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The Shock Joxx - Full Show - Sports Talk, MLB, NBA, NFL, NASCAR, NC PREPS - July 9, 2022

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vin zach tom and terry the fantastic four i guess you could say of the sports talk show world and i'll tell you who else is fantastic shelby heating and air brings you saturday morning sports talk each and every week give them a call 704-487-7877 check them out online shelbyheating.com it's been some 97 degree days here lately if your system's not you know operating an optimal performance give shelby heating and air call once again 704-487-7877 online shelbyheating.com kevin well good morning ev
erybody i'm looking at pictures of the al bundy look like it is why a tittle that was fun to look up this weekend i actually have a polk high t-shirt i i need to wear it yeah that'd be great 33 polka al bundy who is from does anybody know where al bundy is from he is from rutherford he is from youngstown ohio the pride of youngstown and he played for ursuline high school he played football against my dad al bundy played football against my dude well al bundy's not a real person yeah well ed don'
t need it did he get four touchdowns he's out freaking bundy i don't care oh well good morning everybody i was trying to i was pulling up the hal bundy uh looking like that well what i mentioned that is is zack we've been looking at some baseball cards and and this is uh this is one of the ones flipping through the and i showed the guys at the stores the other day and they agreed with me and thought it was hilarious but this is the uh the white hittle from the new york giant san francisco 49er u
h quarterback uh that look has a little resemblance to uh mr mr bundy there i tried to find those old cars i should have typed in cars because those ones look better than the pictures here's one of the ones uh from him four touchdowns in a single game right there is that all right uh good morning everyone i don't know if they would help you from getting a concussion at all what those helmets yeah i don't know terry you played in those do they help keep getting a concussion what you can't tell me
the how much you wore looking close to that that's the one bar look at that thing come on what did look at that he upgraded the two bars in that picture yeah yeah that's the p that's the card we were looking at it looks like him but folks what the folks listening on the radio uh you can watch every saturday live on youtube ktc broadcasting youtube channel uh here with i'm kevin hastings zach may you terry reinhardt thompson funny we got a big day today we got major league all-star starters were
announced we've got nba free agency all kinds of craziness going on in uh my mom requested that we talk about the baker mayfield trade did she think we were going to skip over that part today oh she she wanted to know how does she she's probably out by her yes but but maybe be a little bit too early but she'll be out by the pool eventually today if she gets any sun if the clouds ever break i've been enjoying the memes she might be oh yeah i mean it's it's it's so bad for cleveland i mean it's j
ust it's just such a cleveland deal free for all so we've got uh carol well that tom it's no longer your issue it is now zach's issue baker baker mayfield he's now zach's issue we'll get into that and maybe he'll win us panthers fan is that good bad well he's working with an offensive minded coach i mean he had one in cleveland and stefanski but uh you know i think rule well i think him and rule will get along great i think it's going to work out fine for carolina now is he going to have a pro b
owl year and all that about all that i think he'll be serviceable for the panthers one thing about mayfield is he seems to enjoy a situation where everybody counts him out he seems to like to do that i told you so i'll give him credit for that it's just cleveland is cleveland will be paying baker mayfield almost one million dollars to play them tom wait wait were you ever that kid in the class who wanted to participate in a teacher told you shut up all the time yeah that's awesome we're going to
talk about it in the nfl section not the if we if one of us comment on that tom we'll be here till 8 40 talking about that so i'm sorry trying to slow up the slow up the train i apologize uh we've got american legion baseball everyone is on the edge of their seats for that update right zach because you know we're the place to to listen american legion baseball uh ktc broadcasting charitable post 100 of course home of that as always has been and always will be uh cleveland county no longer shelb
y uh on wohs uh last night uh folks chevrolet opened up with a seven to nothing win over matthews in the best of five second round series uh they will play today at matthews uh tonight uh seven o'clock and that will be on ktcbroadcasting.com 92.9 fm and 1590 am in your home for terrible sports w-o-h-s tonight uh tom was the umpire last night night and he ruined my schedule today uh terry and uh because they're scared a little rain out there other games got in terry i don't know well we waited i'
m on a neutral site right now we waited a full we waited a full uh hour and both coaches i guess got a little impatient with waiting there and we were in the bottom of the third we were willing to stay did you have a delay before that i was trying to no but what took so long to get to the third inning then it was just it was a slow moving game there's a lot of a lot of three two counts a lot of foul balls just a lot of you know and well what i mean by a lot of bass runners with no scoring you kn
ow it was it a lot of throws to first base you know it's one of the it was one of those games because once you get in the second round like every run matters right so like in another game where you wouldn't maybe throw five times to first base all of a sudden you're throwing five times to first base and it just took it just took a while for the game to get going but uh uh you know it's a good ball game it was 1-1 and gaston was threatening in the bottom of the bottom of the third inning they had
runners at first and second that's for the uh start today they had first and second no outs as a shelby pitcher uh i can't remember who was pitching for him tall kid he goes to nc state i can remember everything else but except his name of course but he was he was throwing pretty well and then maybe started to lose the strikes a little bit i think he walked a guy hit a guy and then and then the lightning came question i have tom this is one of the things that bothers me about high school or any
of these any of the baseball that we now do besides major league obviously is the pitch counts so now does the starting pitchers not have to they can't come back today and finish the game right it depends on how many you know you guys are in the thirds it's got to be close to about the number yeah and they both threw a lot of pitches so i would say they're probably both under 60 which means that's a less of a break and this really you know the fact that if gaston burns an arm plus they had to p
lay a three game series with hickory that sort of got drug out because of weather so i think it works the shelby's advantage because they do have more arms uh and yeah you're right kevin when you start when you start burning pitchers for these pitch count rules it's tough i mean they basically lost what an intern or two of pitching because that kid could have went on and pitched however many pitches he needed i think i think now he's only going to get half a game in then he'll lose today's game
they won't be a pitch to game four as opposed to game three basically right yeah it's tough it's tough basically depending on how many pitches it's it's tough and the reason why we have these rules is because you got some dum-dum coaches to sit there and throw a kid till his you know he needs tommy john and the sad thing is that it's just like anything else i mean you could send one kid out there to run five miles and he's fine he said another kid out there to run five miles he can't make it aro
und the track once okay yeah all bodies aren't right i've got kids on my team yeah one kid weighs 45 pounds and is this tall he's older than the kid who's tallest man weighs about 50. why would they have the same arm rules okay and for me we've talked about this before it's ridiculous in football there is no pitch roll the football is four times heavier than a baseball you throw it 75 times nobody cares also tom when you threw a no pitch let's say you call a no pitch and the pitcher actually thr
ows it does that count against his pitch count well i called him right yeah i called a bulk and the pitch didn't count so the pitch this pitch didn't visibly didn't hurt his arm so it's all ridiculous or throws to first base right throws the first base don't count can i take less warm-ups between innings what if someone who doesn't want and the tommy john argument that thing first of all most guys are better after tommy john right so second of all i played with one guy one guy that made it to th
e miners in two different teams one person okay he threw thousands of pitches whatever it was never he didn't make it to the majors because he didn't throw enough he threw too many pitches in high school baseball he's got the strikeout record ain't nobody gonna touch it because you can't throw enough enemies to get there and that argument to me almost every pitcher who's tired or starts hurting is going to come out or or it's just not i that one that one just blows my mind in the football thing
because terry they'll practice we'll practice with our little paddies on our helmets too right so but in the game we take them off so are we are we worried about that or not again it's the the the safety aspect of of the pitching in baseball i don't know when it started who started it when it just went over over the edge on oh i guess some kid through 200 innings or something but but to me it it it ruins the baseball team as far as that goes tom like what like what he just said your ace is now o
nly pitched three innings and he we expected him to go five or six today and now we can't have him till game whatever will you get two today then game three maybe sunday if that's he can go two or three in this i don't know and i it's gotten to a point where it when it affects the game like i said i i watched i watched phillip russett out there one day at bessemer winning the game in the seventh his pitcher run out of pitches can't give up i think he would go one hit the whole game in the sevent
h has to take him out because of pitch count get beat by one run they scored two with off off the relief pitcher and that right there should probably should have never happened that guy should never come in the game and it that this stuff is i we've got to find a somebody's got to step up and find a happy a happy medium to fix that the guy for the concussion guy tried to come out the movie they just threw all his stuff under the bus and they don't care about that anymore but kids concussions con
cussions concussions all the time and that's just not an issue at all to the state of north carolina to whatever states there are so i just don't see where they who makes that decision i guess it goes all the way to the top terry is that is that the athletic association on who does the pitch count rules is that them well it's them it's a whole association i mean it's more than one person yeah but done by american legion baseball i i still think when you go back i mean i mean it's different than
high school obviously right yeah i remember a young kid from holland tech that pitched and and i think that's when it was put all over the paper i mean this kid pitched 150 some 160 some pitches maybe 170 somewhere in that range and it just went irate because they never took him out but he is the best pitcher they had so that was their only alternative to winning because if they would have subbed like he was talking about brought somebody else in the kid would have lost you know but i don't know
i mean when you when you talk about kids growing up and that goes all the way back down to little league and everything you've got to worry about it that's like teaching kids to throw curve balls too early teaching kids to throw knuckles and stuff like that when they're only in nine and ten eleven and twelve year old come on now to me that's weird because yeah i'm throwing strikes that's what i'm saying you know fastball have people hit it but but as far as the the arm stuff terry i don't think
that's the the hundred and fifty hundred again you named it one time right yeah but that jumped all over the paper when that happened and to me if you say that to me you know what i say who cares is he hurt is he yeah he's gonna throw tomorrow he's gonna throw the next day like unless you get hurt like again well how can you put a rule let's say greg maddox whatever let's say you got a regular-sized person like greg maddox and then like my kids you got a little mini guy and you got a big old gu
y how do you make the same rule for that you can't it's insane and that's what i think again terry i i get it you don't want to hurt the kids but the the curveball knuckleball that's to me that's sportsmanship as opposed to physical thing like i'm not i like again my kid can't throw if you can't throw if you're walking people why are you throwing curveballs that that's where that's that's on my end where i feel on that but the physical thing i i don't if again we're either worried about stuff or
we're not so you put a pitch count on a baseball player let's put a pitch count on the quarterbacks they go to summer they throw awesome there is no pitch count on anything is there seven on sevens can you throw 150 can you throw 500 balls friday night in the with the state of north carolina care no so what's the difference on that and they get a concussion by somebody hitting them they don't care one bit because you know what that one's doing terry that one is making the money no you're right
that's true the baseball thing i i think that that i think what terry you're right i think what happened with that i think a lot of it ended up being coaches mad as they were getting beat by a guy and said well he threw 150 pitches he hurt his player as opposed to hey maybe we should learn how to hit this guy i bet there's a lot a lot of that of jealousy of we don't have the pigeon we can't beat them because that guy pitches 150 pitches but what is the how do you get a line well there you go tha
t i mean i don't know where you draw the line because you know you used to stuff like that and that's probably happened okay he's close to his pitch cause he's coming out here in a minute you know i mean i know that's happened just take pictures yeah well why wouldn't you why wouldn't you uh the first time through why wouldn't you take the first pitch everybody think about that's nine pitches and you only get again i was told i thought whatever i was doing we were like um you get 35 pistols you
can't fish the next day and i'm like well i'm gonna take the first two pitches and that's 18 pitches to the first two he's out in two innings yeah out in two innings if you take two pitches of a batter or well if you obviously don't bat nine guys i know weird math on that i'm just saying two or three ends it's just i don't like it i don't think it's i think you should let the coaches and the and the players do themselves on that um the legion these two teams will play each other time you were as
king about that yeah if they play each other winner charitable matthews braves and uh cleveland um i mean obviously there's no rules on the girls softball and that's and they said that that doesn't actually hurt the arm um but but you can't sit there and say a baseball uh throwing overhand it does but footballs don't well they used to have that in softball but now they've went totally away from it because they understand that it does not hurt a girl pitching so she's got total innings now that s
he can pitch all right tommy well we're going to get into the panthers new quarterback when we come back we've also got nba free agency terry is ready to move to portland to be damian lillard's butler with a huge contract uh can they could the contracts i mean at what point i mean if you're making 120 million terry and what's that zach what did jordan buy the uh hornets for what i'm like 300 253 so he's making two years what jordan bought the hornets for i just blows my mind y'all when i saw tha
t i'm like you are unreal i mean that's 61 million dollars a year 275 jordan bought the hornets for so 61 million dollars a year yeah and that's what i sent y'all i said in five or seven years if we live that long somebody's gonna make a hundred million yep we're gonna it's gonna be getting paid i just want to know why you keep saying if we live that point well i'm so concerned with this statement does he have plans no does he know something we don't who's we in this in this sentence i mean you
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hot again exactly 704-487-7877 for me all right here we go no that's not here i thought oh where'd it go the old one old one i was looking for anyway here we go that's what i'm looking for this is for zack [Music] in our grand old days from the mountains to the ocean carolina carolina from the end zone carolina zach when they score a touchdown what song do they play now do you remember do you know tell you do you know no no boom boom boom boom oh yeah first ten years zach they played that song t
hat you just heard on radio every time they scored every time they did anything you heard that in the stadium i remember sitting in erickson stadium in 1995 91 not what 95 that was they were tam playing clemson at 96 97 98 years sitting in erickson stadium listen to that song every two minutes that's why that's why how i know the words to it is because it's it's ingrained into my head at some point that i heard this all the time it's awesome have you heard that before i heard no really nice fans
well uh we are here for one one reason only that is after weeks and weeks weeks of speculation the panthers now have a new quarterback the panthers new quarterback and their old quarterback combined in the last four years had the most interceptions in the nfl zach and they just drafted the guy in the third round who some people wanted him to be the starter this year uh a lot of confusing fusion um i'm gonna sum up what i think i think it has been nothing but a matt rule trying to save his job a
s best he can keep this job as best he can and it's just i think that higher has been the weirdest situation from the get-go and uh zach will let you take it away as you now have a brand new shiny quarterback and all you gave up was a fifth round pick for it right you said from the very beginning with matt rule i i don't understand why they just right out of the box give him like what seven years seven years without ever very very odd to me um but yeah trying to save his job i'm not upset that b
aker's here uh he has won a playoff game um terrible real quick terry i don't even think jimmy johnson got seven years total in dallas dude uh got a seven year deal for coaching baylor yeah jimmy was a national champion he didn't even get to one two and then guys this is what happens when billionaires who think they know everything yes buy a football team see jerry jones see daniel schneider now let me see jerry jones tom i'm going to defend i'm going to defend jerry you have to do what's he won
in the last 30 years he played college football yeah i don't care but he also come out and when he took i played college football i don't care jerry jones played college football at arkansas i i teach i teach at burns high school does that mean i could be the secretary of education for the united states you can't say that as jerry jones though i mean it's when he first come in what did he do he goes against jimmy johnson what they do they turn the whole thing around and they win super bowl beca
use minnesota basically handed you the super bowl no jerry jones was known jerry jones what he was doing was jerry jones gm you know was jerry jones the gm yes or no no okay thank you what happened when jerry jones made himself the gm and the de facto coach okay what's dan snyder doing with the redskins what's tepper doing with the panthers he can't even build a facility take my ball and go home people become billionaires i hate to say this you're gonna be mad people become for not being the mos
t the most honest straightforward people yeah i don't think pepper cares about anything other than correct making money correct i feel no matter what happens i think jerry wants to win but jerry really likes to make money he really was also he wants to be on tv more than anything that's jerry's thing he wants to be he wants to be a celebrity he wants to be the dallas cowboys jerry jones also come out and said that he'd never take a college head coach so i i gave him a lot of credit there and two
of them won super bowls for him i mean that's what he said he said i'll never do that and he took in two of them one super bowl swarm right yeah very sweet make sure you're sending the fruit basketball i'm just saying they set a fruit basket jimmy jerry did not learn because the two guys that won super boss for him came directly from college but now they were successful in college yeah they were you don't hire matt rule hey let me get the temple and baylor coach talk i'm sure he can beat the pi
ttsburgh steelers jump on that wagon like again and then look at him i i you know most guys that look like that played like in the nf played at some point well i don't want to jump back to zach he's just like so you have a quarterback now how many more wins does baker get you than what you would have i'm gonna say i'll give them two what did we do the other day the super bowl odds for the panthers went down i think i think this could be i think it could be a good fit i think it can but you know
i'd say brown's fans are whiny but wait what do you what do you mean somebody charlotte weiner fans yeah yeah i mean the fir that when they get up and leave in the third quarter because you throw an interception i mean there we've got to be upgraded from last year because cam was our starter so who'd you move in front of in your division atlanta atlanta don't have quarterbacks we got mariota that's that's that's probably the only person you moved ahead of uh the saints don't have a quarterback i
mean who they got like he's recovering from an injury um but the the new orleans does have a defense right they got a very good defense which is very unusual for so you got tampa then you got new orleans then comes carolina so you basically stayed at the city you were in when the season with darnold you're still in the same time i would i would bet the over on how many catches christian mccaffrey is about to have this year he's gonna catch a hundred he might break honest to goodness he might br
eak the receiving reception's record because baker mayfield dumps it off yeah he was y'alls tied in yeah i don't know so christian mccaffrey's about to catch 9 000 passes this year swing pass just write it down you thought cam then were bad throwing swing passes just wait back now he's going to throw some pretty good balls to dj more when he gets open you'll like that yeah like he's got it's it's he's got brett favre syndrome where he'll he'll put it he'll try to put it in there uh whether it ge
ts in there or not is is different um i think one thing tom and we talked about this before that we need to you know these young that i've mentioned before on these young quarterbacks is talking about their early success and burying them before they're where they've even had haddy success horrible let me pull up peyton manning he was horrible and some people i don't think he had like 27 interceptions in his first years yeah it's awful um and some people think he's just the greatest thing ever um
so manning first year three and 13 56 percent completion percentage 28 interceptions 20 15 touchdowns intersect 26 touchdowns 28 interceptions this first year second year 26 touchdowns 15 interceptions 62 percent team 113 games next year team won 10 games uh touchdowns 33 to 15 so improved really quick and then the fourth year had a terrible year 26 touchdowns 23 interceptions and 27 touchdowns 19 interceptions so in peyton manning's first six years guys 40 50 60 70 88 91 exactly 100 intercepti
ons in this first six years peyton manning so then the next let's do the next one add up till i get to 100 10 10 10 9 that's 39 plus 14 53 plus 1265 plus another 33 88 the rest of his career in indianapolis the next one two three four five six seven years in apples he threw less than a hundred so first first six years hundreds next seven eighty three four five something like that he threw a lot of passes though yeah so what i'm saying is that the young guys you've got to let them to expect them
to come in from wherever they played let's say carson wentz for example san diego what is it what's it called it's not san diego state los angeles carson north dakota state oh north okay yeah um expect them to come on the field and then be the nfl defense in the first two or three years is ridiculous um one of the points i was that that you know some of you guys favorite announcer skip was trying to make uh tom is that baker set the touchdown record as rookie here and won seven games on a team t
hat did or was the six games six or seven games for a team that hadn't won any and won one in two years um and then he made the playoffs on the playoff game obviously we know the situation where we're at but with all that so what he was just saying is that zach you guys he yes you might have less talent overall in carolina but if you can keep him there that he thinks it's a good situation for you guys now what i i said a long time ago i like having the two young quarterbacks baker uh baker and d
arnold then you make them pfeiffer you'll truly know which one's good now so where are you feeling on that i'm in the corral thing who should be the backup should they cut darnold or or or what do you do with corral they said darnold's had a really good uh so far just done well this uh off season uh and then baker's gonna be coming in behind on on a new offense too so it comes into play how smart are these two quarterbacks on picking up a new offense dude i always got to come in to play can you
pick up the you pick up the playbook they can't cut darnold they have to pay him it's the same situation we can't cut him now mayfield we're only having to pay him like four and a half million i think i think cleveland was picking up 10 or something like that for him so um because cleveland are stupid it's going to be very interesting how can you see this is what happens when baker's not part of the trade baker wasn't part of the trade he needed to be part of the houston deal he needed to trade
him before he should have been part of whether whether it was part of that deal or not he needed to be traded before if we're taking three if you're we're giving you three number ones you're taking baker mayfield in a salary i think i think baker's uh well worth a fifth round pick i mean i wouldn't that's not the point that's not even i'm talking about i'm telling my i'm talking about for us on our side of the thing i think we did great the point is oh yeah it was the everybody say it they're gi
ving us an f and i'm like how can you give the panthers to f they give up a fifth round pick for a a top 15 quarterback i think he's a top 15 quarterback i mean and you're not paying top six a third of what he's worth you know what i'm going to be gotta give him a seventh this is just something we're throwing in to make the deal so we can you know work out the salary this had nothing to do with whatever pick this all this had to do with money and you're still on the hook for half a salary i mean
it's just it's just this has been botched from the beginning from the from you know and carolina was in the desean watson sweepstakes they were and boy do i wish they would have won that because then they would have been the problem with them exactly would you rather be paying baker mayfield 10 million dollars in a fifth round pick or giving to sean watson guaranteed to a quarter billion dollars a favor what i'm saying is is you have a quarter billion if you wanted if you wanted an adult in the
room and a bridge guy you should have got garoppolo you're gonna let baker go let him go get garoppolo get an adult in the room find your new you know draft the guy whatever there's a lot of good quarterbacks coming out next year there there was a better plan and i know what their plan was their plan was win now well i think if if you really just wanted the baker gone if if garoppolo's health check checked out i think that would have been doing like indianapolis with matt ryan you know get your
bridge guy then draft your guy i mean and and watson would have been great if he doesn't have all his baggage i mean he's got dude i mean and it's back and forth and back and forth you know he's got all these defenders which i will say he's done criminal court he was dismissed i mean i'll give him that but how can you how can you get you know give away everything for a guy well we think he's telling us the truth guys like that don't tell the truth okay they don't tell the truth there's always m
ore there's always more how could you fall for that i just i just frustrating beyond words so my issue with the whole thing is what how we value these picks and how we value these quarterbacks it doesn't know which way yeah we spent four years well think about all the time that the male kuipers in the world went through evaluating baker and sam darner i remember this draft okay then we spend the last four years bakers played one playoff games all this and we get to a point to trade them and the
panthers now remember that draft sam darnold and becker went one and three right yep if you wanted to trade for next year's number one pick what would you have to give up uh your your draft for the next two years and the third pick what if you traded for the first and the third pick would you have to give up to get those so you guys gave up a second round pick a fourth fifth and a sixth rounder to get the top two quarterbacks apparently from that draft class which went one and three so you trade
d a for a second fourth fifth in the c that's all you traded for the first and third pick of the draft and got two quarterbacks out of it that's about as good a dealing as it can get is it not you've got two players quarterbacks who have experience playing in the nfl and teams would move up and give up their whole world to draft one of these guys kyle pitts what what that guy's name that's the tight end and then oh no uh who's the guy from pitt yeah i know you're talking about i can't think of h
is name now yeah [Music] a year or two you can pick one of these young quarterbacks for nothing as long as they don't just become the greatest thing in the world they zach wilson they so the jets trade all that and then they pick zack wilson are they gonna pick another quarterback in the next two or three years replace zach wilson in the meantime they have been picking tackles linebackers whatever but the values for these picks like the amari cooper we got you got a fifth round pick for marty co
oper because you're just taking on the sound right yeah it's money it's the weirdest thing ever and we've got two 24 year old quarterbacks that quarterbacks are playing to 40 years old now and but one of them pans out we're good you couldn't treasure whole team for the number one overall pick but you can two years later and we've seen it happen with the cardinals do you remember the cardinals uh uh what was their quarterback was it rosen josh rosen well here's the thing they they gave him where
are we going right now in the in the where would have he went in this year's draft if like let's say we put the free agents or whatever you want you can put him back in the draft where would he win the draft would have been fifth round no he would have been the best quarterback off the board yes he's been had a kenny pick it and nobody would just cause but people would trade up for kenny pickett but not the banker i mean look what the look what the packers did you know first round they took jord
an cooper on the team yeah whatever that fifth round is can anybody name tom can you name a single fifth round pick the browns have taken uh demetric felt felt is was that this year is that a real person who are these people nobody's getting picked in the fifth round that's starting and that's and they hold on to them like y'all argued over a fourth round it's conditional fourth who are y'all picking in the fourth round zach it's starting it's it's insane the the the and we only paid him four mi
llion so four men a year we picked up on a salary [Music] if all he does is come in and light a fire understand and that's worth it you're haggling over that right you're haggling over the four million is it all right so let's go over the carolina panthers fifth round draft selection since these are so important davion nixon and keith taylor ever heard of either one of them terry somebody say something when they've heard of these people all right how about 2020 draft selections in the fifth roun
d kenny robinson you heard him nope jordan scarlett tell me what position they play zach jordan scarlett don't know he's a running back jermaine carter 2017. corn elder anybody remember corn i don't zack sanchez david mayo gene ben wickery mm-hmm or ben ben wicker have you heard of him benny been winning wickery that was that was a cornerback at one time let's see aj klein he played a couple of snaps josh norman there we go so all the way back to 2012. mormon was a fifth round pick 10 years sinc
e y'all picked a good player in the fifth round you have never heard of the rest of them kealoa polaris didn't even have one in the end 2009 duke robinson terry barnage dante rosario tim shaw jeff king he played a few snaps yeah he did adam see or jeff hartner or you can have baker mayfield drew carr carry any of those isn't that is that valuable at all one pick out of if we get it good practice squad players right you got one quick out of 20 that made the score and we get an f an af one out of
20 years old trade grade so uh every trade grade now that i look up i'm not just nolan void i don't i don't think you know maybe one person gave you an f i looked him up on the thing it was crazy like because that's what i thought tom i thought my goodness they're just looking on everybody else's uh sporting news and everybody else whatever they're doing they're looking at well they give them if i'll give them an f2 you got it you got them you got them for nothing so if it doesn't work out who c
ares my whole deal is this i mean how many wins can he bring and and zack says two okay so you go from what eight and nine it didn't cost 10. it didn't cost him anything he's not under contract until next year that means i ain't winning i thought we had him at six okay so you go to eight eight and nine and if it doesn't work out it costs you nothing after this year they're going to sell some jerseys all right well we got phone caller jp thomas on the phone yes true or false was he there hey thom
as hey good morning guys good morning morning what's going on oh just talking about football thomas how you doing i'm good getting ready to go swing some metal i hope have a good day but hey listen i gotta be honest with you i'm this is the first time in uh in panther history i've been excited about a quarterback you know i'll be honest with you i think mayfield's got some swag a little chip on the shoulder right now and if matt rule don't start him against cleveland on the first game he needs t
o be fired right well sam darnold might have something to say about that well here's the thing like i think mathematically like you have to you know say donald's our guy because they what are they paying 18 million or something yeah about 18. yeah i don't but i don't i just i mean i think with the attitude that uh baker's got i mean i just think and i'm just speculating he's gonna outwork him what are they gonna do when they get to the stadium and there's more baker mayfield jerseys anybody else
christian mccaffrey that's what happened well here's the thing the key we eat we got like arguably the best left tackle since michael was drafted you know and then you know if mccaffrey can stay healthy and yeah i agree with you 100 percent we got to find a solution that tied in i mean because that's really if you look back i mean oh hey that was a big part of our offense with that you know ron rivera day yeah we need to pick us up we need to get it we need to find us a uh we need we need to gi
ve a third round pick up for a good uh good tight end around the league so you gotta have one i mean you have to well thomas tell me how many more wins do you think they get what mayfield yep well see that's just it it ain't it ain't just about mayfield it's about christian mccaffrey played more than three games and then you know with the addition of uh icky you know you know so the quarterback ain't throwing the ball off you know off the ground you know he's not playing off his back all day run
ning for his life you know i think you know all those things work out i mean you know what i mean nine and seven you know 17 10 and seven who knows i don't know but all that's got to come together i just think he outworks him in camp and i think he's more talented i don't know i mean it's it's you when you got mayfield coming off the injury now he did pay he did pass the physical and it was to his non-throwing shoulder but that i i think that is still going to have a little bit of a question mar
k what do you think plus he's got to get in there and learn the system and donald's already been there for a year and true i agree with that but i'm not a fan of tepper i'm not a fan of rules not at all but you know as far as cleveland goes is that like the second worst decision ever by gm or owner compared to like mike dicker giving away 10 years worth of draft picks for ricky williams i'm not sure which one was worse i saw the uh i actually saw a little video on that and many of the guys that
the washington redskins uh uh got didn't pan out like they they bungled a lot of those those draft picks so just because you're getting crazy yeah i think the worst trade in the history uh the worst deal in the history is still the the herschel walker trade you can't say the cleveland deal is the worst in history because you don't know yet uh right we'll see what happens uh you know i think it's interesting situation developing with the players association on watson's side basically saying well
dan snyder uh is involved in similar shenanigans and he's on a yacht off the coast of france uh so why isn't he punished you know why why are these why aren't these billionaire owners punished for doing the same you know what i would say similar so sexual misconduct so yeah why are the owners not punished the same and it is a decent argument but now the nfl has a different problem okay well since we didn't punish the billionaire we're not going to punish watson well now you have an image bro now
you're not punishing anybody now basically it's a free-for-all but we don't really care about women there's a lot of women football fans out there i mean a lot more than that than there used to be so the nfl with this watson mess has it they have a problem and i don't know how they're going to get out of this no matter what they do it's a bad it's a bad result because say you give watson a year okay dan snyder getting a year you gonna make him sell the team what are you doing to him that that w
ould be my if i'm the player's rep for the nfl that's what i'm saying i was like okay our man will sit a year dan snyder should sell that team you know because there's got to be a capability i think the nfl has that authority if you like you besmirch the image of the nfl i think they can take it from you can't they oh yeah or make you sell you know they can make you sell they can't just take it from but they can make it sell so uh i i think it's an interesting situation and it's it's a really no
win no matter what the nfl does i think their best move pr wise is you give watson a year and you make snider sell the team it's like yeah we punish watson but we're also punishing snyder so it doesn't matter player owner black white doesn't matter what you do everybody's being treated the same i don't know oh yeah it's gotta be little i don't know i don't know if they'll do that but they may you know some some people were even talking about watson getting nothing because schneider and some of
these other was the guy craft for the patriots same thing similar similar yeah and nothing happens so i mean you got a choice you got to like you either that's what i'd say either do nothing or deal with both because what if you give watson six games okay you went light on him and you did nothing to the owner i think it's a bad look for the nfl but that's not my problem that would make no sense whatsoever they'd have to do something yeah yeah that they'd probably liable yeah i think it's it's go
ing be uh you know they're they're definitely dragging their feet on the watson thing i mean it's getting we're getting close to middle of july here you know we got pre-season coming up next month we need to figure this thing out you know but you think we ought to put like uh mccaffrey in the slot and then like try to or something i mean because this kid can't you know he's tough as nails today i mean he can't take 100 hits a game and you know stay i mean and then still catch you know 100 passes
you know whatever you can't leave the league in both and keep getting pounded but i think your best bet keep him healthy and and uh longevity his career has put him in the slot yeah that's a mayhew question yeah uh i agree right yeah i mean he can't he can't take the uh he's too he took too many uh let's say he took too many when they didn't matter right what i'm saying you need another running back yeah we need to tell you he needs less touches you need another running back like cleveland's go
t chubb which is the best runner back in the nfl and they still have kareem hunt which does everything christian mccaffrey does right when he's not in there said that we need that work we need that workhorse type running back that don't have to take the hit yeah yeah james stewart so he doesn't have to take the helmet and stephen davis and they you know you've got to have someone else i think i'd stick we just brought him in man he took some hits and went up the middle and stuff like that and ta
ke some stuff off of them so we need something similar this old bowling ball yep all right thomas you have a great weekend i hope everything's good for you everything and uh the weather's good yeah me too brother y'all have a good weekend appreciate help to me i want to go over a couple of uh things real quick um footballs weigh 15 ounces baseball's way five so what's the pitch count in baseball tom i i want to say for allegiance 115 like a high school legion's 115 pitches so if footballs are th
ree times more that means they should only get 35 passes on fridays right [Laughter] is that correct if i'm if i'm if i'm worried about arm shoulders right terry the three it's one third so one third of a baseball one third of a football 35 passes the most you can throw on friday nights i'm i'm asking i'm going to send that in to the athletic association to see what passcode i think yeah we should one no is that not is that a nominal pass counter is that margarita but the basic thing terry's lik
e well i don't want this kid though 150 pitches why would you say i don't want this kid throw 45 balls it's you never have to worry about that at wesley at what point well that's true at what point terry does throwing baseballs with a chance of a linebacker not hitting you more dangerous than throwing footballs with a chance of a linebacker hitting you in the jaw i've been hit by throwing a football i tell you it hurts a lot worse than it does pitching in my poor little sore elbow tommy my littl
e elbow sore right hitting the jaw i'm trying to hit the tight end on a cross by a 300 pound man i promise you the football is worse it hurts like crap you hitting the jaw while throwing them and then we didn't have rules back in when i played terry they should've been a flag every time i threw the ball those dirty players hit people in the face all the time back in i got hit all the time in the face way back in 2003 yeah way back in the stone age about the was it not about them they started say
ing you can't touch quarterbacks that's when tom brady back in the 80s they had to end the grasp rule in the nfl and all that crap when gastineau would do a sac dance all right now tom i've got some education for you all right the herschel walker treat you looking up the picks oh yeah everybody says that yeah future united states senator picked up herschel russell maryland finished tom 12th all-time nfl yardage did you know that not even counting his usfl yards nfl all-time yardage hershel walke
r is 12th jerry rice first brian mitchell walter payton emmitt smith and frank gore are their top five all-time yardage leaders darren sproles6 tim brown seven marshall faulk steve smith jr your man forever returned yeah he did just did he finally realize he's getting ready frank has been around forever ladainian tomlinson is 10th barry sanders is 11th and herschel walker is 12th tom in barry sanders career he only got 140 more total yards than herschel walker and how many super bowls did hersch
el walker win he might have got one did he go back to dallas and get one ended up back in dallas no he came the year after they won yeah he came in 96. that was the ironic thing to do at all he came he left they won they left now as far as the trade went tom can you name anything about the trade yeah i think they got russell maryland darren woods yeah yep um emmett emmett kevin smith yeah minnesota ended up with jake reed so i started to say i started to say irvin but irvin came before that trip
he was irving were before and eight months before the right was 89. um you gotta remember they had er eight men and steve walsh if they choose steve walsh over eight men then you don't have three super bowls maybe you never know emma okay so here here's here's how the picks went minnesota gave them ten they hit on four of them okay it's not like they didn't hit them all of them they hit on four of them well if you give 10 and 40 right that's what i was getting ready to say now one now technical
ly one of them they didn't hit on the emmitt smith pick they had to trade that one to get to emmett okay yeah but they had the capital t again right okay tom what i'm saying jesus christ you can't talk to you what i'm saying is the exact pick that was sent to them was not used to pick emmett smith dallas moved up from 21 to 17 with the pittsburgh steelers to get emmet the 17th pick so 16 other teams passed up emmett pittsburgh didn't want him because they had who'd they have then was it merrell
hodge in 92. he might have had jerome bettis it was i think it was because he was on the bench wasn't uh it was a ram yeah okay uh it's awesome i'm pretty sure it was meryl hydro ball game wasn't it was it barry foster they could have it's mayor hodge and barry foster they they didn't want him at smith uh minnesota's second round pick they got rid of it minnesota's six round pick got rid of it uh russell maryland so that was 90. so the only only one pick worked out in 90 was emmitt when they tra
ded up 91 they got russell smith with the number with the uh was he number one overall yeah number one all with the deal uh they had they had tim worley and meryl hall they had to trade their capital again to get move up with new england patriots for the number one overall pick and get russell maryland so neither one of those were the actual picks minnesota sent them i'm learning just much y'all those are actually traded up for later was like tom said extra draft capital uh in 92 users are part
of the trade uh the second round pick was for alonzo highsmith uh they used to run about it for with the houston oilers uh kevin smith and darren woodson were picked in the 92 draft uh kevin smith number 17 over all and darren woodson 37 overall and terry i will argue the two uh most important draft picks of all of those throughout those years was emmett obviously and then darren woodson oh foreign is more important than aikman and irvin oh yeah i agree and and a lot of people and i'm glad terry
does agree with that yeah um they haven't one reason i think they haven't sniffed the super bowl or an emcee championship game since then terry besides roy williams has he had a good safety and he couldn't cover anything darren woodson was a very very good pick for that if you have a good safety you'll have a good defense and you can compete and darren woodson was just fantastic and i think he was always on the team you had a deion to that that made it just do nothing i always like to double th
e other side and now you're screwed because dion's took that guy out what's has got the other side um i think him and emma were the two biggest picks so anyway in the end um minnesota drafted a mike jones reggie thornton pat newman and jake reed and of course got herschel um in their defense tom the year before uh herschel had 1500 yards rushing holy cowboy in an era where running backs are more important here's what's weird terry he only had five touchdowns how do you got 1500 yards because we
sell you only get five touchdowns then they have like a short that's what happened with marcus allen late in his career that's what he became he became a short yard so i remember that because he was like two yards in all right and he could die he could he he would jump over there frank gore was running yeah remember marcus that was his thing he would jump over that pile the door set finish up in denver yes in 1988 uh that year the year that uh herschel had the uh 1500 yards um it was that year s
o once they got rid of doors that herschel took over got 1500 the cowboys had two young quarterbacks that worked out for them right and that's what i was saying with the panthers like like i i would much rather be in your situation now today than i was last week with just sam darnold and just matt corral right now you have two young good quarterbacks i know we talked a long time on this any other final thoughts on uh baker the panthers or anything else guys we kind of oh real quick i did have on
e thing let's go down the schedule we'll go win loss tommy i'm gonna let you handle week one in the most embarrassing football game in cleveland brown's history we will be we will be paying the carolina panthers quarterback to try to beat us with our third string quarterback who used to be who's quarterback for nc state tommy bitcoin terry you want to take this one i'll take it who's going to win this team you're non-biased carolina panthers browns at panthers carol baker mayfield hosting clevel
and carolina panthers tom i'm going to say this if they don't give chubb the ball 50 times in this game it's and they won't because stefanski never does it they waste him um chubs should chip shut touch the ball every time him and kareem hunt every play i'm not i'm not even i'm not even sure what the browns are going to do i mean they have to know they have to know what's going to happen with watson what if he don't get suspended what if it's baker versus is not a bad quarterback no he's not ter
rible and it's going to take more than one guy to bring him down it's just fun to say an nc state quarterback yeah he's he's actually pretty serviceable all right week two though tom panthers at giants panthers start two and oh baby like last year they did last year three you know yeah can they do it this year zach home against the saints win 3-0 for the carolina panthers terry home against the arizona cardinals arizona cardinals uh that's a loss tommy at the rams oh that's hell zach home agains
t tom brady go back to 500. terry at atlanta oh they'll win now tommy at cincinnati lost zach home atlanta win will you actually we usually split against atlanta that's thursday night football we usually split again terry at baltimore uh that's lost tom home against russell wilson's denver broncos boss it didn't matter that's gonna be a that's gonna be a lot attended game right there i bet with uh denver coming in it didn't matter who russell wilson played for this year you guys were gonna blame
because the very next game at seattle they could win that game at seattle for the win they don't they don't have it i don't know if they got a quarterback drew lock the other one carrick maybe cam newton by week left week four yeah but it's carol better than rule carol better than rule on coach yes i'll take panthers all right uh terry home against mitchell trebitsky's pittsburgh steelers maybe a lot of people attending that game uh if badger mayfield can't believe it's not michael's burger the
re could be too many pittsburgh steelers fans there he's a lot of pittsburgh fans will be right there that's almost like the only one redskins when they come in home against jared goff in the detroit lions oh they can win that game terry at tampa that's a loss tommy at nolan's they'll lose second he'll come a split according to the experts at this table the carolina panthers will go seven and ten that's about right seven they may surprise you you never know you know you never know they're gonna
win something that they shouldn't they're gonna lose something yeah last year they beat the jets the saints the texans the falcons and the arizona cardinals so last year you beat zach wilson jameis winston davis mills matt ryan and kyler murray and i don't know if kyle was playing in that one you're gonna win more than that if your name's david she should be banned from the nfl why is that that's just not a football name oh first name and he's going to like play golf davis mills sounds like a go
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-487-787 shelbyheating.com online kevin all right welcome back to the show let's talk a little basketball nba action uh summer league started up big news coming last night terry two years a hundred twenty-two million dollars for damien lillard drexler in his career made 31 million dollars now we all get you know if you make more you get more that's the in nba and wnba having this issue the wnba think they don't understand they think they they're an employee of the nba they should be getting paid
their money not how much money they make for themselves so there's a big argument there with that um and but the capitalism the money well it kinda is but the money is coming um and we've been talking about this for years the tv deals and one of the main sources of that money is uh that is china and so when half the money comes from china and then your your your salaries explode like this that that's where it's coming from we've talked for years terry about how when you have backup players like
cody zeller making 10 million dollars a year the game is going to change and get way more finesse to where you're not going to have banging you're not going to have any type of physicality whatsoever um the second we get another shaq in the league somebody wants to take it down low and start beating everybody up it might change a little bit because he's also scored 40 points a game somebody like that but i 61 million dollars you'll tell you texas it's all that's almost a million dollars a game
and he could probably if he wanted to he could set out 20 games and get paid the million dollars a game couldn't he he probably could it's just portland i mean are you you must not be thinking about a championship i mean because you're going to play him to stay there and i understand that he can light it up and he can play but i mean we talked about kevin durant going to 50 million and now we got a guy 61 million and i mean guys that's what i sent out i said in five to seven years if we live tha
t long and that's the way i put it because you never know what tomorrow brings but you're talking about in five or seven years they somebody out here gonna get a hundred million dollars to play a game it's gonna happen we're gonna see it it just continues to go up and i i'm trying to figure out how in the world can you afford it how can you afford it as an owner how can you afford it as a team how can the team stay in your area without not being moved i mean it's it's tv yeah it is because it do
esn't matter how many it doesn't matter how many tickets they sell anymore in almost all these sports you see baseball's been doing this for years sixty minutes a million named me a dollars in major league baseball making 61 million it's insane i agree well they're not wasn't trevor bauer making not that much if he was making a lot if they're listen if if basically if you're if your business makes that type of money whatever fine but as far as like what we're talking about the competitive nature
of it is definitely going to change it it's it's going to change everything um and pay to again jordan paid 200 listen michael jordan had to be the most popular athlete of all time so millions and billions of dollars in shoes to be to get them enough money he had to be the best player ever and sell enough in shoes and merchandise to get enough money to be able to buy the hornets one day and then now you're going to have role players are going to have enough money to buy sports teams and do you
not think another player when jason tatum's contract comes alive uh i won't end his brand well see he's like millard's on that super max extension that's when you stay with the same team you stay with the same team you get like 10 more million a year extra and it's that's why i don't like this super max thing because everybody thinks they're super max and they're not it drives me insane it's got to be there's got to be a system where you say you're not a super max player so here's here that's wh
en i sit back all the time and this is what bothers me every time i set back and i think of icuna i give that dude all the credit in the world he thought about himself he thought about his family thought about long term to sign for what he signed for compared to what these guys acuna could get a whole lot more money he got screwed yeah well yeah he did overall of himself he did but he thought about a lot of others don't get to get you that contract how much how much money does a man need nobody
i mean 61 million y'all paid the 2013 yeah you buy an island and a harem i don't know why this what you need the extra for right i don't know i get i guess i don't think that way because i live on a teacher's pay but it's just one of those things where well let's talk a little bit about congratulations to him hey yeah let's talk let's talk i don't envy him but let's talk some bad basketball how about that um charlotte hornet's first round pick does it even start on the summer league team oh come
on think of that y'all your number one pick goes somewhere else and he's talking they traded the number thirteenth pick and then the fifteenth period he started he's not even starting yeah have you watched this summerly no is he hurt no no he's are they preserving him no no he's a jordan pick he said yeah what do you put tom where do you put somebody that can't score where do i put on the bench right that's where he's at we drafted someone every year do i not come in here and say pick the playe
r who wins the one-on-one tournament that's all you have to do you've got all these kids you have no idea who how they're good are you takes you got 19 what is it 18 to 21 year olds you put them in a room they play one-on-one you pick the winner and the hornets can't do that they pick the one who comes in last in the one-on-one tournament every time noah i don't want to hear anyone else tell me we're picking a seven footer for defense yeah and rebounding well good that's awesome rim protection u
nless we can trade him for five years around picks like rudy governor in the meantime our team is is getting picked up by the way we had the we had graham get picked up uh last night for dui devante graham he's on is it not devante who was the guy picked up excuse me somebody from the hornets got got arrested last night last night oh i don't know about that so this is after the miles bridges thing so forgive me yeah miles is facing jail time i don't know who got arrested yeah he beat his wife um
yeah so last night whoever richards is was starting center he had 15 and 11. so why did we draft the 15th over i'll pick somebody can't score the center that started over him had 15 and 11 terry uh i got a feeling he'll still be sitting on that bean right like what it's just stupid sorry i was i've seen that come across there in this new orleans the new orleans guys eh five six players tom played more minutes than our first round i'm just laughing that's a very lincoln county thing to say you'r
e gonna be sitting on that beach oh yeah i did see there's a couple weeks manic played almost as many minutes as williams did had three points williams had five so we wasted a first round pick for five points and free agent science yeah man yeah we might be way more productive being 16 standing because yeah then who then this first round pick from duke oh yeah it's just like a statue you pick guys like that like the williams pick you pick that to fill out a roster like the warriors we need a sho
t blocker because nobody's playing dude that's when you picked it up 30 games a year yeah i i like it when the horn will suck though because cleveland gets to play him like five times a year but i've been watching i've been watching a little bit of the summer league yeah it's turnover after turnover and i mean i understand each other yeah it's not good i mean i mean i'm sorry i i know it's the you know summer league the argument is that american basketball is not producing kids with the basics y
eah and these kids are not staying in college either and they're they're in college just to make a little you know tom it is it's funny it is the aau twitter internet world okay yeah so i can trust me i've been on plenty of basketball courts i can go into court i can destroy a guy my team can win let's say we're going to 21. i get 10 of the 21 points he shakes me one time oh makes me trip up he breaks the jumper and that's all we'll talk about the rest of the day is the guy made you trip with a
crossover as opposed to i just dropped 10 points on his head and won the game it's about like watching lamello baldwin now they do great things and he scores 10 points but it's one play he did in the whole game that's better than gordon hayward scoring 45. [ __ ] in baseball too it's it's it it's the the right you you're the weekend ball stuff like that it's definitely um there is no team teamwork on that and i agree it's it's the basketball thing is is we we don't have uh you know guys coming u
p that that can just can play like that again they talk about the white guys that the ch the chet homer a white american born player and then the europeans come in and they ball you know they play younger well hold them had what 23. in this first and second we had like 10. no okay and you also got to remember terry who's he playing against well i know when kai jones guards you and you get 15 points is that is that gonna be the same as durant guarding him cause that's who's gonna guard him yeah r
eally giannis is gonna guard him what's he is he gonna is he gonna put his shoulder into giannis no so no he will but he'll bounce off all right tom you you you saw the dallas mavericks in person how many people they got on their team they could just stand out there and run with chat holder they got four seven foot white dudes just them not that's why you count the power forwards well they don't have bobon anymore well he couldn't run with him but the other ones that the max cleavers and all tho
se guys they had all those extra seven footers on their team um i just it's we'll see i'm i'm i'm i'm very skeptical on it give it time he could probably stand in the corner and shoot three's like manic i got you know i'd have that oh i gotta i gotta read this one so uh two more things uh basketball eyes one was talking about the wnba pay and everything have you ever guys ever looked at their stats or any of that have you looked at something pay stats are you talking about no no scoring scoring
their actual stats so again terry did they shoot with a smaller ball yes do they shoot from a shorter three-point line yes but if i said y'all y'all play on a smaller goal so you can dunk they would get offended true probably so what's the difference you're gonna shoot with a smaller ball you're going to shoot from a shorter line but you don't want to lower the goal and make the game more exciting if they lowered it to 9 foot it would be fun right i'm 100 on this i'm 100 on this so i'm looking a
t the averages the number one team the best team in the wnba terry 85 points a game that's it the averaging 85 points a game they play 48 minutes i do not know whatever it is that's not good i think they play quarters 10 four tens probably yeah the indiana favorite of the worst place team is averaging 78 points a game stats terry only one person in the whole league averages 20 points a game is that de la dome no brianna stewart okay one person so how do you market this to someone who's not a fem
ale who's not interested in sport a male you i'm not going to see you dunk the ball nobody's going to get 30. what it's going to be nothing but layup so why would i watch what would i come to watch this because again people who play basketball say someone like me who plays basketball or play basketball pretty much feels like you can play the same level as these these ladies did well there's probably some free hot dog night dollar beer right but what i'm getting is that if for an average per like
i'm a sports fan i'm like let me go over and look at the nwm's let's see who's leading and i know they're not dunking and then i say you're only getting 85 and your number one score is getting 21 in a game brianna store she's good so let me i'm gonna look up a call i've watched a little bit of it you know i kind of i kind of agree with you i think they need to find a way to make it more you know some of them deserve more money yeah they i mean listen this is where i put this i mean i guess i wo
uld go back to lillard if a dude's making 61 million and you're in the nba and you're really not the top player in the nba think of that you're not the top player in the nba or we wouldn't quote him as a top we'd probably put him in our top 15 but not a top you know what i'm saying but in their league i mean i think maybe some of them should make 500 to a million dollars 2 million 3 million i mean you know i mean you're talking low numbers here the issue the issue is terry is that you can't pay
somebody money that's not there well they don't have their operating costs run the league the actual nba players are actually kind of paying their salaries and and that's one of the arguments about grinder being in russia is that they're like well she's got to work over there like they make more money overseas because they would rather see them play overseas than they would here people in america but she's getting her contract um all right so listen to this game the seattle storm beat the indian
a fever 50 i mean 73 to 57. and you have that every now and then in the nba terry well somebody scores 50 something six times very seldom but i have no terry it happens nobody has ever won an nba game with 73 points i don't know you might go back and check that yeah 60s well david thompson scored 73 terry seriously look at that 73-57 the leading scorer had 14 for the fever not one other person was in double figures it's not one other person it's the same reason why soccer hasn't caught on as muc
h because americans love games with scoring excitement that's what it is in the in the winning team stuart the leading scorer in the nba terry she had 20 of the 73 points and the rest of the team we had 10 11 8 6 5 9 5 2. but that's what i'm saying if you go to the game tom i'm going to go watch the fever play only one girl is going to get in double figures and as talk about seattle how many bird have did she even play uh this is she even on the team sue bird eight she had a she's a hall of fame
r 21 minutes she's still playing yeah this is her last year again she got to be like 40. well i'm telling she quit did she come back i mean you know that's what everybody does nowaday dawg i know brett favre is going to start next year for the brothers so watson's better all right last week we talked a little bit about shaquille and i and i did some research and i didn't want to bring this back up i want to go over his overrated nba career this is hit what this is his how hit each one of his sea
sons ended in the nba okay so we're gonna go first year rookie play at no playoffs year two in orlando swept by rick smits now remember the most dominant greatest center ever look at all these names i'm about to read down through here year three swept by keem in the championship year four swept by luke longley year five lost four to one to greg ostertag you're six in in ella now this is in la lost he was swept by ocean tack so in back to back years tom what some people think the greatest center
ever is lost eight to one to greg ostertas well sure tate was pretty good he lost eight to one to greg ostertag was he's pretty good in the very next year he was swept by david robinson which is understandable so he got two sweeps so of his first seven years two of them are are respectable he got beat by keem and david robinson then let's look at him then he wins some championships after all the great centers retire and he gets kobe on his team well it took him six games to beat rick schmitz the
n he beat a 35 year old dikembe mutombo four to one then zach real tough one here swept todd mccullough todd mccullough gave him a battle there nc state player no no no no we don't think we've ever have it on mccullough so shaq's is after when he wins his third championship he was swept one two three four five times before that swept not struggled not like i had a battle with oyster attack tom he got me eight to one then he uh so after he gets his three the next year they lose to david robinson
in the spurs again so he lost twice david robson that's respectable oh now then we go now let's mr big and dominant watch this one three of the next four years six foot nine ben wallace takes him out lost in the championship game to the pistons then he moves to the heat loses to them to the pistons in the eastern conference finals four to three to benoist in the next year he gives him a championship when he beats eric dampier eric dampier then the next year he's swept by ben wallace again then h
e's swept by fabricio alberto then he does his retirement tour no playoffs lost to kendrick perkins lost his adrenals ilgauskas so shaq again no playoffs swept by rick smith's swept by keem swept by luke longley 4-1 to ostertag swept by oyster tag swept by david robinson beat rick schmitz beat mutumbo beat todd mccullough lost to david robinson again lost to ben wallace for the first time lost to ben wallace for the second time lost to eric dampier swept by ben wallace again swept by fabricio al
berto no playoffs lost kendrick perkins lost to zadrones so he beat dan pierre in 4.6 yes so he's got four championships right what i'm saying is tom his fourth championship what what the the mystique of shaq is way greater what i'm saying than what his career actually ended up being that's because he's a television personality too well he's a big huge giant man i'm not saying he's not good i'm not saying he's not top 15 but this talk we had last week about hey i'd rather have elijah went on the
court is elijah one getting beat four to one poster to eight to one vote for poster tag oh she takes pretty good is he is elijah getting beat by ben wallace no um so again it's the old bigger dominant whatever he'll kill this person he'll do that but then i'll pull up the stats and he got beat by six foot nine three-time benoist he got swept it's not that he got beat by fabricio alberto he got swept he got swept he didn't do well against lightner either swept by lonely christian ladies but you
also yeah i always when i look at stuff like that i also have to consider this guy is not the one who brought the ball with the court this guy is not the one who said give me the ball and they wouldn't give it to him i mean you know there's a lot of difference here i mean he he's not like a point guard who can dictate what happens in a game or a number two man who can predict what's going to happen in the game no what i'm saying he has to have the ball right there the point of that is of pointin
g all this out is that his mystique is that he was this most greatest dominant thing in the on if you say that somebody's going to show the video of him dunking on robins in that game robinson had like 30 points so it goes back to what you're talking about and if you look at this thing like if you if if if he is the most dominant thing ever you don't get beat eight to one by greg ostertag you don't you don't get beat three times by being give me a point guard or somebody's gonna feed it i think
terry covey was on that team that's what i'm saying so he's not going to get it every time and kobe's not going to give it to him every time swept by greg i know maybe maybe your coach needs to rethink how he's got the game going on let's i mean at one time shaquille was only two percent body fat there's not another there's not another nba player that i know that's ever been in there two percent body fat well let's not forget his free throw percentage of 15 yeah that killed him that you that way
you can hack a shack well that was my point of why the boys could always run lonely and willing to not they're not having problems you just foul them and not worry about you can't do you can't be the best my point is you can't be the best center and and be the most dominant thing ever and then have stuff like this on your wrists you can't get beat three times by six nine guy you can't get swept by fabricio bear two you can't lose eight to win a great oyster tag who is he playing 408 probably ce
ltics swept by ben wallace eric it was a heat and then swept wallace he played for cleveland too phoenix was yeah phoenix was 08. uh cleveland was the kendrick perkins loss phoenix was a alberto so that's what those are those those last four obviously but again you swept not like four to two like if you're the most biggest dominant hardest person to guard shouldn't you make a little bit harder than getting swept by oyster tag win one game allen iverson terry won one game against shaq and kobe re
member though when he had kobe hill and kobe could not get along because kobe thought different than what shaq thought shaq a lot of times thought feed me the ball shaq is wrong about that you know jack's wrong about that right feed me the ball so i get hacked and missed two free throws which is more impressive well that's how i mean i agree now that's that's probably what happened which is more impressive kobe winning two championships of power gasol or shaq going and playing d wade and winning
one with him oh i agree i agree i mean again shaq did not win without the best shooting guard in the nba on his team and he only beat rick schmitz mutumbo now those guys that's who he had to play in the finals can't take he can't say nothing about that but again his wins he doesn't have like a classic career finals win like hey shaq beat akeem in the championship or shaq beat patrick ewing he just has none of that none of that's on his resume it's i beat rick smith mutombo todd mccullough and e
ric dampier and he was he on the heat team that got smoked by dirk was he on that team i'm still there i um remember all the years together yeah okay all right that's that's it on basketball hello fun with that i just wanted to the shack thing just kind of i know i knew he had i wanted to look that up i knew he had had some well he's better than draymond green that's true draymond was at the game last night and they said what do they had a four-time champion that's right huh think of it the lead
er these guys when you look up riding coattails how many championships uh curry's got i mean he got curry stefan curry he would have four as well okay okay draymond's got four four steph got draymond he's four no steph got open so draymond could give him the ball oh god are we doing this we're not doing this let's do something else larry bird and dennis johnson [Music] [Laughter] we'll be back in a few minutes talking baseball nascar more kdc broadcasting.com keep cool this summer with one phone
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and they also have employment opportunities call armstead plumbing at 828-245-7302 and like them on facebook too and we're back on saturday more sports up with kevin the gang he's got some basketball pictures on the computer for those of y'all that i think can i don't know if y'all can see or not i can't see that yeah shaq's really short surprisingly enough he's not she's not as short as the other guy but still i mean jack sure didn't he yeah i mean well exactly you're talking about yao um his
best season he averaged 25 and 10. um and then 22 and and and 10 22 and positions total in the seven years 19 uh 1999 in seven years and disaster people always you have to give rodman all the credit in the world for rebounding yep well these big dudes can't rebound shaq didn't know well barkley and rodman steal the best dang rebound you've ever seen talk about rebounders i don't know if y'all seen the wiggins comment he said i just started going in and crashing the boards and said i didn't know
what rebounds was getting was that easy nobody yesterday well nobody else is trying to nobody else there you go he said i got seven rebounds in one game he said i'll never average four again he said i actually started going crashing the boards he said man i was getting rebounds like what nothing like at no point as the coach been like hey you know they shoot it walk around but now how many players count and this is another thing as we were growing up my coach always says take your shot follow ye
ah you know what i'm saying these guys nowadays do not do that they take the shot and they stand there or walk down the court thinking it's going in yeah it's your zord it is hard to follow your shot unless you know that you missed it unless i know i've missed it when i let go it is so hard to follow a show i i now i tell you what to i played against a guy when i was about fifteen six seven to eighteen we'd play get a lot of pickup games this guy and he thought every shot he missed and he was so
deadly because even because when he hit it you know he hit it but the only thing missing that was on freaking rebound yeah if you follow your shot though from the outside and the other team gets it do a secondary break there's nobody oh yeah that's true now now so tom what you're supposed to do is the highest guard on the court supposed to get back so you're supposed to follow your shot it's supposed to be the other guy's responsibility to get back so if another guard takes it i'm point guard s
o four out of five people is usually taking the shot so i'm backing up anyway unless i'm taking it or i end up under the unless i drive and then dish it to somebody most of the time i'm the one getting back anyway so you don't really worry about that but you do it does it does happen sometimes where somebody's standing around picking their nose not not getting back but that is the responsibility of the other of the other guy apparently um all right uh where are we at baseball is that where we we
re that's where we can go i forgot to mention shelby heating and air sponsoring saturday morning sports talk give them a call out online 704-487-7877 for all your heating and air needs i can play that panther song again if you want me to no so the city of the queen is that was a line was that a real actual line in there yes the city of the queensland we started on baseball right quick my father-in-law got to go down and watch the honey hunters he hadn't watched you know any baseball other than y
ou know high school stuff and he he he he hadn't heard any of our conversations about the way the baseball's played and he come he sat down he says he said he said i only saw one run scored he said it was off a home run he said everything happened was a fly ball he said there was no line drives he he's he's 73. you know he's he said this didn't look like baseball what i was used to he was taking is frank viola still coaching him yes he's still out there cussing teachers you know that one don't y
ou i told you yeah yeah i didn't know if he was out there frankie v was i guess frankie v's living in gastonia now i guess who knows where he's live yeah my gps took me through gastonia on the way to the game because there's a wreck on 85. yeah some places in gastonia well thank you appreciate what you have um all-star starters were named uh so let me pull that for you guys i was looking for something else to probably get to that in a minute um american league kirk is the catcher from toronto fi
rst baseman guerrero second baseman altuve third uh shortstop uh white sox tim anderson third base boston's rafael devers aaron judge mike trout giancarlo stanton and show otani is the dh dh for the national league bryce harper outfielders jack peterson acuna junior and mookie betts infielders third base manny machado trey turner at shortstop jazz chisholm chisolm and miami is the second baseman paul goldschmidt cardinals first baseman and catcher wilson contreras full rosters revealed sunday 5
30 p.m there's your all-star starting rosters what you were talking about the hitting zach mundo i did read an article it might be might have been about yuri i think it was about your ebay um discussing about um how that exact thing about how nobody hits that way anymore and he's been hitting like just a bunch of he's getting a bunch of bass hits doing that is just hitting line drives and hit them whether or not they're shifting they're like you can't shift against this guy because he hits it ev
erywhere like welcome to the world yeah because he knows that but the baseball thing is the same thing with the basketball we've talked about this plenty is that all right so the game of basketball has changed right i just read you the wnba average score is 85. they're shooting all of them threes boys still you're getting 85 points the hornets the other night what was that final score 96-84 terry combined they shot 65 threes it's crazy 65 threes and you still only got 96 84. there's only so much
time in these games um so a little bit of both on on these ends but yeah that was a very interesting article talking about how to how hitting the opposite field and hitting line drives is just not in the game anymore um tommy where's your uh how's the standings going you guys back at first i think we've dropped no we lost four in a row yeah they've had a uh they're they're three and seven i believe i mean i i i've already discussed this team uh it's just they're they're not going to be a playof
f team they're not going to win that division they don't have enough hitting i know i listened to you know well they they they lead the league in like making contact or they're low on strikeouts and all that they don't have enough they don't have enough just raw talent to to compete and even if they do win the central well what are you gonna what are you gonna do with the yankees what are you gonna do with the red sox you're gonna get blown out you're gonna get swept now they got that new minori
ty owner who wants to spend a little money so if they start spending a little money they'll they might be competitive but you can't be competitive year to year when you're like okay gotta find a young guy who's underpaid and overachieving and find like six or seven of those and try to win it's just you can't do it i mean you just can't do it so terry well the question i have terry what let's let's play manager okay base is loaded oh i think i know where we're going base is loaded yeah maybe the
best right-handed hitter in the history of baseball i agree 100 percent is batting one one of the best he's two for two in the game game on the line and you pitch it for him with a rookie because he bats left handed gorman is that one of the dumbest things you've ever seen in your life i sat there dad was pissed i i'm serious i sat there and i watched that and i started to send something out like i did damien lindler last night but i sat there and i'm like no i'm waiting till saturday comes befo
re i mention pujols was the guy coming up they pulled him to put in gorman and he does a routine grounder the second baseman they throw him out at first in and over with bases loaded you're down three to nothing pujols is in your lineup 494 or five home runs and you don't even let him have a chance terry six hundred and ninety home runs okay but i'm just saying but you pulled this guy it's not like he's been in that situation before in his life well put a rookie in there yeah right you're talkin
g about this all the time situational hitting i had no clue best thing and then i sit there and i'm like guys if y'all don't make the playoff you need to go back and look at this game right here coach uh what was you thinking i did not understand it i'm honest to god his splits he's batting like one he was batting like 150 against righties and 230 against lefties well you don't even give him opportunity here's the thing where they messed up in baseball let's let's do some math on this right tom
you're a math major over here right no [Laughter] if you're batting 250 terry that's what 25 they say it's 70 points higher if you're batting 180 the other way it's it's only seven points not 70 points and it's out of a hundred at bats now if you break it down to 10 at bats all you're arguing about is between 1.5 hits and 2.3 hits per 10 at bats so again whatever stat you give me that says your guy is better at 2.3 and my guy's at 1.5 the guy who's got 683 home runs career 296 batting average he
's top three and home run top five in home runs and rbis but we're gonna pitch hit a rookie for him yeah that just blew my mind i i i came online bases loaded yeah sure was they had just that gum either walked the guy before we lost three to nothing cases loaded up and they took him out well how would you feel like if you were the guy that's pinch hitting it's not like he was o for two sometime he had two hits in the game i mean but but what kind of pressure did you put on a guy who's pinch hitt
ing four pujos i mean that's just what what what what happened when they crossed each other when that one went up and the other one went back and he's like who else had two of the five hits in the game terry when that guy's hot you leave him in right all right like dale curry comes in the game at the end of his career you let him shoot three or four and if he hits him you leave him in for a while that's what pujols do and i'm not saying that i mean pujol's model routine grounded to the pitcher y
ou don't know what he would have done but i'm just sitting there thinking he never had the opportunity heard those old pacers talk about bird walking down the court when he was you know what owner or whatever coach whatever he had just dropped ten three-pointers without even warming up i mean they know how to do it it's like it's like a repetition for him you know here's your stat for you what do you what i'll tell you what he wasn't gonna do strikeout yeah he had to put the ball in play he stru
ck out in his career 1300 76 times in 22 years he has 3 300 hits how many bats do you have he has walked he's only struck out 16 more times than he's walked terry in 22 years and it ain't you know you know it's only it only crossed each other over the last two or three years he had more walks than strikeouts before this what's his career at bats at bats uh 11 sorry yeah comparison ten percent ten percent chance here there's a difference compared hills to who you sent up to bat i don't even know
who it was gorman i'll never forget that name that was the guy that came up the back for him and i felt sorry for that guy nolan gorman yeah i felt sorry for him you have you never heard of nolan gorman before that well he's not an albert pujol how about that i know who he's not yeah that's what i'm saying oh well in his career hey wait a minute terry i know exactly why they did this albert's war this year tom now remember okay yeah here we go they've got a better record this year than they did
last year tom they added our poo holes and albert's war is negative half a game terry negative how do you have a negative war no you know why they you got pit [ __ ] because nolan gorman's got 1.3 war this year nolan golan nolan gorman golan batting 260 has one point three awards who's the coach i have no idea the manager the manager you have the manager i don't skipper we got a new one furry it's fire fire i mean i did i mean it blew my mind too do you know who i am who wouldn't be comfortable
with you know albert pujol sitting up there with uh basically how is that a bad decision by letting albert here again who's sitting in the stands like we better pull on him now his mom who's yelling from his daddy his daddy might have been at the gym why won't you you know what his daddy probably showed a lot of raffle tickets yeah like i said i want you and your dad to know that it's better and i started i started laughing when that happened his daddy bought the warm-up t-shirts like that denni
s i didn't even know you could have negative war now the stat is even more ridiculous so so all the war that pool has built up before now is going backwards all right and they have a better record this year than they did last year i don't know anything about all i know is it stands for wins above replacement other than that i have no idea what none this is israel now we know why the angels got rid of it yeah we got a negative negative war negative war it's awful yeah i thought i told him we'd ta
lk about that i'm glad you brought that up you should have just stupid like what the world i don't know i don't get it um well if i'm a fan i'm pissed too not just because we didn't get him to play i didn't get to see him back with bases loaded if i don't understand yeah think about you bought a ticket and you get to see how fools play in there gorman come on gorman bryan nolan gorman do you think anybody bought a nolan gorman shirt immediately after that but well i knew i knew right then i said
i'll not forget this guy's name i know his last name i don't know it's first but gorman's is the last all right jp it's awesome anything else in there any other news and notes for you jp not for me no all right well we'll be back in a few minutes kdcbroadcasting.com family owned and operated proudly serving shelby in the surrounding area for the finest in heating and cooling for your home or business we're talking about shelby heating and air and right now they have an exclusive spring special
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he legion stuff and everything today and tomorrow and you know the playoffs have started up so let's go over today's broadcast schedule this weekend's broadcast schedule for everybody uh tuning in at home if you're watching on saturday morning sports talk you can watch every saturday on youtube watch the replays if you're listening already go back and re watch the replay on youtube you can watch the show we got cool graphics you see our smiling faces even you even get to see the one the only joh
n prather the pill right he turned his microphone on and smiled he didn't say a word he just turned his microphone on and smiled why when they all know i'm a player yeah i can't no all right i just i just want to say that i did listen to i was i was on my way to gosh where i was on my way to hendersonville last sunday and i did listen to the end of the race and it's just really great to listen to if you've never listened to a race they really do great coverage oh yeah all the syndicated coverage
we have here on ktc and i thought uh who the boy that wanted never won or had it had one this year and chase elliot was behind him and chase could just couldn't catch him i mean you know it just i was like chase is going to run him down it's like nope last four or five laps he just couldn't run him down pull it away ray pulled away so i made it first time tyler ready yeah tyler that's who it was not fixed at all he's the one that they can wreck call bush in a few races not fixed at all time the
guy who's already in the playoffs and winning couldn't quite catch yeah but they're both good the best rotation race driver in the world not fixed at all but now if you go back and listen to when i talk about drivers who drive road courses tolerating's always somebody i'll bring up because he's good he's good though he had a better car you know we just know i'm just saying we know from the from the when as soon as jimmy johnson retired the only thing the announcers have talked about the last th
ree years is we're gonna have a new renter every week how do they know that and you know who that eliminated right now kevin harvick is out maybe right now unless he wins the race martin truex i mean he's on the bubble right there in that last three you know so you talking about drivers i mean denny hamlin's in and he's number 20. if you just go by points he is number 20. but he's one but he's in so right there's the difference you got eight races left the only three winners that can happen and
it can happen folks because you still got talladega and you got daytona still to go those two races so i mean it could happen you could have 16 winners and some big name could be left out what happens if you have 17 winners uh then you're going to go by points okay of them um atlanta this weekend 101 storylines last race was good at atlanta i liked it uh it was repaved right yep repaved earlier this season uh cup series team participated in a 50-minute practice session before this is a good race
before the first race they got to practice uh they were on participate in a two-round single lap qualifying in this one um atlanta motor speedway has hosted 116 cup races uh they've held two races from 1960 to 2010. this season's renovations marked the track's first repave since 97 and also tightened the corner width from 55 to 40 feet that's that's quite a bit that's good grief that's uh 25 30 almost increased in banking from 24 to 28 degrees let's show that redoing that the last 15 atlanta ra
ces were won by five different organizations so a little bit of everybody wins in atlanta larson uh has led 14 419 laps in atlanta uh goodyear tires blah blah blah i don't really care about that atlanta storylines with the regular season championship up for grabs 15 playoff points on the line the top three drivers are separated by just 35 points in the standing kyle larson is on a 16 race winless streak the longest of his tenure at hendrix uh the pass for the win came in the final 10 laps in 12
of the 18 races in 2022 including the spring race in atlanta 20 different drivers led a lap in the march 20 rate 2022 race the most ever terry is this one that got turned into basically a restrictor plate where they were drafting is this the one that did that i don't remember the first one but i know the first race i mean atlanta's always had good races coming down to the end where just neck and neck for the win but this first race they had in atlanta it was like at daytona everybody was up at t
hat front that's why i said anybody because this is the race that did that now i'm not going to say for sure there was one race remember they switched up and did something to the track and everything else but i know with the new cars brought them all together but uh it was a great race the first one i watched um i'll tell you something interesting i watched the other day um do you know anything about the ernie irvin car that sounded fun or the sterling marlin car that sounded really louder than
everybody else no do you know that story uh kind of just touch on a little bit um when he was driving the yellow four car um they had some guy call them and tell him that he could get extra horsepower for them and again i'm not an expert on this but basically he went under the car and they changed the muffler like a three or four-way muffler or something like that they did something with the pipes underneath and split it up and when marlin qualified in uh daytona everyone thought he was driving
an indy car because of the sound it was making people he said people they said that was a little documenting it people were coming up to the fence the drivers who had just run trying to figure out what was going on on the track they thought they'd put an indy car out there because it's making a totally different sound it was so much louder than everybody else so that was uh i don't know if you heard about that but i thought that was interesting the way how the the the new cars in the old cars ne
ver show them they picked it up and what they did they it was talked about they were the first people that painted everything on the car inside and on everything the time they had they painted black so you couldn't tell you couldn't tell where they were cheating was what they the idea was um and they had to use a specific type of black because it wouldn't get too hot in there and then one of the drivers couldn't take it at all i think it was bobby labonte and they had to make it gray and the cre
w cheat the truth driver their interview and he said i told bobby when we did that it's much harder to hide things in gray than just black but he complained so much we had to do it but they they flipped the car they were showing the pipes and everything how how it made much louder how you could do different adjustments and things it's pretty interesting listen to the cause when he talked about he'd give these psy these sly smiles like you know yeah we do yeah we did that we did like stuff he was
n't supposed to be doing it if he ain't cheating right you get him you can get him to admit to but that was a very interesting little documentary uh on that i just talking about the cars and new cars and everything is i i don't know what they can do or any extra the crew chiefs don't seem like they can do too much with this right right terry cause they made they custom made the tailpipes out the side of the car like that wasn't like you don't buy like now you have to buy get everything right fro
m the previous manufacturing that's what they're complaining about and they were sitting there showing them well they they made these themselves if you don't think crew chiefs are still messing with they are you know that right yeah so this week slight little adjustment this weekend uh starting today at two o'clock we'll have the game one in progress uh between the gaston braves and the cleveland we haven't come up with a nickname for them yet um tom um where were they where were you guys at in
that game again uh we were bottom three runners on first and second no outs two one count on the batter so there you go folks we'll pick that game up at two o'clock today matt royster and robbie roop will have the rest of that game for the third third in and on uh after that game the braves come on at four so we've got bro we got baseball all day starting to brave come on at four against the washington nationals at 4 15 uh the toyota save mart 350 is on xfinity racing on wcsl and then tonight we
got more legion baseball and probably more rain delays because it rains every night at seven o'clock cheerful at matthews game two uh in matthew's night and then cleveland county gaston gaston will stay over and show me today uh for the follow-up game 6 45 7 o'clock current start unless they change something like they could announce and they're gonna start at six or something tom you never know what that i know but we're gonna go with seven so are you guys playing for seven for gaston in clevel
and game twos tonight on ktc seventy percent chance of rain tonight seventy percent and that's uh tom and who no braves today tonight uh tom and uh robbie robbie um so you know like when i go when i go to florida i know it's gonna rain every day from noon to two two o'clock in north carolina and terry they do this on the on the memorial day race they know it's gonna rain in the summer from six to eight o'clock why do we not schedule things a little bit earlier today's a saturday game they could
be playing this game at five o'clock same thing with the races and everything because if you get any delay it ruins the night and you're planning to play in the day they played yesterday afternoon they got the game in right well i guess i mean the heat of the day come on you're trying to get it where the heat's not as bad on everybody out there i'd like to play baseball nobody played baseball last night tom didn't get anybody spawning yeah i mean every now and then it's going to happen i'd rathe
r i'm playing be hot who cares i don't care about your hot dogs as a player though i'm doing something during the day anyway i'm swimming i'm golfing i don't care coach might not know about it but again i'm doing something all day anyway so once i get to seven o'clock and then i get a rain now i'm just like this is a wasted day i waited all day for this i wanted to play they didn't look i hate i just hate those i hate to say we light rainouts all right uh do do chairville and cleveland county wo
uld play each other if they do advance folks um nascar racing in atlanta qualifying is that right now just started uh or no that's exciting qualifying so qualifiers later on let me get you the schedule how about that wouldn't that be easier tv schedule for atlanta this week how about saturday one o'clock austin dylan's life in the fast lane is aaron terry you can watch that i have watched a little bit of the dirty camping truck world series it's different uh 4 30 experience series 5 o'clock uh t
he end of the end of that 7 30 expenditure series post ratio uh sunday sunday sunday 10 a.m camping truck world series uh was that re-air yes uh arca monarch series at 1 pm 2 o'clock count down to green 3 o'clock uh quaker state 400 in atlanta of course you can listen on ktcbroadcasting.com tomorrow sunday we will also have uh braves at 1 30. i guess that's okay on whs uh quaker state 400 at 2 o'clock and then more american legion baseball tomorrow evening guys got any news and notes or anything
else from this week's uh world of sports golf tennis well i was wanting to see fritz beat rod uh uh not all but i didn't pull it out i think he pointed it all pulled it out in five sets and then he was tennis players start getting beat by no name they all withdrawal so yeah i can't think of them tennis players don't take ails they do not take losses they will quit in a heartbeat yeah they will they would quit give up it's ridiculous but i mean jp he's a tennis player he likes tennis jp does wel
l i like tennis i don't play it by like djokovic he's still there you don't like him do you jp who djokovic oh dork of it's no dorkovitch well the nhl is called dorchester [Laughter] and insulting players in said sports such a great word dork this is so great it's just wait real quick let's go to jp with all of his uh logos here calling one of the best athletes on the planet a dork [Laughter] my dad used to call me that he used to make me so mad jp i love you [Laughter] you ready to take away jp
tell them what you're doing this weekend uh well i'm going to see thor 11 thunder today so i still didn't usually dress what is that thor you don't want to know yeah you know 411 thunder yes for love and thunder loving the norse god of thunder where is that at jp asgard [Laughter] [Music] by definition a dork is a contemptible socially inept there we go there we go alrighty i would say the person who looks up the definition of dork contempt whatever he just said personally yeah socially yeah co
ntentable socially inept person terry that's the person who looks up dork we're going away we're going to watch the minions today [Music] like me you

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