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Тиньков – болезнь и война / Tinkov – disease and war

Заботимся о близких даже на расстоянии: https://flowwow.com/s/VDUD Промокод VDUD на скидку 10% до конца июля ДАННОЕ СООБЩЕНИЕ (МАТЕРИАЛ) СОЗДАНО И (ИЛИ) РАСПРОСТРАНЕНО ИНОСТРАННЫМ СРЕДСТВОМ МАССОВОЙ ИНФОРМАЦИИ, ВЫПОЛНЯЮЩИМ ФУНКЦИИ ИНОСТРАННОГО АГЕНТА, И (ИЛИ) РОССИЙСКИМ ЮРИДИЧЕСКИМ ЛИЦОМ, ВЫПОЛНЯЮЩИМ ФУНКЦИИ ИНОСТРАННОГО АГЕНТА Авиасейлс – сервис для покупки хоть каких-нибудь авиабилетов https://i.avs.io/mte0zb Олег Тиньков https://www.instagram.com/olegtinkov/ Прошлое интервью Тинькова во вДуде https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yzZcAj24AI& Проект Наивно? Очень https://naivno.com/ 0:00 Вперед! 0:52 Тиньков предлагал сделать Путина императором. Зачем? 8:50 Мы – в Андорре 11:36 Почему до войны Тиньков почти не критиковал власть? 13:00 Тиньков виноват в том, что Путин потерял берега? 20:21 «Вся Россия помазалась говном, он нас помазал» 23:25 Почему русскому народу нужен царь? 25:14 Итальянский огород 26:41 Отец Тинькова – шахтер и фанат Америки 29:44 24 февраля 31:30 «Я потерял 9 миллиардов, но правильнее – умереть с хорошей кармой» 35:59 Тиньков – под санкциями. Что это значит? 39:37 Тиньков против войны, чтобы избежать санкций? 41:19 Последствия болезни 42:36 Что Западу делать с Путиным? 45:56 Экономический ликбез 47:59 Зачем Тиньков продал «Тинькофф банк» 52:21 Цена «Тинькофф банка» 56:26 Почему Тиньков не продал банк «Яндексу»? 59:03 Потерять 2 млрд долларов 1:03:32 «Яндекс» – это… 1:06:07 Сколько у Тинькова осталось денег? 1:09:38 Почему другие миллиардеры не выступают против войны? 1:13:27 Быть против войны, но дружить с Песковым – это норм? 1:17:55 Песков – соучастник убийств в Украине? 1:25:05 Сколько стоит лечить рак в Германии? 1:27:15 Секс во время химеотерапии 1:30:37 Штраф в $530 000 000 1:35:36 Американское правосудие 1:38:36 Как лечат рак крови в России 1:41:41 «Чулпан Хаматова – ангел» 1:42:44 Зачем Тиньков грубо оскорблял работницу банка? 1:43:36 Конфликт с «Немагией» 1:49:47 «Я – великий грешник» 1:50:50 Когда ты вернешься в Россию? 1:52:50 Ты допускаешь, что никогда не вернешься в Россию? 1:53:20 В чем сила?

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[This video is created by a media that is considered a foreign agent] CIA agent. Putin is responsible for corruption. You're a Siberian guy. Why are you such a degenerate? All these Z,Z,Z,Z. Shit, I won't forgive them Kamchatka. Your anti-military stance is a way to avoid sanctions. You should first sell and then speak. They speak the same language, they are your neighbors. Why are they dying? Six years of prison. It's a sin. I got happy. You can die from cancer. You shouldn't die from a bomb. W
e're having a confession. You can't sit back and keep silent. [Opening theme] [Aviasales - my ticket selling buddies] Hi, Yura. It's been five years. Five? [June 2017] I was thinking five or six. Five years short of a month. A lot has changed. To say the least. Exclusive. I don't want to talk to anyone else. I'm tired of everyone. I don't know when this comes out, I hope that soon. I ask everyone to leave me alone. I want to close this gestalt. All these talks about the emperor. I'm fucking sick
of it. Let's start with the emperor. Okay. Five years ago you said that Putin should be crowned and become an emperor. You said it would be great. Five years later the war began you made an anti-war statement. You were first sanctioned and then removed from the list. People keep reminding you about that interview. I think...I think, this is my point. It's the commutative property of addition. We will get the same result. The newcomers are gonna fuck us up even more. I support Putin and he may r
un for 33 more terms until he dies. Moreover, he should become an emperor. Democracy is never going to work in this country. I am convinced in it. I think we should crown Putin, make him a tsar... And let him reign in Saint Petersburg. Thank god the Winter Palace is still there. Waiting for him? Yes. And then his daughter will become an emperor and so on. I'm totally for anointing a tsar. I would have sworn to him and kneeled. He would be an emperor and we would elect the Government. I watched a
show yesterday. I guess, the host's name was Michael Nacke. He's a liberal journalist, by the way. I told him he was no different from Kiselev by shaming me. He said 'Tinkov licked Putin's boots. He cried that Putin should become an emperor everywhere' Fuck. I looked at my watch and thought 'Yura's gonna come in five hours and I will talk to him'. In my second anti-war publication... The first one was posted on February 26... [February 28, 2022] I don't know why nobody noticed it. But they noti
ced my publication on April 19. And 70% of the liberals keep bringing up the emperor quote. Let me try to explain. Some may take this as an excuse but I'm trying to explain. I know that you like showing the quotes. It's about to appear now. Five minutes before... Or five minutes after the quote...I said: Putin is responsible for all the corruption in Russia. It's hard for me to put him in one basket. As in every person there is good and bad in him. I definitely have a lot of positive feelings an
d respect towards him... But at the same time I hate him for many other things. What things? Call two at least. I think that he is responsible for all the corruption in the country. This is obvious. Nobody noticed it. They only remember the tsar quote. Let me explain, gentlemen. Five years ago saying that Putin was responsible for corruption while having 5 or 6 billion... And having fifty thousand employees working for you... This was not just brave. This was brave as fuck. Nobody as rich as me
could say such a thing. I said this. Putin is responsible for corruption. I said this but it wasn't enough. We love putting labels. An emperor! This is what I meant: first of all, this was a sarcasm. I remember what I said. I said let it be Putin. I believe that monarchy would work in Russia. Especially after I read the comments section. I know what the people think. They need a tsar. And please note that three years after my statement Putin changed the constitution and in fact became a tsar.
Back then...One last thing. People called me and said... 'Oleg, are you crazy? Tsar, really?' Including our bank's managers. They said I was screwing them. Putin was faking a democracy with all those Prokhorov and Sobchak. He was faking a democracy and Tinkov said let's make him a tsar. This was an anti-Putin statement! If you think about it. This is indeed an anti-Putin statement. The dude had been fooling you with the elections. And then one of his 'confidants', as they called me. I've never m
et him though. I don't need him. I've never met him. I was the owner of Tinkov restaurant when he came. I said hello and he said hello. That was it. I saw him. That's it. It was in 1999. I've never been to Kremlin. I don't know anything. I haven't been to a single meeting. I've seen him at the St.Petersburg economic forum. He was somewhere on stage. Making such a statement was super cool. And one more thing...I know you want to say something. I've had a model in my head. I didn't care if it was
Putin, Ivanov or Sidorov. Bortnikov or Patrushev. Instead of murdering Russia with 'elections'... These people can't choose. You saw that in the nineties. Their either elect a criminal, who build a road for them or gave them a bottle of vodka... Like that governor....of the Buddhist region. Kalmykia. Yes, Kalmykia. The president of FIDE. Kirsan Ilymzhinov. Kirsan Ilymzhinov. He gave everyone a dollar and become the governor of Kalmykia. Democracy does not work here. What do you expect? I said -
we have the Winter Palace. Like the Buckingham palace. Let him sit there. His daughters will follow. We will religiously anoint him for ruling. We had the Ruriks, then the Romanovs, and now we'll have the Putins. They will live there. And go one after another. Oil, gas, golden - everything belongs to them by default. And then there's another layer of economically developed state. Gref as the prime-minister, Kudrin as the finance minister. Nabiullina as the head of the Central Bank. I think they
are all good, by the way. They are good guys. And we will build a great economy. Like in England. There's a tsar and the people love him. And there's strong economy. We won't have poverty like we do now. And we won't have a hole instead of a toilet like, correct me if I'm wrong, 30% of households have. [According to 'Novaya Gazeta', about 30 million Russians have unheated toilet rooms] I grew up with such a toilet. I saw a toilet for the first time in the army. When I was a border guard. I said
'Fuck! How do you flush?' I'd never seen a toilet before. Can we have an effective Government and get rid of the wooden toilets? The tsar can stay. I hope I explained. First of all, I want to mention that we've been in touch these five years. We talk like friends now. We're not friends but... We're not friends but we chat informally. I'm not being cocky. [Ads - may be helpful even if you're not in Russia] We're in Andorra. One of the most unusual tourist attractions - Salvador Dali's 'Nobility o
f Time' statue - is right behind my back. Clock like this first appeared on his 1931 painting 'The Persistence of Memory'. Later the artist used this clock in his other works. In 1977, he made a statue of the clock. The template was used to create multiple statues which are located all over the world now. This statue was constructed in Andorra-la-Vella only twelve years ago. This was a present from Enric Sabater. Sabater has been Dali's manager for thirteen years and earned a controversial repu
tation and lots of money. Which he moved to the tax haven of Andorra. To thank his new home, Sabater made this present to the city. We decided to talk about the presents because this video is sponsored by a gifts marketplace Flowwow. In the last couple of weeks we started caring about our relatives more, even if we were far from them. Flowwow is a great service for caring. You can choose between thousands local shops from 950 cities around the world. There are many categories: flowers, cakes, to
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o good. It's fast. Some of the shops ship in fifteen minutes. And tips for the delivery guy. Proceed. Use the link from the description below to download Flowwow app. Enter promo-code Vdud for a 10 percent discount. Bring joy to your relatives even if you're far away. [Back to Italy] I really hope you don't cut it. I'm not a politician. I've never been one. I'm not interested in politics. Today my heart aches and I act. I state what I feel about the situation. I'm not a politician. And I didn't
have to say that Putin was an asshole. This is not my job. I had my business and I worked on it. But on some of the interviews with you or Sobchak I said many brave things. What else do you want from me? Should I hold a banner at the Kremlin? Do you want exclusive? My driver Sergey Mitkov is the witness. He drove me to Pushkinskaya square in 2012. I stood there. I spent three hours protesting until I froze my feet. I guess, it was in March. [On March 4, 2012 Putin has won presidential elections
again. On March 5 several hundred people were arrested on Pushkinskaya square following the protest for the fair elections] I had thin-soled shoes. I came back to the car and told my driver my feet were frozen. There were Boris Nemtsov, Navalny, and many others. They were chanting 'Putin is a thief' and so on. And I was also there chanting this stuff. I was there. What else do you want from me? What do you want? Fuck. They took my bank away from me. Did you want it back then? What do you want? W
e'll talk about the bank later. Listen, Oleg. Here's what's wrong. Tell me what's wrong. In 2017 you said that Putin had to become an emperor. I didn't say Putin! Putin now, and then someone else. It does not matter. In 2020 he did everything as you wanted. You'll say it was his decision. Do you think I suggested it? Don't you think that being drunk with power and feeling unstoppable and starting a war with your neighbor... A horrible war which is bad for both sides... This happened because peop
le like you said let's make him an emperor? I completely disagree. Explain I completely disagree. He considered himself an emperor for a long time. If you watched Gordon's interview with his friend Pugachev... He told how people kissed Putin's hands in the church. And Putin said that these people need a tsar. I would not believe everything Pugachev says. Okay, we don't know this for sure. First of all, I am not so influential... To be fair, I don't think Putin knows that I exist. Most probably.
He may have heard about Tinkov. But it doesn't work this way. They're in the outer space. I don't think he's interested in Tinkov. And my statement that he should become a tsar...That Russia needs one... We can crown him today. I just want to take the power away from him. This statement could not influence anyone. This is such a bullshit. Why bullshit? He hasn't had an opponent for ages. Even by the rich guys. I don't know him. I can't criticize him. Let his friends do it. I don't even know the
guys who know him. What do you mean? Putin watched our interview and became a tsar? I don't know him, too. But I can oppose him as a Russian citizen having resources that I have. I pay taxes that Putin lives on. Your taxes are a thousand or a million times higher than mine. You don't only have the right to oppose him. You have to do it. Yura, read my LiveJournal from 2006-2009. [Tinkov's LiveJournal after 2012 Pushkinskaya square protests: I am free, and you cannot buy freedom. I am free because
my dad, Yuri Tinkov, Worked in a mine for forty years, and was free. He taught me to hate propaganda and regimes. If he was alive, he would be proud of me, like my three kids. I'm sick of the bullshit on TV and In the state companies. I'm sick of corruption everywhere. This is kleptocracy. We are a great country! If we had a professional president, we would reach not only Portugal. We would reach Germany's GDP with such oil prices in three years. This is my civilian position. I will never perf
orm from a platform. And I will never sponsor any parties. I'm not a redneck. I am a free man!] Read my publication from 2012. Then I became too old for it. Like they say... You have not heart if you're young and don't want a revolution. And you have no brains if you're old and still want a revolution. Before 2012 I opposed him. And later in the interviews I bullied him. I said he was responsible for the corruption. I meant that in all of my interviews. And smart people understood it. That's wh
y they never called me and asked to support anyone. Though I was popular. But I was never invited to any political parties. They knew I was unreliable. A sore thumb. Studied in San-Francisco for six years. Lived in Berkeley. This guy is probably a CIA agent. I guess this is what they thought. I'm just a businessman. Can I brag? I've created the best bank in Russia. The best bank. It's considered the best fin-tech in the world. You can call Italian, French, American bankers and ask them. They'll
say Tinkoff. I've been doing my job. And I wanted to do it well. And thousands of my employees with average age of 23... Worked.. and still work in a great environment, they are respected... They created an amazing product. This is how we changed Russia and we knew it. I did everything I could. You can say whatever you want. If I had a time machine I would not change anything. It's not what I mean. This would not change anything. Just imagine... How can you make claims against me? This is heres
y. I did something and you say it wasn't enough. Galitsky has never said anything! He's your hero! He's never said a fucking word against Putin! And he's silent now! He's your hero. Why is he silent then? He hasn't said a word. Fuck! It's enough. Everyone licks his ass. Sergey! Built a park, started a business, paid no bribes. But what did Sergey say? Where did he say it? I said. I said a lot of things. Don't make these claims against me. I don't take it. And now Putin is a tsar because of me. F
ucking great! Imagine that interview without the emperor quote. No one would blame you. I made a mistake. I believe that we need a tsar and monarchy would work as it had worked for many years. As far as I remember, we had monarchy for twelve centuries. It depends how you count. All these Ruriks and so on. I made a mistake. Can I make a single mistake? Can you forgive me? I made a mistake. I ask everyone to forgive me. I still insist it was a great sarcasm. And there was logic in my statement.
You can dream of democracy. Of fair elections. I dream with you. I dream with you, with Chichvarkin, who else. Let's dream. And we can be realists. Democracy is very unrealistic. There will be no free elections in Russia. We're going to talk about it. Do you admit you made a mistake? I'm fine with that. I have another example... I didn't say what I meant. It's all about the context. I wanted to bring up... Yura, I made a mistake. I can tell you about mine. The sponsor of that interview was 'Tran
sformator' YouTube channel. I don't know him This guy turned out to be... Was this your sponsor? Yes, it was the sponsor of the video. I don't know him. I want to tell you that I made a mistake. I made a mistake. You made a mistake. Do you forgive me? Who am I to forgive you? I tried to explain. You can forgive me. You said you were not interested in politics for the last few years. Don't you think that avoiding politics is one of the reasons there is war now? Probably, yes. I don't want to bla
me anyone. Someone avoids politics intentionally. I'm just not interested. I'm not interested in opera, for example. I don't get it and it's not interesting for me. I'm not interested in politics. When I talk to these people... I think they are all dumb, very primitive. In Russia, at least. They are all lackeys. They care about greatness. This is bullshit. I don't want to talk to them. I love talking to you and some other guys doing business while drinking wine. But these guys are unbearable for
me. I don't understand politics. If I did, I would speak more correctly. I guess, Zhenya Chichvarkin is interested in politics. Thank god. I don't care. I said I was never coming back to Russia and my French friend told me... 'Oleg, hold on. You will come back as a hero.' I don't want this. Please don't offer me this. I won't be a prime-minister, or a head of Central bank. This are non-political positions, by the way. I don't want to be a president. I don't understand anything. And this is not
interesting for me. I can't speak for the others. Overall, you are right. But it's not called politics. This is called civil society. I think I have been a member of civil society. Overall, you are right. But it's not called politics. This is called civil society. I think I have been a member of civil society. I think I have. Talk to my employees. Ask what I told them. When I was in the hospital there were protests to support Navalny. I think I have. Talk to my employees. Ask what I told them. W
hen I was in the hospital there were protests to support Navalny. And our HR employee texted me that 54 of our guys were arrested. I said 'Great!'. Who else can react this way? Fuck, 54 of my guys were arrested for protesting! This is so cool! Did you write this? I wrote an internal email. Our HR department was panicking. I told them it was cool to have these guys working for us. You know, I did what I could. I'm not a politician. I'll never promote anyone. This is why I'm talking to you and not
to Venediktov. It is not interesting for me. I respect what they're doing but I don't understand. I don't understand political process. I would look foolish if I was there. I can talk business. I can talk economics. I can talk about human values. But politics...Are we guilty? Of course, we all are. We are all guilty in this fucking hell. The whole Russia has coated itself with shit. We are all to blame because of him. You said these people don't need elections, they need a tsar. Sounds quite di
smissive. In my publication I wrote that 90% of the people were against the war. And I firmly believed it. I haven't been to Russia for three years. I have been ill and I still am. I felt this way. I talked to people on the phone, in What'sApp or email. But when I saw the 'Z' comments I was shocked. I was shocked. They really want this war. Most of them. This can't be bots. I called my cousins. I called my mom in Siberia. She's 85. When she started telling me about the Nazis... What did she say?
I asked her how was her health. She said her legs hurt. I said let's talk about your legs. But she kept telling me about the Nazis and the nuclear labs. I said I would call her later. This is our people. Is this dismissive? This is us. Can you see what is happening to mass consciousness? This is sad. Really sad. These people read Dostoevsky. I've read all of his books when I was ill. These people read the books on humanism. And then they steal the washing machines. Or even worse - they murder c
ivilians. These are my compatriots, you know. I don't get it. You have a vegetable garden. This is our family hobby. They planted everything while I was in the hospital. It wasn't here three years ago. It has almost nothing to do with me. I won't brag. This looks like an old man's hobby. It is. I am retired now. I need to survive. I have other priorities now. According to the latest examination, I have a 50% chance to survive in the following year. I started off with 10% and now it's 50%. They
usually count a chance to survive five years of blood cancer. July 9 will mark two years since the transplantation. And it is considered to be very successful period. If you're still alive after five years - you survive. I'm still somewhere in between. So I'm fine with being retired. Do you like it? Yes. My wife gets bored but I'm fine with some sports and healthy food. Can I taste it? Sure. I haven't done this for a long time. I'll pick one. I'll take one, too. I can't promise it's good. It's t
he first one. My wife said it's gonna grow big. I don't know... I hope so. I want to tell you one more thing...You asked me why I was... Someone asked me this on Instagram, he said 'Why are you such a degenerate? You're a Siberian guy. Why are you such a degenerate? You used to be a miner.' It is not widely known but I used to work in a mine for a year. My dad worked in the Kirov's mine for forty years. Or thirty five at least. My grandfather Timofey Tinkov constructed the mine in the forties.
He worked there during WW2. It's the biggest coking mine in Russia. It's called Kirov's mine in Leninsk-Kuznetsky. So my dad was a miner. And he still understood this. We were watching the 25-th Party Congress on a monochrome TV... He saw Brezhnev and unplugged the TV. A miner from Leninsk-Kuznetsky did this. He said 'Bullshit. Stop watching this bullshit. Soviet Union is shit. America is a great country'. Can you fucking imagine that? This is how I became a nonconformist. When I grew up and mo
ved to California, where I became a father and so on... I brought my dad to California. It was not long before he passed away at the age of 63. I brought him to San-Fransisco and said 'Dad, this is America! The one you said was great'. He had a jacket. It was definitely fake. But it had a 'Made in USA' label. My dad was proud of it. He said 'an American jacket!'. This is Russian people. A miner from Leninsk-Kuznetsky taught me this. I am thankful to my dad. I read about Chatsky. I quoted him whe
n I said goodbye to Russia. 'My carriage! Bring my carriage round!' Classic. Where did he hear about America? This is interesting. The dude was born in Siberia in 1937, Worked at the mine and hated USSR. He said that America was cool. Can you imagine? There is something special about our nation. This story ruins your argument that Russians don't need a democracy. If a miner from Leninsk-Kuznetsky knows that USSR is shit... I don't agree with him on America. I agree with him on USSR. Everything
is possible. We can explain anyone without being propagandistic that A totalitarian regime is always worse than democracy, even not ideal. Generally, yes. I don't know how it happens. Someone gets it and someone doesn't. Where were you and what were you doing on February 24? I guess I was here already. My son had his birthday on February 23. We celebrated it. To be honest, I didn't understand anything that day. I thought it was something about DPR and LPR. I didn't get how bad it was. I thought
it was something...I didn't get it. I was also busy that day. I went riding a bike for the first time in three years. It was an emotional day for me. I went riding in the morning. I've heard the news when I came back. Someone was shooting again. I could not believe this. I thought it was impossible. I argued with everyone. I was offered 725 million dollars for 5% of my shares a month before. When? In January? Yes, In January. I rejected the offer and said the company would cost 100 billion soon.
Someone told me there were tanks near Ukraine. I said 'Are you kidding? Tanks near Ukraine?' War is impossible because this is absurd. I ended up getting pennies. I could not believe it. It took me and my wife 24 hours or even 48... I made a publication on February 26... [February 28] ...Saying we were shocked. I said no to war first among all the entrepreneurs. I was first to call it a war. No one called it a war. I did. Check out my Instagram. I said this is a war. What else do you want? I
had all of my assets there. It took me 48 hours to realize what was happening. I could not believe it. And I hardly believe it still. What did you think? Did you think what it meant to you? This is what I thought...I apologize for being pretentious... In the last 2.5 years I've spent more than a year in a hospital box. I had immunodeficiency. I had four chemotherapy courses. All people who had cancer can relate. You have zero lymphocytes, zero neutrophils, zero everything. I can't go outside. We
all dealt with it during the pandemic. I've had the mask on all the time. My wife came to visit me wearing sterile clothes, and my kids did, too. My family has been very kind to me. I wish them all to be healthy. Thank you for saving me. I would not have survived without them. I was resuscitated with adrenalin shot twice. I had 80/60 or 60/80 blood pressure. I can't remember but it was something like this. I've had sepsis twice. Then I had bone marrow transplantation. And so on. I grew my hair
because I had been bold for two years. Or 1.5 years. I was so sick of being bold that I grew my hair. I've seen so many deaths... Onco-hematologic department is the one where there are deaths all the time. These are blood cancers. Mortality rate is above 50%. 50, 60, 70, 80, 90. It depends on your age. I had about 40% chance to survive. This is where I still am. When you see dead people all the time... And you're dying too... You pray to God to survive. My family made me a collage with their pi
ctures and wrote.. 'Oleg, get well, we're waiting for you at home! Daddy, we are waiting for you!' You can see it in the background on my Instagram. I looked at those pictures and thought that I want to see my grandchildren. I wanted to survive. And then you see kids, women, people dying for nothing. They are being murdered. Someone, Russian army I mean, is killing them for nothing. They speak the same language, they are your neighbors... The Chechen war felt different. They wanted to separate,
they had another religion, they were blowing up our subway. The war was justified in some ways. But was is happening now? Why are these people dying? I could not remain silent. I've seen many deaths. You can die from cancer. Why should you die from a bomb? Just because you live in Ukraine? This is fucked up. How can this happen in the 21 century? I don't need billions. I don't want anything. I don't want to see this. And I want to speak about it. This is my position. I have some money and I ca
nnot judge Russians for being scared. They have nowhere to go. They don't have a house in Italy or somewhere else. They don't have a job. I don't judge them. I've lost 9 billion because... I want to die with a good karma...We all are going to die. I want to die as a decent man. I want to be remembered by my family. I don't want my kids to think that their father was a coward. Who hid his tongue in his ass. I was scared but I did it. Brut, come here. Come! Come here! Hey! Are you afraid of Dud?
You are not afraid of anyone. Turn. This is Brut. We are five years old and we weigh 80 kilos. Good boy. When were you put in the UK sanctions list? A couple of weeks later? Yes, about two weeks. Who cares. And then you were quickly removed from the list. Listen, I am still under sanctions. This is what I think happened. The UK government made a big mistake when they put me in the list. My lawyers said I would be the first person to be removed from the list. If they remove anyone. This is defin
itely a technical mistake. I think they put the whole financial sector there. My name is famous but I haven't been to Russia for three years. I've had 35% of the shares, I was not a controlling shareholder. I didn't control the bank. And they say that I was the owner of the bank who paid taxes to the regime. Meanwhile BP managers pay way more taxes than me. Don't you want to put them in the list? Or Schroder. [Gerhard Schroder - Chancellor of Germany, 1998-2005. From 2017 - director of the board
of Rosneft] The guy is a director of the board in Rosneft. You can make a long list. They definitely made a mistake. Most likely, it was a bureaucratic rush. They put me in the list without figuring out who I am. I'm sure they will figure out. Because English people are not like Russians. They are normal people. They investigate. In one, two or three years they'll remove me from the list. I don't deserve to be in the list. I've never collaborated or participated. They made a mistake. This mista
ke was in response to a terrible crime that Russia did by starting a war. They are shocked. Europe and the US can also put me in the list. When the shock is over, they will investigate. They put me in the list because I'm the big name. This is what I think. So there are no restrictions on you now? Your yacht can... Look. I've never been on my yacht yet. I was ill. It's a nice yacht. It was in Kamchatka last season and then moved to Antartica. I haven't been on the yacht yet. I hope I will. [An i
cebreaker yacht La Datcha was built in 2020 for 100 million Euro. Tinkov lends the yacht currently] I think I need to sell it because I don't have much money. It's too expensive to maintain. I'll have to sell it. The restriction is...as far as I know, the yacht can't go to England. Can it go to Italy, Spain, Montenegro? I guess so. It's still in Antarctica. In a country with no flag. All Russian oligarchs will move to Antartica now. There's no... No state. No state there. Can you use your Englis
h bank account? I don't have one. And never had. I've never lived in London. I went to London for a treatment. I spent 1.5 years in London and most of the time I was in the hospital. I don't own anything in London. I don't have any mansions there. So the asset freeze was quite ephemeral. Oh, they arrested my jet! They arrested all the Russian jets. Do you know that 800 Russian jets are arrested now? I'm under sanctions and all the other planes are arrested for no reason. What do you think about
the opinion that your anti-war statement is an attempt to avoid sanctions? I've heard this opinion. I didn't think about it, you caught me. What do I think about it? I don't think anything. People always try to find excuses. They are know-it-alls. They know everything. I don't. I don't think my views are going to change anything, as I already said. It doesn't work this way. They don't care about your statements. People think that the words can change anything. It doesn't work this way. They look
at the facts. Some of Russian businessmen were put under sanctions although they didn't say anything. They are not public figures. I'm not talking about Abramovich. There are other criteria. Like the Forbes list, probably. Moscow does not believe in tears. Nobody's going to remove sanctions after a statement. This is bullshit. I have my views. If someone thinks that I'm trying to avoid sanctions - you are free to think this way. We'll see. I don't think it's going to happen in a couple of years
. My lawyers said it doesn't work this way. Why are you using the eye drops every fifteen minutes? I have a special condition. It's called graft-versus-host disease. GvHD. After the transplantation...I hope to see donor soon. She's from Germany. You are allowed to meet the donor only two years after the transplantation. It's going to be a very emotional moment for me. She saved my life. Unfortunately, there are side effects. These cells kill cancer. I'm in remission now. But my skin was red and
itchy for a year. My mouth is still red. It affects mucosa. And my eyes are itchy. It's called dry eyes. I can't read in the evening. Thank god. I have to use eye drops all the time. It's a side effect of transplantation. But this is what saves me. Yin and yang, if you wish. You have to suffer to survive. It kills all the pathogenic cells. And it kills you a little. If you don't suffer it means something is not working. I don't know if it's clear. I got it. Pathogenic cells are cancerous cells.
In one of your publications you suggested to end a war and let Putin leave. How do you see it? [On April 19 Tinkov wrote 'Dear West, please let Putin leave to stop this massacre'] I don't see it. I want to stop this fucking hell. All this massacre. I'm a simple man. I told them...Maybe I made a mistake again...I apologize. I feel like...I may be wrong...Remember his 'rat in the corner' quote? I didn't read his book but that's what he wrote there. He is in the corner now. If the West was more rat
ional and wanted to stop the war, they could find a way... This was my idea. To find a way to let him leave. A plane and a trillion dollars. I don't know. Not prosecuting him as a war criminal. To give him some kind of guarantees. I was probably too naive when I suggested this. I just wanted to stop the bloodshed. I'm not a politician and I can't find a complex decision. People were mad at me for making such a suggestion. Okay, I shut up. Let the war continue. At least I tried. Remember 'One fle
w over the Cuckoo's nest'? At least I tried. You didn't like my idea. Okay. Suggest something else. Do you get why it can't work? It's gonna be a precedent for anyone who starts a war. And when they fail they'll remind us of Putin getting away with war crimes. Should they persecute him to Moscow? It will end in a nuclear war. It is obvious. If Ukraine invades Russia...It's clear that their army is stronger now. Just because they have something to defend. They know what they're fighting for. Unli
ke their opponents. They'll push Russians out. What next? The war doesn't end here. They'll go further. To Moscow. Then Putin drops the nuclear bomb. What do you suggest? How do you end it? I don't know. Are you scared of the nuclear war? Of course, I am. I am human. I've lived my 54 years. I'm scared for my kids. And for the youth. Nuclear war is not cool for the kids. I can't really imagine this war. How a nuclear war between USA and Russia looks like? There's an opinion that the world is goi
ng to shrink in ten times. I don't know how it works. Is the planet going to shrink? If we consider it to be true, this is terrifying. I don't want it. That's why I suggested something. Maybe I'm a fool. I'm sorry. You quit from Tinkoff bank. How did it happen? What do you mean quit? You are not connected to the bank anymore. Sure. A week ago I still was. [On May 3 Tinkov announced selling 35% of shares of Tinkoff bank] I'm not managing it anymore. When I was ill, and I was seriously ill... I wa
s in the transplantation room. I didn't know if I would survive. I wanted to sell my shares to Yandex. I managed to survive and the bank asked me not to sell the shares. They said we would build a greater company. And by the way...A couple of days before February 24 we surpassed Yandex in capitalization. We made it. We wanted to buy them. This was our way to do it. I passed my shares to the family trust. I didn't know if I would survive. And I transferred the controlling shares. Sorry for explai
ning this. There are non-voting and voting shares. I had voting. I had the 1:10 ratio as in most IT companies. For example, Zuckerberg or Brin own 8% of the shares. However, they own 60% of the voting shares. They make all the decision. I had the same ratio. I owned 35% of the shares and 85% of the voting shares. In IT companies it is permitted to have a 1:10 or 1:15 leverage. Founder knows the company best and he is allowed to make decisions. And I think it's fair. I transferred all my voting
shares to the board of directors. In the last two years we had a real board. English, Americans, Russians. They made all the decisions together. I had no control. But I still had the economic control. I was the biggest shareholder by a margin. I owned 35%, and the second biggest had like 3%. And the bank had my name. And you sold your 35% recently. A week ago. How did it happen? Was this your own will? No, it wasn't. When it all began...Well, it was my will. The price was much lower than I wante
d. When it all began I realized it's gonna get worse. But I couldn't keep silent. I had to speak up. I knew they would push me. And the bank would be in danger. Our managers always told me 'Oleg, please don't make any statements. We have 70000 employees. We have 22 million clients.' This is general logic in Russia now. Don't say anything, you'll make things worse for others. Okay, guys. I didn't say anything. But at some point I could not be silent anymore. I decided to sell the business and sta
rted looking for a buyer. This was in early March. Yes. Early March. I decided to sell my shares. Moscow stock market was open by that time. The company's capitalization was 8 billion dollars. Which is three times smaller than before. It used to be 22 billion. But 8 billion dollars is also a lot. 35% of the shares was more than 2 billion. I felt like I would sell with some discount. Like for 1.5 billion. And I started looking for a buyer. I started talking to oligarchs but they were hesitant. Th
ey said it was too expensive. They were all shocked, by the way. All of them. You know what's interesting. At least three of the businessmen under sanctions are not willing to come back to Russia. Just making things clear. How bad it is. They don't want to go to Russia. Some are in Dubai, some are in London. They don't want to come back. It says a lot about the regime. Even the sanctioned guys don't want to come back. I have an employee from Kharkiv. He told me 'Oleg, are you sure you are the l
iberators? Kharkiv is 38 kilometers from Russian border while Lviv is 1000 kilometers away. And my brother ran to Lviv. Why didn't he ran 38 kilometers east?' It's a great argument. This is not funny. But it says a lot about our country being attractive. People prefer to run for 1000 kilometers instead of driving 38 kilometers to Russia. I spoke to them and then made a publication on March 19. You can't judge me anymore. If I first sold my shares and then would be brave with you, you would say..
. That I want to avoid sanctions. People always look for excuses. I would understand this. But no one can blame me. I made a statement about shitty and corrupt Government and shitty army before selling. The deal wasn't done yet. I didn't have the deal. I had two Datchas in Kamchatka and Astrakhan. [La Datcha - premium resorts in Russia, Europe and Mexico owned by Tinkov] I sold everything. The plant..I mean, the resta....restaurant? I meant the bank! I made the statement. And then I sold my asse
ts a week later. Am I a coward? Or not? Well, if you... Let's put it this way: am I rational or not? You're not. Not rational. Fridman called me and said that I was crazy. He said 'You are crazy'. 'You should have sold first and then spoke!', he said. I said 'Misha, I don't give fuck. It's how I feel'. I can't keep quiet. I can't keep quiet. You know. I don't care if I get 2 billion or 100 million. Or 50 million. What difference does it make? What difference? I don't want to live with this shit.
I want to forget it. They started offering me some pennies. It was after the bank stated they would rename the company. They apparently got a call from Putin's office. And they were scared. They threatened to nationalize the bank and introduce an interim head. People started to cut their cards in halves. They said the bank could go bankrupt after a panic. So they wanted to introduce an interim head. And I knew they would do it. They would appoint an interim head like they did with Otkrytie. My
manager called me and said we would lose the bank. So thanks to Potanin, he made an offer. Pennies. He offered pennies. I said okay, deal. The next day they sent me the money. This was it. Can you say how much you got? I said I got 3%. Calculate yourself. 3%? Pennies. So you got 33 times less than 8 billion? 33 times less than I could get. Than you could get before the war? Yura, why do you need this amount? 300 million or 10 million, what's the difference? I signed an NDA. It's fine then. Of co
urse, there was an NDA. It's their secret. I don't know if InterRos can name this amount. They may. I don't know. I signed it quickly. I just know that I can't disclose the price. How does it happen technically? Did you have a notary? It was in Cyprus. They came to my family. My family signed the papers and the trust sold the company. The deal took place outside of Russia. They bought a holding entity in Cyprus. At the court we learnt that you have a Cyprus citizenship. Yes. Do you still have it
? I think so. I don't if anyone cares about it. Did you get it for investing in the economy? Yes, like everybody else. Everyone got a Cyprus and Monaco passport for investments. Is this your extra option in case there are legal issues in Russia? Or you haven't thought about it? I haven't thought about it. I will always find a way. I can become a refugee at the end of the day. I haven't thought about it yet. Why did you get this passport? To travel. It eases traveling. After you published your f
irst post you came to the comments section and wrote 'I don't care about the bank'. What condition were you in when you wrote it? There was a context. I remember it. Someone wrote... I was drunk, by the way. I drank some wine. I got drunk after making the publication. So I was drunk when I was replying to comments. So he wrote 'How can you make such statements! Your bank is in danger now!' And I said 'I don't care about the bank'. I meant that I could not resist. I can't look at people dying. I
can't look at the blood. Kids, women and so on... All this violence. This is what I meant. Someone asked me: 'How can you frame your bank?' And I said I didn't care. I still care about the bank even after I sold it. I will care about the bank for many years to come. It will have a different name but I will still look after it. If God lets me survive. It's my brainchild. You can't undo fifteen years of your life. But in regards to my statement - I don't care. I choose my civil statement. Two year
s ago you were negotiating with Yandex. And the deal wasn't done as you said because of the price. We've been talking to Arkadiy for a long time.. You mean Arkadiy Volozh Of course. I think he's a great entrepreneur. But he wasn't very constructive this time. He offered me 6 billion. I said 6.2. Can you imagine how much I lost? It would bring me around 2.2 billion. [Tinkov means that 35% of 6 billion would be 2.2 billion] I've always been irrational. I would have had 2.2 billion if I agreed to h
im. In cash. Yes, cash. Maybe it would get arrested. It doesn't matter now. I don't care about the money. It sounds braggy but I don't give a fuck. I've created the greatest bank in the country. I talked to Sergey Galitsky in Milano recently. I told him he was the best entrepreneur. My wife was also there and she can confirm it. I told him he was the best. He looked at me and said: 'Oleg, honestly, you're the best entrepreneur in Russia.' I said why? He said 'You've created four companies in dif
ferent industries. Absolutely different. Retail, food production, brewery, and banking. And all of it were super successful. And I only had one business for fifteen years'. [In 2018 Sergey Galitsky sold 29.1% of the shares of Magnit retail company to VTB, leaving only 3%] He said 'This was much easier than what you did'. You can ask Sergey. I'm ready to die. My team - Oliver and Stas Bliznyuk... [Stanislav Bliznyuk - Tinkoff Chairman Oliver Hughes - the Executive Director. He left the company in
April 2022] They didn't want me to sell the bank. And they were right - a year after it was worth 22 billion. They told me their plan. And asked me not to sell the bank. And felt some bargaining power. Arkadiy should have had more guts and pushed me. The negotiations began in June, and I received transplantation in July. I was lying in the transplantation room and talking to him on the phone. I didn't know if I would survive. My family would get two billion. But then I felt better and I was fin
e by October. This was another reason I didn't sell it. He didn't way to pay a little more, my team was against the deal, and it was fair... In the long-run I lost...And my health was better so I didn't sell the company. And now you sold it for less than 6 billion. I got pennies. Do you regret not selling it then? Now I regret. I just thought that I was a fool. I should have sold it to Yandex for 2 billion. But it doesn't matter. It does not matter. I was worth 9.4 at some point. In the Forbes l
ist? Yes. Now it's 0.2, I guess. Who cares? Who cares? It doesn't influence the quality of my life. I can buy any bike and go to any restaurant. So what difference does it make? I don't care about it. One of my sons is into investment, the other one is into chemistry... And my daughter has her own project. She works for La Datcha. They told me I could do anything. So no one cares. Me and my wife live a relatively humble life. You're at my home now. We don't have a cook or a janitor. We don't hav
e anyone. Please notice. You do hire a cleaning lady. Nobody lives in our house. I'll hire two security guards tomorrow. I've never had security. But now I'll need them. This is going to be something new to us. But we'll deal with it. We are fine. Have I regretted? I have. I was offered 700 million for 5% in January. Who offered that? One American fund. A big one. I regretted but it's nothing worth worrying about. This is just money. I've called one coal oligarch recently. And he said 'The coal
prices are going up since the special operation began!' He said 'My EBITDA would be 1.5 billion!' [EBITDA - Earnings before interest, taxes, depreciation and amortization] And I thought...'Why the fuck do you need another 1.5 billion if you have 20 already?' Given the country is fucked. We are bombing civilians. Why the fuck do you need these 1.5 billion? You know? Why does he need 1.5 billion? What is he going to do with it? I don't get it. Why do you need the bodyguards? After my publications
my friends...I've drunk wine with many great people... They told me...All the oligarchs called me to buy the bank. I've never seen Potanin in real life. He called me via Zoom. 'Hello, Oleg, we would like to purchase the company.' He called me and we closed the deal. They are all in touch with Kremlin. And they told me that Kremlin was unhappy with me. They told me to be careful with my safety. Because the Kremlin didn't enjoy my statements. I asked why they cared about me. And it turned out...ev
en though I've been away for three years...they said it, it may be false. They said that I'm an idol for 20-30 year old IT specialists. Despite my tsar statement, it seems. They told me I was a role model for many young people. And my statement was really important for them. If someone else made the statement...Like Abramovich...He doesn't say anything though. Let's say Deripaska. No one gives a shit what he says. Who cares? But all the IT specialist and the young guys, who are hesitant about s
taying in Russia... What do they do? Stay or leave? And then Oleg Tinkov says that Russia is shit. There's nepotism and corruption. The Kremlin was offended by the statement. They knew that I have some respect among those people. What do you think about Yandex? It's a great company. Arkadiy is a great entrepreneur. Yandex search is super good. Their offline products are controversial but okay. And Yandex News is a pile of shit. They collaborated with Kremlin and I didn't. I have never collaborat
ed with Kremlin. Never. Never edited my ads, statements or maps. Arkadiy is a great man but he will burn in hell for Yandex News. In case someone doesn't know, Yandex News doesn't post any independent media. You'll see only official news on their homepage. This is a censorship showcase. He probably should have sold it or separated it to clean his karma. But he didn't. [In late April Yandex sold News and Zen to VK] This is fucked up. Why didn't he do it? I have no idea. Is Yandex story a story of
Russia and the great disaster? The company that used to be amazing and led the generation... Of course, it's a disaster. They have great employees, talented IT specialists... 99.9% of their employees are cool guys. Really cool. What other great companies do we have? Yandex, Tinkoff, one company in Ekaterinburg and a couple in Saint Petersburg. I forgot the names. They have cool guys, too. You asked me why I never protested. I lived in this environment. You've been there, too. When you see these
guys in ripped jeans with colored hair... I felt like I was in California, where I lived for six years. I thought that these guys were Russia. They were cool. Tinkoff employees are cool dudes. And Yandex, too. There are five IT companies in Saint Petersburg and they are great. And so on. I didn't know about the darkness until I saw it in the comments. Yandex is definitely a great company. And unfortunately their top 1000 employees have left Russia. This is fucked up. I'm really sorry. This is s
ad. How much money do you have now? Have you counted? No, but I should. After I sell my yacht that I've never been on. How much does a yacht cost? A hundred million, I guess. And you have a lot of real estate around the world. I have some left. What is going to happen to La Datcha in Russia? I sold it. You sold it. There's a new owner. How much did you get? I sold it for a market price. I'm not going to cry about it. I sold it for a fair price. I sold my bank for 3 percent but La Datcha wasn't u
nderpriced. These are great resorts. People are going to enjoy their stay in Kamchatka and Astrakhan. Is the Kamchatka Datcha already finished? No, but it's going to be great. It will be the best resort there. The constructors are Finnish and all the materials are already there. Ten thousand square meters with cedar banyas. It's great. Made of huge logs. Finally, a place where out great leader can stay. There's nowhere to stay in Kamchatka. Even when he arrives there, he has to stay in a dump.
There are no hotels there. I really feel sorry for Kamchatka. I'm sorry for selling it. I'm not going to come to Moscow in the near future. Or, probably, ever again. It's okay. Saint Petersburg? It's tough. Leninsk-Kuznetsky, where my father is buried? It's very tough. Very sad. Kamchatka? Gosh...I won't forgive them. Do you still have houses that you lend in Europe? Europe... All over the world I mean. Mexico, too. Is this a profitable business? Yes, it is. My family takes care of it. My daught
er, especially. I don't interrupt. Do you know how much you make from each Datcha annually? It's all profitable. We have profits. This season is going to be bad due to all the disaster. People cancel their bookings. We had a guy who rent a house in Forte for two weeks and cancelled the booking. He's Ukrainian. And then one Russian dude cancelled his booking because he was put in the sanctions list. Everyone suffers. Have you ever thought that your income decreased so much that you have to adapt?
My quality of life is not going to drop. I watched Chulpan's interview...By the way, I need to send her some money. I'll speak to her. Chulpan said that her quality of life crashed down. This is not happening to me in the near future. I don't need much. I know there is a stereotype that I'm a billionaire. I've always been unpretentious in life. I don't know if I need... I loved drinking Burgundy. I will probably drink less expensive wine. Other from that, there's nothing to cut. I don't know ho
w my quality of life can decrease. I eat healthy. A good dinner costs fifty Euro. Okay, I will always have fifty Euro. Why do you think all the businessmen in Russia are quiet now? First of all, I think that 100% of them agree with me. I spoke to fifteen guys from Forbes top-20. To twelve. All of them agree with me. There is a consensus. Absolutely agree. Just to let you know. You mean that they are against the war. Of course they are. And even further. They agree with my statements. Half of th
em told me they had 70 thousand employees. Some had 100, 200, 500 thousand. They said 'How can we make a statement? These people will become prisoners'. This is one excuse. The other half says 'We are not going to change anything. We'll lose our companies after making a statement'. 'Like you lost your company. Is this the result you wanted?' It's their choice. I cannot judge them. But I do. I don't blame them. But I do judge. Have you read Aven's and Fridman's interview? They said they can't aff
ord a cleaning lady. Yes, I have read it. Misha and Petya, unlike me, always work with lawyers and PR-managers. And I think that their PR did a very poor job. This was very stupid. In my opinion. Russians were happy that these pricks are suffering. And in England no one cared. No one feels sorry for them. Who cares that a Russian billionaire has to eat at home instead of going to the restaurant? 90% of the English people would say 'We eat at home every day'. Do you get it? You asked me why Galit
sky was quiet. Did you ask him? I did. I just told you the answer, They all say the same thing. 'I have a business that I created'. I told him that he sold it already. I asked if he was scared for Krasnodar FC? Or the stadium? He built it for the people. I don't know. I can't blame him. How can I blame Galitsky? I really hope he would make a statement. He is also a role model. There are only two of us in Russia...Let's put it this way. There are only two Russian companies that were built from sc
ratch and didn't exist in the USSR. And which reached a billion dollar annual net profit. Net profit. These are Magnit and Tinkoff. That's it. There are no other companies. With all due respect to X5 and so on. These were built on Soviet legacy, oil money and merges. Magnit didn't exist back then. And Tinkoff didn't exist. There was a guy who was selling beer. And he decided to make a bank with no branches. People thought he was crazy, There are only two of us. This is why we are the role model
s. But it would be cool if Sergey made a statement. I think so. I don't blame him. Let me quote. I feel like you should interview him. He would probably decline it. Sergey, stop it. Stop. You cannot hide. You said that you never collaborated with Kremlin. But you were close to Dmitry Peskov. I will tell you about Dima. There are tons of pictures. Here, here, here, and your comment. 'I wish that all authorities were like Dima'. Not tons of pictures. Listen, I'm not going to deny my friends. I don
't know if he denies me. I don't have many friends. About forty people. Or thirty. I mean...Not close friends. I haven't seen Dima for three years. I texted him twice a year. We're friends. We're also friends with Alexander Dyukov. [Alexander Dyukov - Gazprom-Neft Chairman] He's a nice guy. We drank together. We all love wine. Dima enjoys good wine. Sasha, too. Wine from Krasnodar? No, Burgundy. Just clarified. Burgundy. Dima loves different sorts of wine. Sasha Dyukov loves Burgundy, so do I. D
ima is a friend of mine. I think so. I haven't spoken to him since it all happened. The last time I spoke to him was when I was in Cabo San Lucas. It was two weeks before the war. I don't want to quote him. We didn't talk about the situation in details. I feel like everyone around Putin, including Dmitry Peskov, understand what is going on. I feel like they are against the war. It's easy to notice. It's in their faces, their words. I haven't met him many times. You say there are tons of pictures
. We met twice a year. It was either his birthday or his wife Tatiana Navka's birthday. There were always celebrations. We drank wine. He came to visit me a couple of times. Oliver Hughes was also there. Peskov a) is a nice guy. b) never talked to me about politics. Never. He could tell a funny story sometimes. Putin was walking on some island with his guards and met some man in a mask who said 'Holy fuck, Putin!' They cleared the territory but didn't notice this man. It was somewhere in Kamchat
ka. We never talked about politics. It's his job. One of my friends used to work in Kremlin. Another friend builds houses. The third friend is a biking fan. I have many friends. I never asked him anything about Putin. We didn't discuss him. We all understood everything. I can tell you one thing. He never helped me and no one can blame me for that. He never proposed his help. And I never asked him. We kept neutral. I will never deny that he is my friend. I think that he is a very nice person. He
is so cool. He talks crap, like Putin said. I don't think he believes it. He didn't tell me this but I think so. We were friends but we weren't close. I haven't seen him for three years. We met twice a year. We're acquaintances. Generally, he is a very liberal person. It may sound funny. He is a liberal. He is sober and educated person. I hope he's not going to embarrass himself like Lavrov. I don't know Lavrov personally. He used to be a very cultured man. Very sober and liberal. But his latest
statements are very disappointing. The ones where he called Hitler a jew? This, too. Sending nuclear threats to the world. What the hell is this? How can a nice person have Peskov's job? I understand what you're trying to say. How can he escape? How can he leave? Just stand up and leave. I'm not sure. I've heard that Nabiullina wanted to quit... This could be a rumor that was supposed to save her reputation. I don't know if it's true. There's an opinion. I don't know. I don't know if he can lea
ve. Just stand up... This is his job. What if you're friends with undertaker? He works with the deceased. I don't know. This is a bad example. The undertaker doesn't kill people. He lays them to rest. I don't think that Dima kills people. His job is to comment. He's a PR manager. I had a PR guy in my bank. I saw him once a week. He could not influence the company. He could not influence me. I told him 'do this, say that'. He can't do anything himself. There's an opinion, which sounds very logica
l to me, that the PR and propaganda are accomplices In bombing cities and murdering civilians. I've heard this, too. It makes a lot of sense. I've heard that there was a guy like Solovyov in Nazi Germany and he was hanged after the Nuremberg Tribunal. [Julius Streicher - a publisher of antisemitic newspaper 'Der Sturmer'. He was executed after being convicted of crimes against humanity] There is no doubt about these people. We know their names. Is Peskov any different from Solovyov? By pretendin
g to sound intelligent and fake-smart? I know him personally. As I know you. And I know Soloviev. You can't compare these people. I don't know neither... Dima is much more...You can't compare them. I think that Dima will never say things that Solovyov says. I'm trying to defend him now. This is wrong. You're contradicting yourself. Okay. Imagine that I'm friends with a very nice guy Vasya Ivanov. He's such a cool guy. We go snowboarding together. You drink together. Yes, we drink Krasnodar wine.
Made by Galitsky. We love going to Roza Khutor. We love going to punk rock gigs. But Vasya is a cop and he tortures people at his work. And I know it. I say: 'We don't talk about his job. We like to mosh together'. So I don't talk about his job. This is my excuse. Meanwhile he so good at choking out suspects and torturing them. Don't you feel like it's the same thing? Look - I don't want to be mean. And spoil my karma. I don't want to betray anyone and call him an asshole. I'm not as close to h
im as you just said. We just know each other. Let's put it this way. We're not friends. We're acquaintances. This is more correct. I know him as a very nice person. I remember that he made the picture and told me to post it. He's a very open-minded and liberal person. I know this. I can't betray him. What do you want from me? To call Peskov an asshole? He's not an asshole. He's a nice person. He's got a shitty job. Forgive him. I have a classmate. Her name is Lena. She's my friend. We studied to
gether in the mining institute. We're friends with her husband. And our kids are friends. We just went to Cabo San Lucas recently. Spent two weeks there. Everything that she has she got from me. I bought her a flat and a car. And good wine. I helped them because we are friends. She does her own thing. And she thinks that this fucking Z-operation is good. She loves Putin. What do I do now? What do I do with our 34 years of friendship? Should I say 'Go fuck yourself, Lena'? We have another classma
te named Sveta. She loves Putin, too. She drew a 'Z' on her car. What do I do? Tell me. Should I stop being friends with the people that drank a six-rouble vodka with me in the campus? And their husbands, too. I've had arguments with them. Now we don't talk to each other. I can't talk to them now. Should I stop talking to them? Are you asking me? Yes. I'm speaking for myself but this is obvious for me. You shouldn't dump people for having political views different from yours... This is not right
because we need a competitive system. If a person loves Putin, that's fine. But it could work only before February 24. This person doesn't support my opponent now. He supports war. He supports killing people. How can we be friends? You can try to convince him. This is why I don't talk to them. If you can't convince them then it's clear. It's a basic way to learn if the person is worth caring and loving. This is why I don't talk to them, unfortunately. Talking about Peskov - we spoke three month
s ago. We spoke in whatsapp. As far as I can tell from TV - he is shocked. I might be wrong. He may be a prisoner - who knows. If I say something, they will kick him out of Kremlin. They'll say 'Why did Tinkov call you nice?' I don't want to support him because it can be bad for him. I don't know... You gave a long interview on cancer to Panushkin. I think it's pretty much detailed. Can you clarify a couple of things? You first had chemotherapy and then the bone marrow transplantation. I had thr
ee chemotherapy cycles which killed the cancer. And four months later I had the transplantation. Your treatment cost 120 thousand Euro. In Germany I paid 120 for the chemotherapy. And then I paid 120 thousand for the transplantation. [The transplantation took place in London] So total amount was about 250 thousand. The man who lied next to you in the hospital... He was German. ...Was a gardener who got the treatment for free. Yes. Right. His country paid for it? Yes. It was funny. I behaved like
a Russian businessman. I didn't know anything about cancer back then. They injected the treatment. I was lying half-conscious. And I asked the professor... This was a regular hospital in Germany. It's called Helios. I said 'Can you bring me the most expensive pills? I can afford anything!' He looked at me and said 'Oleg, calm down. You're getting the best treatment in the world currently'. 'Moreover, in the room next to you there is a gardener. And he gets the same treatment. The difference is
that you're paying for it and he's getting it from his insurance. He said 'We don't do it like you do in Russia'. It was a fair comment. He told me two things. His name is professor Glaas. He said 'In Russia they always lie to the patient. They tell the family one diagnosis and the patient the other'. 'We don't lie here. Let me be clear - you don't have many chances but we will do our best'. I was lying there speechless. He said 'I know. In Russia they tell this only to your family. They always
lie to the patient'. This is questionable. And the second thing was... 'The gardener gets the same treatment as you. You are getting the best treatment that is available. Money won't help you'. When you spoke about your treatment you were true to yourself and said that you had sex during chemotherapy. Is this possible physically? Don't you feel too weak to do it? I've had a nurse from Ukraine. Her name was Alena. She brought me Ukrainian food. By the way, the hospital food was horrible in German
y. And she brought me food from her Ukrainian aunt. She brought borsch, duck and so on. It cost almost nothing. Like a full bag for 15 Euro. And she told me she's never heard about having sex during chemotherapy. She's worked there for many years. She asked me 'Did you really do it?' I said 'Yes'. I think it's pretty much individual. How did she know you had sex? I told her. She said 'Oleg, you should do more sports!'. And I told her that I had sex a day before. She said 'Wow'. Given the fact th
at if you have blood cancer you get the hardest chemo. You get the hardest chemo because the cancerous cells are everywhere. Everywhere. So the worst chemo is for the blood cancers. And for some types of lung cancer. So I got a lot of it. It's called doxorubicin. It's really bad. People asked me how I felt during the chemotherapy. And my best explanation was 'it's like reverse drugs'. It's the opposite of drugs. You don't talk about drugs here. Anyway, you're a foreign agent. You don't give a fu
ck. You had your check-up every year. You had a full medical examination each December. Yes. And it didn't help you to diagnose the cancer. It's called acute leukemia. I'm forgetting Russian words now. It's called [acute leukemia]. It starts in two weeks. The doctors call it a Friday leukemia. When during the pandemic all the hospitals were closed, they were still healing leukemia. You don't have time to wait. They even used planes to transport the patients in the USSR. I think they still do it
here. So every day matters. Glaas told me that if we don't start the chemotherapy, I'll die. The cancerous cells start producing at a fast pace. And these dummy cells spoil your blood. This is why the call it the white blood disease. Your blood looks brighter. So it's impossible to...I forgot the word...Why do you do a check-up? To alert. Not alert. There's another word. Not diagnose... To prevent. Right! To prevent. In the comments section you wrote 'Deripaska is an oligarch and a thief. And I'
m a fair businessman'. I'm glad that someone reads my comments. I wrote this and I think so. It's not about Deripaska. It's about everyone. They are all thieves. They all privatized what our grandparents built. The word 'thief' sounds too harsh. They are...crooks. 'I'm a fair businessman'. Can you remind me why you paid 0.5 billion dollars to USA? I can. I paid a fine for incorrect tax reports after renouncing the citizenship. I paid an exit tax. I told it in the court so I won't make any excuse
in front of you. I made a mistake in the declaration. God knows it. And I don't joke with God now. Having a 50% chance to survive... I didn't know there was an exit tax. It turned out that when you renounce US citizenship, you have to pay a 30% tax on the increase in your assets value. On your equity. Yes. On the increase only. If I had 10 billion before the citizenship and had 8 when I renounced, I don't have to pay anything. I became a US citizen when I was a student, in 1996. I renounced whe
n the bank went public. The bank went public and you became a billionaire. Yes. And the worst thing is that we went a public a day before. We went public on October 23, and the documents were processed on 26. I filed the documents in Russia on October 1. I didn't know it would take 20 days to send the documents back and forth. They made a hole in my US passport and got it stamped. They gave me a paper that I exited the citizenship. However, officially it was documented 21 days later. They sent m
e the certificate later. One day played a crucial role here. When I was filling the declaration I thought I was no longer a US citizen. It doesn't matter now. I made a mistake. I paid for it. [Tinkov paid a 530 million dollar fine to USA] I'm clean now. I paid everything. All the taxes. So you... Wait a minute. What I meant by calling myself a fair businessman? I never bribed anyone. Never in my life. You can bring a lie detector. I didn't register my business on fake companies. Like most of the
oligarchs did. I never asked anyone to solve my problems. I worked the American way. I studied marketing at Berkeley. And I did it this way. I built a company with American values. I could get twenty banks by bank resolution by I didn't. Do you know why? They wanted a bribe. I said I won't do it. It's against my nature. I fucked up as an individual. Unfortunately, I had to pay a huge fine. I called it a water cycle. I sold my shares and then I used this money to pay the fine back to the US. Tha
nk God I did it before the war. I paid everything. Why didn't your lawyer tell you? It's a good question. And it correlates...I mean, it proves my previous point. Unlike Misha and Petya (Fridman and Aven), who work with lawyers, I am a simple man. I renounced myself. I speak English quite well. So I filled out all the forms. I didn't hire a lawyer. People asked me if I was stupid. I asked them to understand that in 2013 I had no lawyer. I didn't hire anyone. I did everything myself. It's simple
in the US, all the forms are available online. The form is called 10.40. I filled it out. And I wrote that I paid 300 thousand dollars a year as my income tax. I didn't know about the exit tax. This could be a criminal offense. It was a criminal offense. Did you ever think that you would go to prison? One hundred percent. I didn't go to prison only because I'm ill. By the way, this case was a big trigger for me. The court was held in Zoom because I felt bad. And judge Tigar...Do you remember Tru
mp's first law against the immigrants? Now think about it. Judge Tigar said that Trump was wrong and let the immigrants enter the country. Do you remember this? It was him. The first gay marriage was allowed by him. He's an ultra-liberal San Fransisco judge. I lived in San Fransisco. And he said... Judge Tigar said... Yes, the judge. George [Jon] Tigar... I cried at court. He told me this... 'You did a terrible crime. You must be imprisoned. This must be six years of prison...' And shows me the
conduct. 'Six years of prison. But I will never put you in prison. Because...' I'll say it in Russian... Because you are ill. I know that you have a 50% chance to survive. I will not put you in prison. You have to pay a fine'. I owed them 200 thousand and with the fine I paid 530. 'You must pay a fine and with all my heart... I wish you to get well and survive'. Fuck. I cried. This is justice. You know. This is justice. In Russia, we have to start with lustration. Fuck all the judges. All the FS
B, KGB, SVR, GRU. Leave the police, they are bastards anyway. We'll do something later. We need lustration for all of them. All of them. Yeltsin could not do it properly. When he became the president, and you were still toddlers... I went to register my company. But everything was closed. This was in Frunzensky district of Leningrad. The City Committee was closed. Yeltsin prohibited it. Then, unfortunately, he played it back and all the assholes regained their power. Generally, Russia is not goi
ng to change if there are no lustrations. All the judges...And all the school teachers, too! All of them. People who falsify the elections, they don't teach. They falsify. They throw in ballot papers. We need a total lustration of the school teachers, judges, FSB, KGB, SVR, and so on. And then we can talk about what's next. If you want to put Peskov there, do it. We have to do it. You said that adult hematology in Russia is horrible. To put it mildly. What do you mean? All of it. If you don't li
ve in a million-plus city, you're over fifty and you have leukemia... You're going to die with 90% probability. If you live in any European city...any village... And you're also fifty and have leukemia... There's a 50 or 40% probability you are going to die. That's the difference. Margins. We don't have anything. No hospital rooms... Tinkov's family fund is now reconstructing...I mean constructing three rehabilitation facilities. In Chelyabinsk, Ekaterinburg, and somewhere else. I can't remember
. There are no transplantation boxes. Nurses are not educated. We have three projects: laboratory training, nurses training, and...building facilities. Building transplantation centers. There are no centers, nurses are uneducated. There are no doctors, no medicines, no chemotherapy. No donors, no fucking nothing. No fucking nothing. I wanted to spend 200 million dollars and change something. And even more. We wanted to collect a billion. And the big companies donated a lot of money. Severstal, a
nd others. They sent millions of dollars. I didn't ask them. They knew it was a big deal. Let's explain how endowment works. I may be mistaken. Let's say you have a billion dollars donated and you invest it... You invest it and part of your profit goes to charity. If you have a 10% profitability index, you make 100 million which goes to charity. Correct. We wanted to collect a billion dollars and if we take 10% profit, then the project budget would be equal to 100 million. We wanted to make it b
ig. We wanted to buy ads on TV. You know I'm good at marketing. We wanted to launch the project.. You said that the mortality rate among adult Russians with leukemia is extremely high. However, it's much lower for the kids. What are the rates? Generally, it's hard to tell. There are different adults. Eighty year old is an adult, as well as a forty year old. It depends on your age. But overall the kids survival rate is 95%, and the adults survival rate is about 40-50 percent. By adults I mean thi
rty+. Of course, among 70-80 years of age the mortality rate is 95%. And among 30 year olds it's 40%. Can we say that the children survival rate increased because of Chulpan Khamatova? This is obviously because of her. She made it. Of course, she worked in a team. There was Maschan... [Alexey Maschan - Russian hematologist, deputy head of children hematology, oncology and immunology center] There were other colleagues. Panushkin was responsible for PR. This was a team work of the 'Podari Zhizn'
fund. But Chulpan was the one who made it all happen. This is obvious. Just think about it. I'm fighting for my karma. And her karma is so clean that she's already in heaven. She's an angel. The survival rate before her was 40%. She saved tens of thousands kids in Russia. This is a role of individual in history. You admitted being too rude. Yes, I was rude. There were two things that seem crazy to me. We're having a confession today. A bank employee with a crown on her head... It was a joke that
we did together! [In March 2016, Tinkov posted a picture of his employee in a crown and called her 'one of our bitches'. In the comments he called her a free whore and posted her phone number] This is bullshit. Absolutely not true. Wait - you offended her. We made it up together. We wanted to get some hype. I object. She knew it? Call her. She worked for me for three more years. I said 'Let's call you this and this'...I was into traffic back then, as you are now. Now I don't care about the lik
es and the views. But back then I wanted some hype! This word didn't exist back then. This was hype and she knew it. This is over. And the second thing - you had a conflict with Nemagia. And then the police came to search them. It looked like a rich guy Tinkov sent policemen after filing for protection of honour and dignity. The case was moving slowly until an investigator from Moscow came to visit them. Let me explain. I haven't watched this crap. But I saw some short parts where someone was p
issing on me. I got mad. But it was nothing serious. And then something really bad happened. They offended my wife. And my wife is a saint. I knew she was saint. But after three last years...She has the crown. As a Siberian man I could not let this happen. I was not right, I understand it now. I'm not always right. I said 'What the fuck? Why are you insulting my family?' My wife gave zero interviews. They could barely find her pictures with me. And they offended a woman. She asked me why they di
d that. I went mad. I called my lawyer. I called our security team. We didn't have a classic team of gangsters. But there were some IT specialists working for me. I asked them to go to court and to defend us at any costs. I was in Italy at that time. I came to Russia in October and it all took place in August. Then Amiran settled accounts for us. So my team filed a lawsuit. I've never sued anyone, by the way. This was the only time. They filed the lawsuit. And then I assume the policemen wanted
to bring me the prey ask for money. Or my lawyers tried to motivate them verbally or in some other way. I don't know that. We opened a criminal case. It's a fact. They offended me. Can I protect myself? I was told it was stupid because I got the hype from the video. And then some cops flew there. I don't know anything about it. I learnt it just like you - from the media. And frankly, I was happy. I said - this is what you get, bitches. My bad. Not a good Christian. But I was happy. I called my
lawyers and said well done. But I never bullied them. Let's be serious. If Oleg Tinkov wanted to do something bad to them, would he do it? What do you think? I dropped the charges when the court began. I said nevermind. I was wrong for filing a lawsuit. If I wanted to punish them...It's been five years. Someone would suddenly break a leg or get hit by a car. Or get imprisoned for possession of drugs. How much does it cost to open a case for drugs possession in Kemerovo? How much does it cost for
me? A bottle of wine is more expensive. You know. I didn't do it because I don't want to get my hands dirty. I forgave them. I forgave them and never bullied them. It's a myth. Michael Nacke said it, too. I never bullied them and no one can prove it. It's always assumed that the rich guy is to blame. I'm guilty because I'm rich! If I wanted to do something to them, I would do it! It's been five or six years! I forgave them in three months and forgot about them. God save me. It sounds like when
Putin said 'If we wanted, we would have poisoned him'. It can sound whatever you want. But I didn't bully them. I could have done something to them. But I didn't do it. So you think that someone wanted to serve you? Do you get how weird it was? An investigator flies from Moscow to Kemerovo. How can I send cops there? How can I do it? I was sitting there... A minute ago you said you could plant drugs given how rich you are. The same logic. I didn't do it. I know. But if it was possible. Can I tr
y to simulate it? The cops decided to threaten the guys and then say... 'Give us ten thousand dollars. Or a hundred thousand. We are going to do everything for you'. This is how I feel. The case wasn't exceptional, by the way. Investigators travel to other cities. I never did anything to them. The application was filed by my lawyers. So I have nothing to do with it. Was I wrong? If I had a time machine I would not sue them. It crated so many rumors about me. I didn't want to be associated with
these kind of things. This was a wrong move. I was too angry. Anger is not the best... I'm an impulsive Siberian guy. Anger is never your best assistant. If the question was if I was wrong, I was. I'm a great sinner. May God save me. I wish to die with no sins. I'll try to take communion and confess before I die. I'm a great sinner. I would like to end the interview here. I'm a great sinner and I ask everyone for forgiveness. Please forgive me. Two last questions before I'm done. This is our sta
ndard ending this season. When do you think you are going to come back to Russia? I'll give you a standard answer: when Putin dies. Or when there's no Putin. This is obvious. I don't know how long I'm going to live. It's an interesting challenge: who dies first. I feel like he's going to outlive me. I don't see myself coming back when he's there. How can I go there? He's not an American judge. They have trials in Khimki. They'll sue me at the airport. Right in Sheremetyevo. They held Navalny in
Khimki, didn't they? They will prosecute me at Sheremetyevo. What do you think about his lawsuit and his poisoning? By the way - I was in my transplantation box when he was in the hospital in Berlin. I was worried about him! He's not my political hero, to be honest. I feel like there's a lot of revanchism there. He's too aggressive. It scares me. If he becomes a president. But it's a different topic. When he was ill I was really worried about him. I remember how he learnt to walk in Charite. And
I was in Helios across the road. I was so happy that he started walking. I was rooting for him. I'm glad that he recovered. And then all this hell broke loose. How can you put him to prison after such a disease? He's not healthy. He's ill. They could have sentenced him to home arrest. They could isolate him. Let him sit at home and take his pills and do sports. Why would you send him to jail? Is that possible that you're never coming back to Russia? It is. How do you put up with it? It's hard.
It's hard for my wife. I'm fine with it because I've been away for three years. I was in the hospital. It's really hard for my wife. She's depressed. She's Estonian, though. She moved to Russia when she was nineteen. But she associates herself with Russia. And the last question: what is power? I think it's in the truth. It's a 'Brother' quote. Not really appropriate. Let me answer once again. This was too quick. I meant truth. When I talked to you and made a publication recently... I think it's
really cool to say what you think. I think it makes you stronger. One of our guests Vasya Sigarev said that everyone has their own truth. This is true, too. So Putin has his own truth. I'm quoting Vasya now. There's an opinion that we are here because of that. If you gave me more time to think about it... Take your time. I'll give you an answer. I think that family is power. This can be in a gay family. But they are still a family. I don't mean you should have five kids. Just being a social unit
... What do they call it? A primary social unit. A primary unit as they taught us. Family is power. If there is no family, there is nowhere to find the strength.

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