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This Phone is $169 - What's the Catch?

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Marques Brownlee

1 year ago

(Intro sounds) - This brand new smartphone from 2023 has a 6 1/2-inch, 90 hertz display with a hole-punch cutout, a 5,000 milliamp-hour battery, triple cameras, a micro SD card slot for expandable storage, a headphone jack, and water resistance for 169. Nice, but what's the catch? There's gotta be a catch, right? So look, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Good phones are getting cheap, nuh, and cheap phones are getting good. And this video is gonna focus on the second part of that, whic
h is the cheap phones that are getting so good, because this phone hit my inbox recently. It's called the Moto G Play for 2023 and if you've been paying attention to what Motorola's been doing recently, they've been making a lot of really good budget phones in the background for the past couple years. I just wanted to know, personally, from using it myself, how do you end up at a phone that's a 10th of the price of the ones that I've been really enjoying? So on the outside, well, it's a pretty b
ig phone, which I like, and there's actually a 6.5 inch flat 90 hertz LCD display. Now it's not the best-looking screen you've ever seen. It's only 720P, so I can literally see pixels sometimes, and it doesn't get very bright, you know, viewing angles are pretty bad if you get off axis. And of course, the bezels you can see are slightly thicker, especially in the chin. And there's this little bit of light fall off around the hole-punch camera at the top. But the thing is, can you really pixel pe
ep at this price? Like this is plenty of screen for texting, web browsing, navigation, flipping through apps, scrolling through social media, the classic stuff you wanna do on a phone. Mission accomplished, you know, it's a big screen, so that's not the catch. But what about the build? You've probably picked up that it's a pretty big phone but it's also made of plastic. But honestly, the layout is perfectly fine. Like you've got the port and the speakers at the bottom, there's a headphone jack a
t the top, and you have bonus expandable storage alongside the SIM card tray right where it belongs. And on the back, yes, that is a decently-fast fingerprint reader right in that classic Motorola dimple spot. So it's laid out well, it absolutely does not bend or creep or anything weird like that. Plus you might have heard plastic is absolutely not the end of the world when it comes to a smartphone build. Obviously the premium ones will really like to feel more premium and heavy and so glass wil
l do that. But this is often more durable than glass if you drop it. And some people like a lighter-weight phone when it is this big. Also, it is still water resistant. I can't say waterproof, it's IP52, but it's water resistant. So the build, that's not the catch. So, okay, what about the battery, you might be wondering, Cheap phone, it's excellent, perfectly unironically not exaggerating, it's excellent, which actually shouldn't be a surprise given the spec. It's a 5,000 milliamp-hour battery
powering a phone with a 720p display. So you're good for a day and a half easy, two light days is no problem with seven hours of screen on time. Now it's only up to 10 watt charging, which is pretty slow and there is no wireless charging, but I'm not gonna consider that a gotcha at this price. Again, it's like you can just charge it up overnight every night like a normal person and battery life will be fine. And even the software is really good. It's virtually the same experience as their $1000
flagship Edge phone, which is to say, near stock Android with a little Moto extra features sprinkled on top. So at its most basic, it'll kind of feel like a Pixel when you dig through like quick settings and notifications and the launcher, but then you get some Motorola widgets tucked in, you know, you get a couple extra settings in the settings app, but then you get this Moto app that lets you dig into your extra gestures and features that they've perfected over the years. The double chop for t
he flashlight, the three finger screenshot, you know, the peek display feature that gives you a peek at your new notifications and even swiping down on your notification panel from the fingerprint reader on the back. Basically, everything minus the double twist to quickly open the camera, probably because the camera is not one of those things that you really look forward to on these super cheap phones. Oh wow, look at the light fall off, you can see it on camera, but either way, I'm happy to rep
ort that this camera is functional, which is like, that's what you would hope for at this price, which is, yeah, it's functional. I'm just not a huge fan of the triple camera layout here. Like I know they're trying to look premium and triple cameras looks premium, but the top one is a two-megapixel macro camera and the bottom one is a two-megapixel depth camera for portrait mode. So I'm mainly just looking for this main 16-megapixel camera to be able to capture scenes, documents, you know, take
photos and videos without problems. And it does, especially if you give it enough light. It's not gonna win any comparison tests, that's for sure. But hey, we ask a lot of our phones, like the fact that this $169 gadget can already make phone calls and send text messages and navigate you around the world and also play games and also browse the web and it can also take decent pictures and 1080p videos and that's solid. I initially had my suspicions about whether or not it was going to actually us
e this depth camera when I take a portrait-mode photo, but it did yell at me when I covered it and tried to take a portrait-mode shot, so it's paying attention to it, at least. But when I took the photo and turned up the background blur, this is the cutout shape which, if you zoom in just a little bit, is truly bizarre. It's really bad. I've never seen anything this bad in my life. (chuckles) They really just said, "Yeah, we'll just save a little processing power here and use the zigzag cutout m
ethod from those scissors from preschool to make this work." But see, that's the thing. That is the catch. It's not the build quality, that's fine, and it's definitely not the battery life, that's great. It's not the cameras and it's certainly not the software. It's that this phone is slow, really slow. So this phone has a MediaTek Helio G37 chip inside and three gigabytes of RAM. Other phones with this chip set include the Techno Spark 9, the Infinix Hot 12, and the HONOR X7a, all of which reta
il well under $150 US. So clearly it's a cheap chip, right, and that's how it ended up in this phone. For some context, the Geekbench score of the iPhone 14 is this, and the Geekbench score of the Moto G Play is this. So when I say it's trying to save processing power by not really doing detailed portrait cutouts, I actually mean that, like it absolutely lacks any meaningful processing power. And I'm not nitpicking about like maybe it's just slow on some high-end games or something. No, this pho
ne is slow all the time. It's slow to scroll and just like move around the UI. Now remember I mentioned at the beginning that this phone has a variable 90 hertz display but I'll be honest, it would've taken me a while to tell because it is almost never anywhere near 60 hertz. It's constantly hanging up and stuttering everywhere. It's slow to unlock, it's slow to open apps, not not just huge apps, just normal apps. Even the settings apps takes an embarrassingly long time to open and even longer t
o search through things. Some of this is like speed of storage as well, to be fair. So I don't wanna put it all on the chip, but like the point here is it's absolutely the catch. This phone is slower than average to take pictures. It's slow to type stuff, to browse around, and just to do anything like high-end gaming or photo editing is kind of out of the question. It might be the slowest phone I've ever used and I'm constantly reminded of it, which can make it quite unpleasant to use. So the lo
nger I use this phone, the more it had me thinking about one big question, which is, is it better to get a brand new cheap phone like this or an older, formerly expensive flagship one. Like this phone, this is 169 brand new, right? This phone here, this is the OnePlus 7 Pro, you might remember it. It's one of my favorite phones ever. This was the phone of the year in 2019. So this was 669 back when it came out, but it can be had easily for well under $200 right now secondhand. So this is just on
e example of a phone like this. This phone, if you compare dollar for dollar with the Moto is just so much better of an experience across the board, obviously it'll have a much better chip set. So the Snapdragon 855 is a few years old, but it's much more capable and part of an overall smoother, better performance profile with faster storage and more RAM. It has a much, much nicer OLED screen, which is sharper, brighter, and actually hits the 90 hertz refresh rate all the time. It has way more bu
ilt-in storage, although it's not expandable, and it has a much better set of cameras. It's a primary plus an ultra wide and a zoom, and it's built from glass instead of plastic, which feels rock solid, and it has a 4,000 milliamp hour battery, which is probably the only hardware line you can call it a draw or maybe even a win for the Moto phone, but we can't forget that warp charging that OnePlus was famous for. So this old flagship will do 30 watts of wired charging. So it's seeming pretty una
nimous here. But one distinct advantage of the budget phone is because it's new, it will get software updates further into the future than the old phone. Now this is theoretically, of course, like Motorola does not have the best track record here, so it depends on what phone we're talking about, but the Samsung A14 5G, for example, has a pretty similar spec sheet and a similar price point, and that'll probably get more software updates than the Moto. But the idea here is even if a flagship phone
is promised three to four years of software updates, and the budget phone is only getting two, as soon as that flagship phone is more than about three years old, it doesn't have that advantage anymore. So the OnePlus 7 Pro is probably about done with software updates while we probably have a few in the tank for the Moto. It is also funny though, sometimes, how I hear people talk about software updates, like some people don't think about software updates at all, they avoid software updates. Don'
t do that, by the way; the security patches are actually pretty important. But yeah, it's just one of those points that has to, by default, go to the newer phone. But the final straw in favor of the older phone is actually the environment. Just because buying an older phone that's built to last and getting an extra 2, 3, 4 years out of it potentially is better for the environment overall. You buy less new things, it's less e-waste. So that's something that's a feather in the cap of the old phone
over the new one. So my general thought as I've looked at this landscape and all these options with old flagships versus new budget phones is the lower the price of the phone, the more I would actually want to buy the older phone. So at 169, for example, based on the experience I've had with this phone, I would definitely rather have, actually, the older flagship phone. There's a lot of flagships you can get at about 200 bucks, you could get this one, you could get a Pixel 5. Secondhand phones
are really good. Now if you go up to like 400 bucks, then it's a little more debatable. There's still some things that would still point me towards the formerly flagship phone, but then you get to like 600 bucks and it's like, oh, there's really good brand new $600 phones that I would take today and still have the advantages of the software updates. It's not a lot that's better than the Pixel 7, right now. So that's the theory. (brass fanfare blaring) So there you have it. At this price point, I
'd prefer prehistoric premium over presently pleasantly priced. Thanks for watching. Talk to you guys in the next one, peace. (brassy music continues) Pleasantly presently, that's a lot. Pleasantly, presently, pleasantly priced?

Comments

@GyanTherapy

You Should try Budget Moto G52 - 160$(India)

@garrickdizon5091

it's literally cheaper than some wireless buds out there, that's crazy

@StockyDT

I've learned based on a lot of people I've met in their 50s and older that buy budget phones. They primarily just want a phone that doesn't slow down and lag out and maybe a decent camera. Battery life is good, but since many of them don't use their phones too much or travel as much as they did, they last. I find more issues when they are start lagging out or being too slow and them becoming frustrated asking my Gen Z self to fix it

@mdzaid5925

The problem with these old flagships is to get a new battery. It’s often that you cannot get it replaced officially, or if you can then they just charge too much.

@peterhopkins3613

"At this price point, I'd prefer prehistoric premium over presently pleasantly priced" is a great closing sentence.

@ijpritho

It kinda feels good to see big tech tubers talk about budget phones! Thank you for showing some love for the sub $200 category. Much appreciated.

@mrgreatauk

Nice to see Motorola still making decent budget options. One of my favourite phones was the G5 plus - just did basically everything I needed it to while not blowing my budget, and the gestures like shaking for torch etc were actually super useful and I have missed them since I sold it, even if my phones since have had upgrades like better cameras and a compass. Unlike this phone the g5+ was generally a good user experience though, don't remember any slowdown.

@AmericoVespucioo

I never understood why manufacturers decided to go with metal frames but glass back panels, making phones weigh around 200 grams, just for the sake of a more "premium look and feel" when most people will have the phone covered for protection, adding a few miligramos more and hiding the design of the phone. Plastic phones were never a problem in my mind.

@Turnupturtle488

It's nice to see tech reviewers reviewing the cheap phones instead of the more expensive ones all the time 😊

@diogoalmeidavisuals

I remember when $550 was the price of a flagship!

@OwenDavies83

I have a S23 Ultra but there is a lot to be said for phones made of polycarbonate. They are so much lighter that even if you drop them them they hit the ground with far less force lowering the risk of damage. One of the things I liked about the Galaxy S2 was that it was so light it felt futuristic.

@Vlad2319

As a person who loves cheaper phones with decent workhorse power Motorola has been putting it out. I have a Stylo 5G and standard Stylo, both have headphone jacks, lovely large screens and battery. The camera can leave you wanting if you are after photographer quality, but it's definitely functional for pulling out to capture some random family event. Gaming is pretty good, on the 5G I can play Xbox games from game pass (haven't tried on the regular Stylo) with little sacrifice.

@A7ZATRU

The OnePlus 7 Pro was ahead of its time and still my favourite ever phone. It's a real shame the market and companies didn't keep the popup camera going.

@xdka826

Not to mention, the new phone will also have a brand new battery so that will last longer. If you buy the old phone, you will probably need to get a replacement battery for it pretty soon. That’s definitely something to take into account.

@user-os9zo3ln9q

You actually sold me with that camera bit . It's very unique and reminded me of an experience lost on a previous phone . Thank you

@justinward7331

I love this phone. I got mine last week. And considering the cheap price I paid $120. I'm impressed with how quick it is and how long the battery lasts.

@Pillepup

OnePlus 7 Pro was such an amazing phone! Always loved that uninterrupted screen with the pop-up camera. Don't know why it hasn't become more mainstream.

@michaeltvermoes6859

So glad you recognized the environmental advantage of buying used - I feel like that is often neglected by most tech-channels 🙌

@remiwi2399

I have a Moto G Power from years ago for <$200 and it still works on par with the iPhones all my friends have. It's basically indestructible, especially with a good case, so far have never needed to repair it, and brand new it had a 2-day battery life (after 2.5 years it went down by a lot, but I got the battery replaced recently for $50 and it's back to 1-1.5 days of normal use). This thing is probably going to last me another few years just fine.

@daves1646

Simply excellent perspective Marques!! Thank you for getting that most important decision in there at the end!!!! I’ll keep looking for the 2021-2022 mid-upper level phone. Which manufacturers in Android space have longer s/w upgrade support?? The key piece right with cost. Thanks again!