One company's quest to find and destroy CFCs, HCFCs, and HFC refrigerants - and methane-leaking wells - as fast as possible. These gases superheat the atmosphere much more than an equivalent amount of carbon dioxide (CO2).
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Information sources:
CA.Gov High GWP Fact Sheet https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/resources/documents/high-gwp-refrigerants
EPA Refrigerant Phaseout https://www.epa.gov/ods-phaseout#:~:text=Class%20II%20substances%20are%20all,phased%20out%20as%20of%202020.
EPA HCF Phasedown https://www.epa.gov/climate-hfcs-reduction/frequent-questions-phasedown-hydrofluorocarbons#:~:text=Consistent%20with%20the%20AIM%20Act,listed%20in%20the%20AIM%20Act.
Difference between refrigerants https://www.coldroommaster.com/cold-room-refrigerant-system/
EPA: How to Properly dispose of refrigerants https://www.epa.gov/sites/default/files/documents/ConstrAndDemo_EquipDisposal.pdf
EPA: Understanding Global Warming Potential https://www.epa.gov/ghgemissions/understanding-global-warming-potentials#:~:text=Methane%20(CH4)%20is%20estimated,27%2D30%20over%20100%20years.
International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) AR6 Report https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6_WGI_Chapter_07_Supplementary_Material.pdf
0:00 The Problem
1:00 Acquiring Refrigerants
3:40 The Destruction Process
4:49 Founding Tradewater
5:30 A Climate-First Mission
6:35 Going International
8:26 Capping Methane Leaks
Script:
The secret sauce inside this heat pump, your fridge, and air conditioner, is the refrigerant that circulates inside, expanding and compressing to move heat from one space to another.
But if this chemical escapes it’s a problem because it heats the atmosphere much more than an equivalent amount of Carbon Dioxide. [show how many times CO2]
So, when an appliance reaches the end of its life cycle, the refrigerant is - hopefully - recovered into canisters that often get left around to degrade and leak.
[Show clip from Honduras of canister leaking]
Few people understand how big of a disaster it is when this happens.
Luckily, the most potent warming gasses are no longer produced or are being phased down, but because there’s no easy way to properly get rid of it, there are probably many million appliances and tanks full of it still out there.
Fortunately, one company has made it their mission to hunt down these canisters - these climate grenades - and safely disarm them.
To learn more, I visited them in Chicago.
“There’s no regulatory obligation to destroy this stuff, and that’s a role we can come in and help fill.”
Valeria leads a team that travels across America finding refrigerants and paying people cash for them. She took me along on a quick local pick-up.
We didn’t want to freak the customer out by filming them in front of their house, but back at the warehouse, I saw the goods.
Inside, I found Moises working on the next step.
How refrigerant gases are destroyed.
The team stores the refrigerants in these larger tanks until they’ve aggregated enough to fill this beast.
That happens at a facility like this one that superheats the refrigerant.
“Rotary kiln incineration…we are literally burning this gas to break down the chemical bonds and rendering the component parts essentially inert.”
When I sat down with Tradewater’s founders at Jackson Park, I learned this work started on a much smaller scale.
[Explaining carbon offset credit, California Cap and Trade, and how the company makes money]
[Gabe discusses how refrigerants are usually collected and destroyed, and how TW’s climate-first approach is different]
[Tim discussing growth]
With its US operation set up and scaling quickly, the team is working internationally to make an even bigger impact, but that comes with some serious challenges.
[Gabe on navigating each country’s different systems]
Back in the US, Tradewater has begun partnering with state governments to stop another dangerous gas from escaping: the methane spewing out of millions of uncapped, orphaned oil and gas wells, emissions that have a warming potential 81.2 times that of CO2 over a 20 year period.
The team is leveraging the skills of former oil and gas industry workers who get this specialized job done right.
[These gasses cannot be sequestered once released]
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The secret sauce inside of this heat pump, your
fridge, and air conditioner is the refrigerant that circulates inside compressing and expanding
to move heat from one space to another. But if this chemical escapes it's a problem because it heats
the atmosphere much more than an equivalent amount of carbon dioxide. So when an appliance dies or
reaches the end of its life cycle, the refrigerant is hopefully recovered into canisters. But those
often get left around to degrade and leak. "And now
we have a little hole there that you cannot
see but there's actually gas coming out slowly. Right now I can smell it. But this is just what
happens when these cylinders are sitting here for so long. There's about 13 out of the 500 that
are empty completely empty we can see the rust here." Few people understand how big of a disaster
it is when this happens. Luckily the most potent warming gases are no longer being produced or
are being phased down. But because there's no easy way to properl
y dispose of it there are many
millions of appliances and tanks full of it still out out there. Fortunately one company has made
it their mission to hunt down these canisters - these climate grenades - and safely disarm them. To
learn more I visited their home base in Chicago. There's no regulatory obligation to destroy
this stuff and that's a role we can come in and help fill. We'll store these by the different
refrigerant types. So this one's all of the R-502. We ship out boxes, you put y
our material in,
and then they get mailed back to us. These little labels show us, on the back end,
it identifies on the tank level exactly what each of these tanks are. Valeria leads a team that
travels Across America finding refrigerants and paying people cash for them. She took me
along on a quick local pickup. So we mostly are purchasing CFCs so that's R-11, R-12, R-113, R-114, R-500.
We, as of this year, started also purchasing HCFCs like R-22 and R-502 .We plan our trips around the
n
umber of pounds that we're looking to collect and the type of refrigerant we're buying. It's
folks driving around regionally and shipping the material back. Or flying into a major city,
doing a pickup, shipping it out, and then flying back home. We have a lot of folks that try and
treat this as, frankly, like a retirement savings thing. They think it's liquid gold
and they're just hoarding this material for years and years. They're buying it from neighbors?
Neighbors, on Craigslist, Faceboo
k Marketplace, garage sales, car shows. Essentially how it works is
a bunch of people with old cars will come together and they'll come with material to sell
to each other, and at like a pretty penny. And eventually they realize I no longer need
this need this, or they pass away. We've had clients' families reach out. 'I remember
my husband or my brother - whoever - was talking to you all about selling this refrigerant and he
just refused and he is no longer here.' We should be here in a se
cond. We didn't want to freak
the customer out by filming them in front of their house, but back at the warehouse I saw the goods.
Dupont Freon 12. It's funny because you can see here this is a K-mart label. So this guy - or
whoever he got it from - at some point got this can for $4.25 cents over in Kmart. And
there's an old 2008, maybe. Or August, 1982. Who knows! Inside, I found Moises working on the next
step. So here we have one. I'm going to make sure it's at zero on our weight scale.
And then before
we fill it, I want to make sure that it is R-12. Don't want to mix our refrigerants. This device here
basically tells us what type of refrigerant is in the cylinder itself. So it's testing so we can
see our results. R-12 100%. So they all varying sizes... The team stores the refrigerants in these larger
tanks until they've aggregated enough to fill this beast. So that can hold up to 30,000 33,000 lb of
refrigerant. Wow! That's the megaload. That thing needs a police escort
going through. At the end of
the year we've probably done like maybe four or five of these. Destruction happens at a facility
like this one, that superheats the refrigerant. The most common destruction method that we've
used involves rotary kill and incineration. We are literally burning this gas to break down the
chemical bonds and rendering the component parts essentially inert. When I sat down with Tradewater's
Founders at Jackson Park, I learned that this whole Operation started on a mu
ch smaller scale. I started
researching a little bit and found on eBay that one could buy old refrigerants, particularly
the really potent stuff, otherwise known as R-12. So I bought it. And it was an interesting
and exciting moment to think 'well there's an elegant form of pollution prevention,
you can simply buy it.' And I bought more and more of it. Come 2013, I was able to figure out
how to get it destroyed and credited in the California program and then sold as carbon
offset credits.
And that's what really started the whole adventure. Most of the other people who
were doing this work were refrigerant people who are handling refrigerants, selling refrigerant,
cleaning and reusing refrigerant. And then the carbon protocols came out and they realized there
was money to be made if they destroyed some of it, and so they do it on the side as a supplement. But
you came from an environmental background, and the mission of tradewater was to think climate
first. But if you think
about what it started with that first 50,000 ton of impacts of CO2
equivalent. Now we've done 6.2 million tons and we're on track to do 22 million tons over the next
5 years. Some of the recent estimates say that, if you look at the generation of gases that have high
global warming potential, there's about 90 billion tons of CO2 equivalent that have been - and will
be - produced before we completely phase out the production of these harmful gases. We've done 6.2
million tons of CO2e--it's a
drop in the bucket of what the world needs to do. With its US operation
set up and scaling quickly, the team is working internationally to make an even bigger impact. But
that comes with some serious challenges. In every country that we start to identify refrigerants
that we want to collect and move for shipment, you have to go through a similar process that took
us years in the US to get right. So when you go to Ghana the rules are different than when you're
in Honduras, which are differe
nt than when you go to Thailand. If you're in Thailand you're
destroying in Thailand, so that's a different system. If you're in Honduras you're destroying
in France. In the US it's one thing, right? It's a developed country with an infrastructure for
recycling, recovery, and reclamation of these gases. When we go around the world, these are
the technicians who come out when you are either getting rid of a system at end-of-life, or when
you need to repair it. You have to have certain equipm
ent to recover the gas when you fix
a system so it doesn't leak out as you open it up, and to then store the gas. And not everybody has
that equipment, and it's expensive. And even those who have the equipment, and will go through
the process of recovering gas into a tank, if they don't have something to do with the gas that
they collect, it gets full. And they say can you take this? Can you destroy this? Can you get rid
of it? And if there's no destruction technology or no recycling techno
logy in a country - which is
true in many parts of the world - they fill up the cylinder, that's their only cylinder, and then they
go back to releasing it into the atmosphere. And so as we think about expanding this work and
doing it well, it is about training. It's about investing in these communities to give them the
equipment. And most importantly, it's making sure that those who go through the trouble of doing
the right thing can have that cylinder emptied, that gas destroyed, and they
get their cylinder
back to keep going. Back in the US, Tradewater is partnering with state governments to stop another
dangerous gas from leaking: the methane spewing out of millions of uncapped oil and gas wells,
emissions that have a warming potential 81.2 times that of CO2 over a 20-year period. The team
is leveraging the skills of former oil and gas industry workers who get this specialized job
done right. Once production ceased and it's no longer economic, the well should have been ta
ken
apart and plugged properly. That is pull all the tubing out of the hole, put a plug down in the
bottom of the hole, and then fill that hole with cement. Cut everything off here and there would be
absolutely nothing out here in this farmer's field anymore. They were supposed to be plugged by
the people who drilled them. And often times the people that drilled them either they went bankrupt,
became insolvent in some way, essentially took off and left these wells on landowners properties
without a real solution. I look at these millions of wells, we wanted to understand 'how many of
these are leaking?' Quickly discovered it was the majority of the wells. These gases cannot be
sequestered or pulled from the atmosphere once released. So there's a lot of interesting projects
to preserve trees and soil as well as all the carbon capture technology. That will bring
CO2 out of the atmosphere, but it will not bring refrigerants or methane out of the atmosphere.
To support their work
and help it get done even faster you can voluntarily offset your own
emissions through the link below like I did for this trip. It's surprisingly affordable. Thanks
for watching. Make sure you're subscribed here to catch the next climate solution I profile. [Shivers] Now
I'm going inside to enjoy my nice warm heat pump.
Comments
Tradewater seems to be one of the few offset programs that can definitely be proven to work as intended.
hoarding refrigerant as an investment is so wack to me lol. this is the first time I've heard of this
Love that this company is working to get rid of refrigerants!
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U knowingly letting R12 vent into the atmosphere, yes Id be suprised if the E.P.A doesnt show up after this. MY Universal 608 Certification would be taken away forever, and fined $100,000 or so. Wow. Your business needs to be shut down and the freon carried to a reclaim center