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The Philosophy of Kreia: A Critical Examination of Star Wars

The character Kreia from the game Knights of the Old Republic 2 is arguably one of the greatest female characters in gaming. However, despite her fame, much of her philosophy has been misunderstood due to the puzzling manner in which the game presents her backstory and motives. This video will serve both as an examination of Kreia's philosophy and her criticisms of the Star Wars universe as a whole. Chris Avellone famously said in an interview that Knights of the Old Republic 2 was meant to question everything there had to be questioned about Star Wars. This video will be answering those questions. This video has been five months in the making. 0:00 - Introduction 2:28 - The Jedi Code 3:56 - Jedi/Buddhist Philosophy comparison 5:10 - The Sith Code 6:24 - Nietzsche/Sith Philosophy Comparison 7:10 - The Duality of Kreia 8:25 - Atris's Path mirroring Kreia's Past 9:49 - Arren Kae's "Fall" from the Jedi Order 11:30 - Darth Traya's Origins 12:50 - Why Jedi Keep Falling to the Dark Side 17:50 - Anakin's Example 19:50 - Jolee Bindo's Rejection of Traditional Jedi teaching 21:05 - Luke's Conflict with the Code 21:52 - The Self-Destruction of Altruism 24:30 - On Jedi Training Children 26:20 - The Sith's Repeating Pattern 27:10 - Yuthura Ban's Story 29:12 - Anakin's Emotional Entrapment 32:18 - Master Morality 34:58 - The Emptiness of Revenge 37:50 - What Defines Kreia? 39:40 - The Ithorians vs Czerka Corporation 43:10 - Kreia's Iconic parable on Kindness/Cruelty 47:00 - Nar Shadda's Lessons in Manipulation 55:11 - A Lesson in Strength and Power 1:02:52 - Kreia's Motivation 1:04:47 - Jolee Bindo's parable of Master Hortath 1:07:12 - The Jedi Masters' Judgment of the Exile 1:09:02 - Kreia's Judgment of the Jedi Masters 1:09:34 - The Revelation of Atris' Fall 1:10:50 - Jedi/Sith Similarities 1:12:20 - Lightsabers' Symbolic Colours 1:13:50 - Corruption of the Dark Side 1:14:56 - The Weaknesses of Dependence on the Force 1:22:03 - Master Morality vs Slave Morality 1:26:00 - Why Kreia Hates the Force 1:28:53 - Free Will/Choice vs Fate/Destiny 1:35:42 - An Unsettling Recurrence of Events 1:37:00 - Kreia's Grand Schemes 1:41:28 - Name Symbolism 1:42:48 - The Significance of the Exile and Malachor 1:49:28 - Kreia's Final Wish 1:50:52 - Luke's Original Purpose 1:51:44 - Conclusion

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I am but a mirror whose only purpose is to show you what your own eyes cannot yet see. Whenever people list their favorite well-written character in gaming, Kreia tends to be brought up as a shining example. With her Shakespearean mannerism and Machiavellian attitude, she is without a doubt, one of the most interesting and fleshed out characters in gaming. Her reputation primarily comes from her philosophy that tends to be often misunderstood both in all world and in the story itself. However, n
o matter how well-written of a character she may be, Kreia does not exist in a vacuum. To be able to fully understand Kreia and her philosophy, some background information about the Jedi and Sith ideologies and their differences is required. In the original Star Wars movie, there was never any defined philosophical distinction between the Jedi and Sith. We only understood that the Jedi were good, and that the Sith were evil. There are some thematic hints such as the Jedi being in tune with natur
e, while the Empire and the Sith rely on on cold technology. The first hint of a philosophical explanation came from Yoda in the Empire Strikes Back. Later, new materials was added in the Star Wars Expanded Universe, over the years, that fleshed out the Jedi and Sith. But it was only when the game Knights of the Old Republic was released that the Jedi and Sith were each given a coherent ideology. The core of each faction's belief can be understood from their code that outlined the principle tene
ts of how one should live their life in relation to the Force. Let's start with the Jedi Code. By itself, the Jedi Code makes little sense and has brought up a lot of confusion. For example, the very first line: ''there is no emotion there is peace'' is often misinterpreted at the code saying that there's no such thing as emotions. It is only when you add the word 'when' to each sentence that the Jedi Code becomes understandable. When there is no emotion there is peace. When there is no ignoranc
e there is knowledge. When there is no passion there is serenity. When there is no chaos there is harmony. Essentially, most of the Jedi Code is repeating the same axiom that when there is no conflict or emotions peace is achieved. The last line of the code could be taken as literal. There is no death there is the Force. When you die, you become one with the Force. But it could also be understood that when there is no death there is the Force. Meaning that everything that is living is connected
to the Force. Both interpretations are valid. The real world equivalent of the Jedi Code is Buddhist philosophy which is appropriate as the Jedi are essentially space wizards samurai monks. The Force, itself a living energy, found in all thing, that binds the universe together is similarly shared in Buddhist philosophy called prāna. It's also commonly known as Chi energy and other different names. By being at peace, you can become in tune with life in the universe. Meditation is a key aspect of
Buddhism that is often used by the Jedi to center themselves and remain calm. Buddhism has myriad's of teachings and schools of thoughts, but the core shared belief is that all suffering is caused by desires which creates conflict. Much like the Jedi, Buddhism preaches, tranquility, peace and only using your strength for self-defense. In contrast, the Sith never had much in terms of philosophy in any of the movies. The Emperor was evil for the sake of evil. And Vader was nothing more than a brok
en man in a shell. It is only in the first Knights of your Republic game that the Sith were given a proper ideological foundation that went beyond the simple grapples of being evil. On Korriban, the Sith code is introduced as an alternative to the Jedi Code. "Peace is a lie, there is only passion." "Through passion, I gain strength." "Through strength, I gain power." "Through power, I gain victory." "Through victory, my chains are broken." "The Force shall free me." The first line: ''that peace
is a lie there is only passion'' is a direct refutation of the Jedi axiom that peace can only be found if there are no emotions, and in turn it becomes the axiom of the Sith. "The Jedi would have you believe that peace is a desirable goal. That peace of the spirit is the way the Force is mastered, that a lack of conflict betters man." "We know different. It is our passion, our hate and our desires that fuel the Force. It is conflict that improves the lot of civilization and single being both." "
Conflict forces one to better oneself. It forces change, growth, adaption, evolution, or death." "These are not our laws but the universe's. Without conflict, there is only stagnation." Just like the Jedi, the Sith equally follow a real-world equivalent: the philosophy of Nietzsche. He similarly valued conflict to better oneself-- to use your will to create meaning. The well-known quote: ''what doesn't kill you makes you stronger'' very much defines the Sith as an ideology. By affirming your lif
e and imposing your will you can change the world and mold that as you see fit with your power. This is the ideological groundwork of both philosophies and in idealized manner. And, like all philosophies at the conceptual and abstract level, it is only how we understand how they are applied that we see their strengths and failings. So now that we have some basic context for the Jedi and Sith, we can dive deeper into what makes Kreia so interesting. Among the canon of Star Wars, Kreia is unique b
ecause she experienced the pinnacles of the Jedi and Sith and saw their failings. Kreia's life history gives us an insight to what she learned among those groups. However, her life story isn't told in a linear fashion. We need to piece together the clues that are scattered throughout the game. Since the early days, there is a popular theory that Kreia is the Jedi Master Arren Kae who trained Revan as a Padawan. This is correct but it's not a complete truth. What is important to understand is tha
t Kreia was known as Arren Kae in the early days of her life. I'll explain why later. Kae was a historian and Jedi Master. She strongly believed in the Jedi Code but found that it lacked something. She saw that the Jedi Order were failing their students as many kept falling to the Dark Side continuously. The allure of power and the call of the Dark Side is always present but it doesn't explain why the Jedi would constantly fall despite their training. There was something missing in the Jedi Code
itself. Unlike the rest of the Jedi that ignored the teachings of the Sith and viewed it as taboo. Kae learned the contrast to see she could strengthen the Jedi by understanding what made the Sith it so alluring. When you ask Kreia about Atris, she mentioned that Atris mirrors a stage of her own past life. "Because Atris' path is a path that I walked long ago. And it is a chapter of my life that has been read and closed." "She has taken the first steps I think, we shall see." "Surely you felt t
he righteous anger. The spoken judgement, the lack of forgiveness." "I was a historian once, gathering the relics of the Jedi, learning the ancient mysteries." "Always there were more questions." "One quickly learns that the Jedi Code does not give all the answers." "If you truly wish to understand, you will need the contrast. Not adherence to a single idea." "That is why Atris and the others blamed me, sentenced me; they believed me for Revan's fall." This is likely how Kae used to be before s
he joined the Mandalorian Wars. "I was a historian, a chronicler of the Jedi." "I sought to preserve the knowledge of the Jedi, and to do that I needed to know the Sith, in order to destroy them." "The Jedi were that was left to me. And yet I was so far removed from them that I betrayed them." "In some part of me, I had made choices, compromises, but always for the sake of the Republic, for the galaxy." Kae likely advocated Sith values such as the value of conflict which other Jedi Masters despi
sed. This was the beginning of her fall from the Jedi Order. During that period, Kae met the Echani general Yusanis and fell in love. When the male Exile spars with the Handmaiden Brianna, the daughter of Kae, Kreia wonders what would happen if you continued to spar. "Have you ever wondered what it would mean in the Echanni ritual if the two of you spared and you fought and won, complete and utterly? "If perhaps she would give in, surrender herself to you?" To me, this seems too insightful and p
ersonal to be a simple observation. This is likely what happened: Kae sparred with Yusanis, repeatedly, then submitted to him and fell in love. Just as her daughter that denounced her oath to Atris, Kae denounced her oath to the Jedi Order. What Kae did during the war and afterwards is a mystery. She fought under Revan with Yusanis but nothing much as know afterwards. The Jedi Master Kavar and the Handmaiden Brianna assume that Kae had died at Malachor V. "I never saw her face. And she did not r
eturn from the final battle of the war. She died on the battle that shattered Malachor V." "I thought that you died in the Mandalorian Wars." "Died? No. Become stronger. Yes. At that point, history becomes even more uncertain. Kae fell deeper to the Dark Side and despised the Jedi for exiling her. There are no hints of what happened before Kae became known as Darth Traya. During and after the events of the first Knights of the old Republic game until the beginning of the Knights of the old Repub
lic 2 game, Traya trained Nihilus and Sion. Nothing is known about the origins of both men other that they were tragedies of the Mandalorian Wars. That is when Darth Traya reached the height of her power. And from that pinnacle of power, she was stripped of her connection to the Force. And it was at that moment that Kreia was born. At that point, it's not entirely known how Kreia escaped death and found the Exile. I would like to think that Revan ended up on Malachor V with the Ebon Hawk and Kre
ia escaped using the ship. On the Harbingers log, it reports that the Ebon Hawk was under attack from a Sith Warship. It is very likely that he (Sion) was trying to capture her and Kreia just happened to find the Exile by '''''''''chance''''''''. And that's the events that lead up to the beginning of the game. So this is the basic overview of her long life history. It will be important as a reference of the foundation of Kreia's philosophy. The reasons why Kreia eventually left the Jedi Order gi
ves us a greater understanding of their failings. Just like Atris, Kae sought to understand why so many of the greatest of the Jedi fell to the Dark Side despite their training. The Disciple and the Jedi Masters Zez Kai-Ell ponder on this point: "From the failures of the masters, from our failures to properly train Jedi came disaster. led disaster." "And I wondered if perhaps the teachings of the Jedi had been our failling all along." "There have been so many failure from teachers who believed i
n the code with all their being." "Master Arka failed Ulic. As Master Bass failed Exar Kunn." "As Kae and Zhar and the others of the council failed Revan and Malak." "From all the acts we do to preserve the galaxy, from such an arrogance that all we do right and just, I wonder if there is a counter-effect that is created that strikes back at us." "Exar Kunn, Ulic Qel-Droma, Malak, Revan, you, all Jedi; there is something wrong in the Force, a wound, a sound, like a scream." ""You can hear it ech
o on Narshadaa sometimes when the moon is on orbit." "It is a frightening thing to feel. Perhaps being connected to all life is not enlightenment at all, but simply another doom." "But the reason the Jedi Civil War was named such is because few in the galaxy can recognize the difference between the Sith and the Jedi. "To them, they are both Jedi, with different philosophies." "Jedi often fall. They caused much harm on Onderon in the name of peace and protection." "Ulic Qel-Droma and Exar Kunn,
the two Dark Lords during the Sith Wars many decades ago were both Jedi Knights. As were Revan and Malak." "It is perhaps more amazing that some trust Jedi after so many have fallen and endangered the galaxy." "It is also proof that a single Force Wielder can change the face of the galaxy. And that is a frightening thing indeed." "Jedi are not supposed to be like the rest of us. They're supposed to see a higher purpose in all things." "And, they are supposed to train students responsible and wel
l so that the mistakes of the past are not repeated." "Yet all I saw was ignorance and arrogance, and what those seeds created in the Republic." "It is difficult to follow the Jedi Code when so few others have." "I harbour... doubts, concerning the Jedi." "Many Jedi defined the Order during the Mandalorian Wars and it paved the way towards the Jedi Civil War." "The students made their own choices, as much as the histories tell us." "Perhaps I judged the Masters unfairly, yet I still wondered why
they did not rise to stop such threats earlier. Or perhaps they did not see them?" "Master Arka taught Ulic. Master Bass was the one that saw that Exar Kunn would become, yet he took no steps to stop him." "Master Zhar taught Malak. And Revan had many Masters including Zhar, Kae and Dorak." "Towards the end of the training, Revan saught out many other Masters to learn certain techniques." "And it is said that he went to his first and final Master to learn how best to leave the Order as she had.
And such teachings and their teachers is why I harbour doubts, why I wonder if there is something missing from the Jedi Code." "There is no blame - all must accept. But, at its core, one must wonder if it was the failure of the Jedi teachings or the teachers themselves." "Many of the Jedi trained Exar Kunn, Ulic, Revan and Malak; how could they not see the danger they posed?" "And if they could not, perhaps there was some essential part of their teachings that was flawed. Something beyond the J
edi Code that they were missing." The Jedi Code does not offer all the answers because it lacks something instinctual to all of life. The axiom that peace can only be obtained if there are no conflict hides a deeper truth: peace can only be achieved if there is no ego. What the Jedi lack is the ability of being human and finding value in their life. The Jedi understood, maybe unconsciously, that if anyone were allowed to seek conflict, to have adventures, to make friends, love, or just live l
ife; it would lead people down the path to the Dark Side. The Jedi cannot permit *any* to have a sense of pride or desires. They train those who are Force Sensitive so that they may you lock their abilities for the good of the galaxy. They adhere so strongly to the Jedi Code as a suppression of all conflict which only weakens them and doesn't actually prevent some from falling to the Dark Side. This can be seen as a major failing of the Jedi with Anakin in the prequel movies. "Are the Jedi all
owed to love? I thought that was forbidden for a Jedi?" "Attachments are forbidden." "Possession is forbidden." "Compassion, which I would define as unconditional love (also known as Agape), is central to a Jedi's life." "So you might say that we are encouraged to love." Anakin loved Padme and feared losing her like he did with his mother. He went to see Yoda for some counsel and the only advice that was given was some Buddhist anti-life lessons. "Careful you must be when sensing the future, Ana
kin. The fear of loss is a path to the Dark Side." "I won't let these visions come true, Master Yoda." "Death is a natural part of life." "Rejoice for those around you who transform into the Force. Mourn them do not miss them do not." "Attachment leads to jealousy. The shadow of Greed that is." "What must I do Master Yoda?" "Train yourself to Let Go of everything you fear to lose." That's an easy thing to say when you don't value anything to be at peace. Anakin couldn't accept losing Padme becau
se he loved her, and it brought him down the path to the Dark Side and the destruction of the Jedi Order. "I have failed you Anakin, I have failed you." Forming bonds and having emotional value towards others makes you weaker and susceptible to the Dark Side but it also makes you human. This is a lesson that the Jedi do not teach. It is something Jolee Bindo references as well in the first Knights of New Republic game. "The Jedi, and their damnable sense of over-caution would tell you that love
is something to avoid." "Thankfully, anyone who's even partially alive knows that's not true." (Note: Jolee is wrong here; Love *DOES* lead to the Dark Side. Watch my video The Philosophy of Jolee Bindo to understand why) "Love doesn't lead to the Dark Side." (Note: Jolee is wrong here; Love *DOES* lead to the Dark Side. Watch my video The Philosophy of Jolee Bindo to understand why) "Passion can lead to rage and fear, and can be controlled, but passion is not the same thing as love." (Note: Jol
ee is VERY wrong here; Love *DOES* condemn you.) "Controlling your passions while being in love, that's what the Jedi should teach you to beware. But love, itself will save you, not condemn you." (Note: Jolee is VERY wrong here; Love *DOES* condemn you.) "Love causes pain, certainly, inevitably, love will lead to as much sorrow and regret as it does joy." "And how you deal with the bad part of love determines your character, what determines the dark side's hold over you." "A life without risk is
boring. You want love? You have to fight for it." The Jedi teach their followers to become automatons by following the code and lose their connections to humanity in the process. But even through such rigid trainings, human nature persists; it seeks conflict, desires adventures. It wants to exist and live! The greater your connections to life and to others, the more you are susceptible to falling to the Dark Side. This is echoed with Luke in the Empire Strikes Back when he starts to have vi
sions of his friends being tortured in the possibility of them dying. "Luke, you must complete the training." "Argh. I can't keep the vision out of my head; they're my friends and I have to help them." "You must not go." "But Han and Leia will die if I don't." "Patience." "And sacrifice Han and Leia?" "If you honor what they fight for? Yes." And Yoda was right as it was a trap but what is interesting is Luke's decision after Vader offers to join forces with him to defeat the Emperor. He follows
the Jedi way by sacrificing himself rather than falling to the Dark Side and causing more suffering. "It's all about the greater good..." "The greater good!" The basic principle of altruism is that a person has no right to exist their own sake and must serve others as the only justification for their existence. With self-sacrifice being the highest moral duty, virtue and value. Duty is the moral necessity to perform certain action with no reason other than the obedience of some higher authori
ty and purpose without any regards to personal goals motives or desires. The core of altruism is self-destruction and the view that the self is evil with selflessness being the standard of the good. "The Jedi use their power for good." "Good is a point of view, Anakin." "The Jedi are selfless. They only care about others." After you free Atton from his prison cell on Peragus, the Exile has to go down a shaft to find a way back to the Ebon Hawk. Atton warns that it's suicide. One of the dialogue
options is saying that a Jedi's life is sacrifice and therefore there is nothing to fear. After you escape the station of Peragus, Kreia talks about starting a war with these new Sith. And, again, the Exile has a dialogue option that a Jedi's life is sacrifice. This teaching principle is echoed throughout the game with the Jedi Master Zez-Kai-Ell on Nar Shaddaa and the Jedi Master Kavar on Dantooine. In Nietzschean terms, the Jedi are the embodiment of Slave Morality. The essence of Slave Mora
lity is utility for unity; the good that is the most useful to the whole community at the expense of the individual. Another way of seeing this is that the Jedi are apathetic to the suffering of all life in the galaxy, and only help out of obligation when they are nearby, not because they want to change anything or help. The Jedi are preventing the greater evil by not using their power to mold the galaxy as they see fit. If we look at the Jedi from a lifelong linear experience, it gives a gre
ater overview of how the Jedi teaching are anti-life. At a very young age the Jedi remove children that are Force-Sensitive from their families so that they may not form connections with their parents. "The Jedi separate children from their parents." "It is because family exert a strong influence on one's development." Some people were surprised that the Jedi initially rejected Anakin to be trained when he was only 9 years old. "He's too old." It made sense for Yoda to reject Luke, as he was alr
eady an adult. "He is too old, too old to begin the training." But... even Anakin, at his age, was too old? The Jedi Council correctly sensed that Anakin had already formed connections with his mother and feared losing her. "See through you, we can." "Be mindful of your feelings." "Your thoughts dwell on your mother." "I miss her." "Afraid to lose her, I think, hmm?" "What does that have to do with anything?" "Everything." "Fear is the path to the Dark Side." "Fear leads to anger, anger leads to
hate, hate leads to suffering." The key point is emotional bonds. The younglings grow up with their first memories being with a Jedi, only knowing the Jedi way, never forming any connections; learning the higher mysteries of the Force and its techniques. They become zen, losing their ego, forgoing any selfish desires to never succumb to the Dark Side, teach a new generation this process and then die of old age. What kind of life is that? It's such a waste of life and their time alive. By teac
hing their students never to value their life, never seeking any selfish desires and to accept their death as a natural part of life, the Jedi Code destroys human nature. "I do not want to train you to become a Jedi Knight. I want you to learn to be human." You would assume that the Sith are more humane than the Jedi by being more individualistic. But, ironically, they're even worse! Their failing is that they become so consumed by their lust for power that they forget why they fell to the Dark
Side in the first place; becoming monsters that bring doom to the galaxy. But throughout that quest for power, what have the Sith achieved? What changes or value have they brought to the galaxy? Nothing. This rise and fall of the Sith is a life story that is echoed many times in the Star Wars Canon. The pull of the Dark Side is that once you fall you become unaware that you desire more power for the sake of power until you become an agent of evil. In the first Knights of the old Republic game,
you can talk with the Sith Yuthura Ban about her past. She reveals her life story about how she joined the Sith. "I am originally from Sleheyron, if you must know. I was a slave to a cruel master, Omeesh the Hutt." "The Hutts control everything on Sleheyron, and a slave means nothing to them." "I was determined not to be 'nothing.' "One night when the drunken worm had me alone in his chambers, I stabbed him and escaped the compound." "I stole onto a cargo ship and was not discovered by the crew
until they reached the next system." "They left me for dead on a desolate planetoid, alone. But that was fine by me. I was glad to be anywhere other than Sleheyron." "It was not luck that I was eventually rescued, of course. The Force was strong with me, though I didn't know it at the time. Not until the Jedi told me, that is." "They took me in and trained me even though I was older than most Padawans." "I never progressed beyond Padawan. I had discipline, but no peace. And after my treatment at
the hands of the Hutts there was little room in me for the ways of the Jedi." "I wanted to use the Force to free the other slaves I knew, to fight for what I knew was right. " "The Jedi restained me until I couldn't stand it any more." "The claim the dark side is evil, but it isn't so." "Sometimes anger and hatred are deserved and right. Sometimes change because of it." "Being a Sith doesn't make me a monster, however." "There is suffering and injustice in the universe. I am surprised the Jedi
can even stand the stench of it, much less stand by and do nothing." "Any failure to get the result I want is due to a lack of power on my part. That can change, in time." "But my anger has not diminished, nor my desire to see change." "But my anger has not diminished, nor my desire to see change. The more time O spend with the Sith, the more I am certain that one day I will be able to fight as I must." She remained trapped, trying to become the next leader of the Sith Academy for more power,
rather than achieve her dreams. "All the things I wanted to do, all the wrongs I wanted to right. I haven't done any of it. They just get father and father from my mind." "All I've cared about is power and myself. This isn't the person I was." This is echoed similarly with Anakin when he joined the Sith to prevent the visions of Padme's death. After committing his path down the Dark Side by killing the younglings and eradicating the separatist leaders, Padme tried to bring him back from the Dark
Side but... it was already too late. "You turned to the Dark Side. You killed Younglings." "Anakin, all I want is your love." "Love won't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that." "But at what cost? You're a good person. Don't do this." "I won't lose you the way I lost my mother." "I am becoming more powerful than any Jedi has ever dreamed of. And I'm doing it for you, to protect you." "Come away with me. Help me raise our child. Leave everything else behind while we still can." "Don't
you see? We don't have to run away anymore. I have brought peace to the Republic." "I am more powerful than the Chancellor. I-I can overthrow him." "And together you and I can rule the galaxy. Make things the way we want them to be." (God I love that evil smile) "I can't believe what I'm hearing. Obi-Wan was right: you've changed." "I don't know you anymore. Anakin, you're breaking my heart." "You're going down a path I can't follow." "Because of Obi-Wan?" "Because of what you've done. What you
plan to do." There is an alternative ending in the Revenge of the Sith game where Anakin won his duel against Obi-wan on Mustafar. it shows his further descent towards the Dark Side and his desire of being in control. "It's over Anakin, I have the highground." >implying high ground memes are real "You underestimate the power of the Dark Side." "Don't try it." "Excellent work my apprentice. There are none left to oppose us. The galaxy is ours now." "Your new weapon Lord Vader." "No. The galaxy b
elongs to me." This is part of what Kreia understood when she lost her power and connection to the Force. She squabbled to obtain power for years, had the ability to change whatever she desired, and, in the end, she lost everything and changed nothing. "I wielded power like you cannot imagine." "Everything I saw was awash with possibility, spreading outwards, touching everything." "I saw all of that, all that the Force is. And only when it was ripped from me did I truly see it." In Nietzschean
terms, the Sith are the embodiment of Master morality. The essence of Master morality is individual strength that promotes power and influence. Another way of seeing this is that the Sith only care about themselves and consider everything that furthers their power to be good while anything that diminishes their power to be bad. "Unlimited Power!'' There's nothing wrong with seeking power as it is the nature of all life to impose their will on the world but when you amass yourself among people
who only seek power for the sake of power rather than seeking progress or to change anything, it becomes self-destructive to the point where nothing is achieved. "I had a name once. Ajunta Pall. Yes, that was my name." "I was one of many. We were servants of the Dark Side. Sith Lords, we called ourselves. So proud." "We hid from the Jedi, but is was not they who destroyed us. Is it not obvious what we did?" "We destroyed each other. We desired the secret of each other, to increase our power. "We
battled until finally, our fortress rained down on top of us." "The ancient Sith destroyed each other. The fundamental flaw in their philosophy, one would think." "I assume that's the nature of the Dark Side: power but no longevity. Eventually, it just consumes itself." "The Sith respect order and control, that is true. But few ever hold that power for long." "To see their philosophy at work is like watching a continual collapse. Just like watching their academy fall in on itself." The Sith, as
an ideology, is unsustainable, and leads to death rather than overall improvement. And, as a continual lifestyle, it is vain and does not provide any amount of peace. This lack of fulfillment is heavily reflected with Sion. His only goal was to destroy the Jedi and bring pain to the galaxy. After you defeat him on Malachor V, you can ask him: ''was it worth it?'' And he tells you the truth. "It was not. No matter how many I killed. There was no end to the pain; the blades the Force tore throug
h my flesh. "I am glad to leave this place, at last." Near the end of the game, if you take the Dark Side path and kill all the Jedi Masters then go to Dantooine, Kreia will ask you a simple question that you cannot avoid. "I must know if killing them, if revenge brought you any measure of satisfaction." "If seeing them dead has settled the disquiet within you." "Because it matters to me in a way that never mattered to the Jedi, to the Council." "I did not wish to see the Jedi dead. Defeated per
haps." "I merely wished them to see that they and their teachings were wrong. That one could not truly understand the Force simply by adhering to the Jedi Code." "All I have ever trained have been failures to them. Students who went to fight the Mandalorians, who fell to the Dark Side, who abandoned their training" "Let us return to my question: "If by killing these Jedi, if you achieved measure of peace?" Whichever option you select, the answer is essentially the same: ''no I have not obtained
peace, there are still more people to fight, to kill''. "It was as I thought. You have failed me, completely and utterly. "I have taught you to hear the Force again, show you the contrast. And yet *STILL* you do not understand." "This is what you have brought: countless murderers, slayers and assassins, born of war that has, as always, taught the wrong lesson." "You showed them life without the Force. And instead of showing them truth, power, all you showed them was how the galaxy may die." "
Even now, events spiral towards destruction and there is nothing that can be done because you refuse to listen, to understand." "Yet it is all for nothing. To have the Jedi Masters brought low by such a failure. There is no victory in that." "You have not heard I have taught. And for all I have said, you have never learned to listen." So, now that we have a complete understanding of the failings of the Jedi and Sith, Kreia's philosophy becomes much more poignant now that we can understand
what she tried to teach the Exile and by extension the player. The core value of Kreia's philosophy are rather simple as she advocates many of the Sith teachings. "All that talk about manipulation and hatred and standing on your own two feet? Sorry, you don't get more Sith than that." "Still, if we were all judged by who we were in the past, I don't think you would understand who we are now." However, it would be foolish to simply classify her as a Sith considering she doesn't identify as
either a Jedi nor Sith. "Does it matter? Of course it does. Such titles allow you to break the galaxy into light and dark, categorize it." "Perhaps I am neither and I hold both as what they are: pieces of a whole." The only way to comprehend what she stood for is to examine her interactions and observations throughout the game. At the beginning of the story, on Peragus, Kreia only wishes to escape the clutches of Sion and to protect the Exile. "I came to warn you Jedi. You know not what path
you walk." She doesn't say anything of substance regarding her philosophy as survival is the only thing that matters at this point. After escaping, Kreia offers herself to be a teacher to the Exile. "Our link may have had other consequences. Perhaps you can hear the Force again, distantly, through me. If so then there is hope." "I may be able to teach you to feel the Force again." "The threat we face is grave. If you cannot defend yourself, then we have already lost." "I offer to train you
to become strong again, to know the ways of the Force, and to hear the Force sing with you as it once did." "Whenever I travel with you, I shall impart what I can to you, through my words and presence." Upon landing on Telos, you're placed under house arrest for blowing up a solar system and are given two possible paths to take. You can help the weak Ithorians that promise to help you in very vague terms, or you can work with the galaxy's spawning conglomerate (Czerka) that will reward you
with wealth. Let's side with the Ithorians as it is the faction that is considered to be the Light Side path. The Ithorians are weak with grand plans to heal the planet from a past Sith attack by restoring and reviving the ecosystem. But... they lack strength to impose their will. As such, they beg you to help them over the Czerka corporation. However, Kreia doesn't approve of the relationship. "I do not approve of this alliance we have formed with Choto Habat and his Ithorians." "Habat has a
n agenda and he hopes to tie you into it to use you for his own ends." "Its speech is filled with maybes and perhaps, while the world under its care burns and dies." "You should heed my advice. It would be best if you avoided such needless entanglements." You do all their quest without any reward for your work and then you obtain your ship. But then, just as you're about to fly away to the Northern area, you get a message from their herd that they're being attacked by Czerka mercenaries. Becaus
e they're weak, they're completely reliant on you to survive. And this is weakness. You have no obligations to save them. You can just ignore them and fly away... There is an equal lesson if you decide to work with Czerka instead of the Ithorians. You conduct illegal dealings, lie and steal from the Ithorians, do jobs for the galactic mafia The Exchange, all for monetary compensation. Unlike the Ithorians, Kreia doesn't disapprove because you are being compensated for your strength. However,
it should be noted that money is a tool for exchanging good and services, so relying on it as a source of power is weakness. Czerka relies on its wealth to enforce their might on Talos by hiring mercenary. This is weakness because it can only buy influence from those who have strength rather than rely on their own. When the mercenaries decide to storm the offices of Czerka for more money, the head of the company is powerless to stop them. "Be reasonable Lorso. You really aren't in a posit
ion to have such a negative view to our demands. We're not asking for much." "Do you feel in charge?" "I gave you a small fortune." "And this gives you power over me?" UUUU "You have wonderful timing." "I had my reservations about some of these mercenaries but I had hoped that CSD would be able to keep them in line. It appears that I was wrong." These two paths echo the lesson of strength that Kreia advocates from the Sith: do not rely on others as the source of your power build your own stre
ngth. Another planet of importance--Nar Shaddaa--is a great microcosm of Kreia's philosophy because it is a lawless planet where only the strong can strive. Everyone is squabbling for any amount of power; mercenaries and bounty hunters roam around, and a weak fear the strong. You have to find a hidden Jedi Master on a planet of billions and the plot will only progress if you do enough quests by causing a lot of trouble. But before you can start, there is an unavoidable event of great interest
at the beginning of the map that has become an iconic moment in the game. "I saw what you did to those Exchange thugs, kind stranger. Can you spare a few credits? Help a refugee in need? "Forgive me, stranger, but if you have some credits you could spare, it would be a great help. Please?" The first option is to give it to charity, while the second option is to indulge in your psychotic urges to scare the homeless man away. Whichever option you select, Kreia will scorn you. if you choose t
he Light Side option she will complain that being altruistic without thinking is bad. "Thank you stranger, I won't forget your kindness." "Why did you do such a thing? Such kindness will mean nothing; his path is set." "Giving him what he has not earned is like pouring sand into his hands." "What if by surviving another day he brings another darkness upon another." "The slightest push, the smallest touch sends echoes throughout life." "Even an act of kindness may have more severe repercussions
than you know or can see." "By giving what he has not earned, perhaps all you have helped him become is a target." "Seeing another elevated often brings the eyes of others who suffer." "And perhaps, in the end, all you have brought is more pain." "And that is my lesson to you: be careful of kindness and charity, lest you do more harm with an open hand than with a clenched fist." Kreia is not advocating against charity, she simply wants you to understand how inconsequential aid can affect oth
ers, even if you try to do good. The Dark Side option also has its criticism from Kreia. "Forgive me, stranger, please, I beg you, do not kill me." "Why did you do such a thing? Giving into your feelings over such a small matter. They would be better served elsewhere." "The smallest push, the smallest touch, sends echoes throughout life." "These acts of cruelty may have more severe repercussions than you know or can see." "Cruelty leads to suffering. And when one suffers, it is the way of
life to spread suffering." "The suffering within builds, until its sound is all one hears." "And when a kindness is offered, it is punished. And a greater darkness is served." "From one act can come tremendous power when the echo has travelled as far as it can." "Send a great echo and power will come to you. The day shall come when you can test your strength, I promise you.." Again, Kreia is not saying that you shouldn't indulge in your passions but that you should only do so when it is wort
hwhile and useful. "Mind what I have said. Use your power, but in its proper place." After that encounter you have the rest of Nar Shaddaa as your playground to stir up trouble. Upon entering a marketplace, the Exile begins to feel the current of life of all the people living on Nar Shaddaa. "Your thoughts are disturbed. I can feel them like a shiver running through you." "It is Narshadaa, the true Narshadaa that you feel around you. It is this moon with the metal and machine stripped away and
the currents of the Force laid bare." "What you feel is the echo of the minds of these creatures within the Force. Their anger, their greed, their desperation; it is life." "It is but the vibration of minds driven by life's struggles. The struggle to feed, to take, to mate, to fight; it is the way of things." There's an interesting dialogue option on whether it is possible to move (manipulate) the masses. And Kreia offers an interesting answer. "One might as well move the universe, but such mani
pulation is possible, yes." "It requires that one feel the critical point within the structured mass and strike it in such a way that the echoes travel to your intended destination." "The ability to fool the minds of others, masses, to dominate them on a massive scale that you speak of is not achieved through raw power." "Manipulation is done through propelling events, or selected ones, into motion. It is done through teaching, through example and through conviction." "And the greatest of vi
ctories are not manipulations at all but simply awakening others, to the truth that you believe, to hearing it echoed around you in life." "But let us be silent. Words and thoughts are distractions. Feel this moment, for as long as it will last. Feel life as it is, with the crude matter stripped away." Manipulation is arguably one of the most undefined aspects of Kreia's philosophy as it is something that cannot be taught only learn instinctively, then understood rationally. Let's focus on the
refugee center as it holds an important lesson on manipulation. On Narshadaa, there's a large bounty placed on the Jedi. The intergalactic crime syndicate, The Exchange, have clamped down hard under refugees in an attempt to break their will. Initially, there doesn't seem to be any reason for such a horrible treatment. But, it's later revealed that The Exchange is doing this to draw out the Jedi into helping the refugees. Obviously, if you start helping the refugees like a goody-two-shoes,
Kreia will start to scorn you. "I'm feeling a little better. Thank you." "And what is it you think you have accomplished?" "If you seek to aid everyone in the galaxy, you will only weaken yourself and weaken them." "It is the internal struggles when fought and won on their own that yield the strongest rewards; you stole that struggle from them, cheapened it." "The currents of the galaxy, of nations, of peoples, may all stem from such small kindnesses." "Every small fracture that you creates
weakens the whole." "If you care for others, then dispense with pity and sacrifice, and recognize the value of letting them fight their own battles." "And when they triumph, they will be even stronger for the victory." There is an interesting side quest that reinforces this lesson. In the refugee landing pad, you'll find Lootra that is searching for his lost love. "For a minute, I thought that you were someone else." "My wife, Aida, there's a chance that she may be here on Narshadaa." "A lot o
f refugees ended up here after the Jedi Civil War. I came to see if I could track her down." "The thing is that I can't get into the refugee sector." "The Exchange has the place barricaded with thugs. They're putting the squeeze on the whole sector, trying to crush the spirit out of the remaining refugees." "Now I'm almost cleaned out. I burned the last of my fuel and my freight just getting here. I've been here for weeks hoping to see her face." Upon finding his lover and reuniting them, K
reia is dismissive of having helped them. "Aida, I didn't think I would ever find you. I can't believe you're here before me." "The destruction of Telos? I can't even tell you what happened after, being shuttled one system to system, one planet ahead of the Sith fleet." "Shh. We can talk about it later. You have my thanks, stranger. I can only hope that you have as much luck in what you're looking for." "It would have been better had he found her on his own. By aiding him you have only weak
ened him. He was at a moment of crisis, a moment of indecision." "It is the internal struggles when fought and won on their own that yield the strongest rewards; you stole that struggle from them, cheapened it." "If he truly loved her, truly, he would have entered the refugee sector on his own. Damn the Exchange, damn everything in his path, and taken her." "You have made their union easier, not better." "If you care for them, then dispense with pity and sacrifice and recognize the value of
letting them fight their own battles." "And when they triumph, they will be stronger for the victory." What Kreia wishes to teach is not that you shouldn't help others, but if people are unable to help themselves, you can manipulate them by using them to create echoes that benefit you. "It is from such small things, from such critical points, that the universe and its masses may be moved." "That is why you must indulge them, and indulge yourself." "It is not aiding them that matters but usin
g them as forges for which you temper yourself." "Use their dependency, feed upon it, until you have exhausted them, then leave them." So... returning to the refugees, despite their miserable conditions, they still cling to hope. "Hello traveler. My name is Hussef. I try to look out after the other refugees." "You've got the Serrico refugees on the west-ward side. They're veterans of the Serrico campaign and don't take kind to strangers." "And on the inner-side, you have the Overseer and t
he Exchange. They've been pushing us really hard lately." "Occassionally their thugs kidnap people and sell them into slavery with the Hutts." "They've also hemmed us in. We used to live all throughout this area but they've crammed us all in here now." "They're trying to break out spirit so we'll be slave workers for the Hutts!" "This may be an opportunity for us." If we make life miserable enough for the refugees, they will capitulate. The Exchange will be a valuable ally to us." "I won't su
ccumb to the Exchange! We have children here, with bright futures. We can't give up! Walking around the Refugee area, you'll find a sick man in a corner suffering from what he assumes is to be the plague. "Keep back, I am ill. Contagious the others say." Unlike the typical knee-jerk Jedi response to heal without thought, you can convince him to kill himself using guilt. "I suppose I will die anyways. Arghhh." Elsewhere, in the refugee area, a mother is weeping, begging you to return her daug
hter that had been kidnapped. "Are you one of Saquashes' men? Did you take my daughter?" "Don't you work with Saquashes?" "He took my daughter Adana to sell to the Hutts, all because I told him I could not pay his tribute. I owe 600 Credits." Now... you *could* pay her debts but if you seek out to help out everyone you'll be penniless almost immediately. So... you can persuade her to sell herself into slavery, that way at least she'll be with her daughter. "Yes, I suppose that is one way we
can stay together." "Oh, this is terrible. This is so terrible. But I must be with Adanna." After convincing these two, the refugee leader will become depressed and will cave into the demands of The Exchange. "How can you give Nadda to the Exchange like that?" "Oh, these are terrible times for us. Look how grim our situation is. Another refugee, old Garriel, died." "There's no hope left for us. I will speak with the Overseer." Achieving this will result a hand of applause by Kreia. "Well exec
uted, you have created an echo, something that will travel for some time. You are learning much." Forcing the refugees to capitulate will almost immediately grab the attention of The Exchange, as well as the Jedi Master you're seeking. By examining how all the threads affect each other, you have become closer to your goal without having to do much. *That* is the lesson of manipulation. Now, this might bring up some obvious moral questions but Kreia would simply tell you to ignore them. "You
weaken yourself by pretending that morality is important to you. You must learn to recognize your true self" If you are significantly down the path to the Dark Side and find the Jedi Master on Nar Shaddaa, the Wookie Hanharr will be added to the party. "Awaken, beast." (Angry, confused roars in Wookie) "I have saved your life, beast, that makes it mine." "Kneel." (Question in Wookie) "Because there is something to be learned, beast, even within your empty shell. And it will be needed in the
times ahead." "The beast is a lesson in strength. Learn that lesson and you will understand." "He is life at its more primitive. And he is what happens when civilization comes to primates." "The beast's strength is prodigious and you can learn much from it." "Speak to him, discern his nature. Perhaps then it will become clear." When speaking to Hanharr, he explains to you the customs of the Wookiees, regarding Life Debts. In a way, Life Debts are a form of slavery, but of the mind that binds
a person into servitude. In his madness, Hanharr killed his tribe to save them from becoming slaves to others. It's the reason why he wears shackles around his wrists. If you ask him why he doesn't simply abandon his codes, he answers that he cannot. He would no longer be a part of his tribe. He would have to create his own codes, his own values based on nothing. And that is something he cannot do. As the Exile remarks, to face such oblivion to stand firm in your own conviction and belief, fre
e of ready-made codes--- *that* is a lesson of strength. If you become a slave to codes or an ideology, then your entire being is dictated by categorical imperatives, abstract notions of your mind; it means to live by pure ideology to the point where you no longer have selfish values or desires, as though you're no longer alive! This is represented beautifully with Zaalbar near the end of the first Knights of the old Republic game, where he has to choose whether to uphold his Life Debt or
to side with his best friend. "I saw what the Sith did to Taris. Anyone who serves the dark side is evil. Big Z and I are with Carth on this one." "Mission, I am bound by the oath of my life debt." "Zaalbar, it's not betrayal if you break your life debt now." "If I go back on my vow, I am betraying my people, my ancestors. I cannot do that." "No, Zalbaar, I don't care. I won't help the Sith against the Republic. Not for anything! Not even for you! "I'm not going to stand aside and do nothing.
You'll.. you'll just have to kill me. Not if I don't attack you first." "I have no choice. The life debt is greater than any single life. It is a solemn vow of all my people. I cannot break it, not even for you. Forgive me, Mission." "Zaalbar, what are you saying? It's me, Big Z, Mission!" "Mission, forgive me!" Please, Zaalbar, don't do this, please. No!!! HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Upon returning to Kreia, you tell her your discovery: Hanharr is strong yet he is powerless; raw strength is nothin
g compared to the will of mind. "Ah, you are a perceptive one indeed. In this instance you are correct." "All that strength, that anger, it is restained by his belief, his doubt." "Everyone is made up of events in their past and it forms walls around one's spirit or breaks such walls down." "The mind gives strength or makes some powerless." "He walks but he is dead. It is because he is not ready to give up his ties yet. It is much like Jedi who will not give up their code." "It is to surrend
er yourself. To make a slave to a teaching or belief that makes it so that belief will always rule you." The lesson is about volition, the power to use your will which is equally as important as obtaining power. Never live for the sake of another or an ideology, live for yourself. And if you do believe in an ideology, then find its opposite so that you may reinforce it by correcting its flaws. Become what strengthens an ideology, not a slave to it by following it dogmatically. "To believe i
n a idea is to be willing to betray it. It is something no Jedi or Sith has ever truly learned." "That is the lesson of strength." After Kreia explains this lesson, she introduces a final test to the player directly to see if they've understood her philosophy. "Yet that is not the only lesson that the beast can teach us." "Not only does one's will control one's strength but one's will can draw upon the strength of others." "Surely you have felt the beast's presence onboard this ship, stal
king, restless; it is a more primal connection you feel." "And the hunger you feel does not stem from Hanharr. It is something you may draw upon, his very life if need be." "He does not realize how deep his life debt runs, but he will." "When you suffer, call upon that hunger and the beast shall be that upon that your will may draw strength." "Reach our, feel his presence within the ship, clawing at you, pacing." "Feel the rumbling of the haul, the metal around you like a cage, the building a
nger, the blood that rises behind the eyes, a bloodlust that cannot be sated. "If you accept it, you find your strength increase and your vitality increasing faster with every breath." Accepting this power will give a permanent +2 to your strength. "Good. You know it now. The Predator-Prey relationship, the strong feeding on the weak. It will serve you. More power is always good... right? If you've understood anything about Kreia's philosophy, then the answer should be obvious. (refusing p
ower) But it is a choice that few people have ever made while playing this game. Most accept this gift, blindly, without understanding the 'true' lesson of strength. Kreia will ask why you would reject such an offer. "Are you sure? It will grant you strength, vitality for the times ahead." "Forsake it, deny it and you will deny power." The answer given forshadows a decision made on Malachor V and why the Exile is so important to the Star Wars canon. "Ahhh. And that is the choice of Malachor
V, at last. " "You have made a strange choice, a unique choice. Very well, I accept it." "And know that that is the true lesson of strength. To turn away from strength that is not your own." And if you're curious whether this was a test, the Exile wonders the exact same thing. "I'm always testing you, never forget that. Always be on your guard otherwise you might learn something." The rest of the planets--Korriban, Dxun, Onderon--- they do not have any interesting moments involving Kreia tha
t reflect her philosophy. As such, they can be ignored and we can move on to the final parts of the story that have a greater focus on what she stood for and her motivations. After confronting and defeating Atris, you can ask her what she thinks is Kreia's motivation. "She seeks the death of all Jedi and all Sith, and the death of the Force. It is madness, it is impossible." While it is true that Kreia seek the destruction of the Jedi, the Sith, and the Force, it is simply a means to an en
d to her actual goal. At the end of the game, on Malachor V, Kreia explains how she used the Exile to accomplish her goals. "From the moment you awoke, I have used you." "I used you to gather the Jedi so that they could be destroyed." "I used you so that you could reveal Atris' corruption so that her teachings could end before they began." "I used you to keep the Lords of the Sith from condemning the galaxy to death with their power unchecked. If you go down the path to the Dark Side and kill
all the Jedi Masters, Kreia explains that they needed to be killed but does that provide an answer of why. "The destruction of the Masters, the Order, it was not an end in itself." "I did not expect them to still live. Their presence was knowledge I did not possess." "But now this has been corrected. And now the sides of this conflict are as I thought them to be. There are no more unknowns." Regardless, it had to be done. To have such power Jedi still live, still be felt in the Force, even
on such worlds that they had chosen, was a threat that had to be ended. The true reason Kreia sought the destruction of the Jedi Order was to correct the mistakes of the past so that they wouldn't happen again in the future. After the destruction of these new Sith, if many of the Jedi Masters still lived, the Jedi Order would be rebuilt without any change. The true failing of the Jedi is that they are blind, reject any deserve but unwilling to change or grow. Jolee Bindo even references this p
oint about how the Jedi are fallible. "You know what I hate? Well, lots of things really. But I'm old and easily annoyed. But that's besides the point." "What I really hate are how most people view the Jedi." "Everyone think that the Jedi are perfect, that they can do no wrong." "They think the Jedi Council is completely incapable of injustice." "And I'm not even talking about how some of us fall to the Dark Side." "No, that's plenty indication of our fallibility, but it's something else entir
ely." "No, I'm talking about how, more often than not, your average robe-wearing Jedi can try to do the right thing and still be completely wrong." "I guess I'm not being clear, am I?" "Come to think of it, I don't have to be clear. Someone my age is entitled to ramble, dammit! But for your sake, I'll try to explain." "I'll tell you about a little tale about a Jedi Master I once knew. Hortath, I think. Or was it Hortoth? "Oh, oh yes, Master Hortath. He was a kindly old Jedi who meant well, b
ut was the most near-sighted thing in the Core, I swear." "He would walk into walls, knock over tables, mistake apprentices for rancor beasts. That sort of thing." "And he was too proud to submit to proper treatment." "Some used to counsel him and urged to ''Use the Force, Master Hortath. Allow the Force to see for you."" "But he refused to believe his eyes were failing." "He simply squinted more and more as the years went on, the other Jedi resignedly passing it off as the amusing quirk of a
compassionate old man." "So one day a young Padawan meets Master Hortath in the courtyard and, not knowing of his blindness, asks him for directions to the Council." "Quite sure of himself, Hortath gave the lad directors, which happened to lead back outside and away from the enclave." "The Padawan is confused, naturally. He asks if Master Hortath is sure, and, of course, Master Hortath says that he is." "The Padawan suggests that perhaps he should ask someone else, but the proud Hortath now f
eels insulted." "He tells the Padawan to take the route prescribed and no other." "Rather dejectedly, the Padawan did as he was old, and so ended up leaving the Jedi Order forever." "It was decided that the boy's fate was to leave the Order anyway." "Though whether that was out of respect for Hortath, or because the boy went on to something else, well, we'll never know." "The tale is about blindness, and I thought the point was clear. At any rate, you should think about it." If you take a Lig
ht Side path and bring the Jedi Masters to Dantooine, they reveal the reason why they exiled the Exile. "When you returned to us, we saw what had happened. You carry all those deaths on Malachor within you." "And it has left a hole, a hunger that cannot be filled." "In you, we saw a wound in the Force." "In you, we saw the end of the Force." "You a cypher, forming bonds, leeching the life of others. Ciphering their will and dominating them." "In you we see something worse than merely the t
eachings of the Sith, what you carry may mean the death of the Force, and the death of the Jedi." "And that is why you are a threat to us all." "What if other Jedi went to war, as you did, suffered the same events and emerged, as you did?" "What if there was a crucible that trained such Jedi to consume and kill?" "For you, Malachor was that crucible." "And so you have brought the end of the Jedi, and perhaps the knowledge of the Force." "But it is of no consequence." Rather than seeking to u
nderstand the reasons why the Exile became that way and to correct their ways, they chose to remain blind and to ignore the issue entirely. "You are a threat to all living creatures and all who feel the Force." "And that we cannot allow." "Our judgement before remains. Exile, you must leave, and you must leave without your tie to the Force." "It is a punished reserved for only a few and only when necessary but we have the power to cut you off from the Force, and it must be done." "Forgive us,
but it is necessary." "Enough!" "What?" "Step away!" "He has brought truth and you condemn it? The arrogance!" However, it is only by understanding why Kreia desires to destroy Atris and Sith, that the destruction of the Jedi is given greater context to her overall goal. As mentioned previously, Atris mirrors of stage of Kreia's past life when she was known as Arren Kae, and began to learn more about the Sith to strengthen the Jedi Order. "I am Atris, Jedi Master. The last historian of the Jed
i. The last of the Jedi." "Those are titles, words you cling to as the darkness falls around you." "You are that which attacked the Jedi, you are Sith." "Sith is a title, yes, but like you, the title is not who I am. It is not what I believe." "For you, it is different. You have bathed in the knowledge of the Sith." "But there is not enough truths in such teachings. But it will be a step for you." "You have gathered Sith holocrons, Sith teachings from across the galaxy. It is why you have chose
n servants who cannot feel the Force." "And more importantly, they cannot feel what you have become." "I have sought to preserve the Jedi Order, and I have gathered all that I know of the Sith to this place so that I might find them and stop them." "How did it happen?" "Search your heart, it was never battle that called to you, never battle that caused you to fall." "Malachor V has touched many things and it echoes still." "It is such a quiet thing, to fall, but far more terrible is to admit
it." Disgusted about how the Jedi did not live up to her ideals, Atris desired to train better Jedi after the Sith were destroyed. "Who are these Jedi that survived the Jedi Civil War?" "They're not the Jedi I know, the ones I once worshiped." "They are cowards, doubters, and afraid." "What manner of Jedi hide from a threat, who turn on their own, and imprison them on dead worlds?" "When the Sith are destroyed, then I shall rebuild the Jedi Order again." "They shall have none of the weaknes
ses of before. They shall be strong, willing to take battle to any who oppose them and weaken the Republic." "They shall not train those who are easily corrupted. No more students that will bring war and hate to the galaxy." However, if Atris were allowed to rebuild the Jedi Order, she would have corrupted Jedi into Sith. The Exile even has a dialogue option pointing out this observation. "The Sith are the Jedi, the Jedi are the Sith." "The Sith and the Jedi are similar in almost every way
. Including their quest for greater power." (Revan would have been the type of Jedi Atris would have created) And while Revan is considered to be one of the greatest Force users in the Star Wars Canon, (Revan would have been the type of Jedi Atris would have created) this was not enough for Kreia because she saw something more. When the Exile enters the tomb on Korriban, visions appear of the Exile's past and what could have been. At the end of the tomb, an alternate version of the Exile can
be seen alongside Revan that accepted power on Malachor V rather than cut all ties to the Force. After the Exile defeats the evil version of itself, Revan unleashes his double lightsaber, ready for combat. What is important to note is the color of the lightsaber. Blue is typically the color of the Jedi. While Red is the color of the Sith. However, there is a single exception that happen by ''pure chance'' while Lucas was explaining this concept to Samuel L. Jackson. "I'm trying to figure out w
ho to talk about your lightsaber color. Oh. Well. Good guys are blue and greed. Bad guys are red. That's just the way it works. There's no purple lightsaber? You might get purple. A combination of Blue and Red creates the synthesis of Purple. The casting of Mace Windu equally reflects the lightsaber color. Samuel L. Jackson typically plays aggressive and overly angry characters. And in the prequel movies, he's also playing that same role but forced to be passive. On Wookiepedia, the Expanded Uni
verse lore describes Mace Windu as being able to fight aggressively without falling to the Dark Side. His fighting style highlights his inner-darkness that lets him walk the line between the Light and the Dark while still being in control. But going back to Revan, one of his lightsaber is Purple, showing a synthesis of the Jedi and Sith. However, on his other hand, he holds a Red lightsaber, showing that Revan is firmly among the Sith. The true failing of Atris is out rather than improv
e the Jedi, she would have corrupted them into Sith, in an effort to preserve the techniques and teachings of how to command the Force. The destruction of the Sith, however, is much more straightforward and obvious. The Sith indulge in their passion, destroying their humanity to obtain more power and become agents of evil that bring ruin to the galaxy. The further you use the Force as a tool, corrupting it for your own selfish goals, the more it eats you up on the inside. This can be seen w
ith the yellow eyes of the Sith, the windows to the soul. "The Sith rely on their passion for their strength. They think inwards, only about themselves." The true failing of the Sith is that they strongly rely on the Force at the source of their strength, rather than themselves. This weakness is exemplified with Nihilus and Sion that saw Kreia's teachings as weakness and betrayed her. "I sense you my Master. Faint. Weak." "Your senses betray you, as you betrayed me." "After all that happened
, still you live. You are difficult to kill." "For one as limited as you, perhaps. To have fallen to far yet learned nothing. That is your failing." "The failure is yours. No longer do your whisper crawl within my skull. No longer do I suffer beneath teachings that weaken us." Sion and Nihilus both cannot live without the Force or they would die. Nihilus has amassed so much Force that he hungers for more and would have ended up eating the entire galaxy. "He, if he can be called a man any l
onger, is one of the Dark Lords that pursues you." "He is one who learned one of the greatest of the Sith teachings, and it enslaved him." "He is a breach in the Force, capable of consuming the lives around him." "One cannot have power on that magnitude and still perceives the universe as we do, as most of us do." "And it devours him as he devours others. His mere presence kills all around him, slowly feeding him." "He is already dead. It is merely a question on how many die before he fal
ls." "Do not think of him as one would a weapon, or one of your warship of the Republic. "It is terrible, but it is still a subtle thing." "And that is why they and their techniques must be wiped out." "No one must again learn what her master did." "Instead of sending connections in the Force, instead such connections are drawn upon, fed upon, and drained completely." "Then you understand how terrible such a power is, and why it must be ended." "It is an empty road to the Dark Side, and by tra
velling it, the price is death before one's time." "It is not something he can direct, or focus. Much like hunger itself, he is more of a hole in the Force than a living thing." "There is no strength in the hunger he possesses. And the will behind his power is a primal thing." "And it rules him, not the other way around. It has its own will, its own instincts." "And he cares nothing for the Sith, or its teachings, or the Jedi." "And when the Jedi are dead, her master will feed on the galax
y, the Republic and eventually consume the Sith as well. "There is no future is the empty galaxy he sees." "And that is why he must be stopped: the breach must be sealed before his po1wer grows beyond even what we can hope to stop." And Sion seeks to destroy the Jedi as his only purpose in life. But... needs to Force to remain alive. He is *literally* telekinetically holding himself together by force of will using the Force. "Of pain, he has learned much." "Of knowledge, of teaching, he knows
nothing." "Like the others, he was spawned from the horrors of the Mandalorian Wars." "He exists solely to spread his pain to all Jedi everywhere." While Nihilus and Sion represent the best aspects of the Sith --power and will to power-- they also represent the greatest weakness of the Sith: the loss of will by desiring power and the impotence of creating anything beyond destroying the Jedi. This is all because they rely on the Force as a source of their strength, rather than in themselves.
"Explain something to me." "Well, Jedi are suppose to be tough, capable." "Yes, and what are they without the Force?" "Take the greatest Jedi Knight, strip away the Force and what remains?" "They rely on it, depend on it, more than they know." "Watch as they try to hold a blaster as they would a lightsaber, and you will see nothing more than a woman, or a man; a child." "I guess I never realized how much they relied on it." "Do not be surprised. In many ways even you are more capable than a Je
di." "You could survive where they could not, simply because you do not hear the Force as they do. It is irony of sort." A good analogy is to compare the Force with a blade, a tool that can further your strength and obtain victories if you use it correctly. The difference, of course, is that anything is possible with the Force. "Nothing is impossible with the Force." "It is an energy that flows through all living things. And like energy, it may harnessed, channeled and consumed." "At times,
it may even be a substance that can burn and ignite." With that blade, you might never face any hardships and can be considered to be powerful. However, relying on the blade is weakness that can be exploited. Your entire livelihood is dependent on the well-being of the sword. If it broke or if some thief stole the blade, you would become worthless overnight. "There is no life without the Force. The Force is a blade. Without it, one is defenseless." The dependency the Jedi and the Sith have
with the Force is the true source of motivation for Kreia. The problem lies directly in the axioms of their codes. While the first lines of both codes are axiom dichotomies of selflessness for the Jedi and selfishness for the Sith, it is actually the last line of their codes that provide their overall failing concerning their dependency on the Force. The Jedi line, ''there is no death there is the Force,'' taken as literal, means that your life does not exist. You do not live, you do not di
e. You are simply an extension of the Force. This is why the Jedi preach self-sacrifice and a dismissal of one's life which leads to the path of self-destruction. "Oh, not to love is no crime, or so the Jedi believe." "It is their code that kills life, their adherence to the will of Force." The Sith equally becomes slaves because of the last line of their code. ''The Force shall free me'' declares that only the Force can free you from chains that prevent you to do anything rather than your ow
n strength and will to power. By having the Force as your only standard by which you may obtain power, the Sith code proclaims that only by sacrificing your humanity and indulging in your psychotic urges can you obtain freedom, which only further makes you slave to the Force. "At time, I wonder what we would be if the Force was taken from us. If we would truly be Jedi or Sith, or simply human." While questioning Kreia about the origins of the Sith, she gives an overview history of the split
between the Jedi and the Sith. "The Jedi Civil War is not the first one of its kind." "Thousands of year ago, there was another civil war that split the Order. It was a terrible thing." "A faction among the Jedi abandoned the teachings of the Order, following their own path." "They waged war on their fellow Jedi, a war that raged across the galaxy." "But these fallen were cast out, defeated. And they retreated to worlds in the Outer Rim." "Over time, they took on the mantle of Lord of the
Sith, but in their hearts they never forgot the Jedi." "The hatred of the Jedi burns in their veins like fire and echoes in their teachings." "Once there were only Jedi. I wonder what evil was in such days." "And to think there were once no Jedi at all. Perhaps the Force defies such rigid classifications of its followers." In our world, according to Nietzsche, all higher civilization arose from those that imposed their will, desired power and preyed on the weak. This is what is known as Ma
ster Morality. Then, those who were oppressed by those with power, created their own system of morality in opposition to power and saw themselves as superior by not desiring power. This is what is known as Slave Morality. In dialectic terms, Master Morality can be considered the original thesis on morality. And Slave Morality was formed as a reaction forming an antithesis. What is unique to the Star Wars universe is that Slave Morality was the original thesis with the Jedi, And Master Morali
ty, with the Sith, was formed, as a reaction, becoming the antithesis. Schiller dialectic can be understood as a thesis given rise to reaction, and an antithesis, that contradicts or negates the thesis until the tension between the two is resolved, creating a synthesis. However a synthesis is not simply the 'middle road'. It is supposed to overcome the two opposed thesis. The problem is that a synthesis has never occurred between the Jedi and the Sith and is the cause of nearly all the wars
in Star Wars. "It is simply important to me that the infighting amongst these Jedi religious branches be resolved so that the galaxy may be put back together." "I do not care which one triumphs, I only want the universe to settle down for a while, catch its breath." "All these constant crises are getting somewhat repetitive." This is echoed by Jolee Bindo when he has a talk with Carth. "So Jolee, you decided to come out of your little hermitage in the forest and come help us stop the Sith. "
I guess you realized this was worth coming out of retirement for, huh?" "Yeah, that's right, sonny. The Sith are the greatest evil to hit the galaxy since, well, the Mandalorians." And they're the worst thing since Exar Kun. Bla ba bla, etectra, etectra, extectra. "Okay, old man, you lost me there. Are you trying to make a point?" "Look, everybody always figures the time they live in is the most epic, most important age to end all ages." "But tyrant and heroes rise and fall, and historians sort
out the pieces." "Malak is a tyrant who should be stopped. If he conquers the galaxy, we're in for a couple of rough centuries." "Eventually it'll come around again, but I'd rather not wait that long." "So we do what we have to do, and we try to stop the Sith." "But don't start thinking this war - your war - is more important than any other war just because you're in it." "That's an interesting theory, but I don't buy it." "The Republic stands for something; it stood for something for fif
teen thousand years. And if it falls, everything will change forever." "You believe whatever you need to to get you through this, sonny." "The bottom line is we both want to stop Malak, so let's not get hung up on the details." This discussion references a MUCH larger problem than Jolee even realizes and is at the core of Star Wars and why Kreia hates the Force. At the end of the game, on Malachor V, you can ask her: ''why did you do all this?'' And she gives a very interesting answer. "It i
s said that the Force has a will. It has a destiny for us all." "I wield it but it uses us all and that is abhorent to me." "Because I hate the Force. I hate that it seems to have a will, that it would control us to achieve some measure of balance when countless lives are lost." The important part is the end portion that the Force creates endless series of balances which results in countless deaths in the galaxy. It is as though everyone is being manipulated under some grand plan in a way th
at seems deterministic. Let's take for example the setup of the original Star Wars movie with all the context of the sequels and prequels movies. Leia is giving the Death Star plans to R2D2, a droid that served under her father for decades, and is accompanied by C3P0, a droid that is also built by her father. Both droids end up in the hands of her brother that is living on her father's birth planet. "Wow. What are the chances of that happening? "Remember we're talking about the Force here."
"At this point, Malak himself could drop out of the sky and I wouldn't bat an eyelash." "Good point." "I call it luck." "In my experience there's no such thing as luck." "But in one trained in the Force, you know that true coincidences are rare." This manipulation to create balances has a greater impact to the Star Wars universe than people even realize. "With all due respect master, is he not the Chosen One?" "Is he not to destroy the Sith and bring balance to the Force?" "So the prophecy sa
ys." "A prophecy, misread, could have been." "You were the chosen one." "It was said that you would join the Sith, not join them." "Bring Balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness." And how did the Force achieve this 'balance' with Anakin? By having the entire galaxy fight in a war, controlled on both sides by the Sith, have the entire Jedi Order annihilated, then wait 20 years of Sith oppression and only when the son of the prophesize chosen one defeats him, in a duel, only THEN, as Anaki
n sees his own son being tortured, the Sith are destroyed and balance is achieved. COUNTLESS death for balance. That is what Kreia found abhorrent. And unlike what the word 'balance' suggests, this doesn't mean an equality between the Light and the Dark like some sort of scale but simply an eradication of all those that use the Dark Side of the Force, as though all Dark Side users must be removed, regardless of the cost of life. And this brings up the question of whether or not there is any fr
ee will at all in the Star Wars galaxy if everything is balanced out in the end by the Force. The Handmaiden and Kreia ponder on this question. "The Force can drive others, but there is choice, is there not?" "Ah, but at what point does the power that Force exerts submerge any attempt at choice or free will?" "If there is no choice in the Force then our teachings and our actions are for nothing. And I refuse to believe that is true." "You have taken a complicated question, servant of Atris,
and you have trivialized it with your answer and lack of experience." What is interesting is that despite all the talks of fate and destiny, the Star Wars movies put emphasis on the value of choice as a theme. "You are fulfilling your destiny, Anakin." "It is unavoidable. It is your destiny." "Luke, you can destroy the Emperor. He has forseen this." "It is your destiny." "Join me, and together, we can rule the galaxy as father and son." "It is the only way." The greater good... For example, i
n the original movie, after Han Solo got paid for rescuing the princess, he wanted to leave and not get involved in the war. "It's not over yet." "It is for me sister. I ain't in it for this revolution and I'm not in it for you, princess. I expect to be well-paid. I'm in it for the money." "You need not worry about a reward. If money is all that you love, then that's what you'll receive." "So, you got your reward and you're just leaving then?" "That's right, yeah." "I got some old debts that
I have to pay off with this stuff." "Even if I did, you don't think I'd be a fool to stick around here, do you?" "Come on, why don't you look around? You know what's about to happen, what they're up against." "They could use a good pilot like you. You're turning your back on them." "What good's a reward if you ain't around to use it?" "Besides, attacking that battle station isn't my idea of courage. More like suicide." "Alright, take care of yourself Han. I guess it's what you're best at, isn
't it?" "What's wrong?" "Oh, it's Han. I don't know. I thought he would change his mind." "He's got to follow his own path. No one can choose it for him." The opposite selfish choice can also be seen with Anakin when he has to choose between the Jedi and the Sith. "If you want to become a complete and wise leader, you must embrace a larger view of the Force." "Be careful of the Jedi, Anakin." "Only through me can you achieve a power greater than any Jedi." "Learn to to know Dark Side of the Fo
rce and you will be able save your wife from certain death." (God I love these evil smiles.) "What did you say?" "Use my knowledge, I beg you." "I'm going to turn you over to the Jedi Council." "Of course, you should, but you're not sure if their intentions, are you?" "You have great wisdom, Anakin. Know the power of the Dark Side. Power to save Padme." "You are under arrest, my Lord." "Anakin, I told you it would come to this. I was right: the Jedi are taking over." "The oppression of the
Sith will never return. You have lost." "He's a traitor!" "He is a traitor. Arrgh." "I have the power to save the one you love." YOU MUST CHOOOOOSE "Don't listen to him, Anakin." "Don't let him kill me." "Anakin, help me, help me! "I can't hold out any longer." "I'm going to end this, once and for all." "You can't. He must stand trial." "He has control of the Senate and the Courts. He's too dangerous to be left alive." "I'm too weak, oh, don't kill me, please." "It's not the Jedi way. He must
live!" (Windu consciously makes the choice to violate the Jedi Code, knowing it is wrong) "Please don't!" "I need him." "Please don't!" "NOOO" "What have I done?" "Commander Cody. The time has come. Execute Order 66." "Yes my Lord." "The Force binds all things." "The smallest push, the smallest touch sends echoes throughout life." "These acts of cruelty may have more severe repercussion than you know, or can see." "Execute Order 66." And what is even more insane is that it's not simply the wars
between the Jedi and Sith that are being repeated but similar event themselves keep repeating. "And then with Anakin, kind of duplicating the Luke Skywalker role but you see the ECHO of where it's going to go." "Instead of destroying the Death Star, he destroys the ship that controls the robots." "Again, it's like poetry, so that they rhyme." "Every stance kind of rhymes with the last one." "Hopefully it'll work." "It's like poetry so that they rhyme." "It's like poetry so that they rhyme."
"It's like poetry so that they rhyme." "It's like poetry so that they rhyme." "It's like poetry so that they rhyme." "It's like poetry so that they rhyme." Star Wars is possibly the greatest fantasy setting ever made because of this. It ensures that there will always be Villains that rise, and Heroes that will eventually defeat them. It is an Eternal Recurrence. The same events will keep happening over and over and over and over. From an audience perspective, there's nothing wrong with su
ch a setting, so long as you don't notice many key events being repeated. But... from the perspective of the people living in the Star Wars galaxy itself, this is just madness. That is what Kreia hated about the Force. After leaving the Jedi Order and forming the Sith triumvirate, Traya had grand plans to save the galaxy from the influence of the Force. But... they were never completed. The Academy on Malachor V, was left by the old Sith Empire that fed on death that could be harnessed into
power. After the activation of the Mass Shadow super weapon during the final moments of the Mandalorian Wars on Malachor V, it could be used as a weapon that builds up echoes that forcefully deafened everyone in the galaxy to the Force or kills them. "Now she seeks to create a new echo, a wound in the Force. Greater than the one before, greater than the one you caused." "The death of one can send echoes to hundreds, even thousands, across many planets." "If not checked, then it spreads until
nothing is left." "It creates places where the Force is difficult to hear, and difficult to find one's way." "It will deafen all who are touched by the Force until no life is left. And with it, the scream will kill all who feel the Force until nothing is left." The number of people that would survive this event would be very low. But the galaxy would be freed from the influence of the Force. However, before this plan could be enacted, Traya was betrayed by Nihilus and Sion that sought power.
"There are dark places in the galaxy, where few thread. Ancient centers of learning, of knowledge." "But I did not walk alone. To be united by hatred is a fragile alliance at best." "But my will was not law. There were disagreements. Ambitions. And hunger for power." "I was casted down. Stripped of my power. Exiled. And fell into darkness." From such disagreements, Kreia was born and sought a new purpose. "Know that there was once a Darth Traya, and that she casted aside that role, was ex
iled, and found a new purpose." "What do you wish to hear? That I once believed in the code of the Jedi?" "That I felt the call of the Sith? That perhaps once I held the galaxy by its throat?" "That for every good work that I did that I brought equal harm to the galaxy?" "That perhaps what the greatest of the Sith Lords knew of evil they learned from me?" "What would it matter now. There is only so much comfort in knowing such things and it is not who I am now." At last, you understand,
tiny Jedi. "You. Who are you? What are you doing on this ship?" "Enough. What did you see in the web of world that have died. What did you see when you saw it through the Force?" "I see the death of the galaxy. Of life." "At first, I thought it was just conquest but it's more terrible than that. It's an echo, spreading outwards, killing everything. It's not possible." You are a wasted pawn of the Republic, young one. You could have been so much more, with your wide-eyed innocence, your nai
ve love for others. "Now you understand the magnitude of what is being done." "I know you. Not even the markings of the Dark Side can hide it. Why have you done this?" "I? You think I seek the destruction of all living things? There is no victory in such things." "I do not want to win our war like this, little Jedi. When I win, I wish it to be because I was right. My teachings true." "Because she proclaims to no longer follow the Sith. That she is something else. Something that seeks Balan
ce through destruction." Stripped of her power and connection to the Force, only one solution remained: to destroy the Jedi and Sith and to create a synthesis of both ideologies using the Exile as the basis. "I am Kreia, and I am your rescuer, as you are mine." The foundation of Kreia's philosophy can be seen in her name. Names have a great importance in the Star Wars universe. When someone falls to the Dark Side, they lose their name and become someone new entirely. "Henceforth, you shall b
e known as Darth Vader." "Your father, was seduced by the Dark Side of the Force. He ceased to be Anakin Skywalker and became Darth Vader. "I've accept the truth that you were once Anakin Skywalker, my father." "That name no longer has any meaning for me." "Kreia? Argh. That is not her name." When Kreia was a Jedi Master, she was known as Arren Kae. Then, when she became a Sith Lord, she was known as Darth Traya. The name 'Kreia' is not random. It is a collection of several parts of what she
called herself when she was among the Jedi and Sith. Her lightsaber equally reflects this union of opposite. But, understanding the creation of a synthesis between the Jedi and the Sith only achieves greater meaning with the addition of the Exile. As a character with its own past history, the Exile is rather important to the Star Wars Canon because it is a living embodiment of Kreia's philosophy. After joining the Mandalorian Wars and fighting alongside Revan as a general, the Exile used a sup
erweapon the Mass Shadow generator during the final moments of the war on Malachor V that crippled the Mandalorians. "I dreamt of Malachor. I remember the ships. The last stand of the Republic." "A tattered remnants of our fleet. The largest we could gather. But it was damaged, weakened." "The Mandalorians couldn't resist. They tore into us like beasts, shredding our ships to scraps as we fought back." "Yet this time there were no reinforcements for either side." "Revan had been delayed
by Mandalorian scout ships. By the time he arrived, it was too late." "And beyond Malachor there were no Mandalorians left to die." "I remember standing on the bridge, standing next to you watching the destruction of the Republic. Watching full of ships of soldiers and Jedi burn and die." "I remember the look you had when you looked at me. It was the longest you ever looked at me. You didn't say anything. Just a nod." "Events moved quickly, even in my dreams. Explosions, flashes, you fall
ing. I could feel the pain around me." And then the memory. The drifting husks of the Mandalorians' ships, the dead, allies friends, strangers." "And then the echo, lingering. The sound I awaken to in my nightmares." "The situation forced your hand. You realized that unless action was taken, the fleet would be destroyed, and the Republic would fall." "None of us realized the magnitude of what we unleashed. It was nothing more than a slaughter. A slaughter caused by one of my creations. "There
is a world in the Outer Rim, surrounded by Mass Shadows." Past the graveyard of mandalorian warships, this planet suffers, crushed in gravity's fist." "To walk on its surface is to feel it crush every cell of your being." "It is like being buried alive until it seems like you will never breathe again." "What manner of creature would have birthed such a thing?" "Nothing human, to be sure." But unbeknownst to all, this was a plan of conversion, orchestrated by Revan, to make all those who follo
wed him into war turn to the Dark Side and swear loyalty to him, so that he may attack the Republic years later. "Observation, I do not believe that the Mandalorians were the true target at Malachor." "I believe that the intention was to destroy the Jedi, break their will and make them loyal to Revan." "I don't know if you examined the records of the deaths on Malachor, but you cannot escape that many of the Jedi and Republic soldiers who died were not Revan's strongest supporters." "Observa
tion: I believe that Revan was cleaning house at Malachor V." "What ones did not die became Revan's allies against the Republic." Faced with the overwhelming death of allies after the activation of the Mass Shadow weapon, everyone was forced to either turn to the Dark Side or DIE. "There is a place in the galaxy where the Dark Side of the Force runs strong." "It is something of the Sith, but it was fueled by war." "It corrupts all that walks on its surface, drowns them in the power of the Dark
Side. It corrupts all life and it feeds on death." "Revan knew the power of such places and the power in making them." "They can be used to break the will of others, of Jedi, promising them power, and turning them to the Dark Side." "Did you never wonder how Revan corrupted so many of the Jedi, so much of the Republic, so quickly?" "The Mandalorian Wars were a series of massacres that masked another war. A war of conversion." Culminating in a final atrocity that no Jedi could walk away fro
m, save one." "And that is what I sought to understand." "How one can turn away from such power, give up the Force and still live." "But I see what happened now." "It is because you had no choice." "We did not cut you off from the Force. You were merely deafened to it because of that last battle of the Mandalorian Wars. "The screams of countless thousands, Jedi and Mandalorians, crushed by the planet's gravity, annihilated. "Their lives still scream on the surface of that dead planet, and wi
thin you." "To hear the Force over such pain, it is not possible. "It was too much for any Jedi to endure. "And it is a wonder why you did not die there when thousands perished all those you fought with and struggled with." "You cut yourself off because you had to if you were to survive. You had hints of it on the war on Dxun. Malachor was simply the final blow. This is what makes the Exile so unique, compared to all the Jedi and Sith. Rather than destroy its ego to be in tune with the Force,
like all Jedi, or sacrifice its humanity by indulging in psychotic urges for power, like all Sith, the Exile could use the Force as it desired, using the Force as a tool, not as a slave. "Because you are a Jedi who turned away from the Force and survived, and became stronger for it. "In you, I see the potential to see the Force die, to turn away from its will, and that is what pleases me." "You are beautiful to me, Exile." "A dead spot in the Force, an emptiness in which its will might be d
enied." "In times past, and in times future, there are Jedi who will stop listening to the Force, those who will try to forget it but maintain unconscious ties." "And those, as in the past, such as I, who have had the Force striped from them." "But no Jedi *ever* made the choice you did. To sever ties so completely, so utterly, that it leaves a wound in the Force. "And that is why I chose you." "You are not a Jedi. You are not Sith, not truly. And it is for that that I love you." "I would have
killed the galaxy to preserve you. I would have let the galaxy die." "You are more rare than you know. And what you have taught yourself must not be allowed to die." At the end of the game, there is a path that Kreia desired the Exile to choose that would have changed the face of the galaxy. Rather than destroy Malachor V, you can remain there and become a teacher, attracting the next generation of Force-Sensitive that feel the echo, and teach them how to use the Force. "You make take one o
f the ships that orbit Malachor and depart from this place, or you may remain here on Malachor V and wait for the others, those touched by the Force who will come in time. "Then you shall become a teacher as I once was." "I am proud. It is difficult to turn away from battle and adventure and to instead guide others along their path. By becoming a beacon to all Force-Sensitives that feel the echo, and for them to remain on Malachor V, Kreia's teaching would persist beyond her death and save t
he galaxy... "You must understand that the general would not wish the relics of the Sith strength on Malachor to be compromised." "Their presence is needed to stabilize the galaxy. However, despite what Kreia desired, canonly, the Exile never made this choice and destroyed Malachor V. The Jedi Council was rebuilt and nothing was learned. A true synthesis was never created, and the wars between the Jedi and the Sith continued endlessly. The original Star Wars movies were meant to be the e
nding saga of the wars between the Jedi and the Sith, as Anakin was prophesized to finally bring balance to the Force and destroy the Sith. This is why there weren't supposed to be any movies made after Return of the Jedi. Luke refused to forsake his friends by blindly following the teachings of Yoda and the Jedi Code, yet also refused to fall to the Dark Side, like his father before him. Luke was destined to reform the Jedi into something familiar but also new. (He didn't, watch my Grey Jedi v
ideo) In the Expanded Universe, this is exactly what Luke did with the New Jedi Order. (He didn't, watch my Grey Jedi video) However, now that Disney has complete ownership of the Star Wars franchise, This war... will truly... never... end. "It's time for the Jedi to end." Star Wars may be a fantasy in space, with many silly moments and wacky adventures. But it cannot be denied that it is a cultural touchstone, representing the universal zeitgeist of humanity in popular culture. Paying tribu
te to past old myths and fables and movies and fresh new ways. Using the Hero's Journey, along with *MANY* cultural archetypes, folklore, mythology, samurai movies, western cowboy stories. Merging it all to create a true monomyth that endlessly repeats for all time. And while Kreia's philosophy can be understood as an examination of everything, regarding the Star Wars universe, it also serves as a criticism of our own dialectic system of morality. Kreia is not simply an amazingly well-written
female character but a person that stood alone, among the dualistic morality that represents all of human culture, and sought the truth, to save everyone. "Take what strength you may steal from me. That is all I need be to you." I'm happy that this project is finally finished. It has been a very long one. If I ever die, then this video will serve as a record of my philosophy as well as a piece of art/analytical piece regarding Kotor 2 in the canon of video games and the cultural zeitgeist of S
tar Wars for generations to come. I only hope that you may find whatever information that may enrich your life. Thank you for watching.

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@The.Youtuber.with.no.Name.

If you still have questions about Star Wars, then I recommend you watch my video The Foundations of Star Wars that examines the nature of the Force. All answers are found there. https://youtu.be/-a7x5N2eVFE

@TheActMan

Wow. Just wow. Normally I wouldn't even consider watching a video of this length, but my love for the KOTOR games and Star Wars... and the force all told me I should watch at least a little. Goddamn was it worth it. This is quite possibly the best analysis of not just Kreia, but Star Wars as a whole. Well fucking done.

@thevoidlookspretty7079

“This whole franchise is bullsh*t.” - Kreia.

@Charles2k

I love that quote: "You have taken a complicated question, and you have trivialized it with your answer and lack of experience."

@jason-paulwells2312

Atton: "Explain something to me." Kreia: "I have neither the will nor the years desired."

@pcdeltalink036

I come back to this video every now and then and I still have the same conclusion every time: Kreia is one of the most brilliant people in the entire Star Wars universe.

@karanhdream

In the grand scheme of things, Luke's character is an ode to humanity. Neither completely selfless or selfish, not overly powerful or wise and detached. Unbound by unattainable standards and dogmatic teachings and never ruled by greed or passion. He loved, he hated, he laughed, he cried, he suffered, he forgave, he LIVED. I wouldn't say he is beyond Jedi and Sith, not some holy mystic beyond light and dark. He has accepted his humanity, where both Jedi and Sith sought to detach themselves from it in different ways. He accepted the strength and weakness that come with humanity and simply strives to do his best, like most people in this world.

@blakethornton5721

WHO UPLOADS A 2 HOUR VIDEO ABOUT KOTOR 2? > watches and enjoys entire video

@rockybubbles3462

It kinda hurt me to realize that (imo) Kreia was extremely accurate, and would’ve completely changed the face of how we see force users in the future through teaching the exile. But the exile did not follow Kreia’s word to stay there and wait for people to come and learn. It was for nothing, nobody learned anything and the pattern continued. In a way, the force won against Kreia.

@XDivineSouljax

The Jedi all turning on you on Dantooine is one of the craziest flips I've seen in a game. You go through all that trouble to save them and reveal the Sith and fix the planets they're hiding on that they could not and then they turn on you

@ThomasRoiloup

The thing I always appreciated the most about KOTOR 2 is that it makes the Jedi and Sith look like two very limited understandings of what the Force is really supposed to be, like a child's best guess of how a massively complicated machine is supposed to work, and the entire point of Kreia was to show that there were many more ways to understand things, possibly infinite ways, and only choosing one shuts you off to all the others.

@lordnihilus3198

Jedi: there is no ignorance, there is knowledge Also Jedi: IGNORE THE WHOLE MANDALORIAN WARS no wonder Kreia wanted them to see.

@volco902

Props Sara Kestelman, the voice actor for Kreia. She did a phenomenal job.

@EdgedShadow

They hired the perfect voice actor for her. She would have never worked if the voice acting was subpar.

@Brainflayer

When you think about it, The Force is the perfect plot device in a way, it ensures there will always be conflict between Sith and Jedi and that neither side can truly be free from its influence without sacrificing something they believe they cannot live without.

@skrounst

17:55 Hayden's delivery of this is SO GOOD! Thoughtful, flirty, with subtle hints of disdain for the rule. I'm glad people came around on accepting Hayden Christensen into the fandom. The things he got dunked on weren't his fault honestly.

@shishisei

The scene between Yoda and again is such an underrated gem. Hayden Christensen suffered from poor directing, but it's body language is perfect. Even back then i was impressed: Anakin was really trying to follow the jedi path, but then the wisest master replied to his cry for help with empty words. And anakin's feelings are conveyed with no words : once Yoda proved himself useless, anakin just slouches and looks away, diverting his eyes, no longer paying attention

@teleportedbreadfor3days

What I’ve always found most interesting about Kreia’s philosophy on the Force comes from the fact that it is still forged by her hatred for it. She says so many thought-provoking things that actually make you wonder how right she really is, but some of the other stuff she tells are flawed enough to make you question her philosophy altogether again. After all, this is still written by somebody who nearly killed the Force itself. She was so carefully and well put together.

@tracesosebee5485

It's... mindblowing how well Kreia's speech works with the Order 66 scene...

@trackts

Funny that the Sith end up enslaved by the force, powerless without it. The Jedi are was consumed by fear and unease of the return of the Sith and are always aware of their own emotions. The Sith code ensures that a Sith will never be free and the Jedi code ensures a Jedi will never be at peace.