welcome to the humaniz podcast it's all about personalizing your health I'm your filling host today Dave Stout uh Rebecca Kelly should be back next time now our topic today is the inflammation equation with Dr Tom O'Brien now I want to say right at the beginning here that that's not just the title of this interview uh this is going to be an event it's a free event and it's going to be a life-changing event and um please stay tuned because we're going to give you all the information you need to p
articipate uh because the you know if you go into health food stores everybody's talking about inflammation and if you want to really understand it well you can listen to our interview but you need to you need to see the inflammation equation now before I introduce Dr Tom I do want to remind everybody subscribe to the human eyes myself podcast we got all kinds of great thought leaders in the world of Natural Health you can get the videos just the audio if that suits you even transcriptions there
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exciting things from him which is one reason why I'm so looking forward to the inflammation equation but he is a recognized World expert on gluten and its impact on health he's an internationally recognized and sought-after speaker and workshop leader uh specializing in complications of non-celiac gluten sensitivity celiac disease and the development um of autoimmune diseases as they occur inside and um outside of the intestines now um I want to start uh by sharing a quote with you that I saved
and and believe it or not it was it was an article about inflammation it was a cover article time or Newsweek when they used to be magazines but um and the the whole quote out of it was inflammation is the engine that drives all chronic diseases would you you agree with that would you say it's a fair statement um yeah it's an accurate statement the Center for Disease Control tells us that 14 of the top 15 causes of death in the world today are chronic inflammatory diseases it's always inflammati
on always and it just depends on your genetics and your antecedants which is a geek word that means how you live your life you know if you eat tuna fish two three times a week you likely have mercury toxicity because almost all the tuna has is high in mercury so that's an anteed so it's the antant and genetics that determine where is the weak Link in your chain you know you pull at a chain it always breaks at the weakest link it's at one end the middle the other end it's your heart your brain yo
ur liver your kidneys it just depends on where your weak link is and the but the pull on the chain is always inflammation without exception you can't show me a disease that is not an inflammatory disease which means okay where's it what what is inflammation it's your immune system fighting really hard you know Mrs patient your immune system is just the armed forces in your body it's the Army the Navy the Air Force the Marines we call them IGA IG IG IGM cyto kindes they're just the Armed Forces t
hey're to protect you so when they are excessively being expressed the question is what are they trying to protect you from so it's extremely rare that your immune system is going crazy it's extremely common that your immune system is fighting much harder than it's supposed to so it's the world that we're living in that's activating our internal defense system our Armed Forces trying to protect us from pesticides insecticides uh uh particulate matter in the air from diesels from the freeways you
know the list goes on and on now we have a new one that just a few weeks ago David you probably heard study came out they developed new technology some laser micro Laser Technology and the average is 240,000 246,000 particles of nanop plastic in a liter of water in a liter bottle of plastic water there's 246,000 nanop particles so we've heard of micr plastics this is nanop Plastics much much smaller and it's this toxic World we're living in that our immune systems are trying so hard to protect
us from now I'm sure um uh you'll get into this and we'll talk about the inflammation equation um I want you to describe it but two things many people say I don't have inflammation because I'm not sore anywhere my joint I will give you I will give you $500 if you do the right tests and you have no inflammation everyone because we all have this chronic inflammatory state that while we feel fine it's like one day you hear your neighbor didn't wake up or your your 44y old neighbor dropped of a hear
t attack or your your 52-year-old friend who's really healthy and try takes care of herself just got diagnosed with stage four cancer really you think it just happened a week before they were diagnosed it's been going on for years this chronic inflam and that's what the inflammation equation is about is that we have this inflammation that we don't know is in our body but it's this excessive inflammatory state that's going on under the surface that causes collateral damage around the inflammation
and that collateral damage is D it's it's damaging tissue and it continues to damage tissue while you feel fine until the tissue is so damaged the tissue can't function correctly anymore whether it is a joint being lubricated properly or a hormone that's not being produced or a neurotransmitter a brain hormone that's out of balance now and here comes depression or Here Comes arthritis or Here Comes psoriasis but this damage is going on under the surface causing dysfunction which eventually caus
es disease which eventually causes disease and then and then we get diagnosed with the disease and then we think we just develop this disease what do I take for to for the symptoms of the disease and we have to one more thing if I may we have to reframe how we think about this to understand you know you know the example I gave I was on stage in India uh last weekend and the example I gave of the the the center that the event was held is a beautiful Center this lovely long driveway uh to enter th
at had beautiful palm trees on both sides you know the Landscaping was spectacular as you're being welcomed to come into the place and what if the groundskeeper was taking one tablespoon of gasoline and putting it around the base of the palm trees doesn't make a difference you know and it goes down to every palm tree one tablespoon of gasoline one tablespoon just once a week a tablespoon of gasoline what happens in a year of a tablespoon a week so that's 52 tablespoons of gasoline around there w
ell you start to alter the soil quite a bit and then what about in the next year and then what about in the next year so what about 246,000 nanop particles of plastic that we're drinking into our body uh when we drink bottled water what about that you think that's that's inert it doesn't have an accumul ative effect no no no let let me give you an example of this because it's just so startling Chicago um 2016 uh 346 pregnant women in the eth month of pregnancy and they did urine test on them to
measure how many Fates did they have in their urine palletes are chemicals used to mold plastic and uh uh they looked at five there are many Fates they just looked at five and one of them being BPA the one most of us have heard about and they took the results and they categorized the women into fourths the lowest amount the next the third and the highest then they followed The Offspring of those pregnancies and when the children turned seven years old they did Wexler IQ tests on all these kids W
exler is the official IQ test now there's not much medicine that's all or every this was every every child whose mother was in the highest category of phalates and urine and pregnancy compared to the children whose mothers were in the lowest quartile every child in the highest quartile their IQ was 7 points lower than the kids in the lowest quartile of plastics and urine in pregnancy seven points and that doesn't mean anything anyone until you know that a onepoint difference in IQ is noticeable
a seven point difference in IQ is a difference between a child working really hard getting straight A's in school and a child working really hard really working it getting straight C's that this child doesn't have a chance in hell of ever excelling then just go to Google and type in phalates and neurogenesis new nerve cell growth here come the studies the higher the phate level the more inhibition in brain cells and nerve cells in growing so Mom who was high in pregnancy with phades baby was swi
mming in a toxic soup in the amnionic fluid and mom was fine there was no complications of pregnancy everything looked good right and it was a healthy birth and baby looks okay but you see these subtle changes that are noticeable when you do the right kinds of measurements and that a a great example of our lifestyles today and the environments that unfortunately we live in today uh we think you know and you know this indoor air pollution is much worse than outdoor air pollution in most places uh
say well my air is fine in my house and there's nothing in my air really really have you ever seen the sun rays sunlight coming through the window at that right angle and you see the dust in the air that's what you're breathing and that dust is is full of phalates and for mahid from the ceiling tiles or flame retardant chemicals from the sofa or from the bed sheets on your bed and those flame retardant chemicals out Gast tiny little amounts of these chemicals that you can't see them you can't s
mell them you can't taste them but they accumulate in your body over the years as what happened for these moms who had high levels of phalates in their body you know you know you put nail polish on and the fates and the nail polish is what's make it's what makes the Polish hard Harden the phalates are in your bloodstream in four to five minutes now there's no evidence that the amount of Fates that leech into your bloodstream is toxic to humans absolutely no evidence from nail polish minute amoun
ts hard to measure but these things are accumulative in the body so give me me a 5-year-old girl that paints her 10 little fingers and 10 little toes once a week for 25 years now she's 30 years old wants to get pregnant gets pregnant hopefully has a healthy pregnancy and a healthy delivery everything's great but then seven years old baby's brain is not working that great and they measure it because Mom was high in fetes in her body it's this accumulative effect that we have to address I want eve
ryone to realize that uh Our Guest Dr Tom O'Brien just just talked uh pretty stunning results on just one environmental Toxin and there's thousands now the interesting thing I I'm making an assumption uh by seeing that the trailer and I want to start talking about the inflammation equation that a lot of what you do a lot of people think oh INF inflammation okay I I should take some fish oil I'll take some turmeric and and that's fine but um I think you're focusing on understanding our lifestyle
the the the food we eat whether it's processed or not how it's done so now the inflammation equation is um a series of informative um you know in a sense movies we can watch online tell us about it and and when we can see it yeah you bet I'd just like to tweak a little what you just said about taking some fish oils or turmeric and it's fine um the problem is it's not getting the job done people still have all of this inflammation but our doctors have not done tests to look at this lowgrade chron
ic inflammation that's under the surface um David Ferman is at the buck Institute of aging and you you may remember Dr Roy Walford who did the biosphere experiments oh yeah yeah yeah right David Ferman was a senior graduate student on the outside monitoring all of that for two years so his entire career has been about aging and anti-aging he published a paper imagine three gears one gear the U and the teeth of one gear are in interconnecting with the second gear and then there's a third gear and
the teeth are connecting to the second gear so the three are connected on the left side of this drawing is the factors in our lifestyle from chronic infections doesn't matter if they're bacterial or viral just chronic infections physical inactivity obesity disbiosis which means too many bad guys not enough Good Guys in your gut uh the food selections we we make uh accumulative stress hormones in our body not really good rejuvenative sleeve and the accumulation of xenobiotics chemicals in our bo
dy so each of the gears is one of those lifestyle habits and so imagine those gear that gear on the left it turns the gear in the middle that also starts turning is your immune system response to these things and that's systemic chronic inflammation that your immune is patient your immune system is just the armed forces in your body just the Army the a Navy the Air Force the Marines we call them IGA IGG IG IGM cyto they're just different branches of the Armed Forces designed to protect you so wh
en you have chronic infections if that's turning your wheel on the left then the immune system responds which the wheel in the middle turns making a response to try to calm down the infection and that turns the wheel on the right and the wheel on the right is non-alcoholic fatty liver disease type two diabetes cardiovascular disease cancer depression anxiety autoimmune diseases sarcopenia osteoporosis uh neurodegenerative disease it doesn't matter this a name but a few right right this is the me
chanism in the development of every chronic disease and this comes from David Ferman who has a contract with NASA to figure out why are the astronauts aging so quickly in space because there it's it's impossible for a human to go to Mars they'll die on the way you know it's about a two-year uh trip but they'll die on the way of old age and uh Fermin's group has figured out what it is it's accelerated inflammation and so they're they're moving from that perspective how can we help minimize the in
flammation so he's been doing so much of the research on the impact of inflammation so he did this basic diagram and when you look at it it's a oh that makes sense that just makes sense that when there's too much of the wrong kind of thing coming into my body whether it's stress hormones or too much of the wrong kinds of foods that activates my immune system trying to protect me trying to protect me from something which then when it gets excessive amounts of inflammation you get collateral damag
e the collateral damage uh causes dysfunction that causes disease that causes disease it's a stepbystep process that's all mapped out in the science it's really clear but and all of our doctors if they listen to this they go yeah yeah that's true all right so I'll I'll give the patient something for the inflammation no you have to address the gasoline that's being thrown on the fire you know uh of course of course you want to take something to reduce the symptoms you have high blood pressure of
course you take the medication but you also address why do I have high blood pressure right thank you thank you well and and that's what I mean I think um what I got the you've laid out and I think anyone who thinks and I I'm not against taking fish or turmeric Etc but anyone who thinks that all this is going to go away just because you take good amount of fish oil um it's not a bad strategy to assist but I think when we watch the uh inflammation equation I I'm assuming we're going to really get
an understanding of all of those things you mentioned in our environment the toxins the stress hormones all the things we do that spin that gear that that caused the process and now it um so is this going to be uh when is this going to start and again March free it's all free it's all free it starts March the 20th and uh uh it'll be Evergreen uh which means it'll be um able to be viewed forever after that let me give you an example my friend good friend of many many years we're on faculty toget
her at The Institute for Functional Medicine Dr Patrick Hanway okay Patrick um uh he helped found the the Cleveland Clinic Center for functional medicine which um there's so much we could say about that but for now uh Patrick was diagnosed about I think it was six years ago now with stage four throat cancer and so in my interview with Patrick for the inflammation equation I said uh Patrick you've have been a a Pioneer and a leader in the world of functional medicine longer than me you know I me
we've been at this for a while but you've been at it longer uh on stage doing this than I was what did you miss and he looked at me how did you develop stage four cancer right what did you miss and he just looked and he smiled said well no one's ever asked me that but that's a really good question because Patrick eats organic Patrick does the right kind of things and he shares his story about how uh he um thought that he could just push and push and push and push and he said something really int
eresting he said you know if they had told me I had stage one or maybe even stage two I pretty much would have ignored it I you know I would have done a number of things of course but I wouldn't stop in my tracks but stage four there's no arguing I would be dead in a year uh if I didn't re-evaluate my entire life in my entire lifestyle and I was pushing way too hard and the stress hormones were the fuel on the fire that manifested for me as throat cancer I mean it's that kind of profound informa
tion that you get you know um I'll tell you another one uh Fran drer uh the nanny nanny yeah Fran and I I intervie and I said to Fran what is it that you're not saying to us and she looked at me you know because Fran founded cancer schmancer and it's a great great organization is that great yeah that's that's Fran I don't know her but that sounds like Fran right right it's a great organization and I speak at her event every year but I said what is that you're not saying saying Fran and she said
someone broke into my house and raped me I didn't tell anybody and I went to work the next day within a year and a half I de I developed a hormon related cancer you must deal with your emotions you must deal with the buried crap in your life that eats away at you or it will eat you away that's the kind of stuff that you're going to get it's like what what and then we're going to talk about what do you do about this stuff how do you find out if that information relates to me every day it'll be on
e hour a day for eight or nine days we're not sure yet on the last day uh okay but again it's it's people can register and it's free it's free it's all free yeah and then um uh there will be a 15minute discussion at the end of each day myself and my partner Tom malter and was said can you believe when Dr Jeff Bland said this and then Fran drer said that wow well that meant that well well so what do we do about that well let's talk about how do you clean the air in your home well NASA did NASA di
d the studies that show house plants absorb 74% of the toxins in the air and then here's the handout for H house plants which house plants do that and so it it's going to be an implementable experience for people we're we're not crying wolf we we are crying wolf it's like wake up World wake up but then we're talking about how do you put the wolf at Bay what you do that and that's what I want that's what I want people to get we probably um as we wrap this up we probably got enough information to
sort of get us like oh my God you know what should I do and that's the point if you want to know what to do about this this because we touched on two or three specific things but there are many teeth on those gears that get this inflammation equation turning and if you'll participate in this event again you're going to learn practical things you can do and it's not about supplements not that they can't help but I you need to understand that it's the lifestyle it's the things around you it's the
air you breathe the water you drink the foods you eat or don't eat and I'm I'm really excited about this um and I hope everybody will tune in we will give you um as as we close up some written information on here so you can uh I'm not going to give out the websites and have everybody forget it but we're going to give you all the information you need to go on I you should watch the trailer like I did register and um make some plans to be in front of your computer so that you can watch this and an
d uh Dr Tom first of all thank you for you know participating in this I'm sure there a lot of other people that did hard work but um you have got your finger on on like the big trigger of of what's going on uh with our health and why we are aging so poorly you know we may live longer because of Crisis and things but um uh this is doing God's work absolutely thank you David thank you so much may I give you one more Point absolutely thank you and thank you for your kind words that's really nice th
ank you um uh there was an article in the New England Journal of Medicine in 2007 that rocked the world because it made us realize something that we don't think about and that is the topic of network medicine you know there's something called the FG Frank Thomas Oscar fto Gene and it's a gene of obesity it's a common Gene of obesity and we get one from our mother one from our father and if you have one fto gene you have a 30% increased risk of developing obesity in your life okay we know that if
you have two F fto genes one from your mother one from your father you have a 67% increased risk of developing obesity in your life now that's really important to know because one sixth of the population of European descent has two FD genes so that means we're vulnerable to De uh developing obesity it doesn't mean you're going to get it it means you're really it's a weak Link in your chain but here's the kicker if one friend became obese during a given time interval of being friends with anothe
r person the other friends chances of following suit and developing obesity was 171% that's like what once again if you have two genes it was 61% increased risk of developing obesity but if you're the if you're the friend of Someone Who develops obesity while you're friends you have 171% increased risk of developing obesity that's Network medicine that that we're all intertwined together so when you register for this event invite a friend who you feel close to or that you want to develop this th
is exercise with that you can talk to about what you heard that day or may maybe uh David your group will want to have discussions every day or something you know where people can get together and talk wow wow you know for me that made a whole lot of sense because dot dot dot oh yeah I felt that way too you know that when you have a friend and you're not trying to do something alone in terms of altering how you do everyday life you're much more likely to be successful just the fact that you're n
ot even just identifying the problem which of course is step one but prevent uh presenting Solutions now I do want to thank uh Dr Tom for being on today now his website is www. and it's the doctor but it's just t h d let's make it simple the now um go ahead and what is the website where people can register for the inflammation equation right it's uh www the inflammation equation.com well that's that's not hard folks I don't need to spell it out for you but um uh I'll remind you again go to human
iz health.com and get all of our content and um we appreciate you listening uh this this interview is a little longer but it's important and I think uh just from the little taste you got here from Dr O'Brien you're going to want to watch the inflammation equation Dr Brian thanks so much for being with us today
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