Count Dooku is hands-down the most underratedÂ
character in the Star Wars franchise. Of the Sith we see in the movies, heâsÂ
the âmiddle apprentice,â of sorts, stuck between the iconic Darth Maul and theÂ
legendary Darth Vader. He didnât quite have the striking aesthetics of either of his fellowÂ
apprentices, though his preference for capes shows that he certainly had style. But Dooku made upÂ
for this lack of a cool factor with character, especially in The Clone Wars and the ExpandedÂ
Universe.
His political ideals are central to his character, being what drove him away fromÂ
the Jedi and, eventually, the Republic. Dookuâs professed ideals are generally seen in a positiveÂ
light by most fans; after all, his criticisms of the Republic were strikingly accurate. But wereÂ
those ideals something he truly believed in, or were they just a façade? What did DookuÂ
really believe - and were his convictions right? This quote from Dooku has been making the roundsÂ
lately. Itâs from the Legends n
ovel Yoda: Dark Rendezvous, and itâs gained traction because itâsÂ
accurate to a degree. There are a few flaws with this assessment, which weâll talk about later, butÂ
in a general sense, itâs a very astute analysis of the problems with the Jedi Order. If you clickedÂ
on this video thinking the answer to our title question was yes, itâs probably because of thisÂ
quote and the ideological outlook it represents. At his heart, Dooku was an idealist, and alwaysÂ
had been. At the core of his ideals w
as a fierce dislike for the Republic, of which heÂ
was a harsh critic even during his time as a Jedi Master. Dooku saw the Republic asÂ
hopelessly corrupt and relentlessly exploitative, a tool the wealthy Core Worlds used as aÂ
bludgeon against the poorer worlds of the Rim. As he grew older, he began to believe thatÂ
the Republic was unfixable and that the galaxy needed a restart, a seismic civilizational shift.Â
Dooku was also highly critical of the Jedi Order. Though his criticisms of the Repu
blic wereÂ
initially divorced from his criticisms of the Jedi, he eventually saw the twoÂ
as part of the same problem. The Jedi, he believed, were too deeplyÂ
involved with the Republic. They were unable and unwilling, he thought,Â
to stop the evils that plagued the galaxy. These ideals became the basis of theÂ
Confederacy of Independent Systems. Dookuâs words inspired Separatists the galaxyÂ
over, giving them common ideals to rally around. As Head of State for the CIS, Dooku constantlyÂ
decried
the moral failings of the Republic and vowed to stand for the oppressed peoples of theÂ
galaxy. He claimed to be building a better galaxy, one without tyrannical central governments andÂ
the mass exploitation the Republic had tolerated. All of thatâs well and good, but ifÂ
youâre at all familiar with politics, you know full well that thereâs usuallyÂ
a difference between what politicians say and what they believe. Dooku is no exception. WhenÂ
considering his ideals, people tend to forget or lea
ve out the fact that he was a Sith Lord.Â
That makes a difference. The Sith had their own set of ideals, after all, and the fact thatÂ
Dooku was a secret Sith means itâs possible, or maybe even probable, that he had other beliefsÂ
he kept under wraps as well. But we donât have to speculate about that. The Revenge of the SithÂ
novelization features several scenes from Dookuâs perspective, which give us a detailed look atÂ
what the man actually believed. Hereâs a snippet: For the most part, Dookuâ
s criticisms of theÂ
Republic and the Jedi were genuine beliefs of his, but his professed solution was a lie.Â
What Dooku actually wanted the galaxy to look like was much, much differentÂ
from what the other Separatists wanted: Dooku knew full well that his master wasÂ
building a Galactic Empire, and he was completely on board. More than that, actually - heÂ
believed in the Empire far more than Sidious did, and wanted it to be far more extreme, farÂ
more repressive, and far more speciesist than
Sidious ever intended for it to be. His talk ofÂ
corruption in the Republic had been doublespeak; sure, he detested the inefficiencies of theÂ
Senate and the loathsome decadence of the Core, but he also hated nonhumans, and sawÂ
their very existence as corruption of another sort. He was a totalitarian, bentÂ
on bringing the entire galaxy under a rigid, brutal hierarchy - a hierarchy he would be atÂ
the top of. Despite all he criticized the Jedi Order for not doing enough to fight slavery,Â
he wa
nted to enslave pretty much everyone. Speaking of the Jedi Order, he had a visionÂ
for them as well. Dooku knew that Sidious planned to wipe out the Jedi Order, but alsoÂ
that there would likely be survivors. Dooku didnât want to have these survivors hunted downÂ
and destroyed - he wanted them converted. Out of the ashes of the Jedi Order, he sought to build aÂ
Sith Army, which, he believed, would be led by a fallen Anakin Skywalker, who would serve as hisÂ
underling in the New Order. He envisio
ned this army as the Fist of the Empire, a brutal forceÂ
that would destroy anything and everything that threatened the immutable order he envisioned forÂ
the galaxy. Like the Jedi Order, this Sith Army would have recruited Force-sensitives from aroundÂ
the galaxy, but with one small difference. Where the Jedi allowed the parents of Force-sensitivesÂ
to refuse to give up their children, the Sith Army would not have. All the Force-sensitivesÂ
in the galaxy were to be conscripted into the Empireâs
red right hand, and forced to actÂ
according to the will of the Sith Lords. As you can probably tell by now, there was aÂ
hell of a contrast between what Dooku preached and what he really believed. But there was aÂ
common constant - he believed the Republic was hopelessly corrupt. That, of course, was correct;Â
itâs a no-brainer, honestly, for anyone familiar with the events of the Prequels. A lot of whatÂ
he criticized the Republic and the Jedi for was also fairly accurate. The Republic was in
deedÂ
relentlessly exploitative and mired in corruption, while the Jedi were far too close to it, andÂ
their ability to do good was hampered by that. However, his solution was beyond awful. HisÂ
vision of a New Order wasnât just wrong, it wasnât just evil, it was monstrous. To state theÂ
obvious, enslaving every nonhuman in the galaxy and installing a fascist state would make theÂ
Republic's problems worse, not better. Even if that plan could somehow fix problems withÂ
the Republic, itâs still
morally unacceptable. Dooku didnât really believe that the Republic wasÂ
too oppressive; he believed it wasnât oppressive enough. And while many of his observations aboutÂ
flaws of the Republic and the Jedi were accurate, others were less so. He didnât just hate theÂ
Republic for its corruption, but also because it didnât brutalize nonhumans enough for hisÂ
liking. He didnât just hate the Jedi for failing to solve the galaxyâs problems, but also becauseÂ
he thought the Jedi werenât authoritarian
enough. We mentioned earlier that his analysis of theÂ
Jedi Order had a flaw. This was that Dookuâs implication that the Jedi werenât fightingÂ
slavery or any of the Republicâs faults at all wasnât true - and Dooku knew that, too. When heÂ
claimed that the Jedi werenât fighting against the problems with the Republic, what he really meantÂ
was they werenât fighting those problems properly. He believed the Jedi Order shouldÂ
have forced its will on the galaxy, that it should have broken from theÂ
Republic and ruled the galaxy directly. This wasnât just something he had come toÂ
believe as a Sith Lord - it was his reason for leaving the Jedi Order, a belief heÂ
held before he fell to the Dark Side. You might be scratching your head right now andÂ
wondering why there was such a contrast between what Dooku believed and what he advocatedÂ
for. The answer was simple - he was acting as controlled opposition. The Separatists wereÂ
a boogeyman, composed of nearly every group that the Sith saw a
s a threat. Dookuâs goal inÂ
forming the CIS was to destroy those factions, to destroy Separatist causes beforeÂ
they could threaten the Empire. By and large, the ideals Dooku championedÂ
were actually ideals that he despised. He may once have believed in them, but those daysÂ
were long over by the time of the Clone Wars. As weâve discussed in prior videos,Â
the cause of the Separatists was just. The Republic was corrupt, the Jedi were too caughtÂ
up in it, and the Outer Rim was badly exploited.
But the Separatistsâ cause was notÂ
Dookuâs cause. His cause was, in fact, antithetical to the Separatist cause. His wasÂ
the cause of slavery, of exploitation, and of ruthless totalitarianism. His was the cause of theÂ
Sith - and it was most definitely not righteous. So, thatâs our look at whetherÂ
or not Count Dooku was right. But what do you think? Would you likeÂ
us to take a look at the views of other major Star Wars characters? Feel free toÂ
post your thoughts in the comments below.
Comments
I like to imagine Dooku as sort of a Darth Revan like character when it came to him being a sith, not fully consumed by it (hence not always having sith eyes) but rather using it like a tool
Count Dooku: "Slavery is an evil that cannot be tolerated." Also Count Dooku: "It's not slavery if they're non-humans."
âYou speak of a feeble assembly of weak-minded simpletons(Jedi council). For too long have they sat in their ivory tower, content to dispense arrogant platitudes while the galaxy evolves before their very eyes. Why would I be concerned with cowards too frightened to understand what it truly means to know the Force?â -Dooku Pretty impressive quote for an obscure DS game(Clone Wars: Jedi Alliance to be exact).
Geonosis arena Anakin: Padme, are you all right? Padme: Yes I have the high ground Obi-Wan: What a useful trick
I think this quote from Gandalf sums up the Dark Side quite best: Understand, Frodo. I would use this ring from a desire to do good... But through me, it would wield a power too great and terrible to imagine. Dooku may have had the noblest of intentions, but the Dark Side twisted them into something utterly repugnant.
Dooku's last thoughts in the revenge of the sith right before his death: "Treachery is the way of the Sith"
What if Count Dooku's whole ordeal was to avenge Qui Gon's death by playing double agent? Infiltrate by Darth Sidious's side and kill him when he's most vulnerable ?
My man Dooku just wasnât the same anymore since Qui Gon was gone. Poor guy lost his son
Geetsly: Dooku was a charismatic but monstrous man. Dooku: Brave of you boy, I thought you learned your lesson.
Thus his name, Tyranus...the one who would bring the galaxy to Tyranny. It's ironic that he's so often overlooked compared to Maul and Vader, who were effectively bookends, when he did the majority of the groundwork and execution for the final stages of the Sith Grand Plan. For a decade, he used his reputation, wealth, influence and personal power and charisma to operate without suspicion in the open, he erased Kamino from the archives, lured his friend Syfo Dyas to purchase the Clone Army, then silence him, he came up with the plan to use Bounty Hunters to destroy the Bando Gora to find the prime clone templet, he recruited Jango Fett, funded the GAR and organized the CIS. Then in his last three years of his thirteen year time as a Sith Lord, he recruited and trained Grievous and Ventress-two of the most prolific Jedi Killers of their day(their combined total Jedi kills amount over 260 dead Jedi) he turned Sora Bulq and several Jedi Masters, Knights and Padawans to the Dark Side, created a schism in the Jedi Order, spared and pushed Anakin further to the Darkside while restraining himself from killing the boy on multiple occasions, found and retrieved the holocron of Darth Andeddu for Sidious(which allowed Sidious to master Essence Transfer and survive his death at Endor) and work closely with Sidious to perpetuate the Clone Wars so that more and more emergency powers could be vested in Sidious public guise as Palpatine. Sidious literally could not have come to power fully without Tyranus, and part of disposing of him through Anakin was to remove someone who commanded the respect and loyalty of half the galaxy and could become a rival once the Empire had been established.
I think Dooku is pretty based, not gonna lie. The Republic was corrupt, and separatist worlds had every right to secede.
"Slavery, exploitation, ruthless totaliarianism"... Here is the thing, none of that is surprising, he was a massive hipocrite. The problem is that most people only remember him as Count Dooku, but forget his was also known as Darth Tyranus.
I don't like the fact that Dooku was a racist, it just doesn't fit to his character as we saw him in the movies and the clone wars like he had 3 apprentices that wasn't human such as Asajj Ventress the Dathomirian witch, Savage Opress the Dathomirian Zabrak and Quinlan Vos the Kiffu jedi master. He doesn't seem to hate nor treat them badly (except from their training) but the point is that it doesn't fit his character especially from someone who is trying to save galaxy and that is what I don't like about legends Dooku and hopefully this won't happen with this canon Dooku.
So, in other words, Dooku wanted to create the star wars equivalent to the Imperium of Man. Which means... Dooku: God emperor of mankind The sith army: Space Marines and tech-priests Stormtroopers: Imperial Guard
The Philosophy of Star Wars never ceases to spark inspiration for me. Dooku is THE separatist. His ideals are right to an extent but also somewhat misguided. The Jedi are meant to be, in some people's eyes, apathetic. One of the core tenants of the Jedi is intended to be restraint. Those who can change the galaxy shouldn't do so, as absolute power corrupts absolutely. The alliance between the Jedi Order and the Republic, especially the Jedi's influence of galactic politics, go against these ideals. As Mace Windu once said, "We are keepers of the peace, not soldiers." The final nail in the coffin for the Jedi was their involvement with the clone army in the GAR, proving that the Jedi could not follow their dogmatic views while being aligned to the Republic. Dooku and the Sith, in general, have an ideology base similar to Nietzsche, in the sense that those with power have a duty and responsibility to use it. This isn't inherently evil. We've seen multiple Jedi in the expanded universe act this way, such as Revan and Kyle Katarn. In the era's this was more accepted was both before and after the reign of Sidious, or more accurately, Yoda.
Dooku was a hero once but ideals get corrupted the dark side isnât a tool that can simply be used it will use you and the man who once wanted to better the galaxy is gone and now only Tyrannus remains that became the very thing he swore to destroy a corrupt tyrant
"It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided with our skills in the Force.... but with our skills in a lightsaber. "
Star Wars Prequels: Filled with complex characters people are still talking about almost 2 decades later Star Wars Sequels: Everyone is just trying their best to forget âReY SkYwAlKeRâ
It would be absolutely badass if Count Dooku took a civilian shuttle, went to Couruscant, surrendered to see the Jedi Council and straight up tell them "I surrender but kill the chancellor, he's a sith lord and plays us both."
You find out more about Dookuâs beliefs and politics in the book Plagueis. Itâs also annoying that the book ends with Plapatine meeting Dooku in a underworld bar.