between the 7945HX3D and 7945HX, but with a higherĀ  power limit the new 3D V-Cache version was behind. These are the te
mperatures afterĀ  40 minutes in this workload and the fans maxed out. The newer 7945HX3D ranĀ  the coolest out of all three laptops, despite the fact that itā€™s also the only one thatĀ  doesnā€™t have liquid metal. As mentioned earlier, the material on the 3D versionĀ  prevents the use of liquid metal. None of the laptops were actually hittingĀ  the defined 130 watt limit in this test, because all three laptops were thermal throttlingĀ  first in this workload. The clock speed difference was interesting.
Iā€™ve divided the AMD results intoĀ  the two CCDs, so 8 cores in each. The 7945HX was clocking similarly over both CCDs, while we canĀ  see a bigger difference between the 7945HX3Dā€™s CCDs, because the CCD with the extra cacheĀ  canā€™t clock as high - one of its tradeoffs. The 7945HX3D was drawing the least amount ofĀ  power at the wall, and more power generally means more heat. This puts the 7945HX3D onĀ  top from a performance per watt perspective, at least in this specific workload.Ā  The 7945HX was
scoring 4% higher in this test in terms of performance, butĀ  it used 14% more power to pull that off. Linux kernel and LLVM compilation were the onlyĀ  workloads tested in Linux instead of Windows. Unfortunately Ryzenadj hasnā€™t been updatedĀ  to support these Dragon Range processors, so I wasnā€™t able to power limit them in Linux.Ā  Anyway, I was expecting the extra cache to help the 7945HX3D the most in this workload,Ā  and although it is faster, the difference is only small. But to be fair, I don't
actuallyĀ  know if Ubuntu 23.01 understands 3D V-cache. Honestly, in most other workloads the differenceĀ  between AMDā€™s 7945HX and 7945HX3D were only small. Iā€™m not going to waste your time, so Iā€™llĀ  just quickly skip through all of the tests, but feel free to pause the video if you wantĀ  a closer look at any of the results. As the 3D version isnā€™t much different, thereā€™sĀ  not really any point talking about how the 7945HX3D compares to Intel, as Iā€™ve alreadyĀ  covered that in depth in another vid
eo. AMDā€™s new Ryzen 9 7945HX3D was 13% faster in theseĀ  specific workloads when compared against Intelā€™s 13980HX with both power limited to 65 watts.Ā  Intel has the edge in single core tests, MATLAB, and AES encryption and decryption. AMDā€™s lack ofĀ  lower powered E cores gave it the win in multicore rendering tests though. The gap gets smaller whenĀ  both processors are allowed to run with higher power limits, but AMD was still a little aheadĀ  on average in this selection of workloads. Look, at t
he end of the day, in these specificĀ  workloads the 3D option was barely faster than the non-3D option. Best case weā€™re lookingĀ  at a 5% performance gain with the extra cache with both processors power limited toĀ  65 watts. With the higher 130 watt limit, both could potentially thermal throttle dependingĀ  on the workload, but now the non-3D version had a slight lead. Perhaps its liquid metal isĀ  helping it out, or these workloads donā€™t care about cache so much and the higher clockĀ  speeds from n
on-3D give it the advantage. There wasnā€™t much difference between theĀ  integrated graphics in Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 720p. The extra L3 cache didnā€™t helpĀ  out the 7945HX3D in this game with the iGPU only, like it did in this game earlierĀ  with the Nvidia graphics in use. None of these laptops are able to offer amazingĀ  battery life, but the Intel one was lasting for 57% longer when playing a YouTube videoĀ  on the integrated graphics. In the past, AMD has usually done much better thanĀ  Inte
l here, but that just wasnā€™t the case with these top-end processors. Itā€™s notĀ  looking so great for the Radeon 610M iGPU. So then, is the 7945HX3D worth it? Outside ofĀ  gaming, no, unless you have a specific niche workload that will benefit from more L3 cache, andĀ  I didnā€™t come across any in our usual test suite. As for gaming, well, by the time youā€™reĀ  spending $3400 USD on a 7945HX laptop, an extra $300 is only 9% more money,Ā  which you may be willing to spend if you want the best. Especially
if you planĀ  on playing games at lower resolutions. 9% more money for an average 9% FPS boost atĀ  1080p doesnā€™t sound unreasonable. And if youā€™re playing games that benefit fromĀ  the extra cache, then itā€™s even better. For most people though, the 3D probablyĀ  isn't worth it. The 1440p screen and RTX 4090 graphics mean that youā€™ll probablyĀ  be gaming at 1440p anyway. Maybe even 4K, and the extra cache just mattersĀ  less at those higher resolutions. And then when you throw in the possibility ofĀ 
a game not even running on the correct CCD, and potentially youā€™re payingĀ  more for nothing. But to be fair, that didnā€™t happen too much to us. We onlyĀ  noticed it in 2 out of 25 games. And I can only assume that would improve over time withĀ  updates. But still though, when it happens it kind of makes you wonder why you didnā€™tĀ  just save the $300 going for the non-3D. Thereā€™s way more to the ASUS Scar 17 and ScarĀ  18 than just the CPUs though. Check out one of my detailed reviews over here next
beforeĀ  you buy. These are not cheap gaming laptops, so itā€™s worth spending an extra few minutes to doĀ  some research - Iā€™ll see you in one of those next!

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