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Voices - 2023 CAPAS Annual Conference

The 2023 Annual Conference of CAPAS in collaboration with the Faculty of Philosophy and Humanities at the University of Chile took place in Santiago de Chile at the end of March. Under the topic ‘Ruptures: Approaches from/about Latin America’ the conference sought to address ‘rupture’ as a way of conceiving radical forms of discontinuity and their potentialities. Addressing real and imagined systemic change in the context of pressing social, political and ecological challenges, the contributions investigated the immense diversity of ruptures in time and space in order to assess and act upon the radical transformative effects they provoke. The video captures the main issues addressed at the conference. It contains interviews with the keynote speakers and more participants from various disciplines: • Alejandra Bottinelli Wolleter, CAPAS Fellow 2021-22, Literary Studies, Faculty of Philosophy and Humanities, University of Chile • Sergio Rojas, Philosophy, Faculty of Philosophy and Humanities, University of Chile • Natalia López, History, Cultural Studies, independent researcher, University of Chile • Gastón Gordillo, Anthropology, University of British Colombia, Canada • Bruna Della Torre, CAPAS fellow 2022-23, Sociology, Universidad Campinas, Brazil • Eduardo Russo, Social Psychology, Universidad Nacional de la Plata, Argentina To produce a multifocal perspective on ruptures, we asked them: When can we talk about ruptures and how can they be identified? How and where are ruptures experienced and represented? How can the temporality of rupture be conceptualised? How do historical traumas and crises (conquest, slavery, dictatorships, others) affect Latin American peoples’ vision of the past and the future? What role do American cultural heterogeneity and the non-Western epistemes present in the Americas play in the diverse imagination of ends and possible worlds? How does an apocalyptic rupture contribute to the (transformative) creation of worlds? To all the interviewees: Thank you for your support and for taking the time to answer the questions!

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Not only I came up with the idea; it came talking to CAPAS' directors, mainly Felicitas and Robert. It was about conceiving the end and what comes after it in the territory, which is also symbolic, of Latin America. For us, the notion of rupture was also a way of thinking about the apocalypse and the post-apocalypse in Latin America, because it's a continent and a cultural area ripe with contradictions. At the start of its history we find a huge rupture which, I would say both our colleagues fro
m CAPAS and me describe as an apocalypse, as the end of various worlds. It marked at least the end of a very important world, judging by the way it had operated up until then: the indigenous worlds that were persecuted, killed, hurt and abused during the conquest. Indigenous worlds were radically transformed. This left a mark on our continent; this rupture is very much there. We are the cultural children of many ruptures, many of which have been transformative and positive. These days Gastón Gor
dillo talked about the notion of revolution which is something we find very appealing. This notion is closely linked to coloniality and to decoloniality, the ways in which we can decolonialise our thought. We reflect on rupture as a harrowing experience that may also become creative. So we thought this notion created a big space for debate. Today, not only in Latin America, but in the whole world... which we now interestingly tend to call planet instead of world, as if the world were a sort of t
otality of sense which is also in crisis and its material support, the planet, becomes apparent. I think we live in a planet-wide crisis which we can call various names: one of them is "institutional crisis" affecting al sorts of institutions: the family, the state or university as the institution of knowledge, and so on. Institutions have been discredited. Politically, it's a crisis affecting democracy as an institution, especially liberal democracy. However, there is no alternative. This crisi
s is unlike those in the 20th century, which preceded an often structural transformation, and, thus, heralded a fundamental change, a new world vision. Today it seems crises are here to stay, the end is not something announced, but the space we inhabit. This end, however, is not the outcome of a tale. We are not reaching the outcome, be it grim or promising, happy; this end keeps dragging out, there is no outcome, this is a non-narrative ending. In that sense, the concept of the end of the world
is, in my opinion, a humanist fault. Like the idea of apocalypse, right? It means a sort of revelation. It is materially a catastrophic moment, but it is also the moment that reveals the truth of what was history up to that point. Having that in mind, we are not living in apocalyptic times. Thinking about an upcoming apocalypse placed 10 or 100 years from now, however paradoxical clinging to a disaster is, it means holding fast to a humanist concept of conceiving the course of time. That is, a
conception which entails a sort of tale. Today, however, we inhabit an ending without outcome, and this brings unprecedented problems. The biggest challenge faced today by academia and thought in general is developing concepts that allow us to consider what is unprecedented in our situation. It is very tempting to think it has been going on for long, that institutions have long been in crisis, that human condition as it is expressed was already the topic of philosophers in the 17th and 18th cent
uries. But I don't think so. Precisely this philosophical trope is worn out. We resort to those concepts sheepishly, with quotation marks, when we talk about "revolution" or even "democracy". It can be clearly seen in youth language. They constantly mime quotation marks when using terminology: state, democracy, law, person, etc. As if we were aware that our vocabulary is unfit, not literal, but unfit to designate the reality and the times we live in. At the same time, we lack new concepts. So, w
e live in an unprecedented, dangerous and risky moment and this is my way of understanding the end. Latin America is a unique place to think about rupture. That is why we gathered here, because it's a place marked by ruptures: its peoples had their own historical continuity and it was interrupted by Spanish and Portuguese colonisation. That was a constitutive rupture. Latin America is a very suitable place to think about trauma and rupture, but also about the ways in which its peoples cope with
it, how they handle the fractures not only to survive, but inventing dignified ways to create from within the loss, the trauma, the mourning. But it's important to acknowledge memory, trauma and mourning. That is why many of the work and exhibitions we have seen refer pretty much to that: the way in which Latin America, given its colonial conditioning, meant we had to cope with trauma and rupture without getting paralysed or lost in melancholy, or living in a fake state of happiness that doesn't
face the trauma. Developing this at a political and aesthetic level is of course a way of showing the world how to cope with such deep historical and epistemic ruptures which, in many cases, came to mean the end of the world, especially for indigenous peoples, as it has often been mentioned. Native Americans lived through the end of the world many times, but they are not gone, they keep trying to resist and keep sharing their epistemes, depicted as the ways to get out of this entanglement and s
omehow cope with rupture; like creating a new social bond, stitching or mending the rupture. Si nos fijamos en la experiencia de los pueblos indígenas que han sufrido siglos de genocidio, conquistas y violencia, vemos que experimentaron catástrofes y el fin de sus mundos desde el comienzo de la colonización europea. Entonces, es a raíz de esta memoria con la que muchos pueblos ameríndios lideran las protestas por el clima y exigen una relación distinta con el mundo. Recientemente hubo episodios
más violentos e incluso olas de violencia genocida, sobre todo durante la ola de dictaduras militares que gobernaron gran parte de América Latina durante la Guerra Fría y reprimieron las protestas y los movimientos revolucionarios en episodios de terror en Chile, Argentina, Guatemala... en todo el continente. Creo que los activistas latinoamericanos del presente beben de esta memoria y de este legado de violencia para reavivar los antiguos movimientos de activismo. Llevo pocos días en Chile, per
o me parece fascinante: el recuerdo de la insurrección de 2019 está muy presente y converge con la memoria del govierno de Allende en los 70, y de la dictadura militar, el referéndum reciente en el que se rechazó la nueva constitución y cómo la gente todavía está asimilando el resultado. Cuando llegué a la universidad, había protestas: antidisturbios, cócteles molotov, jóvenes enfrentándose a la policía... Fue una muestra de que la sensación de malestar y el radicalismo todavía perviven en mucho
s lugares de América Latina, como Chile. Creo que América Latina... sobre todo ante la ola de gobiernos llamados de centro-izquierda que hubo en gran parte del continente los últimos 20 años, América Latina está en la vanguardia global de los movimientos por la justicia social y climática. He querido pensar la ruptura en otro sentido del fenómeno porque en Brasil hemos experimentado otro tipo de ruptura, la que propone la extrema derecha. En Brasil vivimos una especie de paradoja, ya que la rupt
ura siempre fue un término utópico y revolucionario, pero ahora en Brasil y en otros lugares de América Latina, en Estados Unidos y en Europa, los protagonistas de este movimiento rupturista son los movimientos de la derecha. Esta realidad debería preocuparnos, y deberíamos intentar entenderla, reflexionarla y combatirla. We should think in terms... those are some of the theories I will present today... We should think about "temporalities" in plural. Not only temporality as a rupture of lineari
ty, but how a given idea of contemporaneity is linked to the interweaving of different times, not only to the mere persistence of the present, or just being here and now. There are various orders and disorders referring to an interplay of temporalities which, in cinema and visual arts, is very clear in its implications, as the kind of games that today open what is known as screen arts: cinema, the world of electronic arts, digital creation on screen, etc. There is an interplay of temporalities,
not a rupture of linearity. The first we should consider is that our continent has been marked by ruptures. The first one was the colonial rupture; it shaped the perception we have of what we are and will become, what the future can be, but also of the past, a past that was violated, too. A past that was somehow severed by the power, by the conquerors. So, our birth, our beginning in current terms is found in this huge rupture which was also a way to obscure those who were vanquished, men, women
, non-binary... Those who had to fight and find creative ways to break through and open paths to new futures. There are peoples and cultural frameworks that are strained by colonial power relations, or as professor Luisa Angela Martínez said, transcolonial: in many ways they persist until today. So, in that case, rupture starts to look like a possible way to create, since one needs to close certain paths in order to open up new ones. In Latin America there is also a very strong feeling of being
permanently called to action, called to create alternatives because coloniality shapes everything and affects the way we operate in our everyday lives. You have probably seen it these days: when we welcome colleagues from Latin America the dialogue tends to be very fruitful, very much in agreement, as we acknowledge the situation of permanent coloniality we experience. There is a strenght that is not exclusive to Latin America but is found in the peoples: they resort to creative rupture to open
up new possible worlds. Voy a recurrir de nuevo a Jameson porque creo que esta crisis del pensamiento apocalíptico o del pensamiento revolucionario, si se prefiere llamarlo así, está relacionada con la abolición del pasado y del futuro, y esta especie de presencia imperialista del presente en nuestras vidas. En América Latina, pues, vivimos una paradoja. Hemos tenido movimientos de izquierda muy importantes, como aquí en Chile, que intentan cambiar la sociedad desde las raíces. Pero también hay
movimientos de derecha que intentan abolir la idea de un futuro posible. Entonces, de alguna manera deberíamos recuperar nuestra forma de imaginar el pasado y del futuro para poder diferenciar y poder... ir más allá de este presente que marca nuestra vida diaria y política. Esta cita de Jameson es muy famosa y se refiere a una de las paradojas de nuestro tiempo. El cambio climático genera cada vez más miedo y malestar y esto se refleja en la gran cantidad de películas postapocalípticas que nos i
ncitan a pensar en el fin del mundo. Sin embargo, Jameson y otros pensadores afirman que parece reinar una incapacidad colectiva de pensar, más allá de la noción de fin del mundo, en el fin del capitalismo o en el inicio de algo nuevo más allá de las formas capitalistas de destrucción medioambiental, el trabajo, la explotación. En mi ponencia quise partir de esa cita de Jameson para imaginar cómo podría ser un mundo postapocalíptico en contraposición a imaginar el fin del mundo. Uno de los térmi
nos más potentes para hablar de ruptura es "revolución". Sobre todo tras la caída de la Unión Soviética se ha tenido la sensación de que las revoluciones son cosa del pasado, que no son algo de lo cual deberíamos hablar; sin embargo, al mismo tiempo, hace falta un cambio radical en el contexto de la emergencia climática y de eso justamente quise hablar. He observado que cada vez hay más activistas en toda América que quieren redefinir la idea de revolución. Esto implica aprender de los errores y
de los fracasos de los proyectos revolucionarios del pasado, pero también repensar la idea de revolución para los retos del siglo XXI y, en consecuencia, llegar a imaginar un futuro postcapitalista en vez de obsesionarnos con imaginar el fin del mundo sin ser capaces de imaginar el fin del capitalismo. Mi ponencia se basa en mi experiencia en Canadá y Argentina e intenta reflexionar sobre estas distintas nociones de ruptura y sobre el hecho de que cada vez más activistas intentan imaginar alter
nativas al capitalismo global. We focus on the politics of the impossible, how the impossible makes history. I am very interested in this. In that regard, the impossible is not that which is not real, but that which makes history within its impossibility. So it's linked to catastrophes. In my talk I mentioned two events to exemplify this topic. First, the popular government of Salvador Allende in the early 1970s, a social, political and economical process, rather than a project, aimed at transfo
rming society in its structure. This project was only feasible through a democratic approach. An armed approach was impossible in that case. However, the military coup of 1973 showed that a democratic approach wasn't possible either, so that was an impossible project. However, it did happen. The impossible happened. So we could describe it as our last catastrophe. Our present cannot be understood without referring to that catastrophe, to the collapse of the democratic institution which we could
get back in late 1980s and which is today experiencing a crisis. To think about the present, we must bear that in mind. Recently, as a result of the riots that not only took place here, but in the whole world... What happened in Chile is very interesing because one day the country was living in turmoil, then there were three or four determining events and we were suddenly working on a new constitution. The expectations were high, but in the plebiscite prevailed rejection towards the project of a
new constitution. I find this is very interestingly linked to the topic of this conference. Reflecting on the impossible making history once again because the current unease within the framework of what is called neoliberalism both in Chile and the whole world, is actually discontent. But it's an undetermined discontent, it cannot be met by a specific object, but it's cast towards existence in its entirety, towards our way of organising existence, beyond economic inequality, to mention an examp
le. Transformation, thus, should be structural, it should change our way of living. That was the expectation of the draft constitution. It had concrete proposals regarding economic and social development, but others referred to the native peoples, feminism, migration, etc. These talked about a new way of living. The problem lies in translating this into politics. I think the rejection towards this project we call draft constitution stemmed from the rejection towards those proposals related to a
new way of living, directly or indirectly related to what people associated with gender ideology, cherishing indigenous peoples, called historical debt, among others. So, if we want to consider ways of solving the unease, we need a new way of living, but that is impossible, so we constantly swim within this impossibility. So it's not about no existing, because things start in a non-existence. What is the apocalypse? We know there is a very clear and defined matrix that stems from religion: the B
iblic apocalypse as the womb, the main source that somehow establishes how apocalypses are conceived as an ending that opens the possibility of a revelation. In the conference we have seen there are other ways and narratives dealing with the idea of the end and the apocalypse anew. Similarly to rupture, it can be understood from subjective and individual experiences, but also the ever-present idea of apocalypse in all of humanity and in all cultures. It should be understood as a strategy to reth
ink the present, marked by a climate crisis that reveals itself as an apocalypse which is no longer part of a mythical tale or mystique, but very real. It does not belong to the future, but it's happening now. In the conference we also talked about this very productive idea: the idea of a creeping, evolving apocalypse that may seem slow or veiled, but it's right in front of our eyes, it's right there, happening. The current idea of apocalypse is one of the most urgent and crucial ideas to think
how we can deal with a kind of apocalypse which is most similar to climatic devastation and the depletion of resources we thought of as endless, and now realise they are not. This brings us closer to the end of nature and resources, which would mean the end of everyone. On the one hand, it's interesting that we don't have to resort to imagination: the sings point to a realist perception of our environment. So there is no need to think that the apocalypse requires going much beyond our surroundin
gs. Suddenly, many elements in our everyday lives, and our sociopolitical, economic or media realities seem to be linked to signs that belong to the image of turmoil evoked by the mere thought of the apocalypse; beyond the traditional idea of revelation, this one requires us to urgently read the signs which are plentiful in the lands of Latin America. El mundo ya ha pasado por varios apocalipsis localizados: el Holocausto en Europa, por ejemplo, fue una especie de apocalipsis. El genocidio de pu
eblos indígenas en América, el comercio transatlántico de esclavos... Pero hoy, el cambio climático y el calentamiento global por primera vez en la historia de la humanidad plantean un apocalípsis a escala global. Hay quienes afirman que, aunque los humanos desaparezcan, la vida en la Tierra continuará, como ya ocurrió antaño. Es bien sabido y por esto se habla de la sexta extinción. El planeta ya ha pasado por episodios apocalípticos: los meteoritos que hicieron desaparecer a los dinosaurios, p
or ejemplo. Pero sabemos que la vida es resiliente. Es muy probable que, aunque los humanos desaparezcan, otras formas de vida serán más resilientes y la vida reflorecerá. Al mismo tiempo, políticamente debemos reflexionar sobre la resiliencia y la supervivencia de los humanos en condiciones distintas, no solo entornos hostiles, sino creando posibilidades para la prosperidad y la justicia. Antes de mi ponencia, ayer alguien dijo que es importante pensar el apocalipsis en términos antiapocalíptic
os. Debemos pensar en la posibilidad de un apocalipsis global si no cesa la explotación y la extracción de combustibles fósiles porque nos dirigimos hacia él. Pero no caigamos en la desesperación, el pesimismo y la parálisis. Esta es la respuesta emocional más habitual ante la crisis climática: estamos condenados, no podemos hacer nada. Es fundamental luchar contra estas emociones y pensar el apocalipsis en sentido antiapocalíptico: mientras sigamos luchando, las cosas pueden cambiar aunque ahor
a nos parezca imposible debido al pesimismo. En mi ponencia, hablé de la historia de las revoluciones porque impulsaron cambios que se habían considerado una quimera. Por ejemplo, la Revolución haitiana. En esa antigua colonia francesa los europeos pensaban que los esclavos no se iban a rebelar nunca con éxito, pero sí, y fue una de las revoluciones más notables de la historia y demostró que, lo que hoy parece imposible no solo es posible, sino que, como dijo Rosa Luxemburg, antes de cada revolu
ción, se considera una quimera, pero una vez ocurre, se considera inevitable. Creo que este es uno de nuestros retos actuales: cómo podemos enfrentar los desafíos que acechan y pensar que, mientras luchemos e imaginemos otros futuros, no hay nada definitivo, sino potencial para otro futuro, uno que nos depare otro horizonte. Sharing this week with you has been an incredible experience. We learned a lot and exchanged very different ideas which are also so interwoven. It was very enriching and I t
ake with me many ideas not only to think about the end but also, very necessary, to overcome it.

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